The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Lane Kiffin To LSU, Bears Take #1 Seed In NFC, The Government’s Secret UFO Retrieval Program

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

Colin is joined by John Middlekauff to break down all the Week 13 NFL action, then Colin is joined by Dan Farah, the producer and director of the new documentary Age of Disclosure which sheds light on a secretive government program to retrieve and reverse engineer UFO’s/UAP’s Timeline: 0:00 Introduction 01:00 Lane Kiffin takes job at LSU 11:00 Bills vs Steelers 22:00 Bears take #1 seed in NFC 27:00 Eagles offensive struggles 31:00 49ers win despite rash of injuries 38:45 Which military base contact stood out the most to you? 39:45 UAPs show up at bases and nuclear weapons sites 40:45 Football field sized craft appeared at Vandenberg Air Force Base 42:45 Having an experience seeing a UAP will change you forever 43:30 Colin’s experience seeing a UFO when he was younger 44:45 People interviewed who had contact have had negative physical effects 45:30 Getting too close to this technology has caused sickness and cancer 47:15 The “bubble” theory of how the UAP’s work 48:30 The craft are warping space time around themselves 49:30 Inside the bubble the craft aren’t impacted by physics or the environment 50:30 The bubble is why we can’t get good photos of the craft 51:00 This technology is the solution to energy crisis and interstellar travel 53:15 Has there been any pushback to Age of Disclosure? (CUT BAD ACTORS LINE) 55:30 Credible people with stellar resumes put their names/reputations on the line 57:00 There’s an enormous amount of UAP activity underneath the ocean 57:30 The ocean is the easiest place to hide from humanity 58:45 UFO became UAP because of the activity underwater All lines provided by hardrock.bet   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And nobody really cares about discussing Rams Panthers, do they? No. Not really. Listen, I think we've, we've, we've, we've, let's just address a massive college football story that you and I care about. So college football, what you saw Lane Kiffin do feels a little different now because of the college football playoff. You used to leave a program, you know, and they were going to a bowl game. They weren't playing for a national championship. And I don't think Ole Miss was going to win an Addy, but it wouldn't have shocked me with Lane Kiffin if they won two or three games and finished in the top two or three. so it does feel a little gross.

But big picture is if you think about, if you really think about what happened, the NCAA four or five years ago was rigid. And you went from that, the rigidity of the NCAA to pure unadulterated, HGH-infused capitalism. And there's no boundaries. And it's the Wild Wild West, just like the Wild Wild West in the 18th. You had territorial governors and you have commissioners of conferences, but everybody's in their own self-interest. And so, listen, this is Harbott of Michigan, Lane Kiffin to LSU. It's massive.

It'll be controversial. It'll be great for the sport. And one of the little guys gets burned. I don't lose sleep on this stuff because I've been watching it my entire life, but wasn't this bound to happen if you hired Kiffin? Yeah, I just think there's no easy way to leave a school anymore. You know, I mean, these schools now are paying $50 million for a guy to go away in the middle of October. So you have LSU out to poach your coach for the last month and a half. That's abnormal.

You know, these buyouts got so extreme were like, you and I kept saying, well, these guys are safe. Turns out they're not. And they're getting bought out left and right. I also think part of the problem for Lane is he's a controversial and polarizing figure. And he's really done a lot to change his image, right? the documentary that he did. You just look at him physically. What do you think he's lost?

30 pounds. Stop drinking. Politically, he's talked to big game, how this place changed his life, gets him into the playoffs, and then leaves them for essentially their big brother, who I think it's hard. I understand where their fans are mad.

But like I understand both sides. I just think these things are, these things are ugly. It's pretty rare. Remember a couple years ago when Sabin retired, right after the national championship game, and DeBoar just left Washington. And it was a pretty scene.

homeless, you know, from Washington to Alabama, because everyone was done. You're seeing, you know, this cycle, all these, Penn State doesn't even have a coach. Right. And we can argue whether they're top 10, 5, I don't know where they land, but they could easily steal a guy in the next couple days. And that could be weird. Who's to say that it's not a top 15 program that they steal a guy from? So it's just, it's a lot different in the NFL, like you said. There are regulations.

There are rules. The New York Giants can't steal Sean McVeigh. But LSU can steal Lane Kiffin. honestly, it looked like kind of easily. Well, yeah, and Rick Petino noted this on social media. He said it's a calendar issue. Was that actually Rick Petino? I almost didn't even believe.

I thought it was like a fake account. I didn't realize it was actually Rick. Yeah, and he said it's a calendar issue. He goes, I wouldn't build my team to be a number one seed with a chance to win a national championship. And, you know, a day before the tournament, March Madness, bail. He said, you couldn't do that. It's a calendar issue.

And college football allows it for years and years. I was on my radio show and TV show, John. I'm sure at least once you heard me say this. It's an $8 billion sport with no CEO. It was boxing. Like, of course every boxer was out for itself. And every promoter, Bob Aram and Don King ran boxing. The SEC Commissioner ran the sport.

And then you have ESPN and Fox saying, guys, it's an $8 billion industry. We're going to make this more like pro football. We're going to have like an AFC, an NFC, the SEC and the Big Ten. So I don't, if you are a college football program and you hire Lane Kiffin and you don't understand the reality of your calendar and understanding this can happen, then you're naive. And I can feel for an Ole Miss fan, but this is, this is a calendar issue. And I said last week, aggressive men, if Wall Street did not have a regulatory board, you will.

see if you didn't have regulations at companies, if we didn't have an IRS, what do you think it would be like for aggressive men in this country? They would be taking big swings and doing something, doing many things that felt skeeby and unethical. So until college football in the NCAA put up boundaries, I mean, we put up some boundaries in the portal. We put up some boundaries in NIL. There's no boundaries on coaches leaving. I think what people have a problem with, you know, it's mainly the Ole Miss fans, not like LSU fans care at all, they're static,

is that we have this team who, in theory, has a chance to win a national championship. I don't necessarily agree they don't play any defense. But then this guy kind of plays us plays us would be strong, but as he says in his outgoing statement that the

AD wouldn't let him coach, well, yeah, Lane, no school worth their salt that has any respect LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio, State, Texas, it's very understandable why they wouldn't let you coach. Right. But then you steal Charlie Weiss's kid who's with Lane, the offensive mastermind. Well, this is an offensive juggernaut as a program, right, going into this playoffs.

