The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Lakers vs Nuggets, NBA MVP Race, First Round Playoff Picks, Suns A Disappointment

Episode Date: April 20, 2024

Colin’s top takes of the week! He reacts to the Lakers play-in win over the Pelicans and previews their series against the defending champion Denver Nuggets (3:00) He’s joined by Jason Timpf, host... of “Hoops Tonight” to debate whether Luka Doncic or Nikola Jokic should win the MVP award (7:30). Colin explains why the Phoenix Suns were his most disappointing team this season (17:00), they make their projects for the Knicks’ postseason (23:00) and make their picks for the first round of the NBA playoffs (27:45)! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates! #Volume #Herd See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:50 bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See dkng.com slash promos for deposit wagering and eligibility restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. LeBron James has won nine straight do-or-die games, either a playing game or a game seven. If you count the in-season tournament, it's like he's won 12 straight or 13 straight. I said very early in the season, because of the Lakers age and their primary playmakers, LeBron, who's very old, that if it was the NCAA tournament, I think the Lakers would get to the championship game and then lose to Denver or a Boston. But in a one game setting, this is why the NBA seven game first round series is ridiculous. It punishes aging legends, which are always the ratings drivers for the NBA.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I mean, the reason Caitlin Clark, one of the reasons she got numbers, this was a rematch. She went into the tournament. We knew the story. they lost last year. Here they come back. They face South Carolina. You mean, 90% of Hollywood money is remakes, right? So it's these aging stars, these Stephs and these LeBron's, Kevin Durantz, they drive the ratings in the NBA. So why punish them with seven-game first round series with no urgency? So the Lakers in the in season tournament won in their playing games with LeBron. They're three and o in playing games with LeBron, and they've won again nine straight do-or-die games with LeBron,
Starting point is 00:04:25 and the Lakers did what they do. They got to the free-throw line a lot, and they hit their free throws. By the way, Sacramento hit their free throws, Lakers hit their free throws. And you're watching in these games, these playoff games, as the NBA pretty clearly tweaked, and I don't mind them doing this at all. During the regular season, the NBA said, hey, let's let them play, let's speed the pace of playup, fewer whistles. that is a huge benefit to veteran teams.
Starting point is 00:04:50 That does not benefit OKC. That will not benefit young teams. That will benefit the older teams. Miami in the east will probably benefit from that. Boston's been around will benefit. The Lakers will benefit. OKC won't. So the Lakers, I think the Lakers match up pretty well with the Nuggets in terms of size.
Starting point is 00:05:12 The difference is the fourth best player on any given night for the Denver Nuggets is Michael Porter, who is a high school prodigy, who can absolutely knock down 28 points on any given night. Now he has championship experience. And I think that's a real thing. I think once you win the championship, every time I watch Denver in a big TV game, and it was close, they just found ways to win. And that's, I saw about a week ago, they played the T-Wolves, close game, just found a way to win. So it's that confidence of a championship team. I think they have the best starting five along with Boston and the NBA.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And there are players on the Lakers that can disappear at times. I think Rui's talented. He can disappear. Anthony Davis can be hot and cold offensively. LeBron, depending on if his three-point shot is effective. D. Lowe, as a playoff performer, has been at times awful last year, at times semi-effective. I kind of know what I'm getting with Denver. With the Lakers, it's a lot of finger crossing with DeAngelo Russell.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And Anthony Davis, two out of three playoff games will give you a really nice offensive effort, but he can manage at times too. So I just, I don't see the Lakers beating Denver four times. I think they'll beat him in a game. Maybe they beat him twice. They can physically match up. But, you know, Yokic does not have a lot of off nights. And Jamal Murray doesn't have a lot of off nights.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And Gordon brings that defense virtually every game. Michael Porter can be a bit hot and cold, but, you know, Denver's a champion for a reason. And my guess is they'll probably beat the Lakers in five, perhaps six, but you'll feel late in these games. That's where you'll see the difference, where Yokic is younger than LeBron. And Jamal Murray offensively is more consistent than Anthony Davis. And A.D. gives Yokich about as much trouble as you can possibly give him, and he still gets 30 points. So I just feel the consistency, the championship experience. Denver is going to be an even tougher out this year.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And I imagine they extinguish the Lakers in about five or six. The games will be close. The Lakers do match up with them. All right, switching it up for the next couple of weeks from John Middilkoff to Hoops tonight, lead guy, Jason Timph, who has, we're so proud of Jason because no he does kick ass and work his butt off. but when we landed him, we thought he was really good, and we couldn't believe he didn't have a larger audience. Soon enough, he's got a larger audience, and he does a great job, has grown a wicked mustache since he's been at the volume as well, a confidence mustache.
