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Episode Date: June 10, 2025C&R talk Thunder showing up big in Game 2! Shaq says he's not going to be watching! Does the NBA deserve more from him? The guys debate! Plus, a bubble, Tires & a Pete Alonso squabble! Follow ...C&R on their Apple Podcast page: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/covino-rich/id1212071900See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey, welcome to the show.
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How's your weekend?
I was on the East Coast.
It's good to be back in L.A.
Even though it was a crazy weekend.
But if you live here, you don't even know what happened.
Well, that's the thing.
The news shows you one thing.
And the reality is not a lie.
It's just it's not all of California.
that's the point. But hope you had a nice weekend. I had a nice time on the East Coast. It's good to be back here on the West Side. And amongst my travels, of course I watched some NBA. Did Shaquille O'Neal? We'll get to that. First, I want to say that OKC played like OKC. SGA played like SGA. The Thunder dominated the second game. It's all tied at one. And,
Now it's starting to look.
And again, we're very fickle fans, right?
Wherever the wind blows, that's where we are.
Right now it seems like, oh, okay.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's the OKC we thought.
Now it looks like they're going to win it all, but who knows?
Well, now I'm keeping it on.
My interest is Jay Z going to win his million dollar bet.
Right, right.
OKC in five.
He needs a clean sweep now.
And, you know, a lot of people around here, a lot of people around everywhere thought
that it might be a four to five game series.
so could OKC just dominate from this point on?
And game three is Wednesday.
I feel like the NBA finals also very spread out.
I get it.
We're finally here.
But like you said, the momentum of like,
oh, when's another game on?
Wednesday?
Wednesday.
Yeah, you got your Stanley Cup final tonight, game three.
But you got to wait until Wednesday, your hump night,
for the NBA to continue.
And you're not alone in that feeling, Rich.
I'm with you on that.
I imagine any.
sort of basketball fan, any casual fan,
definitely must feel like, well, they're really
dragging this out, aren't they? It feels
that way. So, got to wait
until Wednesday there, but I
was watching, you were
probably watching while grilling up
and enjoying your weekend. You probably
tuned in here and there.
It's been a fun
battle so far. It's all tied at one,
even though OKC seemed to
dominate game two. But here's
the thing. You know who's not watching?
Your boy, Shaquille O'Neal.
he is my boy.
When I was a kid,
I wasn't there,
but I'll never,
you just made me think of this.
He was so popular coming out of
LSU and LSU.
I think he was still,
yeah,
he was still in college.
I don't think he was even on the magic yet.
And I remember he stopped by a store in my hometown.
It was the talk of the town that Shaquille O'Neill was there
because just larger than life.
How did Shaq end up in Union, New Jersey?
Honestly,
I have no idea, but I remember when, maybe he went to that, what is it, the bowling alley strip club combo that was there?
No, it was the union marketplace he stopped at.
And that no longer exists, but it was one of those old school marketplace, indoor marketplace with a million different shops.
And Shaquille O'Neal stopped by there.
It was the talk of the town.
But, you know, forever we heard about this legendary guy.
I've been hearing about this kid since I was in junior high.
That's my point.
This is junior high.
Shaquille O'Neal, man, larger than life.
And he is.
He's one of our heroes.
And when you have heroes like Shaquille O'Neal, guys you grew up admiring,
you have expectations or you have this thought of them.
And what if I were to tell you that Shaquille O'Neal, one of your heroes,
a guy that gets paid a lot of money to represent the NBA and analyze the NBA and sort of
still be one of the faces of the MBA.
What if I told you that you're watching the finals, but he's not?
Yeah, he said that I'm going to be in the Bahamas.
I'll not watch.
And everybody said to him, well, there's still TVs in the Bahamas.
You could still watch the Bahamas.
And I thought the response was going to be, well, hey, man, when I'm on vacation, I tune out,
which is sometimes understandable if you're not making millions of dollars to do that, right?
if you're a regular dude and you're an accountant and the boss is like,
hey, man, I was hitting you up or I expect you to still be tuned in to the TPS reports
coming in, you could tell that boss respectfully, hey, I'm on vacation, man.
On the beach.
I'm tuning out.
That's what I do on vacation.
I get it.
But when you're Shaquille O'Neal, and that's your job and you're paid nicely to do that job,
that's another story.
So Shaq's response was something along those lines, but it was.
No, it's.
It was, yeah, but you can't watch the games when you're.
in the ocean. They said, I don't know if he's swimming or if he's on a yacht. They said NBA TV is also
on in the Bahamas, you know, and he said, not in the ocean. Not in the ocean. And, you know,
it poses the bigger question, not for Shaquille and Neil, but for everyone, every fan. When you're
on vacation, is watching sports fair game? Yes. Like if you and the wife, you love, here's why.
