The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Joe Burrow on Week 1, Dave Wannstedt on Dolphins + Bears W’s, NFL Week 2 Best Bets
Episode Date: September 17, 2022This is Prime Cuts! The best of The Colin Cowherd Podcast. First, Colin explains why Aaron Rodgers' treatment of rookie wide receivers is so predictable, if the Cowboys are toast with Dak Prescott out... a reported 7 weeks, and if Russell Wilson should shoulder the blame for the Broncos dreadful late game clock management in his Seattle return. Then, Bengals Quarterback Joe Burrow discusses the lingering effects of a physical Week 1 game against the Steelers, if a lack of reps following his appendectomy affected his performance, how he’s able to shake off interceptions so easily, what it’s like facing the elite pass rushers in AFC North on a weekly basis, if he wants to take preseason reps next year, how he processed the Super Bowl loss to the Rams, where he’s improved most from his rookie year, how much influence he had in the Bengals picking his LSU teammate Ja’Marr Chase, why Cincinnati has been the perfect fit, why he’s a cat guy and why he’s embraced his trademark game day swag. Then, former Bears and Dolphins HC and FOX NFL analyst Dave Wannstedt on NFL Week 1, including Justin Fields’ performance in a win over the Niners, if the Patriots unimpressive loss to the Dolphins is the first sign New England is on the downslide, if Aaron Rodgers can get on the same page with his young wide receivers, and if the Cowboys need to sign another QB with Dak out for almost two months. Then the Action Network's Chad Millman tells Colin if his NFL Week 2 picks are "sharp" or "square" for Patriots/Steelers, Bucs/Saints, Commanders/Lions, Jets/Browns, and Bengals/Cowboys. Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #herd #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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the one and only Joe Burrow joined us for the first of his weekly appearances.
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So, you know, there are some things in the NFL that are really hard to predict. I mean, you know, I'm watching Washington.
Washington and Jacksonville yesterday.
It was just a bit of a mess.
I'm watching the Niners and the Bears and the weather and two young quarterbacks.
It's a bit of a mess.
The easiest thing to predict in the NFL to me was Green Bay struggling with Minnesota on the road.
And, you know, this is something that Aaron Rogers tries to give off this air of mystery.
But the truth is he's the most predictable guy in the NFL is that you knew it would be an issue.
Two small school rookie wide receivers opening on the road in Minnesota in the biggest stadium they've ever played in.
You know, they make the mistakes that small school wide receivers would make debuting in the NFL in a division game.
And he ghosted them.
Aaron Rogers did what we said all off season long.
This is what he does.
He goes friends.
He goes teammates.
Christian Watson dropped a pass.
He didn't throw his way again until the fourth quarter.
Go on, dude, you're not going to beat Justin Jefferson in Minnesota, thrown to AJ Dylan.
And then the young receiver from Nevada, Romeo Dubs.
There was a miscommunication early.
It happens.
It's loud.
He played at Nevada in a small stadium, small conference, little miscommunication.
And Aaron Rogers ghost him.
And Matt LaFleur had to use both of them in reverses to get them back into the game because Aaron wouldn't throw to him.
So I know a lot of you love Aaron Rogers, but it was.
so absolutely predictable. Colin, Christian Watson, dropped an easy touchdown. Since 2019,
do you know what quarterbacks have dealt with the most drops from their receivers and
tight ends? Tom Brady won, Josh Allen 2, Patrick Mahomes 3. Aaron Rogers, 13th. He doesn't have
that many drops. So occasionally, rookie wide receivers are a little over their
skis. Okay, if you throw a lot, you get drops in this league. Everybody's quarterback who
struggles, well, we had receivers drop the ball. Brady Allen Mahomes lead the NFL in drops since
2019. Do they go back to those wide receivers? Damn straight they do. You can't be petty and
hold grudges during football games. Guys open, get in the rock. Now, offensive line play,
they had some injuries. They'll make excuses.
Tom Brady's offensive line was a mess. He looked good.
Trebisky's was a mess. He won.
Justin Fields' offensive line has been a mess for two years. He won.
Yeah, Green Bay had some injuries. But Aaron Rogers, once again, he's single. He's never had kids.
You learn something when you have children. You have to understand they make a lot of mistakes.
You don't ghost them. And this has been my thing.
with Aaron, never married, no kids. He didn't have to sacrifice much. He didn't have to show a lot
of patience. He wants to go play golf. He can play golf. He wants to work out. He can work out. He wants to go to a
concert. That's not the way it works when you're surrounded with others in the same house.
Sometimes I feel like in the entertainment industry, musicians, actors, athletes. If they're
really successful and they get rich early in their 20s, they get a little self-indulgent, a little
self-absorbed, and it's hard to deal with the word no or sacrifice.
I mean, it's like Tom Cruise.
Tom Cruise was a rock star, like late 20s, early 30s.
Suddenly, he's an expert on antidepressants.
Suddenly, we have to know about his religion.
It's like, dude, you're a great movie star, be a movie star.
And I find his errands gotten richer and older.
Now I know what he thinks about every opinion in politics.
Now what I know what he thinks about our government.
He's making comments to Bill Maher about the state of California.
It's like, bro, I'm not a shut up and dribble guy.
I'm not a stay in your lane guy.
I'm really not.
You guys talk about whatever you want to talk about.
But I do think with Aaron, when you're successful and rich early, you don't have to sacrifice.
You kind of get what you want all the time.
And I think if you have young receivers, you have to understand.
People can't play to your standard.
Aaron goes, well, what about the standard of Green Bay?
Well, what about it?
You're Aaron Rogers.
