The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Cormier's Corner - Daniel Cormier relates to Francis Ngannou after Tyson Fury loss

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Following an INCREDIBLE night of boxing on Saturday night between Francis Ngannou and Tyson Fury for the heavyweight title, DC is back with the fellas for another edition of Cormier's Corner! Daniel Cormier compares the public outlook on Francis Ngannou vs. Tyson Fury to a similar situation he had after his first fight with Jon Jones! Plus, DC gives his take on why MMA might not be out of the picture for Ngannou in the future. And don't miss why DC says the sport of boxing lost on Saturday night, and the MMA and the UFC are the real winners. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bonus bets expire seven days after issuance. Eligibility and deposit restrictions do apply. Guys, welcome back to another episode of Cormier's Corner. You got me, you got my boy Terry. In the left-hand corner, you got him with the Marine flag. Craig, in the bottom left. left corner sitting in a different spot because every week Craig just has to have a different background in his house. How hard can it be to just put the computer in one spot with a microphone

and just leave it there, man? Like, how hard can it be? Now, okay. And we got Jamel on the bottom, right? Everybody's favorite hater, like your neighborhood friendly hater, Spider-Man, everything else. What's up, Bunk? There's no hate on. It's all facts, huh? Hey, look, I got my, I got my secret cup today. Hey, pull up, boy. Hey, what are you at? The secret stuff. We're going to turn this into like a little absolute.

We're going to end up like my daddy. My daddy used to somehow manage to have his eye open, clothes. At the same time, you can see a white in his eye, but no pupil. Where would his pupil go, man? Hey, that's the only man to say is Alphabet from Z to A.

We did it. From Z to A, dog. We did it. Never get a date. D-U-I-D-U-I. Backwards. Uncle P. Tell me that alphabet.

The boss starts with Z. Like, come, man. Go-more, fellas. Hey, boys, so it was time to get together. Oh,

I know y'all see that the KDiana flag in the background right there. You know how I do it. I'm the one that's reping. I'm Dustin Pornier. You're not the only one that reps our hometown. Like a real Lafayette,

G. You all live in Oklahoma. But you start staying close to Lafayette, Louisiana, which I'm closer to you, boy. What are you talking about? Hey, if I'm a, oh, if I'm going to keep it G-onk, I don't think that's a flag. That's a virtual flag. Hey, Jamel, he painted that shit. Hey, bro, if I'm going to keep it G-onk, I don't think it's a flat.

Stop, Jamel. You're not supposed to say that. Hey, I think is a flag. You're going to shoot, you're going to say you're closer to Lafayette than me. That shit puts you far the way from Lafayette. Like cartoon flag. That ball couldn't even get a flag, though. Man, y'all can get a real flag.

I got a real flag in here, too. Hey, listen, br, if a fan cut on, that shit just going to stay just like that. Yeah, it's going to move. It's going to wave. All right, fellas. Stop. Stop. Stop. Okay.

The reason I want to talk is because, as y'all know, we grew up in Lafayette and Mom House was a small house on Martha Street. Shotgun House on Martha Street. But on Saturdays, Uncle Murphy, Johnny, Edward, and everybody else always made sure to watch the ABC Wild War of the sports because boxing is what matters in the hood. It don't matter where you're from. Boxing matters, especially to young black men in urban America. Because we saw people that look like us overcome the same type of situations and become world champion. Last night, we had a boxing fight. We had a boxing fight that not many, including myself, thought that Francis and Gano really didn't belong in.

Love that he got the bag of fighting Tyson Fury, but didn't. not feel like it would be that competitive. Lo and behold, it's much more competitive than we expected. Many thought that Francis and Ghanu won. Terry, you boxed our whole childhood. You were the only one that boxed. You went with that white dude, Mr. Williford in Lafayette, a Lafayette legend.

