The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Credit to the Cowboys

Episode Date: August 1, 2019

Colin believes the Dallas Cowboys are smarter than people give them credit for, his prediction for the Cleveland Browns and why he’s impressed with Baker Mayfield, and why New England Patriots QB Tom Brady is right for liking his owner. Guests include Urban Meyer, Chris Simms, Greg Jennings, and Greg Cosell.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, here we go on a Thursday. This is The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we are live in Los Angeles. Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1, Urban Meyer, Greg Jennings, Chris Sims, Greg CoSell, stops by again today. And Joy Taylor is joining me. I know for a lot of people, they consider this the dead time for some. Sports Talk Radio in America.

I love coming to work on days like this. Today, our prep usually lasts two and a half hours. We were about an hour of 45 in. We had it all done. We got so many topics today. Joy, how are you? I'm great. Good morning.

Joy today looks like an elegant movie star in 1969. We are in Hollywood, Colin. In 1967, Marlina Dietrich is dominating the airways. I'm going for Dorothy Dan. You're drive people to the theater. You're drive people to the theater. You look great. Thanks.

Hi, everybody. Great to have you in. You know, you ever work with anybody? Are you ever been to somebody in your life? And you're like, oh, they're loopy. They're crazy. And then all of a sudden, years later, you're like, maybe they were a lot smarter than I thought. I know we've made fun.

People have, the media has made fun of Jerry Jones. You ever think maybe? Have you watched their drafts in the last seven, eight years? maybe Dallas is a little smarter than you think. They do win their division, two of the last three years. When's the last time outside of the Romo injured year? They were bad. Maybe Jerry Jones, he did hire Parcells and Jimmy Johnson.

Maybe Jerry's a little smarter than you think, and his son's a little smarter than you think. Two days ago, I said this, Joy and I talked about this. That Jerry Jones just put on a cowboy hat and a cowboy shirt, sat under a nice, shaded tree and delivered an address saying basically, you know, running backs don't win Super Bowls. And he said it with that Texas charm and that homie Texas slang. And you're like, man, Jerry's making a real impact here. Well, Stephen Jones did it yesterday, his son. Stephen Jones came out and he talked to the media.

But I want you to listen to what he said because he's not talking to the media. Oh, I mean, the media is who he's addressing, but he's talking to other cowboy players. Here it is. Talk about Zique. We want to be fair. We want our players to feel good about their contract. But at the same time, we don't want to do things that are out of line because we can't afford to be that way. Whether it's DAC, whether it's Amari, whether it's Zique, they all understand we've got a whole group of young players coming behind them that want to be Dallas Cowboys and want to stay here.

And we save money, whether it's with DAC, whether it's with Zique, whether it's with Amari. It's not saving Jerry. and I dollar. It's just money that's going to go to another player. Oh, that's so smart. Stephen Jones is saying, that gang, Cabo, he's taking your money. Not taking ours. He's not talking to the media there.

This is not Zeke against the cowboy owners. Jerry and Stephen have pushed it, moved the argument to Zeke is taking your money. So smart. Now it's not ownership against Young Star Player. It's Zique. If he takes more money, he's just taking money out of your pocket and your family's pocket. And you guys are all great. And there is an advantage to having that sort of, I got to be honest, that whole Texas

twang thing makes everything sound a little softer. Somebody with a Texas tank twang could walk up to you and say, you're fired. And we love you here. But you just couldn't get the job done. And we love you here in Dallas. But you're not getting a job done. I'm going to have to fire you. And I feel bad for your family.

and your children. But we'll have to let you go. And by the end of it, you're like, yeah, you didn't do a good enough job. You deserve to be fired. It's that Texas twang thing. And Stephen and Jerry just go on, we'd love to pay you. It's like the opposite of a British accent. Like the British accent is harsh.

You know, you can say anything with a British accent, and it sounds smart, right? Like, you got that, of course, Paw Patrol is the greatest show of all time. If you don't watch Nickelodeon, you don't understand the world is flat, it's complete rubbish and you believe it. There's something about Stephen and Jerry and the Texas twang and they make you feel like they love you and won't put your arms around you and they want you to be cowboys and boy they're good at it. Boy, they're good at it.