Why remove Lane and I remove Charlie Weiss? If I am not like, if I can remove a little emotion and take a deep breath, I'd go, we have no chance in the playoffs, especially if we get a decent matchup because they're going to get dropped in the playoffs. You are ruining our dream season. I mean, in college, more than the pros, right, a bad program in the NFL, if they get the right quarterback, the right coach, they can immediately be good. Right. The Rams were a clown show. They get McVeigh. Look at them the last 10 years.

In college, you get the right coach, you got to strike Will the Iron's Hot because that guy's probably going to leave. But now I think, you know, fans would say, well, what the hell is the difference? We're paying these players. We're giving you money for the coaches. We're doing everything LSU tried to do and we're kicking their ass every year. We beat Georgia last year. Why do you need to go? And I do think that's a fair argument that we're going to learn. Is there a big difference?

And I know you said about, I think, you know, Lane would probably agree with you. It's the defensive guys. Like, I can get the offensive guys come. But for every Walter Nolan that I got last year, it's going to be very hit or miss. Where if I'm at LSU, if I'm at Georgia, if I'm at Ohio State, I could get five or six of those guys. And then I think the other area that people have a hard time with is like Nick Sabin, you know, Nick, you fired Lane for causing problems inside. your program. And it does feel very, and listen, I have a lot of respect for Jimmy Sexton, created this business from nothing and became what he became. It's not his fault that academia

struggles with negotiating with these guys. And it's a, it's a one-sided fight. But it clearly feels where in the NFL, there's a lot of pushback. If you want to negotiate with Howie or you want to negotiate with the 49, like it's not easy. And with these schools, it just seems like one couple guys have all this juice and are just playing puppet master within the sport. And that gets back to what you said. There's no rules. There's no regulations. So Bob Aaron and Don King take over the business. They need a Dana White. Because UFC passed them, right? Because they got a Dana White. Well, I think we're still a while away from college football kind of having that structure, though, right? I mean, it doesn't feel like it's tomorrow coming in. No. I mean, listen,

if you look at pre-Kiffin, Matt Luke, Ed Orgeron, Houston Nut, Hugh Freeze cheated like a, you know what, the bottom line, it was a losing irrelevant program. If they knew Kiffin was going to burn him, if they knew it going in that he was going to do this, they'd still take 55 and 19 relevance in the number one scoring offense in the country by a wide margin. They would have signed up for it today. So I don't have any, their last SEC titles, 1963. It's an irrelevant program. And Lane, I watched four or four.

Miss games the last four this year, four last year? Maybe I'd watch the Egg Bowl every year for a half. Like, I'm sorry, you were in a relevant program. Hugh Freeze cheated to make you sort of interesting. But Nick Saban said he stopped recruiting his last couple years in Mississippi because Hugh freeze was cheating so bad. Players were getting paid at the end near signing day and they were losing him. So, I mean, you would have signed up for 55 and 19 when you had the coach. coaching opening if you knew he was if I said number one offense top five program 55 and 19 he'll bail on you you'd have signed up for it you know you used to have that that statement that the thing that makes smart men dumb or women and money and I think the hard part is for the program is that

this not really money right old miss was paying him 10 million they were willing to pay him 14 it's almost a, you know, a revelation from Lane and his belief that your program simply isn't as good as LSU, right? And I think that hurts. And that's where you're getting really, like you're in the playoffs, but big picture, you know, I'm the reason. And historically in college, basketball and football, do you lose the coach? You're in major trouble. Like the guy that's replacing him, I remember when he was the offensive coordinator in Alabama, it was not going well as a defensive coordinator. clearly they were in a desperate situation, but I think over the next couple years, relative to

what they've been, if Ole Miss was a stock, you'd probably short them, and you would probably buy stock in LSU the next couple years, right? All right, let's talk. As we do this, it's in the fourth quarter, but Buffalo leads going away against the Pittsburgh Steelers. And Aaron Rogers got hurt. He got smoked by Joey Bosa. bloody bridge of his nose, left the game, came back.

You know, it's funny because Sean McDermott and Mike Tomlin are both defensive coaches. And I could make a strong argument that their message has sort of worn thin, like three points in the first half for Buffalo, making a mistake down near the goal line. It's like, guys, you got a veteran staff, you got a veteran quarterback. You got a veteran left tackle. You can't be making these mistakes. But I do, I look at Pittsburgh right now. And they have no quarterback for the future. Aaron looks in cold weather, really old.

Aaron's letting go to that ball, John, so quickly. I don't blame him. He doesn't want to get hit. He does never run game. I thought this was a bad fit. I said he should go to Minnesota or he should retire. I never thought, you know, in warm weather early in the season. But Mike Tomlin's teams,

I haven't won a playoff game. I could be wrong. Eight plus years. They're not a viable franchise. They get really bad at the end of seasons. I don't know. I mean, yeah, Buffalo just scored. It's going to be now 23 to 7. What do you do with McDermott and what do we do with Tomlin? Well, I think McDermott's still, you know, these next, whatever, five, six games, then the playoffs are going to be huge for them. I mean, as of right now, it's going to be an uphill battle for them, just assuming. that New England wins on Monday night to win the division. They were heavy favorites at the beginning of the year, not just to win their division. They had the best betting odds with the Ravens to win the Super Bowl. I mean, they have one of the best players in the league. You know, I'd say Josh spent a little up and down this year. Part of that, to me is on the GM.

And I think when you look at these two franchises, you know, Brandon Bean for the bills, like Keon Coleman, it was inactive the last two games. He was their essentially their first round pick last year, pick 33, right? They traded out. He had a touchdown today. That helps. He did. He did.

