The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Rams Beat Vikings On TNF, Rams Shouldn’t Be Sellers, Sharp Or Square - Week 8 NFL Betting Advice

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

Colin reacts to the Rams beating the Vikings on Thursday Night Football! He explains why the Rams are still very much in contention in the NFC West and why they shouldn’t be looking to shop Matthew ...Stafford and Cooper Kupp, and why Sam Darnold just isn’t on the same level as a quarterback like Stafford despite his great season (3:00) Then, Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for week 8 of the NFL season! 22:00 - Cardinals vs Dolphins 25:00 - Colts vs Texans 28:15 - Seahawks vs Bills 30:30 - Bears vs Commanders 33:15 - Eagles vs Bengals  40:45 - 49ers vs Cowboys 43:30 - Giants vs Steelers  45:45 - Jets vs Patriots 47:45 - Ravens vs Browns 50:00 - Packers vs Jaguars 50:30 - Lions vs Titans (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:45 Rams beat the Minnesota Vikings 30 to 20. That's as bad a missed call in a big spot in an NFL game that I've seen in a long time. Fans tend to get worked up over past interference calls, but those are subjective. like an NBA game. You know, you could call a foul every time down the floor. You could call P.I. every time the balls down the sideline. But a face masking call? I mean, hell, Kirk Herb Street saw it. We all saw it on television. Like Donald's head get yanked back. Now, I don't think they were going to drive 97 yards, score a touchdown. The Rams defensive front, which is really young. Aaron Donald left, but they have stocked that the last
Starting point is 00:04:28 two years with really good players. Young, verse on the front. Co. Cote. Toby Turner, a lot of good players. And so I don't think Darnal was driving down to score a touchdown and the two-point conversion on the road. Nonetheless, that's a bad miss. You know, there's so many things to start. First of all, this week, the rumors came out that Cooper Cup and Matt Stafford were on the trade block.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Cooper Cup, I believe. You see how often they targeted Puka Nakua. He's their future. Cooper Cup's good, but he's brittle. He struggles. He's like an old NBA player. He struggles on like back to the United States. back games on turf.
Starting point is 00:05:05 You know, he's a guy ideally for him and his body, you'd play him about 10 weeks a year. But for a good team, like a Pittsburgh team that's playing well now, you get a third, fourth round pick for Cooper Cup with pickens on the sideline routes. You'd have a real team. You know, he would be a boost. But for the Rams, you know, they're going to extract everything they can the rest of the year. I don't know if they'll move him. I think the Rams, I have said this today on FS1.
Starting point is 00:05:33 there's no question in that division. San Francisco's not as good as they were. Nobody's going to trust Gino Smith in Seattle. Arizona can be great and awful in the same game. The Rams are now three and four. Remember last year, slow start. They won seven of their last eight, got into the playoffs, and they were a play away from beating Detroit. So this idea of trading Cooper Cup, I get it because of Puka Nakuwa, and I did not expect Puka Nakuwa to play tonight. That's why I had the Vikings and the under on the the Rams. I didn't think Pooka Nakuo was going to play. And, you know, he's just total game changer. He's, he's not Justin Jefferson great, but he's a, he's a 10 target, eight catch guy weekly basis for 95 to 115 yards. He's just a special player, fifth round or two. But the Matt Stafford trade rumors are, just don't make any sense to me. He's got this year and next year under contract, then they can walk away. But there's just not, there's nobody in the next two college drafts that is close to this. And Sean McVeigh almost walked away from the NFL a couple of years ago to take an Amazon job as a broadcaster. He didn't want to start over with
Starting point is 00:06:41 some, you know, half of these first round quarterbacks don't make it. This coming up draft, you know, I mean, I can see the Rams in the third or fourth round, taking Riley Leonard out of Notre Dame, sitting them behind Stafford for a year or two. But if you're not getting Shadour Sanders, I don't see anybody in this quarterback draft that's going to play immediately in Excel at the NFL level. I just don't. And that's what my couple sources who I've talked about in the executive suites in the NFL tell me. It's just a, this last draft was great quarterback draft. Next two are just okay.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So, I mean, Stafford, four touchdowns, 23 or 32, nine different receivers, 27 first downs. They're not getting rid of him. And I said this last year, and I'll say it again. They need a number one corner. The Rams doing the draft. They need to draft a sideline receiver, a speed receiver, and they need another offensive tackle. and probably another safety for depth, but they're not that far away. If they hit, they have a first and two-thirds.