You can't expect the 22-year-old rookie wide receiver to play to your standard.
On the road?
First NFL game?
They're not going to play to your standard.
You really think Tom Brady thinks a rookie tight-in is going to play to his standard?
And when I watched him ghost those wide receivers yesterday, I thought that was so absolutely predictable.
Of course, they made mistakes.
They're small college-wide receivers.
They never had played in front of 60,000 people before.
Forget a divisional game against the Vikings.
So Ian Rappaport tweeting that Dac-Prescott is probably back October 30th,
which means seven more games without Dac Prescott.
Well, here's the good news.
Bears, Lions, Washington at home.
Also the New York Giants, that games on the road.
you went three of those four.
If you can, you're three and five with Cooper Rush.
That comes back.
In that division, I think you're fine.
Listen, the NFC right now, go look at the standings.
Google the standings.
Rams offensive lines an issue.
Arizona looks to be a mess, right?
Green Bay scored seven points.
Start looking around.
Tom Brady's offensive line in shambles.
They just lost left tackle Donovan Smith.
San Francisco Trey Lance.
Will they be able to score?
It's not the end of the season.
Can Cooper Rush win you three of the remaining seven games?
Bears, Lions, Giants at home in Washington.
Those are winnable games.
I mean, Cooper Rush is a backup for a reason.
But it doesn't mean that backups can't win in this league.
So again, is the sky falling?
Well, we didn't think the Cowboys were great anyway.
three and five, DAC returns.
I wouldn't leave the building to try to find a solution.
I wouldn't give up draft capital and a player for Jimmy Garoppel.
Cowboys need draft capital.
They need salary cap space.
And by the way, Niners after Trey Lance's opener,
they're not giving up Jimmy Garoppolo either.
How many draft picks would you have to give San Francisco to get Jimmy Garoppolo now?
So the sky isn't falling.
This isn't the Buffalo Bills or Kansas City.
It's not much of a fall.
This was going to be like an eight-win team.
Maybe they're now seven.
But I think your answer's in the building.
Can Cooper Rush play?
Is he good enough to go three and five?
I think he is.
The 11 quarterbacks that did not take a snap in the preseason went three and eight.
Think about that.
Some were Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson.
You know, think about this.
Three and eight.
So we talk about that preseason and we talk about, oh, I don't want to get hurt, but you can work out so many things.
I'll give an example, Russell Wilson.
In that meltdown with four minutes left in Seattle for Russell Wilson, one of the things that's interesting, you can't create a crisis at practice that is anything like playing in Seattle, you're being booed.
There's nothing that duplicates that.
Now, a preseason game isn't that either, but it's a real game.
And situationally, the Seahawks with a first-year head coach and a new coordinator and a new quarterback on the road look flustered.
And why didn't Russell Wilson going to be a pro football Hall of Fame quarterback go timeout, timeout, time out, let's get organized here.
So Richard Sherman also new to the volume podcast says that Russell Wilson doesn't have that power in Denver yet.
Peyton Manning had it in his career. Patrick Mahomes has it now. Tom Brady's had it in his career.
That Russell Wilson at this point may not have that power to just say, time out, I'm taken over.
And it's almost as Russell Wilson was too respectful. Nice guy, first year head coach, rookie head coach.
You know, it reminds me, Malcolm Gladwell wrote a book called Outliers, and he talked about Korean Airlines.
So they had a spate of crashes in the 80s and 90s, Korean Airlines.
And whenever you have an airline crash, it's generally not one catastrophic event.
It is a series of mistakes.
On average, seven mistakes or errors for every plane crash.
And there are very few.
But in the 80s and 90s, Korean Air was having a problem.
And at the root of the problem was because of the culture that the first officer was overly respectful to the captain.
That's the theory that Malcolm Gladwell presents.
and that if the plane was running low on fuel, the first officer wouldn't raise his voice.
If he talked to the tower, he would never call it an emergency.
He was overly respectful to the captain, the hierarchy.
And obviously, that's much more serious than a quarterback in a timeout.
But it does show you sometimes that being overly respectful, there are drawbacks to it.
And it's sometimes being blunt and taking over is really, really important.
in critical situations.
And Russell Wilson, a lot more experienced, is a much better quarterback than Nathaniel Hackett
is a coach.
Why doesn't he just go, timeout?
This is my stadium.
I played here for a decade.
I'm calling time out.
I'm taken over.
But instead, Russell churned, as Richard Sherman said, and respectfully looks to the rookie coach,
hey, I'm part of the team.
Not really.
You're the catalyst for the team.
Remember Tom Brady?
barking at coaches, barking at his offensive lineman, right?
That Bears Thursday night game his first year with the Bucks.
He wasn't deferential to anybody.
He didn't care if he was a new guy in the town.
He told the team, we're going to do practices at Jesuit high school in Tampa.
I don't care if they're illegal.
Get over here, right?
Yelling at offensive linemen.
I don't care if you've been here before me.
I don't even care if you're a pro bowler.
I'm the quarterback of the football team.
I'm 70% of the offense.
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Well, you know him as the number one overall pick, a national title, NFL comeback player of the year,
help the Bengals get to the Super Bowl, overcame an unbelievably difficult injury. He is a
is going to be part of the volume going forward,
we hope for a long time.
I mean, we got Draymond Green,
we got Richard Sherman,
and we got Joe Burrow.
Those were our three targets.
Those are the guys we wanted.
So our recruiting class was sensational at the volume.
Whoever our recruiting coordinator is, kicked ass.
That's all I know.
And Joe Burrow is joining us.
Well, first of all,
I wish you were joining us in better circumstances.
So let's talk about this, though.