And, Stutes and Shelton, and Mr. Stoots, you boxed our whole life, right? You told me today that you went back and watched and you scored the fight 96 94 for in Ghana. 96. 950 for Inganu. Lace, how? Because when I watched it, I thought Francis won three rounds. One being a 10, a 108 because of a knockdown.

How do you get that he won the fight, 96, 94? I actually said that, man. And I watched it. And it's like, like I talked to Jamel earlier. And he was saying the same, he was saying this, where Tyson Fury had, Tyson Fury and In Ganu had these moments where they weren't really doing much. But I just think like at the moments, even when, when Inganu, when he would try to clinch Inganu, Engano would do something that me and you talked about where he would grab the back of his head and he was letting some shots go. And I think a lot of those shots were the effective shots to me that stole around.

Whereas like, Fury wasn't trying to fight on the inside. He was just trying to put that weight on him, trying to hold him down, bro. So I just think that in those little spots, and Gano did enough to win those rounds for me. Yeah, but Tyson, Tyson Fury has made a career of that, right? When those guys are giving him problems, he uses his size and his weight to really fatigue them.

And once he fatigues him, they really have nothing for him. Right. Case in point, Deonté Wilder. Exactly. But there's a difference, right? Deontes got real skinny legs. Francis is a big dude. So I ask you, Craig, how in the world did Francis and Ghanu not only compete effectively against the greatest boxer of this generation in heavyweight, but feeling some people's mind that he won?

Where's the tape? Where's the tape on Francis and Gano? There is none. Exactly. So that, I think, made it a little bit harder for Tyson Fury to prepare for. So you're a Tyson Fury sympathizer. Not at all. I'm just saying, I'm just saying this is the reason why

I think Francis had so much success in this fight with the greatest heavyweight of our generation. He came in with loads and loads of video to watch and see pieces and places that he can pick things off.

And Tyson, I just think over, over, underestimated Francis. But to put it into action, but to put it into action is not watching film mode, it don't matter how much you have seen somebody do something. How can you go out there and do what Derek Chazora couldn't do a Dillian,

White couldn't do what Deonté Wilde couldn't, who is an Olympic bronze medalist, by the way, how does a guy like Francis who has no boxing experience do something that all these guys could not do? And when you're watching this, Craig, with the blind eye, right? Because I remember watching a fight with you and it was as clear as day. that Khabib had beat Al-Aiquita and you somehow scored the fight for Al-A-A-Quinta. So you're a high-for-judging fights. He's as bad as in the eye

I've ever seen. How do you... Everybody east of the Mississippi and across the Atlantic Ocean is going to be like, oh, my gosh, this guy's an idiot. Come on, bro. Was that one lady that always judged the fights all general?

Oh, that's Adelaideon. Paul Adelaide. Oh, Adelaide. A great bird, though. Bro. She nice, she nice, too. Adelaide Byrd is so nice, man. Every time I see her, I'm like, oh, my God.

Everybody just make fun of her. Craig, how can you, but how can you say that, though, Craig? How does he put into action with all these dudes couldn't? Well, the number one thing is Francis Ngano is game. I mean, we have to understand that not only is he, you know, a UFC heavyweight champion, he took a loss. And the second time he went back into the ring to fight's deep. Miochich, he was a totally different fighter.

He went out there and he didn't wait. He wasn't the same dude that fought Madison Square Garden. And it took an L. In Boston. He lost him in Boston. Yeah. You know, so the guy came out. He changed his repertoire and went after the,

went after Steve. And here he goes against the best. And he wants to win. And that's what he did. He came out there to win. And I don't think anybody expected Francis in Gondon, to go out there and try to get a W against the greatest. Absolutely.

And you know who didn't, Jamel, Tyson Fury? And it was very evident because Francis even said, when they walked to the center, Tyson Fury said to him, let me take you to school, classes in session, like, you're in over your head. But Jamel, is it as simple as Tyson Fury underestimated Francis and Ghanu?

