The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - USC + UCLA to B1G Reaction, Chris Mannix on KD, Kyrie Landing Spots

Episode Date: July 1, 2022

First, Colin gives his thoughts on the seismic college football landscape shift with USC and UCLA heading to the B1G and why he’s giving KD credit for moving on from Kyrie. Then, SI Senior NBA Writer - and host of Boxing with Chris Mannix - Chris Mannix and Colin discuss the best landing spots for KD, which dark horse team to keep an eye on, if Kyrie to the Lakers is a likely possibility. Mannix Also unravels Brian Windhorst’s enigmatic viral comments about Danny Ainge’s Jazz moves, and reveals which star could be on the move to the Heat. Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #Herd See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm still on vacation. It's Friday morning at about, you know, I was in Turks and Kekos yesterday at an airport when about 9 a.m., which is 6 a.m. Pacific time, I got a call saying USC and UCLA were headed to the Big Ten. And my initial thought was great because college football is not right right now. It's in a seven-year attendance decline and TV rating. climb. So I don't want to hear how everything's good. There's too many crappy games. Go look at Labor Day weekend this weekend. The week before the NFL starts, there's not five watchable games. It's junk mail. The sport needs more quality games. So holistically, I now get USC Ohio State, USC Michigan, USC Penn State, USC Wisconsin, USC Michigan State. Those are bigger games. UCLA, Ohio State.

not UCLA Washington State, UCLA Colorado, UCLA Oregon. College football needs more great games. Go look at Alabama schedule. Maybe three games, you have to watch. And then seven to eight blowouts. That's what makes the NFL so compelling. Week in, week out, not just the parody, because we know college football will never have parity,

but on multiple platforms. It doesn't matter if you're watching the Red Zone, Fox, CBS, Monday night football, Thursday night football, the games are competitive and there's just a conveyor belt of wildly entertaining

close football games. So for the sport, the improvement of Texas, Oklahoma, going to the SEC, it's going to be more great games. Oklahoma, Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU,

Texas, Georgia. Yes. College football football. ball's pruning its tree and the very best are joining the very best. So USC and UCLA against more quality Big Ten schools. Colin, you're just talking about this is good for TV. Yeah, champ, that's what's driving the sport. But it's amateurism. So is the Olympics. What drives it? NBC. Why does it end up in certain countries? Money. You're naive if you do not think television networks and money are driving the sport.

It has to. Nothing else collegially makes any money. Wisconsin has 35 sports. 31 hemorrhage money. Somebody's got to pay the bills. It's football for every athletic department of note in America. So this is great holistically for the sport. More big games.

Secondly, is it good for the Big Ten? It's great for the Big Ten. USC and UCLA's basketball programs? Los Angeles, Recruiting now available for Big Ten schools where the Big Ten basketball coaches can tell all the recruits. Oh, yeah. ULA guys, we'll be back. Yeah.

Your parents can watch us. We'll be coming there annually. It's great for Big Ten basketball. It's great for Big Ten football. It gives them the state of California. Listen, it is hard to pry great high school basketball football players out of the South. They want to stay close to home. The SEC's got great college football and basketball.

West Coast? Not really. The Big Ten. So let's look big picture great for the sport. It's also big picture great for the Big Ten. They add two L.A. schools. UCLA and USC, is it good for them? Yeah. They go to the second or first biggest revenue conference in college football. Let me sum it up. USC makes $30 million a year from the PAC 12 TV deal. They'll make over $70 million a year in the Big Ten deal. You tell me, they don't mind split money with Michigan and Ohio State. They don't want to split money with Washington State, Colorado, Utah, Arizona football. They don't want to split that money anymore.

So they're going to drive far more revenue. It's also great for USC and UCLA because when Pete Carroll was here, in the bus for USC football, there was no NFL in town. So you have two new NFL teams. Remember, most guys with their girlfriends or their wives, and most women, if they love sports, you can't give your weekend to sports for most people. Used to be Saturday was a football day in Los Angeles. There was no NFL. Now you have two NFL teams. I got Justin Herbert and the Chargers. I got Matt Stafford, Jean McVeigh and the Rams. A lot of people, they don't get both days to just go to football games. So you need to have more quality opponents.