But, I mean, you're in a position. where you're still like teaching them life lessons a year and a half in. That's not ideal. I think the Steelers, I've been texting around the league. Obviously, Tomlin, I think it's fair to say. You're there 17 years. Back in the 60s, they would have said that's a long time, let alone modern day, the internet age.

It's unprecedented. I don't think we're going to see that very often ever again. But I think their GM and their front office, you know, it used to be with Kevin Colbert. The Steelers and going back to the Bill Coward days, we just always had one of the best rosters in the league. right defensively top to bottom offensively they always had multiple piece

totally just had like super reliable people all over the place right and then star power they don't even feel remotely close to that I actually gained a lot of respect for Rogers today he's gonna be 42 in less than a month he's out there with a cast on his left hand which that's a hand that used to brace yourself

he's made hundreds of millions of dollars he does not need to be doing this so I give him a lot of respect for same it's not like he has a lot of equity with his franchise that he needs to try to earn their respect. So he's trying. He's giving them all they have. But Tomlin takes a lot of shit. Now, I've been saying for a while, it's probably time for a breakup.

If you're Mike Tomlin, you go to the Giants, you would be getting an outstanding ovation walking into that press conference. Right. But the front office in the GM, when you look at the team, Cam Hayward's been there for a decade and a half. That has nothing to do with this group. TJ Watts's been there for 10 years, right? The talent on that roster and the philosophy of the moves, like, you know, you

you're trading for D.K. McCaff? Like, he's a number two guys, and you're going to pay him $150 million. Like, what are you guys doing? I know. No position. I'm watching the Bears make some seventh round running back go for 130 yards with his eyes closed. And you guys, you're the guy you drafted in the third round can't sniff the field. Your front office who is, I would say the Steelers for a long, long time, just they were the most reliable franchise just doing it right year in, year out for decades. my entire life. I look now, I see like, God, something's off kilter there. And maybe the family's getting a lot older. You know, it's just, things change. They're so rich now. Maybe you lose touch a little bit, have the same chip on your shoulder. But to me, the talent on the, on the roster.

And I'd say, listen, it's not like Buffalo. We've talked about this is some greatly talented. They had injuries today, missing some players. But even when healthier, I wouldn't consider them the 07 pass. No, I mean, the Lakers sold. It felt very much. mom and pop. And then they bring in the Dodgers group, and it already feels they're getting rid of bus family members. I think would the Roonies ever sell? They feel, I mean, that division now has the Brown family, mom and pop. The Roonies feel outdated little mom and pop. Baltimore's got excellent ownership and management throughout. Cleveland, a bit of a mess, although I like the coach. I like the GM. I like the roster, actually. But it's just watching this today, you have two defensive coaches. You know,

it's seven, three, or ten, three, and half, whatever it was. And it was like, God, there's just nothing creative. I mean, Buffalo, basically, if you look at their game plan, they just, it was pretty clear. They, they were just wanted to get into a slug fest, and they just kind of figured they would, over the course of time, score. Get the 20 points. You can't match us. That's what it felt like. It almost felt like what Ohio State did against Michigan. Like, that first half, Ohio State was so conservative. And their take is we got better players. We're going to win this game.

It's just going to take three and a half hours to win the football game. So I feel like I'm always beating up on the Steelers, but small market Green Bay is so smart, so cutting edge. Offensive coaches do a very good job in the sport of solving problems in season. I've said this, John. A McVeigh, a Reed, a Sean Payton. I think those guys, Shanahan has done a great job this year, solve problems, middle of a season, takes a couple of weeks. I feel like defensive coaches need an offseason to solve problems.

Pete Carroll will need an offseason. Tomlin, McDermott. When things go sideways, they don't rebound quickly. I mean, you watch Denver struggle, struggle in their first half offense. Then they play the Chiefs, and they get on the board in the first half, and they kind of clean it up. I mean, Ben Johnson has an identity. they're a number one seed now, Chicago. Like, I mean, the defense leads in takeaways, the offense leads in rushing.

There are a number one seed. These offensive coaches come in. Ben Johnson has been tweaking this mother every two weeks. Like, you've seen improvement. Pittsburgh League, you know, I feel like they think like, okay, you play the season, then the season's over, and then you take the wrenches out and you fix it. You've got to fix it every week in pro football. Now the coaching's too smart.

Yeah, I think also the, organization like the way they view football is the defense can carry us. And I still believe you need a good defense to win in college or the pros. But it's an offensive sport. I mean, didn't say this a decade ago when he hired Lane Kiff. And I had to adapt because of the rules. So you can't, even the Texans, I mean, the Texans have what looks like to be an all-time great defense. I mean, their defense is fantastic. But if their offense plays like that, they're not going anywhere even if they make the playoffs. That's the one thing I will say about the bills is, The AFC does look pretty wide open.

I mean, there are a lot of random teams going to make it that as long as you got that quarterback, I think we'd both agree. They would have a chance in every game. If the pass rushers are healthy and Josh is healthy, they would have a chance. Where the Steelers, I've been saying this for the month. I mean, clearly, they have been in a free fall for a month. I mean, ever since Flacco beat them on that Thursday night game, they have not been good. Same thing last year.

But this is even starting earlier this year. The attrition of the age. Listen, it's just, it's not Tomlin will probably, assuming that, I mean, they'll get a divorce one of these days. It is an organizational thing, and you bring up the Packers, they have a much better front office. Gutikins, I got news for you. I know Rogers' butted heads with him, but he kind of was right on that transaction, and he's pretty good at his job. You know, like the power, I don't know football is quite baseball, but your GM is pretty important because it's not obviously the quarterback, but it's a lot of auxiliary moves of, you know, backup defensive lines. Who's your slot receiver? Who's your slot corner? You can make moves in season. You know, one thing, you know, Howie is done that I think a lot of Lions fans go, like, where are trades mid-season? Like, you can be aggressive now in this modern day NFL. So I'd say the Steelers just kind of ran into age, attrition, and just a coach that, you know, it's just time. There's nothing wrong with that. Andy Reid was fired in Philadelphia. Ask him how that turned out.

