The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Covino & Rich - Ohtani's Magical Return

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

C&R are excited for Vegas this Friday! They talk J.J. Spaun, Joey Chestnut & Shohei Ohtani! Does Ohtani's big return to the mound trump Game 5 of the NBA Finals tonight? Troy Aikman has thoughts about why refs HAVE to get calls right in 2025, the guys react. Plus, a no-hitter in the College World Series & Shaq being denied by SGA!  Follow C&R on their Apple Podcast page: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/covino-rich/id1212071900See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Getting swept, but Caitlin Clark, logo, threes. Am I right, Sam? Oh, yeah. Welcome to the Clark side. 32 points and 31 minutes. But she had some big games and big shots. Props to Caitlin Clark. What about a JJ spa in Southern California kid type of weekend?

Oh, yeah. So, hey, hopefully you got to see all your friends' pictures of their dads on social media. And you had a great weekend. Yeah, nice release. relaxing weekend, hopefully for you. Let's have a kick-ass week. Like I said, it all culminates with a live broadcast on Friday from Vegas at the Circa.

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You excited about this one, man. Yeah, I'm looking forward to this weekend. I heard Spotty has room for about 500 more listeners. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, actually, yeah. It's like a good problem. Spot. Our video guy who's running the whole thing, he's like,

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Lean into it. It'll work itself out, much like the Mets starting pitching where it's like, how are we going to fit these guys in? Don't worry. Someone will get hurt. Someone will start stinking like Gabe Lincoln. Don't worry. It all balances out.

It all works out. It all works out. That's right. Now, on today's show, we will talk some Jean Carlo, but more Shohei, because he also makes his return tonight. Yep. That's the big story. Is it the biggest story? I think it might be. Plus, Joey Chestnut. Another guy making a return.

Talk about the biggest story. He's going to join us live on the show. We got the hot dog eating champ himself. The announcement was made today, his big return. I know. Why do you think I said, swing, swing in the beginning of the show? Oh, you're talking about his hot dog. I'm just so excited about Joey Chestnut. Well, he returns to the Nathan's hot dog eating contest 4th of July.

So we'll get a fun little... Honestly, it is big news. Chicken. It hasn't been the same with Adam. You need that. It's like peanut butter and jelly. You need Joey Chestnut to complete the festivities. And we'll talk about it.

Plus, last one's standing. The game that's sweeping the nation, we'll do some trivia here on the show, give away some prizes. But might as well get into it right off the bat, as they say, pun intended, show hay style. I'm going to roll with your show hey, but you brought up Joey Chestnut, and we're going to have them on in about an hour.

So I have to ask this. Being that you did give shoutouts and props to Caitlin Clark, welcome to the Clark side. I mean, that's what Sam's T-shirt says. Oh my God, that is a cool shirt. Thank you. Second time wearing it. I just proud the first time I probably just thought you were a Star Wars nerd.

It is in that same vein. I thought you just like Clark bars. What's more miserable? Clark Griswold. What's more miserable? the WMBA without Caitlin Clark or hot dog eating without Joey Chestnut. It's sort of comparable, right? I mean, like, you're talking about taking the face of it out of it.

Serio with no milk. Yeah, I mean, is there... Just use some water. I can't think of a third comparable. Hand without the burger. A hot dog getting contest is when you take chestnut out of it or the WMBA. You saw it happen with the ratings and ticket sales when she was gone for a couple weeks. And without Roseanne.

That was the weakest. That stupid-ass show continued for years. I know. This ain't Roseanne without Roseanne. Connors get into my face. So, wait, is there a show that, oh, the office without Steve Corell? Right, yeah. Two and a half men without Charlie Sheen. I'm going to have to go to NBA because it went from everybody talking about it,

everybody tuned in. It's really making a push. Cam Newton saying it's bigger than baseball are going to be. Like, yeah, okay. If you revolve it around one person, because when she's not playing, and no one's really talking about it the same way. It wasn't the same banter. And as soon as she came back, lighten it up.

Circus shots, by the way. And everyone, once again, man, she's really different. Yeah, but there were still a few other players people who were following that I saw clips of while she was out with without chestnut being at Nathan's. We didn't even tune in at all to the competition. I can tell you who won. We didn't even know who won without them. So that's a good question.