They're really smart at it. And they turn this Zeke thing. This could implode a locker room, right? You got to pay Zeke. You got to pay the star and they just shift it over. We love him. We think he's a good old cowboy. Well, he takes money from this cowboy.

We can't give it to this other cowboy we like. It's so smart. It's so thoughtful. It's so brilliant that this is no longer Zeke against management. It's Zeke taken money from other cowboy players. They have done. By the way, Jane Slater was on our show yesterday. Everybody keeps saying it's going to get done.

But Jane Slater on our show yesterday, Cowboy Beat reporter said, Not so fast. I reached out this morning and the text back I got on was close. Nope. And I said, what is the sticking point then? Are we talking guarantees? Are we talking extensions, Joy? The pushback I got was everything. Now, my follow-up question was, okay, well, do we anticipate we're going to see him show up in Oxnard on August 6, this arbitrary deadline we've been hearing about how it affects him being restricted free agent after this year? The response was we don't know. Remember this about Jerry and Stephen Jones. The NFL is owned, except Mark Davis of the Raiders, mostly by 30 millionaires, billionaires. And yet the billionaires let the Jones family lead them on most issues.

Billionaires don't choose the dumb guys in the room to lead them. The Cowboys know what they're doing. Jerry and Stephen know what they're doing. And what they're doing is telling all those cowboy players, You're all young and great, and we want to be in business with all of you forever. That guy in Cabo down there having fun in the surf, he's just taking your money. Really smart. Let me shift to this.

So lists can be arbitrary, opinion-based, not really fact-based, but lists are fun, especially when a list is comprised of opinions from people in an industry. So NFL players every year vote on the top 100 players in the NFL. NFL players do. And they voted this year in the top 100 players. And there are 15 quarterbacks that made the list. Now, they didn't go 1 through 15. But here is the order in which NFL players who watch film, who watch quarterbacks, who see their strengths, who see their weaknesses,

who listen to their coaches tell them, this quarterback can do this, he can't do this. Here is the order of the quarterbacks, according to players. Drew Breeze, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady. Aaron Rogers, 4, Philip Rivers, Andrew Luck. Number 7, Russell Wilson, 8, Jared Goff, Big Ben, Baker Mayfield's the 10th best, Deshawn Watson, Matt Ryan,

Kirk Cousins 13, Neuton 14, Carson Wentz, injured a lot, is the 15th and last quarterback selected by players in the top 100 list. It is mostly reasonable. It is not outrageous. Baker's a little higher than I would put him. Kirk Cousins is a little higher than I would put him. I would put Derek Carr somewhere in that list, in my opinion. But players are telling you, Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield, and Kirk Cousins.

better than Cam. Players watch film, players hear coaches, players face him over and over. I do not hate Cam Newton. I was just right and early on Cam Newton. Is that players, and players, by the way, generally like super-athletic stars. Players sometimes don't get the system guy, but players generally, they like their Antonio Brown. They like their OBJ. Players like NBA, guys love Westbrook.

Staff can't get any credit for players. They love Westbrook. Cam's a kind of guy people would like. Big, handsome, rock star. He's got his, you know, he's got music. He's more than just a player. You think players would like him. Nope.

Kirk Cousins is ahead of him. Jared Goff's ahead of him. Baker Mayfield, baby, ahead of him. I don't hate Cam Newton. I never hated Russell Westbrook. I can hate components and part of their game. Is that after all these years, seven years of excuses, once again, I'm being told,

Cam doesn't have this, Cam doesn't have that, Cam doesn't have this. Deshawn Watson doesn't have an offensive line. And he's significantly higher than Cam Newton. Stop with the excuses. Nobody is a victim of their reputation. It is all. talk show host, dentist, attorney, teacher, quarterback earned. Seven years in, this is what Cam is, according to other NFL players.

And it's just about where I have him. I have my head of Kirk Cousins, by the way. I have my head of Kurt Cousins. That I do. I think I also have him ahead of Baker Mayfield. I may not. That's a close one. I watched them play last year.

I thought Baker was better on that Sunday. All right. Great having you in today. Isn't it amazing about, and I say this lovingly, isn't it amazing about what a Texas twang does? I'm listening to Stephen Jones. You almost feel guilty to being paid as a cowboy. We love all. We want to pay all.