And if so, how do you underestimate a dude that worked in the sand mines as a 10-year-old? And every time he tried to get into France, they would put him back into the desert and essentially say, there you go, man, try to make it in here, try to survive. They literally had no, they had no care for human life in regards to France when you're sticking them in the desert with all these people that can't get into your country. How does a guy like that get underestimated? Let's keep it honest on. None of that matter when you go and fight.

It's cool to build it up, but that don't. I think so it does. I think it does. I disagree too. I disagree. So you think, for instance, is the only guy that had that situation?

No, but Jamel, I'm saying, but you cannot, you can't question a guy's will and his spirit and determination when he's seeing that, is what I'm saying. Bro.

No. What I think is, Tyson Ferry has been fighting boxes his whole life, right? Boxes. All those boxes, they come up on the same angles, the same punches,

the same combinations. So you get a guy at MMA is totally different. The angles is different. The punches coming from the... Just like when Connor McGregor fought Floyd Mayweather, it took Floyd a little bit to figure out McGregor's weird angles, right? So I think it's the same for Tyson Fury. And I also think that I don't think he took him seriously

because he didn't... Tyson Fury didn't look good at all. That's my opinion. He didn't look. I don't know if Francis made him look bad or he just didn't prepare it, but I just think it's the weirdness of, Francis. Lead uppercuts. You've seen lead uppercuts sometimes for Francis, right? Like,

it's just a weird thing. The only thing I push back on that, man, is that theory has fought Deonté Wilder. Like, in boxing, that's the awkward as boxer that you could probably fight. So it's like, I think he was more awkward. Watching Francis and Gano, I think Wilde was way more awkward than what's much worse, like Wilder just throwing a looping punches? That's what's awkward about him? Yeah, he just doesn't, he's not a traditional boxer. Like, he's not like, yes, but, but he's been trained by traditional trainers, though, right? Yeah, he has, but Deante feet crossed. Deante feet crossed.

Deante off balance. Yeah, he doesn't follow up. I wouldn't use Deonté Wilder to teach somebody how to box. Like, it wouldn't be my film study. Like, it was just, like, when I look at Francis, Francis is like zero and zero with no boxing experience. And they have the same level of technique in a sense. It's just that power. is the saving grace, right?

Like, if Francis has that power, I think that's what kept Fury honest. Wilder has that power. That's what allows him to make the mistakes that he makes. But it's the same thing. So I think he has a little more experience with awkward boxes when we're thinking about that. But I do love your point.

I love your point. Don't get me wrong. It seems like to me, it seems like to meadow that you be in the traditional boxing fan. Because as a precursor, guys, when I was at Oklahoma State, Terry moved in with me for a little bit. And this dude moved in with a suitcase of boxing tapes.

And so we would watch all these old fights on my TV because Lord knows I did not have cable. So we would use the VCR and we would watch Seinfeld and old boxing tape. So Terry, as a traditional boxer, you seem to be sour on Tyson Fury and his performance. But you're not the only one that is sour on Tyson Fury's performance. Eddie Hurd said this. I'm absolutely lost for words.

I mean, Francis Ngarno has never boxed before. And fair play to him. I mean, I didn't think he was overly impressive. But Tyson Fury looked like he's never laced up a pair of gloves before. Got dropped in, was it the third round? Never threw a punch. And Garno never threw a punch after. I thought Ngarno won by two rounds.

The boxing world's gone mad. I mean, please, either. I mean, forget Fury Usyk. No one's interested. Just give us Fury against AJ. AJ will knock Tyson Fury out inside six rounds. Make the fight otherwise, we'll never get it. Or rematching gone.