And I also, it's not asking someone to watch a boring, like, documentary about something you don't care
about, you're asking them to do something that you like to do.
So, of course, even when I'm on vacation, I'm tuned in because that's something I like.
Why wouldn't I want to watch?
It's only, I don't need a vacation from watching fun stuff.
It's only a vacation from you.
It's only a limited time a game is on, meaning, listen, if you're in the Bahamas right
now, if you're in Aruba, Jamaica, or any place, a Beach Boy song is about, and you're an NBA
fan, is it really cramping your vacation if for two hours and 15,000?
15 minutes, you're like, can we watch game one, two, or three?
Like, here's the thing.
I always said the funny.
Like, my wife and I will go on vacation and you're walking through the lobby at night.
Sometimes you sit down, you watch a little of a game.
I don't find that to be what I need to escape from.
Well, you think I'm going to bash on Shaq.
I'm really not.
I'm just setting up the story.
Although you can easily say, yeah, but he gets paid millions and millions and millions and billions of dollars to do this.
so he should be watching.
But sometimes even if you do fun stuff for work,
you still need a break from it.
So, yeah, basketball is his life, it's his career,
and that would be a dream job for anybody.
But for him, that's still his job.
And that's what I'm sort of explaining.
Now you could say, yeah, but he gets paid a lot.
And I get that too, and I get that side of the argument.
When I started off in radio, Danny G could attest to this,
because I believe he lived that same life.
but in the world of hip hop.
I came into radio in rock radio, strictly rock radio,
and it was going to live concerts five out of seven days a week
and broadcasting from this venue and broadcasting from that venue.
And every night you're the first one there.
When you work in promotions, too, starting out,
you're the first one there, last one to leave.
You're setting up broadcast, broadcast booth.
You're driving the van there.
It's an all day thing.
You're hanging banners.
Dude.
And then you're taking it all down in,
breaking down all the gear after everybody's long gone. The engineering equipment. You've said it.
Banners have to be everywhere. You have to make your presence fell as the local radio station.
And you're thinking, man, but what a great gig for a young guy starting out who loves to do that stuff.
When you do that for years, and I did concert after concert after concert after concert,
the stuff that was really fun to you and the reason why you got involved in the first place begins to feel like work.
And I have to tell you, when I stopped living that side of things, I didn't go to a concert for a good.
It felt like 10, 15 years.
Maybe one here and there.
But I was not going to concerts because to me it reminded me of work and it felt like work.
So what was once fun felt like work, even though I loved it.
Everything that's fun to someone is work to someone else.
Right.
So you have to imagine, no one loves basketball more than Shaq.
But watching the game, calling a game, analyzing the game, having to formulate an opinion on a
the game that begins to feel like work after a while.
I mean, it's true.
I mean, going to a sporting event or a concert to some would be like, how is that ever work?
However, I never got paid millions and millions of dollars.
But you know what?
Everything that you would think, how could this even be considered work?
I guarantee there's a male adult film star out there that's like, I gotta go to work today.
What's the scene?
It's me and three women.
Oh, man.
This chops for the birds.
Man, I got to go to work.
Yeah, do wait.
What's your job?
job again? Yeah, no, again, it's an orgy. Me and like four chicks. Yeah, but it's work, man.
For someone, that is work. The same way you might say, wait, you're backstage at the Morgan
Walling concert. Wait, you get, you get to, you're working backstage on the Erez tour with Taylor Swift,
where every young woman on planet Earth pays thousands? No, to someone that's work. So to Shaquille O'Neal,
it's perhaps checking out. And he can't even, he doesn't want to give two hours. Right.
Everywhere he goes, he's Shaquille O'Neal.
People want to talk about him, basketball, finals.
So, hey, maybe in the ocean.
He has to go into the middle of the ocean.
Drinking a calic, man.
He might need to escape that.
The only side to this argument that I see against Shaq is,
hey, dude, come on.
You're getting paid millions of dollars to do what people do for free for fun.
millions, the millions of dollars
that you would think
would require him
to be tuned in at all times because people
value his opinion that much.
That's the thing. That's the only flip side
to the argument. I know Danny G. He feels that way too.
My flip side. But you get paid millions.
My flip side isn't even about the money. My flip side
is
how are you supposed to be interested in the NBA
when one of the ambassadors of the game
so easily is like, yeah,
I don't even want to watch. That's a good point.
This is the guy that's supposed to be hyping you up.
Shaquille O'Neal, Barclay, Ernie.
All these guys are moving to ESPN, right?
They're all, this is, these are the faces of NBA broadcasting.
And I do believe that's part of his job.
Yeah, you want him to be honest.
But as a broadcaster who talks sports, I feel like it's even our job to hype up what's going on.
