The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Cowboys Need A Rebuild, Has Ohio State Gotten Soft? Athletes Doing The “Trump Dance” Sharp or Square - Betting NFL Week 12

Episode Date: November 23, 2024

  Colin’s top takes of the week! He begins with the Texans beating down the Cowboys 34-10 on Monday Night Football! He breaks down why the Texans will be fine despite some struggles and debates wha...t the Cowboys should do in the draft in order to secure an impact player for the future seeing as they “aren’t close” (4:00). He explains why fans shouldn’t freak out about pro athletes like USMNT star Christian Pulisic and 49ers DE Nick Bosa doing the “Trump Dance” despite (12:00), and why ESPN adding the star-studded crew of “The NBA On TNT” to their programming slate was a savvy business move (15:45).  Then, Colin is joined by former Alabama QB and ESPN college football analyst Greg McIlory to break down the playoff rankings and preview the playoff!    They start by discussing how much of a “cold weather” advantage Big Ten teams will have when hosting SEC teams from a warmer climate (27:45). They debate what Ohio State’s true identity is besides “talented” (34:00) and if their emphasis on elite wide receiver talent has made them soft in the trenches and run game (38:00) Finally, Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network and host of “The Favorites” podcast, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for week 12 of the NFL slate! 47:30 - Commanders vs Cowboys 49:45 - Bears vs Vikings 52:30 - Cardinals vs Seahawks 54:45 - Packers vs 49ers 56:30 - Rams vs Eagles 58:45 - Chargers vs Ravens 01:05:45 - Patriots vs Dolphins 01:08:00 - Colts vs Lions 01:10:30 - Broncos vs Raiders 01:13:00 - Chiefs vs Panthers 01:15:00 - Titans vs Texans Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:37 Game time. We saw the Texans thump, the Dallas Cowboys, and I got my draft king's bet right. Houston minus four and a half to cover in the first half. First play of the game was actually a touchdown. Ineligible man downfield screwed that up, but they scored Joe Mixon on a big run after that to take a lead, never look back. I mean, the first thing is C.J. Stroud has struggled for about five weeks, and you can tell why. He's got a bad offensive line. In golf, they call it the yips. He lets go the ball too quickly. I don't worry that he's got, you know, more interceptions
Starting point is 00:04:14 now than he did all of last year, because when he had Stefan Diggs and Nico Collins healthy, he was four and one. He's still undefeated in division. He's four and four after the win over Dallas tonight in the rest of their games. I think the Houston Texans are fine. They're the Green Packers of the AFC. They're a year away. They need another draft. They're a little bit thin. Packers are a little young. Texans are a little thin.
Starting point is 00:04:38 They both have good young coaches, really good young quarterbacks. They're just not ready to beat the Detroit's or like the Buffaloes in Kansas cities. But it's a good team. And I don't take anything away from C.J. Stroud. His comp was Jared Goff. Well, if you go back to Jared Goff's third year in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:04:56 that was McVeigh, his passerating dip. to like mid-80s, high-80s. And so, you know, CJ doesn't trust his protection. PFF has their O-line at like 26th, 27th. His top receiver, Stefan Diggs is out. Nico Collins came back tonight. He's been hurt. Nico Collins is amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:13 He went to Michigan. He was a southern kid from, I think, Alabama, went to Michigan. Productive, but not a superstar in college, like mid-30s catches. And they got him in the third round, and boy, he is a hard, guard. He is a hard guy to defend it. You know, you can tell. C.J. Stroud, and his comp is goff, so he's not a playmaker. He's just sit in the pocket and throw darts. When Gough's offensive line is great, Jared's great. His rookie year, C.J. Stroud had a very good offensive line. He was outstanding. Gough and Stroud, those were the comps by scouts, and it was accurate.
Starting point is 00:05:49 C.J. moves a little better. But when they don't have great protection, they rush things, they throw more interceptions. They're just not as on-prudely. They're just not as on point. And I think that's C.J. Stroud just needs better protection. He'll be fine. I think the Jared Gough comparison's always been true. And they have great protection. They're really special. You know, it's interesting, though, watching the Cowboys. So the Cowboys, right now, if you go to the current NFL draft order, there's five teams with two wins, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Las Vegas, giants. And then there's four teams with three wins, the Jets, New England, Carolina, and Dallas. is now at three and nine. And so the advantage for Dallas is, listen, they have a chance to end up
Starting point is 00:06:35 with just three wins now with Cooper Rush, but they played Tommy DeVito and the Giants on Thanksgiving. And if they win that game, and I think they will, that'll be their fourth win. It'll take Dallas out of any shot for a first, second, or probably third pick in the draft. It's not a particularly strong draft, and they wouldn't take Shadoor Sanders anyway. But what I was hoping is if Dallas can get into the top five, and they still have a shot, even if they beat the Giants, that would be four wins. They also play Carolina. But if you're Dallas at this point, this is why the New York Giants are not going to go to Drew Locke. They're going to Tommy DeVito. They'd rather not win games. And the Giants have a real shot, because I think Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Cleveland
Starting point is 00:07:17 are too talented. They'll win another game. If the Giants get beat by Dallas, there's a real possibility. They don't win another game, and they have the number one pick. And they will absolutely draft Shadur Sanders. So Dallas, I would draft Shadur Sanders, but I wouldn't sign Dac to a long-term contract, but Dallas isn't going to draft him. There's some good players in this draft. The number two pick I think will be Kelvin Banks. He's an offensive tackle from Texas. Travis Hunter, a very explosive player from Colorado, will go second or third. Mason Graham, the defensive tackle Michigan. Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan. Will Campbell, the offensive tackle from LSU. T. Mack, the wide receiver for Arizona.
Starting point is 00:07:57 a really big target. Southern California kid. He's a really good player. Cam Ward is going to go somewhere in the top 10, although I, you know, a little backyard football for me, I wouldn't draft him that high. But it's not a great draft.