Brady said something that was pretty interesting the other day.
He said,
at 45, I feel every hit when I wake up the next day.
Everything.
He said, I have bruises all over my arms.
You probably, you know, young, great shape, athlete, don't.
But in a situation like Sunday, that's probably the best pass rush you will face all year.
That is probably it.
Do you wake up the next day and think, shit, man, I can feel that.
Could you feel it?
Yeah, after a game.
I mean, we paid 104 snaps.
So I was definitely sore the next day.
But, you know, like you said, I'm young.
So today I got my two workouts in after that.
You know, I'm feeling a ton better.
And I bruised like a peach.
So my body, ever since high school, I've bruised like a peach.
People will be horrified if they saw me after games, taking my pads off and my shirt off.
But I feel a lot better than I look.
Let's go back to the appendectomy surgery.
That's a major surgery.
You know, everybody thinks, oh, it's an appendix.
No, you're going inside a body and taking something out.
And again, I've had minor surgeries, and it takes your body weeks to recover from that.
So I looked at you and I thought, well, you didn't get a lot of snaps.
And this is the best pass rush he's facing.
Plus, Mike Tomlin's teams, whenever their underdogs in division, they play with their hair on fire.
Like, it was like, everybody was saying, oh, good God, the Steelers will play.
their defensive game of the year.
Did you feel on a couple of the throws,
man, I could have used like 12 more practices.
I could have used more reps.
Maybe.
You never want to make excuses for a performance.
Obviously, not my best in the first half.
I thought I responded well in the fourth quarter
and put us in a position to win the game.
But obviously, you'd like to have a lot of those throws and decisions back in that
first half going into the beginning of that third quarter.
So you don't make excuses about whether you had a lot of.
training camp or not, you know, we went into my rookie year without any offseason and, you know,
no excuses there either. So no excuses from the surgery from camp. But I like how we respond
in the fourth quarter. You have a quality that it reminds me so much of Andrew Luck. I was a
huge Andrew Luck fan. And I saw Andrew do this at college at Stanford. He was playing USC in the
Coliseum and I was there late in the game. He'd played beautifully.
and he had a really bad pick six.
And it was, you know, it was just kind of a simple out.
He didn't read the corner at all.
And he throws a pick six at the Coliseum.
He comes over to David Sean.
He puts his hands on his helmet.
And he's, I can see him where I'm sitting.
And he's grinning.
Like, oh, I'm an idiot.
He came back with an absolutely dart after dart after dart.
And this is hard.
This game gets into your head.
I mean, you got T.J.
Watt coming after you. It's your rival. You throw a pick. You and luck tend to be short memory guys.
So my takeaway is, you know, dad's a coach. Does it come from dad? Did you transition into that?
In high school, did interceptions bother you? Like, where does that come from? Because I don't think a lot of
these young quarterbacks haven't. Yeah, I kind of, I have my own way of dealing with it. I let it consume me
for about 30 seconds.
And I'm mad at the world.
I'm mad at myself.
I'm mad at everything that's going on.
I'm about as frustrated as you can get.
And then after that's up, I can kind of just flip a switch and forget about it and move
on to the next play.
Look at the pictures on the sideline.
See why it happened.
What my thought process was and then put it behind me.
Are most interceptions overly aggressive, misread, timing?
If I had to categorize them and there's four boxes, if you know, four boxes, if you
look at your career, where do most of them come from?
Mine have been mostly overaggressiveness, thinking I could maybe fit a ball in here where
I probably shouldn't have tried. The amount of missed red coverages that I've had are a few
and far between. I had one of those on Sunday, but for the most part, it's overaggressiveness.
And then you also have to give the defense credit. I mean, I had one on Sunday that
T.J. Watch has jumped in the air and grabbed it on a, on a,
six-yard throw that, you know, not every defensive player can make that kind of play.
So you got to give credit to the defense when you have those situations and then, you know, learn from them on your end.
You watch the film on Monday so you can get better, see what you did well and go from there.
You probably, to me, you have the two best pass rushers in football are Miles Garrett and T.J. Watt,
and you face them four times totally year.
When you line up kind of the same game, are there things, do you see them as totally different
athletes, obviously they're coming on that same side rush end.
I mean, do you just see them as great players?
Or do they have habits?
Do they have tells?
They're great players.
Really, I mean, our division, the past rushes in our division are the best in football.
AFC West, top to bottom can probably rival at rival.
I mean, T.J. Watt, Miles Garrett, Cam Hayward at three technique.
You got Jadavian Clowny.
You got Justin Houston with the Ravens.
You got the O-A kid for the Ravens.
And you got Trey Hendrickson, Sam Hubbard on our team.
I mean, they're really unbelievable pass rushers.
And so we've got good plans for them when we play them.
But they're going to get sacks.
That's what they do.
That's what they get paid a lot, a lot of money to do.
So they're going to get theirs.
He's got to try to limit it and protect the ball.
So 11 quarterbacks didn't take a snap in preseason.
You, it was because of surgery.
Some guys just didn't want to do it.
I get it.
The more we pay quarterbacks, you know, maybe the more protective they are.
Like, I totally get it.
But the quarterbacks that didn't take snaps, and there were many great ones, went three and eight, right?
And, you know, some guys, quarterbacks have told me through the years.
They like to get popped.
You know, they like to get hit.
So this year, Mahomes, by the way, does play and was great on Sunday.
next year, given a choice, would you want to play some in the preseason?
Yeah, I would have liked to play some this year.
That was my plan going in.
We hadn't discussed that with our coaching staff at camp because, you know,
I had the surgery the day before camp started.
And so we just didn't have the opportunity.
