The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Draymond, Rivera/Wentz Takes, Joe Burrow on Ravens L Bounce Back + NFL Week 6 Best Bets

Episode Date: October 15, 2022

This is Prime Cuts! The best of The Colin Cowherd Podcast. First, Colin gives his final verdict about Draymond Green blasting Jordan Poole with a viral haymaker, and explains why there’s no walking back Commanders HC Ron Rivera’s negative public comments about Carson Wentz. Then, Bengals Quarterback Joe Burrow on losing a nail biter to AFC North rival Ravens, how he processes and moves past a tough loss, why it’s important for him to look for big play opportunities despite opposing teams specifically game planning to prevent them, why he still has confidence in HC Zac Taylor despite heavy media criticism, if he was surprised that his comments about playing through concussions gained media traction,, what the Bengals are doing well and what they need to improve through 5 weeks, how he would handle a backup QB like Cooper Rush threatening his starting job. Joe also answers some rapid fire questions, including the fiercest competitor he’s faced, the most talented non-Bengals receiver, and the most physically freakish opponent, and which player gets the Burrow stamp of approval for the best fashion sense. Finally, Action Network's Chad Millman tells Colin if his NFL Week 6 picks are "sharp" or "square" for Ravens/Giants, Bengals/Saints, Cowboys/Eagles, Bills/Chiefs, Niners/Falcons, and Cardinals/Seahawks. Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #herd #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and Coward podcast. NFL week six is here. Joe Burroughs back with us. Tough Sunday lost of the Ravens talks about what his Bengals need to fix. The criticism of Zach Taylor and names his favorite players not in his own team. Also Chad Millman's Sharper Square. Week six best bets. First though, my top takes of the week. So it's interesting. There's been great debate on the Dremont Green fight. if this happens a lot or if it's a rare occurrence. So Kevin Durant said, I think it's rare. Jeff Van Gundy said, I think it's rare. Damien Lillard said, I've seen it more in college than pros, but it happens all the time.

Steve Kerr said he saw it at least 20 times. So who's telling the truth? Let's label it a skirmish. Guys square each other up. Guys get each other in a headlock. Guys swing and miss. guys flail. I mean, even the fights we've seen during games, how many knockouts are there? Baseball, football, basketball, hockey, not that many, right? But a fight, a skirmish.

So I think it happens a lot because I've been told it happens a lot by people I trust, like Dame and Steve Kerr. Jeff Van Gundy came out and said, it just doesn't happen very often. And the irony of Jeff Van Gundy, saying it is quite interesting. The one coaching memory I have of Jeff Van Gundy is in a fight, holding the leg of a player at the bottom of a scrum. This stuff never happens. Jeff, that's the only thing I ever remember about you,

holding on a leg during a fistfight. So Van Gundy said it doesn't happen often, yet acknowledged he saw two fistfights. So let's use it. Jeff Van Gundy as the median, right? Half the coaches in the last, say, 20 years have seen less than Jeff and half more. So we looked it up today. In the last 20 years, easy number.

There's been 141 NBA coaches. 141. If on average, they've seen two skirmishes. And that's the word skirmish. Sometimes you swing and miss. Sometimes you wrestle. Sometimes it's a headlock. sometimes players intervene. Sometimes you land a punch. 141 coaches 20 years. If each has seen two,

it's happened 282 times. Does that sound infrequent? Steve Kerr said he's seen 20. So I was talking to somebody who was very, very close with Steve Kerr. So I covered Steve Kerr in Portland. I don't know Steve well, but well enough that if I saw him in a restaurant, I'd stop by, we'd shoot the shit. He'd ask a question. I'd ask a question, very respectful. Steve and I got along great, very smart guy. So somebody I know that knows Steve Kerr very well. When he asked him about that fight and this person, you know, said, you were in a fight,

