The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts- Remembering Pete Rose, Chiefs Keep Winning Ugly, Commanders Best In NFC? Betting Week 5 In The NFL

Episode Date: October 5, 2024

Colin reacts to the Atlanta Falcons stunning the Buccaneers in OT in what he calls the one of the best Thursday Night Football games he’s ever seen ((3:00)! He also reacts to the Mets beating the Brewers and why the matchups in the MLB playoffs couldn’t be better(9:00)! Then, he reflects on the life of Pete Rose and why he feels Pete should get into the Hall of Fame posthumously (11:15) Then, he’s joined by John MiddleKauff, host of “3 and Out” to break down the Bears finally finding the formula on offense (27:30), why Jayden Daniels is the perfect quarterback for OC Kliff Kingsbury’s system (34:00) and how the Chiefs are able to keep winning ugly (40:00) Colin’s joined by Danny Parkins, host of “Breakfast Ball” on FS1 to debate whether Eagles head coach Nick Sirriani is completely over his skis (51:15), who the definitive #2 best NFL head coach is (58:00), and whether Geno Smith could win a Super Bowl (01:02:00). Finally Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice week 5 of the NFL season! 01:12:00 - Brows vs Commanders 01:15:00 - Vikings vs Jets 01:16:45- Bills vs Texans 01:19:00 - Rams vs Packers 01:22:00 - Giants vs Seahawks 01:24:30 - Steelers vs Cowboys 01:26:45  - Saints vs Chiefs 01:29:00  - Broncos vs Raiders (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I lost count. Jeez, what a night. I'm doing this on the fly here. I'm just looking 36.30. Yeah, Baker 19 to 24, three touchdowns. Listen to these numbers for Kirk Cousins. 42 of 58, four touchdowns, 509 yards. Colin, I can't believe Atlanta.

Paid Kurt Cousins and drafted Michael Panics. It should be fired. You having two quarterbacks is terrible thing in the NFL, just terrible. So first of all, that game was crazy. October has arrived and so is offense. I mean, this just shows you how close this league is. So Atlanta, I mean, you know, they get, Darnel Mooney drops that ball six minutes left and you're thinking,

they just blew it, wide open Darnel Mooney. But Rahe Morris, like good, coaches kept his timeout. They were able to stop Tamp on that drive, timeout, timeout, timeout, get it back, ball punted in the end zone, get it back. And this is what Captain Kirk does. He's a professional quarterback. And this shows you. We talked about this on FS1 today, the middle class quarterbacks. You know, your upper crust is five or six guys. And then you get into, look at all these middle class quarterbacks. Andy Dalton, Sam Darnold, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield, Kirk Cousins is on the higher end of that,

but you don't pay him a fortune. And make good money, Kirk makes good money. But look at all the quarterbacks that don't make the biggest money. Kirk Cousins, a lot of weapons, Baker, Godwin, Mike Evans, Gino, Darnold. Notice that? If you're going to have a B to a B plus quarterback and you don't pay him, DAC money, look at the weapons. Dax's a B plus quarterback A-minus.

you pay them big money, they got one receiver. Okay. And they can't have, they probably got afford Devante Adams, but they have the worst running back room in the league and the worst run defense. So if you're going to pay a quarterback, the Mahomes money, Josh Allen Lamar, I'm for it. But that's why Kansas City never has a fully formed wide receiver group.

But that game tonight's just, I mean, I got notes here. I've been watching it for hours and I'm sitting here and forget my notes. It was just a great, wild, NFC. South football game, and you were watching two really good quarterbacks. You know, it's funny about Baker Mayfield. We talked about this today on the show. If you give Baker a pocket in Atlanta doesn't have much of a pass rush. I think Al Michael said tonight, or Kirk Herbstreet said tonight that they just, all season

long, they have generated like no pass rush in the first half. And I forget what the stat was, but you give Baker time to throw and let him step into it. Dude's got a big arm. Same with Gino Smith, big arm. And Kirk Cousins doesn't have that arm. But his ability to milk the clock, he is a classic professional quarterback. He is just a pro. That final drive is just so smart.

You know what I mean? And give Atlanta backs and receivers Kyle Pitts credit out of bounds. Get out of bounds. That's a team. You know, Rahim Morris got that job in Tampa, wasn't quite ready for it, goes eventually to Sean McVeigh. They become tight friends. Watches McVeigh.

He becomes a very offensive friendly, defensive. coach, like D'Amico Ryans with Kyle Shanahan, a very offensive, friendly, defensive coach. D'Miko Ryans, Rahim Morris, watch those teams situationally with their offense. You know, I thought just the way Atlanta preserved their timeouts tonight in the game they could have easily lost, you don't waste timeouts, they had them late. You know, it was funny. When they gave the ball to Kirk Cousins, I forget, it was like a minute 26 left. And I'm thinking, you know, he's not Brady, but I'm thinking.

this is Kirk, they'll be fine, they'll get into field goal range. You know, I mean, you got, and something has happened in the NFL, I can't explain it. It's happened overnight. 50-yard field goals are suddenly no big deal. No idea. I have no idea what's happened. But, I mean, this thing tonight, it's just like 53-yard field goals are made with ease. So, God, the NFL's crazy.

The New York Mets, I don't think they have the talent of the Padres over. overall or the Dodgers or probably the Yankees. But the fact that Pete Alonzo, you know, he's a classic slugger. He goes into extended slumps, home run derby guy, hits the biggest home run of his career tonight in the ninth for the Mets as they go on to beat the Brewers. But this is what's crazy about it. So the New York Mets have been a franchise since 1962. I went and looked it up. And that was like Casey Stingle, Polo Grounds, 1962.

The Philadelphia Phillies were formed in the late 1800s. So the first baseball team ever, the Cincinnati Red Stockings, it was like 1869. Well, the Phillies were in the National League like 15 years later. I mean, I think they were playing on a street corner. I mean, who knows? I don't know. Was it Connie Mack Stadium or something like that? I don't know.

Some baseball historian will know it. So just think about that. The Phillies have been around since the 1800s. The Mets have been around since 1962. I'm reading it on a piece of paper right now. The Phillies have been to eight world series. These two teams, Mets Phillies, rivals, have never met in the playoffs. What?

They have never met in the playoffs. Before tonight, have you ever wanted to win a beer at a bar with trivia? They've never met in the playoffs. I think the Phillies are the better team. But, you know, the Mets have been red hot since mid-June, a lot of come from behind victories. and there is a magic to it. You know, these teams, I mean, there's a reason you've heard comeback kids, cardiac kids. You see it in football and baseball all the time.