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And he still has a quarterback who I think is a work in progress, who, but again, this goes back to Nick Sariani is scheme dependent. Philadelphia has been spiraling this entire scene. offensively has been an uneven mess. He can't fix it because he doesn't have the right O.C. Ben Johnson, we don't even think the quarterback's a great fit. We didn't think going into this season, this defense, it's a magnet for turnovers. Nobody thought that. They're number one in the NFL and takeaways. We didn't even like their secondary. Jalen Johnson got hurt. We were like, they're screwed. No, they, Nashon Wright, they find all these guys. Now they like,

lead the NFL. Their secondary is just pansy picking it off, one-handed catches. So, I mean, I think I wrote this down during the game that Ben Johnson's the best young head coaching hire since McVeigh. That's what it feels. Like Shanahan was a great hire, but Shanahan's been like winning season, losing season, winning season, losing seasons. In San Francisco always had a heartbeat because it's got good ownership. The Rams were, with Jeff Fisher, unwatchable to double-digit wins, I still think Caleb's completing 58 and a half percent of his throws,

I still think this has so much more room to grow offensively. See, I would say he's a combination of the two because Shanahan was much more heralded as an offensive coordinator, right, with Atlanta, where McVeigh was coaching in Washington, they weren't winning as many games. He was like this shooting star within the league, but everyone when he hired him was 31.

But that first year, they were immediately awesome and in the playoffs. You're like, what? After Jared Goff honestly looked like he was going to be out of the league, his rookie year. If I would have told you that going into December that the Bears would be the NFC's top seed with their quarterback throwing for under 60% of completion percentage, not a soul would have believed you. Right? That's the thing.

They are winning all these games. Their quarterback's pretty inaccurate. Now, the touchdown throw that he made was, like that was USC, Oklahoma, Heisman Trophy. He still has some remarkable highlight plays, but he still misses a ton of just like random outroutes over throwing guys. And it gets back to the thing that Shanahan did. And McFay did this early too because he had Gurley. He would just run the ball, unlimited runs.

Just as two running backs had 40 carries in that game. Where you watched the other night against the Panthers, Canales, RICO Doudal, he had six carries. It's like, the guy had like 900 yards coming into the game. It's middle of October or middle of November. What are you doing? Ben Jotson can't even relate. Shanahan can't relate to that. They will just keep giving young McVeigh until he got Stafford,

will just hand it off, hand it off, hand it off. They're your quarterback's best friend, and it makes the game so much easier on Caleb. And then you can use Caleb's legs, but the running game, the scheme, I mean, Vic Fangio's making $5, six million a year. I mean, they got Jordan Davis first round pick, Jalen Carter,

first round pick, all their linebackers. I mean, they got really good players up front. And they had no clue what was coming. It felt like, you know, sometimes when you watch like a Navy, you know, coaches always talk, hey, whenever you play one of those service academies, it's hard to practice for them because, you know, the different misdirection and they're chop blocking you. The Eagles were just all, they didn't know where, it was like they were playing the wing tee. And you could tell early on, you're like, this is a pretty special game plan here from Ben John. He's, uh, I've been blown away. And I always say, like, going from a coordinator job to a head coach, having seen it firsthand. When I was in Philly, Sean McDermott was our defensive coordinator,

Andy Rhee was the head coach. When someone got in trouble, Big Dom walked to Andy's office, not Sean McDermott's. So as a coordinator, you just, you're not dealing with so many other things in the building besides, I'm not even talking football. And clearly he's able to handle the pressure of this city, the divisions. He's now beating really good teams. Right. It's like, okay, he's beating the Giants. Last couple weeks, like that Steeler game, even if they end up 9 and 8, that was a real win. And obviously the Eagles on the road in Philadelphia, a short week, with Philly just coming off that loss, I mean, it's just, I mean, they worked them. I mean, that was, they kicked their ass.

That was honestly one of those situations where you went, am I kind of out on Philly? Because something's off. It does feel a little bit, not quite as bad, but remember a couple years ago when they free fell, something's, you can't have a working situation with AJ and Jalen. having it be that public, that palpable, even if like, well, on the field, we just put our head downs, eventually that stuff carries over to other people and create some sort of rift, right? No, and the other thing is Greg Kosell always,

he's truth serum. Greg Kosell watches film. He doesn't really have strong opinions based on anything other than film. And he always says this. The Philadelphia Pass game is really very simple. It's not hard to defend. They just have great athletes. and there's throws Jalen Hertz can't make because he can't see.

So that's why this offense is so uneven. So when Barclay, Chacon Barclay's not getting these run gaps, it becomes very Jalen Hertz dependent. Well, that's a limited offense. Sequin Barclay's humming. Now it's second and three, the offense is better. But you put Jalen Hertz into half to throw situations. It's a simple offense.

He doesn't see some stuff. I mean, he's better than Tua because he's more athletic. He's tougher, but there's limitations. And I also think we go back to Nick Sariani. When he got the job, I had two people, I just say, what do you think? And they're like, he's not ready to be a head coach. He needs to get great coordinators. What do you got, Shane Steichen?

And he didn't let Steichen call plays. Remember that? You do. They were awful. Then he gave it up. Then they were fine. Now he hires Brian Johnson. It's a disaster.

then he hires his new guy. Kevin, what's the last name? Petula. Kevin Petula. Kevin Petula, obviously, struggling with either relationships or play calling. There's nothing Nick can do. Nick's almost got an aggressive, defensive coordinator mentality. He's not remotely close to a scheme guy. So to me, they have problems they can't solve in season. Most great offensive coaches can solve their shit in season. I don't think, Sireani only solved it with Shane Stuyken when he just handed over the play calling. So what are they going to do? Do we really think this team, I mean, John, this has been a nine week, 11 week, 12 week issue.