the Michael Jordan fight. Kerr's response was, yeah, it looked a lot like that. of course it did. Michael Jordan got a flush punch on Steve Kerr. You didn't see the video. So you hold Michael Jordan the great leader in very high esteem. That's the difference. 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, in the early 90s, we didn't have TMZ. We didn't have iPhones. We didn't have access to this. A couple weeks ago, people freaked out because Ken Dorsey threw headsets in a coaching cubicle upstairs at an NFL game. I've sat next to coaching cubicles. That happens every game. Yelling, screaming, cussing, throwing things. Did you see the reaction

around Ken Dorsey by the other coaches? He didn't even flinch during the Draymond fight. People moved over, but the coach's initial reaction, if you saw the six or seven people, they moved over, they didn't rush, they didn't act like this was a once-in-a-lifetime moment. I'm not saying that big knockout punches happen all the time. But when Tiger Woods had an affair, the outrage over Tiger Woods, I thought, was incredibly laughable. Two or three of the most popular golfers of all time were known as absolute dogs on the tour. but you didn't have paparazzi, Tiger Woods faced it. You didn't have iPhones.

You didn't have bloggers, the media, people invading your space. Don't confuse something is rare and you just haven't seen it before. There's a big difference. So Ron Rivera on Sunday was asked what the primary issue was. with the Washington football team, the commanders. And in a one-word answer, he said, quarterback, ugh. He walked it back. He had a mea-culp-cola.

But there are certain mea-culpas that just don't work. It's out there. Will Smith to Chris Rock, not really a mea-culpa moment. I think Ron Rivera and Mike Zimmer and Bill Belichick and Vic Fangio and Brian Flores are your sort of classic archetypal defensive head coaches. And I'm not talking Woody Hayes of the 70s, but there's a way they want to win and it's ball control, running game and very few turnovers.

I think that's something that really, really bothers a defensive coach is the turnover, the interception. Pete Carroll, it just cannot get past turnovers. And the truth is, if they're between the 35s, they're just a change. possession. You don't want to turn it over at the one yard line, your territory or theirs. But because now there's no huddle, each offense gets about 12 to 15 more snaps per game. And over the course, I mean, Tom Brady's now throwing 45, 50 times a game.

You're going to have an interception. You've got to take the good with the bad. And I think a lot of these defensive coaches really struggle with it. Sean McVeigh knew when he brought in Matt Stafford. He threw picks. Matt Stafford was at times reckless. Joe Burrell throws interceptions. You know who doesn't? Aaron Rogers. He can't get out of the first round.

So my takeaway is Ron Rivera may apologize, but that's how he thinks. I mean, I've said this before. There are certain mistakes that it's like who you are, right? and you can apologize and you can genuinely feel bad about saying them, but it's what you believe. And I think the way Ron Rivera sees football is very much in line with a defensive coach in his 50s. And to him, Carson Wentz at times can be reckless, but I will note this. The Colts were ninth in scoring last year. Wentz leaves their 32nd.

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So I just found this out today, Joe. This Bengals team is the first team in league history to lose three of the first five games on the last play of the game. So somebody said this years ago, I don't know if it's true, that you're better to get blown out. You can bury the tape. It doesn't matter that losing close is just a killer. And I think to myself, no, because essentially, if you'd have had the ball last, you'd have won. I thought you did. So, like, where are you emotionally after losing a game like that?

Yeah, it was, you know, you let yourself be devastated for about two hours. And then you go watch the tape and it's on to the next week. That's life in the NFL. You know, we've got plenty of football left. Obviously, we're disappointed with, you know, how we've lost the games that we've lost. But, you know, I think that we've progressed nicely. would have liked to have won the last game, but I think we learned a lot of lessons from that game going forward that I think are going to help us.

I think the greatest compliment you can pay a young quarterback is to take away something from him. You and Patrick Mahomes, literally the league now is like, okay, they burn us over the top. We're not allowing that anymore. And statistically, it's showing up as fewer big plays. I watched you the other night. you look patient to me. But in the end, part of your secret sauce last year, Joe, was big plays. Can you scheme those?