They're just these teams that get on roles. They're very comfortable playing from behind. They often have power in the lineup. So, I mean, listen, outside of the NFL, almost all sports are somewhat dependent on who gets into the finals. You know, your Wimbledon's going to be rated higher if it has its biggest stars in it. You know, the U.S. Open in golf, obviously, Tiger and some of the big hitters now, Brooks Kepka can drive a number. Nobody questions that. Or it's the Masters or the U.S. Open at Pebble Beach or Pinehurst. Obviously, there are, you know, Ohio State meet to Texas

in a national championship. That's going to get a 20. Buckeyes and Longhorns have two of the biggest, most rabid fan bases. You know, Michigan last year playing for a natty, got a huge rating. It matters situationally. Well, kind of bulletproof beyond brand. So, I mean, Green Bay is one of your more popular franchises. So was Pittsburgh, and they're considered smaller markets. But in baseball, Mets, Phillies, that's who Major League Baseball sent over to London to play. Anyway, that wasn't a marquee big power hitters, marquee, big major markets, and Padres, Dodgers,

which is a really, it used to be Dodgers San Francisco, but the Padres Dodgers over the last four or five years become a great, great series. you know, Dodgers, Big Brother, Padres, Little Brother, but the Padres now, they pay like, I mean, they have a salary cap that feels more Boston than it does historically San Diego. So that's going to be a great series. The National League, I mean, Major League Baseball could not have picked four better teams to get in. So Pete Rose passed away, the hit king. You can't talk about Pete Rose. When I first got into this business, and it was a slow day in June or June.

July or August. If you wanted to get phone calls, I mean, it was, and maybe this was 15, 20 years ago, but if you wanted to get phone calls, Pete Rose Hall of Fame, yay or nay. Pete wasn't an honest man. He was also a fairly complicated guy. You know, I just ended up watching a documentary on Pete Rose, and I forget the streaming service it was on. So when I grew up, my favorite team in the 1970s was the Cincinnati Red. So I'm sure if you've listened to me for years, you know that. You know, let off with Pete Rose, then Ken Grissy, Griffey batted second. Then it was Joe Morgan and a Johnny bench, George Foster, Tony Perez, Dan Drieson. I mean, I could go to the backup catcher, Bill Plummer, Cesar Geronimo, Dave Concepcio, National League pitchers hit Jack Billings. Fred Norman couldn't hit. Jack Billingham couldn't hit. None of the Reds pitchers could hit, but it didn't really matter because they had the big red machine.

They had this incredibly powerful offense. and Pete Rose was the engineer of all of it. He wasn't, didn't have power, didn't run particularly well, but he was Charlie Hustle. And so, you know, when I was a kid growing up, two of my favorite baseball players were Pete Rose and George Brett of the Kansas City Royals because of how they played. Now, Brett, I thought was the better athlete and hit with more power and was a very, very elite third baseman. So George Brett to me always looked like the better athlete, hit with power. But Pete and George Brett played with the same kind of intensity in place. And passion that it just, when I was a kid in the 70s, it just jumped through the TV set. So you couldn't watch baseball, which was a much bigger deal and had much greater social currency in the 70s than it does now. NFL is king, and there's nothing, you know, even close. But baseball in the 70s, you know, the NBC Saturday game of the week, Phillies and the pirates and the Reds and the Dodgers were just star-studded teams. And it was just can't miss stuff. I was a National League kid over an American League kid, and my first job at a college was broadcasting AAA baseball, one inning of the Las Vegas stars.

So I was really a baseball guy because, you know, at that time, you know, I was playing Little League Baseball. Maybe it was. And baseball marketed and had big stars. I mean, it's hard to name 10 baseball players that obviously there's Aaron Judge and Mookie Betts and Otani. And, you know, there's a handful of stars. But it just felt different in the 70s that I. it does now. And I love Pete Rose. And then Pete Rose goes to the Phillies and, you know, he's a character. But baseball in the 70s had characters. You know, Mark Fiddrich and Mickey Rivers and Pete Rose. I mean, the owner, Charlie Finley of the A's was a character. And for some reason, baseball started sort of getting into this in the 90s and beyond sort of a, there's a way to play the game, the stewards of baseball. And it felt like it was just sucking the fun out of

baseball. And in the 70s, Al Roboski, the Madhungarian for the Cardinals, number 39, the reliever, there was just all this big, crazy, wild personality in baseball. And you just don't feel like you get it today. You get it more in other sports. But, you know, in terms of Pete and gambling, I think I've probably changed my opinion. I think I was more dogmatic about it early. But over the course of time, he's the hit king. And, I mean, we've got a sport where, you know, we've got a sport which was laden with all sorts of steroid use and abuse. And nobody really knows. Remember when they did the Mitchell report

and what a circus that was? So it was the Mitchell report, and they've got a significant amount of their information from like three clubhouses on the East Coast. Well, if you'd have done the Angels, the A's, the Padres, and the Mariner clubhouses, you'd have had different stories. And so, you know, baseball,

Major League Baseball was so late on steroids, it may have started with Ken Kameniti, the former San Diego Padre power hitting third baseman. Did it start with Conceco? I don't really know the genesis of it. But, I mean, so much of baseball has an asterisk. And, you know, I kind of look at Pete Rose, and I think he didn't really change the outcome of his hits.

And so as a baseball player, Pete was, he was intense. He wasn't always up front from his personal to his professional life, but I can't take away what he did as a player. I just have so many fond memories of his style, of his effort, of his passion, the Ray Fosse Collision at Home Plate. Everything about Pete was intensity, and I appreciated it as a kid. And I think as I've gotten older as a sportscaster, I'm a, I still, I think, have a lot of passion for the business, but I'm not as dogmatic on issues. You know, I've had kids. People make mistakes. I make mistakes. So I posthumously, I would vote him into the Hall of Fame.

There's a lot of characters in the Hall of Fame. You know, years and years ago, I worked for a news director named Mike Culler. And, you know, he had one of the days we were talking about some issue in sports, for all I know it was Pete Rose. And if I recall, Mike was more of a Midwest guy. And it may have been we were talking about Pete Rose. And he said, you know, you don't know what you don't know about people. when everybody was judging Tiger Woods for his affair or affairs in his marriage, and I thought, oh, give me a break. Really? I mean, it's pretty legendary. Some of the great golfers of all time,

and some of the most beloved figures in golf were hounds. I mean, so, you know, what we have in society today, and I see this all the time, people with no real insider sourcing have the strongest opinions. and I've gotten over time kind of a little bit more forgiving on it because the more I've learned through the years and the more sources I've had on different stories, the less I realize I know. When I was in my 20s and 30s, I didn't have that many sources and thought I knew everything. And now as I get older and I'm in my 50s and now I'm 60, I have more sources and more contacts and more knowledge than I've ever had. And to me, it just kind of illustrates how little I know.

