The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Secrets Behind Age of Disclosure: Government Hiding Info On UFO's & Aliens

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Colin is joined by Dan Farah, the producer and director of the new documentary The Age of Disclosure They dive into the stunning revelations behind The Age of Disclosure, his new documentary on UAPs and the decades-long retrieval programs operating outside congressional oversight. Farah explains the moment he realized just how extraordinary the story was—the subjects’ accounts all lined up, people only felt safe speaking out together, and evidence pointed to an 80-year effort by the U.S., China, and Russia to locate and study advanced craft. He and Colin discuss why the public deserves transparency, the trillion-dollar scale of the program, and why credible officials—from military base contacts to former intelligence leaders like James Clapper—are now willing to put their reputations on the line. Farah walks through some of the most dramatic moments in the documentary: football-field-sized craft at nuclear bases, physical harm reported by people who got too close, and the “bubble” theory that explains how these objects warp spacetime and evade photography. The conversation explores underwater UAP activity, misguided attempts to engage the craft militarily, and the slow drip of official disclosures—including claims of recovered bodies and technology. Colin even shares his own childhood UFO sighting, as Farah argues that The Age of Disclosure is only the beginning of what the public is about to learn. Timeline: 00:00 Dan Farah joins the Colin Cowherd Podcast  01:45 What was the “Oh shit” momentum you had during the making of the doc? 02:45 It was shocking how many of the subjects stories lined up 03:45 People needed safety in numbers in order to tell their stories 05:00 What is the UAP retrieval program that’s been going on for 80 years? 06:00 The program has been operating outside of congressional oversight 06:45 China and Russia have active UAP retrieval programs 08:00 Public should be informed so we can put more resources into the program 09:45 Did anybody you talked to think it was China beating us in an arms race? 11:30 Need to make the case to the public that we need to win this tech race 13:30 This project has thousands of employees and a trillion dollar budget 15:45 Which military base contact stood out the most to you? 16:45 UAPs show up at bases and nuclear weapons sites 17:45 Football field sized craft appeared at Vandenberg Air Force Base 19:45 Having an experience seeing a UAP will change you forever 20:30 Colin’s experience seeing a UFO when he was younger 21:45 People interviewed who had contact have had negative physical effects 22:30 Getting too close to this technology has caused sickness and cancer 24:15 The “bubble” theory of how the UAP’s work 25:30 The craft are warping space time around themselves 26:30 Inside the bubble the craft aren’t impacted by physics or the environment 27:30 The bubble is why we can’t get good photos of the craft 28:00 This technology is the solution to energy crisis and interstellar travel 30:15 Has there been any pushback to Age of Disclosure?  32:30 Credible people with stellar resumes put their names/reputations on the line 34:00 There’s an enormous amount of UAP activity underneath the ocean 34:30 The ocean is the easiest place to hide from humanity 35:45 UFO became UAP because of the activity underwater 37:15 No reports of UAP’s shooting down planes, few stories of them causing harm 38:00 Humans have fired missiles at UAP’s… not a great idea 39:15 What do we know about Russia’s retrieval program? 40:00 There was a directed energy weapon in craft retrieved by Russia 40:30 Rumors that Trump may disclose the existence of craft/program 42:30 Many of the UFO reports near Vegas turned out to be the stealth bomber 44:30 James Clapper has impeccable resume and had nothing to gain by speaking out 45:30 Area 51 is the epitome of conspiracy and BS, and Clapper confirmed it’s real 46:45 Clapper confirmed they had a program to investigate UAP despite government denials 47:30 There’s a whole lot more information that can’t be lawfully disclosed 48:15 Does the disclosure feel like testing the waters to see how the public reacts? 49:00 We’re in a period of time where the public will continue to learn more 50:15 It feels like we’re slowly getting information parsed to us 51:15 Age of Disclosure sets the table for more information to be released 52:15 Senior official revealed he had seen alien bodies & craft firsthand 54:45 Once the public gets the basic facts, then more information can come out   All lines provided by hardrock.bet (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dan Farah has made a movie that has altered my perception of intelligence beyond our borders and beyond our capabilities. And when I watched Age of Disclosure, and I'm not as cynical today as I was 20 years. ago, and a lot of that's because of videos of craft and technology that were clearly not capable of. And so I thought, I'm going to spend an hour with Dan Farrah. And many of you have seen it. Probably many more of you will see it. And so let's start our interview. Well, for years, I thought Man on Wire was my favorite documentary. And if you've not seen that, I I highly recommend it. But our next guest, Dan Fara, is a director and producer of Age of Disclosure.

And anybody who was listening to my three-hour radio TV show knows, I was much more cynical about Kraft until I saw the Pentagon Leak, New York Times reporting on the Tick-Tac-shaped device. And subsequently, the pilots are pilots freaking out. They were highly credible people. And from that point forward, I think I look at it. I don't feel there's a stigma in America. I don't look at it cynically. Dan Fara has created a documentary, I think, is really, for those of you who have been cynical, age of disclosure. It took, I read three years to produce this, 34 senior intelligence officials, astrophysicists, pilots, people who have been biologically affected. I have to start with this, Dan, over the course of your production of this, this is, this is really a lifetime work. I mean, this is something you're obviously proud of. When was the moment?