Like, where are you on that in that area? Well, you know, the three games we've lost, we haven't had any big plays in the common denominator in all three games is that we've fallen behind early. You know, the two games we've won, we jumped out to a lead. Defense has had to be more aggressive because we were leading and allowed us to hit some of those big plays. When you get down 10-0 nothing early, you know, defense is not going to be as aggressive. They're not going to play man-to-man as much as you would

like them to. And so, you know, we fought back, got a tie took the lead at the end. But, you know, if we jump out early, teams are going to have to start playing as more man-to-man, be more aggressive. And, you know, I thought overall, you know, the first quarter was poor. You know, we didn't move the ball the way we like to, but then after that, we went touchdown, two minute, field goal, and then I had the bad interception in the second half, and then we had two drives after that, one touchdown, and when we got down to the two, so we moved the ball well after that first quarter.

Just got to find a way to punch it in the end zone and make those plays at the end of the end up winning the game for you. I've always, I always feel, what do I know, that play callings a little overrated, that play efficiency. If you do the play right, you're fine. Fans just crush play calling. Zach Taylor's just getting killed. And my takeaway is, this is hard. They're, they're reading your audibles. Do you ever look at a game after and say, oh, I should have fought for this play? Oh, I can't believe we did that. You always look back and evaluate everything that goes on the game. You know, for me, I'm evaluating every single play. I could have thrown it here. If I would have done it,

this instead of this. It might have won us the game. That's always happens when you lose a game. Everybody wants to talk about the decision to go forward on fourth down. If we end up scoring on that play, we go up four points and it changes the entire game. So, you know, I was happy with that decision. You look at that moment in the game and we had just started moving the ball really well. Their offense had started to roll a little bit. You get that touchdown completely. changes the game we're talking about. Right. Is there ever a time that you have ever said to a coach, I heard Peyton Manning say this about two months ago on ESPN. He said, sometimes you're just struggling to get four yards. He goes, I've turned to the coach and say, you know, just get points.

We're not blocking them. This year, has there ever been a point where you're like, listen, just take the points? No, I would always, you know, whatever. whatever Zach or any of our coaches decided to do, it's our job to go out and execute. And I love being putting those do-or-die spots on fourth down. If you got to, you know, those are high-pressure situations that I feel like I excel in. And, you know, if you, you know, those are game-turning, game-changing plays. And if you get that fourth down, if you get the fourth downs throughout the game, you're going to completely change the outcome of the game.

And so you're going to have to take gambles in this league sometime. And sometimes they don't pay off and you're going to lose the game. But sometimes they do. And then you're a genius when you do it. And so it's just the outcome hindsight is always 2020. And you can look back and determine what you think he should have done in that situation. But, you know, like I said, if we get it, completely different narrative. You know, it's funny. You, Trent Dilfer, Drew Bledsoe, every quarterback that I have talked to at length in my life has said the exact same thing you said last week. There's halves I don't remember. Like, I play quarterback. I've been hit. I've been hit and I don't even know I'm hit. Were you surprised how quotable that was? I mean, I thought it was Joe Burrell's being totally honest. I even got hit in high school. Now, it was single A football and it was probably a five, eight defensive.

back. But were you surprised that it kind of took off socially? Yeah. You know, fortunately for me, I'm not, I'm not exactly on the internet and on social media all the time. So I'm not seeing all the reactions. But I think if you talk to any player throughout the entire league, they're going to have the same story that I had. That's just part of the game. You can do all you can to make it safer and help eliminate those kind of things. But at the end of the day, it's a violent game and those things are going to happen. Yeah. So there's obviously, I was talking to Mike Pereira today, the former head of officials,

about like the Jarrett Brady call or the Chris Jones call. And I'm like, man, it feels like an overreach. And I, he surprised me. He said he doesn't think the league has talked to officials. He thinks officials read the paper and they watch shows. And they feel like we got to protect the quarterback. And when you watch, if you watch the Derek Carmel, I thought it was the best defensive play of the year by a defensive lineman. I thought Chris Jones did something that's insane, literally get a sack and a turnover simultaneously.