Because the guy just deserves to have had one of the greatest wins. I mean, I don't know what I was watching. I don't know what Tyson Fury was doing. I'm still completely lost for words. So what Eddie Hearn is essentially sand lace is that Tyson Fury led boxing down, that Tyson Fury looked like he'd never fought. Is this a case of Eddie Hearn just trying to get Anthony? Joshua to fight? Or is this a bit of a universal thought from the boxing fan? Because all day long, Terry,

you have been very critical of Tyson Fury in regards to his performance. I'll go back with Jabel. That's why I tell him I'm not disagreeing with his tape. But I do think Fury was underprepared. I do think he wasn't ready for what Ingana was going to bring. He thought it was going to be a quick fight. He thought it's going to be a quick three-round knockout. It's over with Cashie Check. But Eddie Hearn, obviously, is caping for Joshua, bro. Like, there's no way, like, we think that Joshua deserves that fight against Fury for the linear heavyweight title. That's Ussick is the only option for that. The Uc might be too small.

I feel like Uc's size will be his detriment because Tyson is going to just lean on him the whole time. And that's the only downside, man. That's like, for me, like the Joshua and Fury fight would be amazing at Wembley Stadium or as Craig calls it, Wimbledon Stadium. That would be the perfect fight, man, as far as far as for going on the attention that boxing needs. But I don't think it happens, man. Like, I don't think Joshua versus Inganu is a more intriguing fight.

Just where you can put it there than a Fury versus Joshua. Joshua is out the picture at this point, man. So we bring in the group chat. No, he not, bro. go Joshua went to Resort for four days With nothing bro no life No light on nothing

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hey, Drake is worse than the cover curse, bro. What you mean? It's mad? Drake was worse than UFC. It don't matter.

Drake is worse than the cover curse, bro. If Drake show up in your corner or bet on you, all you got to do is bed against, whatever Drake bed, bet the other way you go on. Unless it's a woman fight, boy.

He never, he never lose when he's women. I don't think he, I mean. We're picking a man at noon there. One, 12. You're all so stupid. Stop, please stop. You all go get me canceled. Y'all going to get me canceled, man.

So, Jamel, this is my question, though, man. When I watched that fight and maybe I'm wrong, but I lend credit to Tyson Fury, for making the adjustments that he made to keep himself undefeated. Terry, I disagree with you. I thought Tyson Fury won 95, 94. I thought Francis won three rounds. I thought Francis won the 10-8 round.

I thought Francis won round 10. And I think, no, actually, I thought Francis won four rounds. I thought Francis won the third round way he got the knockdown. I thought Francis won seven and eight and ten. I thought Tyson won one, two, four, five. six, and nine. So I thought it was six rounds to four, and I think I scored it 95, 94 for Tyson Fury.

Because as Eddie Hearn said, there were rounds why neither one of them did anything. But Tyson Fury was the guy that was popping the jab that was even if he's hitting you on the glove, he's still hitting you, right? He's still landing something. Whereas at times it seems like Big Frank, who I love was taking a break.

and hats off to Francis. First time we saw him go 25 minutes, he looked like he couldn't even get up against Steve. He was so tired in Boston I had just finished. He fought 10 rounds with the best heavyweight boxing the world, and he looked pretty good even winning the last round. But I think that you have to give credit to him, Jamel, for making the adjustments in ring to allow for him to stand defeated.

But is that not what you expect from the guy as the lineal heavyweight champion in the world? I would expect that, but I don't think he made many adjustments. He did, Jamel. What did he do differently on? I really didn't see it on the outside. Pop shot at him. Slowed the pace down.

I think what you guys are missing is how he slowed the pace down to where it was, it was one of those boxing fights where you start around one, two, three, because everybody, even Canello starts slow in the first couple rounds. I felt like Tyson slowed it to that pace because he recognized in that pace. Francis could not go tit for tap with him, Jamel. So I get you saying he stayed on the outside. But Tysafir being the great that he is, I thought he would have taken advantage of some of those moments when Francis looked super tired, right?

Like Francis is out there, bro. When Francis do... Yeah. Versus is tired, bro. When he... I'm like, this dude is tired. And there was a point in the fight where I'm like, please don't fall for the okey dog, bro.

