The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Coronavirus, NBA season, NFL draft, Dak Prescott

Episode Date: March 27, 2020

Colin discusses the NBA season going on without fans, why it must return soon, why the NFL draft not being pushed back is the right call, Dak Prescott possibly becoming the highest paid player in the league, and the effect the Coronavirus is having on all of us. Guests include Ryen Russillo, Mark Cuban, Joe Buck, Joe Looney, and Jason McIntyre. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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also all over Twitter and our social media platforms. One hour from now, my wife told me all week, I'll listen to your show only when Mark Cuban comes on. He'll be on in one hour from now. A philanthropist, business icon, outspoken, owner of the Dallas Mavericks, and a smart guy, billionaire Mark Cuban. Joining us, and Joy Taylor is joining me. How are you this morning, Joy?

I'm great. How are you doing, Con? I am doing well. I want to start with this. People now are talking and making claims that, you know, we're not going to have the NFL season or college football season. And I don't know. I've got my hunches on things. I do think the economy is going to start back up in May. I don't know what we do. I think Vegas is going to kick things off in April.

Not sure how it ends up. Maybe they'll be the national guinea pig on that. But I think casinos are going to open up, whether or not anybody's in them. I think they're going to open up first, the first big city to reopen. And that'll be a few weeks from now. But to LeBron James yesterday talking about the NBA season, which I don't know if it's going to happen. I'm crossing my fingers.

I think they have to be very, very open-minded on playing with no fans. And LeBron James says, I can't get my arms around that idea. Having a game without fans is just what is our, what is the worst sport without fans? There's no excitement, there's no crying, there's no joy. There's no back and forth. There's no rhyme or reason that you want to go on a road and just dethrone the home team because of their fans and vice versa. Like, that's what also brings up the competitive side of the players

to know that you're going on the road in a hostile environment. And yes, you're playing against that opponent in front of you, but you really want to kick the fans to. Remember, we're not asking NBA players to play without football. fans forever or an entire season. This is temporary. Right now I'm doing a television show by myself in a studio, a radio studio. I've eaten at Panera Bread for Breakfast, nine straight mornings. I've run out of clothes. If you turn on FS1 right now, it looks like I'm an advertisement for farmers.com. I've got no shirts left. I could by next Tuesday, I could be doing this. I could be, I'd be,

in my underwear. It's temporary. My wife is in Utah with some kids. I'm at home. I am sitting in a studio. This is hopefully not what it's like next year at this time. It is simply temporary. This is the world we all live in. You have to ask yourself, do you want an NBA season? Then you better get ready to play without fans. You can practice. Adam Silver can absolutely test every single player, staff, member official and executive for coronavirus. And if everybody tests negative, you can work out, you can practice. And these are also the youngest, best conditioned athletes in the world, along with international soccer players. So most would be asymptomatic. And frankly, they have very, very, very low risk. For some reason, I don't know why this virus is far more

punitive to people in poor health older than young health. And just age-wise, it's tougher on people over 50 than under 50. That's where the death rate spikes. But if you want an NBA season, do you really believe we're what, six, seven weeks out from 20,000 people jammed up next to each other in NBA arenas? The NBA players are going to have to come to terms with this. Either you're willing to play with no fans or there's no season, or, and I've thought about this, modify the fans where you let one quarter of the arena in and you have to be two or three seats apart. Sounds weird.

Guess what? Everything now is weird. You've got to be willing to roll with this stuff. Charles Barkley, though, said it yesterday as well. The NBA style points matter. I mean, let's be honest. If there's a great one-on-one game at the YMCA, people will. walk by and they stop and they want to watch it. It's different. Basketball, as Barclay said,

is truly different. I think it's impossible to play without fans. One of the reasons the game is great. You want to showcase your talent. The crowd has a huge effect upon the game. I know there was times I was tired and the crowd's going nuts and I'm just like, I get energy from anywhere. There's nothing better than sticking it to a fan who's sitting right behind the bench. who's harassing you the whole game. But when somebody's giving you a hard time, that motivates you. I agree. But you're going to have to be self-motivated this point forward,

perhaps for the entire playoff season. We're not going to have 20,000 fans in five weeks in arena. It's not going to work. It's not going to happen. The CDC is currently saying no more. than 10 people in any group. In my town, we can't even now walk on a wood chip trail. First, it was no walking more than four people.

Then it was two people. Then it's only family members. Yesterday, I couldn't get on it. We are not five and six weeks away from 20,000 people, elbow to elbow in an NBA arena. Let me move to this. The NFL draft is going forward. forward as it should.

Roger Goodell, the commissioner, sent a memo out warning against public comments from people in the NFL. The NFL draft, the NFL and the NBA have really different sensibilities. The NBA, we watch the highlights more than the games. It's got a younger fan base. Younger people are on Twitter. It's very beholden to, it's a little more socially conscious. It perceives itself as that.

A little more political. as a league. And it's also hyper popular on Twitter. The NFL's got an older fan base. Only 22% of Americans are even on Twitter. I would say it's much more NBA fans and soccer fans than baseball and NFL guy. The NFL simply doesn't care about Twitter as much. They're not beholden to it. I'll give you an example. In my life, I make money from a network, cable, radio, podcasting. I don't care about Instagram. I don't make any money off it.

So that's what I'm beholden to. I'm beholding to Fox Sports. Fox Sports Radio. FS1. I heart. My podcast. That's where I make the money. The NFL has figured something out about Twitter.

Twitter turns its back on everybody. You know who never turns its back on the NFL? Fox, CBS, NBC. That's who they're loyal to. And those people want to draft. NBA, they start too soon. They lost $500 million on a tweet from an NBA GM. They got all freaked out.

NFL doesn't care as much. If the NFL cared about Twitter, Colin Kaepernick would be in the league. They don't because Twitter doesn't pay them anything. The NFL takes care of its TV networks, and the TV networks never turn their back on the NFL. Twitter turns its back on everybody, and that's very closely aligned with the NBA. So what I worry about with the NBA is, oh boy, if you start too soon, it spikes corona in arenas,

oh my Lord, people go crazy on social media. I think the NBA could be punitively damaged their reputation by that. NFL is going to hold a draft. Ask yourself this. Does everybody here want to watch another show about a guy who collects tigers? Or do you want to see Tua get drafted by the Miami Dolphins? What do you want to watch? Because that's what the NFL cares about.

The NFL got lucky with this. The combine had already taken place. We had an awesome Super Bowl. But free agency, the NFL schedule is coming out, by the way, in two weeks, April 17th. I'll spend four days on that. And the NFL draft is mostly phone calls and paperwork. And they are not beholden to social media. They don't give a rip if they did Kaepernick's in this league.

and Cam's getting a job tomorrow with a team. They don't care. They care about their TV partners. That's who pay them. That's who pays them. And they want a draft. And they're going to get a draft. And I think the draft is absolutely what we need.

Any sports that we can do with social distancing are very valuable. Free agency period. It got a lot of pushback. This is wrong NFL. You are forgetting. And they did it. And it was unbelievable. How much fun was free agency?

It was a blast. The Brady Buccaneer thing was unbelievable. And we were all okay. If you can do sports without creating a virus, you can't worry about optics. The NFL doesn't. It's one of the things I really like about him. I'm going to ask Mark Cuban about that in one hour. This is a league NBA, which has been very, very political and socially conscious

and sometimes Twitter connected. And if they push back on a seat, and then they get in there too early and you have a spike in coronavirus in cities having NBA games, how does that play for the league? Are you concerned about the backlash for that? All leagues have different sensibilities. NFL and the NBA are two totally separate businesses. The NFL is domestic.

It worries about its domestic TV partners. The NBA is much more global and international. All right. Coming up, well, it looks like it's going to happen. the contract discussion that's gone on forever appears to be getting close to being done. Talking Cowboys and Dackneck. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app.

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with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Weather can be uncomfortable on the roads. We're getting into a sloppy spring, Michelin endurance, X-T, silico, wiper blades are real world. Proven, get them at Walmart last two times longer. Ed Werder, trust this guy. Noam well, set a source within the Cowboys told him, Dak and the Cowboys are getting closer to the negotiation point where they're going to resolve the seemingly never-ending contract with Dak Prescott,

and it says Prescott will emerge as the highest-paid NFL player. It should be noted. His great center, the Cowboys led the NFL in yards per rush with him, 22nd. Without him is no longer a cowboy and retired. Left tackle Tyron Smith no longer plays 16 games. He's a 13, 12, 13 a game player in the NFL. Those are their two best offensive linemen. Zach Martin's also older but still elite.

My take on this is the Cowboys now have, and I'll read these off of paper, here, seven positions where they're top three in player compensation. If this deal comes through, quarterback, running back, left tackle, right guard, defensive end, wide receiver linebacker. It was eight with Travis Frederick. He just retired. What is the problem with that? In the NFL, you do not have to be great at everything.

That's not the game. What you have to be, you have to avoid being terrible or bad. at anything. This is the Patriots genius. They're rarely dominant in any one thing. They're never terrible at everything or anything. Why is that matter? Because football, more than baseball and basketball, is about coaching. Now, I still think quarterbacks are more valuable than a coach, but the NBA, where LeBron goes, they win. Pat Riley's important, but he wasn't winning titles the year before LeBron got there, right? In the NBA, Phil Jackson, I think the last series he ever coached in the playoffs.

I could be wrong. I think he got swept by the Dallas Mavericks. He didn't have enough players. So Red Arbach's not doing anything without Bill Russell. Baseball. It's about your staff. I mean, nothing. It's your payroll.

The Yankees have 27, 28 world championships. They've always had more stars. They have more history. They have more bankroll. There's no salary cap. There's a reason the Dodgers and the Yankees. You get the point. But in football, salary cap,

It's a hard cap, not a lot of loopholes. You need a coach and a quarterback. Those two are the only two that you can point to and say they win. Coaching is so important in football and I think mostly so good, but if you have a hole, by the time you get to week 12, 13, 14, like Belichick always says, this season's about post- Thanksgiving. That's when you figure out who can coach. That New England's been average, many years, slightly above average, pre-thanksgiving.

They're great, usually until last. year post Thanksgiving because they were four and five their last nine games. They're old now in unathletic and, you know, there's limitations. Brady yelling, screaming at his players that can't get open. So I'll give you an example. The Saints, the Saints have a real hole. They can't throw the ball downfield. They couldn't do it with Teddy.

They don't do it with Drew Breeze. They're still really good. By the time the playoff comes around, the last three years they've been eliminated by the Vikings twice and the Rams. Why? Because they average 350 yards of offense. And they scored about 22 and a half points a game. In the regular season, they can drop 29, 32, 41. Their offense, not their defense, was the liability against the Rams and the Vikings twice.

They just couldn't get enough big plays. That's their hole. The Dallas Cowboys are in a situation right now, losing Jeff Heath at safety and Byron Jones at corner. Their secondary wasn't great with Byron Jones. So now they're going to have to address it in the draft because they didn't upgrade it massively in free agency. And if they whiff or they have, I mean, are you going to ask a rookie corner to walk into the NFC and dominate? The Cowboys are a left tackle injury, Tyron Smith, or a secondary injury away from being dreadful on the O line and regrettable in the secondary. there. You can't do that in the NFL. You don't have to be great at everything. You can't be

terrible at anything. Coaches will attack it relentlessly. So if that's the highest paid player, you have seven of the highest paid players at their position in the NFL. We all know it's a salary cap and you're going to be thin, but go-ass sir Rams. Rams lost Gurley and a right guard, not the same football team. Even with McVeigh, even with all those receivers. Rams may have the second or third best receiving court. May have the best in the entire NFL. Couldn't move the ball. Joy Taylor with the news. No.