Guess what conference travels better than any other. The Big Ten, Nebraska travels, Iowa travels, Wisconsin travels, Michigan travels, Ohio State travels. So USC and UCLA could get 15,000 to 20,000 Midwest fans who either live in the West. They live in Nevada. They live in Arizona. They live in California. They live in Northern California. 15, 20,000 of those fans.

jam in to the stadium. That's not good for college football. It's great for USC and UCLA. It's great for the big tent. It's good for Fox Sports, my employer. It's great holistically for the sport. Listen, so many people are tied to tradition. I get it.

I get it. But what tradition are you giving up? I mean, years and years and years ago, I'm watching Vince Young in Texas beat Michigan in one of the great Rose Bulls I've ever watched. At that point, I gave up the Rose Bowl. as having to be a Big Ten team and a Pac-12 team. The Pac-12 simply hasn't held up its end of the bargain.

You can blame Larry Scott, the commissioner. The truth is, we have more pro sports here. We got more things to do out west. The economy's great. We got mountains everywhere. We got lakes everywhere. We got pro teams everywhere. I mean, the Colorado Buffaloes have to compete against the avalanche and the Rockies and

Russell Wilson and the Broncos. And in the south, that college football program, it's everything in the community. It's everything within 50 miles to 100 miles. It's easier in the Big 10 footprint and the SEC footprint and the Big 12 footprint to get big crowds. In Norman, Oklahoma, that's what matters. Sooner football, sooner basketball, sooner sports, in Los Angeles. Two baseball, two NFL, two NBA, L-AFC. We got a beach.

We got mountains. We got shopping. USC and UCLA are going to more than double their annual television income. They're going to fill their stadiums with amazing Wisconsin fans and Hawkeye fans and Nittany Lion fans and Nebraska fans, Buckeye, Wolverine, Spartan fans, win, win, win, win, win, win. More TV games, more pack stadiums, more revenue, more guaranteed revenue. It's a win across the board. Yeah, they're going to have to travel a lot.

You only play like five road games a year. Oh, it's going to be cold and damp. Really? How many Blizzard Big Ten games you watched last year? Folks, a majority of college football is September, October, and done by November 20th. That's a majority of it. There'll be years that USC and UCLA never see a storm. And if they do, the other team's got to play in it as well.

It is wonderful to me for everybody. And when I first heard it yesterday on vacation, My takeaway is I am more excited for the future of college football than ever before. Ooh, I'm going to lose out on some UCLA Oregon State games. I wasn't watching them anyway. Let's talk NBA. You know how I feel about Kevin Durant. And it's bigger than Kevin Durant making a mistake leaving Steph Curry for Kyrie Irving.

In the history of right, Colin right, Colin wrong, this is my most right, officially. But Kevin Durant deserves credit. If you go to social media, it is amazing how many anonymous trolls are perfect. They've never made a mistake. Oh, they have such courage of their convictions. They're anonymous. Public people, politicians, basketball players, talk show hosts, CEOs, public people, entertainers. They put out bad albums.

I mean, Drake got crushed for the last thing he put out. Presidents have 35% approval ratings. CEOs, talk show hosts. You're going to make mistakes. You're going to get clobbered. But don't listen to the noise. If you made a mistake, own it. Kevin Durant made a mistake leaving Steph Curry and joining Brooklyn.

He made a mistake. Three years in, first round exits, the second round exit, it's time to move. It's time to go. He doesn't have an elite coach. He doesn't have an elite owner. They don't have an elite bench. They don't have elite size. You want to surround yourself with goofy Ben Simmons and undependable Kyrie Irving.

