The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Vikings Upset 49ers, Niners Defense, Cousins Value Rising, Michigan Scandal

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Vikings Upset 49ers, Niners Defense, Cousins Value Rising, Michigan Scandal Colin reacts to the Vikings upset win over the 49ers. He points out the missing piece from the 49ers defense that has led to them taking a step back this year and speculates on the trade value for Kirk Cousins after a marquee performance. He also weighs in on the unfolding scandal with Michigan football, what it says about the intensity of Big 10 football, and predicts how it will affect Jim Harbaugh. Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, so it was an upset weekend in the NFL as the Vikings who played several levels above themselves beat the 49ers 22 to 17 at home. Surprising for a lot of reasons, the Vikings weren't very good this season. The Niners were excellent, and that Kirk Cousins historically shrinks in primetime games. He has a bad record on Monday night football and against playoff teams in his career, and was about, after that first interception, was about as good as I think I've ever seen Kurt Cousins play. We also saw the Bill's big favorites get beat by the BB gun offense of the New England Patriots, a couple of small upsets, but four one-win teams went on to win. This weekend and it happens in the NFL. The margins are much closer. It's why the NFL is so much more

popular than college football. It's because you go into a college football weekend and, you know, if you get two upsets, it feels really special. In the NFL, you get weekends like this. When teams that are going nowhere beat teams with a really good shot to make the Super Bowl. You know, again, I said this today on FS1. I don't think less of the Detroit Lions getting clobbered by the Ravens. NFC teams are one in 16 against Lamar Jackson, right? Like if you've never played against Lamar Jackson live, it's a shock to the system. You get avalanche. The way to beat a Lamar Jackson, a team like that is, you know, you play them repeatedly

and can figure out the Rubik's cube a little on how to slow down Lamar Jackson. So, you know, I don't think anything less of the 49ers. I think the 49ers, when they have Trent Williams back and Debo Samuel, and I have a complete unit. They won't be playing. There's a good chance they will be playing a playoff game or two at home. But needless to say, this just happens in the NFL. I do think there's one thing to worry about after the 49ers.

So they've been kind of injury plagued, not ravaged, but injury plagued for several years. It's becoming an older team, Trent Williams and Kittle. Bosa's got some, you know, a lot of physicality and miles on those tires. There's a lot of, you know, the linebackers, they've been in the league for a while. And so as you get older, you have more injuries. You just hope collectively everybody's ready to go by the playoffs. But last year, the defensive coordinator was D'Amico Ryans. So he is a former player, very good.

He was a quick rising star as a coach. The Niners named him as like, you know, a defensive coach, linebacker coach, coordinator, head coach, Texans. I mean, it was four or five-year period. He flew through the organization of the 49ers. And I can remember his third year, people saying, oh, this guy's going to be a head coach. And you're like, he was just playing years ago. He didn't go to the college level. He didn't bounce around the league.

He coached for one team, the Niners, quality control on defense, linebacker, defensive coordinator gone. And he's been excellent so far with the Houston, Texas. Steve Wilkes, college head coach for a year losing record, NFL head coach for a year, disaster was fired, then went to Carolina interim. But Steve Wilkes bounced around college and pro coaching forever, a lot of jobs, a lot of cities, was not a rising star. And like we've all had, most of us have had, like one boss that's just exceptional.

I mean, I've been in this business 30 years. I've worked with some really good people. haven't had, you know, only a couple of like, wow, and they usually are in and out of the building quickly, right? It's rare for anybody in any business. You know, you see sometimes you have a coworker or a boss and you're like, wow, they're a visionary, that person, she's great, he's great. They just, and that was D'Amico Ryan's, flew through the Niners organization, first team he coached with, and he was gone, head coach. And so I think they're just not as good. I noted this several times on FS1.