We all want to be cowboy. I'm like, I don't know, I take a pay cut to play for this team. I mean, you got to use the gifts you're given on. You really do. I mean, just the gift of that Jones family, little Texas draw. You got that Southern Charm? That's what they call it. They call it Southern Charm.

Use it to your advantage. to your advantage. That's what they call it, by the way. Good get on that. It's called Southern Charm. And boy, to the Jones boys know how to work it. Coming up next, there's a reason comedies don't get made much in Hollywood anymore. And it's the same reason the Cowboys are reluctant to pay Zeke exactly what he wants. We'll talk about that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get to flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that I said, you figure it out. real quick. Get your ass up and down the court and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or

wherever you get your podcasts. Joy Taylor is joining me. Urban Meyer, Chris Sims, Greg Jennings, and Greg co-sell today on a Thursday. I hope you're having a great summer. Right now, the movie industry, it's hard to get comedies made. It's hard to get people, the big

money people in Hollywood to spend a lot of money on a comedy. And the bridesmaids back in 2011 was the last like big comedy hit. That was a very, very funny movie. Did you ever see bridesmaids? I thought it was. I thought it was absolutely hilarious. I mean, like, it was kind of like hangover for women. It was inappropriate. It was great. It was great. And that was the last big comedy hit in America, bridesmaids. But it's very hard to get comedies made. And the reason being is once movies start

bombing in a certain genre, the money people back out. It's the same thing in the NFL. Momentum is a real thing. If you try to pitch a comedy in Hollywood today, people would say, can I put Spider-Man in it? Maybe Spider-Man has a wacky neighbor. How about Iron Man? Iron Man and a wacky, zany sidekick. That would be a good comedy. This is the new momentum of Hollywood.

Big blockbuster superhero movies. It's the same thing in the NFL. Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones, go look at the last four teams in the NFL last year. Rams had Todd Gurley, star running back, got hurt, put in C.J. Anderson, got to a Super Bowl. Kansas City Cut Kareem Hunt Got to the AFC championship overtime. New England

A bunch of B running backs. Super Bowl won it. Saints traded Mark Ingram, no big deal. Gave their wide receiver big money, not the running back. This is the current momentum. This is the current momentum

in the NFL. And by the way, the Rams look a lot like the Cowboys. They pay Dodd Gurley. and it looks like money not well spent. The Rams have a young quarterback. Some of you doubt. So to the Cowboys. The Rams and the Cowboys have way above average offensive lines.

Rams and the Cowboys have some spectacular young defensive stars. Todd Gurley got hurt for the Rams. Let's get C.J. Anderson. He's been cut twice last year. Boom, Super Bowl. By the way, CJ faced the Cowboys. He had 123 yards rushing in Los Angeles. So this is the way it works in Hollywood.

It's hard to get comedies made. Because the current momentum is, comedies don't make big money. The current momentum in the NFL is Rams lost Gurley, got to a Super Bowl. Philadelphia won a Super Bowl, no star back. New England, won a Super Bowl, no star backs. Saints, great offense. Just let go of their running back, traded him. Kansas City, cut Kareem Hunt, still got to within a play of the Super Bowl.

Like, momentum's a real thing. Look around the room. You don't need star running backs. Right in front of you. Joy Taylor, with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the.

Heard line news. So you just mentioned it. Ezekiel Elliott is looking for a new contract. And while he is looking for that, he's holding out of training camp as a result. And his training in Cabo. Cabo. Which is something Jason Garrett seems perfectly fine with. No real reaction to that.

We're focused on the guys that we have here and what we need to do to be better every day. You know, what I know about Zeke is Zeeke loves football. Zeke works very hard at playing football. He's competitive. He's passionate. It's had a big impact on our team over the course. course of the last three years. So, you know, we trust him as a player. We trust him as a person, and we'd love to get him back here as soon as he can, and we trust that he's going to be ready

to go. It's a perfect comment from Jason Garrett. He can't focus on Zeke being there or not being there. He's dealt with this before, so it's got to be business as usual. And the rest of the team is probably going to feel that way too. Everyone knows that he's trying to get paid, whether they agree with the timing of it or not, it's just part of the business. It's the, it's the icky part of the business. It's the part of the business that kind of affects your teammates, and it's a cloud that hangs over training camp, and it's a distraction and all those things. But I think most players understand that this is a part of it. It should be noted that running back just happens to be of all the offensive positions,

the one you could show up late in play. You know, offensive linemen, it's symmetry with other players. Quarterback, you need your reps. Wide receivers, a timing position with the quarterback. running back is historically, that's why you'll see this in college football. You can be a great high school running back and you can come into a great program. You'll play as a freshman. Well, it's not that he doesn't know the offense or that he's not comfortable with everything. The only concern that I would have is conditioning.