No. No. No. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So Tom Brady is facing a new challenge as he starts the next chapter of his career in Tampa. Tom Kern asked Brady if those who think he will fail with the Bucks were motivating him to succeed. But he downplayed the effect that the haters have on him. He said, I'm always motivated to do the best I can do for many reasons. The main motivation is that the love of the sports,

and that I want to continue doing something I love to do. It's not any more difficult than that. Well, that's a very nice response. But as we know, Tom Brady kind of has an eternal chip on his shoulder for many, many reasons. I will say this. You know, sometimes haters kind of feel like they are more important to your career or your success than they really are. I think anybody who does something at the highest level, of course does it because they love it. Like, you didn't get into this business because somebody told you you couldn't get into this business.

You were born to be in this business. You were doing play by play of your own shots in the backyard when you were like seven. You know, I didn't get in this business because someone told me I couldn't do it. But every once in a while somebody says something to you or you don't get a job or something happens. And you're like, you know, I might get up a little extra early from now on. You know, make sure that they know that they were wrong. And whether you don't ever want to say that. But it's, I do think that he is continuing to play.

because he wants to play. He said he wants to play till 45. He's still capable of doing that physically. And I think we're all excited to see what he does. But some interesting news from Fox Bet. The Bucks NFC South odds moved up from, well, I'm sorry, they were plus 550 to plus 180 after the Brady move.

So they're currently second behind the Saints, which makes sense. Yeah. And they're over under moved from seven and a half to nine after Brady signed. Isn't that interesting? So, you know, we said last year there were seven and seven, and it was James' mistakes, why they didn't go 8 and 8 and 9 and 7. So I would take the over on 9 wins,

and I'd take the under on 8 and a half for New England. I feel absolutely strong about both those picks. I think Tampa's a, again, I think the schedule could be tough. If they get the wrong teams in September, they need a little, they need a break, a scheduling break in September because we're not going to have a camp and we could have a shortened, you know, exhibition season. So I do think

Tampa could be choppy in September, but they're going to figure it out pretty quickly because they just have too many good players on offense. Right. And of all the teams that are going to be at a disadvantage, which I mean, everyone is going to be at a slight disadvantage because you're not going to have the off-season workouts. But of all

the teams coming in with a new quarterback, I'm going to give Brady the nod in that spot, because you can only imagine that Brady has all the possible information that you can have already, and he's sitting down watching tape. So Cam Newton seems to be sending another pretty clear message about his release from the Panthers. He posted some more photos and videos on Instagram showing his workouts.

And in one of them, Cam says, they gave up on me. Chargers quarterback Tyra Taylor also posted pictures working out with Cam Newton to his Instagram story yesterday. So I do think Cam is clearly putting some imagery and messages out there that, you know, he has a chip on his shoulder and he's working very hard. and I think he's kind of trying to change the narrative of that he's not focused or he's not dedicated to football. And I mean, to be honest, I never felt like Cam Newton wasn't dedicated to football. I think that you can have interest in more than one thing in life.

We don't criticize guys for being into fishing. We don't criticize guys for, you know, whatever their hobbies are, unless it's something that we either can't relate to or is, in Cam's case, kind of eccentric. Like, if you don't want to like Cam, there's lots of things that you can pick at when it comes to Cam Newton. Overall, we know he's a good guy. I mean, he was a Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee this year. Like, he does a lot for his community. He's always playing her. But whatever happened in Carolina happens, and he is clearly upset with them.

According to Fox Bet, the odds for his next team are the Jags at plus 250, Chargers plus 275, Redskins plus 600, Redskins plus 700. Patriots plus 900. I don't know where he ends up, though. Yeah, well, it should be noted. Every year, I don't have a data point in front of me, but every year, about seven to eight starting quarterbacks get hurt. Cam's going to play this year.

Right. Yes. It's the idea, I mean, Cam's just simply too talented not to play. The question becomes, you probably wouldn't bring him in as a backup, a celebrity back. He's just like, if Baker fails in Cleveland, he's too big to be a backup. Cup. There's too much noise with Baker. Tebow ran into this. He was like a celebrity. Some of it his own doing. Some of it, his faith-based followers. But Cam's going to play because a quarter of this

league by November 3rd. It always happens. If you're looking at an average backup or cams on the market, you're going to get Cam because, by the way, coaches want to retain their jobs. And if it's Cam and a backup, you're going to go with Cam. So he'll get a job. Is anybody going to build a around him and that market appears to have dried up at this moment. But he'll be in this league. Absolutely. It's too talented. So if and when the current NBA season resumes, LeBron would not be happy if the league

jumped straight into the playoffs. And he shared a plan for how to get the season back on track on the road tripping podcast with Ali Clifton, Channing Fry and Richard Jefferson. One thing you can't just do, just go straight to the playoffs. It discredited the 60 plus games that guys had, you know, fighting for that position. So we got Portland, you got Memphis, you got New Orleans that's kind of, you know, in Sacramento, thinking around there. I mean, if there's five or team games left, why not the five, why not those guys battle it out?

How about just make them play each other all five games? So it was also suggested that Memphis and Sacramento have a three-game series along with Portland and New Orleans and then the winners playing another series to determine who plays the Lakers in the first round of the NBA playoffs. I think it's going to be fewer games, not more. Good luck with all these modifications adding games. I think everybody is going to have to take a long, hard look and owning to we're going to have just a playoff season. I hope they don't modify that too much. But the NBA guys are talking like we're right around the corner going to get this thing done.

And I do not see that. Mark Cuban joins me in 30 minutes from now. I don't see that. I think the NBA is going to have a potential play. playoff season. That is it and it'll last about seven weeks. Joy Taylor, the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping, bud. The Hurdline News. Ryan Rosillo's my buddy. We used to work at another place. Now we don't. He's at the

Ringer, the Ryan Rissillo podcast, brought to you by Mercedes-Benz, the best or nothing. Not that podcast, but our show. How are you doing, bud? I'm great. Thanks for having me on. You bet. This will be shorter than your podcast, which goes a long time. I said I went to Ryan Rosillo's, he lives by me. I did a podcast for like 90 minutes and we just sat there. We might as well opened up beers. It was fantastic.

So I was saying this, and I'm going to ask Cuban about this. The NBA tends to have a younger audience, more into social media, a little more political, a little more socially conscious. The NFL's got an older fan base. We watch the games. We don't watch highlights. The NFL doesn't give a rip, Ryan. They'll do free agency.

They'll do their schedule breakout. They'll do their draft. They don't give a rip what Twitter says. If they did, Kaepernick would be in the league. But I do wonder about the NBA. If they rush back and there's some corona spreading, right? And there's corona breaks out within the league. They could face a massive social media backlash with their young audience.

Now, you have great connections to the NBA. Where are they right now with when do we go back? Do we go back? What are your guys saying, your sources? So the last time I talked to, well, you. The thing that's tough about calling about this stuff is you're calling a lot of guys going, hey, me, I don't know. I don't know. But the most definitive thing that I got probably the middle of this month talking to the kind of league sources where it was just, hey, it's March 15th now.

We're 60 days at least away from even thinking about getting this thing going again. And then I think on that day or within 24 hours, it had changed the Woj having a report that it was 90 days. So there's all sorts of factors. There's how many games do they have to play before they can go to the playoffs? because everybody agrees, teams, players, the execs, that they need some games. Now, I don't know, you know, the Lakers are sitting there on that LeBron cut saying, yeah, hey, why don't you guys battle it out in two playoff rounds, but then playoff playoffs.

Not that the Lakers are going to lose to an eight seat anyway, but that's not going to happen. The body needs to find a way to get adjusted, but the other part that the NBA has pointed out numerous times is arena availability. That's really one of the biggest issues here. So if you just do this thing that I've always thought, like maybe the NBA just runs through August and owns all those dead weak sports-wise nationally. But then they have to worry about things like Milwaukee having the Democratic National Convention in the middle of July there. Just the logistics of it is far more complicated than just getting some start date.

So even though everybody has a different way to figure this thing out, you're trying to answer a question that you don't even know what the question is because nobody knows what a realistic start date even hit. You know, some of these owners are very well off. They're not leveraged like a Mark Cuban. You know, James Dolan's not leverage. But there are a lot of new NBA owners over the last 10 years. I know Robert Sarver for the Sons, you know, was cash poor, I was told at some point a couple years ago. I wonder if there's real desperation from the ownership group to push on Adam Silver. Do you think he's sensing that from some of his owners?

I'm sure some are. Like whenever we try to think about this, like I think we're talking about 30 guys that are close to being billionaires. You know, some are, some are, some are just on paper, which is a whole. always a good thing to point out. I'm sure some of these guys want to get this thing going. You know, the weird thing is, it's like the NFL, and it's a great point about the NFL NBA, because normally the NFL used to always have to kind of like run the lead block

on all the reactionary stuff because the NFL would do it. And then the NBA would be like, oh, by the way, this is our confession protocol while this league is getting destroyed. The NBA is in the midst of it. So the NFL can sort of draft off of this and try to figure out, okay, like, what's working, what isn't working. Yes. But, you know, it's a really good point because, you know,

the NBA is trying to do this on the fly where the NFL can kind of just plan and not worry about September right now, or at least, you know, make a decision. So when I think about owners pushing this, you're right. But I think the players are probably going to be pushing for this too, because it's a partnership. You know, it's basketball-related income. That's what this whole thing, the whole math equation is, how much money do I make? I make my 48 plus percent cut. That's what the players fight for.

That's what the players fight for in these CBAs. So, you know, we've heard that they were getting their checks April 1st. We don't know what's going to happen after that. And you're going to have a lot of players going, hey, I know things are bad, but, you know, I also don't want to lose 20-something percent of my salary this year because that's just, you know, that's how motivated people are, despite how terrible it is what's going around around it. So I think it's going to be collectively everyone trying to get these games going once the numbers start getting real. Yeah, and, you know, I know nobody wants to play in an empty arena, but let's be honest about this.

I was told by a source I trust that an NBA team doctor had told a team in the league currently that had a player that had tested that guys, you're incredibly low risk. For whatever reason, this virus is much more punitive to older Americans. At one point, Italy's average death was 79 and a half years old, and the average Italian death is 81. So, you know, I do wonder, this whole don't play with fans thing. I'm okay with it, Ryan. I just think you tighten up the shot. You pipe in some noise. Your TV partners figure it out.

Like, what do you make of that? Well, there's no question. It's weird, right? I heard Barclay on with you saying, you know, just the idea of being in the playoff game and not having the crowd. Like, you can't do that. Well, okay. And then, yes, there's a social aspect of, like,

making decisions that seem cold and seem motivated by money. But that's kind of what's going on. Right. You know, if you're, like, if we're being real here, doing the real discussion that these guys are having behind closed doors, they're going, okay, how can we find a way? way to not lose all of our playoff television inventory.

Okay? Because our TV partners want to put something on TV. You know, if we have to watch another 1993 tournament game, you know, like, people are starting to lose it a little bit. People are recapping Leitner's shots. Right, right. So I'm sure the TV partners are like, hey, we're open to you

putting this stuff on and the fact of like, okay, so if people are still inside, you know, you've got to think how a programmer is going to think, and they're going to go, we want to put this stuff on television. So even if it's not ideal. Like anybody that's sitting here going, I have this perfect solution, no one has that perfect solution.

So I would imagine that the TV partners, the league, and then even the players are going, this is what you're going to lose monetarily if we do nothing, and this is what we can salvage if we do something. And I'd imagine those are the things that are already planning out. You know, I said yesterday there's never been a great movie with a bad ending. People never hold it against LeBron, his first title in Miami, It was strike shortened.