I'm not a big hockey fan, but yo, game three tonight, just gives you something to be hyped up about.
That's a great point.
Think of another sport.
If Shaq is the guy saying, hey, I'm not even watching.
I'm not even watching that.
That sort of like puts a damper on.
Well, why am I watching?
And this was your guys' argument at the beginning of this NBA season
when everybody was down on the league and talking about the ratings being so low.
And there were guys like Chuck coming out, you know, slandering his favorite sport, remember?
And you said, hey, you're supposed to be one of the faces of the league.
Yeah, you got to be the hype guy if this is the league that's responsible for all that money
and that lifestyle you're living.
So there's a bunch of ways to look at it.
We just want to give you all of them.
And if you just joined us, Shaq said he's not watching the NBA finals because he's going to be in the Bahamas and he's going to be in the ocean.
I imagine in the water is what he meant on a raft the whole time.
Somewhere on a yacht, perhaps.
And I don't blame him.
I love the Bahamas, man.
But your thoughts on that.
Do you expect him to be watching?
You know what I felt this way as a kid?
I felt this way about Derek Jeter.
Derek Jeter as much as I admired him and still do.
one of my heroes
they always said the biggest disconnect
between Jeter and Arod
because there was a lot of
conflict there and drama
and competition is that
Arod lived for baseball
I mean he went great lengths to stay competitive
right he did anything possible to win
to his own detriment
but when he was not playing
he was a student of the game
like he was a nerd about it
like everything was baseball
always watching baseball always talking
baseball, everything baseball, baseball, baseball, baseball.
And Jeter sort of tuned
out of baseball when baseball wasn't on.
You've heard him say, you know, I haven't picked up a bat since I retired.
When Aeron is still like that guy.
Aero's probably still working on a swing.
Right. And when I heard that from Jeter, it sort of run me a weird way because I'm like,
damn, I imagine that Jeter was just baseball all the time, but he really wasn't.
Well, that's the difference between you and I behind the scenes.
Yeah.
Well, you know, you're also living a different life.
you have a five-year-old and a seven-year-old.
You know, my sole focus has to do with radio and parenting a teen.
But when you're a parent of a teen, they don't need your parenting as much as a five- and a seven-year-old.
Well, speaking of A-Rod, did you see what A-Rod said the other day?
You bring up dad life.
But it seemed to me, hold on, that my hero, Jeter, didn't seem to watch and enjoy baseball
as much as I did the fan.
It's like he played it, but that's where it ended.
But that would be like when baseball shifts to the, like,
like NL and it's on TBS.
Jeter's saying,
wait, I'm not bro about working.
I'm not watching.
Yeah, exactly.
But now he's paid to watch and paid to be an analyst.
But back in the day, they said that was the disconnect between those two.
So it's like when you hear the stuff about heroes and people you admire,
it's like, uh-huh, really, Shaq?
You're not watching.
You watch this whole season.
You're not watching the NBA finals?
How'd expect me to?
How do you expect me to?
How do you expect the casual fan to watch of Shaquille O'Neal.
But I think I made a solid point.
Like, for him, it's work, though, guys.
And everybody needs.
a break, even if it's stuff you love.
You think you made a solid point? I'll be the judge of that.
Okay, you did.
No one's going to, there's no one out there that's going to say they love basketball more than Shaq.
Get out of my face. The guy revolves his whole life around it and built his whole life around it.
Now, Shaq is an analyst, former player.
How do you feel about current players who say once their team's eliminated, it's like too
painful to watch?
More understandable.
Like when there are guys that, you see it in football a lot, Danny G.
There's guys like, yeah, I ain't watching the Super Bowl.
there are guys on the Ravens and you know teams that make it to the aFC championship
Josh Allen there were guys that said yeah I just I'm out watching yeah that I get because
the wound is fresh you know what though Danny what I do respect is the honesty
even though I'm shocked to hear that because he's paid to watch these games or you expect
him to watch it it's one of those like coming of age realities you're like what
check you're not watching the finals it's like when I met Joe Montana he's like I really
don't like the Niners I was a Steelers fan I'm like what wait hold on yeah you're really
in our childhood feelings here a little bit.
Rich and I, we've interviewed a lot of athletes
along the way, which is also
something you can throw in this conversation.
Never at a time did you think you'd be like,
oh, I have to interview a star?
Yeah, which is when you do things.
For a lot of people. For a job, it becomes work.
It becomes old hat.
Brett Farve's old hat. It becomes old hat
after a while.
But I remember the realization
of talking to certain
players, and they didn't know
all the players on their own team.
That was a big shocker for me.
I'm like, wait a second.
I know all the players on your team.
How do you not know?
But it makes sense.