But that was going to be a request of mine.
I'd like to play at least a series.
Just get the feeling alive bullets, get out there with the guys, feel the communication,
and a game setting.
And I think that's pretty underrated.
So next year, I would like to, but we'll see.
Listen, you led the Super Bowl with two minutes left.
You're not only a franchise quarterback.
You're able to do what very few in my sports casting career can do.
Go to an organization that's struggling.
Young coach, O-line struggling.
You know, again, it's Andrew Luck and you turn it around.
So, listen, losing sucks.
And you haven't lost a lot.
And so it was a go-either-way game you lose.
Where do you go emotionally after that?
Because the history of the league is Super Bowl loser is never good the next year.
And I said on the air, I said, it feels different for Cincinnati.
Like, I think they're going to be really good.
I don't know what Cleveland's doing at quarterback.
I'm not sure if Pittsburgh's got the quarterback button down.
I'm like, I don't know.
I feel like they address the interior line.
They have a pass rush, receivers, quarterback.
Like, I don't see the weakness.
But did you just say I'm getting out of football for two weeks?
Like I have to just go hide.
Yeah.
I mean, that was about, you know, I still got my workouts in.
I still, that's what I enjoy doing.
That's how I relax.
I get some workouts in.
So got to the weight room, did that.
But, you know, watched the film the day after of the Super Bowl and then put it behind me.
Didn't talk about it.
Didn't think about it.
tried to move on to this year.
And I mean, we got 16 games left.
Bad, bad start, but we were one-on-one last year.
We got a chance to be one-on-one this year going into Dallas.
Big game on the road.
If we come out with that, we're going to be feeling a lot better.
Joe Burrow today and Joe Burrow first start in the NFL.
So I want you to go back if you can.
Where are you significantly better to?
today than you were all those starts ago?
At the line of scrimmage, I really understand, you know,
the plays that aren't going to work versus a certain look.
And, you know, I have enough reps under my belt that I know what play to get to
against that same look.
Just because year three in the system, I've seen a lot of more football than I had,
you know, that first year.
And same coaches basically since my rookie season.
I think that's, I mean, that's so underrated across the league.
You see a lot of these young guys with a different offensive coordinator each year.
And you're in a new offense, new language, new way of talking about every play each year.
And I don't, I'm not sure that's a recipe for success.
And so, you know, the way that the front office has surrounded me with really good, smart people that understand the game, that play hard.
and then the coaches that give us a great game plan each week.
I mean, I really couldn't have asked for a better situation to come into the league to.
You know, you, one of the things that you did early in your career is you, you know, you told the front office, we should get Jamar Chase.
And people said, geez, Joe, your offensive line.
And you're like, no, no, this guy is completely different, which Jamar Chase is one of the, you get about one a year in college football where you're watching a player in college and you're like, oh, that's a pro.
football player just playing on Saturdays.
Like, he's way better.
So not all the quarterbacks would be comfortable with that, knowing that you needed, like, protection.
I mean, it's part of the rebuild on that offensive front.
Did you make a decision one day to just say, I'm just going to go and tell our front office guys, you're making a, how did you preface it?
How do you go about as a young quarterback going to a general manager or going to an executive in saying that?
So I didn't go up there and do it.
I think what made me feel great was they came to me and asked me.
I think, you know, as a quarterback, as somebody that has felt like they've earned respect
in the league when all we want to feel is to feel included in decisions, whether we are
or we aren't.
You know, they just kept me in the loop.
They asked me my opinion on Jamar and I said, I mean, he's a home run.
He just makes the game look easy.
Right.
There's not a lot of people like him.
Right.
I mean, the way he catches the ball, runs routes, makes people miss when he gets the ball, shrugs the defenders off.
I mean, he's really just incredible.
He played 95 snaps on Sunday.
I mean, that's not normal.
And our Z receiver goes down.
He gets a concussion in the first quarter.
And so we're moving Jamar from X to Z to the slot.
And he's playing 95 snaps.
I mean, he's a really smart, cerebral football player that just goes hard.
Did you know instantly first LSU practice he was this?
So he was the first person that I threw with when I got to LSU.
I didn't know anybody that I go in on Saturday and Jemar's the first person in there with me.
I'd be lying if I said I knew that he was going to become exactly what he is now,
but we kind of grew up as football players together, understood.
I mean, he didn't play a lot his freshman year, but, you know, I saw the talent and he caught my first touchdown pass at LSU.
And like I said, we just grew up as football players together at the college level and then the same thing at the NFL level.
And so we have this rare connection and unspoken understanding of routes.
And when we get to the line of scrimmage, it could just be a look that, you know, he knows what I'm
I want. I know what he wants. And I think that's rare. So I have this kind of weird theory that
quarterbacks have become American royalty. So when I was a kid in the 70s, the biggest stars in
sports were like short stops, like the Yankee shortstop or a Dodger shortstop or an NBA star.
Internationally, the biggest stars are like tennis stars or a soccer star. But football now is
taken over our world. Quarterbacks are now being paid for social stuff, for shoe stuff.
You are the biggest stars in America. And it's probably just a coincidence. But over the last 10 to 12 to 15
years, I think there's an advantage to playing in Buffalo, New Orleans, Green Bay, Cincinnati,
Indianapolis, Kansas City. They're not large media markets. You can literally hide because you guys are
literally, you know, you are superstars.
And it's like a big part of the NFL star quarterback group.
It's right in the middle of the country.
New York's quarterbacks, not as pronounced.
You know, Russell Wilson left Seattle.
And you talked about a perfect situation.
I'm like, Cincinnati's perfect.
You get a yard.
You can have dogs.