Nathan's without Chestnut or WMBA without Caitlin Clark. You know, yes, some NBA players, because we're going to talk about the NBA finals game five tonight. There's people saying without woge, there's like, I mean, no offense to shams. But isn't there, aren't there people that are saying it's just not the same with the breaking news, new woe bombs? I just put a lot more credibility into the WNBA than I do into hot dog eating. But it is an American pastime. And Danny G does make a good point. It really was nothing without Joey Chesda.

It was completely off our radar. Yeah, it wasn't the same. Nathan Bertoletti, the defending champion, 24. His name was even Nathan, and we never even went like, oh, that's coincidental because no, I'm sorry. No, no, no, that, no, I just, I don't know. His name's Patrick Bertoletti, I don't know why. I said Nathan because I was thinking of Nathan's, Patrick Bertoletti, I'm sorry. But he ate 58.

You know what, I'm going to write that down. Is that the dude that wears the Red Sox hat? I'm going to, I'm going to ask Joey Chesson if he's more important than Caitlin Clark. Let me write that down. You more about it. Well, I heard the, I heard the Red Sox traded Devers for Bertoletti. All right, so we'll get to Joey Chestnut. We're going to get to NBA Finals game five tonight.

And I'm sure Elias at the Sports Bureau probably has some stat about whoever wins game five wins such and such percentage of the NBA final. So we'll break down a little bit of what we're going to watch tonight. But are you watching that tonight? Or is there a bigger story trumping, jumping the NBA finals game five? Well, it's Shohei's return. Show Hey, Otani. I think everything takes a backseat to show hey tonight. It's his first pitching appearance since August 23rd, 2023.

Please don't get hurt. Please don't get hurt. And that's the risk you're taking, but life's a risk, carnal. And I don't know if it's worth it, but you heard Dan Byers updates. They're saying one to two winnings. I don't know if there's a pitch count in mind, but one to two winnings. I'm sure everyone's closely going to watch. And everyone's going to be closely watching on TV as well.

you know, I think that everybody's tuning into this because you want to see if he brings the juice, what he's about is his first game pitching as a Dodger. All of a sudden, it's the hottest ticket to get. So we got that announcement. I mean, yesterday, right? Wasn't he yesterday? You're like, damn, show he's going to pitch just like that. We've been seeing him warm up obviously since. But I think even an NBA game five where it's all tied up and you got young superstars playing big takes a backseat to Shohei Otani. massive he is and that's how great he is for baseball. I would have told you there's no way in the world a baseball story in June

would be more on a lot of people's radar than the NBA finals game five when it's tied up to a piece. Yeah, people are also supposed to be excited that Jean-Carlo Stanton's coming back after all the elbow problems, his first game in over 70 games.

He's missed the entire season. And you remember the postseason he had last year. He played big doesn't your girlfriend like him too? I mean, I think all women like him. He's the best butt in baseball. I think your wife probably likes him too. She just doesn't tell you.

But he's the oldest 35-year-old in baseball. 429 home runs. He had 27 dongs last year, and he played big in the postseason. He makes his return to the already stacked Yankees lineup. And honestly, aside from me, no one gives a diddly squat. And I get it because Shohe Otani makes his return against the Padres. So ask yourself this about Shohei. There's too many questions.

I'm going to give you five. Number one, is it bigger than the NBA finals game five? Is a crucial game five in the NBA? Taking a backseat to the return of the biggest star in baseball returning to the mound in a relatively meaningless June game. We'll take the temperature tonight. We'll see all the highlights. You'll see social media.

You'll see what's trending. And it's going to be Shohei because it was worldwide dominance. and how people love the guy and how big he is for baseball and for the Dodgers. And to see him become the two-way player that everyone was pumped for him to be and how pumped we were to see as a Dodger, it all starts tonight. Remember, he won with the Dodgers. He played his ass off last year, but we never seen him on the mound as a Dodger yet. So think of the greatness he brought as a hitter to the Dodgers.