Maybe it was an interview. I certainly know I had a couple during the documentary. When was a moment, kind of a jaw dropper or a shit just guy. not real. I am hearing things that even I, you may have questioned or been a bit cynical about. Did you have one of those aha moments? Well, for me, it was when I started to get access at a high level to intelligence officials, military officials, government officials, and got an audience with them in private, before I interviewed them, just private conversations, phones off, real honest, grounded conversations about the reality of this.

For me, the first eye-opening experience was realizing that all these people who have mostly no relationship at all and are ideologically opposed, you know, they all have different worldviews, they all have different political beliefs, they all have different social beliefs. They were all saying the same thing. And it was super eye-opening to me right off the bat. And those first few weeks of going to D.C. and getting these private meetings, it was shocking how lined up they all were on these big truths that have been hidden from the public. And they were also all lined up on why they haven't spoken about it so far. So there's this line that they can't cross, right?

There's classified information that none of these people would ever reveal. But there's a lot that they can lawfully disclose. And for decades, people with that information have just been discouraged from sharing it publicly. For various reasons, threats to their career, threats to their reputation. Some people feared it would cost them their life. And they just decided it was best to keep silent about it. And as I had these conversations with them, I realized that they only were. only way to get these kind of people to speak up with what they lawfully could would be to give

them the platform to do it arm in arm, you know, to have see a number for them all to, you know, step up and speak their truth together. And to do it in a film that is assuring them, hey, you're not going to be intercut with some knucklehead, you know, who's just cool casting or has like an interesting opinion. It's only going to be, I will only interview people who have direct knowledge of this topic as a result of working for the U.S. government, and I'll put you all in the same film together. You can have safety of numbers. There'll be dozens of you. And that was the solution to the problem. But, you know, again, the eye-opening thing for me was just how in sync all of these people were, you know, regardless of their political opinion,

regardless of their, you know, ideologies, like they were all in sync on the reality of the situation. And that just didn't, yeah, that's eye-opening. So let's talk about the retrieval program because that's not something that happened over the last year or two. That is 40, 50 plus years. Eight years. Eight years. Eight years. Eight years total.

And for the uninitiated, the people who have not seen this, and I figure between 30 and 50% of my audience have and, you know, 60 to 50 something thereabouts haven't. Explain what the retrieval program is. that's been going on for 80 years, because we'll make that our starting point. Yeah. So, look, the biggest headline of what's revealed in this film is that the existence of non-human intelligent life, intelligent life that is not human, has been covered up for 80 years. And on top of that, there has been a deeply hidden program within our government system and our military system that has been capturing and retrieving crashed UAP, formally.

known as UFOs, right? And been doing so for 80 years. And they have been actively working behind the scenes to figure out how to reverse engineer this technology, meaning how to recreate it, right? This technology that does things that we don't have the current ability to do. And they are trying to figure out how it works so that we can use that technology. That is the simplest way to say it. Now, people in my film reveal that this program has been operating for 80,

years outside of congressional oversight, meaning it's been hidden from Congress, the people we elect to oversee how our tax dollars are spent, how our country has run, right? This program is operating outside of their oversight. People in the film also reveal that the program has even been operating outside of the oversight of the President of the United States, meaning the public, Congress, and the White House are out of the loop, right? And a number of the people in my film feel like that needs to change because we are now in a very heightened, high-stakes, Cold War technology race with China, because they have the same set of circumstances. They have also been retrieving these crashed UAP, UFOs.

And our intelligence tells us that. Yeah, and that's what the people might film reveal, that China has a very active program, and so does Russia. The biggest concern is China specifically, but China and Russia have programs, and this is a technology race. People in my film refer to it as the Manhattan Project on steroids, you know, the atomic rights, right? Sure.

And so people in my film feel like it's important for this all to come out of the shadows and the base facts to be known so that the U.S. can put more resources towards it. You know, government only puts resources towards what the public demands resources are put towards, right? You know? Right, right. After 9-11, average person in America was like, hey, we got to put more money towards counterterrorism, right?

We need more going on here to fight this stuff. And so what happened? We put tons of resources, funding towards it. The position of the Director of National Intelligence was created to make sure the intelligence community was sharing more information so we could avoid an intelligence failure like 9-11 happening again. And so what the people in my film are essentially saying is, hey, let's not wait until something bad happens on this front.

Let's make the public aware of the base facts of the situation so that the right amount of resources can be put towards it. So the average person can learn what's happening and can make their voice heard to their elected representatives and say, hey, take this more seriously. Put the right resources towards this. And that's really why they're speaking up about this secret program. So in terms of technology, there are things that China is ahead of us, electric vehicles. Some would say 5G. I would say high speed rail.