Starting point is 00:07:57 One of the, I pushed back a lot on this, and I've come around, if I had an MVP vote, Jalen Brunson gets consideration, Yokic could be the favorite. But I was thinking about this watching him this past week, because I really started zoning in to all the time. teams on Luca. So statistically, insane, could be your MVP. Arguably, of all the 50-plus win teams, he has the weakest roster. He solved, at least for the time being, the Kyrie issue, and the Mavericks are the hottest team in the league at the most significant time of the league, right? We know the playoffs mean more, but the last 15 games of the regular season, you really,
Starting point is 00:08:39 you can feel who's playing uphill and who's playing downhill. If I had an MVP vote, I think I would think long and hard about Luca. Let's start with that. To you, who's the regular season MVP? Well, to your point about getting hot at the right time of the year, almost everybody I talk to that I trust about basketball, when you talk to them about their top contenders, everyone's got Boston, or Denver, Boston, won two. And then the consensus is Dallas at three.
Starting point is 00:09:06 That's the type of foothold they've gained around the league now. They're respected as a team that is considered a legitimate. legitimate chance to win the title. And you're right. I think they do have the most limited supporting cast of the group of teams that we kind of consider seriously at the top of the league. Now, the thing, MVP's tricky because typically there's a large gap in the standings between Dallas and Denver. It's like six games, if I remember correctly. Typically, when you see a team that's not in that like super high end record area of the league, like 55 plus wins, typically it's because there's not a traditional MVP candidate there for
Starting point is 00:09:41 some reason. Like it's a Jason Tatum that's leading one team or it's a, you know, like there's usually a limitation there. And so then you look below that and you find your guy who's leading a limited squad, whether it's a Russell Westbroker, it's a or it's a Luca Donchich in a case like this. The thing is, is like, as much as Lucas had to deal with, Jamal Murray's missed more than a fourth of the season. And Nicole Yokoj has kept them right in the mix there. Yokic in just about every major national TV game this year has clearly demonstrated. He's still the best player in the league. So for me, like, even though I view, I put him second, I put Lucas second, I just can't justify the gap in the standings and the fact that I think Yokic is playing
Starting point is 00:10:21 at a similar level, if not a touch higher anyway. But I think Luca has a legitimate case. And I think you got to throw Shay in there, too. I think Shay is a legitimate case as well. But I think Luke is going to win it, and I think he deserves it. Yeah. And actually, Luca this year. Or Yokich, I mean, excuse me. Yeah. I think Lucas played better defense this year. If you look at the efficiency numbers on defense, his steals. He, you know, he's never going to be a really great twitchy defender. And I would argue this, I don't need him to be. Listen, bro, give me 33 a night with your offensive efficiency. You know, like Steph Curry, we'll cover you somewhere. We'll have a rim protector. I don't need Luca to be a great defender. You know, when you have Janus's athletic ability in size,
Starting point is 00:11:02 then you're kind of demanding, I need the effort. I will say this about Luca that I don't know in my life. It took Kobe a few years that he was a more efficient score. He was a wild. He was like Josh Allen is a rookie quarterback. You knew it was there, but he was wild. I don't know in my lifetime. If anybody has ever walked into this league and 30 games into it, you said to yourself,
Starting point is 00:11:32 and maybe it was Kareem. This is before my time, right? I don't really remember when he broke in with Milwaukee. I didn't watch sports to like 70. 72, 73, 71, the Bucks won the title. I don't know if I've ever seen a player walk in. And by the all-star break of the first year, I remember saying, like, is he going to be a top five score ever? Like, he reminds me, like, obviously he's not highly vertical.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I don't know if he, I'm talking Jordan, LeBron, everybody. Is he maybe the greatest score, the most unstoppable score? He gets any shot he wants. Every time down the floor, it's almost his girth, his lack. You know, he's not de-weighed when you look at him. He's at times puffy. I don't know how to describe him. He is just an automatic bucket, always gets it shots.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I don't even know what his comp is. What is his comp? So, honestly, like, when it comes to his size, the guy he reminds me the most of is LeBron. And I know that they don't have a ton of similarities in their actual play style. The main thing is, and this is actually something we're going to talk about when we get to the Lakers, but like, when you try to ball pressure big players, that plays right into their advantage. Like, if you get physical with me and I have a size advantage on you, I can pivot, use angles to go right around you because I'm just bigger and I'm stronger. And so a lot of times, like, if you ball pressure, Luca, he's just going right around you and getting to the basket.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And so really what's kind of taken his game to the next level this year is he used to be kind of like a mediocre pull-up three-point shooter. Yeah, he had some hot streaks against the clippers in the postseason, but for the majority of his career, he was a low 30% guy on that little step back three that he likes to take, right? This season, he's shooting just shy of 40% on that shot. He's hitting that an extremely high rate. And so you can't press him because he's too big and he'll just go right around you. But if you play off of him, he almost like tricks you by just leaning back a little bit and he can get just enough separation to get that three-point shot over the top of you
Starting point is 00:13:35 and he's hitting it at damn near 40%. And so that just put everybody in a bind. And so we were getting career high points per game, career high, pull up three point shooting percentage, career high, pull up jump shooting percentage. Like he's just hitting these marks that he wasn't hitting early in his career in terms of scoring efficiency to match his volume. And that's just put him in a different stratosphere as a player. Now, if you go look in recent years, players that have his ball usage like a James Harden, it just doesn't work. You do get to a point where you've played 95 games.