Is there so many things going on. I'm watching this Vince McMahon documentary right now. And I have friends connected to the WWE. And you'll hear a lot if you watch this documentary on Netflix about Vince McMahon. It's not the half of it. It is not the half of it. So we live in a world with social media now where people have strong opinions and don't really have a ton of insight.

or sourcing on stuff. So I look at Pete Rose and I think he was a great player. He was the hit king. I'd let him in. That doesn't mean I have the strongest affection for his character or his personality and the things he did. Life's complex. People are complex. I can admire your achievements and not think much of you, your character. I mean, we live in a country right now with Donald Trump. I've vacationed with conservatives. I've got conservatives. I've got conservatives. friends, they'll vote Republican. They don't like Trump. Things are more complex. We tend to want things diff-wrapped and in tiny boxes, and that's just not, as I got older, it's just not how life is. You have to sacrifice. You have to be forgiving. And I know it's the Baseball

Hall of Fame, but the truth is all this stuff is subjective. And I'd vote Pete Rose into the Hall of fame. I think there's a lot of unscrupulous people in Hall of Fames. There could be some bad people voting on Hall of Fames. I'd let him in. But he left an indelible mark on me just as a baseball player, the way he played the game. George Brett, Pete Rose, one National League, one American League. They just played at a different level with intensity. And it's in my head today. I can close my eyes and think of images of Pete Rose, barreling over catchers and sliding into third. I don't remember. I didn't see it live, the Buddy Harrelson story with the Mets, the fight that broke out. I don't remember that. I've just seen YouTube clips and pictures of it,

but that sort of defined sort of Pete Rose. And as I watched, you know, the Netflix special on him, he was a Cincinnati kid through and through. And I'd been in his presence four or five times, was in his presence four or five times. He was hard not to like. He was funny. He'd let it rip. He was sometimes, you know, borderline inappropriate with the things. things he would say, but he had a great love for the sport of baseball. And it's a sport which hasn't felt the same to me since the 70s and 80s. It just doesn't have the social currency it used to have. I mean, I saw a story this week where, and I forget who reported on it, it may have been Andrew Marshan at the New York Post, that ESPN is considering moving Jeff Passen,

their storybreaker in baseball to the NBA. I'm like, what? They're struggling as a sport to get networks to latch on to another big contract. The Apple TV baseball deal didn't work. The Roku deal was kind of embarrassing. Baseball got $30 million for a TV contract. ESPN and Fox don't feel like they want to go all in on baseball. And to me, in my life, Pete takes me back to a time when I was a young kid. And it was my favorite sport, the 70s and the 80s. And I can name infields and pitching staffs back then. And Pete was a part of that. taking it to the house, in for six, whatever you call a touchdown, one thing's for sure. TDs matter more at Draft King's Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL.

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Every drive for the Rams feels like it has to be like a 70-play drive. But I thought Caleb Williams today, speaking of the North. Now, again, the Rams weren't fully staffed. But I thought Caleb Williams today with a run game. So Swift had, I think, seven catches. They had 125 yards rushing. Therefore, the offensive line was better because the defense had to be honest. I thought Caleb looked, and again, they had these young quarterbacks.

Even Jaden Daniels can struggle with this. You know, the motion penalties, they go on the road or it's loud. I mean, even Jordan Love, Aaron Rogers today, the Jets had five of them. That's tough. I thought Caleb today looked, feet were better, poised, O-line better, and he had a run game. And it's like, yeah, that's, I thought Caleb played really well. Yeah, I mean, I still think he misses some passes that he definitely hit a lot in college. I don't want to call them layups, but there were a couple today, a DJ Moore down the sideline.

But this is the formula for a young quarterback, 130 yards on the ground and 23 attempts. you know what they did last week 50 attempts when the majority of the game is within a score is insanity it's one thing when you got paid Manning or Aaron Rogers and you're not setting the guy up for success

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depend on you to help this young guy out. And he just, listen, you don't turn the ball over. The reason we talk about turnover so much and hear coaches talk, because at these NFL games, even early in the slate, you're like, this seven games going on right now is terrible. Half of them are all tight in the fourth quarter. So you give the ball away, it's pretty devastating. And he doesn't throw a pick. And you're only throwing the ball 23 times.

Like, that's a successful strategy against, you know, most teams that you're going to play. But you cannot ask this guy to throw the ball 50 times a game and think that's conducive to winning. Not with the guy playing the fourth game of his career. Who has a little hero ball syndrome to him? Yes. So when you're asking him to do it a lot, it's going to get a little out of whack. Well, and the interesting thing, the tricky thing for Chicago is, and you saw it again today, Iber Fluse's defense situationally is pretty good.

Matt knows what he's doing on that side of the ball. Now, Cliff Kingsbury obviously knows what he's doing on the offensive side of the ball. You're watching right now a masterclass. But a lot of these guys who are great. Some guys are vice president. Some guys are CEOs. Clearly, Iber Fluse knows defense because you have to, they don't give you a lot of freebies. The Rams today, again, they had didn't have Cooper, Puka, so it makes it really difficult.

But when I watch Chicago today, I guess the word I would use is the one you used formula. I'm like, oh, yeah, this will work. They played even when they led, it was just the off. It's just amazing. What a decent. It doesn't, you don't have to rush for 200 yards. 130. Just Swift popped about five runs, several catches.

And it just, that's the formula. I still think this is going to be a seven-win team. But John, it will feel better than last year's seven-win team. You'll look at it and go, oh, we didn't have Keenan for a bunch of games. The defense is excellent. It feels, when I watch Caleb play and Justin Fields, I feel sometimes Justin Fields is, he's lost. Caleb's wildly talented. He just sometimes misses easy throws, but I kind of, I feel like today a couple of times,

his expression doesn't change. He doesn't get down. There was a couple of the clocks winding down. I just felt, I just felt Caleb felt under control today. Yeah, he definitely was less frenetic than the last couple weeks. And that's where Jaden has really thrived. You're like, does this guy even get, is he unflappable? But one thing that you just mentioned, he's got going for him and they've been hammered

all year is Brian Robinson, the running back from Texas is a really good player. Hand the ball off to him. And that just calms everyone down. And the bears were not able to run the ball. I think the problem, though, big picture if the bears only end up with seven or eight, You know, you just got coaching flux, then you got new coordinators, then you got more movement. I mean, that's just always an issue whenever we talk about young quarterbacks and just young teams in general because they do have a lot of talents. But if you couldn't win this game, Colin, the Rams, you know, understaffed coming off a big win so, you know, they can inhale a little bit.

That 10 a.m. kickoff for a West Coast team long trip. This was, if you're not winning this game, you're probably, instead of of heading for seven or eight, might be headed for five or six. So this was a big game for Chicago at home, quiet the crowd a little bit because the fans are like, what the hell's going on here? Partly because the expectations were so high. That's why think about with Jaden Daniels, both of them, I mean, these guys went one, two, both of them won the last two Heismans, but the expectations for Jaden weren't nearly as high as Caleb just because of the avalanche hype really over the course of his college career from

three years ago when he came in for Spencer Rattler in a Kansas game and ripped the ball out of the guy's hands. And you watch Jaden Daniels and you go, I don't know how you could look much better just in terms of calm, poise, deep ball accuracy, accuracy across the field, just zero freak out whenever there's a rush, throwing guys open. Like to me right now, and it's not apples to apples or playing on different teams. his offensive coordinator is clearly better. They sculpted an offense around him that just fits. He's in the shotgun, but Kingsbury has added a more physical run game by adding to Anthony Lynn, who they stole from the Niners, who's kind of an old school running back guy, and it's just working.

And I don't know how many games, how good their defense is, ultimately the Cardinals might just suck. But just if you just watch him independent of everything, you go, holy shit, this guy's, this guy's got a lot going for him. My surprise team in the NFL was Washington. I didn't look very smart after they got trounced by Tampa, but it looks good now. So it's really, I was talking to Steve Kime. I had dinner with him the other night.