You're not close to your parents.
It's not a big media market.
And I feel like there's an advantage to Joe Burrow,
who's the Joe Namath of this generation,
kind of cool national title,
you can pretty much hide in Cincinnati, can't you?
Well, I think I'm uniquely positioned
to have success in Cincinnati
because I'm from Ohio.
I understand the people of Ohio,
so I have this connection to the fan base
that I don't think a lot of other quarterbacks
across the league have.
I understand them.
They understand me.
It's just something about growing up in the same area of the country that unites people from that area.
And everybody feels it where they're from.
When they get back to their hometown, it feels different than, you know, when they go to New York or L.A., just I understand these people.
And they understand me.
And I think that has kind of drawn them to me and drawn me to them.
And it's really been a perfect match.
Well, I was going to say, you had to transfer.
People in Ohio feel overlooked flyover country.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah, exactly.
It's nothing easy in Ohio.
You grow up tough.
Adversity, you've got to push through it.
And people that come out on top are great people.
I stay here in the offseason just because I'm an Ohio guy.
I love the people, love the place.
It's been great.
You have to have dogs, don't you?
No, I'm actually, I'm more of a cat guy.
Wow.
Yeah.
What a revelation.
But cats are curious.
Also, you're busy.
So like dogs are work.
Yeah.
Right?
Exactly.
So I had cats or I had one cat growing up.
And I had a lizard.
I had turtles.
But no dogs.
Never was allowed to have a dog.
Wow.
Well, let me tell you that.
They're great, but they're work.
I have to clean stuff up in the yard every single day.
It's not pretty sure.
It's like a child.
It's like a child.
It's a child that poops in the yard.
Yeah.
That's exactly what it is.
And I have two of them.
And they're amazing.
So I, when you put the jacket on, and I cut a promo where I put your glasses and your jacket on, but I do believe that it's like a fight.
Mike Tyson, remember when Mike Tyson was in his prime and he would only wear black shorts?
and a hoodie that was ripped off.
And so I believe that was all part of him saying,
I'm fighting to death.
I don't want any glitz.
I don't want anything.
This is, I want to be as Spartan,
as minimalistic as I can be.
I don't want any fru-frue,
through stuff.
And I really thought that was part of his mindset.
Like Mike was just,
I want to look like I'm going to spar.
And when I watch you come into games,
I think, oh, that's a mindset.
Joe's cool.
Joe's confident.
Joe's the man.
Now, that's probably a reach by me.
But I think the fans, but I, Joe, before I do every show, I go hide for 10 to 12 minutes.
And I just get it in my head.
I'm performing.
It's my opening rant.
I'm performing.
Jerry Seinfeld does that.
Seinfeld to sign autographs 15 minutes before the show, Jerry is like, I got to go hide.
I've got to get into, you're performing.
So when I watch you in your outfits, my takeaway is, oh, no, he's getting into a space.
This game, he wakes up.
It's game day.
Am I wrong on that?
You're not far off.
You know, I always felt like you look good, you feel good, you play good.
And whether that was my uniform or what I wore to the game, it used to be suits every single game, try to look sharp.
And then, you know, I kind of evolved as a person and have found things that I like that I enjoy wearing.
And got all of, I would, some of the stuff I would never wear out to dinner.
but like you said, game day is different.
It's a mindset.
You're going in there to, I mean, it's not a fight,
but you're going to go in there and go to war
with guys that get paid just like you too
and work just as hard as you do throughout the week
to try to take something from you
and you got to go take it from them.
He's the former dolphin and bearhead coach.
They both posted W's this weekend.
How about that?
Dave Wonstadt's joining.
Let's start. Let's start in Chicago. So, you know, I said this. It's not a great offensive line.
They have one receiver I like to defensive head coach and the Niners had to me much better personnel.
It wasn't spectacular. But I thought he played a pretty smart fourth quarter. He didn't make a lot of big mistakes.
My takeaway was on kind of a, if I thought I would grade him based on what he had, how he played late.
I thought Justin Fields was okay.
I thought it was okay.
How did you view it?
I felt the same way.
He did a couple of things in that game that he would have never done a year ago.
So that tells me that he is maturing mentally and he showed something on the first
touchdown play when he got flushed out of the pocket.
And he rode out and the Bears and Justin Fields talked about this,
this summer, that he had never worked on a scramble drill before. In other words, when the
quarterback scrambles like it was to the left, the receivers on that side work back to the ball.
They give him specific specific things what to do on a scramble. And the receivers away,
kind of drift the way to get away from all the defenders. Well, a year ago, there's not a doubt in
my mind, he would have tucked the ball and ran. Right. What does he do? He looks, oh,
over the fact and he knew that his safety valve was really the fourth guy, Dante Pettis,
who he threw the touchdown to, who was on the far side of the field.
Number one, there are a lot of guys that have that type of arm strength, the throw it that far.
The ball was wet.
You saw the condition that it was pouring down rain.
So he made a great physical throw.
And also, he made a great decision.
I really love what these guys are doing.
Luke Getsey and this offensive staff, I mean, they are really playing.
into his strength. I mean, they ran the ball. They made 37 attempts to run it and only through
like 18 passing attempts. And it's all by giving their defense a chance and given Justin Fields
a chance to do what he did. And you mentioned the second half call. And I think this is worth mentioning.
You know, in the second half, they came out and did some quarterback runs. They ran a legitimate
quarterback option. And he kept the ball and then they got him on the edge a few times. You know,
So that's all good stuff.
He has to do that stuff to be as good as he can possibly be at this stage of his game.
They didn't run a screenplay last year.
I added up, I was doing the game.
