The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Pt 2. Nick Wright on Jokic MVP Debate, LeBron/AD Relationship, Ja Morant Controversy, Warriors Dynasty Decline

Episode Date: March 9, 2023

First Things First co-host - and host of the What's Wright? podcast - Nick Wright joins Colin to discuss the race debate surrounding Nikola Jokic possibly winning his 3rd straight MVP (4:00), if the LeBron and Anthony Davis are still a threat in the West despite a disintegrated relationship (9:00), if Ja Morant flashing a gun in a social media video is cause for greater concern (20:00), if the Warriors dynasty has started its permanent decline (28:00), if the resurgent Knicks have been overrated by the media (34:00). Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates, and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I think if you watch my show and have listened to my show for years, you know I'm an NFL NBA guy with some college football. And I want to start with discussing a place I used to work ESPN. And this week, there was a moment, Nick, where Kendrick Perkins sort of pushed back on Yokic, Steve Nash, and Dirk Nevitsky, winning MVP's. So what Kendrick Perkins was asserting is there have been three white players, Dirk Novitsky, Dallas, Steve Nash, Phoenix a couple of times, and Yokic, who are not top 10 in scoring, but are winning MVP's. He said, what do they all have in common? J.J. Reddick fired back, asserting that Kendrick Perkins was playing, you know, the race card, and it was unfair.

It was a highly contested moment, and it was pretty riveting television. And I'm wondering, Nick, because you've been outspoken where you think Yokic is an overstated player, what was your reaction to that, you know, very turbulent TV moment? I didn't see the whole segment, but I saw the clip. So I will preface it with that. There is nothing. And I know we're going to talk about this, but I'm really glad we are. There are very, very few things that make me more frustrated than when people who know better, smart people act like someone invoking the idea that race could play a part in things.

means they are calling giant swaths of people racist. Kendrick did not call NBA voters racist. Kendrick raised the point, I believe what he raised was, in NBA history, or in the last 50 years, whatever it is, there have been three guys to win league MVP without, or in the last 40 years, I think, without being in the top 10 in scoring. And it was Dirk, Nash, and B. Yokic this year.

and in the last 60 years, there's been one guy to win three straight MVPs, Larry Byrne, and now it looks like it's going to be Yokic now. You raise that point and clearly implied race is a factor. That does not mean you are calling everyone racists. That's right. It is no different than when I talk about offensive coordinators who've made it to the Super Bowl and the coaching opportunities they've gotten. And then there's Eric B. Enemy and Byron left, which I think race has played a factor,

even if it is a subconscious factor in this. And I think that if we are just flatly analyzing the Yokic situation, since 1980, three guys have won an MVP with a team not being a top three or four seed. Moses in 82, Russ, the triple double year that you mentioned, Yokic last year. So right or wrong, that was an aberrant event. That was in a, so he got an exception there, right?

I just said in the last 60 years, only one guy has won three in a row. Yeah. So him winning three in a row would be an exception to what the history is. Sure. is it in play that there is, and I saw some, an NBA trainer, a white NBA trainer, I forget who it is actually tweeted this. I think it's an interesting point. His belief that the general media, the white general media, tends to subconsciously, maybe unintentionally, underrate good white white

players. They think, ah, probably not that good. The guys who are like actually, you know, those guys actually get underrated by maybe a guy like JJ Redding. Right.

Maybe JJ didn't get enough credit for how good of a player he was because he was white. That doesn't mean they're racist. It means race works in our brains a bunch of them ways. While that happens simultaneously. Yeah. slightly, slightly overrating the great white players. And do I think that happens? Yes.

Do I think it is noteworthy that every time Michael or LeBron or Janus won back to back, the voters then said, okay, let's try someone else. You know what I mean? Let's just give someone else to try. But Bird won three in a row and Yokes about to win three in a row. I think it's noteworthy. I don't think that means we're calling anyone Goddog Clanton. Right.

And it is, it is to me trying to shut down a conversation. I actually do not think, I think if I'm listing all the reasons that Yokic is now going to win, probably his third trade MVP, race would not be in my top five. but it would be somewhere on that pie chart, a very small one. So I think it is more nuanced than people give it credit for.