you could argue that China is our equal. Space technology is, again, they feel like, I feel like they're in our class. And so as I watched the tick talk, tick tack, as I watched the tick tack, that video that came, you know, from the Pentagon, New York Times, I remember opening the paper and thinking, WTF, what is going on? My first thought is, China's ahead of us. Now, there are things, there are economic metrics, Dan, that they're not. And their form of government, I don't think is obviously not as progressive. But there are things that they are ahead of us. And I thought, you know what, they have cracked the code of reverse engineering. That's why, and they may have done it decades ago, because if they can activate and

deactivate nuclear, you know, base weapons, why wouldn't they blow us up? Why wouldn't they so doubt and chaos? Why would they do this covertly? So are there anybody in our 34 insiders that you talk to that think maybe a big part of this is China beating us to the race, not wanting to start World War III, but if they can deactivate nuclear sites, which has been discussed and has happened, they're testing stuff, and they're simply ahead of us. They don't want to start war, but they want to end it and control us. Is that possible? Well, look, anything's obviously possible, but the people I interviewed made it clear that this high-stakes race with China is a very close race. And, you know, Senator Rounds from South Dakota, who's a very

senior guy in the U.S. Senate, he says in the film, he says, you know, do you think that Putin and she would hesitate for even a second to use this technology for their global domination if they didn't think we, the U.S., had access to the same technology? And that was a really bombshell line in the film and a big statement by him because it sheds light on how real this technology race is. Both countries have made progress clearly. And, you know, there's a general belief, that we would benefit from general belief amongst people I interviewed, that we would benefit as a nation if the base facts were made public. And the analogy a lot of these guys made with me is,

you know, when we entered the space race, Kennedy gave that big famous, you know, rally speech, where he said, you know, we are determined to win this race. And he speaks about the space technology. He says space technology is like nuclear technology. It has no conscious of its own. It's up to mankind to either use, that technology for good or for bad, for peace or for war, right?

And his whole point was he wanted the U.S. to lead the way in the space race so that the U.S. could make sure that technology is used for the betterment of mankind and not for war. And it's the same situation here. And I don't think, and a lot of people I've interviewed have made it clear to me, that they don't think we would have won the space race if that speech hadn't happened and made it clear to the public that this was a real thing. Because what happened as a result of that is people in the scientific community, and people in academia could say to themselves, hey, I can put my brain power towards this. I can help the U.S. win, right?

They, you know, they can apply themselves to that effort. Whereas now this situation is so hidden in secrecy, the average scientist, the average person at, you know, at, you know, academia, these like, you know, super smart people that are at MIT and all these fancy schools, they don't even know this is real, right? And obviously, they can't help us win this race if they don't know it's real, you know?

Right. And that's another reason for the age of disclosure. People are pressing this. The Manhattan Project, of course, there were, I think, 130,000 people involved. U.K., Canada, the United States, the Manhattan Project, it was, you know, the nuclear bomb. Do we have a sense between the number of people, 130,000 people in America is a large corporation? Yeah. But given the time of the Manhattan Project, it's a remarkable number of people working on something covertly. Do we have any idea that the volume, Dan, the number of people between defense contractors, CIA, Air Force, intelligent officials, what is the number we're talking about, the people that have knowledge and that are working on retrieval programs and advancement of devices and craft? Yeah, this is one of the fascinating thoughts. Like I've been told off the record that this is not a small program, that this is thousands of people employed full time, and that it's been the case for eight years. And I've been told that the overall budget of this situation is close to a trillion dollars.

This is billions of a year for 80 years and to people who focus on this every single day. And every time I've thought about that, it's. It's really a head scratcher because what it leads you to is, you know, the guy you're sitting next to on the bleachers at your kid's Lily baseball game, you know, he might have just spent his day working on this stuff. And you think he's, you know, a UPS driver, you know, or like, you know, the family across from you at the local pizza place, the dad might be dealing with non-human technology all day in this high-stakes race. And his family doesn't know about it. His neighbors don't know about it. He don't know about it. These are normal people who are living amongst us who have the job of dealing with this, you know.

And that's a pretty remarkable thought. But it was the case with the Manhattan Project, too. Like you said, lots of people going to work every day, working on this atomic race. You know, the stakes were the future of humanity back then, whether it was going to help us win World War II or not. And they were dealing with this. They were falling asleep with that on their shoulders. And their neighbors had no clue. Their family had no clue, you know?

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You went in and zoned in on these bases and told stories. And these were people that were older. They were not hyperbolic. They almost felt as if. if they were ashamed, they hadn't told the story earlier. They were, they were, that's what it felt like to me. They felt like, listen, I'm telling you this story. I mean, what in the world could it have been?

I didn't know. They felt guilty for not telling it earlier. Yeah. Of all those base stories, and there's four or five you illustrate, and it's really worth watching for that five-minute part of the documentary, which one to you, I mean, because they all felt so real. And there's no reason at this point you're retired to, you know, know, ad libid or disclose information that's not forthright and honest.

Yeah. Which one of those base experiences to you, is there one you still think about or one that had the most impact to you? Yeah, for sure. One really stands out to me, but first I'll tell you, look, you interview people every day. This film, this was the first documentary I directed and the first time I conducted interviews, right? And I really truly felt it.

When they were sharing their truths and their experiences, I felt like these people were just getting a weight off their shoulder and relieved to finally talk about it. They wanted the world to know the truth. They felt the world deserved to know the truth. So the activity at bases, the UAP basis over military bases, it's not just military base. It's also our nuclear weapons sites. And it's active. It's an ongoing issue. And I interviewed a number of military officials who experienced.

experienced events that happened in our classified airspace over military bases. And one that really stands out took place at Vanderberg Air Force Base. I'm in Los Angeles right now as I talk to you. And just up the coast like two hours is Vanderbord right around Santa Barbara area. And I interviewed a Air Force security guard whose job at the time was to guard nuclear weapons, like a guy we clearly trust, right? Like not a not a crazy person. like someone put in a in a very trusted position and he was amongst it was five or six other

air force security guards at the time they saw a light coming off the coast the pacific coast towards the base at first they thought it was an airplane that was flying towards them they just saw a single light and then as it got closer the light went away and what came into view was a giant what they described as a giant craft the size of a football field it puts his arms out like this and says it was the size of a football field it was retangular It was matte black, no lights, no visible means of propulsion, and it was just there. And it came over the base, over their heads, and it hovered over their heads. And they said they just looked up in awe and shocked at this extraordinary thing that just defied everything they knew about reality.