Starting point is 00:07:37 If they hit on those picks, team could win the Super Bowl. I don't think they're a Super Bowl team this year at three and four, but Minnesota's a good team. And the Rams controlled that second half. So I just don't buy into Matt Stafford's moving. And I have said this before. Just think about Aaron Rogers. So Matt Stafford was a much better high school player than Aaron Rogers and a much better college player than Aaron Rogers and was better than Aaron Rogers their first four years in the league.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And then, you know, errands with the Packers, Stafford's with the, you know, bankrupt lions. And, you know, Stafford struggles to win in the same division. Rogers is, you know, out of this world for Green Bay and deserves all the credit. But what happens if Stafford the next two years makes the Rams a viable Super Bowl team? It's not unheard of. San Francisco's peak. We don't trust Philadelphia's coach. The Lions are the best team, but in a big spot, Dan Campbell, Jared Goff, or McVan, Stafford. With no Aidan Hutchison, that game gets a lot closer. So I just look at it and I think to myself, Stafford's here,
Starting point is 00:08:48 load up on draft picks the next two years, try to have some hits. You know, the Rams defense is so young that they can spend some money in free agency this year. They're not spending anything on defense. I mean, those guys are all free. They're cheap. They got a lot of second, third, fourth, fifth rounders all over that defense. They're not paying anybody right now, now that Aaron Donald's gone. As far as the Vikings go, you know, Sam Darnold was fine, outplayed in the second half, but it really is interesting. So, you know, we all kind of picked, you know, Detroit Green Bay to be the best in the division, and then the Bears and the Vikings to round it out. And I had said, if the Vikings finished fourth, it's the most talented offensive fourth place team in the history of
Starting point is 00:09:29 the NFL. They're not going to finish fourth. I think, but I do think, and they've got winnable games coming up, you know, they've got Titans, Jags, Colts, Arizona, Bears, twice, Seattle. You know, Vikings are a good team. But I do think Detroit's got a better roster and is a better team, and you saw it last week when they played. And I think Green Bay is so young, we're not seeing the best version of Green Bay. I think over the next eight weeks, Packers are just going to get and better and better and better. And I wouldn't be shocked if they got to a Super Bowl. I don't see as a Super Bowl winning team this year, but it wouldn't shock me. They're so young. Every time you watch Green Bay, they look better. And that's the advantage of having a bunch of 24-year-olds
Starting point is 00:10:06 and 25-year-olds who are just into their prime. Detroit's a little older, more season. And that's why I like Detroit if they met in like a playoff game. But, you know, what do you do with Stafford? So my guess is if the Vikings end up being a good team winning 10 games, but they finish third because the Vikings, you know, I don't think they're Detroit or Green Bay at at their best. And remember, the Vikings may have just lost their left tackle for some time. Cross your fingers on that. But Darnold will have a market. I mean, the last several years, think about the quarterbacks who have had a market. Old Brady, Matt Stafford, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rogers, Kirk Cousins. Darnold will have a market. Now, somebody may overpay for him.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You're not going to get this Donald. He's not going to have this left tackle, Justin Jefferson, this coach. You know, probably Jordan Addison, T. J. Hawkins, and you're not getting that, Donald. But I think he'll be somewhere between the mess in New York and the Vikings, and he's a really coachable, likable kid. But you see it tonight when you put him on the field with Stafford, Stafford's the better quarterback. I mean, Stafford's got nine different receivers, his pre-snap stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I mean, the guy is just, Matt is just insanely gifted. But he has, you know, he doesn't have a brand. He doesn't give a rip. He just loves footballist family. And that's, you know, he's not controversial. He doesn't talk about conspiracy theories. He's just not who he has. is, man. He's just a good old Texas Southern guy, loves football and family, keeps it quiet.