I thought Jared, who's an, I don't know if you played against him, he's just a fantastic player. I didn't think his was a penalty. When you see those and it's protecting your position, how does it land for you? I think it depends on the individual play. I think the diving into the quarterback's knees is a good rule. You know, that's, you know, it wasn't malicious when I got hurt. It was an accident, but that's how I got hurt my rookie year. And that's a very dangerous play.

And you see the full body weight rule, you know, that's how Aaron Rogers broke his collarbone back in the day. That's how quarterbacks hurt their shoulders. And so I think it's just depends on how we want. the game to be officiated. Do you want your best players and best marketable athletes out on the field at all times? Or do you want

to have the big hits that everybody loves? It's a give and take. I think there's probably a happy medium that we can find. But I think we're getting into that direction. It's such an emotional

game. And today, Tuesday, as I always do my top 10. And I had you guys at like seven or eight. And the guy on the show is like, they're like two and three. And I said, they're not standings. I do this because of what I believe. I watch the games.

I'm like, that game is just a tennis match. Last serve wins. I thought Joe won the game. Then it's, you know, Lamar's great. But it is interesting. When I watched both of you that game is that it was uneven. Like you struggled early. He had a couple passes where he missed.

it. In basketball, Joe, it's understood that a guy gets hot, like Jordan gets hot, Kobe gets hot. I felt you had a point in the second half. I'm like, you're really in a zone. I watch your feet. Your feet get light. And I know I may be reaching here. But when I watch you, I feel like when you're in your zone, you play light. You move. You're kind of like bouncing. Does that make sense? When you're in a zone, what do you feel like? Yeah, I feel like the defense is slowing down for me. And that happens more later in the game. Going into every single game, we've been facing different coverages than teams have been showing on tape just because of how explosive our receivers are, how good we were on offense last year.

And so the beginnings of games have kind of been a feeling out process. And I think at the end of games, we've been good. We just need to find a way to make those adjustments faster. so we don't waste an entire quarter in three possessions trying to figure it out. And I thought, you know, I got in my zone about midway through the second quarter. You know, I was feeling good, which is why I was so disappointed in the interception, really bad interception for me that, you know, I felt like cost us the game. And other than that, play the second quarter on, I felt like I was playing lights out.

And, you know, that one was disappointing for me. So, okay, you're four or five, you're five games into a season. So essentially, you know, you're past the quarter mark. What are you happy about right now? Like, what is something, if I have a bad day or a bad week, I try to go back and kind of embrace the good part. Let's figure out what I did right. What are you happy with right now with your play in the Bengals overall?

I'm really happy with the way we've seen. fought back in the games that we've lost. You know, we've been down, we were down big to Steelers, down big to the Cowboys, down 10-0 early in the game to the Ravens, and we ended up finding back and putting ourselves in position to win every single game. So that's what I've been happy with, you know, disappointed in the way that those games turned out. And, you know, the lack of explosives in those games.

But like I said, if you get behind the chains and you're in second and 10, it's going be tough to hit those big plays down the field. And I think we're getting better, better at, you know, taking the checkdowns and turning those two-yard catches into eight-yard gains and moving the ball down the field, six, seven, eight yards at a time. That's what we did in the second half. You know, we had two eight-minute drives, 10, 12, 15-play drives that, you know, were big parts of the game.

We only had three drives in the second half. And one of them, like I said, was my horrible interception. But other than that, you know, we methodically move the ball down the field. And I think that's what we're going to have to do going forward. We're just going to have to do it earlier in games. I mean, God, Kansas City was down 17-0 nothing last night. Like, I've been telling people this for years. We'll never have in my lifetime again a bad, wide receiver class in the NFL draft.

Like in California, Joe, I follow recruiting because I've been into it for years. The top 100 players next year in high school in California, like, 30 are wide receivers. And the way my look at it is, if I was young and talented and I was 12, I'd want to be a receiver or a quarterback. You can't hit me. I make money. The girls like me.