Can he bring that same greatness as a pitcher? That's ridiculous. MVP greatness, world series champion greatness? That's what I mean. So like, all right, let's see what we. has now. So it absolutely takes precedence over a game five, which sounds ridiculous. But that's just my prediction. That's my feeling because, I mean, we've already had a competitive series so far. It's tied at two. And I mean, I don't think everyone's that pumped about it. We are. It's been a great

series. This is where stars are born. This is where legacies begin and dynasties begin. I get it. I've never claimed to be a diehard NBA fan. So I'll tell you, straight up honest. I'm way more excited to see Shohey take the mound tonight. I was a little fired down that it's like a two-inning maximum, but that's expected. Yeah. I mean, but I thought maybe they'd give him, depending on how he pitched, a pitch count as opposed to innings. I'm pretty sure you could still check out both, but if you're asking me what I'm genuinely

more excited about, I'd be lying if I'm like, man, NBA game five. I'll watch. But I am intrigued to see what Shohei Otani does tonight as a Dodger on the mound against a division rival. Like, I know it's June, but it's exciting, Danny G. Yeah, I can't wait for it. Although I am nervous because you saw him hit those couple home runs against the Giants the other day.

He's in his own. Yeah, you do not want the flow to be interrupted as far as his bat goes. Or his legs with stolen bases. My list of questions is applicable to you and a Dodgers fan. So follow me here, okay? When it comes to Shohei Otani tonight returning first time pitching for the Doyers. Is it because he wants it? is it because the fans want it?

Is it because the Dodgers want to get, quote, their money's worth? I think they've already got their money's worth. Is it because the Dodgers? Answer B, he wants it. He wants it more than anything. The fans want him. If you're a real Dodgers fan, yeah, there's intrigue there and you're rooting for him, but you want him to be healthy and safe.

You want no injuries, no risks. You don't want to mess with something that's already working. So I think the real fan, the real Dodgers fan, it's not for them. The casual fan or the baseball fan, I should say, like me? I think we're intrigued because like, hell yeah, let's see it. But this is all because he wants to be that guy because he can be that guy. And then the next question is with the Dodgers currently being one of the best teams in baseball, do they need it?

And then the final question is, is it all those combined and just overall good for baseball? And that answer is obviously yes. Well, right now they do need it because they are so injured in. the starting pitcher slash bullpen category that you know to have an otani out there is only good right now but in the long term you just hope that none of these ugly injuries rear their heads ever again because he's had not one but two uh surgeries on that elbow so you just you just pray that there's not going to be anything bad that comes from this this goes back to one of our famous examples here and it's the question

Yeah, you guys remember when Farah Fawcett died? The answer is probably no, because it was overshadowed by when Michael Jackson passed away. Michael Jackson gets all the attention, all the headlines. And even though, hey, we miss Farah Fawcett and she was a legend and all that, Michael Jackson took precedent over everything. Right? So he takes the headline. And unfortunately, Farah Fawcett takes the back seat to this story.

Shohei is the biggest story of the night. Everything else, Jean-Carlo. Stanton, game five, the NBA finals. Everything else that happens between now and then takes a backseat to that. That's how big it is. And again, not just in the world of baseball and here in America.

Worldwide. That's the difference. He's that much of a megastar. And that answers your question again, Rich, about the Dodgers want what they pay for. They've already gotten their money. No doubt. They got it back last year. I just wonder, is there anyone that's like, man,

we paid him 70 mil to pitch and Is that even a sentiment or is like, no, no, no, we have show him, Taddy. Had they not won the World Series, you might hear some of that. Maybe. I think that put it to bed. He's proven to be the star everybody wanted him to be. The guy is, he's a freak. He really is, a freak of nature.

And that's why everyone's tuned in and everyone's excited to see, hey, he might get rocked. We just want to see, like, yo, is he dominant? Or is he a little suss right now? is he going to get rocked by the Padres? You don't keep in mind. You don't think the Padres have something to say about this? You don't think that they're getting together and they're like, yo, man, we play today, we win today. Dacet.

Your big baseball fan. I am Danias. Matt just hit us up in Minnesota at Covino Roche. He goes, you guys are nuts to think Otani pitching trumps the NBA finals. It does. It does. I think it does. I don't think there's any question.