They're not as good in the red zone defensively as they have been in previous years. And I think that's a coaching thing. You know, we always talk about offensive coordinators, but we rarely talk about big leaps with defensive coordinators. Dan Quinn for the Cowboys has certainly been excellent. But, I mean, if you look at the Vikings tonight, I mean, Kirk Cousins and that offense, 452 yards with an average O line, no Justin Jefferson. they moved off Delvin Cook, and they passed for almost 380 yards, 6.8 yards a play, 24 first downs,

8 for 13 on third down, you know, you lose Demi-O-Rions, they've lost their edge. They're not, the Niners are not as good situationally coaching on defense. Brock Purdy was, you know, now we've seen Brock Purdy last couple of weeks playing from behind. And, you know, it's not quite as special, as I've said many times. I think Brock Pretty's good. And I thought tonight you saw Troy Aikman pointed this out. Brock Pretty six to seven times throws the ball down the field, higher risk throws and throws it accurately a lot. Now he had a couple of picks, one a bad pick, could have been on the receiver. But I've said this about Jordan Love. He just can't throw the ball down the field. He's

completing 38% of his throws, 10 plus yards. Like Green Bay's got a problem at quarterback. Brock Purdy moves well enough, throws the ball aggressively down the field, and for the most part, very accurately. But there's a big difference in this league playing with a lead and a run game at home and trailing the entire game on the road. And Brian Flores is bringing heat with every snap, sometimes do his detriment like that Christian McCaffrey touchdown. But that's a different ball game playing from behind. You've got to throw. Everybody knows it. Brian Flores tends to be hyper-aggressive, just a different ballgame.

And so there's very few quarterbacks in my life that you can't distinguish a difference between their playing with a lead or trailing. I think Brady was one of them, Elway was one of them, Patrick Malmes is one of them, and I can't think of a fourth. So it's, you know, Brock Pretty looks very, very human playing from behind. But I think he's good. I think he throws the ball accurately down the field to a lot of different weapons. He's got some physical courage.

He'll take a hit. So I like Brock Purdy. I don't think he's great. And I think over the last couple of games, playing for behind on the road, it's not the same quarterback. Nobody is, really, except for the Yerellways

and you're Patrick Mahomes and your Brady's. So a really interesting game. That's as well as Kirk Cousins has played. Jordan Addison, the rookie from USC. What a night. Again, they didn't, Steve Wilkes, the defensive coordinator,

they didn't throw a lot of change-ups. I mean, Jordan Addison worked the Niners secondary from the beginning to the end. Didn't change much coverage as far as I could tell. But I think with Kurt Cousins, you know what you could look at if you're Minnesota? Not only do you feel good about the win, I don't think it translates to anything beyond this win, but you showcased him.

Think about that. You can get, if you move off Kirk Cousins, if you have a top 10, 12 pick, you're going to go get a quarterback. You can get, you can get a first round pick for Kurt Cousins? Certainly get a couple seconds. I mean, he looked young. He was accurate. Arm strength was good tonight. He's never been a big mover, but he can move a little.

I thought Kirk Cousins' standalone game against the 49ers, if I'm a general manager looking around this league, I'm like, he's somewhere between 10 and 13, 10 and 12. We have a good roster. Let's roll the dice. I mean, if you're going to give up three picks to get Trey Lance or move up to get college quarterbacks, you're not going to give up a second round pick for Kirk Cousins.

I think somebody is. I've said this about Justin Fields. He's got too much talent not to get a second chance. Sam Darnold got a second chance, right? He's just too much talent. So, I mean, you know, Kirk Cousins tonight, I mean, he didn't look his age. And this is a very respected defensive roster for the Niners. And Kirk Cousins tore it up.

He tore it up. He had that battery pick, boom, tore it up for the next three and a half hours. So really interesting weekend. I, you know, it's, I don't, on a macro level, I don't feel much differently. I think Detroit will do just fine. I know they got crushed by the Ravens, but they'll win 11 or 12 games in the NFC. They will, you know, host a playoff game, probably win and then go on the road and probably lose.