I get on TV. I mean, it's seriously. Like, young people start the culture. Like, I look at it right now. And I just think the new NFL, you're in the new NFL. A 17-0 lead is like, all right. I mean, seriously, when you, your first year's football, 7. $1.0.0. Lede, the game's over. Seriously, in high school, it's over. I mean, so like, when you're, when you're in a game now, can you sense like offense is fast? The receivers? I mean, it's a different game today than it was for you 15 years ago and you took your first snaps. Well, it is. And, you know, like you said, it's a quarterback receiver league now. And you see defenses adjusting and changing the way that they play because of it. And you see the, the Tyreeks, the

Mars, the Devante Adams, you know, they're changing defensive structure in a way that hasn't really been done before. And that's part of the rules these days. And it's part of the growth of the game and the seven-on-seven culture growing up. People are throwing and catching way earlier than they ever have been in the past. No question. And, you know, quarterbacks are just going to continue to get better and better. And I think you really see it in the diversity of, skill sets that quarterback's having the NFL today. You know, you have Kyler Murray, who the knock on him is he short, but he makes up for it with his speed and accuracy.

And then you have Justin Herbert, who's the big, strong, prototypical quarterback of the past, but he can move. And you have me, the tall skinny kid that can move and is accurate, may not have the biggest arm. And you have the Lamars, the Josh Allen's, the Patrick Mahomes. I mean, everybody is, and Tom Brady is still playing really well. it's just such a diversity of skill sets throughout the league that is really great for the game and great for young people that you don't have to be 65, 250 anymore to be a quarterback in the league.

I think it's just going to continue to show. So when Jimmy Garoppolo was in New England, Tom Brady's the goat and he didn't want him there. And it's pretty well documented. He was like, I don't want to be sharing snaps. So it's easy for everybody to say, you're the starter, Dak. He's the backup. That sounds good.

But if my company hired somebody and he took over for me for five weeks and the ratings went up, I've been doing this forever. I'd be like, I'm not a big fan of that. So what if your backup ones like the Cowboys won five or six straight games? Would there be that would you get up in the morning and think, Okay, I got to take more protein powder. I mean, I'm rooting. You obviously want your team to win.

But it's, I think it is hard. Like when you were out, you want your team to win, obviously. Somebody once told me, like, there's really only one quarterback in a roster. You know this at Ohio State. You're the starter or you're just literally not in the plans. Do you think about that? Like, grateful to be the starter. What if I wasn't the starter?

The Dallas, when you hear guys like me or people talk about the backup situation, What do you make of it? You know, that's a tough one because, you know, it's easy to sit on the outside and say, you know, this guy's the starter, this guy's the backup. But when you're in it and you're feeling it, it definitely creates more of an urgency to get back. And one, to get back as fast as you can. But two, also, it's a double-sided coin. Make sure you're completely healthy. So when you are back, you're able to play well and do what you need to do the win in the game.

And so, you know, that's a part of the reason that, you know, when I hurt my knee, I wanted to make sure I came back and played the entire season the next season and be back week one. You know, I had a good start to my career, but, you know, I hadn't really proven anything yet. And I still, to this day, I feel like I have to prove myself. And that was a big part. I think the best quarterbacks are always trying to prove themselves to the world, to themselves, to their coaches, to ownership. And so it's always tough when you're down and, you know, your team's playing great without you.

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He wasn't on the field for one of our games last year, and you can really feel the difference in that defense when he's on the field. He's such a good player, makes place that a lot of defense events can't make. He's not just a pass rusher. He really understands, you know, quarterback's drops and when it might be a deeper pass and he can rush the passer, and when it's a quick game, and he can stop and get his hands up. Both Wap Brothers are really good at batting balls.

And so he's a great player. The most talented receiver not on the Bengals is... I mean, Tyree Kill is always fun to watch. Devonte Adams playing against him last year was unreal in person. When Tyree Hill gets the ball in his hands, it just looks different than everybody else. He's just moving at a different. speed. It's pretty incredible.

Is there a player that you look at in the NFL and think he'd be great on the bingles? You know, there's a lot of great play. I'm going to give the stereotypical quarterback answer on this one. There's a lot of great players in the league that you would love to play with. Every week, you know, there's somebody that you've got to pay attention to that is going to be a game wrecker. and the more great players you can have on your team, the better. All right. The player on another team, and maybe you answered it, is so good, you think he may be an alien. LeBron James said this about a French player that's 18 years old the other day.