I understand the magnitude of a finals versus a regular season. in game. I think it's up for debate. I mean, yeah, there's NBA fans that are like, you serious? You know, I will say this. If it was a like a winner go home sort of game, then yeah, now we're talking. This is a game five. Crucial game five. It's a crucial

game five, but it's not hey, someone's winning tonight. It's not game seven. Yeah, it's not a game seven. Cove, um, you gave the Farrah Fawcett, Michael Jackson analogy, and that's just life, right? Like, whatever's going on in your world, you don't need to be a celebrity, a

I guess superstar in sports or entertainment, but your news is only as big as what else is going on in everyone's world. Like, for instance, you could say if someone unfortunately passes away on the same day as a bigger celebrity, they're not going to get the headline. I always call it the office drunk at the office party scenario. If you're drunk at the company like holiday party, if someone's more drunk and they're like humping random strangers and they're like doing this. toast and falling off of tables. No one will remember that you were a drunk fool to party because that's the drunkest fool. And I think that sometimes

you're just comparing yourself to what's the biggest story. It's like when we were on a plane with O.J. Simpson, which is a true story. We were on a plane with O.J. Simpson and we said, man, if this plane goes down because of karma, we're barely a blurb. Like OJ Simpson dies

from karma and a plane crash. And on board we're... And two national radio hosts. And two we need radio. And they wouldn't have misspelled you. And also Steve Corvino. And Convino and Rick were also on the flight. No one cares at that point.

You know, so again, I think, again, this is our prediction. We're not guaranteeing it. This is our prediction. We'll see how the public feels about it tonight. That's the fun of it. Are you going to see more coverage and headlines? I mean, everybody's algorithms different, but are you going to see more coverage and excitement for show hey back or a game five? Check social media and I'll tell you why, because.

ESPN all of a sudden hates baseball and they, you know, I wonder why. They lick the sweat off the basketball shoes of the NBA. They probably hate the fact that ratings are growing everywhere and their contract is up. They're done with baseball. So bad timing for them. That's like when you break up with a girl and then she gets real hot afterward. I broke up with a girl once and you got huge boobs after we broke up. Baseball has huge boobs now.

ESPN's like, oh, man. This may change with a game winning shot tonight. Can you hang it one more time? Well, that's also the fun of our conversation, Danny, Jay. Well, I was going to say, if basketball has like a nail-but-upy overtime game, that could be cool. But over the weekend, over the weekend, I saw more clips and I got hit up with more text messages about that Lance Stevenson, Dwight Howard fight. Me too. In the big three, then I did game four in the NBA finals.

People like drama show, man. That was a really cool. moment. Again, it was an ugly scene, but when you see Dwight Howard and Lance Stevenson going at it, into the stands, wrestling, people love that. People love that. So, yeah, I saw the same thing. What are people going to be buzzing about? That's really what we're asking you. And what do you care most about? Remember, we're not Dodgers fans. Hey, Little Tortilla boy. Danny is. And I said that respectfully, because I'm comparing you to, as you love to call her, the little tortilla girl. Hard shell or soft shell

Why not both? I look at it this way. It's a Monday, which would normally be like a Monday. Now you got... Monday Fund day. You got Shohei pitching and game five. So if anything, you can't bitch and complain.

You got two cool things to watch tonight. And I got a nudie magazine when I woke up in the mail today. That's Newty Magazine Day? Yeah. So Monday funding. Perfect. All right. Well, listen, we're going to, we'll take your feedback.

What's a bigger story to you? Show Hey or... Oh, yes. NBA finals. Game 5. Troy Aikman's in the news and has to do with gambling in the NFL. And I sort of feel what he's saying. So we'll talk a little NFL.

And of course, the big news today. Joey Chestnut is back? What's the bigger headline? Joey Chestnut's back? Joe Hay's back or Jean-Cardons back? I see. You know, we're going to have to talk to him about it because we got Joey Chestnut.

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You know what I mean? You got to time out your announcements. John Carlos Stanton's return is being trumped by Shohei's return. Shohei's return is trumping Joey Chestnut's return? Or is it? We'll find out when he stops by. We're saying that Shohei trumps everything. Everything takes a back seat to Shohei, including game five tonight NBA finals.

I feel bad sometimes. There will be a celebrity wrapped up in a scandal that isn't really that juicy, but nothing else is going on. And you know that they're praying, like, please, something happened. Like, there was something recently where we were like, wow, that's getting a lot of attention. And Kavino and I said to each other, oh, you know they're praying for something crazy to happen. And then something did. I don't have. You remember what I'm talking about it, I think, right?