Starting point is 00:08:14 There's a lot of Michael Williams, the defense of the edge for Georgia. There's a lot of Georgia and Michigan guys in the top 12, top 15, not a great draft. And listen, if I was Dallas and I got a top five pick, I would move down because I don't think they're close to Detroit, Philadelphia,
Starting point is 00:08:32 Buffalo, Kansas City. I don't think their roster's close. I don't think one player's going to solve it. But I don't think this is a good enough draft where people are going to want to move up unless you have a top five pick and maybe a top, yeah, a top five pick and somebody wants Cam Ward,
Starting point is 00:08:48 who I think is an okay prospect. I think Schindor Sanders is a strong prospect, kind of in the Jane Daniels class, you know, electric movement, moving, nice arm, very accurate. You know, he's a winner. He was a winner. First year in college, he's a winner at Colorado.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I mean, they're a really good football team now that could win the Big 12. So, you know, Dallas, there is, this is what happens for the giants who reached on Daniel Jones, the cowboys who have overpaid DAC, had some injuries. I would strongly consider the one thing about this draft, it's weak at quarterback. It's strong at wide receiver and it's strong in the first round on edge rusher. I would consider moving Micah Parsons. You know, somebody's going to give you a first round pick and have to pay them. But, you know, there's a lot of teams in this league that are close,
Starting point is 00:09:40 but they could use an elite edge rusher. And Michael Unhealthy is that. And you could go draft another edge rusher and restart the clock on that position. And there's several. Abdul Carter, the edge rusher from Penn State's a top 10 pick. Again, Williams from Georgia, top 10, 12 pick. But I think Dallas, you know, they have to have like a come-to-Jesus moment. They're just not very good.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I mean, you watch tonight, you know, CD Lam's an explosive player, but they know their past protection is just okay. They have the weakest running back room in the league. They have nothing after CD-LAM of note. They need a lot of help. Their corners are okay, not special, in my opinion. So I think that's where Dallas is. It's not a year in the NFL draft to want a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:10:32 There's one. And I think, you know, listen, Vegas and the New York Giants both need one. I think Sam Darnold will probably have a market, a decent market, because I think Minnesota is going to, I think they've got a chance to sneak into the playoffs. They're just good enough. But Dallas has a long way to go. Houston's going to be fine. They're going to be fine. They're going to get better next year.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I like their coach, their quarterback, their front office. They got some players. Their whole line's just kind of a mess. A lot of penalties. Don't pass protect particularly well you saw it tonight. They don't pick up blitzes. They just, it's a bad unit. But Dallas has to really think long and hard.
Starting point is 00:11:12 The downside to a mediocre draft like this year is the Cowboys would love to trade down. This is why I believe they have to have a top five pick because the people, the only players that people will trade up for is a Shadour Sanders or maybe a Cam Ward. There's like one or two great tackles. There's four or five. I think Mason Graham, the defensive tackle for Michigan, is really, really special. He's been unblockable by a single offensive linemen in college football. You kind of have to double team him. So, you know, just it's interesting to see all these teams at the top of the draft, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Vegas. You know, you're kind of used to them.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Jets, Carolina. Then all of a sudden you go, oh, yeah, Dallas. Wow, Dallas. But you watch tonight. There's nothing there. So you're seeing something all through college and pro sports, and it was very noticeable this weekend. You know, the Trump dance by young NFL players,
Starting point is 00:12:15 African-American players, white players, veteran players, Brock Bowers, the young tight end for Las Vegas. And but I was really, you know, athletes have a sense of humor. You know, it's a sport, it's a business, but it's a sport. And, you know, after you score, you celebrate, I don't care what players do. I really don't. But I did think it was interesting that in soccer, United States men's national team star,
Starting point is 00:12:42 Christian Pulisic did the Trump dance. And the reason I think it's surprising is that soccer tends to have a very young, left-leaning audience. And when he did it, I thought, oh, boy, there's going to be a meltdown. And regardless of where I am, I've always viewed myself really as a moderate independent, but you can drive yourself crazy all you want. But the reason the athletes are doing this is because it's really a quirky, weird, odd dance. And every time Trump did it, it just looks so outdated. And I think Trump sort of leans into it now and knows people get a kick out of it.
Starting point is 00:13:20 and it's okay to take a deep breath. And regardless of what you think of a politician, it is a three-second, four-second dance. They're pro-athletes. Take a deep breath. Or you can go into therapy for the next four years because your side lost and be miserable. You know, sometimes I think in politics,
Starting point is 00:13:42 the greatest advantage conservatives have is people watching the other side melt down and look crazy and out of their mind, it's just a dance. It's no big deal. It's three seconds. Athletes have a sense of humor. We're all going to be okay on that. But it was noticeable to me that when Pulisic did it, I thought, oh, that's surprising. You know, soccer players in the soccer community have always felt a little European, kind of left-leaning, young, stylish. That's what it's always felt like to me, you know, the hipsters. I love, I love soccer. You know, I've told the story before. My mom was British. And when I was a kid, really, really young, I was probably six years old,
Starting point is 00:14:30 seven years old. My mom took me to England. And England was the Netherlands with Johann Croyfe, a great soccer star. And England were the dominant kind of teams in the world. And England had won a World Cup back then. And my mom bought me a little soccer set. And I can remember. I remember playing with it in the window ledge in England, Lancashire, in the middle of England, where my mom was from. And so I remember those. I have these strong, it's one of the first memories of my life is playing with this soccer game. And Netherlands wore orange. That's their country's color.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And it was on television. It must have been around, you know, the World Cup. because that's all my mom and her twin brother, my late mother, and her twin brother, Peter, that's all they, you know, that was like a big topic of conversation and they went and got me that soccer game. So I've always been,
Starting point is 00:15:23 and then I moved to the Pacific Northwest. You know, I was from there, the Seattle Sounders, the Portland Timbers, and then I went there in my career. So I've always liked soccer, especially the United States men's national team. But I didn't look at the reactions of their fans when Pulisic did that.