He's like, I think he's an alien. He's 7'4 and shoots like a guard. Who's the most physically impressive? Like, if you ever shirts off or you're on the sidelines or you watch me, you're like, what is that? Oh, Miles Garrett is an absolute freak of nature. I mean, unbelievable. Cam Hayward is a pretty impressive human being in person.

The first time I played him, I thought he looked like a bear. He's so big and strong. I mean, there's a lot of people like that. Those two guys are the first two that come to the mind in our division, though. Yeah, your division, by the way, is Miles Garrett, Hayward, T.J. Watt. Oh my God. You picked a bad division to have a soft pass rush.

God, it's brutal. We've talked about your fashion before. Who have you ever looked at in the league and thought he gets it? Fashion-wise, he gets it. It's a good question. I'm not sure. There's a lot of people with, I think not everybody likes to mix it up.

You know, some people are suits on game day. Some people are, you know, more street. where I like to mix it up, you know, the occasional suit, occasional streetwear. The guy on our team that I think is, has great fashion is Cheeto, Chito Ouzier, our corner. He's, he's Nigerian. He has a lot of great, I mean, just great outfits that are very pertinent towards culture. You should go check some of those out there really, really, really cool to look at. Finally, it's week five. How do you feel? feel? Are you sore? You told me you bruise like a peach. We're doing this interview on Tuesday.

You just played a division rival. How do you feel today? What is what is Tuesday afternoon Joe Burrow feel like? My body actually feels great today. I'm feeling strong in the weight room. You know, my workouts are starting to get back to where they were pre-appendix surgery. And so I'm starting to feel, you know, my body is starting to get to mid-season form. I'm happy with it. I'm feeling fast, feeling strong. not ready to go. Time for another edition of Sharp or Square with our betting superhero, Chad Millman, C-C-O of the Action Network, all odds provided by Fandul. Okay, they had a losing week. But it was a half a point within a winning week. Let's start with this. The betting public

overreacts. Giants beat the Packers. Now everybody thinks the Giants are suddenly a great team. Ravens were minus five now minus six. That's a dead number, as you told me last week, minus five. The Ravens are the better team. The Ravens just faced the Bengals, and it looked ugly because it's a divisional foe, and Cincinnati is a pretty good team. Minus five, minus six, the Ravens are going to go in. It's right back to reality for the Giants.

By the way, Daniel Jones is a better road quarterback than a home quarterback. I take the Ravens to cover Sharper Square. Did somebody send you my script before I came on? Because I don't even, I'm flabbergasted at the thoughtfulness, at the strategy, at the reaction, at how you're reading the market, how you're thinking strategically about the numbers. You've said it all, Colin Cowherd. It's almost like you've graduated. The wise guys are all over the Ravens. Okay. It moved from three and a half to five and a half. As you said to six, I think six,

the six is always the line of demarcation in betting, especially now because these coaches are all cuckoo, right? And you don't know if they're going to go for it. You don't know if they're going to go for the extra point, if they're going to go for the two point conversion. So you're right on the number, play it up to six. You're right on the side. Here's what's really interesting. Eighty-five percent of this money is on the Ravens right now, but you're still seeing some tickets come in on the Giants because of everything you just said, that public perception people are buying into the 4-1 Giants, what Lamar Jackson is really, really good at. In addition to growing so much over the past couple of years, understanding where he is on the

field when he's running with the ball, he's great against the Blitz. And the Giants defensive coordinator, Wink Martindale, who obviously spent all those years with the Ravens, loved. to Blitz. So you've got a great quarterback against the Blitz, a defensive coordinator who likes to Blitz. You've got Ronnie Stanley on the offensive line who was alternating series last week, coming back full strength. Take the Ravens, call it today. Here's another one. Mike Tomlin Steelers plus eight and a half at home. I always believe after a team, especially a functional team, is humiliated. Take him the following week. This is not at Buffalo. It's not 25 mile an hour wins.