Starting point is 00:14:05 This is a taxing league. And now, playoff basketball is much more physical. You play more minutes. They're all hard minutes. You know, Hardin could never break through. And my takeaway is if you're going to break through if you're Luca, it's going to be in the next six years. It's going to be in your prime. It's like 23 to 29 when you can put these insane numbers.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But do you worry about that? Because we do have a history that, like, players that came into the league like Kobe had to be, like they had to figure it out. Like, you just can't play like this all the time when the ball usage numbers are through the roof. What's up, everybody? John Middlecalf here. The NFL draft is right around the corner.
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Starting point is 00:17:10 I thought they'd just shoot their way to a lot of wins. And you'd have two of the three stars. Beale was hurt early in the season much more than I knew he would be. But they have played together. There is some duplication in the offense. But it's years ago, I've said this before, years ago, when people were saying Katie's better than LeBron, this is when he was with the Warriors winning MVP's. And I said, you got to add context to this. Like he's playing.
Starting point is 00:17:37 It's just go hit buckets. They don't ask him to lead, talk. he defended pretty well. He's always been a willing defender, but I'm like, they're not asking him to do anything. He didn't have to talk after the game, before the game. He didn't have to be the soul of the team.
Starting point is 00:17:47 He doesn't have to be the bouncer. And he doesn't have to do anything. And that's what Katie does, by way. He's a shot maker. He's great all time. But, and I felt this with Kauai, if you ask him to be a foundational piece, a leader, the barker in the clubhouse,
Starting point is 00:18:03 I go to the Warriors Laker game, and Draymond, and they're up by 12 late, is barking at play. LeBron's a coach. And you watch KD, and this is the difference. And I've said this with Kauai. When the culture is set and you add somebody like Kauai and Katie, and they just get buckets and stops, they're all-time players. But when you have to build something around that, because Booker clearly is not overly verbal, he's a scorer. That's okay. He's a scorer. And I look at this Phoenix situation, and I'm like, they would be better with LeBron. This is just a guy to get a basket, and this team needs more than that.
Starting point is 00:18:42 They've got guys, Beale and Booker, that can get a basket. They need, they need this reservoir of LeBron's sort of vision, leadership, this foundational personality. And so I look at Phoenix and I think, yeah, I just saw points. But all the good teams in this league, there's a soul. Curry's a soul piece. Yokic is. You don't even have to be overly verbal. but I look at Phoenix and I say, it'd be easy for me to just say, hey, Katie's been great.