But the last 10 minutes of the movie was D. Wade, Bosch, and LeBron winning his first title. And that's all we talk about. What a glorious year it was. My takeaway, if I'm the NBA, and just, I don't know if it's a question, but if you have a chance for LeBron to hold up a trophy in a Laker uniform, Ryan, nobody 20 years from now. That's the iconic picture. I think it would be one thing if, you know, the Indiana Pacers and, you know, a small Oklahoma City. were the number one seeds. And, you know, you're thinking to yourself, there's a lot of risk here.

I wonder, you know, Ryan, if the end of the movie's good, LeBron Laker, Jersey, I think there is some risk. Maybe you have to take on it, right? Okay, so let me, because I was thinking about this, let me counter it this way, though. Okay. Do you think the NBA, like if the Pacers were on pace to win 70 games, do you think they'd be like, ah, who cares?

We'll just cancel the season. No, but if you have, no. No. No. But you know how decisions are made at big corporations. A lot of times you're in that room for an hour and they are go either way. And the last guy talking swings the room. LeBron in a Laker uniform holding up a trophy. That is incredible NBA imagery to salvage your ear with Kobe's tragic death, the China mass, and the virus, isn't it? I look it's a positive it's certainly a positive but I think you would agree with me here it is not if you mapped out a ranking of the most important factors whether or not they can bring this back I look I think it is the image the story how it's remembered all those things are at you I just couldn't even imagine it's even close to the top 10 reasons why they try to bring this thing back all right well I'm a talk show host I have the right to be wrong okay I got a lot of time to fill it you're

telling me I only get about three minutes left Let's go to this. Borough Tua debate. Where are you at on that? I want to start with you because I know you too well. You may not like this, but you're a Tua guy and I too like Tua. If Tua were healthy, I'd prefer Tua over Borough. You know how much I love LSU.

I went to five of the games this year, including the playoffs and everything. But when you, like, I'm afraid that what you're doing is that because you're now a Tua guy, you're big time to a guy that on your path to Tua, acceptance and campaigning, you've decided to trash the opponent. Here's a weird concept. I think you can like both guys. I like Burrow a lot. You described him once as Herbert without the arm,

and I'm telling you, man, Burrow has whatever that unquantifiable thing, that we've definitely used wrong in the past. It's true to pick. Like when it comes to quarterback, I'm not going to guarantee anybody in the first round other than Andrew Luck because 50% of them are absolute butts anyway. but I don't think you need to downgrade Burrow to upgrade Tua.

Because if they were both healthy, I agree, I take Tua. But Burrow, whether it's the completion percentage, which is Chuck's down the field. I mean, that guy was taking chances. The way he commanded things, the way he came and just changed the way that LSU looked at themselves in the mirror with his attitude, there's that thing there that when he's in the huddle, the other 10 guys are going to believe in him. and that's not always automatic with a lot of these other big arm guys. Yeah, you know what I've sort of evolved on Burrow, mostly because I'm just talking to a bunch of guys.

My GMs are split on him. I think he's Tony Romo. I think he is a winner. That'd be great. Yeah, but here's my question. Could Tony Romo overcome the Bingle's ownership? In maybe now the most talented division in football, because say what you want about the Browns,

their offensive personnel after they figure out left tackle, is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I haven't heard you talk about the Browns much. That's surprising. Okay. We've got to do this again. See, I only get 10 minutes with you because, you know, I got, you know, whatever. When I saw Cuban and Joe Buck on the list, I was like, okay, my second.

No, I'll barely talk to Buck. I'll give him three minutes. How's that? But Cuban, I'm giving 20. I'm not going to lie to you. You should. You should. Thanks, man.

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there's psychological damage. You're asking people week after week after week to be confined. They've done studies on this where it creates conflict and anger. People need to be outside and walking. You know, does it mean everybody wears one of those N95 masks? You know, they say it blocks 95% of the possibility of you giving it to somebody. Masks for all Americans, you need 300 million or whatevs. But I do think there's, I think at some point, you have to.

do you can't not have. Let's be honest about this. We're all going to make exceptions for stuff, right? Like let's say if I said to you, if we closed, nobody left their house for a year, we'd never have this virus again, but it would completely wreck the economy for 10 years. Would it be worth it? No, because you'd have massive poverty. Poverty means children don't have medical opportunities. They don't have the quality health care. So we're all going to make some exceptions here to balance a massive health crisis and to this point an economic challenge. I don't think it's an economic crisis yet, but it's a challenge. So yes, I mean, you know, if you have to take another eight to ten weeks,

but to eliminate all death the next year, nobody works. All right, but then it wrecks the economy and creates poverty all over America. That spikes. And that means bad news for even the middle class, for children. So, you know, Kirk Herbstreet, a friend of mine, was on yesterday somewhere and said he thinks this thing, forget NBA season. He doesn't think we're going to have a football season. I'll be shocked if we have NFL football this fall, if we have college football. Be so surprised if that happens.

Just because from everything I understand, people that I listen to, you're 12 to 18 months away from the vaccine until you have a vaccine. I don't know how you can let these guys go into locker rooms and let stadiums be filled up and how you can play ball. I just don't know how you can do it with the optics of it. Well, you know, banks were too big to fail. Our government decided the NFL is on the border of too big not to play. It has that kind of economic ramifications across American cities. As Ryan Rusillo also said, the NFL gets to watch the NBA and watch baseball

and see what works and what doesn't. Remember, the NFL has always been a television league. Baseball is a newspaper sport because every day as kids, we'd go to the newspaper to see the box score. So there's a relationship between newspapers and baseball. It's still very powerful. NBA is really huge in social media. The NFL is a TV sport.

No fans? No problem. Shrink the shot, show the field, it fits perfectly into a television, pipe in fake crowd noise. You don't need fans. And players, by the way, have helmets and masks and pads and, I mean, there's, there's, I just think the NFL will figure out a way to do it. Also, the NFL already plays in bad weather the last two and a half months. Push it back to mid-October if you have to. That's my takeaway.

Not that Herb Street is wrong. Is it too extreme? I don't know. I'm going to have Mark Cuban on top of the hour. He's going to tell me if it's extreme. I'm following epidemiologists. The only thing the media has done I don't like. You cannot compare us to China.

I don't believe any of the numbers out of China. It's a dictatorship. Don't compare us to Europe. We're younger than Europe. New York City's average age is 35 years old. That's young by American standards. Most cities average 37, 38 years of age. It's also got a great health care system in New York City.

It's a dynamic financial area in the country. Europe, Germany, by the way, is handling this in Europe much better than the other countries. It's also the richest, most powerful economy in Europe. They have some social distancing. There's density, population density in Italy and Spain and New York City. So a lot of this stuff, I don't know. I do get uncomfortable when the media that's not doctors, start comparing us to other provinces and countries.

You know, we're not Mexico, we're not China, we're not Italy. We're the states. In fact, within the United States, you have Texas that's huge and very spread out, and then urban areas like San Francisco and in New York. You know, in Los Angeles, people live in cars. In New York, they have a subway system. Is that problematic? It would seem to me it is.

So I don't have any answers. Herb Street's going to get crushed for saying this. I don't know that he's too extreme. I don't know that he's wrong, but I do know the NFL gets to watch baseball in the NBA, and they're playing outdoors. It's cold weather to begin with. They can move the schedule back. I think we'll have some level of NFL on television.

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We're live in L.A. It's hour two and a Friday. Mark Cuban moments away. This is The Heard. Wherever you may be, and however you may be listening, we are on Fox Sports Radio, IHeart Radio,

FS1, Serious XM Channel 83, Joy, Taylor. is joining me on the radio side. You cannot see her. As we are going through this, lots of opinions about the coronavirus. I'm not an epidemiologist. I, like you, read everything I can get my hands on, have shut TV off, have shut some cable TV off for the time being, because it's, I always worry that we, we're using journalism as a commodity now, not as journalism and sometimes on cable TV. it is either defending the president or attacking him. And I don't think that's where we're at here. I don't think this is a political story.

I think this is a human story. And we've got to get our arms around it as quickly as we possibly can. So Mark Cuban's a couple of minutes away. You know, I said this about the NFL draft. The NFL draft is a phone call business. Free agency is just a phone call business. That is social distancing. The free agency, it's GM's calling agents on the phone.

There's no reason not to have social distancing other than being worried about, quote, the optics. The NFL's not worried about optics. The NFL draft, it's GMs on a phone calling into the league. You're not going to probably have, if you do have those war rooms, everybody's six to eight feet apart. You have to make decisions. You can't just shut down the economy for two years. It's a cost analysis. You have to look at what's in harm's way, how do we make it work, how do we keep people safe,

But how do we, you know, keep the economy alive? Remember who suffers in a bad economy? It's not the wealthy. It can often be below middle class and the poorest people. These are the people who are suffering most in restaurants. It's not the owner of the restaurant. It's the guy the line cook. These are all things that grown-ups have to discover, discuss.

These are the kind of the, you contextualize this stuff economically, and you get the smartest people in the world, the smartest, guys like Mark Cuban, and they figure. it out. That's what you have to do. You have to talk about it. You can't be offended that you're going to, you know, scare somebody or get somebody's going to get mad at you on Twitter. Hell with Twitter. You got to talk about this stuff. You got to talk your way through stuff. You know, when comedians used to sit in rooms on television shows to craft the joke, there's a lawsuit that was foisted up years ago in California, and the law came down in California. And they said, when you're crafting jokes in comedy rooms, people don't have to be. You know, a right not to be offended. That's how you craft a joke. You throw stuff against the wall with 10 people and if you're offended or your PC, tough. The judge ruled you don't have a right not to be offended when you're crafting a joke. Well, when you're crafting legislation, you have hard conversations in room with multiple people. Throw it out there. What's your idea? If it's offensive, that doesn't mean it will be the legislation. But grownups have to have really uncomfortable

conversations. This is what guys like Mark Cuban do. You got to sit down and talk in a White House briefing room. Before you go out to the public, you have these conversations in the back room. Everything's discussed. This is what adults do. It's what economists do. It's what they do in Silicon Valley. Nobody has answers. You're figuring it out on the fly. You know, you can't shut the economy down for two years. So you just, you sit there and you think, when's the soonest we can open it up or perhaps the latest and when's the safest time? I wouldn't want to have to make these decisions. Mark Cuban is joining us, the Mavericks owner. They were having a terrific year, an entrepreneur, an investor, and a very smart guy. So I'll get right to it. You're a busy person. I was talking Mark about this,

about cost analysis. If you could shut the economy down for two years and nobody ever gets it again, that sounds great, but we would go into a full-scale depression and have utter poverty. So you guys like you have to have these very uncomfortable conversations. When you're talking about, you know, soon, but not too soon, this morning, where do you land on that? I mean, all you can do is look for the information. I mean, Colin, we're working with imperfect information right now, and that's the genesis of the problem. Nobody really knows when this thing will end. Nobody really knows what it is yet. No one knows, can we cure it. We think we can, but it's not done yet. And, you know, on one hand, It could take a long time.

The other hand, the cure could pop up tomorrow, go into trials, and be ready to go in three weeks. We don't know. So you have to anticipate all the different options, plan for the worst and hope for the best. Do we need a vaccine to really have a full-fledged economy where people are in restaurants? Your opinion on that? No, because a vaccine is to prevent you from getting it. And again, let me take a step back. I'm not a doctor.

I'm not a medical expert. I'm just giving you, you know, my opinion and nothing more. So I think we need to know that the doctors are telling us it's safe. You know, we need to know that the experts are telling us it's safe. We can't guess. We can't, oh, now we have a vaccine. No, we, you know, when the surgeon general and the doctor, when Dr. Fauci says it's okay, then it's okay in my book.