When you're in the game and you're worried about yourself
and you're still trying to maintain a career and stay on the team,
a lot of these dudes are in and out of the league and in and out of your team.
It's hard for some of the veterans to know somebody's young guys all the time that are in and out.
But that was a realization for me.
I'll give you a other one of your realizations talking about being in it.
This all revolves around Shaq saying,
I'm not watching the NBA finals.
And you'd imagine why on earth would Shaquillo and the all,
not just tune in, but he's like, no, I'm in the ocean.
I'm going to be doing the backstroke.
I remember we had.
I'm doing a cannonballs.
Carrying open up.
Belly flops.
We had someone on our show once, and you're going to fill in the blank form.
They're going to go with Scuba Shack.
Scuba Shack.
I remember, you're going to fill in the blank because you'll remember.
We had a rock band on our show,
and I'm trying to remember who it was.
but Kavino started shouting out their track listing.
And like, yeah, I don't even remember that.
It was Stone Temple Pilots, actually.
Yeah, it was STP, not to name drop, but I was calling out there.
Oh, no, no, no, no, dude, it was third eye blind.
It was Stephen Jenkins.
I knew his track listing and he didn't.
Yeah, that song came and then this one.
He's like, you remember the order of my CD?
I don't.
Yes, it was that.
I had a similar discussion with STP, which was a cooler band to drop.
But third eyeline who I did like in college for sure.
I mean, semi-charm life is on every 90s mix.
Track five was graduate or I'm just making that up now.
It's been so long, but it probably still is spot.
Give me a fact check.
Graduate track five, five or six.
And he looked at you and he's like, I don't know.
I don't even know.
I'm like, yeah, man, it was started with jumper and semi-charmed life.
And he was like, dude, I don't even know that.
I'm like, you're in the band.
How do you not know your track listing?
It's one of those reality checks.
Shack is not watching the finals.
I was right?
Graduate.
Track five.
Yeah.
Spotty.
Way to be on that.
But yeah, just a reminder.
Do you lose respect or do you understand?
I get it.
I kind of understand.
I get it because other things take over in life.
And by the way, I brought up A-Rod before I said he's living that dad life like you.
You're not here yet, but I saw a whole article about A-Rod, how his daughter, I believe, Vivian's 20.
For the record, Kavino here.
My daughter is 16 in November.
So it's a whole different ballgame.
He said he's at the dad's stage of life now where hanging out with his kid is by appointment and he gets really stoked when she's like, Dad, you want to me for coffee?
And he's like, I get all fired up.
Like Aaron's like you get to the stage where your daughter, you only hang with her when it's like an appointment.
Like, dad, you want to go meet?
And he's like, he gets all pumped.
Yeah, right now I'm at the stage where I'm her personal chauffeur.
So I still see her.
You're right.
Oh, you're living.
You're Uber, Steve.
Uber Steve.
Yeah, you know, very much still a huge part of her life.
But they start doing their own thing, their own friends, their own world, their own teams, and whatever they're involved in.
So again, your thoughts about you're all glued to the finals.
You realize it's tied at one, but Shaq's not watching.
Boo for Shaq.
It's not creating the illusion we all want, right?
Right, right, right.
So again, you know, it's just something to think about your thoughts.
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you know what it's like too rich
one last personal one
I've been playing rock
music for over 20 years on
Sirius XM every night
and there'll be a big festival
or big concert coming up and the fans are
so pumped about man bro are you
going? They're like no I'm not
going. Wait wait a way what? How are
you not going? But you're the guy. Yeah you're the
dude and meanwhile you know they're so
pumped to even have an opportunity to buy a
ticket and you're like but wait you're not going to be there and I'm like nah you know
I got a life to live I used to feel that way about that's really shack just living his life
I used to feel that way about you when we lived in New York and Kavino's the guy that watches
162 Yankee games and I remember there would be times we'd be living on the East Coast
and it'd be like yeah you go on the playoff game you're like nah like but you're the guy
that watches it just happens when you're spoiled Yankee fan that's all yeah every year's a
playoff here that's all right well listen we got more Kavino and Rich coming up we are
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Yeah, it's called the Scataboo scene.
Yeah.
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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers...
This is how you...
You guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say,
Hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen.
We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy,
not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends.
and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Last night, a blown call changed a game.
This morning, the internet lost its mind.
Highlights are trending.
opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.
That's where Sports Slice comes in.
I'm Timbo.
Every episode, we're cutting through the noise,
breaking down the plays, the controversies,
and the stories behind the headlines.
We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves,
their locker room stories, their reactions,
the stuff nobody gets to hear.
The laughs, the drama, the triumphs,
the moments that never make the highlight real.
From viral moments to historic games,
from buzzer beaters to controversial calls,
we break it down,
give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered.
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Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect.