Kevin Durant has earned the right to dependable, committed teammates. Simmons and Kyrie, they do not deserve KD, even if eventually one of them ends up joining him. If you're a public figure and people know who you are, you're going to make mistakes. Don't be rigid. Move off them. Adapt, get mobile. Kevin Durant's got another six years of elite basketball.

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And with that, let's bring in Chris Mannix, who I usually don't talk about this stuff publicly, but is signing a new deal with a volume. you because we love him and we're never letting him go. Unlike K.D. and Brooklyn, he ain't walking out the door. So let's start with that one. So listen, I full disclosure. I never liked it. The analogy I always used, Chris, that if Patrick Mahomes left the Chiefs to go play with the Jets with a friend, we would tell him to get therapy. It would be obscene. You wouldn't leave Andy Reed, that family, that general manager, that structure. I did not like Katie leaving. But I love him. He's earned the right to play with committed teammates, and I don't trust Kyrie or Simmons. So I'd rather have him acknowledge a little bit of a whiff by me.

I want out. I would rather – I say this all the time. We all make mistakes. Don't double down on them. Just acknowledge it. I whiffed. So there's a lot of talk about Miami and Phoenix. Just structurally, which one makes more sense to you that could give, fortify the nets,

which one works or is there a gem out there that's not being discussed for KD? I don't think a deal with Miami works because for logistical reasons, you can't include Bam at a bio in a deal right now. And Miami wasn't going to throw at a bio in a deal anyway. He is the backbone of what that team does defensively. So now you're talking about Tyler Hero and draft picks. And I don't think that's enough to get the interest of Brooklyn in a trade. Phoenix is certainly interesting because Phoenix can put theoretically

Andre Aiton in a deal, McHale Bridges in a deal, they've got a whole bunch of draft picks. I don't know, Colin, if you read that Kevin Arnovich story on ESPN a couple of weeks ago, where James Jones, the general manager there, effectively said we don't care about the draft. Like we deal in free agency and trades, and that's how we build a winner. So the sons wouldn't blink, including a lot. of draft picks in a deal with the net. So I think that's probably the favorite right now, because you have to include the fact that Kevin Durant wants to go there. And even though he doesn't

have a no trade clause, he's going to have wield enormous power in this situation. The dark horse to me, Boston Celtics, because the Celtics could theoretically throw the best player in a deal in Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown was not an all-star this year, but that's largely because he had so many COVID injury issues in the first half of the season. He played like an all-star in the second half. He's 25 years old. He's been deep in the playoffs many times, so he's experienced in that vein. And he's got two years remaining on his contract. So the Celtics, they could put together a deal involving Jalen Brown and a bunch of draft picks. Maybe you throw another young player in there, Grant Williams would make some sense if you're Brooklyn

and bring Kevin Durant to Boston. Now, the follow-up question, why would Kevin Durant want to go to Boston? Well, there's a few reasons. One, go back to 2016. Kevin Garant take a meeting with in the Hamptons. He met with them back when Isaiah Thomas was there, Al Horford was there. He's got a good relationship with Horford, who's still going to be there next year. So there's already some interest from Kevin Durant in playing in Boston. The Celtics just whipped him in the first round of the playoffs. So he knows how good that team is. Ema Udoka, a coach in Brooklyn last year, has a relationship with Kevin Durant. There's just a lot of loose ties to Boston that Kevin Durant has. Finally, heavily involved in his own media company. That media company is based in New

York. I don't think it would bother Kevin one bit to still have close proximity to New York, to still be in that northeast corridor where he's trying to build something off the floor. So for those reasons, I think the Celtics kind of loom as a dark horse in this race. All right. Kyrie to the Lakers, I said a couple of weeks ago, I got some pushback on it, but I said, listen, Kyrie acknowledged I blew up the Cleveland situation. LeBron's a point in his career. where I don't know if he trusts the bus family up top or Rob Polinka. What they don't have is shooters. And the Lakers, David Fisdale told me, he goes statistically,

we had the second most open three-point shots in the league. We can't hit them, Westbrook and AD. He says, we need shooters. And when he said that, I remember driving home that day thinking, Kyrie's acknowledged he messed up. LeBron and Kyrie played together and played well together. Kyrie needs a restart. The New York media is crushing him. I don't think it bothers him to be in Los Angeles, an exploding economy. And so now stories come out. And do you buy them that Kyrie and the Lakers has real momentum? What do you make of those? I think it's probably the only place Kyrie can wind up at this point. Because when I talk to the league executives about landing spots for Kyrie, there's nobody out there. I mean, would Miami take him on?