I do worry about sometimes on cable. Journalism becomes a commodity where it's, it's about either attacking a president or defending him. do you think the news coverage has amplified the problem or been a non-factor? Amplified it dramatically, dramatically. Because first you have to recognize who's the audience for most cable news, right? It's older. You know, 21-year-olds aren't turning on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News to get their information about any of this. What's happening is you're dealing, you know, if you look at the average age of someone watching any of those three cable news networks, it's 65 plus.

And who is the audience most likely to be negatively affected and possibly die from the coronavirus? That same age group. And so I don't think they've handled it correctly at all. And I don't think necessarily we've communicated with young people who get their news from streaming or maybe Snapchat Discover or maybe even TikTok. And they're the ones going in Austin and having beach day or whatever, swim day and ignoring all the restrictions. And so you've got to know how to communicate with each demographic. And I don't think anybody's done a good job of that right now. Mark Cuban, joining us, owner of the Mavericks, busy guy, entrepreneur and investor joining us here in the herd.

When, for instance, density, like New York City, Italy, 60 million people's size of Michigan, a little larger, clearly population density is an issue. Does that mean to you that if we can get the large metros under control, for your league, you have some large metros and you also have, you know, you have Oklahoma City? Do you see this? Is that an advantage, a disadvantage? Will that be considered? Is it possible the NBA would play in seven or eight cities with less population density? I have no idea, Colin, to be honest. I think if I had to guess, I would guess that we do it with no fans until we're absolutely certain that we can actually. account for the safety of fans. And obviously, we wouldn't do anything at all until we could account for the safety of players and staff. If we can do it, you know, in an area where, you know, it's almost like, what was that

movie, a Dramida strain when I was a kid, where they, you know, or the one, where the nuclear power plant went, you know, went haywire where they came in and hosed you down before you can go in and out. We might be in that situation. But you know what? If that's what we have to do, and I'm not trying to, you know, make light of it. But if that's what we have to do, sports play such an important role in our society right now. And again, this is me just speculating.

I'm not doing this at all based on any scientific facts. We're in new territory, and I'm certainly not an expert. So if the experts tell us that if we disinfect everybody doing A, B, and C, and then they go into a confined area, and we can play a game that's then produced and presented maybe through robotic cameras, who knows, on television and streaming, my guess is, and this is me speaking, not Adam, that we would do it. Because sports is so important to us right now, we need something to cheer for, we need something to get excited about.

We need something to connect with each other in our communities beyond, you know, individualized connections like we're doing now. We want something to root for. And if the NBA can lead the charge, I know that's important to us, and hopefully we can. Mark Cuban joining us. I, I, the banks appear well capitalized. I don't know.

I always worry about banks in this situation. Economically speaking, it is, we've gone through crises before. How concerned are you about the economy going forward? You know, I'm not concerned about the banks so much because the Federal Reserve will take whatever precautions and whatever steps are necessary. They're being very aggressive right now. Obviously, I'm concerned about the economy because, again, we're an uncharted terrorist. Nobody can predict, you know. But what gives me hope and what gives me faith is, you know,

what makes the United States different than every other country on the planet is that we're very entrepreneurial. We're very creative. If you look down the list of the top inventions of the past 50 years, you know, it's a checklist for 90 percent of them being American-based companies. And so that gives me a lot of hope. And, you know, there'll be a point in time, Colin, when you and I are talking and we look back, whether it's three years or five years. and say, oh, my goodness, look at these amazing companies that were created out of the soot of the coronavirus, because, you know, there are creative people who have a vision for what it might look like or what they wanted to look like on the other side of this that is going to be amazing. And so I have a lot of hope.

You know, I think, you know, we will come out of it. I just don't know when or what it will look like. You know, with challenges and obstacles come opportunity. Nobody knows that more than you. I have argued for a long time and legalized sports gambling benefits football, probably in America, more than other sports. We all grew up kind of betting football. If this creates an opportunity to start the NBA season in Christmas and then own June, July, and perhaps early August, would you be for that if this? Oh, yeah.

You would. Oh, are you kidding me? I've been, you know, when David Stern, rest in peace, David, we miss you. And it would have been incredible to watch David in action. all this. When David Stern was commissioner, when I got into the league, I mean, I was like, why are we doing this? No one wants, you know, football dominates prior to Christmas. Why don't we start Christmas Day and then go into the summer? And the answer was right. You know, during, historically, the number of homes that are watching television during the summer

declined significantly. But now with cord cutting, we're in a different universe. Now with the corona world, we're in a different universe. And so depending on how long this goes and what happens and when we come back, if we come back, you know, the viewership habits will be completely different. That creates opportunity for us to take chances and try different things. In my perfect world, the NBA effectively is year-round. You know, maybe we're playing, quote-unquote, summer league in August or September in October, and then going right into the start of the season. And, you know, maybe now since the Olympics is postponed, and who knows what's going on with Feebuff with international basketball,

we take this opportunity to create our own version of the World Cup that the NBA and the NBA players own that we have the broadcast rights to, and we limit the Olympics to players 21 years and under because we're going to need new sources of revenue globally that help to compensate for whatever losses we have here, and there will be losses. Many have suggested I'm one. I would love to see you go into public service.

I think you have an interesting balance of business savvy and humanity. Mark, this has obviously been a moment. My wife doesn't listen to my show. I'm not sure she knows what I do for a living. She asked me if Mark Kuman had been on yet. And she said, then and only then will I listen to your show. Has this inspired you at some level beyond being wealthy and an NBA fan to make a difference in our lives? this two, three week stretch, you have been empowering so many people and holding people accountable.

How has it landed for you? Is it perhaps changing you? Yeah, you know, and I appreciate that, Colin. And let me just say, thanks to your wife and my kids and my family won't watch Shark Tank, so I don't feel bad. But yeah, it is. You know, I've always had a saying that you don't have to be the leader to be a leader. And I just happened to be in a unique position with unique circumstances. I mean, it was just happenstance that the Mavs were the last game when the season shut down.

It's just happenstance that, you know, ESPN asked me to do the interview, and it came, you know, and I had been thinking to support our employees and continue to pay them, and I happened to mention it. And that just kind of acted as a catalyst for everything that's happened since then. And I'm in a unique position where I don't have to worry about my next dollar. You know, I don't, you know, I'm not quarantined in the same apartment that I would have gone nuts in had this happened when I was 21 or 22. And so, you know, I have a voice. I have a platform.

I can speak out. I don't care what others think or say, you know, and so I just try to do the right thing now. And, you know, I don't know if it's made me want to run for public office more because my family's still against it, but it's made me realize that I can't help, I can't influence, I can call out bad actors, I can support good actors, I can help small businesses because my years have experience there.

And why wouldn't I do it? And so I've made the effort to be a lot more visible and be a lot more vocal. Mark Cuban joining us. I know he has limited time, but I do think you're a voice and somebody, I believe you have the best interests going forward as somebody who's made a lot of money in corporate America. There is a sense in America. You know, the billions will go to the corporations. they won't help the restaurateur.

Do you ever, because I tend to be a financial moderate where I believe in some regulations, but not over-regulated. But in times like this, if you look back, there are times where people, there are a lot of bad actors, Mark, are you concerned that will pump in, this could become a political story, three to four months of massive Fed money, and it goes, unfortunately, to too few people who don't have your means. Yes, I am. You know, there's an old saying that QE is basic income for rich people, quantitative easing, and, you know, it acts as a put on the stock market. Now, you know, we're dealing with 100% uncertain information, so any decisions are going to be wrong for a lot of people. You know, imperfect information leads to imperfect decisions. We're kind of in a ready fire aim as opposed to ready-eim fire mode. And so, yes, I'm concerned about that. I've been very vocal about the fact that if a company, like Boeing, as an example who I think has become a bad actor in a lot of ways, is going to take government money,

then we need to do a Warren Buffett deal. When Warren Buffett gave $5 billion to Bank of America to help support them and effectively bail them out, not only did he get equity, but he got warrants. And when Warren Buffett sold those warrants five years later, he's invested $5 billion, ended up with $17 billion. Why can't the government make the exact same kind of deal? And the Boeing CEO, when he was asked about this, said, well, you know what, if the government wants equity from us, then we'll just go to other sources of capital and we'll work with them. Well, guess what, Boeing? Go work with them. Right. Kiss our, kiss the task.

You know, you can't, we need to negotiate as if, you know, someone smart was at the negotiating table. And I will say this. I've been dealing with some folks in the Treasury Department and what Secretary Mnuchin is doing and has said he's going to do. in terms of negotiating for some of the bailout funds and asking for equity, asking for warrants and options, I think is good. So that gives me some hope. But to answer your bigger question, I am concerned. And I've said very publicly that anything that we do for corporate executives that is paid for

by taxpayer money, every single employee for that company should get the exact same thing. Because no company comes back without every employee in that company busting their ass. And so if there's an executive that gets a million dollars in bonuses and they make a million dollars, that's 100%. Every other employee in that company should get 100% of bonuses, whether it's equities, whatever it may be, equal to their salary. And you have to do that because the reality is nobody is going to get ahead getting paid by the hour or just getting paid a salary. You have to have equity in something. It's just like our homes. You know, we own equity in our homes, and when they appreciate, that's really where most people,

Most of our wealth is across the country. And for those people who don't have homes or just working by the hour basic salary, we need to give them equity in these companies because that's the only way we're going to close the gap. So that an individual getting paid by the hour, if they have stock in the company, stock in their 401k, they get to benefit as much as the CEO, and that's how we close the income equality gap. By the way, Mark, in Los Angeles, Manhattan Beach, you know well. They're closing everything. I'm sitting in my house a couple power walks in the neighborhood, but I'm not going anywhere.

Just if I could ask a question about Dallas, are they heating warnings? For the most part, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll go take a walk around the neighborhood and keep our distance, but we're not letting kids come over our house. We're not letting our kids go anywhere. And, you know, fortunately, our kids' school makes them sign in at 8 in the morning and turn in their assignments and those types of things.

So that's helped quite a bit as well. Mark, thank you for talking to our audience and for sharing time with this. You're incredibly busy. You're always thoughtful. And thank you so much. Thank you, Colin. Have me on anytime. All right. Mark Cuban. All right. That was nice. And I thought he gave you some information. I know some of this stuff is, you know, it's about the markets and the Fed and it's very complicated. But he sounded, and I asked him about that. I knew it would be a complicated answer. But my takeaway is, how does Mark feel about it? He's in an information tunnel that people like me, you perhaps. are not. And if he feels confident, then I feel confident. So that's where we stand. Joe Looney's the new Cowboy Center, Travis Frederick retired. He's going to be on later in the show. We'll lighten things up a little bit. But again, I'm just, you know, and one of the things Mark addressed very early on, you cannot worry about pushback on Twitter. We're going to have to come back and make this thing work, and it's not going to be perfect. You know, there is risk

to everything. You cannot keep everybody in their house for two years. You stop being an idealist. That's not realistic. I mean, Joy and I were talking during the break. That's not a discussion going on with grownups in America. You know, we've lost 12, 1,300 people in America. We are fighting. This is a fluid situation. But let's have grown up conversations, not screaming, yelling, pointing, marginalizing on social media. We got to get through it. Let's be grownups. Don't try to win Twitter. It's a real thing. And you have to have to have to have to have these uncomfortable conversations on getting people back

and just limiting exposure. It's not a perfect world we live in. Around the corner, Charles Barkley has some thoughts on what's going on. That'll be next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet.

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Listen to the Cliverts show on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. If you're watching the latest season, of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know, there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show.