We were God's chosen kingdom on earth.
He felt destined for greatness.
So when a swaggering Armenian business.
man catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world.
He doesn't look back.
Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey.
I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across.
When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud.
But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive?
The largest tax investigation in American history.
You need to tell me what you know.
Is somebody coming after me?
Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life.
Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis.
And I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.
every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay.
Jen, she won.
I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lena Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now,
and I actually can win on any surface.
Because if she's serving, well, good luck.
Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts.
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
Jay-Z crossing his fingers.
That OKC keeps rolling.
He's got Thunder and Five for a million dollars.
Pays out, I think, 2.5 mil.
Well, Jay-Z's going to have to wait until Wednesday.
That is weak.
Really dragging it out.
Long stints in between the games and the NBA finals, for real.
But I'm not complaining.
Just explaining.
I mean, I'm complaining a little bit.
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Danny G. on the phones at 87799 on Fox.
He's super producing, and he's getting Mike Tyson ready for some trivia later on.
I saw Mike making his way in earlier.
Dan Byers got your updates in a few minutes.
And again, all our videos at Covino and Rich
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The more I think about it, Rich,
my first and initial reaction hearing that Shaq isn't watching the NBA finals
is weak.
All that money he's paid, he's not watching.
But when does a guy like Shaq ever get to not be Shaq?
When does he get a break?
That is true.
You can say in the off season or whatever, but
I mean, he's always Shaq.
When do you get the chance to rest?
You know, Rich and I do so much radio.
It's not that we need a break,
but we need a chance to live life
so that we have stories to talk about.
Yeah, right?
You still got to live a little life sometimes.
Because where are you going to get stories and experiences from?
If you don't dip away and step away.
Right.
You know, we have fun every day.
Shack has a great life,
but he has to live that life
so that he could have some content and perspective
and other things to talk about.
No doubt.
So not that mad at him.
Anyway, I hope you had a great weekend.
It's good to be back.
Let's get to some phone calls and move on.
Let's say how to Paul and Rhode Island.
Paul, what's up, man?
Kavino and Rich.
Listen, I don't know what you think about, Jack,
but I think that Indiana is going to take this.
And I also think that I think that Edmonton is going to take this.
What was your first instinct, though?
Was your first instinct Indiana?
Always?
Yeah, my boss in Shamrock, I think that you deserve to go further.
Well, they didn't.
The Knicks did.
Your knucklehead?
Well, see, I was about to say, your first instinct's usually right.
And that's not always the case, but usually, like, I had an instinct.
Rich, you had an instinct.
Most of us had an instinct that OKC was so dominant the whole season that they're probably
going to have their way.
And then you saw game one.
You're like, oh, maybe not.
But then you saw a game two.
You're like, yeah, that's, that's what I picked the Pacers before the series.
started. Was that your first instinct? It was,
it was, just because they were on a role
and I feel like they match up okay.
Let me ask you, though. Okay, see.
Yeah, enough to win. When Moncey,
who works here at Fox Sports Ready,
when she went around and asked all the employees, like,
all right, give me your prediction. Do
most people say what they think
or are they trying to pick like a cool, daring
pick? Like, I said OKC and 6,
and I felt so lame about that, because that feels
to me like the obvious answer.
No, I mean, this wasn't Laker Celtics,
so I don't think anybody was like, you know, trying to impress her on the camera.
I think people really were picking who they felt, you know, was going to win.
Richard was trying to impress her.
I was flexing a little bit.
By the way, I should mention because Tony and Oregon called up and he's like,
I'm just curious because the T&T crew signed off.
So where did Shaq and Kenny Smith say this?
They were contracted to do pre and post game for NBA TV.
So that's where this conversation took place.
Gotcha.
And Ernie made it clear that NBA TV is.
on in the Bahamas, but Shaq also made
like, yeah, I mean, I'm going to be in the water, bro.
I'm not worried about that right now.
And it sounds a little weird
because of Shaq and he's supposed to be watching.
Well, hey, sometimes it's okay to be mentally checked out.
Now, I have a story and it sort of ties together
with a few things going on
in the world of sports and entertainment.
It has to do with just missing something along the way.
Or just, you know, being so in your zone.
That's like, not that you got your head,
buried in the sand. Your own bubble.
But sometimes you're in your own little bubble.
Well, you don't know what else
is going on. Now, you said before
Kavino, you grew up
in the world of rock radio.
If you grew up in the world of sports,
and if you're so in your little zone,
sometimes you miss huge
things that are just outside.
You guessed it, you're a bubble.
Maybe you're so committed and
dedicated to what you do. You don't see anything
else. You don't care about anything else.
That might be the reason.
Like sometimes people don't even know the current biggest songs in the country because they're so in a zone of other things or their lane.