It looked like Tyson's... He said that. Walking into him for instance to throw punches to get him tired for that. I think it was eight, nine, for the last three rounds, I think. And I'm like, please don't fall for the hookado. You remember that one Floyd fight? I think he was fighting. Terry, who was he fighting?

Was it? Canello when he was just walking it. And his daddy told him, it was like, man, sometimes you've got to kind of walk up to him and let them throw punches to get tired. Maybe Victor Ortiz. Maybe. No, no, no, not Victor Ortiz. Because Victor Ortiz was the one where he had that little.

There's some crazy shit to Vick. So that's what I start feeling like. I'm like, man, I think Tyson Ferry is trying to hit him with the Oki, though. Like playing possum on him. Playing possum. Like where you're the rope adobe, like Mama and Ali type shit. Just lean on them a little bit. Just let them throw punches.

And I thought Francis was getting tired. But I thought they had some rounds where Francis could have still because Tyson Ferry didn't do that much. Right. He just had a couple of explosions, bro. And that's what I say. Like I feel like he did more damage, bro. Like when he was landing his shots, he had the more damaging shots. So that's why like a lot of these little middle rounds, I gave it to Francis, bro.

Yeah, but of course, though. But look at the pictures. But it doesn't matter, right? Because I think this is what we're missing. We as fans now still tend to judge fights as a whole. When Craig, in reality, it's round by round. It's round by round. And Craig, it feels like universally people say stuff.

People have said Francis won the fight. Tyson won the box match. You can completely agree with that. He was the better boxer. I mean, even in a tightly contested fight, he still was the better boxer. How just scored, Craig? After the fight, I thought they had it right.

Not until 7.30 this morning. I rewatched the fight. and I took two rounds back from Tyson Fury and gave them to-ing-God. You're all doing that. You're all doing that. Y'all be a short-sight, man. I've got to re-watch it.

Okay, I'm going to tell you. This is the reason why. While I was watching in the fight, I was watching it hyped for Francis, but I was watching it with anticipation for Tyson Fury to be a little bit more spectacular than he was. Even though he wasn't, I still felt Ingana wasn't spectacular enough to take it.

So it's almost kind of like that old mantra of you got to beat the, you got to beat the champion. That is the most bullshit thing in the world. That's one of the worst things in all the sports history. You got to beat the champ. Exactly. That's what that fight was. And that was my feeling leaving that fight. Like, man, like Francis did a great job, but he just didn't win.

When I watched it this morning, bro, I'm like, no. Like, he didn't have to beat the champion to beat the champion. But you know, no, Francis. Mike Francis. y'all know Francis, y'all like Francis, so y'all trying to score to fight for Francis. No, bro. I know France.

I'm trying to tell you. What? I didn't. The first time I watched the fight live, I was like, man, I was like, Francis did a great job. I was happy for him. He lost, but I was happy for him.

When I watched it for the second time, I watched it with no emotion. I was like, I'm just watching this fight. Yeah, I want to do that. You can't even do that, but you can't eliminate the fact that you, you can't eliminate the fact that you know one guy and you don't know the other

so you can say I'm going to watch it with as unbiased eyes as I can. It doesn't work like that. I was wanting to win. But nobody, but still nobody is that, nobody is that fucking, nobody has that much discipline to say, bro, I lost to John Jones in the first fight

and I'm, you three months, I think you three months might have been like, man, might have been three to you. No, it was not three to two. But because of who I am, I can't do that. I was walking out of the arena.

I thought you got robbed. I'm trying to fight. That's what I'm saying. That's not true. Like I'm going to. But that's the thing, though. That's what y'all are doing in regards to France. No.

That was in the moment, though. That was in the arena. But when you watch it back, obviously you see, okay. Yeah, you can see. You want the fight. But in there, shh. I was like, man, they got robbed. The craziest thing in the world.