Starting point is 00:11:33 But Darnold will have a market, and I think J.J. McCarthy, who had a great preseason, is kind of their future. And I think, you know, if Darnold gets the 10 wins, 10, 11 wins, that's a second, third round pick. I don't think you're going to get a first for him. But Darnold will have a market. But they didn't draft J.J. McCarthy to move off him. So, but I did think tonight when you see Darnold, and he's not reckless. He's gotten the reckless out of him, but when you see him on the same field, with like a golf last week or a Matt Staffer this week, he just doesn't feel quite that. And I think Kevin O'Connell, who's a quarterback coach, I think a lot of people like Sam Darnel, but to give a guy a bag, you have to love your quarterback. And so he'll have a market.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I think the Vikings will pull back a little. But again, both the Rams schedule and the Viking schedule, there's a lot of wins. The other thing on the Rams tonight, they got Puka and Cooper cutback, but the interior of their offensive line, they're still missing two starters. So this Rams team, which has a young, young, aggressive, talented defense and a really good offensive line, top five or six in the league, when healthy. So the Rams now are starting to get healthy. Puka, a surprise starter tonight. Big, big production.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Just to give you a sense of how valuable Puka Nakua is, and I didn't think he'd play tonight, the Rams have won eight of the last nine games. Puka Nakua has played. The only loss, overtime loss, on the road to Baltimore. And with that win, the San Francisco 49ers are now in last place in the NFC West. How about that? But, man, just watching Stafford out there, spin it, he is really, really special. If you ask yourself, now that Brady's out of the league and Breeze is out of the league, and I said to you, Final Drive, minute 30, one time out final drive. You'd take Mahomes. I'd argue I'd take Stafford's second. He's certainly in the argument. You know, you'd take him, I think over Lamar, because Lamar's lack of
Starting point is 00:13:38 playoff success, you know, Josh Allen, bigger, stronger athlete, but again, lack of playoffs success. I love Joe Burrow, but Burrow, you know, I mean, he may not make the playoffs this year, and he's had some injuries. I mean, name the quarterbacks in the league, minute 30, one timeout have to have to go 84 yards. I mean, it's Mahomes one. Stafford's on a short list at number two. So the trade rumor is kind of silly to me. I also think, you know, when you get, you know, we're always trying to bum rush all these older guys out. And Stafford certainly had some injuries, but you watch his legs, you watch his arms. He's obviously motivated. He's one of the best pre-snap guys in the league. You know, this isn't a guy that, that, I mean, his wife made a
Starting point is 00:14:24 remark earlier, I think this year or late last year about how young as teammates are. Yes, the Rams are doing the Kansas City Chiefs model. They're going to pay for offense. They are going to just keep drafting defense. And I think the Rams defense, like the Packers' offense, is just going to get better the longer the season goes. I think the Packers' offense by week 13 could be the best offense in the league. It's already one of the best. I think this Rams defense is just getting better every time I see them. So good win for the Rams tonight. Three and four.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Minnesota is still a good team with a lot of Ws left. But I don't think the Rams are selling. I don't. Cooper Cup, if somebody offered you a second, third, you'd take it. But I don't think people are going to do that. Brittle, expensive. I think they may get a fourth round pick. And at that point, just keep him.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Just go win football games. I mean, he made a huge catch up the sideline tonight late. That was a big catch. So congrats to the Rams. Chad Millman, Sharp or Square. Who does he like? Who do I like? Stay tuned.