And then it shot off at thousands of miles an hour. Obviously, you know, mankind has never made a craft the size of a football field that could fly with no propulsion system and no lights and then shoot off at thousands of miles an hour. And, you know, hearing this, this person tell this story was extraordinary. He had never spoken up publicly about it. This was his first time going public after a month. Wow. He had no desire previously to talk about it. But when he learned about, you know, who was speaking up in this film and revealing the truth,

he felt like it was important for him to join that and share his truth. But it was also extraordinary on top of that is after talking to him, I talked to other Air Force security guards that were on the base that day, and they all told the same thing. They all had the same story from different perspectives. And then a couple of them actually slipped me the police report, the Air Force Security Police report, that had the details in it. And it's a real situation that actually happened. And that is extraordinary. The idea that there are human beings out there in our country that have had these experiences, you know,

And I was talking about this with Joe Rogan last week. I'll ask you, like, think about, like, put yourself in the shoes of this guy. What would your reaction be? You look up and you see a UFO the size of a football field just above you, and it takes off thousands of miles an hour. It's, you know, that's so insane and such a, like, departure from what we know to, you know, be reality, right? It's got to just forever change you.

And I think these people have these experiences, I think they are forever changed by them. Well, I've told my audience this, I think once before. I had an experience years ago. I was in college. I was in a car. I believe it was a AMC PACER. My dad had got from his friend who was a car dealer. Wow.

And I had driven from college with Mark Fisher, who was my friend. And we were in a very rural area in Grayland, Washington. And we pulled up to my house, which had a long driveway. and I had a Frank Lloyd Wright house. I've told this once or twice before, and I saw a light above the house. And it was a very rural road. So Mark was sleeping, and I said, hey, dude, look, look, what is that?

It was very small hovering right over our house, multiple lights. And as I pulled up our driveway, it shot out and up. Wow. And I went, okay, I'm going to take Mark home. I did. I came back. I came. And my mom, she was up, actually, because I driven from college.

And she wanted to make sure I was safe. I said, did you hear anything? She goes, she was British. No, darling. I didn't hear anything. Wow. I said nothing, a humming, anything. So I always chalked it up.

My town was small. We didn't have helicopters in my town. It wasn't a small plane because it hovered and then it went out and up. And it was, I was thinking as I was taking the train in Chicago, I'm in L.A. some, but Chicago more. And I was thinking, I'm not going to waste his time with this story. But now we can, you know, kind of segue to it as, you know, you know, There have been Aaron Rogers has talked about this. Baker Mayfield, who I, you know, I didn't chide, but I sort of poked fun of him. I said, I don't want my quarterbacks talking UFOs, right? This is an adult position. But the truth is a lot of people who have nothing to gain from it have had these experiences. What I thought was really fascinating is the negative biological effects of people you interviewed of your 34 and senior intelligence officials who have come in contact with not only

craft, but I guess I would say lack of a better word, aliens. Yes. That have had very negative physical biological effects. Take our audience there because that to me, again, to say that publicly, to say it privately at a party is one thing. To say it publicly is mind-blowing to me. I don't remember anybody of that level ever. We're saying that publicly.

Yeah. Yeah. So one of the big reveals that came out making this doc is that intelligence officials, military officials who have encountered UAP, UFOs, have had biological effects, meaning getting too close to this technology has negatively impacted them, their health, their bodies, in some cases, cause cancer. And, you know, it's understandable because this is a technology that we don't fully understand, and it's extremely powerful and it gives off a lot of energy.

So the analogy is like, hey, if you didn't know what an F-16 was and you went and stood behind it when it was taken off, you're going to get F-ed up, you know? Like, it's not great. Yeah. And so, you know, I think what we're learning is that this technology is far outside our understanding in every way. And yes, there's been a number of intelligence officials and military officials who have had severe health issues and some people. people have passed away from cancer that they got by being too close to UFOs. And that's a darker part of this whole truth that is coming out now. And it is shocking.

Yeah. Dan Fara is joining us, director and producer, Age of Disclosure. What has been interesting is since you have done this documentary, there's been other pieces of video that have run even on the network nightly news. One in particular is what appears to be a UAP, I think it's Yemen, and we fire at it, and the missile or the shot goes through it, bounces through it, which based on the bubble wrap theory in your documentary is explainable. So the nightly news couldn't explain it. Yeah. But I want you to talk about the two physicists that talked about the bubble wrap theory because I have seen,

and many people who have seen these UAPs, there is almost a muted look, like they're inside something. And if you could, let's talk about the bubble wrap theory. It's about a three to five minute discussion. And it really, to me, it was a pivotal moment because a lot of these things look different. The ones I've always struggled with is the ones that appear to have a circular, device or a shield around them, and it was described by your physicists. Yeah. So over the years, there's been a lot of flight performance characteristics that have been observed

when people see UAP. They see them doing these performance characteristics that defied physics as we know it, right? And a couple of the very senior scientists that I interviewed who worked on classified UAP programs for the U.S. government, they reveal in the film that they have figured. out how this technology works, how these UAP are doing what they're doing. And simply put, these craft are generating a significant amount of energy, and they're creating a, they're essentially warping space time, which sounds like something out of a science fiction movie.