Starting point is 00:15:41 But I thought there's going to be some meltdowns over that. And again, take a deep breath. It's a four-second dance. People are just having fun. So there's been some concern, consternation on where is the Shaq, Barclay, Ernie, Kenny Johnson show going to go now that Warner Brothers and TNT has lost the NBA. And this was going to be their last year with them. So over the course of, I think it was late last week, it was announced in the negotiation
Starting point is 00:16:15 between the NBA and TNT. Adam Silver didn't want TNT involved in it. Long story, mostly boring. The top executive for Warner Brothers just pissed off Adam Silver and he no longer wanted him associated with the league. And so basically they struck a deal and ESPN is going to get the the show, the Barclay Shack show. I actually think it is significant because in the regular season, that show is often more entertaining than the games in a long NBA regular season. And I'm a huge
Starting point is 00:16:52 fan of Mike Breen. I never understood breaking up Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson, and Mike Breen. I thought at the time it was easily their strongest broadcast unit. I didn't get it, probably political. Van Gundy had been at times critical of the NBA. So it felt like it was a lot of the NBA. So it felt like, like Adam Silver stepped in and blew that up. And it's happened before. I remember when David Stern was commissioner. I had heard complaints that he wasn't happy with the, I forget the broadcaster, one of the broadcasters on ABC ESPN. And David Stern had pressured ESPN to make changes. So, but I do think ESPN's NBA coverage for the last, I mean, what do they have the rights? 20, 22 years. I love brain, but it's just been a revolving door of personalities. And they've never really stepped
Starting point is 00:17:39 up and spent big money and got landed a superstar. And I think this will really cement. I mean, let's be honest, for years and years, Monday night football was kind of swimming in mediocrity. It's nothing against the broadcasters, but it never felt as good as like Al Michaels or, you know, the bigger broadcast teams, Jim Nance. And so Buck and Aikman have solidified Monday night football. They make it feel big again. And for years, I just, I felt like it just, it didn't feel as big as the Fox game of the week or the Sunday night football game of the week or the CBS Jim Nance Romo game of the week. ESPN felt like number four. And Buck and Aikman have elevated it. And I think ESPN's pre and postgame show is been really weak. And I mean, the halftime shows like two minutes and commercials. I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:27 they don't even care. They're just selling spots. So I think this will make it more formidable like Buck and Ainkman do. It'll make it feel big. And I think if you're Adam Silver, NBC is going to have NBA, ESPN's going to have NBA, and Amazon's going to have NBA. But the incumbent is ESPN. And I think it's a strong play. I think, you know, I love the business I'm in. I think Jimmy Bataro, who runs ESPN, has taken big swings. I think Nick Saban, Pat McAfee, Buckin-Akman, Shaq Barkley, Jason Kelsey, Bill Belichick, those are big swings.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And I think is our business, as the market's gotten wider and wider and wider, it's harder to develop shows. It's easier to go get widely recognized personalities to put a Nick Saban on a game day. And I think he's been the perfect tonic on that show between all their other cast. He's just clicked with them. And the reason ESPN has done some big game hunting, I mean, they've really taken some big swings is because for years and years, they were swimming in red with their streaming growth. you know, Disney Plus, and it was losing, you know, four, five billion a year. Well, they just
Starting point is 00:19:45 turned a profit. This year they made a billion. And so this point forward, Disney's going to be making four, eight, twelve, twenty billion dollars a year in their streaming. So, you know, underneath Disney is ESPN. And even though cable television is probably got six years left, seven years left from what I read. Disney's now humming. So they're taking big swings and they're going buying big name people as the market has become very, very wide. And it's when people, there's so many platforms, there's so many options.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I mean, people are sitting on TikTok all day. To get attention, you got to go take big swings. And, you know, I think that's what Shaq and Barclay and Kenny and Ernie are. I think that's arguably as good as any pre-post game halftime show. I think Fox's football show and that show are the two that really stand out to me. The NFL season's rolling along. The contenders are separating from the pack. The one thing that hasn't changed this season is Draft King's Sportsbook and official sports book,
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Starting point is 00:27:12 He's the host of Always College football, Greg McElroy, who we bring on two or three times a year. The latest college football rankings have come out. BYU is gone. I don't have a problem with it. I think, and I'm assuming most of you who listen to my show, know what the college football rankings were. Oregon, one, Ohio State, two, Texas, three, Penn State, four. Not sure I buy Penn State. Indiana, five, Notre Dame Six.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Bama, who I think is better than advertised as seven. Miami 8, don't know if I buy them. Ole Miss 9, Georgia, 10, Tennessee, who I had winning the Natty 11 and Boise State 12. So here's, let me just throw this out there. For years and years, I heard Greg, Big Ten fans always say, why don't we have to go south to play our bowl games? So what's interesting is Georgia would have to go to Penn State, it's pick them, Old Miss would have to go to Indiana, and Alabama would have to go to Notre Dame. I do think that's an advantage for cold weather teams over warm weather teams, do you?
Starting point is 00:28:10 Absolutely. That's a huge deal. Especially looking at the, I mean, what did Wisconsin just do this past week? I mean, and I know that right now it's not frigid temperatures in Madison, but they just got rid of their air raid style offensive coordinator because it's hard to throw and to be a pass happy offense in November in the Big Ten. Well, raise it by at least, I don't know, three or four times the intensity in the playoff setting in December. I mean, look, I've lived in Cincinnati and New Jersey in my time in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:28:44 The day I left Cincinnati, it was minus 32 degrees wind chill. And I thought to myself, I'm never coming back. If I have to retire, I will. I cannot play in this. We don't even have an indoor facility at the Bengals. I cannot do it anymore. Yeah. So, long story short, I think you go to Columbus.
Starting point is 00:29:01 you go to Penn State, depending on the day. It could be a three to five point advantage in favor of the home team. Yeah, no, I agree with that. So Greg McElroy, many of you know, is a friend. He and Joel Clatter people. I really like to talk college football with. They're so prepared, and they both played the quarterback position. Alabama's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:29:23 First of all, Jalen Milro, I don't know, and I do this for a living, I don't know what to make of him as a pro prospect. I really like him. as a college quarterback. I think he throws a beautiful deep ball. He's got really a just like a Russell Wilson deep ball touch. It's a beautiful ball, incredibly catchable. And I think Kalin DeBoer, I think we forget that Kalin DeBoer is a great coach and took over a great program.