as a buyout candidate, maybe, maybe the heat could plug and play him in there at the point guard position with Kyle Lowry starting to age and showing his age in the postseason some. Dallas, I think, has to be at least considered in all this. The Mavericks just lost Jalen Brunson. And if you're talking about a trade that might interest the next, Dallas could send Spencer Dinwiddie back to Brooklyn. They could throw Davos Bertons's crappy contract in that deal. and then sweeten the pot with a first round pick.

Look, the nets have made it clear. Not looking for a rebuilding package. It doesn't make any sense for them because none of their draft picks belong to them. So they're trying to win. So Spencer Dinwiddie, Davos Bertans, and a first round pick would probably be the best offer you can get in terms of maintaining relevance next season.

Now, the Lakers, what they can obviously do is put Russell Westbrook there and say, here are two first round picks. And that might be appealing to Brooklyn only because they could then take those first round picks and move them for somebody else. And get themselves a player back in return. But when I handicap the chances of an Irving deal straight up, a trade happening, it's the Lakers at like 80%, the Mavericks at like 19%, and then Mystery Team X that might go crazy at maybe 1%. But right now, L.A., it feels like the only real fit because the Lakers, they're desperate. They are doing the same thing this off season. They did last off season.

Lonnie Walker is the new Malikma. They're bringing in some young athletic guys and none of it is going to matter because you still have Westbrook on the roster with LeBron and AD and you can't make that work. Nothing else makes any sense. So I think they would welcome Irving if for no other reason than to get off the Westbrook contract. Yeah, I mean, listen, the Lakers are in a desperate situation. It's also important to note, Chris, when you live in Los Angeles. The Rams won a Super Bowl. The Dodgers draw 4 to 5 million. L.A.FC is good.

The clippers are now relevant. The chargers have Justin Herbert, Lincoln, Riley, and USC. It's a competitive market. It's a distracted market. You got to win games here. And this idea of draft picks. Well, hell, Chris, these draft picks are 19. A 2027 draft pick, if he hits, isn't delivering until 2030.

That's eight years. LA doesn't work in an eight-year clock, except in our traffic. Outside of that, we're not patient people. So I think sometimes desperation ends up making stuff work. It's the old beggars can't be choosers. Lakers are in a really tough spot right now. Okay, so the mystery moment of the internet was first take Brian Winhorse going on it. And you and I know Brian.

I've always liked Brian. It was very compelling television. He kind of slowly laid out the mystery. Danny Ains now, of course, runs the jazz of a trade they just made with Brooklyn. And he wouldn't give away the answer. And I'm trying to find it's like the Loch Ness monster. I'm getting bits and pieces and shadows. But, you know, show me the monster.

So he's talking about what's going on and sort of the enigmatic move by Utah without giving me the answer. So what was Brian Winhorse? For the love of God and all things fascinating basketball, what is he getting at? What he's getting at is that there are major signs that Utah is getting ready to tear that whole thing apart. And this is something that I've been writing

at the receipts for it since Danny Aange got that job. Because one thing I know about Danny Aange is that he is not satisfied with mediocrity. He is not satisfied with playoff appearances, second round exits. If he see a team, sees a team that has plateaued, he is going to shred that team. We know that because he did it. He did it in 2013 when the Celtics still relevant. I think there were second round team their last year with KG and Pierce. Still relevant. He traded everybody.