Starting point is 00:19:13 But this is sort of, if you're a top eight player in the world, this is your team. And I don't care if Booker was here before. Booker wasn't winning for years and years before they brought Chris Paul in. He wasn't winning or a bad team. So I do look at Phoenix and say, some of this is just on KD. At times in your career, you have to be more than get a bucket guy, don't you? Yes. and that has been the primary issue for the Sons this year.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I wouldn't necessarily put it just on KD, but like KD, Devin Booker and Bradley Biel, all three of them, they are guys that like when they're engaged defensively can be deeply impactful defenders. Even Devin Booker, like Devin Booker is not the most physically gifted guard in the league, but like when I watch Sun's film and they're good on defense,
Starting point is 00:20:01 it's usually because Booker is engaged and he's talking and he's like the communicator. of the defense, like calling coverage is out and that sort of thing. Kevin Durant, like, for the record, I'm much higher on the Sons than most people. I had them, I had them fifth, I think, in my contender rankings coming into this postseason run. And I specifically love them for the Denver matchup. I think that NERCITCH is a big body that can make things tougher on Yokic than some other people. Another key part of the Sons is they have the best, in my opinion, the best spread, drive-and-kick type of team in the league.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Grace and Allen on that weak side has been the best three-point shooter in the league. He's great at driving closeouts. Because of the three-star build, you constantly have Bradley Beal off the ball or KD off the ball or Devin Booker off the ball attacking with an advantage. And so they can really spread teams out. And so teams like Denver that are like load up defensive teams that always defend pick and roll three on two and kind of load up on the strong side, that skip pass is open and Phoenix can pick you apart there, which is a big part of how Phoenix has had success against Denver
Starting point is 00:21:05 this year. But to your point, they've been inconsistent there where it's like I watch them today and they kick Minnesota's ass physically from the opening tip. I watch them against Denver and they kicked Denver's ass physically from the opening tip. And then I watched them against the clippers
Starting point is 00:21:21 the other night and they get punched in the mouth and they wilt. And it's like, so that's been very much their identities. They've been, they're like probably the widest range between floor and ceiling of all the teams that I've seen this year. Because like, you watch them on the right night, they look like a bona fide top-tier championship contender.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And then you watch them on another night and you're like, these guys aren't made of the right stuff. And so like, honestly, like the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. But I thought I thought they demonstrated a lot of grit coming back and winning in Sacramento the other night and then going into Minnesota with a chance to get out of the plan and killing them the way that they did. And in the process, sparing them from a Denver matchup as well. Like I thought that was a big time win for them. I'm generally higher on Phoenix than most people, But if there is a limitation, it's just they don't quite have a ton of physical alpha dog in there, if that makes sense. Over in the east, I think the Knicks facing either the 76ers or the heat, now, who are you going to take in that play in game April 17th?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Would you take Philly or Miami? Man, that game's going to be so fun because both teams are going to be playing as hard as they possibly can to avoid Boston. That's the avoid Boston Bowl. So I think here's the thing. Like, Philly's more talented, but Embed hasn't really played a good team since he come back from injury. And then Eric Spolstra is definitely going to have some janky stuff to throw at him to try to make him feel uncomfortable. Complete and total toss-up. Give me Eric Spolstra in a toss-up game like that.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So Jalen Brunson's interesting because he was a really good player with Luca. He was highly effective player. And then he goes to New York and he's obviously more than that. But again, when you play with a high ball usage player, that's understanding. stood. You know, it's like a receiver playing with a better quarterback. You can be good. Everybody can see your hands, your routes, and then you play with them a Holmes or a, you know, a top quarterback. And it's like, oh, your numbers all go up. So we all knew Jaylen Brunswick to play. In the last month and a half, and I think this is a lot of pro athletics is, you know, Carl Anthony Towns got
Starting point is 00:23:21 hurt for the T-Woles. And actually, their pacing got better. Their three-point shooting got better, which is not surprised because they had two bigs. Now you're down to one, and Gobert's not a gifted offensive player, Carl Anthony Town some times, can take the air out of the ball, like a lot of bigs, like you dump it down to, so the pacing got better. So Julius Randall gets hurt for the Knicks. And to me, it's like, when I watch them, it's like, oh, they always feel like there is something in this league about, you know, you got to get Julius's touches. You got to get certain guys their touches. You're paying them $24 million, $28 million. Well, they don't give Julius Randall's touches. And that's more touches for Jalen Brunson. And I'm sitting there watching them and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:23:57 I don't know. Like when I went and watched him in person, he is so much quicker than the TV gives him credit for. Like he, you cannot stay in front of him. You know, I don't care about Villanova, second rounder, a grinder. He's not a grinder. It's way more than that. He gets great looks. And I kind of look at the Knicks and I think to myself in an, I don't trust Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I kind of like Philadelphia. But again, what is MBE? He had 12 games. Is that what he played off the injury? I wouldn't be shocked. I look at the Knicks. I think in the East, a red-hot star, a good coach, and a lot of B guys that defend and play hard, I don't know. I don't think they'd get to the conference finals in the West.