And, you know, people forget Kime, two-time executive year. He had a really tough owner to deal with. And Kyler was very difficult. Kyler just doesn't watch enough film, and it's been an issue. I've supported him, but it's an issue. But I was talking to him about Cliff, and he said, listen, he said, Cliff now has tried head coaching twice. It hasn't worked. He says, but when you sit down with him and interview him, the reason he got head coaching jobs, he's really a brilliant guy. He's just not

a, he's, he's not a disciplinarian. Things got a little loose, right? Like, like it would get loose. But Kime told me when he went to Washington, he goes, that Jaden Daniels kid could not literally get a better guy. First of all, he's not a yell or no screamer. He's a teacher. He's fun. He likes to make it fun. He watches what you do, manufactures an offense based solely on what you do. And because Jaden moved, Cliff was banging on the table for this guy. He's like, guys, just, I don't want to hear about J.J. McCarthy. This is the guy. This is the guy. So he went all in on this. Adam Peters, the new GM, Dan Quinn. They listened to Cliff. Cliff was like, this is it. And it's just, this is very true. Brian Flores is the best defensive coordinator in football. His personality got a

in the way of his coaching as a head coach. Cliff's personality, the opposite of Flores. It's not intense. He doesn't bark. He doesn't discipline. Cliffs the opposite. So Flores and Kingsbury are the antithesis of each other, but in both instances, one guy is too intense or was, and one guy doesn't want to manage in discipline, and you have to do some of it. But Flores and Kingsbury are A-plus-plus-plus at what they do. And that we see this all over the world. Some guys are to salesmen. Some guys can be the president but couldn't sell anything. It's just the way the world works. When I watch that offense today, it's crazy. I don't remember seeing an offense. They're not fooling people. What they're basically doing is they're winning the math game. They've just

looked like, I mean, these runs, John, these running backs aren't having to create anything off contact. They're getting four and five yards runs before anybody initiates contact. It just it just looks so easy. Maybe I'm waiting for them to struggle and get into a fistfight, but it's like they're just, it's just up, down seven on seven. I've been saying this for a long time.

The best part about the NFL, in most industries, you know, people fight and claw in the private sector and different corporations to try to sit the head of the table because it's so much more lucrative than a lot of different management spots. But in football,

the number two spot, whether you're the offensive or defensive coordinator, especially on a team where the head coach is the opposite, pays you like $2 to $5 million. And you have no responsibility when someone gets injured, when someone gets a DUI, when who knows what happens, which we've all followed the NFL long enough, literally everything happens.

Ain't your problem. You're still getting paid $3 million. And it's got to be one of the best jobs in America. It's still, you spend a lot of time. it's a lot of work. But in terms of the amount of money you're getting paid and the amount when you're great, like Flores or Kingsbury, whoever, the best coordinator, Steve Spagnola. And none of the responsibilities on you.

And you basically, in those guys individual spots, they kind of get to be the head coach of their group, right? Kevin O'Connell's not telling Flores what to do. Dan Quinn's not telling Kingsbury. It's an incredible gig. Now, I understand there's a big difference between $3 million and $14 million or $10 million. but some of these guys, especially once they've tried it, like you could do this for a long period of time and just become a legend doing this. Like where is Cliff?

I would imagine maybe not the NFL, but like over the next couple of years, colleges are going to call them again, right? Yeah. And they pay a lot. I think 40 guys make over $4 million. I mean, you make a lot of money and you don't have to answer to anybody. Hard to get a better gig than that that he's got going right now, right? And I'd say the same thing for Flores.

I do think Flores is going to battle, you know, like you said, did you see the viral clip of Kyle lighting into Brandon Ayuk for wearing the wrong shorts? I know. It came out on Friday. Brandon Ayuk came to practice with the wrong shorts. You know, in the regular season, only like the press is only allowed there out there for 15 minutes. So it was the only time they were out there. And Kyle went up to him and lit him up.

I mean, it was kind of embarrassing for Iyuk. Like there's a dress code. He has the different shorts than literally the entire team. And that's type stuff. You know, some coaches, like one thing I heard about Cliff is like, oh, just let that fly, let that go. And you can't. Like, that ain't flying.

And Kyle's not, you know, Belichick here, but it's hard being, like, that's on you as a head coach, little things, like the wrong socks, right? And I think Flores, dealing with the quarterback, because that is kind of like the heartbeat of the organization, is not really going to be anything he's going to be able to answer as a coordinator. But eventually, if you're that good, you know, someone's going to give. him another because he's he's not good i mean he right now he's elite like you said yes defense more than offense too it's usually about like you got the jimmies and the joes and i'm who do they got

harrison smiths like my age i mean who who what are they john randle's not on the defensive line what are they rolling out there in minnesota right so it's those two guys right now you talk coordinators of the year through four weeks i mean it's brian flores and cliff kingsbury kicking everybody's ass i feel like every kansas city game now looks the same every one is that, you know, they'll fall in a hole, or you'll watch them early and you're thinking, this isn't the Sunday. They just, they're just not. And then Rishi Rice gets hurt very early. And I'm like, they're on the road. They're out of sync. Chargers had multiple sacks. And then they just slow, and I think so much of this is Andy Reed and specs, they just slow the game down.

They're really good at killing momentum. Mojom's had a couple of big runs. He had a couple of beautiful passes. Kelsey was more visible today and available. Obviously, with Rishie Rice out, Travis Kelsey becomes more available. But there is something about Kansas City is that we tend to love Flash, like Darnold's numbers. Yeah. And I like Kansas City, but I ask you,

if they played Minnesota tomorrow, I would take Kansas City. What are we supposed to make of this team that isn't pretty? Every single game is close. It doesn't matter who the opponent is. They don't start necessarily well. They always end great. Do you worry at all that Kansas City is sort of following in this?

It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's they're just winning the same way. And they're not playing particularly well for long periods of time. Yeah, I feel like Spags and Andy are just like, you know, you fill up the refrigerator and they're making meal after meal. And every time they're using different ingredients, you're like, how are you doing this? Eventually, if you don't go to the store, you're going to run out stuff to make food with. And today, after Mahomes, he threw a pretty bad pick early in the game. A terrible one.

And then he hit, he didn't mean to. But Rishoree Rice is their best receiver. And he kind of ended up hitting him like he's John Lynch because he was trying to make a tackle. Might have blown out his knee. Like that's, so you let's just hypothetically say he's gone for a long period of time or the season. That's pretty devastating. They were playing with Kareem Hunt. This is not 2018.

He's back on the team because they're starting running back, just. broke his leg. And the other kid from Missouri, his own family threw a wedding last Sunday because they didn't even think the guy was going to be an NFL player. So I just, I don't know, like, it's remarkable what they're doing. And they've been playing like this basically for two and a half years now. It does feel eventually like, I love these guys. And they are, it's truly one of the great runs of my lifetime, any sport, what they're rattling off now over this five years, but specifically these two years. I don't know how you can maintain this.

Eventually you're going to, obviously, they're going to lose some games this year. But like they're margin for error in a playoff game. It's just very, very difficult for them to score. And Mahomes cannot, and you saw Andy get kind of mad early, you cannot turn the ball over. You know, and I think Andy felt right away, like this Charger team came to play.