I understand that. Right. But they are saying what the scientists reveal is that they are warping space time in a localized area, and they're creating a bubble around the craft. And essentially, the simplest way to say it, is that bubble creates a barrier between the environment the craft, the craft is in, and our environment. So the laws that, you know, define what you can do, you know, what physics allows you to do in our environment are no longer applicable, right?

So what happens in that bubble is completely different than what happens outside the bubble. So they might be moving along, having a Sunday stroll like a leisurely flight, right? And to us, it looks like they're going at these impossible speeds. It explains everything. It explains why transmedium travel is observed. We see these craft going from space to the air to the ocean seamlessly through these separate environments, which is not something our aircraft can do. But once you understand that they're in their own space-time environment, they're within this bubble, then it makes sense because the bubble and everything in it is not impacted by the environment around it. It also explains why we've had so much trouble getting these things on radar,

because the way radar works is a radar emitter, shoots radar at an object, and then it bounces back to the radar emitter, and that's how you figure out where the thing is, right? But in this case, the radar is just bouncing around the bubble and continuing on, right? It also explains, you know, the answer to the age-old question of why is it so hard to get a good photo or video of a UFO? The simple answer is because we're taking photos and videos through a space-time barrier through this bubble. It's the equivalent of trying to take pictures of fish under the ocean from above the ocean. You can't do it. No one would ever be like, hey, I'm trying to take a picture of these fish in this coy pond and it looks all blurry.

Why is that happening? You'd be like, well, moron, you're taking a picture from above the water to something in the water, right? And it's the same thing here. Like, you can't get a good picture of these things because we're trying to take photos through a space time barrier, through this bubble that's been created. And this warp bubble is the key to that technology. And what's also extraordinary about it is, as these scientists say, this technology, this ability to generate this immense amount of energy in a localized area and create this warp bubble, it is, in their opinion, the key to interstellar travel. It's the key to basically the next chapter for humanity, right? It's a solution to the energy crisis.

They are creating immense amount of energy, and they're tapping in energy that we haven't figured out how to tap into yet, right? that could solve one of the biggest problems humanity has, the energy crisis. It could set up future generations for a much better life. And then, you know, in terms of, you know, opening the door to interstellar travel, they could just expand, you know, mankind's exploration of the galaxy. The possibilities are limitless. One of the other big things talked about with regard to the technology is once we start making this information known to actually,

academia and the scientific community, then they can put their brain power towards it. And who knows what else comes off the back of that? You know, the space race was a single mission to get to the moon, right? But the process led to something like 35,000 other inventions coming off the back of it that have benefited us, like things we don't even think about. Like, you know, I think Velcro and microwaves and like things we use. Yeah, right? And you don't know what will come off the back of something like this. So, yeah, that sequence in the film is one of my favorite sequence of the film because the two people who speak are incredibly intelligent.

They're quantum physicists. They worked as senior scientists on these classified UAP programs for the government. And they're just straight up revealing how this technology works. And it's stated in such a simple way that you don't need to be a rocket scientist to follow it, you know? And it all makes sense. And it's really inspiring. How has the UFO community, I would be considered a normie, right? Like when I said how much I loved your film, your documentary, you know, a few people push back.

Oh, now the normies are talking about it. But I can sense because you're getting such legitimate corporate discussion. nightly news, major cable programs. Joe Rogan has always had a great interest in this. But because you're getting so much credit and so much discourse and discussion, has there been any pushback from, you know, nobody's ever done this. Nobody's ever had 34 senior intelligence officials. And the documentary beyond that is so brilliantly made.

Thank you. Has there been any pushback or have you been universally accepted and celebrated? Well, look, I think before the movie came out, I certainly dealt with some people who were causing problems for me behind the scenes. And there were a number of people who wished this movie didn't exist, wish I hadn't made it, wish it wouldn't get released. I overcame all that and obviously got the movie out there. I think that the response to the film has been so overwhelmingly supportive. And as you said, in an unprecedented way, is getting serious news coverage. And I was on Jake Tapper on CNN.

Yes. Hannity and Brett Barr on Fox. And New York Times did a big piece about a secret screening I held for Congress a couple weeks ago, how important that was. And so I think all of that is making people realize how important this is. And it's overcoming those who would want to cause problems. But there are still bad actors on social media. I'm aware of people who are paid bad actors who are.

actually on social media paid to just wake up every morning and disparage this film and the people in it. Yes. Take shots at it. And that's a very real thing. They're not the smoothest operators because once you realize they're doing. I can tell. I mean, some of it's so obvious.