I think they threw three screenplays in the first quarter, you know, attempted screenplay.
I mean, and I remember when I was at the Bears, the screen kings of the NFL were the Green Bay Packers with Mike Holmgren and Brent Farm.
And Mike and I would talk in the offseason.
And I said, Mike, you just got fullback screens and tight end screens and tailback screens.
He says, day, we are not that good at running the football.
We look at a screen as a running play.
So, you know, and I tried telling the Bears fans this last night on a TV show, I said, guys, if we make four or five yards on a screen, that's a successful play.
Everybody wants a screen to go for 50 yards.
Well, if you make four yards and it's second down in five, second down in four, and you ran the ball, you'd be happy.
That's a successful play.
So I really like what the Bears are doing to try to give Justin Fields a chance to be successful.
You know, the other thing that's important that you mentioned that they played to restraints,
you go back and you look at quarterbacks.
Kyler Murray jumps out to me, Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson.
Every year, they tend to run a little less.
But their athletic ability buys them about 20 starts in this league.
as they're figuring out the line of scrimmage,
all these young quarterback,
Steve Young,
remember how much he ran early?
And then as Steve got older,
he ran less,
is that I talked to a coach years ago about this.
He said,
listen, for a lot of these guys,
you know,
they start one or two years of college.
Their legs give them a year and a half to two years
to pick up yards.
Russell Wilson said it.
Year three, the light went on.
Mahom said it in year two.
He goes, oh, I can finally read a defense.
So my thing is,
I don't look in the first couple years of a quarterback.
I don't look negatively at running.
Like, whatever you have to do to figure out yards.
Now, Big Ben to me didn't graduate out of that for a while.
Like, he took too many shots from like year four to year 10.
Right.
But I do think if I watched him yesterday, I'm like, there are guys that run out of necessity.
And then there are guys that run to pick up yards.
Do you see how many times Justin Fields?
I saw at least twice that he slides.
He just went, he's a big athlete, Dave.
He slid, got down.
And to your point, a lot of these great athletes at all these positions,
sometimes great athletes are harder to coach because athletic ability,
it doesn't matter what position they play.
I'm with you.
I thought it looked like, I watched him last year,
and I thought he looked a little out of control.
I never felt that Sunday.
No.
And at his press conference, he talked about that second touchdown, he threw.
The second touchdown he through, we ran that play at Dallas, and we would send Darrell Johnson into the flat,
and we would use our tight end, Jay Novichick, as the guy to get behind him.
So all it really is for, you know, is a two-level pass route.
You know, you got one guy short and one guy deep.
It doesn't matter who they are.
Well, the bears did that, and they sent their tight end kind of into the flat, and they sent the wide receiver on the deep route,
a two-level pass.
And he said both guys were open.
Why not throw the touchdown?
So he made another good decision and understood the concept of the play.
And, you know, in the other side of that coin now, you know, Matt Eberflust, the head coach,
they, people are going to mock copy.
It's a copycat league.
What he did defensively was outstanding.
They run for Don lineman.
If you look at Indy, they were the fifth least pressure.
team a year ago. They aren't going to blitz. So when you play a Mike Shanahan team and you're
getting motions and you're getting Samuels on reverses and option plays and everything you can
imagine, the soundest defense is to line up and not play a lot of man, not run with guys, just play
vanilla. Don't blitz and get caught inside. And that's what the bears did. I mean, the bears played
a very vanilla defense, a few pressures, uh, the big interception that they got.
They did trick them.
They lined up in a four-man rush, and they dropped the nose guard to make it a three-man
rush and drop Eddie Jackson the safety in the middle of the field.
So they had like a double robber defense.
And Eddie Jackson just read the eyes.
He said it in the press conference.
All I did was study Trey Lance's eyes, and right where he looked is where I broke and he
intercepted the ball.
So they did some great things.
Hey, 12 or 13 penalties, the three by the Bears.
Okay.
Two sacks on each team, tackles for losses were about the same.
But the Bears beat them in the turnover margin.
The Bears beat the 49ers and turn them margin by one,
and they beat them by penalties by, you know, 12, they're 13 to 3.
So, you know, they're playing smart football right now.
They're not, you're going to have to beat them.
They're not going to beat themselves, growing.
I want to go to Miami.
So Josh Allen and Tua, post Tom Brady.
are eight and one against the Patriots.
And, you know, Dave, as you well know, the NFL, since you entered the league, left it and now broadcasting.
It's not like baseball.
They're constantly changing rules.
And a lot of the stuff you could do defensively, even seven, eight years ago, you're not allowed to do anymore.
The other thing we're finding out is receivers just have more value than they've ever had.
The schemes are better.
There's just some of these young offensive coaches, Dave, they're just, they're really bright guys.
and they really, they use their backs in the back field,
their receivers in the back.
I mean, San Francisco, now the Miami coach,
Mike McDaniel, he just brought the Niners offense to Miami.
And listen, I think, I've always said,
I think Tua reminds me of a left-handed Mac Jones.
Can't do a ton off script.
But when I watch the Patriots,
and this is where I think Belichick,
not saying the games passed him by,
but he's not pivoting quickly enough.
Dave, when I watched them yesterday,
they are slow on the perimeter.
They don't scare.
Like if you were a defensive coordinator,
you would not watch their film and say,
oh, Jesus, we got a bracket this guy.
If this guy goes in motion,
I didn't, I mean,
I think Miami kind of played him straight up
and said, we think our people can guard your people.
I don't see the speed with New England.
What did you see?
Yeah, you know, you bring up a good point.
I mean, I think they look faster.
They do have speed, you know, the Miami Dolphins.
there's no question.