I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real House Wise franchise. The Drama, The Alliance's, M&T, everybody. talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back, Godavio. I want to thank Mark Cuban for stopping by today. All sorts of interesting stuff. We talk some economy,

but mostly the virus, the NBA, what does it mean going forward? And he's a pretty aspirational guy, some political thoughts. I think Mark Cuban is one of those guys. I'm not anti-business man running for president because, you know, I don't necessarily always love the current one, but guys like Cuban, I think, are thoughtful, out-of-the-box, contrarian thinkers, and they can't be purchased. I like that. Joy Taylor with the news.

No, no. This is the Herdline News. Sponsored by Liberty Mutual Insurance, only pay for what you need. So the Browns brought in veteran case Keenham to back up Baker Mayfield. Yeah. And former Cleveland quarterback, Jake Del Ome, says that it's very possible that Keenum could see the field at some point this season. They need better quarterback playing Cleveland. Listen, there's no other way of saying it.

They need better quarterback play. That's going to be the biggest key there. They have a lot of talent on that football team. certainly we know the two wide outs and then signing Hooper to go with Injoku. So they've got some weapons. They have a stable of running back. Don't be surprised if you see Case Keenan come time in November if Baker struggles. I don't think they'll be afraid in the least bit to put in case.

I mean, he wasn't drafted by this regime. You know, Baker wasn't drafted by this regime that has taken over. By the way, when Baker came out, who was my comp? Case Keenum. That's who he is. That's true. This is who he is. less mature, better arm.

Just remember this. They'll give Baker the year. But Kevin Stefansky won 13 games with Case Keenham in Minnesota. Case Keenham to Kevin Stefansky is a franchise quarterback. They went 13 and 3 with his offense in case. He's going to have, they'll give Baker September. What if Baker's nonsense? What if he calls out somebody like the medical staff again or something?

I think this staff would get out of that. This team has way too much talent, Joy. Way too much. count to go one in three or one and four? I don't know. I mean, I agree with everything that you're saying, but I do think that they give Baker the year, like the whole year. Unless he just, he doesn't win a game. Well, he's going to win games.

Like, which is not going to happen. I don't see how you don't just give him the year. Like, you know what Case Keenham is, right? We know what Case Keenham is. Baker Mayfield was the number one overall pick. So whether he, this is his regime or not, I can't even remember. remember his regime now, honestly, he's been through so many coaches and situations in his career already. So I think you give him the whole year. If nothing comes of it, it's not, it's not working,

then you move on. But to move to Case Keenham halfway through the season, I mean, look at the division. You know you're not going to win the division. You're going into the season, knowing that is not a possibility. What if, what if Baker, what if they're three and three, Baker loses the next two games, they fall four games behind? And he says something that, that incites some angst among the coaching staff. I think they look at Case Keenham and go, let's prove a point here. Case went 13 and 3 the last time I coached him.

Stefanski likes Case Keenham. That's why I brought him in. He had him in Minnesota. No, of course. I just think when you make a move like that, you can't reverse it. Like, once you take the team away from Baker, it's a wrap.

So that's a pretty big decision. You love this. So Teddy Bridgewater is now the Panthers quarterback, and he's now tasked with filling shoes of Cam Newton, but it's a situation he had some experience with in New Orleans, so he said he's ready for the challenge. I'm aware of a situation that I'm coming to. You know, it's a unique situation.

For me, all I have to continue to do myself. Last year, when Drew got injured, I had big shoes to fill them in. And I just constantly reminded myself to just be you. You know, be the better version of Teddy will I be. By doing so, it allowed me to be, you know, a better team-mate, better football player, and a better person in the United. I don't necessarily know what the pulse is in Carolina. for Cam's exit.

I know as far as what I'm seeing on the internet, people are pretty splits on Cam. I'm on the side that I think Cam is still a franchise quarterback, but it felt like this was a unique opportunity for Carolina to move off of Cam without the least amount of friction possible. Right. You have a new coach, you have a new owner. Cam's been injured.

He can't get evaluated by other teams right now, so you're not going to be able to trade him. So they've moved on from Cam, and now they have Teddy Bridgewater, who is universally liked. I've never heard anyone say a bad word about Teddy Bridgewater. Joy, he wins games. Like we got to, he's not just a nice guy. No, no, of course.

Yeah, he wins games. So I, well, so I'm saying like him, it's a unique situation in that when you think of, at least for me, when I think of the Panthers, I think of Cam Newn. So it's going to be a new era for the Carolina Panthers, a positive one, I think. But as far as him filling Cam's shoes, he's in a situation where it can, pretty much almost only go up because Cam has been so injured and they've had some struggles. So it's not like he's coming into a situation where he's replacing someone who just won a Super Bowl like he's replacing the guy, you know, John Elway just retired or something.

You know what I mean? So it's a little bit of a good situation there with the way that things ended. So if the NBA season continues, there's still a lot of questions about if fans will be able to attend the games and LeBron is strongly against the idea of playing with no one in attendance. having a game without fans is just what is our what is what is what is the worst sport without fan there's no excitement but there's no crying there's no joy and there's no back and forth there's no rhyme or reason that you want to go on a road and just dethrone the home team because of their fans and vice versa like that's what also brings up the competitive side of the players

to know that you're going on the road in a hostile environment and yes you plan against that opponent in front you, but you really want to kick the fans to too. Everything he's saying is accurate, of course. It's going to be difficult to imagine playing, you know, a game seven NBA finals with no fans in the stands, obviously. But we're also living in unprecedented times. Right. So everything that Mark Cuban just said about the importance of sports in times like these

and how therapeutic it can be and how it can, you know, unite people and just, you know, we all want something to cheer for and something to root for, I feel like we have to get past that hurdle. Like we just have to accept that there are likely not going to be fans in the stands and just adjust how we're all adjusting to the mentality of like, look, we can't just

go to the local bar right now and get a beer. Like, we're just going to have to get it out of the fridge and chill for a month or two or however long this takes. You don't want to be... We all have to adjust our mentality and make the best of it. Yeah, you don't want to be rigid in times of crisis. Right.

Work to find a solution. You know, sitting on Twitter and saying, we can't lose a single life. Nobody goes outside for a year. Well, there's a cost for that, which is more poverty than any of us have seen in our lives if we shut down the economy. You have to weigh everything. You have to have adult conversations. Don't be rigid. Listen to new.

Like Mark Cuban said, every day I learn something new. That's what this is about. Open up your ears. Listen, read, and just kind of day to day, things change. So the way that I look at it is if this NBA season finishes and we likely play it without fans, we're obviously never going to forget this. Like this is an unprecedented time. We will be talking about this for the rest of our lives, what we're going through right now.

But when you look back on the NBA season, the joy and the excitement and the positivity that's going to bring fans to be able to sit down and watch an NBA game during this time where everyone is completely lost and we're, as Mark said, we're all working on. imperfect information. The fans not being in the stands will be the last thing that people think of. Of course, it's going to be a challenge for players. But if players keep in mind what it is that they're representing, being out there competing and giving that to fans and giving that to people in their homes

who are looking for hope and inspiration, like it's a bigger picture thing than just having fans in the stands. Yep, good stuff. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News. Travis Frederick's going to be a Hall of Famer. He retired a little early, perhaps not too early, the perfect time after a couple of injuries for the Cowboys. The new center is Joe Looney, funny guy for the Cowboys.

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Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back. Good to have you. And Joe Looney is now the Dallas Cowboys Starting Center, opened in the NFL with a 9-8. Titans, and now he's been for the Cowboys almost half a decade now. And Joe Looney is now joining us. For the record, he's been at home with a kindergartner for about 10 days. How much fun. Now it's fun.

Are you exhausted? Oh, man. I'm so tired around here. You know what? These kindergarten teachers need a raise. They need my talent because they are really out here, you know, being the true heroes. So Travis Frederick is as good as center as this league. has had in a long time.

It is, it is, listen, if you back up Travis Frederick, you know, at least you're backing up the world's best player at his position. Were you shocked when he retired? Yeah, you know, you know, Travis is a great football player. And to see that, to see that news, it was, you know, it was unbelievable. But, you know, I respect his decision. And, you know, he came out and said that he was dealing with some stuff off the field. and, you know, I got kids, I got kids, you know, that I got to play with for the rest of my life, too.

And if something was, you know, you know, harming me or going to get in the way of that, you know, I would have to make the decision, too. Joe Looney, Cowboys Center joining us. My doubt very strongly, we're going to have OTAs. As somebody who has been around this league for now eight years, how affected you, would you be having no OTAs? Well, you know, since I've been in the league a long time, you know, I really know how these offenses work. I know how the league operates.

I think the biggest challenge if we don't have OTAs is going to be for younger guys who are coming into the league who have to learn these playbooks, which are, you know, just mentally they are, you know, on another level than college. You know, you're going through so much checks and balances and whatnot in the playbook. So, you know, it's really going to affect them, you know, for us. older guys, you know, I think at some point when the coronavirus, you know, starts, you know, we start flatten the curve and we're able to go and work out with each other. You know, I think, you know, the wide receivers and quarterbacks are going to be able to get there, you know, their time and down. And, you know, ultimately, you know, it's going to be how much time

they got to, you know, these young guys to learn these playbooks. You know, DAC is going to get a contract here. And, you know, it's been a lot of pushback and you've played for a lot of teams. The Cowboys, it's just different, isn't it, being a Dallas Cowboys? boy. Yeah, you know, we're always on TV, you know, whether it's good or bad or, you know, in between. We're always going to be on TV. And, you know, it's fun. You know, it's fun to always have that kind of target on your back. I think every athlete, you know, wants that pressure on them, you know, to perform and show people that they could, you know, block out the noise, too. Are you concerned Mike McCarthy's going to have a new system? Are you a little bit concerned that you

go, will you be able to get, I mean, can you call Mike? Could you get a playbook? Can you get started on it sitting at home? Well, no, you know, obviously, you know, sitting at home, we all can't do anything. I think the best thing we can do is to make sure, you know, we're still getting our workouts, you know, whether it's, you know, trying to find a hill to run outside or, you know, doing that, making sure that we're in shape for, you know, when they do say, okay, it's time to come back.

And then it's really time to roll. So I think that's what we could do right now. It's most important as players. Do you think DAC at all is a little frustrated with the negotiations? I mean, if I was in negotiations with my bosses for a year and a half, I think it would be exhausting. Do you think he's ever gotten kind of exhausted by it or frustrated? Man, you know, Dak is a great guy, man.

He's one of the best human beings I've ever met. And I don't think he gets frustrated. I think, you know, as athletes, this is just all. something we have to go through. The business process is something that's, you know, a part of the game. But I truly feel, you know, Dak just wants to be out there on that field, man. He wants to get a W.

And, you know, he's one of those guys that, you know, deserves that heroic moment because of the way he works and the way he carries himself. And, you know, whether, you know, he gets a big contract, franchise tag, whatever it is, you know, this kid just wants to win football games.

Joe Looney, a Cowboy Center, offensive lineman is joining us. when a new CBA was agreed upon, which for my business means I get the NFL to talk about for 10 more years, some of the star players didn't love it. But, Joe, when that contract was signed, you were a backup. Now you'll be a starter. Take me into your thought process with the new CBA as a backup, as kind of a, you know, a guy in the NFL, not a, you know, not a superstar player.