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Starting point is 00:21:25 Defenses can weaken and the quarterback separate, coaching quarterbacks separate this time every year. If you go look at the AFC, the best quarterbacks lead each division. Kirk Cousins leads his. By the way, if you look at the quarterbacks playing best, I think eventually Jordan Love will lead his division. That's the time of the year we're in. So let me throw out a game that is fascinating. And this really highlights how important numbers are. So historically, quarterbacks off concussions don't play their best the first week back.
Starting point is 00:22:01 But Arizona, Miami, at three and a half, I'm out. But Arizona is the most inconsistent team in the league. They often have the best quarters followed by the worst halves. If it's minus two and a half or minus three Miami, I like them because Arizona, high low, high low, just beat a team that I think's better than them. the chargers and hardball. So what I feel is like, oh, here they go, short week, Monday night, here they go, cross-country, you lose a day in prep.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Here is Tua McDaniel played terribly with absolutely something to prove. They are going to flex at, they're going to keep starters into the last play. That game interests me. Like Miami not only needs to win, they've been so bad for a month, they want, to sell to that locker room. We are a great team. This is a new page and a new team forget the last month. Game fascinates me.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I would take Miami minus three, but the hook, because of concussions and the numbers behind those, scare me. What do the sharps think on this? Now it's like you are inside a professional better war room, because that is the exact conversation. this week, this line opened at three and a half. Arizona was the underdog. The professional
Starting point is 00:23:30 betters bet Arizona at three and a half. When it got to three and it even touched two and a half, professional betters started coming in on Miami. And I apologize for people listening to my voice. It sounds worse than it is. Don't worry, I'm going to be fine. The point is Miami is the team professional betters are backing for every reason you just set. They believe Tua will make this team better. More importantly, they aren't believing in Kyler Murray as a consistent winning quarterback going cross-country to play the dolphins in a desperate, desperate situation. So the wise guys are on Miami. Yeah. Desperate spot. They got to win. And I really do believe Miami, Mike McDaniels has to rebrand this team fast because they've been the worst team in the league.
Starting point is 00:24:20 for about a month. And also, they're watching the Patriots fall apart and the Jets fall apart. So it's like, guys, let's see second place first assignment Sunday. Let me give you a Colin. Last week, I was sitting in an airport and I was going over my notes for the favorites to do the show. And I couldn't remember who was playing quarterback for the Miami Dolphins. That's how off the radar there. I had to look up literally Miami Dolphins starting quarterback. And you know what came up? Tua. Google didn't even know who the starting quarterback for Miami was. That's how sort of forgotten they've been. So you're 100% right. They need to reframe who they are right now. Okay. Colt's in a desperate spot, plus five rival game at the Texans. The Green Bay game, there was a little bit of a red flag on Houston. So C.J. Strouds in year two clearly needs Joe Mixon and Nico Collins to be completed. he's getting worse protection.
Starting point is 00:25:22 If you watch the pass attempts and you watch the coaching, they're getting a little conservative with him. It tells you that if they're not completely healthy, the staff doesn't necessarily trust him yet. Conversely, Jordan Love throws ugly picks early, Matt LaFleur doubles down, throw it more. They know they've got Favre on their hands. Jordan Love is an aggressive thrower, and LaFleur, totally backs him. But the way they're coaching C.J. Stroud is telling me they're a little concerned with the elements around him. And sometimes as a second year player, he needs those, the Nicos, the Joe Mixons, to fortify his game. So I'm going to take the Colts plus five.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It was six on draft kings, all our odds provided by draft kings, sharper square. Yeah, it's totally sharp. In fact, it went from six and a half to six to five and a half to five. it's now at four and a half in some places. Wise guys have been pounding the cults. I'm going to take your theory about better quarterback and expand it because that obviously isn't the case in this scenario. But I do think one of the reasons why the public has been winning so much in the past two weeks, the public, meaning if there are more than 51% of the bets on one side, that is a
Starting point is 00:26:47 public side. For the first five weeks of the year, the public was having its worst season in the 20 years we've been tracking this at Action Network. The past two weeks, the public is 20, 20, 7, and 1. Complete and total reversal. Obviously, Houston is going to be the public side here, but what normally happens is bad quarterbacks and bad teams with big numbers find a way to cover, and they haven't been. This is a situation where I'm extrapolating. I think it's more about good coaching and dominant unit. So you have in the Colts the number one run blocking unit in the NFL. You may get Jonathan Taylor back.