They'll go on the road and face of Philadelphia, Detroit will go on the road, face of San Francisco, go and they'll probably lose. But considering they gave up Matt Stafford, they got Jared Goff, Goff came in with a kind of shaky reputation, right, couldn't play in certain big games. I don't think less. I do think less of the Buffalo Bills because unlike the Lions, I don't like their offensive line. I don't like their momentum. I thought they were bad at the end of last year. So there are, you know, all losses are not the same. Buffalo losing to New England feels like. We have a negative trend here. Detroit losing to Baltimore, I don't take much from it.

That's a hard place to play. And I think right now Baltimore is the best team in the NFL. Last two weeks, I've thought Lamar Jackson has been the best player in the league, absolutely beyond exceptional. So I don't take a ton from this game. San Francisco is going to probably win their division. I would say it's highly likely, and they're going to host a playoff game. And Minnesota is going nowhere, and it's going to move off Kirk Cousins.

and now we'll probably get a little more off a showcase game. He plays in a lot of one o'clock games, these standalone games, every GM in the league is watching, doing their homework, got TV on Kirk Cousins. He probably got the Vikings another pick, or certainly a better pick.

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emotional happiness of a lot of these Big Ten schools that it's intense. And, you know, we've, we've seen this in the SEC for years. If this story would have come out in the SEC, you'd be like, well, that's the cost of doing business. And, you know, the Big Ten has got these esteemed academic powers, Penn State, Northwestern, Michigan. But Big Ten football is so financially strong. There is so much at stake. You know, you can laugh and say, why would Michigan have to, you know, do this against Rutgers in Maryland? It just shows you the intensity of the conference. And I think it's a lot of nothing burger. I think there'll probably be a slap on the wrist, you know, the equivalent of sending an intern to spy.

using a you know whatever the device is it doesn't rise to uh you know major suspension or forfeiting wins but it does make me think about the intensity and and i've it does remind me of pete carroll at usc when he hired a special teams coach and it was a violation and uh you know pete was always pushing the envelope competition wednesday move beyond that push the envelope and he got very very frustrated Pete did with the NCAA and eventually went to the NFL. And I remember a couple of years before he left, his name came up with the Miami Dolphins. And I thought, oh, why would Pete leave? He's done the NFL. He's, you know, he's been fired twice. Why would he, why would he go back to the NFL? But he got very frustrated with the limitations in the NCAA of college football. And so I think Jim Harbaugh,

relentlessly competitive. We know that like Pete. And, you know, he's having great success at Michigan. And I could see him getting frustrated. I think he's much more. important for college football than pro football. I hope he stays in college football. But it's got a Pete Carroll feel to it. It's got a Pete Carroll feel that Jim Harbaugh wants to take one more big swing at the NFL. And as great as Pete Carroll was at USC, I mean, it's hard to remember when he was there. It's like such a distant memory. And I mean, Harbaugh is still vibrant and young. He's got 15 more years. He's got incredible energy and juice. If Jim went to the NFL, after this year and coached for 15 years somewhere. Would it surprise anybody? Hope he stays at

Michigan, but I think he sort of looks at this and the slap on the wrist for the hamburger violation earlier, and I think he rolls his eyes. And I think he thinks, you got to be kidding me. You got schools out there buying them players years ago in the South. I mean, I think he looks around college football and thinks, this is it. This is really, you're going to hold this against me. I think it's a lot of the ways that Bill Belichick thought about spy gate and deflakeate I think Bill Belichick rolled his eyes at it. It's not golf. It's not a gentleman sport. You know, it's you're going to push the envelope. I mean, Pete Carroll and the NFL has been tagged a couple of times because of practices, practice violations. So I'm watching it.

I'm interested to see the result. I read the latest story or stories to Dan. it. Not that it was an eye roll, but it doesn't rise to heavy forfeiture or violations, but we'll see. All right. Instant reaction. See you tomorrow. The volume. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.

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