Yes. And sometimes what you see with guys that hold out in training camp and are training away from everyone is you have those little nagging injuries that pop up at the beginning of the season. Because you're not quite torn here, a little irritated there. and then that drags on for a couple weeks into the season because you're not as loose as everyone else who's been going through training camp. Training camp is what I mean everyone talks about it the same way. It's brutal. It's awful. But that part of it is really necessary.

And that's the only thing that concerns me with him being out. So Tom Brady is participating in his 20th training camp and he hopes he has several more ahead of him. Yesterday, three days before he turns 42 years old, he said he sees no reason why he should be thinking about retiring. I have a great time. I mean, football is, I love the sport. You know, I love playing it since I was a kid. I think, you know, hard for me to imagine doing anything else in life. You know, I love playing ball. So, you know, to still be out here at 41, you know, soon to be 42, it's pretty, it's pretty great for me.

He looks so young. He does look young. It's just, I don't even know. He's also bulked up. Remember, he said he was going to put on some muscle, which kind of worries me. He said that because he wants to be able to absorb hits. Yes. I wanted to get a little bigger this year and put on a few more pounds

and try and absorb the hits a bit more. You know, he's not a big weightlifter guy. He's more, what do you call those bands? The resistance bands? Yeah, he's a real resistance band guy. He's not a big weightlifter. Yeah, I don't like weights either. I told you I did Pilates the other day.

We went and did Pilates. You were sore? Yeah, both of us were like walking like zonis. What is Pilates? It's basically like yoga on a lot. a moving machine. So it's a lot of... What's the point of that?

I mean, it fires up all of, like, your internal muscles. Like, weights build outside muscles and yoga and things that lean you out, build the inside muscles. You know what? Builds my inside muscles. A good steak. A lot of protein. I had one of those last night.

My inside muscles, thank you, Colin. I don't know. Brady's all about that pliability stuff. So he does a lot of yoga and a lot of Pilates, which is good because it's also very good for your joints, which as you get older, you know, obviously that's an important thing. But you think about Tom Brady is, and I was thinking about this the other day, because it's so hard

to transition out of football, what can you imagine Tom Brady doing besides playing football? Like Peyton Manning, we were like, oh, you know, he's going to go into all his businesses, and he could go into broadcasting. It's like, what do you imagine Tom Brady doing? Yeah, I mean, you know, there, I've said this before on the air. I don't need to go too into it. retire to what? Like I don't know, you know, if you hate your job or working.

No, he doesn't need to retire. I'm just saying eventually, one day, you won't play football anymore. Yeah, if you like what you do, I like what I do. If somebody's willing to pay me what I think is a reasonable market rate, why would I stop talking about sports? Why would you stop playing sports? If I was Tom and it hurt, I had bad niece, like Joe Namath at the end, then get out of it. But if you feel good and you're compensated to a high level, just keep being happy.

happy every day. People have been trying to retire Tom Brady for like the last five years. It's exhausting. When he's done, he'll let us know. Finally, two stars that have been pretty immune to the NBA's load management revolution are Russell Westbrook and James Hardin, and one of them has led the league in usage rate in each of the past three seasons. But Darrell Morey wouldn't technically use the term load management during an appearance on the Dan Patrick show, but he did indicate that the Rockets plan to be cautious. Yeah, it always is. We try not to label it or, make it a big deal.

We have a great training staff, and obviously our goal is just to win the title this year. We're not looking for any regular season goals. Everyone on our team's won to every award you can, except the championship. So, yeah, it'll be a very put-together plan by our staff throughout the season to have our guys peak in April. Thank you.

Not that I enjoy this new load management style because it does kind of hurt the fans. finally the Rockets are not concerned about regular season championships. He's saying all the right things. I am so over January headlines. Like, I just don't care about who the best player in the league is in January. Like, stop it. Let's rest your players.