It's a Tampa team, frankly, that has sputtered with Todd Bulls offensively. Tampa wins the game. Greg Kosell told me today, Kenny Pickett was actually okay. They just have no running game. I'm taking the eight and a half, sharper square. Honestly, where's Colin? Somebody find Collum and put him back on the goddamn podcast. This wasn't even, you know, every week, like pull back the curtain a little bit, a little bit.

your producers will send me the games that you're thinking about. This was not on the list, and this was on my list to convince you of when at the end you will say to me, give me a game that I'm not thinking about. It is so gross. You got to take the Steelers. Every trend points to the Steelers. We have this database at Action Network tracks millions of betting data points going back to 2003. A team in the Steelers spot. which is coming off a blowout loss, they're a big dog at home. They're getting less than 30% of

the betting tickets is what the Steelers are getting. They cover 61% of the time in this spot. I don't like to give precedents where the data set and the sample size isn't very big. This is a few hundred games. We're not talking about like 10-0 on Thursday night football, right? So this is a classic fade the public spot. Nobody wants to do it. You just hold your nose, professional. are doing just that. The numbers bounced around from eight and a half down to eight. And then every time it gets to eight, it goes back to eight and a half. Pros like the Steelers.

Well done, Colin. Those are my two, those are my two bets, my best bets. I would like to go Blazing Two, but it just doesn't have the impact of Blazing Five. Terrific two. But I've told you this for years, I've always got three bets I like. And then at the end, I called it Blazing Five. I was an idiot. I should have come out with Blazing Two.

I'd never miss a game. So here's a game that's interesting. There are teams that sometimes have bad records that I really like. I think the Raiders are a real interesting one in 14, four close losses to decent clubs. Cincinnati's another one of those teams. I think Cincinnati, I take the first game out because of the surgery for Joe Burrell. No practice, no preseason. He, Stafford, and Brady were awful in week one.

Okay, so I start with them kind of the second half against the Dallas Cowboys. At that point, they've been competent. Now, they're not averaging much per play, but James Winston has regressed badly. Taysam Hill can be fun, but in his career rarely has had big back-to-back rushing games. I don't think the Saints are very good. Cincinnati's in a fairly desperate spot now because Baltimore beat them. I'd swallow the one and a half, and I would take the bingo, sharp or something. square. What happened to Colin? He was so sharp and now he's so, he's so, so square. You've chosen

one of the squarest plays on the board. It's a, it's a game that every wise guy I've spoken to loves, loves, loves the saints. You're still getting Bengal Super Bowl inflation. You're still getting Joe Burrow inflation, which has only gotten bigger since he became a member of the volume family. This O-line is a mess, like truly a mess, and it's going up against a very good defensive line. And even though the Saints haven't gotten a ton of pressure, they also don't need to blitz. And Joe Burroughs pass-a-rating is below average when he isn't blitzed. This is a very, very good match-up for the Saints. The line has moved in their direction. It was at two. It went down to one and a half. The wise guys have this game lined as a pick. So they feel like they're

getting a lot of value here. Okay, I'm going to take the Cowboys now plus six and a half at Philadelphia. Two starters could be missing. The Eagles have yet to trail. They don't score in the second half. Cooper Rush doesn't throw interceptions. I don't know if they win. And I generally like to take the side of the team that's going to win. This number would. was a little tastier early, it's now six and a half. I have a completely disruptive defensive line that in every game they've played, Dallas has disrupted starting offensive lines. Now I got backups.

I saw what they did with the Rams backups. I'm going to take the six and a half and take Dallas here, Sharper Square. Well, the sharp side is the Eagles at four and a half, which is what I got, and five and five and a half, and even six. The reason it got to six and a half is because the wise guys had been betting it nonstop. I would still take the Eagles at six and a half. I have not gotten any feedback from professional betters that they would still take this at six and a half. So I would imagine they might like the cowboys here.