This is Jim Harbaugh. They're ready. Like, this could be 15 to 13 final score and he air mails it and steel fumbles. And it's like, you could tell Andy was pissed because this has to be a flawless we hold on to the ball, even if we're going to score 14 points total. Okay, we'll win at 14 to 10. We can't hand them the ball at their own 30-yard line. And I think if the two tackles are there, Chiefs easily could have lost today.

I mean, they are holding on. It's competitive character, the toughness. It's what you get out of like some of those late 90s Bulls teams, some of those Curry Clay, Draymond teams. Like, it's only, they're the only team in the league that has this in the back to keep doing this. Like, eventually you just drop a game, whatever. And they just, they refuse to lose. They got nothing. I mean, their best receivers carted off the field five minutes into the game.

They're riding Kareem Hunt, who I'm pretty sure wasn't even in the league like three weeks ago. But they had no choice because their other guy broke his leg. Yeah, no, as I watched that game, they got, I mean, listen, they got a, they got an injury break. The chargers are missing tackles, Abosa, Derwin, Jay. They were missing their best athletes defensively. And it's the NFL, you have to make up for that. But as I watch them, you know, they're going for a third. It's a tough opponent for that because their defense, Chris Jones and Spags, they just kept on any long, third long, they would just put 95 over one of the tackles, even though he's a defensive tackle.

So it's like, I just become a defensive. They wouldn't do that with Alton Slater in the game. That's right. So it was a total mismatch. You're just kind of screwed. And I think what they do with Chris Jones, there's no rigidity with the chiefs. Like, you know, the saying I use all the time at the volume to everybody is, don't worry about being right, get it right. Don't get stubborn on stuff.

It's a fluid business change. The chiefs, like you said, they go into the cupboard and whatever's available they use. Like they're not a rigid franchise, which, by the way, New England became in their dominance. I mean, Belichick basically took over the drafts. Belichick only wanted to coach players he liked to coach. They got very rigid. They started buying into their own stuff. And by the way, Greg Popovich, you know, I'm not going to deal with Kauai.

Well, you probably should, he's great. The danger of the danger, one of the things I always respect about Sabin, he just kept hiring great coaches. He went from a defensive culture to a quarterback wide receiver culture. Saban was just like, whatever wins wins. And I always said that that's really different with Sabin. He doesn't have Belichick's ego. He was willing to just pivot off guys, move into guys.

I mean, good God, in the middle of a national championship game, he changes quarterbacks. Saban was whatever wins works. I feel with Andy Reid, I get that. I get, I don't feel like there's this definitive sort of moral standard, this saying, you know, just do your job. Kansas City doesn't have one of those. They don't have a do-your job, right? They don't have one. They just, they do what they have to do in the series to score.

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All right, so I occasionally bring Danny Parkins on FS1, but we can kind of stretch things out here and go for 45 minutes to an hour on the volume, which I really like and talk about a bunch of different stuff. So you don't want to make sweeping generalizations, but first impressions do matter. They matter a lot. So when Nick Seriani had his first. press conference, it was the worst thing I'd ever seen. Jim Tom Sula's was second. So I had information.

I'd seen Tom Sula's presser. He did an interview after he was hired, and it was a disaster. Tom Sula was a disaster. I'd been told by a source that I really trust, Sariani wasn't ready for the job. They weren't sure he was a great coordinator. And then he had the press conference. And so then he starts coaching. It's really choppy. Shane Stuyken takes over play. calling, it's really good. Shane leaves. It's terrible again. And so, and I think back to the Siriani thing. And so I didn't stick with my belief. Like my take was, okay, Siriani's got it. And now I go back and I look and I think, why did you ever bail on that? Your first impression was right. Now, I will say, Dan Campbell's opening pressure was kind of vintage, a little caveman over the top

Dan Campbell. But the truth is, we don't think he's situationally a great coach. We think he's a culture builder and he was building a culture. So that was aligned with how really he is. And that's why his players play so damn hard. Even his first year when they weren't winning, God, they were playing good teams to the bell. And so I've always watched that opening presser, D'Amico Ryan's, excellent, Sean McVeigh, excellent. Many of the guys, now again, Belichick was actually pretty damn funny at the podium before he got all the rings. Then he turned angry. But I do watch that Wednesday press conference, my legendary or annoying hat on backwards take. Like, I do think that stuff matters. I've had more coaches text me on that in the last 10 years than you would believe

that they do take the Wednesday pressers. I don't want to believe that, but go ahead. I mean, I've had people say, the truth is we tell our guys, this is a big press conference, the bank's behind you, watch what you say. That's a big press conference, the Wednesday quarterback presser. And I do watch press conferences for coaches because it tells me, me, Brady talked and never said anything. Eli Manning talked and never said anything. And they turned out being two of the smartest quarterbacks of all time. So one of my takes is, I know it's a generalization, but I do take snippets from coaches, the podium. As a member of the media, I watch interactions. Kenny Pickett had a comment at a press conference a year ago. I'm not going to repeat it. It

was about some body part of his, and I was like, oh, Jesus, this guy can't, nope, he doesn't get it. Like, this doesn't work at all. Whether or not you agree with backward hat, the premise of making a judgment for high priority positions on brief snippets. Now, we do this with politicians freely, liberally, and with conviction. Do you buy it for sports? To a point, I think that Grading press conferences at times is something that the media does and puts too much emphasis on because it is something that we can relate to and we can understand. We are good public speakers. We know how to speak into a microphone.

We know how to say interesting things. We don't know how to run the West Coast offense. We don't know how to block a 300-pound guy who, runs a four or five. And so I think that there is some degree of they're playing our game. They're answering our questions. They're in front of our microphones in front of our cameras. So they're on our turf. So let's judge them at our game because it's something that we are obviously better at and understand and are trained for. We're the pros in that arena. So I do think sometimes we overrate it. But that is not to, I say all of that to then say,

to your point, sometimes when I see a guy up there, I'm like, there's just no way that he can command a room. Right. You know, or like, there's no way that his players are not making fun of him behind his back

or whatever the conclusion is. So I'm not, it's not a hard and fast rule of Matt Eberflus, Bears coach. I think he's a nice guy who listens to his, players, but I think he's a little vanilla, a little corny, some dad jokes.

I mean, I've had guys say, like, yeah, you know, dad joke, grandpa flus. Like, we laugh, we laugh at him a little bit, like, not in a mean way, not in a disrespectful way, but I don't believe that he's like all of their guys that they would go to the map for forever. You know, I don't think he's that guy. Dan Campbell very clearly is that guy. His team has taken on the culture of Dan Campbell. I do wonder if there's an expiration date on something like that.

If you give me the great culture builder or the great schematic mind, I'll take the great schematic mind. I'd be interested into knowing what Dan Campbell's team looks like when Ben Johnson takes a head coaching job and a couple of the officers leave. I'd much rather have Kyle Shanahan than Dan Campbell would not even be close for me because I've seen that Kyle. Shanahan can overachieve. So I think that there's obviously something to it. These are billion-dollar organizations. You're representing yourself publicly. It's a glimpse for us into their world.