You're like, no one spends this much time ragging on the same thing unless it's their job. And guess what? It is your job. You know, like so, but you know what? I think the reality of it is, the good guys win in the end. and, you know, the truth will prevail. And this film is 34 people, arm in arm, putting their credibility on the line

to share their truth. And I think ultimately that that's, any of these bad actors on social media, just making up disparaging negative stuff, I just think it's noise and the truth is, the truth is going to win. And, you know, speaking of 34 people, the thing everyone's got to remember,

this day and age, you could put a 4K video of that giant craft that went over Vanderberg online and half the human population will think it's AI. They'll be like, oh, some Hollywood producer made that with visual effects or this or that, right? But people, credible people, with amazing resumes and lots of credibility, putting their name and reputation on the line and going on camera on the record, revealing this information. To me, that is the strongest evidence you could hope for. and I think it's going to ultimately overshadow any bad actors online who are, you know, saying disparaging things.

Only 27% of the ocean is mapped. Many of these videos, these craft, have been in and out of the water. There's two or three that are more prominent that I think almost everybody listening to this will have seen. Were there discussions with any of the people that you talk to? that believe that's their primary base on this planet. Or is it something they can, you know, they can activate, they can hide? Or does it go deeper than that? Sometimes, by the way, when you do a documentary, there's some stuff that may be interesting,

but doesn't make the cut. Yeah. You guys didn't spend a ton of time on the ocean. Yeah. And my take is because you didn't want a six-hour documentary. But in, but when you talk to these, intelligence officials, the 34 people, is there a sense that there are bases, a base,

or there's a lot more activity in the infrequently mapped oceans that's going on? Yeah, there's an enormous amount of activity in oceans that I've learned about. And yes, the only reason I didn't go deeper into the ocean is just because I had to get this documentary under two hours where people would kill me. But yes, so everyone I interviewed was of the same mindset and thought that the most obvious place for the UAP to hide is the ocean because the majority of our planet is the ocean and it's the easiest place to hide from humanity on top of that there's been a lot of activity recorded by our military

and talents committee under the ocean there have been reports of craft the size of football fields again moving at hundreds of miles an hour under the ocean which is not something we have the capability to do, you know, and it's extraordinary. There are definitely hot spots. There are. Congressman Tim Burchett actually recently talked about it publicly in an interview that there's four or five hotspots that are believed to be either maybe their bases, maybe it's just a lot of activity there.

We don't know. That's yet to come out. But there's a lot of activity out of the ocean. And that's also, you know, for people who haven't really looked in this topic and they hear, okay, now people are calling UFOs UAP. Why did that change happen? The primary change is UFO stood for unidentified flying object. UAP stands for unidentified anomalous phenomena.

And that is because it covers activity under the ocean and not just in the sky. Because the things underwater are not flying technically, right? Yeah. But there is a tremendous amount of UAP activity in our ocean. And as Congressman Carson, one of the senior members of Congress in my film reveals, they have lots of reports of these craft coming out of the ocean. And as he says, these aren't rockets, they're not aircraft, they're otherworldly things. He literally says that on camera.

And he's a very senior member of Congress. He's on the House Intelligence Committee. He was on the House Committee for the Central Intelligence Agency. Really smart, senior thoughtful guy. Yeah, so there's a there there. real situation and it's fascinating. Football seasons here and if you want to go to an NFL or college football game, game time is the place for you. The game time app just gives you the advantage back to you, the fans. It's a hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences and a few taps. I love it.

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I've watched so many interviews with you and others in regards to Bush having like a meeting, a private meeting. Should we talk about this to the public? There's been suggestions. Trump will. But it can affect our economy and how do you present it? But has there ever been privately not discussed? Has there been a pilot shot down, a ship attacked to that level of violence? I haven't heard anything about an aircraft being shot down.

There are stories of events that happened in the past of UAP causing seemingly intentional biological effects. There's some historical events that happen in other countries where UFOs seem to have intentional encounters with people and cause harm to them. but overall, there's not a lot of those stories. One of the big reveals in the film, a senior intelligence official, Hal Pudoff, reveals that we have actually fired missiles at UAP, that humans have. And obviously, that's a bit of a slippery slope. And probably not a great idea.

Right. I'm interested going back to the retrieval programs that our intelligence discovered that Russia had retrieved because Russia, the United States and the U.S. are the three countries that we, I think we broadly believe, at least we have access to their access. If you could talk about, I think it was in the late 80s, Dan. again, a tick-tack, although larger than the one we saw on the Pentagon footage, the Russia encounter or retrieval of some note that has sort of changed their perception and perhaps created their retrieval program and their program, all these programs sound like they're being ramped up over the last 80 years. Can we talk about the Russia invasion or retrieval moment? Two of the senior scientists who were in my film who worked on UAP programs for the government, they go on the record and say that the U.S. government is aware of retrievals in Russia of UAP,

and one of them specifically they hone in on was a Tick-Tac-shaped UFO, UAP, that was significantly larger than the Tick-TAC UAP that the Nimitz Carrier Strike grew. encountered 20 years ago, the incident we know is the Tic Tac UFO, right? So much bigger than that, and it was recovered in Russia. And apparently there was a very advanced directed energy weapon in that craft. And yeah, that's alarming, that that kind of technology, you know, has been in the hands of an adversarial nation since the 80s. And it's not the only time it's happened. the suggestion that Trump perhaps would go public with the acknowledgement of all this. What do you make of those reports?