Starting point is 00:29:48 But you're instituting your own culture. And I think Nick was more of a little bit more of a screamer, a volume coach, like loud. That's not Kalen. He's more of a teacher and a mentor. So there's an adjustment for the players in Alabama. It's a new way. So they've had a couple of really bad halves, really bad halves. And I'm like, okay, but I don't care if you're taking, if I'm taking over Nike,
Starting point is 00:30:15 it's a great company. I'm trying to change the culture and institute my worldview. So I think Alabama now is actually underrated. I think it's going to, I think by the end of this season, you're going to look at them and go, God, they're really good. They have an NFL first, second round quarterback. They have an excellent coach. But, but, um, so I'm defending Alabama.
Starting point is 00:30:35 My take is they get cherry picked a little more than most teams because they lose Nick and they're going to lose some guys in the portal and people cherry pick them. It's very hard to follow Nick. Um, Kaelin, Caleb, or is, Kaelin's learning as he goes. Alabama's not Washington. Okay. Al, the culture's different. The demands are different.
Starting point is 00:30:57 The intensity. The media. It's a relentless. job. Washington's not. They've got the Seahawks right down the road. If you lose, people forget very quickly. I think he's done a great job. I think Alabama now is underrated. You know the program better than anybody. Am I overstating what they can do? I think they can win a nanny. In fact, I would take them over, I would over Georgia. But I don't think that's the, I don't think that's the view of most experts. I think that they've been a bit of a punching bag this year.
Starting point is 00:31:30 understandably because we chase false gods in sports. You know, like, do you realize that, I don't know, I mean, you cover the NBA. Did Michael Jordan ever miss a game winning shot? Absolutely not, because I check YouTube highlights it. I don't see a lot of misses on there. Like, we chase false gods, and I feel like even though we're just one year removed, people will look at Nick Sabin's tenure, and they're going, to sit there and think, oh, well, he never played close against teams after a lot, after a big
Starting point is 00:32:05 win. Oh, well, he never had a two point win against South Carolina, who at the time was like a 500 football team. Oh, well, well, he never did this. And the realities is not true. Nick Saban after a win, or after a loss, excuse me, was like eight and 14 against the spread in the last five years. You know, it's like, it's like nobody earned the last 10 years or something. It was like some absurd. number. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's not accurate. People don't want to remember that because they just remember the dominance and the greatness for so long. And that's not, that's not disparaging Nick at all. I think he's the greatest coach in the history of college football. It's just people don't realize that he also had teams that had flaws and that had
Starting point is 00:32:51 growing experiences. And I think this team has had that. And the unfortunate thing about this team is his team is going to go, or at least it has up to this point, how they're quarterback goes. To be this quarterback dependent is a challenge. Your best offensive weapon outside of Jalen Milro is a true freshman, who is an undersized wide receiver that has freak show qualities, but he's not, you know, he's not Megatron. There's going to be some defensive backs that he has a tough matchup against, and there's going to be some that he torches, but he's young. Your running game's really good, and your offensive line is developing into a star. That is what I think is most, encouraging about where Alabama is going on their trajectory, and they're very young on defense with
Starting point is 00:33:34 a new system, and they've played a little better and better down the stretch, too. So I think you're buying low on Alabama if you buy them now. Can they win the Natty? I think it's all matchup-driven. Yeah, so do I. That's what I think's cool about where we're going, is it's very match-up-driven, but I do think they can do it if things bounce their way in, they play their A-game down the stretch. So I made the argument the other day. I don't, I thought the win over Penn State, Penn State, Penn State had opportunities to win that game. And I'm not not saying Penn State's not worthy of the playoff. But if Indiana beat Ohio State and Oregon beat Ohio State, in my opinion, the two best teams they've played. Because if Indiana beats Ohio State, they're for real. Now, there are 13-point
Starting point is 00:34:14 underdollies probably won't. But I made the argument is if Ohio State lost to Oregon and Indiana, man, I, that doesn't, I mean, that, you're certainly not getting a home game from me in the play out. Now, what do you make of Ohio State? I call them the whack-a-mole team. Every time I watch something else pops up that worries me. First, it was their defense, Oregon. Then it was their offense, Penn State, or it was their offense against Nebraska. And then it was their quarterback play, Will Howard against Penn State. And I'm like, something's off. There's just something. And by the way, I felt this for the last two to three years against Michigan, where Michigan had an absolute identity.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Nick Sabin's teams, identity. What is Ohio State in your eyes? Beyond talented. I think they're a team that wants to be rugged, but they still have a bunch, you know what I mean? Like they want to be rugged, but they still have a lot of sports cars. It's like, you know, they have a dirt road
Starting point is 00:35:25 that you have to run in the Big Ten to win a championship. and they can't decide if they want to take their Ford F-150 or their GMC Sierra or if they just want to say, forget it, well, who cares if we blow an axle? Like, let's drive the Ferrari and see what happens. I think that there is a bit of an identity. Do they want to be a running team? They want to utilize quarterback run. Do they want to be a dropback passing team?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Are they a team that wants to work off play action? I think they can do all those things. I think they do everything well, but they don't do anything elite. And that to me is a little bit jaw-dropping given their personnel. Like, I think they have a good defensive line. I don't think they have an elite defensive line. Like, I think they have good run-stopping defense events, but I don't think they have defense events that scare me to death,
Starting point is 00:36:17 and I can put my tackles on one-on-one against them in an obvious passing situation. I think they have really athletic linebackers. And I think those guys are actually an upgrade from what they've had in the past. but I also think they can sometimes over-pursue. And Oregon hit them with some misdirection to my violation stuff. They have really good corners. But I also don't know if those corners have seen elite, elite-level-wide receivers outside of that game against Oregon.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And guess what? Every team they play in the playoff will likely have elite-level-wide receivers. So it's a roundabout way of saying, I think Ohio State has a crazy high ceiling, and if they ever put it all together, it'd be a special thing for all of us to watch. But it's week 11. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 What are we waiting for? And I hope badly it happens this week and not because of Indiana or anything. I just want to see it. You don't accumulate that many pros on one roster and not just want something more. It feels a little bit like the 2015 team. You know what I mean? Like when they were in 2015, they had the best roster, but they didn't have the best team. And I don't know why that was.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I made this argument, I think, to Urban Mind. a year ago, I said their receiving recruiting has been so good, Brian Hartline. I mean, it's just all five-star guys, that even at practice, it's art, it's beautiful. And it's hard not to be seduced as a head coach when you're looking at these incredible first round wide receivers. And you have good backs, not pedestrian, they're good backs. You have world-class receivers. And I think at practice. I think in game, in film rooms, it's literally like putting ice cream in front of an eight-year-old. It's like, I'm going to eat it, even if I know it's not good for me. And I think what's happened, they're receiving recruiting is so good that it's seductive. And they sometimes, whenever they have a bad drive, we're throwing the ball, we're going to the perimeter. It's like, this happens. Now, Sabin, his recruiting on the perimeter was great as well.