And I didn't, I would have been very upset if I were Kendrick and a teammate did that to me. I wouldn't have liked it. So I'm listening to KG, his podcast with Paul Pierce. And he mentions how,

he's like, man, I've been in this league a long time. I read body language. He goes, when LeBron had that night, and AD didn't even get up, I don't care if you have a bum ankle, you get up. And he said he thinks the Lakers are looking at these next 10 games without LeBron as the future of AD. Can they win without LeBron? If they can't, AD's, he's gone. But it was really interesting.

So I mentioned something. I had been tipped by somebody around the Lakers that said, you know, LeBron and AD, after that reaction to LeBron breaking Kareem Abdul's Jabar, all-time scoring record, they're not boys. It's not hostile. But they're not guys, right? You can tell from body language. KG points this out.

When I mentioned that two days later, I got the strongest reaction from LeBron's people on anything I've ever said. What does that tell you? They got really defensive. I think there is a feeling. LeBron feels like he kind of needs him for at least this year. Because I had been told in the last year, there are times LeBron is disappointed. He came in post-bubble out of shape. It was his turn to sort of triumphantly take the team when LeBron's missing. 80s, often not playing as well. You know, they've only been. played like 12 games together since the bubble. That's their longest streak. And there's been some disappointment in the LeBron camp when I said that.

Major reaction from LeBron's group. And I trusted my source. So my takeaway on this is LeBron left D. Wade and didn't give him a heads up, one of his best friends ever. You know, Mello is one of his best friends ever. He's never really actively pursued him and said, bring him in. He did with him. Westbrook. Sure. He didn't quit mellow. And I guess my takeaway is this, is that the LeBron AD thing is over, but LeBron's

really sensitive to it because he did move off Wade. He did get criticized for it. I think it's over. I think LeBron's smart enough to see the temperature in the room on social media. He's going to be there for him when he's miced. He's like, I love you, man. He makes sure everybody knows. But I'm not going to just say.

AD's reaction to the Kareem moment is nothing. Well, listen, it's certainly not nothing. I don't know what it was. It was one of the most bizarre things I've seen in sports in a couple years. It was one of the most bizarre, shocking things I've seen in sports. And I don't have any sourcing on what was going on. I think I speculated with you, but it's been so long. And this was just blind speculation.

because it was so bizarre, I thought something bizarre had to have happened. You know, that was right around the trade deadline. And we knew the Lakers called about Kyrie. And we now know Durant was available. And I, again, I have no sourcing on this. And I've said it on TV a couple times and no one has texted me like, you're on to something. So I'm probably wrong.

I'm just saying in the moment, I was like, I wonder if part of it wants the, Nets were like, we're not doing Guy Reid. It's like, well, any interest in Anthony Davis for Kevin Durant? And that that filtered back to AD and he felt betrayed. You know, and felt hurt, you know, whatever. Because something had, here's what I do know without having any sourcing. Something happened.

Right. Because that was weird. That was as weird as it gets. With all that said, I don't think the Lakers are dead this year, man. I don't. You can say I'm crazy. I just, I go up and down the Western Conference. I'm like, okay, the one seat is Denver.

I know a healthy LeBron and AD can beat them. I know that. I've said that on the air. Totally agree. Memphis now is off into the weeds. Memphis is, who knows with Memphis. By the way, John Morant reportedly, J. Mack said this to me today on the air, is that and this was two days ago and this airs.

is that when Jah goes out, his teammates don't go with him. He's got his guys. Is there resentment that he has blown the season up in that room? I don't know, but I do know that Memphis is right now not looking as good as they were at any point in the last 18 months. The three seed, God love them, is light the damn being Sacramento. And I got mad respect to Sacramento. My lovely wife, who you adore, she's from Sacramento, love the people there. No defense.

None. Best offense in the league, but no experience and no defense. Same with Dallas. Since Kyrie showed up, you shoot 53% against the math. No defense. Right. We joked about this on the show. NBA used to be a race to 100.

With the Mavs, it's kind of like a race to 125. It's like who's going to get there first? Phoenix set them aside for a moment. They should be the favorites. get it. Dallas is my pick at the beginning of the year. I don't think Kyrie's part of winning. I don't love it. The last year they had the number eight defense that's falling apart. I know you believe in the Warriors. I got a fact. I got a nut fact for you, Colin. Since 1980, the worst road record to win a title, 21 and 20. The Warriors have won seven times on the

road this year. I don't think it's their season. Okay. So now, then you have the Clippers who made the brilliant decision of adding Russell Westbrook for no reason whatsoever. So, and then there's Phoenix, which has everything you'd want, not quite as much depth as you'd want. However, there are certain teams that when an injury happens,

the Bucks last year with Middleton, it's like, God, dog it. What terrible luck. Couldn't see it coming. Bad timing, bad luck. There are certain teams when injuries happen, like the Lakers every year post bubble. It's like, well, yeah, one guy's in year 20 and the other guy's been injured his whole career. Or the Clippers.