I mean, you know, Tyrick Hill, you know, Waddle,
they've got some of the greatest athletes in this league from a skill standpoint.
But I think what they do with those guys even makes it, you know,
the perception is that they're faster because they're doing a lot more motions.
And we didn't see all that stuff when we were coaching, you know,
and they're doing a lot more motions in every one of their running place.
And this is Mike Shanahan to a T.
every running play that he runs, he has a pass play off the same action.
So it's real hard and it makes you look slow.
You're playing the run and all of a sudden it's a play action pass
and you're half a step late reacting.
So do they have fast players, Miami?
Yes, they've been a lot of draft picks.
Let's be honest over the last couple years, they've done a good job.
But they also use those guys with a lot of motions and a lot of fakes
and deception plays, I call them, that,
that can make the defense look slow.
So, you know, but at the end of the day, at the end of the day,
and I'm agreeing with what you're saying,
I like the, I like the dolphins this year,
but it still came down to three turnovers and two,
it did not turn the ball over once.
You know what I mean?
So all these young quarterbacks and these teams that lost,
we can beat this thing to death with systems and philosophies.
But the dolphins, you know, they're loose.
everybody's having a good time down here.
We've got a new coach.
He's a player's coach.
But they also play disciplined football.
You have to give them credit for that.
Yeah, Chicago's rookie coach and Miami's rookie coach don't have what we would consider elite
quarterbacks and they both picked up wins.
And I think a lot of in both cases, not a lot of turnovers.
Yep.
Quarterbacks played within themselves.
They played real defense.
They made good plays up the sideline defensively with their corners.
You know, I had Sean Payton on yesterday on Fox.
And one of the things he said, he was disappointed in Aaron Rogers.
And he said, listen, man, when you bring rookie receivers in, these guys, you know, you're opening game in the NFL.
These two rookie receivers for Green Bay, one played at an FCS program.
The other played at Nevada.
Right.
So that game in Minnesota, Dave, that's not only the best.
biggest crowd they've ever played in.
It's a division game in the NFL.
You know those. Those are wars.
Right.
So Christian Watson drops a pass.
Romeo dubs communication.
And Sean Payton said, you've got to go right back to these guys.
You can't not throw to Christian Watson and crush his confidence.
And I said this earlier before I thought you one.
I said, when you have kids, Aaron doesn't have any kids.
I said, but when you have kids, you learn patience.
They make a lot of mistakes.
You hope they don't make the same ones over and over.
But because Sean Payton really pointed it out.
It's like, listen, man, you bring rookie receivers in.
You can't expect them to go on the road in their first NFL game and light it up.
You have to bake in mistakes.
And I want you to go to your career.
Sometimes you were forced to play young players.
Sometimes they're small college guys.
Did you understand kind of innately?
This shit could get a little rough.
This is not going to be pretty.
Yeah, two thoughts on that. One, I mean, can you, I thought about this yesterday.
Aaron Rogers didn't play in the preseason, right? So we know that. Okay. So these rookies had maybe not caught a pass with him. And they're in there getting their mouthpieces before the game, right, and getting their little call sheet. And they look up and boy, Aaron Rogers, he's putting the eye black on. And can you that's what those guys are thinking? Wow. This is for, for.
real. I'm actually going to, Alan Rogers is actually going to throw me a pass today, you know,
I mean, on TV. No, it's a lot. But I said this about the Packers, and I've looked at this thing
pretty close. You know, they used two first-round draft picks on defensive players, two great players
from Georgia. And they had a top 10 defense a year ago. They have to win. And I said this,
and I really believe this, and it's going to happen this week. They play the Bears Sunday night.
in Lambo. And this is how they're going to have to win. They have to play lights out on defense.
And Dylan and Aaron Jones, they're two veteran running backs, they need to be a huge part of their
offensive attack, whether they're thrown or to them or whether they're running the ball.
But this needs to be pulled in a little bit. Let's play a little more conservative when we have
to. And we got to play great defense. And our special team,
should be good.
You know, we hired a brand,
you know,
one of the top special teams
coaches in the NFL.
So this is how we got
a win right now
until these young receivers
catch up and we get
Alan Lassar back and so forth.
But Green Bay had their top
three receivers not on the field
from a year ago.
Two of them left, obviously.
And then Lassar,
he was hurt.
So that's a lot for any team.
So I put it on the defense.
I'm going to call the defense out tomorrow and say, because they didn't beat us on plays.
You know, I've always looking at it this way.
If it's two guys going up for the ball, then we're doing a good job of coaching.
And I got to get, I used to tell my coaches this, then I got to go get you better players.
If their guy outjumps my guy, our guy, then it's my job to go get better players.
So we don't get out jump.
But if guys are wide open, wide open and passes like Minnesota was,
It's your problem now, okay?
Because we got problems schematically.
And I was really disappointed in green base defense.
I mean, because they had some easy scores, I thought.
Yeah, you know, Kirk Cousins and Aaron, and you saw it yesterday,
the veteran quarterbacks in this league, you know,
Aaron will throw out to the right side to his tight ends and his backs.
Those are layups for him.
He gets about six of those a game.
Kirk Cousins similarly.
He'll do that with Thielner, Justin Jefferson, those little eight-yard outs.
Young quarterbacks don't have the experience to get all those layups.
But like what I found yesterday fascinating is that not only did Aaron and Kurt get their layups, but Jesus, Justin Jefferson was really wide open.
Crazy.
Multiple times.
Multiple times.
Multiple times for touchdowns.
Not for first time.
For touchdowns.
And that's, I mean, you know, I just told you how I look at that stuff.