Yeah, it was, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. But I'm not saying it. Let's go to the phones at 87799 on Fox. Let's talk to Alex and Phoenix. Does Shohei take precedence over anything else going on tonight? Or are we just buying into the Shohei hype.

The finals are still the finals. What are your thoughts? I mean, it's a technicality, but he probably won't pitch the whole game. So maybe a couple of meetings. Yeah, I mean, one of two winnings. I think for that they will peak there. But, I mean, Terry Taliburton's done a hell of a job. Like, every team is one on the opposing team's court.

So I think it's 50-50. I mean, I do want to give you guys credit, though. I didn't have this on my bingo card of Pablo Francisco and Billy Madison reference in the same sentence before you guys went to break. Oh, yeah. That was pretty good. We're big Pablo fans. We are. And that's no joke either.

We did give a Pablo Francisco. You called me the Little Tortilla Boy. Yeah, Little Tortilla Boy. And we made a Billy Madison Newty Magazine Day reference. That's the show, Alex. You got you get us. Yeah, you do get us. Thank you, Alex.

Thanks, buddy, boy. Now, enjoy your Monday night. Because, again, I said, we're just all the winners here, right? Because you can say, what's more important? How about the fact that on Monday night in June you have the return of Shohay and game five on the same night? Congrats to you. Enjoy your Monday. Now, there was a story about Troy Aikman.

Oh, I know. He's the white JZ. That story? I can't get that out of my head. I know. Every time I see his face, I think then. It is like when they, when so whoever, thought of that where they put Jay-Z

and Troy Aikman side by side and you're like, yo, he's the white Jay-Z. It is uncanny. It's weird. It's like you ever see David Schwimmer with Nick Cage's face on it? And it looks like even more like David Schwimmer? I have actually, yeah. Legendary Dallas Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman says the NFL owes it to the fans who gamble on football to make sure the refs make the right calls. Quote,

there's a lot of money that's changing hands with all these calls. I think we owe it to the fans that we get it right. And I think we're at a point in time where we can. We can get it more right. According to Troy Aikman. So we ask you, does he have a point?

And I think he has a stellar point, Incubis style. I think he makes a great point. And as Mike, who runs this place even said, and I hate agreeing with Mike, but he's right. That guy? Never heard of it. I mean, Mike?

Yeah. It's as simple as if we're at the point in time where we have the technology to see the right call at home, how in the world could you justify not getting it right on the field? There is nothing. Go ahead. On planet Earth, more infuriating than when you're sitting at home and they show a camera angle, it's like, oh, the ball across the plane. And they don't rule that on the field.

Remember we learned last year that the network had some camera angles that... New York didn't have. I'm not dreaming this. This did happen last year. Remember we found out that, wait, whoa, you tell me the replay center doesn't have the camera angles that I believe Amazon had for a Thursday night game. Dan Byer, right? Yeah, yeah.

And this is honestly, guys, why I love coaches challenges so much. Because put it on them, put it on the coaches for wasting a silly challenge. Otherwise, games would take forever. I get that it's infuriating when you're seeing an angle that we haven't seen And I felt like there was, I don't know if it was like a goaltending call or some call maybe in a Lakers series where LeBron was saying like, yeah, how did they get that camera angle or whatever it was? But there seems to be camera angles everywhere. But when it comes to missed calls, it's actually why I like the challenges because it puts the onus not on the officiating on the coaches to be able to correct something that could be so egregious to your point. I think getting it right is like just the basic fundamentals.

I get it. We like the human element, right? You love the human element of sports. Yeah, but gambling has changed that because if they're going to lean into gambling as a source of income and everyone's on board and everyone's in on the action and we know that was a bad call, it only looks corrupt from their standpoint by not using the technology available to get it right. It's like, well, if you got so many people who have money on this, how could you not? You don't want to slow down the games.

And I get that. but there was a play the other night. And again, I'm sorry if I'm referencing a Mets game because that's what I was watching. There was a ball that went off the bat, foul tip. And in the booth, Gary Keith and Ron saw it, fans saw it, the replay showed it, but it's a non-reviewable call.