And that's why you guys don't have the ability to watch Francis fight Tyson Fury and feel and watch the fight with unbiased eyes because we spent time with Francis in Boston. We have seen it spend time with Francis in places like Vegas. And because of that, you cannot watch it with unbiased eyes. I'm sorry, it's the truth. I wasn't even going to watch the fight.

That's how I was excited I was for this thing. So I know I could watch it with unbiased eyes. Bro. It's like, I thought Francis was going to get finished in three. like that was my that's why I didn't even watch it but it's Francis just one but it's like saying it's the right to say it's like Francis is the king of the world now but is he one bad performance from being like oh we knew this is what it was and Anthony Joshua fighter diante wild the fight where it doesn't go that way or is he really this high level box you guys

do you guys for instance and gano is now this high level boxer that can't lose like it don't matter which one of those guys he's fight he would not lose even if he lose the fight he don't lose bro why he's not supposed to be there he's not supposed to be fighting those guys a zero and zero a zero guy fighting all the champs yeah that's crazy if i'm francis if i'm frances it's no more mma for me dog really so you're not going back to mixed martial arts for what to go make so much money less bro who would have thought francis could go who would have thought francis could go third minutes, Doug. They said Francis might have made between $10 and $20 million.

Why, I'll go back to him in a me. PFL to make what? $2 million? $4 million. Probably five. I would go feed on them PFL. We'll take them last two champions. But the PFL guys are, but Jamel, these PFO guys are not necessarily top 15 guys in

the world. He ain't fighting Steve baby olders and John Jones. Go make five mil. Okay. Let me ask you. What was the hardest day of training? The hardest day? Grappling.

That Wednesday, right? Wrestling or sparring? Wrestling? Wrestling. You ain't got to do that no more, bro. You could just stand up and go make triple what you're about to make. Why? Or you can be like Tyson Fury and say you go do a 12-week camp and look like shit when you fight.

Yo, y'all, y'all, oh, Tyson Fury bad, bro. So here's my big. It's actually, though. Can I tell you a crossover fight? I don't want to see the... No. Hey, I want to see DC. No, you remember who we saw.

We saw him at WrestleMania. He lost weight, right? He lost a lot of weight on it. I think DC versus Butterbean, Doug. Ah, that boy, you're so disrespectful. Butterbee was not a guy. Butterbee is in a hard, man. Yeah, I'm not trying to see my Doug D.C. go fly across the ring, bro.

I can't look. Butter be lost a lot of weight, though. I don't think nobody can. I don't think I can beat nobody. That one's part of the day. My body's still hurting. Why is the thing like a hot bath? I put CBD all over my legs and my body is bad.

Hey. Covered in CBD. Hey, I bet for $10 million your back feel better. Oh, on. Time help. You got to show a merrim and say, put him in. Hey, put me in for that. I'm going to fight.

Hey, wait, stop, though. Let me ask you guys this. Let me ask you guys this. I felt like on Saturday, MMA has a whole one in boxing loss. Oh, yeah. Is this thought real? Or am I just kind of looking at this through

MMA covered glasses, warning the MMA fighter, because my thought is, and I put a video out, which, by the way, guys, 360,000 views in 24 hours. I appreciate and love each and every one of you for the support. I don't believe for a second that any MMA heavyweight

should be able to compete with the lineal heavyweight champion in the world. But I also know for a fact that no boxer could do to an UFC, I don't even think you ought to do a UFC champion. Because we can agree, right? Generally, the UFC champion is considered the lineal champion, right? Obviously, there can be some chinks in the chain. Like right now, Jones would not be considered lineal, he did not beat Francis who did not beat this dude.

I get it. But generally, the UFC champion in MMA is the baddest fighter in the world in that weight class. Is there a boxer in the world that could do what Francis did last night? And if not, is that an indicator of boxing as a sport is just not on the level of mixed martial arts in terms of real life competitive? If it's not Terry, I know you're kind of rolling your eyes because you feel like I'm taking a shot at you, your lifelong love. But is it the truth? He fought the lineal heavyweight jam for the world.