This isn't going away. The one thing they got going for them is I did this after the Bears game. They still got the Raiders, the commanders, and the commanders on the schedule. And even next week they play the Chargers on Monday night who just have a lot of injuries and just are a beatable. you know, eight and 14. But to me, if you lose to the Chargers, they do feel fickle enough to lose Danny. You know, you could get beat to a random commander game. I mean, we saw it happen a couple years ago. So I would say next week, Monday night football in Los Angeles, which I would guess will have a lot of Eagles fans there, kind of must win, especially if the Cowboys, because you go,

all the Cowboys don't have enough, you know, there's not enough space for them to catch up. Well, all of a sudden, you beat the Lions. And they're with the hot, team in the league. The Eagles lose on Monday night. Then they got a short week against the Raiders. And all of a sudden, this pressure and it starts getting weird. And these guys, it's going to be hard for AJ. I mean, he's already not keeping his mouth shut, you know, during the week. He's like, what do I even care anymore? I'm not going to be on this team next year. And the thing in Philly, you know, they started, I knew going into that game, I'm like, if this thing is like seven to six or something in the first half, that crowd is going to be on edge.

because they already come in with apprehension that we're not actually that good. Like I know we're the defending champs, but we feel way off. And then when you start getting physically shoved around, because the one thing you'd say Philly has, they had that stretch when Fangio got a couple of players back. It's like, you got one of the best defense of the league.

And then you start getting worked on defense. You go, well, we're going to have problems. If we're not holding you to 10, 13 points, we're going to be in for it. And then all of a sudden, they're up 103. And you go, the Eagles team. I mean, if it wasn't, I mean, they fumble a tush push. I don't know.

They are, the story of the game obviously was Ben Johnson, but I do think that Kevin, but here's the problem. So you're going to, this season, you go 11 and 6, you lose in the first round, you fire your offensive coordinator. You just bring in another guy. And you have, you know, it's Jaylon's whatever, 10th offensive coordinator, or 10 years or whatever the staff will be. It's like, and you just hope you get a Kellynne Moore or Shane Seichen. But I don't know. Well, you're saving on Siriani's contract. So, and the Jalen Hurts deal. is very team friendly, so you'd probably go spend $3 million and you go, you outbid people for the best coordinator. San Francisco 49ers 26, Cleveland 8, the 49ers 9 and 4 heading into the latest buy in the

Kyle Shanahan era, I think. It's a great time for a buy. These late buys are perfect. I have said this. I think the coaching staff of the year is San Francisco. To be nine and four, that's a good division. Even going to Arizona has historically been tough for all the teams in that division. Always been tough. Even as wonky and weird and strangely owned and quarterbacked and coach. I know everybody wants to talk about Shedur. You know, they had 253 yards of total offense. That's about what the Niners had.

You know, Christian McCaffrey, 20 carries, four catches. Brock Purdy was more than solid. You know, Cleveland butchered a punt. That helped a lot. But, you know, my take was San Francisco this year had been very bad after wins. And I know you can roll your eyes at Carolina, but they thumped them and Carolina beat the Rams today. And Cleveland won last week. So you can say what you want.

But going to Cleveland, winning bad weather, not built for Brock Purdy, I was really impressed. I feel like I have to reeval. I pick the Niners for third. Now, Seattle won and the Rams are going to win the division. do you think San Francisco is a playoff team? Oh, yeah. I mean, I think the playoffs are set now. Like I said, I think all three teams in the West are clearly in.

Ram, Seattle, the Niners, and I think pretty much if the Lions lose Thursday, it's the Bears and the Packers. And that's in some order, those are your three wild cards. To me, the Niners, today was an organization, organizational win. I mean, the Browns are such a cluster, you know what. I mean, what an embarrassment of a franchise. It really, and the 49ers are the complete opposite. their front seven is like a UFL team. I mean, all their, they showed

the, all the guys on injured reserve. I mean, Fred Warner and Nick Bosa may combine like $50 million. They're two of, Fred's one of the best defensive players in the league. Oh, he looked like, but Bosa early this season looked fantastic before he tore his ACL.

Their first round pick, they had, they were six and 11. They had the 11th pick was the kid from Georgia tore his ACL. He's six foot five, 280 pounds. I mean, so you were moving through. They're playing with Cleland Farrell,

who they let walk a couple years, who was on a practice squad, and he's flying around Sacken Shador. Meanwhile, you got Stafansky and Barry have this quarterback controversy with two guys they've drafted in the third and the fifth round, and the 49ers are just clowning them. Like you said, Brock Purdy has not been good in weather. Even the day, he's wearing something on his elbow that he heard a couple years ago against the Eagles, because in cold weather it kind of stiffens up.

I'm like, did he hurt his elbow? No, that's just a holdover from his previous injury. It's like, Jesus. You know, but in Miles Garrett's coming off a game where he has 25 sacks against the Raiders, so you're like, this guy, Jim Schwartz, the stat was he was 8 and 1 against Kyle Shanahan as a defensive coordinator or head coach against Kyle Shanahan-led offense. It was my second favorite bet. I had San Francisco winning 2420.

My second favorite bet of the day was Cleveland plus five and a half, six points. I thought it was going to be a dog fight. Yeah, I just think franchises, and this is what I respect about Ben Johnson is you're either a tough coachier or not. And not every guy is Jim Harbaugh or Mike Frable, like an actual tough guy, Dan Campbell. It's about the way you practice. It's a knock on Lincoln Riley. It's like, how do you practice? And, you know, you can be an offensive guy and be a tough-minded guy by the way you practice. And the 49ers, I've been going to their practices for years. Like, it's just a tough old school franchise. And this was a year where honestly, they should have been

like last year. Mack Jones has to start seven, eight games, prettiest turf toe. And look at the Bengals. They lose Burrough for a large portion of the season and their whole franchise just melts down. Like part of this is you're more than just one, this is a team game. Like you see today like, you know, it's not Shador, it's not Miles Garrett,

you're a team. You're kind of the special teams unit, you're dependent on everybody. And I just think you just saw the 49ers, we talk about this a lot during the combine. You're like, you can just tell, these teams have no shot. And this gap now is,

it's probably like 10 teams versus 20. And you got the Browns who spend all this money, who got a couple Ivy League GMs and coaches. They're always like four or five wins. It's like, I don't know, maybe it's the owner. The 49ers since they've gotten Kyle, really beside the one year last year, like they've been pretty consistent now.