Starting point is 00:27:30 You practiced yesterday for the first time off of that high ankle spring. You've got a great, great play caller in Shane Steichen, who last year almost got the Colts of the playout with Gardner Minshu. And by the way, has this team at four and three, and one game out of the first place in the AFC South behind the Texans, who they only lost two by two points already this year. So that is why the wise guys are coming in one trend for you. Division favorites, the past eight years, 46% against the spread.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So it's also a good spot. One more underdog. Seattle plus three against the bills. So Seattle, we haven't seen a lot of Seattle. when they're healthy up front defensively. But boy, did Kirk Cousins see that last week. This is a really good defensive coach with some really tasty defensive personnel. They're also getting their top cornerback.
Starting point is 00:28:29 When I look at Gino Smith, I look at him two ways. With time and a run game, he's highly effective. When rushed, sometimes on the road, he's not. Buffalo is not a team, although I like him. I don't trust them. They're a much better version of Arizona. And Seattle, at home, healthy, a field goal, I, this is hard for me to turn down. At three and a half, it's one of the best bets of the week.
Starting point is 00:29:04 At three, I'd roll with it, the Seahawk, sharper square. So it's square. The wise guys are on Buffalo. But I will tell you, I'm with you. I don't understand why they're on Buffalo. You know, we've talked about this before. We do a segment on our show called Sharp Calls. On Tuesday, we talk about all the games.
Starting point is 00:29:27 By Thursday, when we do the next episode of the week, we've got feedback from a lot of professional betters with their opinions on what we talked about on Tuesday, and we will review those on the show. Seattle Buffalo was one of the games that we loved on Tuesday, and on Thursday, we were getting a lot of calls from professional butters saying that they weren't buying Seattle's, defense, they weren't buying Gino Smith, and they liked Josh Allen and the year that he's having
Starting point is 00:29:52 no interceptions, hasn't thrown an interception in nine games, which is coming close to record-breaking status. Right. But I am with you. Like, the bills beat up on bad teams. Yes. And they lose or struggle against good teams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:09 So if you're betting Seattle, then you are basically taking a stand that you think Seattle is a good team. Yeah. And there is some evidence of that. They have gotten healthier. But there's evidence that they're a bad team too, right? So I think that's what the wise guys are playing here. They just don't believe Seattle is a very good team yet. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:25 All right. Let's go to some favorites. Bears minus two and a half at the commanders. Even if Jaden Daniels plays, he's not at 100%. And you could clearly see with the Giants next week. If Jaden Daniels plays, gets dinged, pass rush, pretty good for Chicago. You could see them saying, we're going to Mario. We're going to go into divisional play.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We got no interest. I think the Bears defense, because we're so fixated on Caleb, and he's, by the way, he is building real rapport here with his offensive set. I think the Bears defense is pretty well coached. Again, it's a numbers game. I think if Jaden Daniels plays, it will be mass protection. It will be a game in which they coach him. more safely, they call a game differently. He's the difference in the franchise. And I think it's one of these games you look at and you think, listen, if we had to not play him, I mean, he hasn't practiced
Starting point is 00:31:28 this week. Even if he practices Friday, you kind of wonder what you get. I like Chicago minus two and a half here. A pretty strong play, Sharper Square. Yeah, that's the sharp side. And look, The betters are almost literally banking on the idea that Jaden Daniels isn't going to play in this game because he hasn't practiced. And there is a massive difference between Jaden Daniels and Marcus Mariel. Yes. The commanders have only punted 12 times this season. That's tied with the Chiefs for the fewest since 1950. They're perfect on fourth downs.