But I also think, I mean, you know way more coaches than I do. I know plenty. I've covered the NFL for a while. What are their work weeks? 100 hours? 100-plus hour work weeks. Yeah, brutal. They're in front of the camera for an hour a week, post-game, Monday, Wednesday.

So I think we get so much content out of that hour that they're in front of our cameras and microphones that we, by definition, overrate its value because to them, it's 1% of their work week. To us, it's 100% of what we see into the building that isn't broadcast on our TVs on Sunday night, Monday night and Thursday night. So I think it matters, but I think the media overrates it. I look at quarterbacks and coaches the same way. When I look at a quarterback out of college, there's got to be at least one wow. So Daniel Jones has no wow. So it doesn't work for me. Joe Burroughs' accuracy was wow.

Josh Allen's size, Lamar's speed, Jaden Daniels, a little of both. There's a wow. That doesn't mean it's refined. But when I saw Josh Allen first year jump over a linebacker, I'm like, wow. So my first take is up, Tribisky, no wow. Daniel Jones, no wow. E.J. Manuel. No, wow.

Like, if I don't see a wow, it's not going to last. Or you're going to need a perfect coach. That's why I was into Sam Darnold. I was like, oh, I see the wow. He is freaking an athlete with a big arm and he runs over. He's like a poor man's Andrew Luck or maybe a better man's Carson Wentz. Like he's, you know, but we know he's not luck, but I think he's better at his best than Carson Wentz. If I said to you, best coach Andy Reid, is there a definitive to you second best coach in the league?

Because Shanahan's liability has been late game lead evaporation. And there's, I can give you about six different times in big spots. Yeah, you can. But he's the, here's the thing. This is not a formula. It's not something that can be computed. It's just in my own head, a guy who watches damn near every game. I plug into the Matrix for 11 hours on Sunday from,

1 p.m. Eastern to 11.30 p.m. Eastern and then watch Monday night football. And Thursday night football, I just watch it all. I've got to, in my head, how good is your quarterback, how good is your coach, how good is your coordinator, how good is the rest of your roster, how good is your owner, how good is your general manager, how good is your cap space, who's carrying more dead cap money, who's supposed to win this year, who's supposed to be good offensively, who's supposed to be good defensively? And then I have all these factors. And then I'm like, who's overachieving and who's underachieving. So like the Eagles, they spend more money on offense than any team in the league. Number one, in cash spent on the offensive side of the ball. And they have an offensive

head coach. And they have a high profile offensive coordinator. And they're nowhere near the best offense in the league through four games. They are underachieving. That's a big knock for me on Nick Siriani and also Jalen Hertz. He leads the league in turnover since the start of last year. Kyle Shanahan. I've seen the guy in a Super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo. And I've seen him in a Super Bowl with Brock Purdy. And I've seen him in another NFC championship game with Brock Purdy. I saw him trade three first round picks to move up from 13 to three to take an

FCS quarterback. It not work in Trey Lance and then be better the next year. Like he is, it's crazy. what he gets out of, maybe you love Brock Purdy, fine. Maybe his special or his wow is anticipatory throwing, post-snap processing between the years. Fine. We would not have said that at Iowa State. We did not know that. Good job by them. He was literally the last pick in the draft. I don't think they knew it either. There is something to Kyle Shanahan overachieving that impresses me. Sure. More than any. And by the way, I'm consistent on this. Andy Reid, best season of Donovan McNabb's life with Andy Reid, Mike Vicks life, Andy Reid, Jeff

Garcia's life, Andy Reid, Kevin Cobb's life, Andy Reid, Alex Smith's life, Andy Reid. Then he gets the generational talent, 5,000 yards, 50 touchdowns, MVP's, Super Bowl MVP's, rings, dynasties. You know, so like, to me, Andy Reid overachieved with all of those guys. And so that is kind of how I look at coaches, is are you overachieving or underachieving based on your circumstance? And I would put Kyle Shanahan too, because to me, he is the most consistent overachiever without a Hall of Fame quarterback. I'm watching Gino Smith make throws. And if you didn't know it was Gino Smith, the timing routes, the back shoulder stuff. I'm like, I know D.K. MacCaf's good.

But there was a lot of pressure. It was on the road. It was 38 first downs. Defensive head coach and a college offensive coordinator. I'm sitting there like, if Seattle had three of their four defensive front guys, that's a real game. Is Gino a potential hoisted trophy guy? Because damn, he's big. He's strong.

He moves. I mean, Aikman was saying this thing is he has got a heater on this thing. He makes high degree of difficulty throws consistently. He's incredibly impressive. You know what's funny? What I've been thinking about with Gino, this year so far, I think one of the single biggest stories in the NFL, and there are a few, I think, that I just can't really stop thinking about.

But one of them is, we all say that we know that situation matters. It's not just like, what if Mitch Trubisky would have been drafted to Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes would have been drafted to the Bears, right? It's a great what if. What would Mahomes's career look like? What would Trubisky's career look like if Trubisky had Kelsey and Reed and DiRee Kill and that infrastructure sitting behind Alex Smith the whole thing. We like we, I like to play that game on sports radio all the time. We do these unanswerable hypotheticals. Sam Darnold is ball in. Yes. Gino Smith is balling. Justin Fields. Career highs in efficiency. Taking fewer sacks. Taking fewer sacks. turning the ball over less, higher pass rating than any time in his career, higher completion percentage than any time in his career winning 75% of his games. Baker Mayfield has found a home. All of these guys were left for dead. That's right.

So, like, we are all coming out now and saying, oh, of course Minnesota's good. Kevin O'Connell, great coach. Brian Flores, great coach. Can anyone find any member of the media that didn't have them finishing fourth in the division? Four weeks ago. And by the way, me too, guilty as charged. And I covered the NFC North and I've said that Kevin O'Connell's an awesome coach for seven years, like five years, whatever it's been. So can I see Gino hoisting a Lombardi trophy?

Maybe. Like, it's not an anti-Geno point for me to say, no. Like, is the situation good enough for him to do it? It's the NFC. It's not the AFC. Sure. You're right. Now, here's why I love Detroit in that game, though. People were going crazy over 3 in O Seattle and McDonald's coming from Baltimore, our youngest head coach, their defense, the whole thing. I was like, okay, they had beaten Jacoby Berset, Bo Nix, and Skyler Thompson. Right. Like, can we, we, every game matters in the NFL, every week matters, but some teams were judging through the prism of four games. Seattle, new coach. Let's judge him through just this season.

Minnesota, new quarterback. Let's judge them just through the prism of this season. But I judge Detroit, same head coach, same offensive coordinator, same offensive lines, same quarterback, Aidan Hutchinson, Amon Ross St. Brown, Laporta, Gibbs, Montgomery. It's the same team that last year lost by three to the Niners in the NFC championship game and there's one of the five best teams in the NFL all season. They have a 20-plus game body of work to me of being a top five or six team in the NFL. Seattle had three games of beating bad quarterbacks.