And this year how they're doing it. Now they benefit from an easier schedule. But man, I mean, they beat Seattle and they beat the Rams this year. It's crazy. It's, you know, I, I, this has been, if I, this has been the year of coaching. Mike Vrable, Ben Johnson, Shanahan and Robert Sala. You've seen, by the way, Stafford didn't practice before the season. This is the best Rams team, despite today's loss.

McVeigh's done an unbelievable job. So Rams lost 28, 31. Carolina beats him 31, 28. Basically, Rams had three turnovers, Carolina, and none. Bryce Young, you know, he's 15 for 20. It didn't make any mistakes. Stafford, whose number one target now appears to be Devante Adams over Puka, at least in the end zone, the regression. I thought the Rams lost today.

I was texting Jason McIntyre. I'm like, you can't play 17, 18 weeks without just stepping in it. And it was just all those turnovers coming into today. I think Stafford had 30 touchdowns and two picks. That's like me starting the year, 18 and 1. on my blazing five picks. You're going to do one in fours back to back. Like, regression to the mean, I don't take much from it.

I think the Rams have it sewed up, and I think the Rams defense didn't play great. And I also think the Carolina team we saw today, and I watched almost every snap of this game. They're six and six now. That's the team I bet on getting a touchdown at San Francisco. But San Francisco and Sala handcuffed Bryce Young against a healthy defense today. Bryce Young moved the ball. They were three for three on fourth down. I mean, I mean, Caroline is more than functional.

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Dan's the director and producer of Age of Disclosure. It's currently on prime video. In fact, it's the number one movie on Prime. And if you look at their lineup, that's pretty heady stuff. Dan Farah has made a movie that has altered my perception of intelligence beyond our borders and beyond our capabilities. And when I watched Age of Disclosure, and I'm not as cynical today as I was 20 years ago, and a lot of that's because of videos of craft and technology that were clearly not capable of. And so I thought, I'm going to spend an hour with Dan Farah.

And many of you have seen it. Probably many more of you will see it. And so let's start our interview. The first pop moment for me watching this when I really sat back. I watched it twice. And then I've watched several interviews was when you went and it was senior officials, highly credible people, many retired, you went to Missoula or Missouri or California. You went to bases.

It was really like. like Google Maps. You went in and zoned in on these bases and told stories. And these were people that were older. They were not hyperbolic. They almost felt as if they were ashamed they hadn't told the story earlier. They were they were that's what it felt like to me. They felt like, listen, I'm telling you this story. I mean, what in the world could have been? I didn't know. They felt guilty for not telling it earlier. Yeah. Of all those base stories, And there's four or five you illustrate, and it's really worth watching for that five-minute part of the documentary. Which one to you, I mean, because they all felt so real.

And there's no reason at this point you're retired to, you know, add limit or disclose information that's not forthright and honest. Yeah. Which one of those base experiences to you, is there one you still think about or one that had the most impact to you? Yeah, for sure. 100%. One really stands out to me, but first I'll tell you, look, you, you interview people every day. This film, this was the first documentary I directed, and the first time I conducted interviews, right? And I really truly felt it. When they were sharing their truths and their experiences, I felt like these people were just getting a weight off their shoulder and, and relieved to finally talk about it, right? Like, they wanted the world to know the truth. They felt the world deserved to know the truth.

So the activity at bases, the UAP basis, the UAP activity over military bases, it's not just military base, it's also our nuclear weapons sites. And it's active. It's an ongoing issue. And I interviewed a number of military officials who experienced events that happened in our classified airspace over military bases. And one that really stands out took place at Vanderberg Air Force Base. I'm in Los Angeles right now as I talk to you and just up the coast like two hours. is Vanderbord right around Santa Barbara area. And I interviewed a Air Force security guard whose job at the time was to guard

nuclear weapons, like a guy we clearly trust, right? Like not a crazy person, like someone put in a very trusted position. And he was amongst, it was five or six other Air Force security guards at the time. They saw a light coming off the coast, the Pacific Coast, towards the base. At first they thought it was an airplane that was flying towards them. They just saw a single light. And then as it got closer, the light went away. And what came into view was what they described as a giant craft, the size of a football

field. It puts his arms out like this and says it was the size of a football field. It was rectangular. It was matte black, no lights, no visible means of propulsion. And it was just there. And it came over the base, over their heads, and it hovered over their heads. And they said they just looked up in awe and shocked at this extraordinary thing that just defied everything they knew about reality, and then it shot off at thousands of miles an hour.

Obviously, you know, mankind has never made a craft the size of a football field that could fly with no propulsion system and no lights and then shoot off at thousands of miles an hour. And, you know, hearing, hearing this, this person tell this story was extraordinary. He had never spoken up publicly about it. This was his first time going public after a month. Wow. decade. He had no desire previously to talk about it. But when he learned about, you know, who was speaking up in this film and revealing the truth, he felt like it was important for him

to join that and share his truth. But it was also extraordinary on top of that is after talking to him, I talked to other Air Force security guards that were on the base that day. And they all told the same thing. They all had the same story from different perspectives. And then a couple of them actually slipped me the police report, the Air Force security police report that had the new details, the details in it. And it's a real situation that actually happened. And that is extraordinary. The idea that there are human beings out there in our country that have had these experiences, you know, and I, and I, you know, I was talking about this with Joe Rogan last week. I asked you, like, think about, like, put yourself in the shoes of this guy.