Starting point is 00:32:08 They're 50% on third down conversions. That is because of Jaden Daniels. That is because of the threat that he poses. That is because of what he can do is both a very accurate passer and a good runner. Without that, this is a different team. It stresses the defense, which isn't very good, even from a statistical point of view, but they don't look as bad when Jaden Daniels is converting fourth downs and converting third towns. There's fewer opportunities for the opposing offense to get on the field and score points.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Caleb Williams has been a brilliant quarterback the past four weeks. And by the way, in the second half, he's covering the spread at a rate that is only compared, only matched by Patrick Mahomes right now. So this coming off a buy, this team in this spot, it is a really good time to bet the Bears at minus two and a half. The wise guys are with you. The Eagles are the only team in the league that hasn't scored in the first quarter. And that matters when they go on the road to face Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, when he doesn't have to throw, but chooses to throw, is as good as any quarterback in this league.
Starting point is 00:33:21 All quarterbacks, when they're in a whole, face a different defensive test. Philadelphia, if they score, doesn't take big leagues. They're probably the most underachieving offense in the league based on personnel and productivity. So here's a team in Cincinnati, which has shown an ability to start quickly. I think Philadelphia's got much better players, but at minus two and a half, basically season on the line with Baltimore winning, Pittsburgh winning. This is the season for Cincinnati. At home, I only give up two and a half against what I think is one of the more poorly coached teams in the league, yet one of the best rosters. I'll take the Bengals minus two and a half sharper square.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Totally sharp. The public is on the Eagles and this line has moved up. That's called the reverse line move. When the line moves in the opposite direction of where the majority of the bets are, that tells you that professional betters are coming in on the side of the team that the line moved in the direction of. That is the Bengals. Open to two. It's now at two and a half.
Starting point is 00:34:30 This is a bet on Joe Burrow. Yep. That's all. Like, he's 22, 6, and 1 against his spread when facing a team that just covered. Overall, in his career, he's 63%. He's 70% against teams that are over 500. The challenge here is everyone should be and has been concerned about the Bengals defense, but two things the Bengals defense has been really good.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Defending against the long pass and explosive plays. That's the best way for the Eagles to win. seen it time and again. When they get the explosive plays, that's when they can break it out. The rest of the time, their offense isn't very good. We even saw it against the Giants last week. So the pros are with you. They're backing Joe Barrow.
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Starting point is 00:37:05 His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. nass. But get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through
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Starting point is 00:39:33 I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So you know I love the number five. When a team is favored by four and a half to five, I feel like it's a graveyard for books. that they don't want to go to that number, but they're kind of trapped.
Starting point is 00:40:09 So San Francisco's at home. Dallas has not matched up well against better teams. Now, Debo had pneumonia. As a pro athlete, I think he's available Sunday. I think Jennings is available. Jordan Mason's the second leading Russia in the league. He's a more than capable backup. Teams that are well coached with talent that deliver a stinker
Starting point is 00:40:30 in the biggest TV game of the week, always play. It's an easy team to coach hard. They will play a much better football game. They're limited. No Brandon Ayyuk. No Christian. They're limited.
Starting point is 00:40:42 But I think they feel they not only lost to the chiefs, they were kind of embarrassed. It was really a bad performance. I'm going to swallow the four and a half and take the Niners at home, Sharper Square. Well, you said something there that is a little bit too flip and dismissive. No Brandon Ayyuk. No Christian McCask. They might not have Debo Samuel because the guy has pneumonia, like he was in the freaking hospital.