Hey, you know, if those guys are open, what are we doing?
I mean, scheme that.
No, no, don't tell me the player made a mistake because then we got too much in, you know?
Simplify it.
Simplify.
If we're making mistakes because the players are confused, that's on me.
There's a lot of double-digit favorites this week.
As you well know, always try to stay away from them.
The numbers tell you take the Packers.
I deep down think the Broncos, if not for two one-yard fumbles, would have won that game convincingly.
But I'm going to stay away for now.
I'm going to take the Lions at home minus two and a half over the commanders.
I don't love either team.
Wentz is mistake prone in his career more so on the road.
I thought they were a little lucky at home to beat the Jags, who instead of field goals, went for it, had a drop by Travis
ATN that would have been a touchdown.
I thought they got a little bit of breaks.
I thought Doug Peterson took some unnecessary road risks.
I would have taken field goals.
I thought the Jags, when that game was over, were the better team.
And I think Detroit's better than the Jags.
And now it's in Detroit minus two and a half.
I'm taking the Lions, sharp or square?
Totally sharp.
First time, the first time that the Detroit Lions are favorites in 24 games.
That is a record in the Super Bowl.
That is how long it's been.
I loved the Lions last week against the Eagles.
And I started to get nervous about it because sometimes when there is a team getting so much sentiment as a public, as an underdog, you start to get nervous that it's the wrong side.
And then the Lions did exactly what we thought they would do.
They backed door covered.
They stayed in the game.
They didn't stop no matter how out of it they were.
That's who they are, right?
They are a team that they do not stop.
Washington gave up six yards per carry against Jacksonville.
Detroit has a significantly better running game, and it wants to run more than the Jags do.
I agree with you about Doug Peterson.
I thought he put the Jags in a couple of weird spots when they really had a chance to win that game.
This is a huge letdown spot from Carson Wentz.
And like the Lions, if they are healthy, which there have been some questions.
marks in the offensive line, but I think the expectation is everybody will play. They have one of
the best offensive lines. So they're going to be able to compete at the line of scrimmage,
which is where you need if you want to win close games in the NFL. Okay, I like points always,
but I'm going to give you a favorite I like. I don't like to be called a square. I think I
probably am. Cleveland minus six and a half at home to the Jets. I think the Jets right now are a bad
team. Now, Jacoby Brissette is what he is. They're at home, home opener. The rosters are not close.
And the Jets have a major left tackle issue. And I believe Watt and Miles Garrett are easily the best two pass rushers.
So I get immobile Joe Flacko, left tackle issue, not a very good roster, a developing roster.
I'm going to swallow the six and a half in Cleveland at home, Sharper Square. I mean, dude.
We've been talking about this for more than 10 years at this point.
I can't believe you would take the Browns in this spot.
I feel like you're doing it just to bait me.
This is exactly when you take the Jets.
We talked about this last week with the Seahawks.
I begged you to take the Seahawks as six and a half point dogs against the Broncos.
It is the same exact scenario.
You are getting so much inflation in this line.
Everyone is so excited.
The Browns went on the road.
Jacoby Brissette, they beat Baker.
Meanwhile, the Jets are getting throttled with Joe Flacco.
No team is ever as good as they look.
No team is ever as bad as they look.
Like I said, week two, all about overreaction.
A couple stats for you.
Week two underdogs that didn't cover week one by seven or more points.
The last 20 years, 60% against the spread.
week two dogs who just didn't cover in week one, 64% against the spread since 2005,
week two dogs of six or less of a straight up loss.
And the jets started at six, 67% against the spread.
So you got to hold your nose.
You got to bet it.
Like, I know you don't even want to watch the game, so you're not going to bet it,
but the jets are the side here.
And by the way, if the Jets lose, that's fine.
You make these plays over the long term and you end up being a 60% winner and that's what you're trying to be.
All right.
Another favorite that I think is kind of tasty.
And I know, again, I know I'm a square.
Of all the big favorites, Bengals, minus eight and a half against the Cowboys.
Now, it's not, I'm not sure I'm going to bet this, but I think Dallas.
is a bad football team, a bad team.
Now with a backup quarterback.
I think Cincinnati's a good team that played the best underdog coach in the world with the best pass rush outside of Buffalo in the world.
And I think the Bengals, because as Joe Burrow told me on my podcast, he didn't get to practice much.
Appendectomy surgery, they take something out of your body.
It is a major surgery.
The timing was terrible against the great defense.
This is a average defense.
I think Cincinnati buries them.
It's my blowout of the week.
Well, I feel like there are other games that should be your blowout of the week because this is a really tricky spot.
Eight and a half points on the road against a team that is desperate.
You always got to think about the emotional elements of the game, right?
And the first game with a backup quarterback for a team that knows its season is on the line is always when they are playing their best.
You get that team as a massive underdog at home, and that's when you play the home underdog.
The same stats I just gave you for the Jets, all applicable for the Cowboys.
They lost by double digits.
They are huge home underdogs.
It doesn't matter if DAC is playing or not.
But also think about this, and I'll ask you these questions.
I need you to answer them.
Do you think Dak Prescott is a good quarterback?
I think he's a B quarterback.
So you don't think he's a top 10 quarterback.
No, no.
All right.
So if DAC is playing, maybe the Bengals are, say, a point and a half favorites.
Maybe they're, maybe it's push.
Do you really think DAC is worth eight and a half points against the spread?
Is he worth seven and a half points against the spread?
No.
Those are the guys who are the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
That's not Dak.
So the inflation on this line is so big that the wise guys are going to take the cowboys.
This line has come down if only because they know the number became too big because the public perception is the cowboys can't win without that.
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