What, like, what would your reaction be? You look up and you see a UFO the size of a football field just above you and it takes off thousands of miles an hour. It's, you know, that's, that's so insane and such a like departure from what we know to, you know, be reality, right? It's got to just forever change you. I think these people have these experiences, I think they are forever changed by them. Well, I've told my audience this, I think once before. I had an experience years ago. I was in college. I was in a car. I believe it was a AMC Pacer. My dad had got from his friend who was a car dealer.

Wow. And I had driven from college with Mark Fisher, who was my friend. And we were in a very rural area in Grayland, Washington. And we pulled up to my house, which had a long driveway. And I had a Frank Lloyd Wright house. I've told this once or twice before. And I saw a light above the house. And it was a very rural road.

So Mark was sleeping. And I said, hey, dude, look, look, what is that? It was very small. hovering right over our house, multiple lights. And as I pulled up our driveway, it shot out and up. Wow. And I went, okay, I'm going to take Mark home. I did.

I came back. I came. And my mom, she was up, actually, because I had driven from college and she wanted to make sure I was safe. I said, did you hear anything? She goes, she was British. No, darling. I didn't hear anything.

Wow. I said nothing, a humming, anything. So I always chalked it up. My town was small. We didn't have helicopter. adopters in my town. It wasn't a small plane because it hovered and then went out and up. And it was, I was thinking as I was taking the train in Chicago, I'm in L.A. some, but Chicago more. And I was thinking, I'm not going to waste his time with this story, but now we can, you know,

kind of segue to it as, you know, there have been Aaron Rogers has talked about this, Baker Mayfield, who I, you know, I didn't chide, but I sort of poke fun of him. I said, I don't want my quarterbacks talking UFOs, right? This is an adult position. But the truth a lot of people who have nothing to gain from it have had these experiences. What I thought was really fascinating is the negative biological effects of people you interviewed of your 34 and senior intelligence officials who have come in contact with not only craft, but I guess I would say lack of a better word, aliens. Yes.

That have had very negative physical biological effects. take our audience there because that to me, again, to say that publicly, to say it privately at a party is one thing, to say it publicly is mind-blowing to me. I don't remember anybody of that level ever saying that publicly. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the big reveals that came out making this doc is that intelligence officials, military officials, who have encountered UAP, UFOs, have had biological effects, meaning getting too close to this technology has negatively impacted them, their health, their bodies. In some cases, cause cancer. And, you know, it's understandable because this is a technology that we don't fully understand, and it's extremely powerful.

And it gives off a lot of energy. So the analogy is like, hey, if you didn't know what an F-16 was and you went and stood behind it when it was taken off, you're going to get F-D up, you know? Like, it's not great. And so, you know, I think what we're learning is that this technology is far outside our understanding in every way. And yes, there's been a number of intelligence officials and military officials who have had severe health issues. And some people have passed away from cancer that they got by being too close to UFOs. And that's a darker part of this whole truth that is coming. out now. And it is shocking. Yeah. Dan Fara is joining us, director and producer age of disclosure.

What has been interesting is since you have done this documentary, there's been other pieces of video that have run even on the network nightly news. Yeah. One in particular is what appears to be a UAP. I think it's Yemen. And we fire at it. and the missile or the shot goes through it, bounces through it, which, based on the bubble wrap theory in your documentary is explainable. So the nightly news couldn't explain it. Yeah. But I want you to talk about the two physicists that talked about the bubble wrap theory because I have seen, and many people who have seen these UAPs, there is a almost a muted look, like they're inside something. And if you could, let's talk about the bubble wrap theory. It's about a three to five minute discussion.

And it really, to me, it was a pivotal moment because a lot of these things look different. The ones I've always struggled with is the ones that appear to have a circular device or a shield around them. And it was described by your physicists. Yeah. So over the years, there's been a lot of flight performance characteristics that have been observed. when people see UAP. They see them doing these performance characteristics that defied physics as we know it, right?

And a couple of the very senior scientists that I interviewed who worked on classified UAP programs for the U.S. government, they reveal in the film that they have figured out how this technology works, how these UAP are doing what they're doing. And simply put, these craft are generating a significant amount of energy

and they're creating a, they're essentially warping space time, which sounds like something out of a science fiction movie. I understand that. Right. But they are saying what these scientists reveal is that they are warping space time in a localized area, and they're creating a bubble around the craft.

And essentially, the simplest way to say it, is that bubble creates a barrier between the environment the craft is in and our environment. Yes. So the laws that, you know, define what you can do, you know, what physics allows you to do in our environment are no longer applicable, right? So what happens in that bubble is completely different than what happens outside the bubble. So they might be moving along, having a Sunday stroll like a leisurely flight, right?

And to us, it looks like they're going at these impossible speeds. It explains everything. It explains why transmedium travel is observed. We see these craft going from space to the air to the ocean seamlessly through these separate environments, which is not something our aircraft can do. But once you understand that they're in their own space-time environment, they're within this bubble, then it makes sense because the bubble and everything in it

is not impacted by the environment around it. It also explains why we've had so much trouble getting these things on radar because the way radar works is a radar emitter, shoots radar at an object, and then it bounces back to the radar emitter, and that's how you figure out where the thing is, right? But in this case, the radar is just bouncing around the bubble and continuing on, right? It also explains, you know, the answer to the age-old question of why is it so hard to get a good photo or video of a UFO?

The simple answer is because we're taking photos and videos through a space-time barrier, through this bubble. It's the equivalent of trying to take pictures of fish under the ocean from above the ocean. You can't do it. No one would ever be like, hey, I'm trying to take a picture of these fish in this coy pond and it looks all blurry. Why is that happening? You'd be like, well, moron, you're taking a picture from above the water to something in the water, right? And it's the same thing here. Like, you can't get a good picture of these things because we're trying to take photos through a space time barrier, through this bubble that's been created.