Starting point is 00:41:12 If you look at Brock Purdy's production, a third of his production during the time he's been starting has been going to Christian McCaffrey and Brandon Ayyuk. If you include Debo Samuel, 50% going to those three guys. You take away those three guys and you know what you get. Brock Purdy and what he did against the Kansas City Chiefs. Like, Ricky Pearsall is not Brandon Ayu. No, I don't know if Ricky Pearsall can play. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Ronnie Bell is not Debo Samuel. It doesn't matter how hard Kyle Shanahan coaches these guys this week. If they can't play, they can't play. So that's the real issue. It's why the wise guys took the Cowboys at six and a half, took him at five and a half, took him at five and a half, took him at five. down to four and a half. This thing's going to four.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I would not be surprised if it's a three and a half by Sunday because the wise guy money is coming in on the Cowboys. And that's even with all the chaos of Jerry Jones calling out Mike McCarthy, who he could have fired after the Packers blew out the Cowboys. And now he's upset with McCarthy's play calling. The Cowboys are still aside. By the way, McCarthy 13, 3 and 1, off of the buy. against a spread.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Okay, so a game, I want your opinion on this. It seems easy. So when Malik Neighbors was out, or Kvon Thibodeau for the Giants, it sounds alarming. But the player that really decides the fate of this team is Andrew Thomas. When bad quarterbacks don't have a left tackle, they get hideous fast. The Giants are now last year's Giants, right? They competed without Malik. With Dexter Lawrence, they compete without Thibodeau.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I don't think they're a competitive football team. So I get the Steelers, for the record, the second half against the Jets, 24-0, New York's got players. It was a little old Russell Wilson. He's now got a deep threat, a run game, Arthur Smith, he had protection, moving well. We know the defensive motivations there. I know it doesn't feel sharp, but Pittsburgh minus 6 hosting a Giants team, Shane and Dable have been given assurance by the owner. You're not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:43:42 It's not a frenetic behind the scenes thing. Neither wants Daniel Jones. I cannot bet Daniel Jones stand alone on the road without his left tackle. It feels like the minus 6 is sharp. Steeler, sharper square. It's eh. Like, no one's really interested in this game. If it wasn't a primetime game, it'd be the corner TV game because the Giants are that bad.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And you're right about Andrew Thomas. Like, we've talked about this. When I'm handicapping and doing analysis, the first thing I'm looking at is the offensive line. One of the reasons I like the Bengals against the Eagles is because Jordan Milata is out and he's being replaced with a guy named Fred Johnson. he gives up his pressure rate as a left tackle is 22% against opposing defensive ends. The average is 6%. Offensive lines dictate your ability to run the ball, protect the quarterback, score.
Starting point is 00:44:41 It's why I love the Lions so much. It's why we love them so much last week against the Vikings. It's why we hate them. We hate the Giants against the Eagles. I hate the Giants against the Steelers too. It's not a great spot, like a team that's been blown out against a team that did the blowing out, that's a bad formula if you want to be a better. It's very public to take the Steelers right now. I'm not saying it's the wrong side, but it's not the sharp side. Okay, there's always
Starting point is 00:45:09 a game. I'm interested in your opinion. Jets minus 7 at New England. They humiliated New England the first time. Drake may look pretty good last week. The Jets are a circus. I mean, they look like they're significantly worse on defense without their best coach, Robert. Sala. He was their best coach. They're not as good in the two games defensively without him. Offensively, the first game they used motion, Aaron Rogers doesn't like it. By the second game with a new coordinator, their motion was cut in half. That is so Aaron, he doesn't like motion. He wants to go to the line, keep it clean, I'll make the call. It's begging me to take New England. Tell me where I should go. Well, if you want to bet this game, which
Starting point is 00:45:56 you shouldn't want to and you definitely should not want to make it one of your blazing five because you're on a streak right now. You take New England. Like you've got Drake May. He's proving he can throw the ball. You've got a depleted Jets secondary, which we saw last week like every single play. It felt like another Jets player was going out. Even Soss Gardner got banged up a little bit in last week's game.