So people in the film reveal that there's been a few occasions where a sitting president has contemplated going to the microphone and telling the world the base facts that they learned, that we're not alone in the universe. There's a story in the film about Bush II contemplating doing it. One of the intelligence officials in the film goes on the record saying he was part of a think tank that the Bush administration put together to determine whether it would be a good idea or not to go public and that their decision was not to do it, obviously, at the time. That was Bush 2. There's another intelligence official, very senior guy in the film, who goes on the record saying that during the first Trump administration, Trump contemplated just sharing the base facts that he had learned that were not alone in the universe. and that Secretary Manusian, who was the Secretary of Treasury at the time, called this intelligence official in and asked him for a briefing on the reality of the situation.

And he explains this intelligence official. He said the reason I'm asking you is I want to be able to think about what the economic repercussions will be if President Trump decides to step to the microphone until the world we're not alone. And so these people in my film reveal that this almost happened a couple times. And now I do think that this film sets the stage for him to comfortably do that. I don't know if he will choose to do it. Obviously, only he can make that decision. But I think this film makes it, you know, extremely clear to the average person that this is a real situation, that there's real stakes, and that the average American is owed some basic level of transparency on this from the president. And so, you know, we'll see.

Time will tell if he uses this opportunity to comfortably step to the microphone and tell the world we're not alone. It would certainly be one of the biggest moments in human history if he did. But we will see. I think it's only a matter of time, though, before a sitting president does decide to do that. Dan Farr, a director of producer, Age of Disclosure. I worked in Las Vegas as a sportscaster. Area 51 was understood, and it was newsworthy at the time. and over the course of about a two to three year period, we had a reporter, that was one of his beats, Area 51, Dan Burns.

And the activity ramped up substantially over about a two-year period. Then stealth fighters emerged from our country. And so as Dan in some of his reporting, which was accurate, many of the triangle-shaped lights seen over a two-to-three-year period was the development of stealth. Bob Lazar made a name for himself years ago. His background has sometimes not checked out, not a knock at Bob, but that's the reality. I looked up as Wikipedia page for the first time ever. So Area 51 is something that gets discussed. I thought one of the, and all the moments were credible, but James Clapper, who is now in his 80s, has no reason to be involved in this at all. you know, again, this is because the stigma has, to a large degree, died. But James Clapper came on and share it with the listeners now.

Yeah. He acknowledged. And, I mean, it was a real moment where I went, okay, time out. James Clapper, he's been with multiple White House, multiple presidents. Was that a wow moment for you? Yeah, that was a significant wow moment for me. And just, you know, for your audience, James Clapper was the director of national intelligence. you know, the highest level position in the intelligence community.

He was the head of Air Force intelligence. He was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency and a number of other agencies. His resume reads like a Marvel character. It is a ridiculous resume that no one else has, like, incomparable resume and credibility. And a very serious guy. And he's in his 80s. When I did the interview, he was already in his 80s. at the time, to give some other color to it, at the time, his wife was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, in her, in her, in her final days. And, and despite that and despite

being an amazing loyal husband who was, like, there for her every day at the hospital, he left the hospital to come do this interview. And I really have a lot of respect for him for doing that. He told me he thought it was important to still do it. I remember, hey, should we reschedule this? Should we not do this today? And he was like, no, this is important. Let's do it. And he shared what he lawfully could. And one of those big things he shared was that UAP activity over our sensitive military bases and training sites is very real and very active. Especially, he said, our ranges out west and the west side of the United States.

And he specifically said, most notably, Area 51. And that's such a big statement because, you know, UAP activity, UFO activity over Area 51 is widely considered, you know, the epitome of conspiracy, right? And like bullshit. Like your average person thinks, oh, that's bullshit. That's, there's nothing there, right? And here's this extremely credible intelligence official who ran Air Force intelligence saying, no, that is real. That is a real situation. UFO activity over Area 51 is real.

And I remember when he said it. he said it so naturally. And then there was a part of me that felt like he was like, oh, why'd I say that? You know, there was I felt it like, oh, that came out, but it's the truth. So it is what it is. And he kind of put his head down for a second and realized, you know, how significant what he just said was. And in that moment, I turned around to a couple other people that were in the room. Some other intelligence officials were there because they were going to do interviews with me next.

And I looked at them and their jaws were on the floor because it's such a big statement from a guy like that. And yeah, I have a lot of respect for him for sharing that with us. And I think he probably felt a responsibility to share what he could. A civic duty almost. Yeah. He also shared in that interview that despite the U.S. Air Force saying that they haven't had an active investigation to study this stuff or investigate this stuff since the closure of Project Blue Book, which we have all heard about, you know. Project Buba closed in the late 70s,

and the Air Force has consistently taken the position, even as recent as a couple months ago, that they have not had a program to investigate UAP since then. But Jim Clapper says on camera on the record that when he was running Air Force Intelligence, they did, in fact, have a program to investigate UAP. So he dropped some very significant statements in the film, and I think he did us all service

by opening our eyes to the truth that he could share. And, you know, the thing for everyone to remember when they watch this film and they see these extraordinary statements made by credible people is this is just what they can lawfully disclose. There's a whole lot more on the other side of that line that you just have to use your imagination and think about what could be there. And that's a pretty wild thought. I've spent a lot of time thinking about that. And if these extraordinary bombshell statements, this paradigm shift information, they can lawfully disclose is so. big and so significant. What the hell is on the other side of that line? What's the other stuff that they can't talk about? Dan, my theory would be is they are testing the reaction. My theory is these,