So I know that's not exactly an answer on Gino Smith, but I also look at that way. Like Baltimore, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Kansas City, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Like teams that at Buffalo, I picked them to win the AFC East. They've done it the last four years. To me, they deserve the benefit of the doubt. over some of these new-come teams that we're thinking are going to be the hot thing in the moment. So it's the NFC. Gino is slinging it.

But I need to see them actually beat good teams with this defense, with this coach, before I think that they could go. And, I mean, assuming you think San Francisco is going to win that division, they'd have to go, like, at Detroit, you know, maybe at Detroit, at Green Bay, at San Francisco or something like that to win a Super Bowl. That's just a very, very tough path because I haven't seen them beat good teams yet.

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Time for another edition of Sharper Square, Chad Millman, CCO of the Action Network, All Odds provided by Draft Kings. So Cleveland getting three and a half against Washington, they get Nick Chub back. But I wonder if two things, Deshawn Watson is washed. Secondly, though they haven't faced great competition, Washington's domination of Arizona makes me think, do we have the next Lamar Jackson in Washington? There's a certain harmony with Cliff Kingsbury and Jane Daniels. It's not like they're completing 70% of the throws. It's like 82.

So my gut, my history says Cleveland Plus 3. a half against a rookie quarterback feels like a really smart side, sharp or square? It's, there's going to be games, Colin, and we've talked about this. We'll do the sharp calls segment on the favorites where the wise guys, professional betters, will weigh in with their feedback on the games that we talk about. We talk about them on Tuesday. On Thursday, we go over sharp calls. Four or five games this week. Washington is one of them. Massive split. The right side is to play Cleveland at three and a half. You're 100% right.

It's not because of the rookie quarterback. Jaden Daniels has already proven he's preternaturally gifted. Like what he has done in the first four weeks of this season is indicative of what you will do over the course of a season. Right? And his accuracy stats, as you mentioned, they are not just good for a rookie. They are good historically in the history of quarterbacking. this is a by-low, sell-high situation, right?

You want to get off the commanders right now because they had that big win against the Bengals, then they went and blew out Arizona in a game, a lot of professional betters were betting on Arizona. Meanwhile, Cleveland, they're fading. The line flipped last week when Max Crosby was out

and Devante Adams was out for the Raiders and the Browns went from being underdogs to being favorites, and then they still lost here's the challenge and it's why the game is so split and it's why a lot of wise guys are taking the half point but a lot of people they're just passing this offensive line for Cleveland

is in shambles and now Ethan Posick who was the center who went out last week there are questions about his ability to play this week and they are already lacking other offensive linemen that has been killing their running game which has always been good forget about Nick Chubb

is David and Joku going to play If Injoku plays, that makes Deshaun Watson a little bit better. But generally, this team is struggling at every single position on the field defensively as well. Like, they have not been playing well defensively. Miles Garrett has already said he's got injuries to his feet that are going to require surgery. I want to – listen, I want to bet the Browns so bad in this game. I do. I really do.

And like, I can't pull the trigger yet. I might, I might, the wise guys still might come in. It's not one of my favorite plays. So I believe two things are true simultaneously, that quarterbacking matters more now than 10 years ago. And coaching does. I think there's a gap in coaching in this league and you're seeing it on a regular basis. I think Minnesota has the best coaching staff in the league. Brian Flores, arguably the best defensive coordinator, where top quarterback,

C. J. Stroud, Brock Purdy acknowledged, I don't know what I saw. Minnesota doesn't even have to give up a field goal. Oh, by the way, massive pressure on a team, I think, is one of the most poorly coached between Nat Hackett and Robert Sala. If it's three, I stay away. If I only have to swallow two and a half, Donald and Aaron Rogers, it's a lot closer right now than you think. I would swallow the two and a half in London and take Minnesota, Sharper Square. Historically, you're on the right side. I think the record for favorites in London, just straight up, 34, 10, and 1. 30 and 15 against the spread. So that is the right side.

The wise guys have a, they can't quit Aaron Rogers. They can't quit the Jets right now. So they have been coming in on the Jets. But I agree with you. The right side is the Viking. It's not a sharp side by any measure. but it is the side where you probably are going to have a better opportunity because of what's happened historically. Okay.

Something that I've believed for a long time, a little zigzag theory, when a really good team is humiliated in a standalone game, take them the following week. Yes. Buffalo minus one at Houston without Joe Mixon, C.J. Strout. All quarterbacks need run games, young quarterbacks especially. It's not quite the same without Joe. mixon a healthy joe mixon buffalo is an excellent team much more depth more layered offensively than years before the linebackers are healthier completely utterly humiliated i would swallow the point and take buffalo sharper square square totally square this is a massive public game where the fans are

coming in and they love the bills and normally and there are stats to back this up which i'm sure we will get to, you get blown out, you want to be the team that is being bet on in the next game. Here's what's challenging for this game. Number one, the line has flipped. It's gone from Buffalo being the underdog, Buffalo being the favorite. That is a side where you want to be on the underdog. That is a historical trend where when the line flips, you bet the underdog. Number one, number two, on the field, the challenge with the bills is at the middle

of their defense, from their linebackers to their safeties, is just trash, right? Matt Milano has been out since before the season started. His backup out. DeMar Hamlin is not a top-notch safety in the way they have had top-notch safeties in the past. Nico Collins is a game wrecker right now. So C.J. Stroud improves his third down efficiency just a little bit, and we'll probably have that opportunity to take advantage of the middle of the field.

against that Bill's defense, then of a sudden you're playing yourself out of a game. So the wise guys are on the Texans, and they're hoping to keep getting plus one and a half so they can get a little bit of a cushion. But again, what's interesting, that half point means everything in these games where the spreads are between one and four, right? So that's a massive, massive edge. So Green Bay, and I said I didn't bet the Packers Vikings because my guess, was there were two possible outcomes, and I actually saw both in the Vikings Packers game.

Yeah. Brian Flores, first half against Jordan Love, Jordan looked like he hadn't played a lot. Second half gets his feet under him, Green Bay pivots at half, and then you see the real Packers team that can play with anybody. So I think the second half Packers is the team I'm getting. There's still a major problem with the Rams. With no Puka and Cooper Cup, they can't get touchdowns in the red zone. They have no playmaker. Tyler Higby out, Puka out, Cooper Cup out, Blake Corum not playing much, missing their best offensive linemen on the interior. So the Rams, even when they outplay you, they're just settling for field goals. I think the

second half Green Bay team minus three, I don't think it's a strong play, but I take the Packers. There is no home field advantage. It'll be 65, 35, 35 Packer fan, Sharper Square. The Biggest Pro's game on the board with the pros playing the Los Angeles Rams. So on Tuesday, me and my co-host, Simon Hunter,

you're always trying to put us against each other. We like to bring love to the volume podcast network, but you're trying to, you know, create animosity. I like conflict. Yeah, you like conflict. Listen, that's why you're a content genius.

You know conflict creates really great. great ratings. I came in and I'm like, Simon, the Packers are the side here. We saw the second half. They were in that game against the Vikings. Brian Flores has been making C.J. Stroud and Brock Purdy see ghosts. And Jordan Love, when it was coming down to it, was right there. Like, that was a scary, scary game if you were a Vikings backer.