Starting point is 00:38:26 but the culture of Alabama was really about physicality. And when I thought Michigan separated from Ohio State, it wasn't better players until the very last team. It was a better identity, an understanding of what they were. Hell, they beat Penn State. They didn't throw a pass in the second half on the road. So I think this may not make sense, but you know a little, you know some of this in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:38:49 If your best athletes are on the perimeter, it's seductive. You're going to be a more finesse football team. Cincinnati, between losing Joe Mixon, Higgins, and Chase, of course you're going to throw the ball. It's just, it's too appealing not to. And I feel like with Ohio State, I don't know if they need an eight-minute drive to kill the clock. Is it in them? Running the ball and eating up clock, is it in them? I don't know if it is.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah, I think that's perfectly fair. And they're also, sometimes when I watch Ohio State, and I felt like this a little bit, like when I watched the Lincoln Riley led Oklahoma teams, and this is not comparing Ryan Day to Lincoln Riley. This is not, I just feel like they look at a six-yard gain like it's a failure. You know what I mean? Like sometimes when I watch them,
Starting point is 00:39:41 it's like, oh, handoff to Judkins up the middle, gain of five at second and five. It's like guys are walking back to the, you know, their heads are hung. It's like, that was a great play. Yeah. I mean, I just think there is such a pressure to not just perform at a high level,
Starting point is 00:39:56 but to have a highly intoxicating offense that goes up and down the field. But also, when you have an offense that can score 50, you're hanging your defense out to dry. So then if you want to lean into your offense, now everyone's going to call you soft because that's what people have been saying for the last two years.
Starting point is 00:40:15 That's why you lost to Michigan because you're, quote, soft. That's not true. You're soft. It's just Michigan was the better team on that day. And Michigan last year had better personnel. They were stacked. It wasn't close.
Starting point is 00:40:26 They were significantly more talented. Look at the draft. Look at this year's draft. Yeah, there's still more Michigan guys. Exactly. So I just think that, I think that, I think Ohio State needs to just stay the course, man. They're really talented. Don't try to be Michigan that has a good quarter.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Don't try to be Michigan. Don't try to be Penn State. Just don't try to be 2015 Ohio State. Just be you. and the you that you are right now is plenty good enough to go win a national championship but I think it's going to require improved offensive line play
Starting point is 00:41:04 which we've seen it's been better the last few weeks I think it's going to require slightly more aggressive defensive philosophy with pressures and being able to ramp things up a little bit and I think it's going to require them being a little bit more
Starting point is 00:41:22 willing to roll the dice on the perimeter it are some of their coverages. I think don't think you can play quarters all the time and beat high-level teams. I don't think you can probably press man all the time and beat high-level teams. I just think it's going to be interesting to watch them. I think there's plenty of talent in there. I think you're right. I think it comes down to identity and how they want to play into it. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it
Starting point is 00:42:13 one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, hey Jonas. and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:33 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
Starting point is 00:42:52 help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player. to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Agency.
Starting point is 00:44:18 The ability to know that we're the experts in our own body. On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lulmex, create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. I wholeheartedly think, you know, you hit 30. You shouldn't have to share a room with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health.
Starting point is 00:44:41 These are real honest conversations. We don't always get to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them? Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing. I'm standing. I'm standing and handing my children food.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Because healing, empowerment, and resilience aren't just ideas. They're practices. And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on Crimless, we're joined by our first ever guest. Sorry, our first ever human guest. I don't think I could be in the same room with Shamrock the parrot. I'd be too nervous.
Starting point is 00:45:32 That's right. The very funny Will Ferrell joins Rory Scoble and me, Josh Dean, for an episode dedicated to the many crimes committed by people also named Will Ferrell. They called to his fellow officer for the nippers. What are the nippers? Very good question. No, I was thinking, would that be a good name for like a salad dressing? Simple assault.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And it's a play on word, salt? Maybe not. I say we invest and we see. There's only one way to know. This did not amuse the cops. By the way, normally the cops are amused, but this did not abuse the cops. Will even comes clean about some of his own crimes. I didn't get caught. You know why?
Starting point is 00:46:12 If you don't want to be suspected of anything, you whistle as you walk. Listen to crime lists on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, Sharper Square, co-host of the favorites, Chad Millman, All Odds. provided by Draft King. So I had a rant today on my very popular syndicated radio show, Milman. Yeah, no, I'm familiar. I've heard it's big. People are talking. So my take is what you don't want to become is the NBA, a very strong top, a soft middle, and 10 teams to 11 teams at the bottom that are unwatchable and non-competitive, mostly the Eastern Conference now. And I said as the NFL has become more quarterback centric based on a CTE lawsuit and changes of rules pivoting to the offense,
Starting point is 00:47:07 that we are getting to be a little NBA-ish in the NFL, a very strong top of five or six teams, a pretty soft middle of like the Seahawks Rams, and nine teams with two or three wins, several appear to be soft tanking. And so I have never been prone to big favorites. But Detroit last week at minus 14 felt like one of the smarter bets. So the commanders minus 10 and a half. So I locked it in at 10 this week on the herd. But I think one team's soft tanking and one team is fighting for a playoff spot. One team is now on a backup and not a great backup.