Yeah, I get it.
I remember one of the moms on my kids baseball team, we put her in charge of the kids walk up music one day.
And she was like, Danny G.
I'm talking like the biggest songs in the country that the kids wanted to walk up to.
She's like, what's that song?
And I'm like, how do you, how do you not know that's like your mom?
You're living.
What are we doing?
Yeah.
This is like you not knowing about downtown L.A.
Yeah, I didn't realize downtown L.A. was in disarray until late last night.
We were in a group text last night.
One of our buddies says, hey, is it time to move out of L.A. or what?
And he sent some imagery from the protests.
And Rich was like, what?
What's going on?
Why?
Because of the high taxes, he says, high taxes?
I was like, what are you talking about?
No, the protests and the violence that's going on right now that they're showing on the news.
What, like five years ago?
Black Lives Matter?
Yeah.
No, he's like, no, now.
It's not that you just missed it yesterday.
You missed it for three whole days.
And Rich is in L.A.
I was on the East Coast flying.
And I knew about, again,
what was supposed to be peaceful protest.
And it wasn't as bad as the news made it out to seem,
but still was pretty bad.
For that portion of the 101 freeway, right?
And parts of Compton, I guess.
But like, there's other parts of Southern California
where you could be like Rich,
and you didn't even know anything was going,
on. But for a lot of people outside of Cali, like a friend of mine in Nashville, he texted me,
are you guys safe? When are you going to be moving out of California?
Like, bro, not all of us are on fire here.
This arises when we had the fires, too, remember?
Everybody thought all our houses were on fire.
How in the world, though, could Rich live three days in Los Angeles with all these other
parents and people he was dealing with throughout the weekend and Little League?
No one brought up the protest to Rich at all.
Not once?
Not once on his phone when he's looking at all this mindless stupidity on social media.
I try not to see this.
I try not to scroll.
Your algorithm must be that of a little baby boy.
Also makes me feel like you don't watch regular TV at all.
I don't.
I don't really watch TV.
But some people, he missed.
I stream things, right?
I mean, do you watch TV?
What are you 80?
If Rich can miss the protest in the city that he lives in for three days.
No, it's called Dodger baseball.
We have Spectrum TV and you have to turn the channels to get there.
It's not impossible.
And that is why I have to bootleg the next Dodgers games for those three days a year because I have MLB app I pay for.
Obviously, Rich doesn't do it, but do you other guys ever feel like you just need to check in with the news at all?
Like I do like, I may not watch the news, the 6 o'clock news every night or the 11 o'clock.
But if I've gone four days without watching, like the fifth day I'll be like, all right, at least I want to see what the top stories are or what's going on.
Like I feel I need to check in.
I do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You nailed it.
That's exactly the-
I guess during the week,
I do that every day,
right, prepping for all the shows
and things we do.
But on the weekend,
I was live news, though.
No, I've never watching news.
Yeah, I mean,
I do exactly what Dan just did.
I'll throw on all, whatever.
Yeah.
It's not just CNN,
it's not just Fox.
And I also like the feeling of something live.
Like,
what are they talking about right now?
Right?
Absolutely.
That's it.
I watch Pete Alonzo
crush the Rocky single-handling.
I watch the Mets all weekend.
I watched the NBA finals.
I had a barbecue and a pool party at my house for my kids.
You were pulling the Shaquille O'Neal.
I was coaching games.
Hold on.
You were living life.
I was in the pool.
I was living life.
I was living life.
You were just living life.
So sometimes you miss things.
So hard, you missed three days of it.
That's living some pretty hard life right there.
But meanwhile, he showed me like three dumb videos that he saw over the weekend.
Still not as bad as a certain New York giant here.
You know, but yeah, you can miss things for a couple days,
but there's a story I want to get through next.
And it has to do with Cam,
Gadaboo. And I'm also
going to tie in another young player in the NFL.
J.J. McCarthy. I'm going to tie
him into this. It's when you
miss something along the way. Like, where's
the disconnect? We'll get to that, but let's go
to our buddy, Dan Byer, for an update.
DB. What's going on, man? No hoops
tonight, but they will be skating in
South Florida. It's game three of the Stanley
Cup final between
the Oilers and Panthers. Eight o'clock
Eastern Time. Series
Tied up at a game of peace.
The Oilers, Ryan Nugent Hopkins.
considered a game time decision.
Did take part in the morning skate for Edmonton.
But again, Oilers and Panthers tonight from South Florida
in game three of the Stanley Cup final.
Back to basketball, Cavaliers Guard, Darius Garland's going to miss four to five months
after needing surgery to repair a toe injury.
That means he'll miss the start of the upcoming season.
That's according to the start of next season, I should say,
that's according to ESPN.