You got to take the Packers here against a team in the Rams that can't put anyone on the field. And his comment to me was, don't get cocky. And sure enough, as the week went on, this was the game that all the wise guys were coming in on. You saw the line move from three and a half down to three. Even with all the tickets coming in on the Packers, it stayed exactly where it is. It's pretty astonishing how much the wise guys like the Rams here. I'm going to be on the Rams. I'm hoping that I can wait until Sunday and get three and a half again when everybody is coming in and the public comes in on the Packers.

One stat I can give you. And similar to why Wise guys are thinking about the Browns is when you're playing a team covering the spread by more than five points per game, so in this case the Packers, they only cover about four. 45% of the time when facing a team with a win percentage of less than 60. So I know it's a lot of numbers, but basically, when bad teams play good teams, bad teams cover. Giant Seahawks, rarely have I ever been more impressed with a losing team on Monday night football. So Seattle, in Detroit, standalone game, missing their top four defensive linemen. you knew they couldn't stop Detroit. Seattle has two things going for it.

There are skill players, Walker, D.K. Metcalf, tight ends, Gino's playing. I mean, he's completing 77% of his throws. And I think Mike McDonald's excellent. They're getting a couple of their defensive linemen back. New York, if Malik Neighbors doesn't play in this environment, I don't know how the Giants move the ball. McDonald is really clever, and he's been really good against average to below average quarterbacks. I came out of that Seahawks game, and I'm like, I would not want to play them.

I think if those two teams met again and Seattle was reasonably healthy. I wonder if I'd take Seattle. I'm going to swallow the six. I know I'm a dullard, but sharper square. Yeah, you're a dullard because you're on the right side at a bad number. And what is the theme of today's show? Numbers. Get the best of the number, right?

This game opened at five, I think, maybe five and a half. That lasted for maybe 17.5 seconds before the wise guys took the five and a half, took the six. By the time most of America got up on Monday morning, it was at six and a half where it's been sitting except for today, where it's starting to creep up to seven, you are seeing some sevens out there. Don't do it. There's a lot of games. You're just setting yourself up for disaster because there's so much variance in these games and teams that have been seven point favorites or more this year are crushing it. So you're hoping there's some regression. But this is like, they're eight and five straight up this year. So you're really playing with fire to bet the worst of the number on a big underdog.

Okay, I like Pittsburgh minus two and a half of the Cowboys. T.J. Watt against the rookie left tackle. It's a standalone game. Justin Fields under Arthur Smith is not as turnover prone. And, I mean, this is a classic example to me of what the Steelers can do offensively is run the ball. and the Cowboys defensive run defense is 32nd in the league. I don't have to love the Pittsburgh Steelers offensively, but there are things they're excellent at doing. I'm not sure what Dallas does well at this point.

I would swallow the two and a half in Pittsburgh Sharper Square. Totally sharp. Wise guys love this game. It's sort of a reverse Rara Mike Tomlin spot. Normally you don't like back in Mike Tomlin. as a favorite, right? And we saw that last week. I was all over the cults last week when the Steelers were on the road playing an indie. But he's coming off a loss. So even though he's a favorite, it's a good Rob Ross spot for the coach who has been enormously successful motivating

his team. But then let's look at the field. Dallas was already thin and bad defensively. Now they are thinner and worse. No Micah Parsons, no DeMarcus Lawrence, on offense, Brandon Cook's is out in the backfield. They really have no running game to speak up from a matchup point of view. It lines up perfectly for the Steelers in every way they have an edge. You want to be able to run the ball. You want to get the ball out of Justin Fields' hands or you want to keep the ball in his hands for RPO's. Arthur Smith, Steelers' offensive coordinator, has been amazing this year at game planning to put Justin Fields in a position to succeed.

the only time it hasn't worked is when they were losing and all of a sudden he had to start making plays throwing the ball down field and that's when he's fumbling he's making bad decisions they will likely have a lead in this game

they will likely be able to nurse a lead in this game and then it's going to be up to Dak Prescott to throw the Cowboys back into the game and he's going to be going against T.J. Watt and that's when the Steelers really cycle up the opportunity to win. So yeah, we're all over the Steelers in this game. Saints plus five and a half at Kansas City with no Rishi Rice.

So it's not a great offensive line, Pacheco still not back, not as formidable a run game. You lost your number one receiver. Xavier Worthy could become a volume receiver. He's certainly not that now. I think the Saints can hang around. Chiefs to win, but five and a half seems really, really rich. Sharper square. Totally sharp.

The Saints are the right side here. and don't be sort of dissuaded by the outings they've had the past couple of weeks. They were incredibly unlucky. We've talked about the luck rankings on this show, which is basically a formula. Our math geniuses have devised to separate the signal from the noise and identify regression, either positively or negatively, right? So last week, the last two weeks, the Saints have been incredibly unlucky. The chiefs have still been lucky, right?

And they will acknowledge that. They are playing at a higher level than their talent because Patrick Mahomes is so much better than everybody else. This is the biggest difference in luck we have in our luck rankings this week, 28 spots separating them. That number, if a difference in the luck rankings of 28 or more, 65% against the spread. If the team that's unlucky is on the road, 78% against the spread, I'll throw even more at you, Colin. Think about Patrick Mahomes as a favorite of more than a field goal, under 500 against the spread. You want to talk about Derek Carr. Derrick Carr gets a lot of hate from everybody, deservedly so.

But as an underdog, the past 20 years, if he is playing a team that scores less than 21 points in a game, he has a top five against the spread record with guys like Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, Drew Brees. How many points a game are the Kansas City Chiefs averaging? 18, something like that. So the stars are aligning for New Orleans to cover against the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't know what the over-under should be for Denver and Las Vegas, but in a game that could end up 1714, I'm going to take the points with the Raiders

two and a half against Bow Nix. I like Bownecks. There's limitations. I just don't see the points here. I think Denver's defense has actually paid really well. And I think it will hold Brock Bowers, Devante Adams. I don't think that trade happens until after this weekend. I have to take the points here with the Raiders in a division rivalry game,

sharper square. Yeah. That's why you do take the points is because it's a division rivalry game, because why would you take a rookie quarterback as a favorite when he just came off a game where he literally had the most putrid offensive stats that have happened since the 1960s, minus seven yards passing at one point. But the challenge here,

and the wise guys are totally split. So you're not going to get like a definitive sharper square. Personally, I have bet the Raiders a plus two and a half, but I know a lot of guys who are taking the Broncos here, their defense isn't just good. Their defense is elite. Like they're playing at a top five level. Yeah.

And you're going against a Raiders. team where Max Crosby, we still don't know what kind of health he will be in for the game. They have offensive line issues as well. Obviously, Devante Adams will not be playing in that game. I don't know that that matters to me. That's not a reason to bet or not bet. But I do think Gardner-Missue under pressure, about 62% QBR when he's not under pressure. He's in the 90s. So something the Broncos do really well is pressure the quarterback, top five. So that's going to be a challenge, I think. I'm still going to be on the Raiders

because ultimately I like the trend of betting the division, the dogs in the division. But it's a tricky one. It's not like a definitive, sharper square. The volume. Thanks so much for listening.

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