How did you view that whole process? Right. You know, I viewed it from two different standpoint. You know, I viewed it from my standpoint. And also, you know, I have a younger brother, James Lut, at place for the Green Bay Packers. And I viewed it, you know, from his standpoint, too. You know, I want my brother to be able to, you know,

play in the league as long as you can and make as much money as you can. And from my standpoint, you know, it looked like it was helping out the veteran players and the younger players in the league. You know, it was putting money in their pockets for the hard work that they do and they deserve it. there's a possibility, I think it could be somewhat remote, but it's still a possibility that what if you had to play with no fans for September and early October because the virus still wasn't quite at a place

where we're comfortable putting 70,000 people shoulder to shoulder? Would it be weird to play with no fans for you? Hey, Kyle, let me tell you, if there was no fans in that stadium, when our defense was on the field, I'd be screaming the louder. This sounds like 70,000 fans right at stadium. Because, you know, that's not so much you're trying to wait games out here on Sunday. You know, that's what you, you know, you put behind it. But, you know, as far as, you know, the fans being in the stadium, you know,

if this does carry out longer than we expect, you know, I think it's wise for us to definitely follow the guidelines that were presented. You know, I got two parents down in Florida. You know, quick shout out to all my family, the loonies down in Florida, watching this. You know, I got two parents down in Florida that are over 60 years old, and I wouldn't want to do anything to put their lives in jeopardy.

You know, so I think it's important that we do follow these guidelines, whether you know you're an essential worker or non-essential worker. By the way, are your parents okay? Yes, we're doing great down there. I bet my dad's probably looking at the TV screen right now screaming, you know, cuckoo for Cocoa

Buc. He was my, man, he was my coach growing up and literally me and my brother, so, you He was definitely the football teacher, and my mom was just the glue that held it all together. Moms are always the glue that hold it all together. Joe Looney, well, congratulations. You're the starting center for the Dallas Cowboys. That sounds great, doesn't it?

Oh, man, it does. And, you know, it's a true honor. You know, I just want to go out there, man, you know, make Travis proud and, you know, make all those, make all those, you know, great offensive line guys, you know, that played here. you know, with the Cowboys, that great tradition and just keep it going. You know, we've got guys like Akmar, Iris Smith, L.C., Connor Williams. You know, the way these guys come to work every day, it just makes you want to be a better football player. So I just got to give all the things to them.

Joe, you're a good guy. Have fun with your family and social distancing is unique, but you're adhering to it. I love to hear that and thank you so much. Yes, sir. Thank you so much. Appreciate you having me on. Joe Looney of the Dallas Cowboys. So good show today. Ryan Rosillo pushed back at me from the ringer in the first hour.

Mark Cuban, very informational. And Joe Looney, that is an opportunity presented that he probably didn't predict. He is now the starting center on one of the better offensive lines in the NFL. I actually think when you enter a business and it's established like the Cowboy O line and it's good, it's inspiring. You feel a certain responsibility to step up and play great. I think he'll do fine. You got plans this weekend. Be prepared.

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does Daniel Jones take a step back? There are eight teams in the NFL. The Bengals, the Giants, the Cleveland Browns, the Dallas Cowboys, Miami, Tampa Bay with Tom Brady, Carolina at Washington, where you either have a new coach, you have a new quarterback in a new system, you have a new coordinator. And it's interesting. How will it affect those teams? I do think there is one thing that I've always thought matters, and I get a lot of crap for. it because I make a big deal out of it every single year. And finally, for the first time, 20 years or 15 or whatever it's been of me doing syndicated

radio, the one day that I go nuts on every year and you people push back and say I'm overhyping it, I'm finally right. It took me 20 years. But why the NFL schedule release is not. never, will never, ever, I suspect, be as important as this year. That's coming up. Discover matches all the cash back you're earning your credit card end of the first year, except that at 99% of the places that take cards.

Get used to hearing yes, discover.com slash yes. Joe Buck, Jason McIntyre on the corner. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Here we are. Final hour on a Friday. Joe Buck, 15 minutes. Jason McIntyre 40 minutes, live in LA. This is The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Joy Taylor is joining me, at least on the radio side. I can see here. You cannot. We're making it up as we go, sort of this week, but we've been very fortunate. Mark Cuban stopped by an hour ago. We've had Charles Barkley this week. We've had some really outstanding guests. People have time. They've come to connect with you. We want to thank you if we've added normalcy to your life.

You've certainly added it to ours. Joy, I think I speak for both of us here. Just doing something. There are a lot of people in apartments with kids can't get out, you know, in urban environments where they can't leave their apartment. I feel lucky I can go out and sit in my backyard and look at the sun at least. So how are you hanging in there? I'm luckily, very luckily, doing great.

I mean, my schedule hasn't changed very much as I told you really. in the week, I pretty much go to work, come home and take a nap, work out, and go eat dinner, and go back to sleep anyway every day. So glad to be on the air with you. As you said, having something to do every day is super important. So happy to be able to be in everyone's living rooms and on their radio and, you know, doing something normal. Yeah, I need a haircut and I'm running out of clothes. That part I will say. I will, you know, usually, I think the NFL's got a break on this. Unlike Kerb Street, I do think we'll have an NFL season. Is it abridged? Who maybe not without fans, but I think we'll have one.

Banks were too big to fail. I think the NFL's too big in the sports world not to have a season to some point. Strike shortened, perhaps. We've had that. Maybe it's virus shortened. But the NFL got a break here. The combine ends and the virus hits. And free agency is a telephone business.

The schedule, April 17th, it's an internet business. and the draft is a telephone business. You can practice social distancing with all of those, and they all have wildly impactful influences on our sports culture. We love talking about free agency in the NFL. We love the draft. You know, don't race to Twitter and go woke. You can have a draft.

It's a telephone business. The NFL is going to do the draft. Now, the other thing is I've always loved the NFL schedule. One thing you guys like more than I do, is the Pro Bowl. I think it's unwatchable. One thing I like more than you is the NFL schedule release. I do think it matters.

If you have a Pro Bowl quarterback and face very few Pro Bowl quarterbacks, that's an advantage. The Patriots have the toughest schedule this year losing Tom Brady. I absolutely think that's the difference between 9 and 7 and 7 and 9. Tampa Bay has got an easier schedule.

So this is interesting, though. Eight teams in the NFL have either a new coach, a new system, a new quarterback, or a young quarterback. Bingles, Giants, Cleveland, Dallas, Washington, Carolina, Tampa, and Miami. I think for Tom Brady is a prime example with the schedule. Here's a prime example with Brady. If you look at Tampa's schedule, they have tough games on it. They have really tough games on the schedule.

But if Tom Brady, no OTA, very limited. camp. If they get Carolina and the Giants early in the season, maybe the Chargers breaking in a quarterback, it's a big break. That's a big break for them. Carolina's got a new coach and a quarterback and a new system. But if the New Orleans Saints with Sean Payton and Drew Breeze and that offense, if they have to go to New Orleans, who they play twice next year, if they have to play them mid-September and early October, they're in big trouble. They're not one in those football games because you have a decisive. advantage when you have less practice in chemistry as a younger player or a older player in a new

system. I'll give you an example. The New York Giants or a prime example. Eli Manning came out and he said he does think that Daniel Jones could take a step back. New coach, new coordinator, no camp, limited preseason. Think about this for the New York Giants. These defenses, this is with Joe Judge, new coordinators, and a young quarterback. These are the defenses, the New York Giants. The New York will play this year. It's unbelievable. At Baltimore, at Seattle, at Rams, 49ers, Steelers, and Eagles twice. You get four of those games in the first five weeks. Season over. You're just not ready for it.

If you opened at Baltimore TV game, two weeks later, the Niners, followed by the Eagles and the Steelers, you go 0 and 4, 1 in 5. It is really hard when you're looking up at the Cowboys. have better players and the Eagles have a much better organization, you're not a playoff team in a wildly competitive NFC. So I do think it is a big deal. April 17th last year was the schedule release. I've always talked about it. I give it an entire show. I may give it four shows this year. That's how big I think it is. Mark Cuban came on about 50 minutes ago. We talked about a variety of things. You know, Mark said more than once, you know, I'm not a doctor on this

stuff, but we do have a national health crisis, which has also become a economic challenge. I don't think we're in an economic crisis yet because we have an infusion of $2 trillion minimum. Remember, that'll be $3 and $4 trillion if you count other ways to get people money. Loans and the banks are sold in America. But the first thing I asked him about was, you know, NBA owner, NBA season. do you have a gut feeling on when you guys in the midst of this could resume play? This is me just speculating.

I'm not doing this at all based on any scientific facts. We're in new territory, and I'm certainly not an expert. The experts tell us that if we disinfect everybody doing A, B, and C, and then they go into a confined area, and we can play a game that's then produced and presented maybe through robotic cameras, who knows, on television and streaming, My guess is, and this is me speaking, not Adam, that we would do it. Because sports is so important to us right now. We need something to cheer for.

We need something to get excited about. We need something to connect with each other in our communities beyond, you know, individualized connections like we're doing now. We want something to root for. And it also should be noted professional athletes. Many would be asymptomatic. They're the healthiest people in our society. they are younger for whatever reasons on the virus.

It's not as punitive to young people. So, you know, these are things. Do you get everybody tested for Corona? Every player, every coach, every trainer, every official. You play in arenas. Again, I think it's on the table. I don't think you should get inflexible or rigid. It's on the table.

A lot of players don't want to play that way, but do you want a season or do you not want a season? If you want it, you may have to play in empty arenas for a while, if not the entirety of the remainder of the season. Mark Cuban also agreed with me. Charles Barkley and I talked about this yesterday where whenever you get a crisis, some people panic.

Other people see opportunities. And I've been talking to, I go home every day. Joy and I talked about this off the air today. I'm having two and three hour phone conversations with people, friends, in all sorts of businesses. Some people are panickers.

Other people are, here's an opportunity. I look at Adam Silver as a really smart, person. And I think smart people in general don't panic. They look at obstacles as opportunities. And I think the NBA needs to look at this and think, you know what? Maybe 70 games is better than 82. And maybe playing in the summer is better than going head to head with the NFL. Cuban addressed that. When I got into the league, I mean, I was like, why are we doing this? No one wants, you know, football dominates prior to Christmas. Why don't we start Christmas Day and then go.

into the summer, historically, the number of homes that are watching television during the summer declined significantly. But now with cord cutting, we're in a different universe. Now with the Corona world, we're in a different universe. And so depending on how long this goes and what happens and when we come back, if we come back, the viewership habits will be completely different. That creates opportunity for us to take chances and try different things. In my perfect world. You know, maybe we're playing, quote, unquote, summer league in August or September in October and then going right into the start of the season. Remember this too, is that the Olympics were in the summer, they get huge ratings. The World Cups in the summer in America

gets huge ratings. The NBA Summer League was Zion was getting big ratings. I mean, literally, he got big numbers. This idea that you can't broadcast. in the summer. It's different now. There's not as much competition on linear television. The only thing that gets a rating on TV anymore is really sports and politics. That is it.

So it's not as cluttered. Networks are now putting far more sports on TV. The ratings have been sensational for the NFL last year and college football. You know, it's if you can create urgency with sports, you come bursting out

of this, put sports on in the summer, again, don't be inflexible. I think that's what hurt baseball in my lifetime as a broadcaster more than anything. They've just been inflexible. Maybe it's the players and the umpire unions are too strong. The NFL always is willing to change on a dime. And I think it's what has made them. NBA is good at it too.

You've got to take some chances. NBA introduced the new basketball, didn't tell the players. They had a dress code. The NBA's always been willing to take chances. The NFL changes rules mid-season. Baseball tends to be much more about tradition, much more rigid, and I think it has hurt them in at least my media space.

So I think you have to think of everything, and I appreciate Mark Cuban stopping by to address that. Joe Bucks around the corner, Fox Sports Voice, Jason McIntyre, too, on a Friday. Hope you're tuning us in on all of our platforms. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. When you're buying a car, the process can be overwhelming.

Better way to do it, True Car. Compare models, buy options, discovering, to pricing, the reviews, get everything you need with True Car. Seven-time Emmy winner, three-time national sportscaster of the year, lead play-by-play guy, U.S. Open, World Series. NFL on Fox, Joe Buck, who has, he's calling him quarantine calls with Joe Buck. Fans are submitting videos on Twitter, and he does play-by-play for as long as they promise a pledge to a donation. of cause during the quarantine. How's that going, by the way, Joe? Well, Colin, at last check, the total number of views is approaching 7 million, which I just can't even get my head around because it was something that was started so innocently.