Garland suffered the injury in March and aggravated the toe during the playoffs.
ESPN also reports the Hawks are hiring Pelicans,
GM, Bryson Graham, to be their senior VP of basketball operations.
Balkans quarterback, Kurt Cousins, is expected to be at mandatory minicamp tomorrow for Atlanta.
That's according to the athletic.
He's right now the backup to Michael Pennix Jr.
And would be fined if he missed minicamp.
That was the message from head coach Rahim Morris.
Packers releasing quarterback Jaya Alexander.
Bengals are letting go of linebacker Jermaine Pratt.
Colts have announced a new ownership structure following the passing of Jim Ursay.
The ownership of the franchise will be split amongst his three daughters,
with Carly Ursay Gordon being.
named owner and CEO of the franchise.
And the Boston Red Sox are calling up top prospect outfield to Roman Anthony.
Roman Anthony, that is, he bats fifth tonight against the Tampa Bay raise.
Don't expect Caitlin Clark back tomorrow, guys, against the Atlanta Dream,
the Indiana Fever Star going to miss her fifth strike game because of a strained quad.
Back to you.
That's a meme.
It was like Indiana fever games without Caitlin Clark tickets are back to like $3.
So get back soon.
Caitlin Clark, save the WMBA.
You're the only one that people care about.
Dan Byer, let me ask you.
NHL Stanley Cup finals, I doubt anyone knows off the top of their head.
But if tonight went to overtime, I can't imagine there's been an NBA,
NHL Stanley Cup finals where the first three games were all overtime, right?
Yeah, I don't know off the top of my head.
That would be crazy.
That would be unprecedented, right?
I mean, game one overtime, Edmonton wins.
Game two overtime, Florida wins.
If they do another overtime?
And Fridays was in double overtime.
And what people always say, nothing better than playoff hockey, especially overtime.
So hockey fans are getting what they want.
Yeah, it has been really good, to be honest.
I even have buddies who weren't really into hockey,
and I can't say that I was,
but I've watched more this year that I've watched in the past decade.
And same with my buddy.
He's like, yeah, I've actually really enjoyed it.
You know that feeling of live we just spoke of
when it comes to just putting on the news because here's what's going on right now?
Yeah.
That's it when it comes to sports a lot of times.
I'm not invested in hockey, right?
And especially these two teams.
But I'll have it on.
That's all we ask.
Put it on tonight.
That's all.
Have it on.
Have it on in the background.
This is what's going on tonight.
I said Cam Scataboo and J.J. McCarthy, what are they having in common?
What are they having common with my dumbass who didn't know it was going on in my own city all weekend?
When you miss something along the way, there's two funny stories we'll get to next in the world of the NFL and sports.
So all next right here.
Kavino and Rich, Fox Sports Radio.
Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to a...
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
We're starting a trend.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say,
Hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen.
We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy,
not quite, unhumored me,
with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band
with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smygle and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect.
God's chosen kingdom on earth.
He felt destined for greatness.
So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world,
he doesn't look back.
Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey.
I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come
across.
When Jacob met Levant, this went to a billion-dollar fraud.
But with two kings from entire.
entirely different worlds.
Just how long can their empire survive?
The largest tax investigation in American history.
You need to tell me what you know.
Is somebody coming after me?
Jacob told, Levan, you're ruining my life.
Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the Aihar Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Last night, a blown call changed a game.
This morning, the internet lost its mind.
Highlights are trending.
are flying and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.
I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies,
and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves,
their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama,
the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games,
from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions
everybody wants answered.
Sports Slice brings you closer to the action
with stories told by the people who live them.
Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12
and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis.
And I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast,
I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.
every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay.
Jen she went.
I mean, she went down at three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now,
and I actually can win on any surface.
Because if she's serving, well, good luck.
Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts.
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I Heart Women's Sports.
You miss things sometimes.
It's all good.
By the way, rest in peace.
Sly and the Family Stone, lead singer, 82 years old.
Did you see that?
I miss that too.
I just want to let people know that's a sad day.
He's a funk legend, a music legend.
But when you see Sly Stone, your mind thinks Sly Stelone.
Well, yeah, you scared me for a second.
When you said rest in peace, I'm like, who?
Not that that would be.
be any worse or you know but not sly stalone sly stone from sly in the family stone
82 years old anyway cavino and rich fox sports radio big sexy ryan on the ones and twos
danny g dan mire spot and of course iron mike fake iron mike getting ready for some trivia giving
away prizes we got iron mike stopping by on a monday but hope you had a nice weekend hope you enjoyed
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OKC evens up the NBA finals.
The Oklahoma City Thunder
clapped back at the Pacers.
After receiving a massive gut punch,
a game in which they led throughout
until there were three tenths of a second to play in game one
on the Halliburton Rainbow jumper,
losing 11-110.