Starting point is 00:47:44 The other team has one of the better rookie quarterbacks in a long time. That team's at home playing for something. I know it's not sharp, sharper square, but I like the commanders here. Well, yeah, it's not sharp. the way you said it, it's like you're waiting for me to tell you, yeah, you know what? Colin, the wise guys are with you. This is the week where they've decided they love massive divisional favorites. I'm here to tell you they don't.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Right. The wise guys like the Cowboys. And part of this is, yes, the number is so big. But there's also some regression from Jaden Daniels, right? he was not very good against the Eagles last week on Thursday night. In fact, like, since that opening four-game stretch where he was completing 80% of his passes, he has yet to complete more than 70% of his passes in a game. And so you have to ask yourself, as he started to come back down to earth,
Starting point is 00:48:50 has teams started to figure him out? That's really the key to this game. And look, you can look at what the Cowboys did last week and say, say, okay, were they competitive in the first half? Yes, did Cooper Rush show some flashes of being able to be a competitive, too competent quarterback in the NFL? Certainly more than a lot of other backups in the league. And frankly, a lot of the starters that we see in the league.
Starting point is 00:49:17 But the wise guys are going to be on the Cowboys here because this number in a division game is just too big for a rookie quarterback who's steadily declined as. as the season is going on. And by the way, the rookie of the year, odds are a great way to look at that, right? How much is Bo Nicks crept up behind Jaden Daniels in the rookie of the year conversation? So the market is starting to recognize some of that. So I like the Bears plus three and a half hosting the Vikings lost in the blocked kick was that they thoroughly dominated Green Bay, a well-coached team,
Starting point is 00:49:52 that they schemed up layups, easy completions. Chicago looked good. They just didn't finish well. Minnesota, you always talk about the luck ratings. You know, I love Sam Darnold, but boy, they leave a lot of points on the floor. God. I mean, that Jacksonville game was maybe that could have been 40 to 10. I like Chicago.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I think they have limitations, but I watched them against Green Bay, and I like their personnel, Caleb played with confidence, the OC change mattered, sharper square. So it's sharp-ish. Don't forget, this line opened at five. So the wise guys bet it at five, they bet it at four and a half,
Starting point is 00:50:39 they bet it at four. They're still betting it a little bit at three and a half. If it gets any further than this, if I'm saying to you, you want to publicly announce you are locking in the bears at three and a half. You don't want to say you're on the bears at three.
Starting point is 00:50:54 You're not wrong about Sam Donald. and how lucky he's been in that game against Tennessee last week. They covered the spread, but not because of anything Sam Darnold did. He had 246 yards passing. 40% of his yards in the air came on three passes, right? So he is not having a very good sort of second half of the season. He's been very lucky. The problem for me, and this is where I'm like, I challenge the wise guy
Starting point is 00:51:25 perception on this is they like the bears largely because they think that Caleb did what you just said. He looked better. He was getting rid of the ball in less than two and a half seconds. It's the first time he's been doing that, right? Can they really block against a Minnesota Vikings defense that is so much more complex than the Packers? Brian Flores destroys rookie quarterbacks. And Caleb Williams this season, when he is facing a team that has a sack percentage, which is basically the number of defensive plays that end in a sack, when he's facing a team that is a sack percentage of more than 2.2 percent, he's 1 in 6. So you're looking at a guy who is facing a team that is a sack percentage of 5.5 percent. And a lot of times it's not even
Starting point is 00:52:15 because they're bringing pressure. They're dropping a lot of guys into covers. They just confuse the heck. out of offensive lines and young quarterback. So to me, that's really the matchup you have to be careful of. It's why I'm staying away from this game. I just don't think there's any value in this number. Too much bad quarterback play, too much good defensive play. Cardinals plus one now at the Seahawks. I've said this for the last year.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I'm not sure what Seattle is. I think they're well coached. I'm not sure of it. Sometimes they're smartly quarterback. Sometimes they're not. I think they'll move D.K. Metcalfe. some point in the near future. He always seems unhappy. I know exactly what Arizona is. Greg CoSell said it on my show this week. They don't outside of Buda Baker have great defensive personnel.
Starting point is 00:53:03 They are really smartly schemed. And I think this is an offense that is young in spots that is growing in confidence. I like teams that have an identity as the season goes on. It takes teams time. Even the Patriots at Julian Edelman has said it took all of our teams time to find the identity by week 12, some teams still don't have it. Seattle doesn't. Arizona does. Sharper square. So it's sharp, but it's been bouncing around. And I agree with you about the identity. The Cardinals know exactly who they are, right? They are a, even on defense, they are still a physical football team. James Connor is a really violent runner. And they know if they are able to get him the ball and be effective in the running game, that makes Kyler that much more effective in the
Starting point is 00:53:54 passing game. And they're just going to be the better team because of those two players, especially against the team like the Seahawks, which just last week before the game against the Niners, they released their leading tackler. Like that tells you how much they don't know who they are is like they're making pretty big personnel moves coming out of a buy in advance of a huge division game. And I would not take anything from the Seahawks win against the Niners. It's another weird sort of circumstance for the Niners with Nick Bosa going out. I think that impacted the game tremendously. So wise guys are with you.