And if you had told me when I did my first one that, I don't know, 100,000 people somehow someway saw it, I would have freaked out. So I guess the lesson here, There's a couple of lessons. One, people are starved for anything that appears like first run programming or sports programming. Two, if you started kind of organically and you don't have grand plans going in, you can be surprised and probably do things that you didn't think or imaginable. And I think three is the lesson for me is the Internet, comma social media comma Twitter can actually be nice, which I didn't really realize was a possibility.

So I'm learning a lot during this quarantine. Yeah, it's funny. I had Mark Cuban on earlier, and Cuban's one of those guys. He's a problem solver. And I think if I had to identify people that I've always been attracted to or like, I like curious people who are optimistic and solve stuff. I'm not into mopers and the panickers. and, you know, sometimes I have no idea how this turns out, but we overcome stuff.

I do think there's a psychological concern for people jammed into an apartment with five or six kids. I do think sports plays a role. You're often the lead voice in that role. Where do you land on all that stuff? No, I agree with you. Totally. I think so many times, you know, we certainly, at least I don't, I don't assume that everybody's a sports fan. And I know that there are plenty out there.

that kind of turn their nose up at it and don't really get it or get into it. But I do believe that at times like this, when it's gone, you realize how big a part of American life sports really are. And even for the casual fan, heck, even for the non-fan, like passing through a room and knowing that a game is on, now that would seem so comforting. And it takes me back to 9-11. You know, my dad did this poem. the field at Bush Stadium when baseball resumed and it touched a lot of notes. I think it connected with a lot of

people that were watching either in the stadium or on television or on replays. It was all over Sports Center that night. Piazza hit a big home run for the Mets and it was like all of a sudden man, American life was kind of back and whether you're a baseball fan or not, it's just a part of

what we kind of do. And so when it's gone, it's like now what? And when people say to me, you know, how much do you miss calling games? I wouldn't be calling games right now anyway. I just miss it as a fan. I miss being able to flip on a blues game or an NBA game or whatever it may be. And now, you know, we're past where opening day would have been in Major League Baseball, which leaves a huge hole.

So I just know that when it starts to trickle back in and everything hits again, whether somebody's a sports fan or not, it will trigger and signify that life is getting back to normal, which we all hope comes sooner rather than later. Yeah, I mean, I said to Cuban earlier that what worries me about cable news, of which I work for a company that has Fox News, is sometimes journalism is treated as a commodity. It becomes very political. I'm for this guy. I'm supporting that guy. I'm attacking this guy. Sports in a world that's increasingly divided is really a uniter.

Everybody's got a favorite team. And my sister didn't like sports, and Russell Wilson arrives in Seattle, and she's got Russell Wilson beer mugs. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, you know, I'm like, like, wow, me and my sister, you know, we were five, six years different. She was out of high school by the time I was in it. It was a real connector for us. She would, Sunday, she's texting me and freaking out. And like you, I do think sports. Go back to 9-11, if you can. You talked about your father. Do you remember doing games right after 9-11, you personally? Absolutely. Well, yeah, I mean, I could do a seminar on that. I remember driving down to Bush Stadium from my home, and it was about a

15 minute drive. And I don't know how long the exact layoff was after 9-11. I think it was six days possibly. And we all went back down to the stadium. I remember driving down thinking, God, we're also vulnerable in this big stadium. You know, we had such different thoughts right on the on the backside of that tragic day. And I remember talking to my dad up at the press box level in Bush Stadium. And he was in the throes of Parkinson's and dietic. diabetes and he had a pacemaker and he was you know he wasn't that strong and he was an easy cry and when he would get emotional his Parkinson's would really kick in and I knew he was about to go down to the field hold a poem in his hand that he had written because he was so pissed off and deliver it on the microphone

to the stadium and on television and I said dad you can't do this and he said what are you talking about I said you're you're going to cry and he said I will not cry and I I said, dad, you're going to cry. And if you cry, it could get ugly. And he looked, grabbed me kind of by the chin. And he pointed in my face, and he said, I will not cry. And he said, I'll bet you $100. I don't cry.

And he went down there and delivered that poem. And of the two of us, I was the one that was crying. And he plowed through it. And he came up and stuck his handout to me like I was going to pay him $100. And I slapped his hand, like gave him a high five or a low five and just walked back into my booth. He walked into his booth. And we never talked about it again. So he died with me owing him $100.

Well, it's an amazing story and it's amazing relationship. You know, for guys my age, I grew up with Jack Buck and Vince Scully were baseball guys and then Monday night football. And then I get Joe Buck and work with him. You're a good dude. I will say this. You've done some Brady games. Primarily CBS does the Brady games, but you've done a handful through the years.

What was your kind of reaction to Tom Brady to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? It was kind of like Christmas for us, us at Box. I mean, to me, and you think about the bigger picture a lot more than I do, but somebody asked me this the other day. And I think it instantly added another team to the, national must watch list. The Buccaneers were not on that. Troy and Aaron and I have not done Buccaneers games, hardly at all.

We did one on the NFL network. I think week two last year, Carolina. And that's been about it for the last at least five years. We just haven't been there. And now you've got Brady with a loaded offense, with an engaging head coach, with a pretty good defense, that's at least, whether they win, loser draw watching Tom Brady is going to be fascinating in a Buccaneers uniform. It's a big loss for the ASC, certainly a big loss for the Patriots. I don't know where they go.

They still obviously have Velichick, so they'll still be good, and they'll still be a team that you're going to want to watch on a national level. But this is one of the mega superstars that we've had come along in sports over the last 20 years, maybe more, and now he's in Florida. So, I mean, the whole NFC South is, I think, a lot more dynamic because of that, because of Bridgewater, because of who the saints have added, because of the changes the Falcons have made. And where we've gone seemingly years where we do one or two NFC South games at the most, even when they end up in championship games, it's like, man, we've hardly seen the Panthers or, man, we've hardly seen the Falcons. And now I have a feeling we're going to be pointed to the southeast quite a bit in 2020 whenever we get back to work. A real conversation that we all have to have now.

LeBron discussed it yesterday, Mark Cuban on my show. Joe and I have talked about it is the reality of games with no fans. Now, NBA players have pushed back saying, you know, this game, it's really fan-driven. Take me to baseball. I did minor league baseball, so I often did games with 400 people in the stands. A's games a few years ago had about that. What would you make of baseball if they said, listen, we're back May 1st, a bridge season, and we're going to do the first month with no fans.

Does that work at all for you? Yeah, it does. I haven't thought about it, you know, with specific dates in mind. And I don't know, you know, our big boss is Eric Shanks, and I talked to him about it, I don't know, four or five days ago. And he doesn't really have a sense because nobody can give you any definitive answers as to when we're on the other side of this curve or when the numbers start to decrease or when the government starts opening up for business again and life starts to return to normal. So would I be for that? Absolutely. If it's if it's a way to kind of walk before you run and you keep the majority of people safe, great. I just, you know, there's some part of my brain that goes, if it's out there, this virus, and we're all going to be interacting somehow, some way going forward,

I feel like somehow we're all going to be exposed to this thing. And whether it's their fans in the stands, I mean, these players, so you're basically saying, okay, well, we're going to protect the fans, but now the players and the staff, the support staff, and everybody else going to be around these guys, and they're going to be in athletic play and sweating on each other and whatever and social distancing. I just, that seems to be a hard sell to me. But if that was deemed safe by medical experts, then great. Let's start it up somehow and then eventually get back to a world where fans are going

through the turnstiles. But, man, that seems like a reach to me. Yeah. Six World Series, excuse me, six Super Bowls, 22 World Series. Joe Buck. Beautiful family. Are you in St. Louis right now? We're in St. Louis.

Michelle, me, my. older daughters, Natalie and Trudy, 23 and 20, and our boys, Blake and Wyatt, who are approaching two years old. So we are trying, we are using every ounce of creativity we have ever thought we might have in trying to occupy these boys during the course of the day until nap time. When nap time hits, it's the biggest exhale. And then you've got to get from nap time to dinner. And then after dinner, you're basically scot-free because they're going to go to bed about an hour later. But those are our days. That and then me doing these videos sitting in my desk.

That's the extent of my life right now. Which is fine while people are, you know, fighting for life in hospitals and worried about this virus. You know, we're lucky, blessed so far, knock on wood, and we'll just see where all this goes from here. Thanks, buddy. All right, man. Anytime. Thank you. I'm here.

In fact, I can do 10, 12 segments if you want. I may lean on you by next Tuesday. Costis comes on Monday, I'm told. You may be Tuesday for 12 segments. Well, yeah. Costas will fill plenty. So you don't need me Monday. You might not need me the rest of the week.

There you go. Good talking to you. All right. See you. Good stuff. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. You remember, Colin, it wouldn't be completely unprecedented for them to play. obviously multiple games with no fans. But in 2015, the Orioles played that game with no fans in the stands because the city had a curfew. There was a lot of turmoil over the death of Freddie Gray. So they played that one game without any fans. Remember that? Now, that wasn't multiple games across, obviously, the entire league.

But they've done that before. I've joked about this, but you watch Marlin games and not many people in those stands. I've been to Marlon games with a lot of people in the stands. I watched an A's game years ago. I remember watching an A's game. They played the Mariners. They were both bad. There were 400 people in the stands.

Like, it's a baseball game. Yeah, I think of all the sports to play without fans, baseball would probably be the less of least affected by that. Basketball, I fully understand it. It's such an intimate game. The fans are right there on the board side. And it's also a game full of style and personality. And reaction.

Yes. I mean, basketball is stylistically. The fans are a big part of the, You know, I mean, just when Westbrook drives down the lane and scores, the momentum is turned and the fans are on the court. It feels like there's so much more necessary. Right. So when Tom Brady signed with Tampa Bay, the team marked the occasion by posting a hype video to Twitter with the caption, TBXTB. And now Brady and his agents have filed a U.S. trademark request for the phrase to be used on a variety of peril, presumably for the TB12 brand.

so it's TV by TV, which is very clever. You know, I probably came up in the conversations. You know, it gets a little apparel with this. And the TB12 website already has started selling Tampa-themed clothing. So he's already on top of it. Well, he's right now he's got nothing but time for business. Right. You know, the Bucks also used your report last week at Brady signing with the Bucks in their hype video.

They did? Well, somehow you always get put in hype videos. You know, you're America's media icon. Yes, that is well stated. Usually you're the doubter or the hater in the video, though this time it was positive. Yeah. They'll clip like one negative thing that you said about someone over the course of time. And then like you're like the poster child for the hater nation.

That's funny. So the Lakers were gearing up for the playoffs and the season got shut down, as we know. And even though LeBron is in his 17th season, he said the extra rest right now is actually a bad thing for him. My body was like, hey man, what the hell is going on? It's March 13. You're like, you getting ready for the playoffs. Why are you shutting down right now? And I was right here turning the corner.

Like, I felt like I was wrong in third base getting ready for the postseason. The narrative that I don't like, like, well, now guys get so much rest. Or like, LeBron, he's 35. He got so many minutes on his body. Now he gets so much rest. It's actually the opposite for me because my body, when we see, stop playing was asking me like, what the hell are you doing? This is part of the reason why the conversation is when, if when the season starts back

up, how many games do they play before you go into a postseason or do you go directly into the playoffs? Because you do need a few. How much, however much guys are working out and you know, LeBron may have a court at his house or whatever, it's not the same thing as being in basketball shape. And there's no way for them to get into, you know, rounding third base part of the season shape again after this time off. But you probably do need a few games to get back out there, get your wins back,

it gets just, you know, just get the feeling back before you go into the playoffs. How many they're going to be able to do, who knows. But especially for someone like LeBron who takes such pristine care of his body, I can understand where he's coming from with this. Well, yeah, I mean, it's really. really a tough call because I don't think we're already going to have a modified regular season. I don't think you want a modified regular season than a modified playoff system. Maybe that's, then it's too quirky and weird.