Traded Pearson KG first. Traded Rondo later. Strip that team down for draft picks and spare parts. If you watch the jazz in the postseason, no, they're not close. They got beat in the first round and they got beat soundly by Dallas. And they have nothing internal that's going to make them better. So when I had two thoughts when Royce O'Neill was traded to Brooklyn. One was that did Sean Marks?

make this deal without knowing about Kevin Durant's trade demand? Because it doesn't make any sense for Brooklyn either. Like with Durant wanting out and Kyrie going out, it makes no sense. So there's a part of me that wondered, well, we know Durant went to Joe Sy with his trade request. Was this information not filtered down to Sean Marks before he made this deal for Royce O'Neill? Why do you need Royce O'Neill, especially for a first round draft pick if you're trading Kevin Durant? So that was my first thought on the Brooklyn side. On the jazz side, this was just another signal that they are going into a rebuild. The first signal was Danny Ains being hired. The second signal was Will Hardy, a young assistant coach, an excellent coach being given a five-year contract. You do not give a first-time head coach

a five-year contract unless you want him to be losing proof, unless you're telling him that it's okay to lose 60 games in the first couple of years, you've got some job security here with us. Remember, Frank Vogel with the Lakers, when they were a contender, three-year contract right away, that's the contract you give if you're trying to build a contender. If they were going to keep that team together, Colin, they would have given Will a three-year contract. So if it didn't work out, you're not tied to him for year four and year five of that deal. And this Royce O'Neill trade, Royce O'Neill, who, by the way, extremely close with Donovan Mitchell. Eric Pascal, extremely close with Donovan Mitchell.

He was just non-tendered by the Jazz. All these signs, like these are becoming giant, unmissable signs that the Jazz are going to blow this thing up. So I am fully expecting at some point this offseason for the Jazz to trade Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell and strip this team down for spare parts. I think Mitchell fits in Miami. That's to me because as much as I love,

Bam is the sole of your defense. Butler is the great two-way athlete. But Jimmy's not always a definitive score. He's a 21 point of game guy. Donovan Mitch, and he also doesn't need the ball in his hands constantly. Because sometimes Donovan Mitchell has got a little Westbrook. But I think with Spolstra and Mitchell's also no longer a willing defender, at least not as much as he was early in his career. So you got the bucket covered defensively.

Butler's a good defensive player. I think Donovan can play better defense when pressured by Butler to do it and Spolstra. I think Mitchell works in Miami. Your thoughts? I think he works great in Miami. And I would make, once the dust settles on Kevin Durant, I would make Miami a one of the front runners to land him. Because that package of players that I was talking about for Durant that doesn't work for the Nets. that might work for Danny Aange in Utah.

You can get Tyler Hero, an excellent offensive player, certainly one with defensive liabilities, but you can get Tyler Hero presumably on a long-term contract. I was told that Tyler's deal is going to be worked out sometime in the next couple of days with the heat. You can get him on a long-term deal and build around him with all the draft picks Miami can give you. They've got a bunch of draft picks they can trade. Well, the heat are in win now mode. I agree with you.

Mitchell can be a better defender. When you talk to people in Utah, the one thing they said was Donovan Mitchell did not come into camp this year or last year in the best of shape. You're going to be in shape in Miami. You literally can't play for Miami unless you are in, you pass their fitness tests and are in the kind of shape

you need to be in to play for the Miami Heat. A better condition Donovan Mitchell will be a better defender. And if you're talking Kyle Lowry, Donovan Mitchell, and Jimmy Butler on the perimeter, that's pretty damn good. Mitchell can contribute to a point guard play as well because he's done some of that with Utah. I think Miami makes a lot of sense for Donovan Mitchell.

And I think you'll start hearing more about a Mitchell trade once the dust settles with Durant. All right, Chris Mannix, a bit of an emergency pod. We called him this morning. I had some Pack 12 Big Ten thoughts plus the NBA stuff. Kyrie to the Lakers, Kevin Durant, perhaps to Phoenix. It's fun. It's really, really fun. Great seeing you, bud.

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It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 is big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.

Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

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