Starting point is 00:46:22 But you don't want to play this game. Like there are four big-ish underdogs this week, the Jets, the Titans, the Browns, the Raiders. There are two games wise guys want to play the underdogs. One game they completely want to ignore and one game in which they want to play the favorites. The Patriots Jets is the game they want to ignore. All right. You always give me a game that I miss completely. What say you?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Well, look, we talked about some good ones. Indy. I love those games. We talked about Chicago. We haven't talked about Cleveland and Las Vegas. And their matchups against the Ravens and the Chiefs respectively. Just give me one of them. I can't stomach both. Just give me one. Pick one. It's so hard. Like the wise guys love them both. At this point, you're better off just betting the number. And like it's a little bit more of a number, higher number, with the Raiders and the Chiefs. than it is with the Browns and the Ravens. I lean, if I have to choose only one of them, I lean Browns. I think they're closer to getting better.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And again, subscribing to the theory that if I'm going to bet on a really bad team that is a big underdog, I want that team to at least have one dominant unit. And the Browns do have a dominant defensive end in Miles Garrett, who wasn't even on the injury, report this week. They have a dominant cornerback and Denzel Ward who's been playing great all season long. The Ravens do give up a lot of points, most points in the second half this season, along with
Starting point is 00:48:07 the Titans. So there is an opportunity for James if he decides to go crazy in the second half for them to pull off a backdoor cover. I worry about the Raiders. Mahomes has a bad record as a favorite. Yeah. of more than three. But that record has been getting better
Starting point is 00:48:26 the past two seasons. He's nine, six, and one against the spread is a favorite of more than three the past two seasons. So you've got to look at it, not just holistically, but in some recency. And this team, they're turning the ball over. They can't stay on the field on third down. I just worry they're not going to have that many opportunities
Starting point is 00:48:45 to score against a Chief's defense that is pretty good. So the one thing, they have going for them is Brock Bowers has the most receptions for a rookie tight end since 2000. And the one thing that Chiefs haven't been able to do this year, they couldn't guard Kittle, they couldn't guard Isaiah likely, they couldn't guard Mike Keseki for the Bengals. All of them had either close to 100 or just under 100 yards receiving. But none of them won the game.
Starting point is 00:49:16 So I lean Browns, if I have to choose one of them, I don't want to. But that's what I would do. By the way, Packers minus three and a half at the Jaguar screams Jags, doesn't it? Yes, 100%. It screams Jags so much. It's moved from four and a half to three and a half. I think at three and a half, you're sort of at the bleeding edge of what the wise guys would do. They're really not that interested in it, but they would still do it because they're getting the hook.
Starting point is 00:49:45 But you miss the best of the number on that one. Yeah. All right, Chad Mill. You want to talk about the Lions? Well, they played a brilliant football game, and so I don't think teams play perfect back-to-back. So let's discuss the number. So my rule, the biggest number on the board, I throw out. I don't want to be a sucker.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Detroit minus 11.5, hosting Tennessee. So you're off a huge, intense, divisional game. Tennessee is a seller now near the trade deadline. They're moving off people. That worries me in the locker room. You know, Detroit's a better team. What say you on the line? 11 and a half, that's a college line.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Yeah, it's massive and I'd almost always ignore it. But I have bet the lions. Full disclosure, I bet him at 10.5. I don't hate it 11. This game is power rated by professional bettors closer to 13 or 14. But the bookmakers know they can't post a 13. they can't post a 14. They'll immediately get money on Tennessee at that big of a number,
Starting point is 00:50:55 and it's totally realistic for the game to land around 13 or 14. But again, it goes back to the offensive line. This is a dominant team. It is the best team in the NFC, bar none. They are on a collision course with the Chiefs to play in the Super Bowl. Jared Goff is the best quarterback. against the spread in the NFL the past several seasons. The Lions, the past four seasons, 70% against the spread.
Starting point is 00:51:28 That is an unmatched trend for them other than the New England Patriots of their middle aughts dynasty, middle teens dynasty. So I don't hate the Lions here. If I'm betting any of the big favorites, it's going to be on the Lions. Fair enough. Chad Millman, Sharper Square. Get better, get well, my friend. Thank you, sir.
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