When are we talking about fighting? Like it's just straight up. Like they said, a street fight, right? Like if Ngano knocked Fury down in the third, if that was MMA, he follows him to the ground, he pounds him out. That's, it's over, right? Like, that's easy money for him. Tyson said he was not hurt.

Fury said he was not hurt at all. Just the fact that he went to the ground changes the dynamic. of the whole fight, right? And I'm the same, like, I look at James Tony, man. Like, James Tony's a legend in box. That was bad. And then he fought Randy Coutor, man. He was in his 40s.

That was bad, mid to late 40s. That was easy money, right? And it was like, Randy Corto doesn't have amazing striking. He's a record Roman wrestler. Like, so, like, he took out a legend in box, right? Like, so I just don't see, like, as much as I love the skill set, that's my favorite skill set. That's my favorite thing to watch still. but yeah if you're a heavyweight champion in mMA is the baddest man in the planet man i got

i got to i got to sit there and admit that you know do you agree is there a boxer that could do it francis did could france could thyselfthew could mhm could fight mhm and fight john jones in a free fight in a skill set that they can use everything no i don't think any of the boxes could come because they've never they've never practiced wrestling they've never had a takedown Maybe Bud, because I know his kids wrestle. Bud Russell. And he's fighting around wrestling. So maybe he could defend takedowns and all that.

But also, like I said, the angles is so different, though, bro. I saw Bud doing, I saw Bud doing jujitsu. Bro. Maybe Bud is the only one. Maybe Bud is the only one that could maybe have some type of success. But any of those other guys, bro, is no way. Like a guy in a UFC that don't even have a top wrestling background. It's going to be able to take those guys.

Don. Well, Craig, Randy Couture was a Greco-Roman wrestler, but he shot a low single on James Tony, and I think maybe that was probably the most telling factor in how a boxer would compete against a mixed martial artist inside of a cage.

So, I mean, you think about this, your chest is up when you're boxing. When you're fighting, you're trying to bring everything in. To get your shots off, to get your kicks off, to get your jabs off, you're open to everything. Your stance is a little lower. If you're six, five, you're six three when you're in a cage.

You know, these boxers, they're upright. Their movement is guided through their hips, not their chest, like you would be in an MMA. Yeah. Yeah, it's just not happening. Yeah. Bro, you know, for me, it's like, I believe for the record, no one could do it Francis did.

It's unprecedented. It will never happen again. And there were a lot of people that questioned whether, you know, all week, bro, he carried a bag that said fumbled the bag. And guess who said some dumb shit like he fumbled the bag? Me. Of all people, I'm the one that was saying he fumbled the bag. Because, dude, I was scared for him.

I didn't know what was happening. I was like, go back, bro. Like, I know you can get 7 mil in the UFC as the heavyweight champ. Go back. But he obviously made the best decision for him. And now he made a boatload of money. And there are a lot of fights out there for him. But now, guys, Sean O'Malley is arguing with

Devin Haney about a crossover fight. You got Jake Paul saying he's going to go to MMA and fight Nate Diaz now. Does any of this interest you guys or no? No. It doesn't. No. I don't like to see it, bro. I just don't want it. Yeah, I don't want it.

What are we doing, though? What are we doing? Yeah, like this is stupid. Nah. Like, we got to stop at some point. Just we can't do everyone. But every time you catch a belt is like, all right, let me call out boxing. Yeah.

Oh, man. defend your belt man go get two of them you know what i'm saying like to see it bro i don't like i don't like the i don't like the bs fight man i'm not harry you actually had boycotted the fight yesterday bro i wasn't gonna like until you call me bro like i was gonna i was gonna sit there i was watching like murder mysteries bro like when you call me i'm like you're like oh you got a while i got i got phil briskly watching this fight because i really just thought that he was a i don't i'm not interested in this stuff bro you know what i told him jemel i say you better to watch it right now, you're going to have FOMO.