It's like, well, Kauai is his body's breaking down. The sons, veteran leader and best player are incredibly injury prone now. You can't, like Kevin Durant is more, is post-Aquillies is injured all the time. So I just say that you can't, you always, people always throw out the caveat of if healthy. Well, there are certain teams more likely to be healthy than others. And the sons, Clippers and Lakers are three teams that if they're hurt, it's like, yeah, well, that's the risk you run. So the point I'm making is I think, I think everything you said about the relationship might be correct

and the Lakers long term might be correct. But I also think if they can survive this time without LeBron, And I don't know the severity of the foot injury, but if they survive it, LeBron having three weeks off before a playoff run in a wide open West, I'm not ready to write them off yet. Maybe I'm, you know, a romantic,

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The two best guys in this year's draft forego college, right? So it's AAU or international basketball to a paid league to the NBA. They can't drink in the team hotel. So I think part of what's sort of endemic in this sport, and you've got to come to terms with it, is these guys aren't emotionally ready. And I think it's just a reality I sort of build it in. Is when I look at these rookies, first of all, they all hit a wall year one. Because college basketball is regional travel, mostly 36 games. NBA is domestic travel, count preseason playoffs could be 100 games.

So they all hit a wall like game 65. They can't keep weight on. You know, they're just, they have to play defense. They're burning 7,000 calories a night. By year two, expectations ramp up, social media, parents, hangar honors. So the jaw situation, I think, will get turned it around. And I'm not defending him. But isn't this sort of something that's built into the sport?

These are kids. Now they have revenue basketball. revenue shoes, revenue social. Oh, it's overwhelming. Listen, so here's the thing. I'm amazed anybody at that age, that money, that fame doesn't just create disaster after disaster. So I am super, you know, I've told the story to you before. I'm smart kid.

I think good family, all the opportunities. forget getting 50 million. I write out a college loan who wants to be a millionaire and won 50,000, and it's gone in nine months. Gone with the, by the way, I didn't have, I didn't buy a car and have any assets. It was spent. Gambling, drinking, out is spent. People are like, ah, you're paying for everybody's lifestyle.

Yeah, of course you are. Of course you are. So I'm going to defend a lot of that stuff. Like people are like, oh, all these guys, they're paying for their friends. And as soon as you have money, you like doing things that cost money and nobody likes to do them alone. So it's like, hey, guys, want to go to dinner? And if all your friends are like, yeah, I've got money for Fridays and you have money for Mastros. And I guess what?

You're all going to Mastros and you're paying the bill. It's like, hey, guys, it's the off season. You weren't going on vacation. They're like, yeah, I can pay for Branson. And you're like, hmm, I was thinking Barbados, I guess we'll all go and I'll pay. for it. So I understand like all of that stuff is to me totally reasonable. The gun stuff scares me. And again, I'm going to couch it with this part of it. There is legitimate, understandable pushback from people are like, hold on a second. We got more guns than people in this country. Everybody's

allowed to have guns. And we only freak out when it's a young black guy. He wasn't breaking any laws, potentially all that. Got it. I actually think in a lot of ways, there are fair points there, as far as the hypocrisy of it all there. What is undeniable, though, is what he is doing is dangerous. Forget if it's right or wrong. It's dangerous. It would be dangerous anywhere. It is particularly dangerous in Memphis, Tennessee.

Memphis, Tennessee has the third highest homicide rate of any major city in the country. 50 biggest cities. Bloomberg just had this. 50 biggest cities in America. Memphis Cinesis murder rate is number three. It is nine times New York City, okay? Which means if you are one of, as far as gun violence, the most dangerous cities in America, you're one of the most dangerous cities in the world in developed countries.

That's where he lives. We just saw in Memphis. A Memphis celebrity, beloved young Dolph, a rapper, murdered. murdered at a bakery in the last year. I don't know if Jaws a real gangster or not. I don't know if he's hanging with real gangsters or not. I don't know if he's just playing for the gram. I know that city.

My wife, who you adore, her best friend, who you've met a few times, saw it the super old Nicole, who's with us all the time, lives in Memphis. We go to Memphis a lot. I know the city. I know the nightlife. I told this story on my pod the other day.