including James Clapper, are testing the waters. They are seeing the reaction. They're finding out that it is now publicly credible and that it's the first step of a second or a third. third evolution of information and disclosure. That was my takeaway watching this, which is what they're allowed to say, they're kind of putting everybody's foot in the water. Yeah. There will be a second or a third evolution of this, perhaps a president. Does that seem too random and too conspiratorial? No, I think that's 100% of the case. You know, I called the movie The Age of disclosure, because as I was making it, it became clear that this film was the beginning of the age of disclosure, of a period of time in which a lot of information will come out. You know, it's not a, it's not a singular event. It's going to be a period of time where we all slowly learn the reality of the situation.

And what I would suspect is on the other side of that line is events, like contact events, and technological advancements that sound like the stuff of science fiction, but that have in fact been figured out. I think that's where it goes. Dan, I mean, have you noticed the timing about every six weeks, now, there's a new piece of video, which wasn't discovered within the month. I feel like stuff is being leaked. There's a plan. About every six weeks, every eight weeks, there's another piece of video, the Yemen video, I believe it was there, where you see a high speed craft. We shoot at it and it goes right through its bubble or its force, its field. I, again, that sound, I'm not a

conspiracy conspiracy theory person but it does feel like it's we're getting information parsed to us as it's almost like a guidebook okay here's the big documentary here's senior officials here's more video that's what it feels like to yeah look when i was making the documentary at some point in the process early on i realized that this film i was making as a as a normal person outside of this world like trying to uncover what can lawful be talked about and and learn the truth. Somewhere in that process, my film became the vehicle for people in the know to bring about disclosure. Like, it became a number of these people's plan for disclosure, where people who are aware of significant information and wanted to find a way

to disclose the public, they decided my film would be that vehicle. And, And then once that decision was made, I think a lot got held for after the movie. And so the movie coming out, I think, is setting the table for a lot more coming out, is the simplest way to say. I really believe that to be true. And in some cases, I know for sure to be true. I mean, I know some people who are, you know, Jay Stratton, for example, is in my film. Jay Stratton is the most senior intelligence official to ever investigate UAP and nonhuman

intelligent life for the U.S. government. He did it for 16 years, like a real-life molar from X-Files. This was his job, right? He was the director of the UAP Task Force, the largest whole of government investigation at UAP. He, when he retired, he was a senior executive, he was a member of the senior executive services of the Defense Intelligence Agency to, you know, to, you know, basically the civilian equivalent of a two-star admiral, extremely serious, very credible guy.

He reveals in the film that he has seen non-human beings and non-human craft. He reveals details like there were bodies recovered at Roswell, non-human bodies. He reveals where they were brought to. He reveals how he uncovered the deeply hidden crash retrieval and reverse engineering program and how they created obstacles for him trying to get to the truth. He reveals a lot of information. He's also got a book coming out early next year. That's his tell-all memoir, where he shares even more.

And then I know after the book comes out, he's going to share even more after that. So a lot of these people who participate in the film are aware of so much information, and they're also aware of how people digest information. You can't, you can't tell, you can't share everything at the same time. just too overwhelming. And I think the film plays a really important role of establishing the lay of the land and the base facts and who's involved and why it's complicated. It answers basic questions the average person has, like, why has this been kept secret for so long? Why should it now be made more public? What are the concerns we have to have? You know, all these basic

questions, the lay of the land. I think this film really lays that out. And, you know, it's a complicated situation that's been going on for 80 years. But I tell you, Colin, when I was making it, a big goal for me was to make it digestible to the average person. And I just kept thinking of my parents who were in their mid-70s and live in Jersey and are normal middle class people. And, you know, I just kept thinking, okay, at every turn making this movie, like, is the information going to be too overwhelming? It's going to be too much. Is it going to be the kind of thing where you watch it and then you can't remember anything because there's so much information, right? And so it was really important for me to make this film very digestible, easy to understand, like give the average person who doesn't know anything about the situation, a clear understanding of the lay of the land.

They can walk away from this film and really get it, you know, this kind of thing. You can watch this film, you could tell your friends, hey, this is what I learned. This is why we're in this situation. This is what's been going on. These are the players. this is the pros and cons of the situation. This is why we got to worry about it. These base facts.

And I think the response I'm seeing is that that worked and it's really opening a lot of people's eyes. And so yes, I think there will be more after that. Once people understand the base facts and the lay of the land, then more can come out. Yeah, you definitely landed. You landed it. Dan Farah, director, producer, age of disclosure. Dan, where do I watch this if I just popped into this? And I'm not exactly sure how to view it tonight.

Cool. So everyone in the world can watch the movie on Prime Video. You do not have to have a prime subscription. You can just go to Prime Video. You can rent it. You can purchase it. It's available in every country around the world and with subtitles in every major language. So I encourage everyone to watch it and tell their friends and family and join the conversation about this issue.

I'm so appreciative of you taking time. It's been really, for me, an attitude-altering documentary. Thank you. And I think I'm reasonably curious. I appreciate your work and your excellence and your devotion to it. And Dan, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

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