Starting point is 00:54:27 The Cardinals are inside. You know, pun intended, they're putting the cards on the table here, right? Because they can take significant control of that division coming off a by with a lot of hype on this team right now. So it's a big step up game for them. I like Green Bay at home minus one and a half now. If Bosa doesn't play, this defense is very good. It's just not. I don't know if it's smartly schemed. It's okay. Fred Warner's numbers are down. Bosa is really the linchpin of the defense. And when he's out and he's banged up consistently,
Starting point is 00:54:58 it's not very good. And I say this about San Francisco. You are what your record is. They're a five and five football team. And they're not very good on special teams. They don't get the consistent pass rush. Brock Purdy is fine. He's not the issue. They miss a deep threat now. Christian McCaffrey is still not at 100%. on the road Green Bay the best kind of team to bet they won and played poorly you can coach them hard
Starting point is 00:55:26 Green Bay's home minus one and a half sharper square totally square the wise guys are all over the Niners here the number was a two and a half they were kind of waiting
Starting point is 00:55:36 on the Brock Purdy news because it leaked out that he had a sore shoulder and was going to be day to day he practiced yesterday and looked fine so it's really not about
Starting point is 00:55:47 Mick Bosa here was about Brock Purdy. And the wise guys, look at the Niners. You just mentioned luck. There's no bigger difference this week in sort of our luck rankings than the Packers, who are at the top of the luck rankings with how lucky they've gotten this year in games they've won. A lot of turnover luck, a lot of blocked kick luck wrapped up in one specific play last week. The Niners have had terrible luck, terrible turnovers at the wrong time,
Starting point is 00:56:17 terrible injuries at the wrong time in multiple games, right? So you're looking at two teams that are really diametrically opposite in terms of how things have played out for them. And you ask a lot of wise guys, and they'll say they have this game even on the road at Green Bay, Power Rader to pick. So you're getting a point and a half of value right now on the Niners. So that's why the wise guys like them. Rams didn't look great. And they have no home field advantage. I like Philly minus two and a half. It'll be a 60 to 70% Philadelphia crowd. The Rams defense is very interesting, but incredibly young, and they're kind of pedestrian on offense with a quarterback that doesn't move particularly well. I think rosters, it's a mismatch. It'll be actually a semi-home field
Starting point is 00:57:05 advantage for Philadelphia. They're humming. I don't have to love Nick Seriani. They are humming. Sequin Barclay is playing the best football. He's ever played in his life. They're pretty healthy. Eagles minus two and a half, kind of surprised at the line. I thought it would be bigger, sharper square. Well, it's not bigger because it keeps bouncing around. There's no consensus here. We talked about this on the favorites today, that there's no real wise guy side. They've come in on the Rams when it's at three. They've come in on the Eagles when it's at two and a half, and that's basically how it's going to go. I'm with you. I love the Eagles here. I've been on the Rams the past two weeks. I felt like they were in good spots against the dolphins, lost it, in good spots
Starting point is 00:57:48 against the Pats, won it. The offensive line is not playing well. And they're not protecting Matthew Stafford very well. And the key to this team, and you and I have talked about this, Sean McVeigh, for all of his motion and sort of gadgetry, he likes to run the ball. And that's the strength of this team. I don't see the Rams being able to run the ball against the interior defense of the Eagles, who, by the way, Vic Fangio, brilliant defensive coordinator since week five, the Eagles have gone from 27th in EPA, which is basically a fancy way of saying how many points they're expected to give up on defense on a particular play to first.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Like this defense has finally figured out what he was trying to teach them and they're locked in in the back of the secondary. Cooper Degene is one of the top rated cover cornerbacks according to pro football focus that should have an impact on what can happen with Cooper Cup and Pooke and Pooka Nukuoka. So I'm with you. I like the Eagles here. I think it's a good spot for them. Ravens off a wildly emotional Pittsburgh game go back on the road. The Chargers, we said this a month ago, now that they're healthy, are a really good football team. Special teams, offense. They're resourceful on offense. They're physical on defense. They're getting two and a half. Baltimore does not have like a Pittsburgh Green Bay, San Francisco crowd. So it will be mostly a Chargers fan base. at home. Again, Chargers come off a win, feeling good about themselves and comfortable. The Ravens come off a physical, emotional rivalry game. I like the Chargers plus two and a half
Starting point is 00:59:26 sharper square. Two and a half is not where the wise guys like it. They loved it at three. I think if you're playing a two and a half, you're kind of tempting fate, right? You would expect this to be a field goal game. We both love the Chargers. We've talked. talked about how much we love the Chargers. We played the Chargers in multiple spots this season. Defensively, they're great, but who have they really played? We saw a little bit of that Achilles' heel against the Bengals
Starting point is 00:59:55 when the Bengals did such a good job coming back and probably should have won that game, if not for some really some bad miss kicks and a couple of bad flags. And the Chargers kind of blew it, right? So can the Chargers do to the Ravens what other teams have done all year, which has beat them in the second half?
Starting point is 01:00:13 through the air. They have the talent. I think everyone is seeing what's going on with Lab McConkey and are excited about him as a connection with Justin Herbert. But the charters have been terrible in the second half this year. So you're going to have to expect them to do something they haven't done this year in the second half, which is convert. And you're going to have to expect them to do it and basically win the game because you're betting less than the field goal. So at two and a half, it's just not very sure. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just
Starting point is 01:00:53 contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we, how do we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
Starting point is 01:01:23 where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.
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Starting point is 01:05:28 I like the Patriots plus seven and a half of the dolphins, divisional rivalry game. I think Drake May is finding himself. Miami's one of those teams where you're never quite sure exactly what you get. They blow more opportunities than they should. I think Miami wins this game, but this just feels like an obvious sharp side. New England playing hard. People playing for stuff here. young team, young coach, young quarterback.
Starting point is 01:05:55 They're not playing like they want the number one pick, nor do they need it because they have their quarterback. They're not soft tanking for Shadoor Sanders. You know, they have to upgrade it positions, defensive end and wide receiver, and it's a defensive end wide receiver draft. I like the Patriots to play hard, keep it close, sharper square. Yeah, this is an eye test game where at seven and a half, the wise guys like the Patriots. There's no doubt about it. And if you've watched the dolphins the past two weeks, they were fine against the Rams.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Their defensive line played great. They got to Matthew Stafford. But the Rams gave that game away. Five field goals. They couldn't score touchdowns. They were missing snaps. They were thrown, you know, tipped interceptions. They did not play well.
Starting point is 01:06:42 And if you look at the game against the Raiders last week, the dolphins were only up by five points with three and a half minutes left. there was a miracle defensive pass interference against the Raiders. They gave the Dolphins the ball and converted a third down for them instead of getting the Raiders the ball back. And that was sort of the end of the game. And they end up scoring 35 points or whatever it is. But they were up five by five points. The Raiders were going to cover that game. And if they had gotten the ball back, potentially won that game.
Starting point is 01:07:13 So I just haven't been impressed with the Dolphins, whereas I have been really impressed with Drake May. he's just a gamer. And I think the biggest problem for this Patriots team is Gerard Mayo is such a conservative play caller. It doesn't seem to really know how to run the math yet. When you're going for two, should you go for one? When do you want to go for it on fourth down? He's coaching like a defensive coordinator in key sort of pivot spots for the game. And that's where the biggest challenge comes in.