But the Cowboys are not one of those teams that professional betters generally like. And they are getting a huge benefit of doubt from the public in how this lined open, which is why the wise guys played it. Let's just take the Cowboys only as an example right now and then forget about the Eagles for a second. The Cowboys beat the Rams on a forced fumble return for a touchdown, a blocked punt that was followed up by a field goal, a 57-yard Tony Pollard touchdown run.

In that game, they had fewer first downs, fewer yards per play, more penalties. They had a couple turnovers, the couple fumbles they recovered themselves. They were outplayed by the Rams who just aren't very good right now and had a terrible offensive line. The Cowboys also looked amazing and beat up on the Washington commanders, terrible offensive line. Cincinnati Bengals, terrible offensive line. So we're all loving Cooper Rush. We're loving this defense, which is outstanding, but they're doing it against frauds. And so I like the Eagles because they're finally playing a team that has probably the best offensive line and an overall offense and a defense that can stack up against whatever the Cowboys are going to bring. All right. If you look at the history of the league when teams win by 25, 30 points one week, they don't cover the following week.

Kansas City at home getting two and a half points seems like the obvious play. I also believe it's a close game. And Kansas City is better than Buffalo last three years in close games. Chiefs plus the point, sharper square. So this is really interesting. Complete and total divide on this game. I think if you look at this number, you blindly look at this number and you see a really good team that is a short home underdog, you're automatically going to take it. And then, as you know, we do the favorites podcast on the volume podcast network, me and my BFF Simon Hunter. We got some calls from professional betters who were talking about what we talked about on Tuesday. They liked to call over the 48 hours so they can give us feedback so we can talk about it on the podcast on Thursday.

They love the bills. Loved the bills. And it's a completely unconventional spot for professional betters to like a team, which is a good team playing against a good team on the road. And that team on the road is favored. But I will tell you, there is some bubbling up. conversation out there that the chiefs aren't as good as their record shows, right? They could have easily lost a couple of these games that they won, the Chargers for one, last week against the Raiders for another. So the bills are kind of a juggernaut right now and are built specifically

to beat the Chiefs. So the Sharp side, according to the Sharp calls, is the Bills. All right, Sharper Square. The most beat up team in the league is San Francisco. They're on the road second straight week and Atlanta gets plus five and a half. We know that San Francisco wrecks offenses, but they have now five different starters out. Atlanta is 37 big plays offensively this year, which is a weird number for a very, very average team. I would take the five and a half. I think the Niners win, but I'm just not laying that on the road, time away, all beat up,

meaningless game, overconfident after wrecking Carolina. take the point sharper square. The Falcons are a really interesting team and they have been a wise guy team all year long. They continue to be a wise guy team. This is a sharp side. It's really fascinating because if you look on Twitter, I bet if you ask Greg Kosellis, the people who are inside football look at the Falcons offensive scheme and they love it. They think Arthur Smith has built a really sound, fundamental running game that can be interchangeable, right? Cordadro Patterson has been out of the lineup and they still did really well against the Bucks and almost won that game if not for, at least had the opportunity, if not for that rough in the

past recall. And so they have been leaning on their running game, which is helping them stay in the game. The biggest challenge for them in this game, I'm not saying the wise guys are walking away from the Falcons. The 49ers have a dominant rush defense. And so this will be the first real, true test of how sophisticated Arthur Smith's running game can be and can it play against the best in the league. And finally, I think it's pretty interesting. The Seahawks are now getting three, all odds provided by Fandul. Arizona is a terrible early team. So Seattle will play with the lead. It's one of the loudest stadiums. Arizona plays great.

late. But there is no proof here, though I don't buy Gino Smith continuing this trend. Seattle has been in all but one game, that against the healthier Niner team. They take leads. They're at home. They're getting a field goal. And to be honest, I get a veteran coach against the coach. Most wise guys don't even like. I think I take Seattle in the points here, Sharper Square. Totally sharp. This line makes no sense, Colin. Your read is 100% right. Seattle is the better coach. They have the better offensive line. They have the top rated passing offense in the NFL. They have the most explosive passing offense in the NFL. The car's defense is the second worst in defending explosive pass plays. This line opened at three. It moved in Seattle's direction. You got a short home dog in the

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