Do you, I mean, if you had 12 practices and everybody had three games, but you know, it's really what you don't want to do, you don't want to be, you don't want to be playing Labor Day weekend. You want it wrapped up, draft the next day, free agency for three days, You know, I keep going. I don't know why this date, June 1st. So what is it today? March, what, 26th? 27th.

So April, May. Nine weeks from now. I don't know why I get to that date. If you start June 1st, you're done August 1st because it takes about eight weeks for the playoffs. I don't know. However you can jam it in, because I don't think, I don't think the league wants to play games with no fans.

I think they may be forced to. but if it takes 10 practices and then three to four games, is that enough? Or even if they did, I mean, obviously practices would be closed to media and non-essential personnel. Although I don't think it would be terrible to open those. I'd be honest with you. I would televise practices. Oh, sure. Maybe they'll televise them, but I'm saying as far as limiting the amount of unnecessary people in there, that could be a way to do it.

But also, maybe you just do scrimmages with certain teams instead of playing out. games. So, you know, that could be an option too. I'm sure they'll look into everything. That's actually not a terrible idea. You go to one of the teams home, I mean, in Los Angeles, the state of California, you could have all your scrimmages at the Staples Center. So you've got the Warriors, you got, you know, Sacramento, Lakers, Clippers, Phoenix Suns fly over. Right. And they may have to do it where everyone is in. If there's not going to be any fans, then keep everybody in the same city. Wouldn't it be great? We watch Summer League, Joy. what if you took like six teams in the West, six in the East, and, you know, 15, 20 in the Midwest,

you play some Dallas, some Chicago, and you televise these joint practices. I mean, because the teams all own their own planes. Right. You fly in, you have joint practices, and you televise it. And you televise it all late, May, early June, and June 10th, you kick it off into the playoffs. Yeah. You've got to think about anything. Yeah, I'm sure they'll explore all of it.

So Byron Jones chose to sign with the Dolphins in Free Agency. and during his inductory presser yesterday, he gave some insight into why he chose Miami. What really brought me to Miami was the idea of joining a young team and being a leader on that team, being a catalyst for cultural change and helping this team win. They got a bunch of balls on that roster,

and really with the prospect of drafting, a lot of dope players, and we've also bought a bunch of different free agents across the league. I wanted to be a part of the building of something special. I am so excited for the draft for the Dolphins, because they have so many picks. And I do think they're going to make a big trade up and try and get to it. And, you know, I'm still holding out hope until the very last second that they give some incredible haul for Joe Burrow.

But they're going to be a very interesting team in this draft because of the draft equity that they have. And they also, so aside from Byron Jones, they also have Xavier Howard. So they have the second and third highest paid corners and average salary in the league. Brian Flores is a former patriot. what's the one position Belichick has always paid for? Corners. So Brian Flores,

just like Belichick, create a culture, finish strong in your first season, accumulate draft picks, and then free agency, pay for corners. Stefan Gilmore was a bill. Belichick went and got him,

paid him a fortune to be a paid. Bill doesn't pay a lot of people. He's always been big on corners. Brought in Revis. It's very similar style. Yep. No, I think Brian Flores, there are early indications

of all the Belichick assistant, it's going to work. There's a lot of indications. I like their free agent class. And they had to have cap space. They got a lot of draft picks, and they're going to get a quarterback. Good stuff. Joy with the news.

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We know that areas where people are closer and together and you have higher population density, you have increased problems. So that's some good news. Good to have you in. Jason McIntyre started the big lead left. Now he's at Fox Sports. Fox Sports. Fox Sports Radio. We have him on Fridays. We call it tomorrow's headlines today. First of all,

J. Mack, how are you? I'm excellent. How are you, Colin? I know we've spoken, but I haven't physically seen you. How are you holding up? Well, it's Manhattan Beach. I got a backyard in a pool, and I'm grilling every night, and I'm trying to get as much sun as I can, and I'm hanging in there. You've got young kids, so, you know, I'm getting, I knock on wood. I feel very fortunate with my circumstances. I do think if I had five kids all under the age of 10 and I was in a small apartment, I would really think it would be problematic. I have great sympathy for people that don't have a backyard or some space, right? I will say, yeah, the biggest takeaway my wife and I have had is that teachers are vastly underpaid. Colin, we have a third and a first grader and the amount

of work they have to do and we have to supervise and the questions they have, it's a lot. So teachers, you know, definitely shout out to all of them. They deserve. of a lot more money and every dad I've spoken with concurs that, man, this ain't easy. All right. Tomorrow's headlines today, McIntyre was a newspaper guy and he'd have to drum up those headlines the night before. So let's start with this. What team will Cam Newton sign with tomorrow's headlines today?

Well, Colin, nobody wants to invest big money in Cam Newton right now, right? They don't know if he's healthy. I don't care that he's past the physical. He's had two surgeries on his throwing shoulder. in two of the last three off seasons. The headline will be Superman to fly with the Eagles. Colin, I know it's a bit of a surprise, but Cam Newton to the Eagles makes all the sense in the world

because of number one, I mean, Carson Wentz can't stay healthy. How many times have we talked about it on your show? Injured in college comes into the league, three of his four seasons with the Eagles. Carson Wentz has gone down. Last year we got hurt in the playoff game, and they finally have a good backup with Nick Fould's now gone if they bring Cam Newton into the fold.

And if, you know, the Cam Newton fans out there who say this is disrespectful, Colin, I put this all together, okay? Right now Cam goes and holds a clipboard behind Carson Went, six games, eight, 16, whatever, proves that he could say healthy, first of all. Right now the market is soft for him. There are only a couple teams. Look at 2021, okay? You've got guys like Josh Allen in a big prove-it year, your buddy, Baker Mayfield, Philip Rivers and Indy, Big Ben.

We don't know how healthy he'll be in Pittsburgh. I think the market for Cam will be more robust in 2021. If Cam were to go to the Eagles, I think that would be a smart move. And remember, Doug Peterson took one backup to a Super Bowl crown. I think Cam would get a shot in Philadelphia. That's actually really smart. I had never thought about that. That makes a ton of sense.

Okay, tomorrow's headlines today. What team will James Winston sign with? I feel a little bad for James Winston, right? There's nobody showing interest in him at all. I think there's some value in this guy. The headline will be. James makes a pit stop, much like Cam Newton going to the Eagles.

I think James Winston would be perfect behind Ben Rothesberger in Pittsburgh. Okay, Rathfiger's 38. I'm sure you've seen the images of him this week. I mean, he looks like he's been on a mountain retreat for six months with that beard. He looked a little heavy and overweight. We know he was injured last year, missed the whole season. But, Colin, this Steelers team latcher, the defense is so good. It kept them in games.

If not for, you know, Chuck Hodges and Mason Rudolph being just abysmal at quarterback, the Steelers would have been in the playoffs. And by the way, if the seven playoff team format were in place last, year, the Steelers would have got in. I think James Winston sits for a year behind Ben Rafflesberger. If they need him in there, listen, Ju-Ju-J-Jose Schuster, they've got some weapons. I think, again, James Winston, just humble yourself for a year. You know, Mike Tomlin, a coach who's won a Super Bowl, Ben Rufflesberger vet.

I think James learns a little bit. And again, 2021, he's got a much better market. Again, I think this is really smart. Tomorrow's headlines today, how will the Bucks do with Tom Brady? All right, Colin, I know that you're bullish on this. I've taken some heat on social media for my prediction. The headline on Tom Brady in Tampa, shipwreck. I do not believe this is going to go well in Tampa.

Now, I want to just start out by saying I am a big fan of Tom Brady. I think if he had gone elsewhere, he would have a shot legitimately at the Super Bowl. I don't think Tampa's that spot. I want to start you out with this, Colin, right off the top. Everybody's talking about, oh, the Tampa is. defense is good. They can help Tom. That's just not true. We've seen defenses, Colin, fall off year after year. The Jacksonville Jaguars were awesome. Number one defense, went to the AFC title game, fell off the map. Chicago Bears, number one defense fell off the

map. So everybody's telling you the Buck's defense was fifth in the league, the year before that, they were 32. So if Tom doesn't get help from the defense, remember, the Patriots defense was number one against the past last year. Tom's going to have to carry an offense, and I'm telling you, Colin, at 43, a guy who did not play well in the red zone last year, one of the least efficient red zone quarterbacks. I like Mike Evans. I like O.J. Howard. But the Bruce Aryan system demands that the quarterback drop back, take your time, wait for the bomb, and hit Godwin deep. Brady, we know this. He led the league in throwaways last year, Colin. He cannot scramble. I just don't see it go well for Brady and Tampa. I really wish he had gone to the Chargers or even the Colts.

I think shipwreck bucks missed the playoffs with Tom Brady. Three minutes left. Here we go. Tomorrow's headlines today. How will the Patriots do without Tom Brady? I'll tighten this one up, Colin. I'm a believer in Belichick. The headline will be where there's a bill. I believe Bill Belichick and his ego will get Joe. We'll get They're at Stittam at quarterback, and the Patriots will win 10 games and get to the playoffs. Just a quick reminder. Okay, you know Stim, you follow recruiting. This is a highly recruited kid out of high school.

He threw for 7,000 yards in college. He can play. Okay, Tom Brady came out, came into the pros with a lot of acclaim from Michigan. And when thrust in, did well. Belichick has had Stimim in the system for a year. I think he comes in and they do well. Matt Castle, USC kid. When he had to fill in for Rady, he won 11 games.

I think Stidham can win 10 and get the Patriots to the playoffs. They do have the NFL's toughest schedule. We had on Jordan Palmer earlier this week, the quarterback guru, brother of Carson. He said Stidham, all the analytics, spin rate, so and forth, so forth. He said, Jared Stidham will have an elite top five or six arm in the NFL day one. Ooh. Yeah. A defense.

You know the defense is coming back nearly intact. I think they lost Van Neu and a couple other guys, but they'll be very good. Again, they play the dolphins twice, the bills twice and the jets twice. My jets. Oh, my jet. All right, buddy, Jason McIntyre. Good talking to you. Thanks.

Good talking to you tomorrow's headlines today. Health concerns for all of us, elite testosterone and immune support. Go to MDriveforMen.com. The code is heard. Get 20% off. You know, this is why sportscasting is fun and sports radio is fun. he thinks, and he makes points. Bruce Aryan's system is demanding on the deep ball.

It's also, it should be noted, your quarterbacks, you're going to face Drew Breeze twice, Matt Ryan twice, and Teddy Bridgewater twice. That's six games against grown-ups. Tom really carved up, you know, 19 different average quarterbacks over the last seven years and about 10 coaches. So you're going to get much better coaching in that,

division, a lot more stability in that division. I actually think, you know, it's funny. Carolina, I'd probably pick for four right now, but I love their receivers. I love Christian McCaffrey. I really like Teddy Bridgewater and Matt Ruhle. They have to rebuild their defense a little bit, but go get Isaiah Simmons along with Shaq Thompson. You got real linebackers. Don't count out Carolina from being very interesting. Matt Ruhl from Baylor, how anybody turned that program around, I'm not sure anybody else could have, including Nick Sabin. It was a, mess. All right, Joy Taylor, thank you. Thank you. Have a great weekend.

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