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I mean, hell, Milwaukee's a 500 team against the West. What do you make of the Knicks over the next three weeks? So I want to preface this by saying, I love the Knicks. I think they have the best basketball character of any team in the league right now. What do you mean by that? Super fond of watch. What that means to me is like doing the right thing on a day in, day out basis. All the players are engaged.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Everyone's bought in. Everyone plays their role. Their leader is a great leader, never too high, never too low. They bring consistent effort. They just do all the right things. And I love that about them as a team. And there is something to be sad about Julius Randall coming out of the lineup and that leading towards less of some of the ugly things we've,
Starting point is 00:25:23 seen from the North Corps of the years because Julius Randall, he has a tendency, like, things don't go his way, misses a couple shots, he'll take defensive possessions off, he'll pout, like that's something Julius Randall's been known to do at times, right? So like, there's been a lot of upside in a regular season. He's not been a great playoff guy. He's exactly, really struggle. In Julius Randall's defense, he's had some injuries when he's gotten to the postseason and he's usually playing a little banged up, but yes, yes, he's had a really rough
Starting point is 00:25:48 playoff career to this point. Here's the problem. Like, I think we both agree. that like the future of the Knicks probably doesn't involve Julius Raynall to probably do something different there. But strictly within the context of this season, it's
Starting point is 00:26:03 this simple. In a playoff setting, you can really throw the kitchen sink at a team that all operates through one star and there's only so much that effort and energy and focus and basketball character can make up for. And the main stat to kind of like drive that point home is that as good as the Knicks have been this year
Starting point is 00:26:20 against teams in the top 10 in point differential. They are 7 and 17 and they have the 14th worst point differential themselves in those matchups. They play really hard, they win all the games
Starting point is 00:26:33 they're supposed to win and then they run into the teams that have more firepower and they lose. That's pretty much the issue with the Knicks. I respect them. I have a ton of optimism about the future. They're super well positioned for a trade if they want to make a trade this summer.
Starting point is 00:26:45 They're in a great spot, but like do I think they're going to go on some sort of magical playoff run not necessarily Okay, I'll take Minnesota to beat Phoenix. I think it's a six-game series. I don't really know exactly. I've watched actually a lot of Phoenix and a little of Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:27:08 But I do think Minnesota, they've done, they've been too consistently good to flame out in the first round. And when I watch Minnesota, and maybe the analytics tell me something different, but I feel like I kind of get the same team when I watch them play. There are highs, lows. I kind of feel like I get effort. I get rim protection. I get Ants production. I get Conley's brain power.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I always feel they're prepared and well-coached. With Phoenix, there's good nights, and then they trail 35 to four at home to the clippers. And so I think Minnesota is a consistent team with a little bit of a ceiling. I think I take Minnesota in six, picking a paragraph. I'm taking Phoenix and 6. I'm really excited to watch today's game because very rarely do you get like a must-win game to sample
Starting point is 00:28:01 when you're prepping for a series where it's like we get to actually watch 48 minutes of the wolves and suns going at it actually trying to win. So that's going to be a really good film session tomorrow. Main thing that stands out to me though, the sun's shot super well. They got 1.76 points per catch-and-shoot jump shot
Starting point is 00:28:17 in that win over the wolves today. So they definitely shot really, really well. Here's why I'm low on Minnesota, though. It's really simple. They are one of the worst offenses in the league when you get into late game situations because Anthony Edwards is 22 years old and nobody else on the team can really consistently generate great shots. And so it's a lot of iffy decisions.
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's aunt settling for pull-up jump shots. And then weirdly enough, their defense falls apart for as good of a defense as they've been. Their defense falls apart in clutch situations because of the fact that Mike Conley's on the floor, Carl Townsend is on the floor. You can find entry points to get their defense and rotation. And then it doesn't matter if Rudy Gober is at the rim if he's chasing some guy off the three-point line in a driving kick situation. I think the sons are going to spread him out and get better shots. I think they'll be able to slow down Minnesota's office in the half courts.
Starting point is 00:29:04 So I'm picking Phoenix and six. Let's go east. Cleveland and Orlando. Orlando is maybe a little bit like the OKC of the West. Young really rising quickly. My guy, Jalen, Suggs. is an improved player. Like a lot of people had him as a bust early last year.
Starting point is 00:29:24 So Cleveland's been weird. Cleveland's going through something. I think I'd still take the calves. I don't know. That could be a seven-game series. My pick-in-paragraph, Cleveland and seven, something's wrong with them. What's your pick-in-paragraph?