I don't know if I should tell it or not, but I, but whatever. We went down to Memphis for the Southern Heritage Classic. Uh-huh. The Deon's team, Jackson State. Yeah. We saw it. That night, we went out, went out to a lot of the places that I know, like, are places

Jagoes in Memphis, that scene that those clubs, right? one of the guys who's promoting one of the parties that night knew I was coming. He knew Nicole knew I was coming, whatever. When we got there, he said, hey, thanks for coming, Nick. I was like, yeah, it's great, whatever. And he said, this is such and such. He's going to be with you tonight. Like, huh?

He's like, no, he's like, I brought it. He's one of my security guys. He's just going to be with you all night. I'm like, no. Come on, man. Like, I thought he was doing it like I was like some big shot. He's like, no, he's like, I know, I know my city and I know I'll feel better. He'll be with you.

His point was, you have a little bit of notoriety, a little bit of jewelry. I'd feel better if I knew someone who knew everything about the city was here with you. And now some might say, and if bosses hear this, then I might say, yeah, Nick, maybe. go to a different club. Maybe it's worse. But whatever it is, you're young, you're having fun. That is where John lives. And whether he is an actual tough guy or not, actual tough guys see these videos and see how he's

conducting himself. And I don't think it's being hyperbolic to say, what he's doing is, dangerous. Not that he's going to hurt someone. That's something that could happen to him. And this last point I'll make on it. The opportunity in front of him, there's, like, he's in a very unique spot because if someone were to say who are the best players in the NBA

over the next, you know, six years. So LeBron's gone. Durant's probably aged out of it. staff might be aged out of it. So like, you know, from 2026 to 2032 are the best players. People probably say, well, Janice, Lukah, Yokic, Embed, and then you say Jha, Tatum, whomever. Here's my point. There is a lot of money in being, he's never going to be the best player in the league,

but he might be the best American player in the league for a long time. because all the guys ahead of him, there's different marketing available for the best American player. There just is. Like, Luca and Yokic and Yonis are not going to get all of the endorsements that the guy who's the best player in the league should get as an American guy would. That could all go to job. People love him. He's electrifying. But the shit he's doing is dangerous.

It's flatly dangerous. And I hope he, I hope he gets that and I hope he's all right. By the way, I know you don't buy the Warriors, but I do think it's interesting, not just because he's a member of the volume, but I watch the Warriors a lot, almost every game, at least half. He's a much bigger part of their offense as a catalyst than people will ever admit. The ball moves significantly better when he's on the floor.

he remains maybe the best defensive player, certainly for his size in the league. He's a classic Rodman annoyance. And I think he plays with a, there's so much intellectual capital with all those playoff games, his spacing, his screening, that when he went after Jordan Poole, some have suggested it hurt the team on the road, that that's where you hang out together. and it's a more clicky team. People took sides after that. Do you buy into that?

Oh, well, that's really interesting. I haven't heard that specific theory because the home road splits don't make sense. Don't make sense. It is. But the road, if a clicking teams aren't good on the road. That wouldn't. No, so maybe, listen, only Houston and San Antonio have fewer road runs this year. Think about that.

The Charlotte Hornets. have been better on the road this year. The pistons have as many road went. That seems impossible. It really seems impossible. So there's got to be something going on. And the outlier event is exactly what you said. Is Draymond's slugging pool.

And I, this is not that one guy's, you know, a vet's going to punch a younger player is going to happen. But this is one of the risks when you try to bridge, generations like the Warriors with the light years thing we're trying to do is that you are going to have and it's not like the NFL where there's so many guys everybody can have you know what I mean have their own group there's only 14 guys on a team it's only nine guys that matter at all and it would it be shocking for anyone because the only guy that kind of straddles the line is Wiggins as far as age that's right you have really young and then you have the four guys who've been there for all of it.

Yeah. Steph, Clay, Draymond, and Iguado. That's it. And so it is a weird spot. I also think this, that winning that title that they won was so important and so gratifying. And so much for all of those guys. a can't ever tell me nothing.

Nothing. Title one, it's the first one. The calves were hurt. And then the very next year, LeBron killed him, which doesn't take that title away, but it feels a little, you know what it makes you feel

a little different about it. Then you're the best team in the world by far, but there's the weird thing with Kevin. You know what I mean? Steff's the guy, but Kevin's there. And then Kevin leaves, and you're in the damn wilderness.