They show that rebounding prowess,
unbeaten following losses.
That remains intact as the Thunderwin game too big.
123-107 over the Indiana Pacers.
That is courtesy of WWLS, Thunder Radio Network.
The finals move to Indy on Wednesday now.
We've got to wait until Wednesday.
That is a bummer, man.
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Did anyone watch any of season two of tires?
Hell no.
On Netflix with Shane Gillis?
I'd have to watch season one.
You know like Shane Gillis?
Does he like me?
Because then it'll determine my answer.
I haven't asked him.
Yeah, well, when you find out, let me know.
Okay, fair enough.
He's all right.
He's all right.
Your buddy John Lovitz.
Oh, that's the ticket is in season two.
I don't like Shane Gillis.
I like some of his stuff, but I don't know him personally.
So anyway, I hope you enjoyed the finals this weekend.
And I am everyday people.
Steve Kavino.
That is Rich Davis.
Oh, did you appreciate my dude, Pete Alonzo, giving props,
to your favorite bowler of all time?
I did.
He's like, who do you think you are?
I am.
They did the lip reading and the dugout.
It was great.
Pete Alonzo.
Pete Alonzo, to think that any team in baseball
could have had him for like nothing.
Dude's hitting bombs.
I mean, what are you talking about?
Your own team didn't want him.
That's what I'm saying.
Then they finally were like,
all right, let's do it, Pete.
But every other chance
in Major League Baseball had the opportunity.
Yeah, because I think every other team was like,
the guys of New York Met.
Why aren't the Mets signing them?
Yeah, but at any given moment.
You should look at your own team before you point fingers
anybody else. You guys didn't want him.
Hey, ass clown. He's on the Mets. Doing better
than everyone else. Yeah, and you didn't
want him. That's the point. I'm just saying, you're Dodgers,
your Yankees, your
the Yankees, you already got
Goldschmidt at that point. But what I'm saying is
anyone could have had Pete Alonzo and to
think how good he's playing.
He was just up for grabs.
You can't be saying that when everyone was saying
it to you about your Mets.
Every Mets fan wanted him. The Mets just knew
that the market somehow wasn't
popping. But you're calling out every other team when
Everyone else was like, how do you guys not want them?
Hey, dummy, the Mets got them.
You mean the number two all-time home run hitter for the New York Mets about the past Daryl Strawberry?
Yeah, we knew that.
Rich, the Dodgers have this guy named Freddie Freeman at first base.
Yeah, the Yankees had just signed somebody.
You're telling me when Michael Bunk-ass canforto is in your lineup, you couldn't have made room for Pete Alonzo.
You know, Michael Kifesto, who bats who bats who bats who bats who bouts one-10?
You mean the guys, you mean your Mets who had them already and needed a first baseman?
point the finger at yourself.
You're the guys that were hesitating on them.
You dumbass.
All I'm saying is that everyone else had the chance.
The Mets almost blew it and somehow recovered.
But everyone in the...
You know what it's like...
It's like dating a girl that's beautiful.
She's hot.
She's smart.
Your family lover.
She's perfect for you.
And you almost let her get away.
Luckily, somehow, you know, you broke up for a week.
And she didn't meet anybody new.
And you, oh, thank God, we're back together.
the Mets could have very easily lost Pete Alonzo.
I'm saying they're lucky they did it.
All right.
This Camp Scataboo story, let me set it up.
First I want to say he seems like a good dude.
Yeah, man.
But sometimes you can be so in your bubble that you don't know other things.
He is now a member of the New York Football Giants.
And when you believe this guy, we're going to play the audio when we come back.
You saw him crying with his fan when he got drafted.
Would you believe that this dude was pretty unaware of who was in what division in the NFL?
And you hear about this with rules in sports.
You hear about this across the board.
We're going to get to it next.
Right here, Kavino and Rich.
Fox Sports Radio.
Your feedback and much more next.
Hey, guys, it's us.
The Jonas Brothers.
I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin.
And I'm Nick.
And guess what?
We created our own podcast called,
Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We get to ask people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it.
but, you know, tired and sick, tired and sick.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy,
not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel,
help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends
on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Joey Dardano.
And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite,
I'll be changing lives,
helping people in need with thoughtful solutions.
Sike, I'm a comedian.
I'm not qualified to give good advice.
Join me and my comedian friends
as we riff rant and recommend some of
the most legally dubious advice
known to me.
This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know.
Listen to Help from a Hypocrite Wednesdays on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The story I've told myself can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection.
This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown if you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole.
This podcast is for you to hear more.
Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network
on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021.
And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager.
And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast.
I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers.
We also love sports.
And with the World Cup right around the corner,
we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines
ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.
Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