And this warp bubble is the key to that technology. And what's also extraordinary about it is, as these scientists say, this technology, this ability to generate this immense amount of energy in a localized area and create this warp bubble. It is, in their opinion, the key to interstellar travel. It's the key to basically the next chapter for humanity. Right? It's a solution to the energy crisis. They are creating immense amount of energy and they're tapping in energy that we haven't figured out how to tap into yet, right? That could solve one of the biggest problems humanity has, the energy crisis. It could set up future generations for a much better life. And then, you know, in terms of, you know, opening a door to interstellar travel, they could just expand, you know, mankind's exploration of the galaxy. The possibilities are limitless. One of the other things, big big things talked about with regard to technology is once we start making this information known to academia and the scientific community, then they can put their brain power towards it. And who knows what else comes off the back of that?

You know, the space race was a single mission to get to the moon, right? But the process led to something like 35,000 other inventions coming off the back of it that have benefited us, like things we don't even think. about like, you know, I think Velcro and microwaves and like things we use. Yeah, right? And you don't know what will come off the back of something like this. So, so yeah, that sequence in the film is one of my favorite sequence of the film because the two people who speak are incredibly intelligent.

They're quantum physicists. They worked as senior scientists on these classified UAP programs for the government. And they're just straight up revealing how this technology works. and it's stated in such a simple way that you don't need to be a rocket scientist to follow it, you know? And it all makes sense, and it's really inspiring.

How has the UFO community, I would be considered a normie, right? Like, when I said how much I loved your film, your documentary, you know, a few people push back, oh, now the normies are talking about it. But, I can sense, because you're getting such legitimate corporate discussion, nightly news, major cable programs.

Joe Rogan has always had a great interest in this. But because you're getting so much credit and so much discourse and discussion, has there been any pushback from, you know, nobody's ever done this. everybody's ever had 34 senior intelligence officials. And the documentary beyond that is so brilliantly made. Thank you. Has there been any pushback or have you been universally accepted and celebrated? Well, look, I think before the movie came out, I certainly dealt with some people who were causing problems for me behind the scenes.

And there were a number of people who wished this movie didn't exist, wish I hadn't made it, wish it wouldn't get released. I overcame all that and obviously got the movie out there. I think that the response to the film has been so overwhelmingly supportive. And as you said, in an unprecedented way, is getting serious news coverage. And I was on Jake Tapper on CNN. Yes. Hannity and Brett Barr on Fox. And New York Times did a big piece about a secret screening I held for Congress a couple

weeks ago, how important that was. And so I think all of that is making people realize how important this is. And it's overcoming those who would want to cause problems. But there are still bad actors on social media. I'm aware of people who are paid bad actors who are actually on social media, paid to just wake up every morning and disparage this film and the people in it. Yes. Take shots at it.

And that's a very real thing. They're not the smoothest operators because once you realize they're doing it. I can tell. I mean, some of it's so obvious. You're like, no one spends this much time ragging on the same thing unless it's their job. and guess what, it is your job? You know, like, so, but you know what? I think the reality of it is, the good guys win in the end,

and, you know, the truth will prevail. And this film is 34 people, arm in arm, putting their credibility on the line to share their truth. And I think ultimately that that's any of these bad actors on social media, just making up disparaging negative stuff, I just think it's noise and the truth is the truth is going to win. And, you know, speaking of 34 people, the thing everyone's got to remember,

This day and age, you could put a 4K video of that giant craft that went over Vandenberg online, and half the human population will think it's AI. They'll be like, oh, some Hollywood producer made that with visual effects or this or that, right? But people, credible people with amazing resumes and lots of credibility, putting their name and reputation on the line and going on camera on the record, revealing this information. To me, that is the strongest evidence you could hope. for, and I think it's going to ultimately overshadow any bad actors online who are, you know,

saying disparaging things. Only 27% of the ocean is mapped. Many of these videos, these craft, have been in and out of the water. There's two or three that are more prominent that I think almost everybody listening to this will have seen. Were there discussions with any of the people that you talk to? that believe that's their primary base on this planet? Or is it something they can, you know, they can activate, they can hide?

Or does it go deeper than that? Sometimes, by the way, when you do a documentary, there's some stuff that may be interesting, but doesn't make the cut. You guys didn't spend a ton of time on the ocean. And my take is because you didn't want a six-hour documentary. But in, but when you talk to these, intelligence officials, the 34 people, is there a sense that there are bases, a base,

or there's a lot more activity in the infrequently mapped oceans that's going on? Yeah, there's an enormous amount of activity of oceans that I've learned about. And yes, the only reason I didn't go deeper into the ocean is just because I had to get this documentary under two hours where people would kill me. But yes, so everyone I interviewed, was of the same mindset and thought that the most obvious place for the UAP to hide is the ocean, because the majority of our planet is the ocean, and it's the easiest place to hide from humanity. On top of that, there's been a lot of activity recorded by our military and talents committee under the ocean. There have been reports of craft the size of football fields, again, moving at hundreds of miles an hour under the ocean,

which is not something we have the capability to do, you know, and it's extraordinary. There are definitely hot spots. There are. Congressman Tim Burchett actually recently talked about it publicly in an interview that there's four or five hotspots that are believed to be either maybe their bases, maybe it's just a lot of activity there. We don't know. That's yet to come out, but there's a lot of activity out of the ocean.

And that's also, you know, for people who haven't really looked in this topic and they hear, okay, now people are calling UFOs UAP. Why did that change happen? The primary change is UFO stood for unidentified flying object. UAP stands for unidentified anomalous phenomena. And that is because it covers activity under the ocean and not just in the sky. Because the things underwater are not flying technically, right? Yeah.

But there is a tremendous amount of UAP activity in our oceans. And as Congressman Carson, one of the senior members of Congress in my film reveals, they have lots of reports of these craft coming out of the ocean. And as he says, these aren't rockets, they're not aircraft, they're otherworldly things. He literally says that on camera. And he's a very senior member of Congress. He's on the House Intelligence Committee. He was on the House Committee for the Central Intelligence Agency.

Really smart, senior thoughtful guy. Yeah. So there's a there there. There's a real situation and it's fascinating. The volume. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.

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