Starting point is 01:07:49 for the Patriots to cover. But the wise guys are with you. They like the seven and a half. I like the Colts at home getting seven and a half. Lions, remember, they have to play on Thanksgiving. And they're playing perfect football. The Colts, I thought Anthony Richardson looked as good as he has ever looked. I think they've kind of figured out what he is.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Some of that is the Jets aren't very good. But I've been saying this for a month. I like the Colts personnel. I really do. I have both of their lines, especially their O-line that got playmakers on the outside. I could see the lions looking ahead to Thanksgiving. They're blowing people out.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I'm going to take the Colts plus seven and a half at home, Sharper Square. Couldn't be sharper. Sharpest play of the week. Like the Colts are one of those teams where a lot of wise guys, when they look at this, certainly how I think about it when I'm deciding if I want to bet one of these ugly dogs, is do I believe this is sort of the right side from a number perspective?
Starting point is 01:08:49 Is the team they are playing against going to have an overinflated number because they're public because of what they've been doing? The answer to that is yes. Nobody is winning at a better clip than the Lions. They are the odds on favor to win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:09:04 That number is naturally going to be bigger. That's number one. Great. I like the Colts here. Number two, do I believe there's a part of the game where they can be dominant? You just mentioned their offensive line. Best run blocking unit in the NFL, Jonathan Taylor has been playing great.
Starting point is 01:09:20 And I think with Anthony Richardson, I think he played great last week. I think with his ability to run against a defensive front that cannot get pressure since Aidan Hutchinson. They just can't. Every stat will show you they are not a team that's getting a lot of pressure. So that's number two. I like that. Number three, there are a ton of trends that back this up.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And sometimes trends can be self-fulfilling. But in this case, like you got teams who are rose. favorites, the game after being a double-digit favorite in any location. They've had significant against the spread struggles the past decade, 43% against the spread. Teams that are averaging 33 plus points and a 90% win percentage, those teams in this scenario, 32% against the spread. And if they are coming off a double-digit win, 25% against the spread, there's a lot of match-up reasons. there's a lot of inflation reasons and there's trend reasons. So checks out of the boxes.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Okay, a game I want you to talk me into Broncos minus six at the Raiders. I know it's a divisional rivalry, but when you have young quarterbacks and young teams growing in confidence, sometimes the market's behind them. Denver's a really interesting team right now. So we know their defense has been exceptional. Bo Nex is making leaps like big, no turnovers, moving well. Sean Payton text me this week and he's like, you know, you guys, his arm is way better than anybody understands. Greg CoSell echoed that this week. He's like, he's making NFL elite throws down the middle of the field. Hard, deep throws. Arm is not an issue. Talk me into it. I think the Broncos are the side for me, Sharper Square.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah, that's some of the feedback I've been getting to this week as wise guys continue to be really impressed with the Broncos and feel like they've been emboldened by that Chiefs loss. And we saw it last week, right? Like the wise guys, they were coming all over on the Broncos. They loved the Broncos in that game. And it matched, right? Like it was a Falcons team that was coming in and they were supposed to be a good team and the Broncos blew them out of the water.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Similarly, they're feeling the same way this week about the Raiders. I think the number's gotten too high. it's at six, and that's because the wise guys have been betting it up. There's no match-up reason to like the Raiders. They're a terrible team. They seem to keep themselves in every game until Gardner Minshu has some ridiculous turnover. He's got four lost fumbles this year, which is, I think, second in the NFL. He's got, I think, nine interceptions, which is third in the NFL, 13 total turnover.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Like, that's the script for this game. His Gardner Minshue's down by 12 points, double-digit, something, has a chance to put his team and get him through the back door, and he does something that costs his team the game, and, you know, he loses the ball, he fumbles, whatever. So you're probably on the right side, but I think you've lost the value in the number. Okay, and finally, give me a game I missed.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I like Kansas City off a loss minus 11 at Carolina. but I'll stay away. But I think generally, you know, Andy Reid doesn't lose. Patrick Mahom doesn't lose, even though he's not a great big favorite. Carolina is a bad team and Kansas City's pissed off. So I kind of like him. But give me something else. Well, look, it's Kansas City and Carolina.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I hate to say it. Like the wise guys like Carolina here, they like what they've seen from Bryce Young. In the past two weeks that he played, they like the idea that this is also a really good run blocking unit. and while the chiefs run blocking, run stopping defense is elite, there's still an opportunity here for the chiefs. And if they aren't running it very well, they have liked what they've seen, the wise guys have liked what they've seen from Bryce Young
Starting point is 01:13:27 and his ability to find the right receivers, especially against the chief secondary that isn't very good. You've got to go on the road. Win is a double-digit favorite. It's just a bad spot. And historically, now this year, double-digit favorites are rushing. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Like, it's been... That's my take at the top of this podcast was... Yeah. The separate... We're getting to be the NBA. The difference between Denver and Orlando is significant. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:59 So, let me give you a couple stats here then. If you're going to be talking about this, because it helps illuminate it a little bit. So, double-digit favorites are 5-0 this year. It's the first time they've been undefeated, not against the spread, just undefeated, this late in the year in 20 seasons, only the second time in the past 40 seasons. Here's how extraordinary this is, though.
Starting point is 01:14:23 They are undefeated against the spread. For that, you have to go back to 1950. That is the last time double-digit favorites were undefeated against the spread through 11 weeks. Let me put this in context for you, Colin. The point spread was less than a decade. old in 1950. It was invented in like 1941 by a commodities trader in Chicago. So the last time there was this kind of double-digit cover streak was 1950 and the spread was an infant. It barely existed. Before that. That's how unprecedented this is. People were betting pith helmets and bales of hay. I mean, there was just, what did you do? Exactly. Durups. And wouldn't. Nichols, you know?
Starting point is 01:15:14 Chad Milman. So they're going to be on this. But the point is, the wise guys are going to be on the Panthers. They're going to bet against the trend. Same thing with the Titans, by the way. They don't love it, but they're going to bet against how bad the Titans have been against the spread. They're going to bet against the inflation you get from the Texans, beating the Cowboys
Starting point is 01:15:33 in prime time. They haven't been impressed. We see Jay Stroud this year. They do like the Titans defense. Talk about unlucky. The Titans seem to shoot themselves in the Falms. foot every week. So if they can get one of these breaks, that's the difference in a game where the number is more than a touchdown. Chad Milman, good to you, good seeing you, buddy. Good to see you too,
Starting point is 01:15:52 brother. The volume. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 01:17:35 It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come in to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog.
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