And then you've got to ask yourself, well, why not? If all of us watching... Imagine losing money on something stupid like that? If all of us were watching and we're like, yeah, you saw the trajectory of the ball changed because it hit slightly off the bat, if we all saw it,

How on the field can they be like, nope, the ball? Well, games could take five hours then. That's why I do like the limit on the challenges. And that's the point that I bring up as well is it's not as much about the missed call. It's about the coaching having the ability. And I understand how you're saying like some calls aren't reviewable. Like that gets frustrating. That's why I thought the face mask penalty, which I've been an advocate of years.

Of course. You can see it. And it actually was finally brought up this year as possibly being something that they would review. Then it ended up not happening with the owners. this offseason, but something like that doesn't need an official to go to the sideline and look at something or an umpire to sit there and hear what's happening. He can get the message from New Jersey or New York or wherever it is and then just say penalty and move on.

But nothing makes me happier, Dan, when you are watching a football game and they make that quick adjustment on the fly because, oh, you know, hey, we quickly saw something. We changed it with no need to stop down the game for minutes at a time. no need to go to a replay. Hey, we saw it, we got it wrong, we got it right now. Let's move along with the game. I also think the main point that Aikman makes, the best point is that we owe it to the fans. If you're relying on the fans to support these sponsors and the sponsors are gambling websites,

which has been a major source of income for so many sports talk radio shows and leagues, then you got to get it right for the fans. because they're seeing it and it's an injustice to them. We're seeing it from home. So the technology is there. It only makes sense to get it right for the fans. So I completely agree with Troy Aikman and who cares about the human element. It's not about the win or the loss anymore.

It's about the millions of dollars that people are making and the millions of dollars that fans are now spending to get it right. I always find it funny when pride got in the way. It's just weird that this is what's causing the change to happen. money. Yeah. Gambling. Yeah, exactly. I always found it funny when there was like a weird pride in

an official or someone knowing they got it wrong, but they stuck by their guns. That to me is like, because even if you're playing rec sports or your kids playing Little League or, you know, PAL basketball, you ever see like a referee or someone get the call

wrong, but everyone else there saw it, like, oh, he tagged them. And you're like, no, he missed him by a good two feet. If everyone, if even the other team's like, yeah, Blue, it was, you know, he missed him. Nope. Oh, like, your pride is that strong that I am bigger than the game.

It's so weird to me. But, hey, Troy Aikman's got something there by saying, get it right. Let's do it. You must have been mad. I know I'm calling out a random play. But earlier in the year, your dude, Frankenstein himself, number 99, Aaron judge hit a home run, but they're like foul ball. And upon replay, it was so fair. I mean, it happened this weekend. You saw double ejection from Aaron Boone. Aaron Boone was ejected. And

DJ LeMayhew ejected for the first time in his career because there was a ball that appeared to be fair. And it was just too close to overturn. But, you know, they at least reviewed it. Yeah. But he complained about it. He got tossed. So look, get it right is the point. And I see no. No shame and no crime in that, especially when you have all this money on the line nowadays. And with all the robots we have. All right. Hey, let's take your feedback. But first, let's go to Dan Byer.

He's got an update. Dan Byer, what's going on, buddy? Guys, you're talking about Otani. You're talking about Game 5 and this overshadowing that. Maybe Gage Wood overshadowed everybody on this Monday. The one two. A no hitter at the College World Series, the third ever, the first since 1960. 19Ks?

Yes, 19 strikeouts today. Arkansas topping Murray State 3-0. Missed a perfect game because he beamed a batter. But I think Arkansas is happy to move on as it was an elimination game, but even more happy that history was made today in Omaha, Gage Wood, with the 19 strikeout no-hitter as the Razorbacks top Murray State and eliminate the racers from the men's college world series. You guys talked about it.

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So funny. I saw the funniest interaction over the weekend at my kids baseball game. I saw maybe like an older grandpa in the stands. He's like, every kid's got a number 99. Each team has someone that's 99. They must love the wild thing, Rick Vaughn. And someone goes like, hey, Frank, Aaron Judge is 90. Oh, damn, that's right.

Old guy thought it was because of a wild thing, Rick Vaughn. I was like, they're all five and six. It's Aaron Judge. And 17, that's not Keith Hernandez. It's Shoahe-Otani. And it's showtime tonight. Yeah, showtime tonight. Hey, we got more Kavino and Rich right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Troy Aikman thought of, we owe it to the fans to get the calls right. With all the money trading hands and all the gambling going on. But you see this all the time. When money, it's sponsors and powerful people get involved, all of a sudden, that's when things change.