You miss the playoffs outright, and then you get knocked out in the play-in. That's the two years. And then you win the whole thing again. Yeah. I think, man, it is hard to amp yourself back up. Yeah, there's a lot of people that watch them even more closely than I do that felt like that was the last great moment for the franchise, those games in Boston. I think here's the thing. And that could also explain the home road, which is they're not that great of a team at this point.

They are emotionally spent. But at home, they get that extra oomph energy. Plus, it is still intimidating for opponents. So again, I don't think they're a seven and 24 level team independent. But it might be that it's less about the road record being so long. and more about the home record slightly inflated for where it should be because that they get the boost from the crowd and all of that. I just think that strikes me as a, it's a lot of years, Colin.

It's 15, 16, 17, 17, 18, 19, 21, 2, 3. We're in the ninth year from when they won their first title to right now. And it can be like LeBron went to 8.000. eight straight. Two different teams. By the end of the run in Miami, they were spent. And by the end of the run in Cleveland, they were spent. LeBron's ability to bridge that whole thing is mind-boggling.

But we're now talking nine years of title contention, essentially. That's a lot, man. That's a lot. And I just, it's why I just have a hard time, hard time thinking they can gear up for one more hurrah. Maybe they can, but I think they might, if they find themselves in the play in, which is on the board, unlikely but on the board,

having to immediately gear up for elimination level, then it's just, I just think they're in a rough spot, which is one of the reasons the West feels so open to me. Nick Wright, we did 30, 35 minutes on NFL yesterday, 30, 35 minutes today, this morning. Before we go, can I just ask you one question, NBA, Eastern Commerce for a second? How much, because I'm not able to watch your show quite as, I watch pieces of it every day.

But when I was in the mornings, I'd be at home and I'd have it on. So I'd kind of always hear you. Now you're on while I'm prepping. And I don't know about you. I try to consume almost nothing before I go on the air because or else it like it'll get in my brain. Right, same thing. I don't want to. How much have you talked on your show about the New York Knicks?

Well, not a lot. I think that's the right answer. No, I'm not asking you to talk about them now. Yeah. I just, that's the reason I asked you was because the amount of attention that the moment they have a good two weeks, this team, that's been out of round one once this millennia gets because my theory on it is the following. I really asked you that just so I could go on this rank.

My apologies. I think media that works in New York likes Nix fans liking them. Yeah. They like walking out the street and having, oh, yo, shout out to the Nix. Thanks for giving the Nix love. And I won't do it. And people on my show, they're like, oh, ready to admit the Knicks are a threat. To who?

To what? And I said today, I said, over the last 50 years, the Cavs, who, by the way, are currently the four seed in the Knicks or the Five have been a better franchise. Yeah. They're like, what are you? It's flatly true. The last 50 years, the Cavs have the same. In the last 40 years, the Knicks have no titles.

Last 50 years, the Knicks have won. The Cavs have won. The Cavs have one of the, I'll be generous here, two greatest players ever, really greatest players ever. The Knicks have the 34th greatest player ever. Like, give me a break. And even recently. And right now, who has the best player between them?

The Cavs. Who is the best young player between them? The Cavs. But I don't usually believe in like coastal media bias except for on two things. New York Knicks coverage and wildfire coverage in L.A. the other direction. I believe there's a totally random take to end the show on. I believe if anywhere on the eastern corridor had fires the way Los Angeles does,

it would be wall-to-wall news coverage every time it happens. Yeah. If 20 miles north of Washington, D.C., you had 150 acres on fire, I have a feeling CNN would be all over it. But it happens in that California, they're like, I don't even know what's weird out there. There's oceans, mountains. like nobody talks about it. It's crazy to me.

But Knicks coverage, the overcoverage of the Knicks and the undercoverage of the California weather stuff, that's where I believe East Coast media bias happens. Yeah. That's my index. It's a Tibbs team. Play really hard every night. Effort wins a lot of regular season games. In the playoffs, everybody plays hard.

It's talent and they don't have enough offense. And you don't have an extra gear. You can't get to it. If you're always, if your foot's always. always to the ground on the accelerator, then when someone else goes into fifth gear, you're like, I was already there. And now I can't win the race. Yeah.

I've seen that I've read this book before. All right, buddy. Once a month, we bring him in. We do an hour. I usually do 30 minutes. Congrats on all your success. Oh, thanks. You too.

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