He's like, what's FOMO? I said, Fear of missing out. I said, oh my God, Francis is walking right now. It looks so cool. He got all these dudes. I was like, I got to watch this shit, right? I wouldn't go and watch it either. Then you called me too, and he was like, the fight by the start. So I hurry up and wait to look, but I'm like, I didn't want to watch me, bro.

Like, I didn't think, I didn't think Francis was going to get knocked out because of like, um, fear he's power. I just thought he was going to get tired and kind of be, like get finished that way, but I just wouldn't, I don't like it, bro. You know why I'm shook on it all? Why, 25 years ago, brus, celebrity boxing when the fridge fought Manu bowl, bro. Damn. Bro, like, and the ref kept on saying, all right, fellas, like he charged me under his bread.

That might have been Mills Lee, man. That might have been great Bill's lead. Bro, he said, all right, fellas, y'all ain't going to get paid if y'all don't start throwing some punches. And you, my little bowl, 7-11, bro. And the fridge is a fridge, my brother. And they just stand out there, look. Like, stands like this. And that's all this is.

It's celebrity boxing, bro. Bro. So when that happened, celebrity boxing. So when all these crossover fights are starting to kick off, I just immediately think of celebrity boxing. But, I mean, they have a different angle about it now, though, because it's actual combat sports guys getting in there and they're fighting. So.

You know what? You know, you know, lost the most last night. I thought that boxing loss. It did. I thought that Tyson Fury lost a little bit. I thought Yusick lost a lot because now the interest in that fight is going to be. People will now start to want to see Francis fight again, opposed to fighting him against Yusk,

which I don't know if it happens in December because I think Tyson might need a little bit of time to reevaluate what he's doing. But you don't think he should fight Lusick in December. Not in December. I don't think he's prepared. He's not ready. He showed that. I'm not taking nothing away from Francis, but I don't think Fury is ready to go in December.

December 23rd. He lied. But that's different body styles, T. That's different punching powers too. I think he's too small. I think Francis was bigger than he thought that gave him problem. And Francis, strong.

Every time he got to the clinch, I think Francis's MMA background, the ability to control the clinch really gave him problems because he would just throw him off him. He really would just throw him off of him because he understands how to maneuver to weight.

But Usik being small, though, he's a slick Southpaw, man. He can fight on, Jerry. He showed that against Anthony Joshua. You can't just walk him down and overpowering, man. The dude is a saltpaw. He got power. He got angles. He's kind of like a bigger version of Lomo, right?

Like, where he can give them angles. He can catch you. Like, he's going to make you look bad if you're not ready. And if he's not ready, he's going to get beat up, bro. Tyson hasn't retired before. He's retired before. And like I said yesterday, he might want to consider looking at what his future looks like for him.

Before we go, guys, I appreciate it. I appreciate your thoughts on this because I know boxing is something we have watched for a real long time. But for me, I love watching Francis. The king that he is, take a chance on himself and say, you know what, I can do this. Went out there and did it and did it at a super high level. And now, I mean, he is going to ride as high as anyone has written

in a really long time. There's one thing to leave the UFC. It's another thing to leave the UFC is the heavyweight champion in the world. That's what Francis Ngano did. And last night he showed that he belongs. It just was our Saturday is what Francis and Gano did.

And Saturday night, when Francis showed is that he belongs and that were the best heavyweight in the world. I would advise, though, be very smart with what the future looks like because I believe that you're one performance away from being just another MMA guy

that stepped into a realm that you were not familiar with. So for all the goodwill you made in the fight against Tyson Fury last weekend, you cannot fumble it like you like, the bag, by going in there with someone that could prove

that by going in there with someone that could prove to be too dangerous, too skilled, and to experience for you inside of a boxing ring. There is no more surprises. And I don't know if Francis Ngano needs to surprise anyone. Guys, that was Cormier's Corner. I'm D.C., that's Terry, Craig, and Jamel.

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