Yeah, it doesn't matter why. the change was made as long as this made. Right? I think people are also like, man, we had the technology and the ability to get it right for a minute now. But because of gambling, now we're going to like try to enforce this. And again, this is just speculation from Troy Aikman. But yeah, who cares? If we get it, as long as we get it right, I think that we all just want it to be right without wasting time like the end buyer. Is there a call that or a play in any sport that you wish?

was reviewable, but you know that it would be a slippery slope. But I remember pass interference, Danny G, where we realized, oh man, you could almost sort of call pass interference on any play. I feel like you can't challenge holding. I almost feel like if you also challenged

face mask, it has to be egregious. Like, I think of like, if you grab someone's mask for a half a second, like, is it really within reason? There's still a human element involved because the initial well, in baseball, for example, right? If you, if it's the evidence is not good enough to overturn,

then you stick with the original call. So it just matters on what they called and how it pans out. And is there enough evidence to overturn that? To overturn it, right? So there's still a human element involved. Yeah, and speaking of money being involved, Chet, he texted us. He said, if a cashier gives you the wrong

change, you don't say, that's the human element, you say it's a mistake and you want it to be corrected. Yeah, especially when it's your money on the line, right? What if they give you too much change? Well, that's different. That's fun. You just look over your shoulders, make sure no one saw it and you walk away.

All right. So I'm on team Troy Aikman as far as getting it right in the NFL in all sports, in fact. I'm just looking at the all-star balloting so far for baseball. Your boy, Paul Goldschmidt, leading first baseman? I mean, dude's having a season. Having a season. He's a Hall of Famer. You look at his numbers.

He's like, damn. And to prove my point earlier, and Dan Byer, then the update said, leading vote getter Aaron Judge He really is He really is You know I mean he had a bad weekend

But he's another circus freak Everything he hits He destroys So enjoy your show hey return tonight Enjoy your NBA Game 5 Now tonight You know

They always say whoever wins game 5 When it's tied 2 2 ends up You know most likely winning the whole thing Do you think that's the case Danny Or do you see this is just every day It's like back and forth This has felt like a seven game series from the start.

OKC is almost double-digit favorites at home, game five. The sentiment is all long. They should have been the team. So if they win big tonight, I do wonder, can, Ken, can Indiana go back for game six? I mean, that's been the pattern all along, right? So on that OKC tip, I just want to let people know that over the weekend,

aside from all the sports we were watching, and of course how to train your dragon which was number one I watched this show called Power Moves with Shaquille O'Neal on Netflix and Shaq

is now the president of Reebok which he helped build he helped build that brand with Alan Iverson who's now the VP and one of Shaq's priority moves was to get SGA to sign with Reebok and you see the whole thing play out where SGA resigns with Converse

but sort of blows off Shaq a little bit respectfully, but... Yeah, it felt like they didn't have enough money, right? They didn't have enough money, so they pivot and they start going after G-League players like Think Pate and other guys like that. But if you want to see behind the scenes... Oh, that's got to be awkward. It's really cool because his mind was set like SGA, before he was MVP,

SGA's the guy to take this brand to where it used to be with me. Cool, but you ever... I don't think the average fan thinks about those awkward situations, meaning Kavino. If you are a star player, picture it almost like, you know, on The Bachelor, I'm not making the lamest analogy, but it makes total sense. You don't need to, because you see Shaq go right up to SGA. He's like, hey, man, we need to talk business after the game.

We need to talk some business. And, you know, it's an honor, but he still has to sort of reject them politely. And he starts ghost and Shaq a little bit. That's the vibe I got. I'm saying it's sort of like dating, like free agency and stuff like that is dating where you have to let someone down. And I can only imagine if you're a free agent and you've met with five teams, and they're all so confident, like, he's going to come here. You have to tell those four teams like, I'm sorry, you're just not the one.

Yeah. And SGA had to tell that to Shaq. To Shaq. Yeah. And again, really worth to watch. It's a fun watch. It's called Power Moves on Netflix when you're done with all the great games tonight. Nice.

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