Starting point is 00:29:43 These series are always tough to pick when everyone involved is so young and unexperienced that it's like so up in the air. Personnel favors Orlando. Orlando's an awesome offensive rebounding team. That is how New York beat Cleveland last year. They killed him on the offensive glass. Also, Cleveland is one of the most high volume pick and roll teams in the league.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And your guy, Jalen Suggs, might be the best guard defender in the league. And so Donovan Mitchell is going to be in for a tough series with just an incredible individual defender on him. So all the personnel stuff points me towards Orlando. But Orlando is super young and Cleveland got embarrassed last year. and they know what the playoffs are like now. So I expect a lot of fight from them. I'm going to go long series and gut check. I'm just going to say magic,
Starting point is 00:30:27 but we'll see after I watch some film. Milwaukee over Indiana, I think it's contrasting styles. Again, two of the three best players are Milwaukee. They'll probably get, because it's a veteran team, they'll get the veteran team whistle. A little more manipulation from a Lopez and a Janus and a dame with the officials.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It's one of these, like this will be a series. My prediction is when it's over, Indiana will be like, you don't like us. We're a small market team. We got a job by the refs. But these older teams are pretty good. Like the clippers will be good in these situations. I'm going to take Milwaukee in six. What's your thought?
Starting point is 00:31:07 I would take Milwaukee in seven if I knew Janus was healthy. With Janus being out, I just don't think the Bucks are a very good team. And if he misses three games in the season, series, it's possible that Indiana could be up to one with a game at home, you know, before Yannis even comes back. So like with Yonis being out, I think the safe bet is Indiana. But if like Yonis plays and he's healthy, like I think I would probably lean slightly towards Milwaukee. I'd pick Milwaukee in seven. So I'm really interested in a lot of the, I mean, like Milwaukee losing early's fascinating. Steve Malmer, I thought when he brought Hardin over,
Starting point is 00:31:46 I was talking to Lawrence Frank about this. I bumped into him at dinner about a month ago. And I said, I thought the hardened thing was just for the arena. I'm like, you know, he's an L.A. guy. Westbrook's an L.A. guy. Paul George Quine. It's like L.A. guy. He's opening the new arena.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And I'm like, he's actually, you guys have been looking for a point guard forever. He actually lubricates things. When Kauai's like trying to generate offense, it's like, no, it's not what he does. He can do it, but it's not what he does. And the hardened thing sort of worked, but you get James's weird, personality again. He's, he's an odd player. He's an odd quirky guy. I think much like the Bucks, if the clippers flamed out, I think Balmer was an inpatient investor and impatient at Microsoft. Am I supposed to believe as a sports fan now? He's suddenly going to be one of these long tarmac guys.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like, I think, no, I think the clippers lose and it's, they don't get a lot of consistent effort. you think they blow the team up? I think that's completely on the table. I mean, to put it simply, Colin, we could have four veteran teams blow up this. Just imagine some of these scenarios. Golden State loses in the plane, which by the way, Golden State, even if they beat Sacramento, if the Lakers beat New Orleans, New Orleans has Golden State's number. There's a solid chance Golden State does not get out of this playing tournament.
Starting point is 00:33:09 They could be facing a total rebuild. Let's say the Lakers beat the Pelicans, but then they go to Denver and just get killed. you don't think the Lakers are going to be sitting there looking in the mirror, like we just got swept or the gentleman swept two years in a row. We got to rethink this. What if Phoenix loses to Minnesota? They just went all in on Kevin Durant, Bradley Beale and Devin Booker, and they had an iffy regular season.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And what if they get smacked by Minnesota, right? The clippers, if they go out in flames, that could be a problem. The bucks, if they go down in flames, that could be a problem. What about Miami? What if Miami loses to Philly? And don't forget Atlanta beat Miami in a playing game. last year because they couldn't rebound with them. What if like Chicago or Atlanta gets in there and knocks out Miami?
Starting point is 00:33:50 Miami could be looking at this like, are we really going to run it back with Bam and Jimmy again when like we struggle every regular season and then we just barely squeak by and upset people in the postseason? Like this could be because of how deep the field is because there are so many good teams, we're going to have a bunch of pissed off general managers and owners this summer. That's like a guarantee. It's just a question of who. There's going to be a lot of really unhappy fans.
Starting point is 00:34:15 band bases and ownership groups this summer, and then all hell could break loose, and we could have a bunch of trades and stuff. Should be fun. The volume. Thanks so much for listening. If you've enjoyed the podcast, take a moment, rate, and review. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
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