We've appreciated the great regular season basketball from the Rockets. It's not that we don't appreciate. They are a great team and a great regular season team. But it's playoff time that you need to be worried about. Also, it is different. Let me defend Houston on this. their two stars now are heavy. They're smaller players and their heavy usage rate players.

You can make a real analytics argument. They should rest Harden and Westbrook 18 games apiece. Now, now, if you look at the Lakers who have a, let's take Toronto last year, who had their best players were a lot of bigs. They weren't high usage rate guys. You don't have to rest most of those guys. Milwaukee, the same thing. because your star players are, you know, Middleton's a big,

and Janus is a big, Philadelphia is big. They're very young too. But Houston's guys are huge usage rate, smaller players. They need nights off. So I can make an analytic argument that Houston would be smart, more than any team in the league, to be a load management team. Right. And I think that's what Darry is saying.

They are going to come up with a plan to do exactly what you're saying. because both Westbrook and Harden have played a lot of games over the last few seasons, because that's just the kind of players they are. They haven't done load management. And they drive the lane. Yes. They finish at the rim. A very physical.

Collide with bigger. Especially Westbrook. Yes. So, like, I could argue with Houston analytically, I'd rest guys. I'd take them both out 15 games. I think this is a good idea for that. And by the way, with their styles, that's a great way to satiate their offensive numbers a little and not have to always play together.

And bring some balance to it. Yep. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. So yesterday, I got to tell you, Baker Mayfield makes a lot of noise.

Had a beard, cut a beard, mustache, ripping receivers. I kind of like the new story that's out about Baker Mayfield being very critical of his wide receivers. I like this. I have no problem with my receiver, especially for a young football team. Cleveland, the youngest roster in the NFL. I have no problem. Baker Mayfield chewing guys out. This team needs guidance.

This team isn't right now isn't one of the smarter teams. in the league because they got a bunch of 23-year-old kids. This is not a veteran team. This is a team that's going to need Baker-Mayfield to bark at him a lot. I have no problem with the stories coming out. Now, I do think this team stays in the news constantly. The two noisiest teams this offseason have been Oakland. They're trying to sell season tickets in Vegas.

And Cleveland, they like being relevant. They haven't been relevant in 30 years. They're now very relevant. Yesterday, Baker was talking about confronting receivers and barking at receivers. And let's play the tape. Yeah, I'm not jackass. You've got to talk through it. I'm going to harp on it, and then I'm going to talk to them.

Those guys know that that's a big part of our offense. And they know that. It's just the fact that if we get lazy and we let things slide, we need to be over-communicating right now. That's what the good teams do. Like I said, you've got to be on the same page. There's an appreciation from my end that he's able to come communicate and talk through things.

And it's just having that open relationship. Obviously, there's a chance to come in what Freddy says goes, but just being able to talk through things and see it from their perspective or mine is really good. Brown's just moved their camp next to a railroad track, apparently. I like everything he said there. Got standards? Can't let them slip. You got to bark. Totally agree.

And I also think we should allow Baker a little movement here, a little leeway on yelling. This is a really young team with a bunch of new pieces. This is not Brady working with Edelman again or Matt Ryan working with Julio Jones. Young team, new coach, new players, young star quarterback, let him bark. Love this about him. Now, they're way too noisy for me. Oakland's way too noisy for me. I like Indianapolis.

I like the Rams. I like New England. Pittsburgh's been really quiet. And here's the funny thing. When I'm thinking about this this morning with Cleveland, every time I hear a Brown story, all I think about is the Steelers are sitting there going, just keep talking. Just keep talking.

that's all I every time there's a brown story and so I thought today I've said I think Pittsburgh wins the division I think Cleveland finishes second and Cleveland's in a playoff fight at the end of the year whether they make it or not injuries momentum so I thought this morning I would do what we all did as kids and what fans often do I can say I think Pittsburgh's going to win and Cleveland's going to finish second but I'll lay the schedule out I'm going to go through Pittsburgh schedule, and I'll tell you why I think they're going to win the division, I'll go to every game. Here's their schedule.

I think they lose at New England to start. New England's not great in September, but the opening game at night in Foxborough, this is where Belichick, off rest, off buys, open seasons, oh, is great, they lose. Then I think they beat Seattle in Pittsburgh because they have better personnel. I think they go west to San Francisco and get snipped a little. I think San Francisco with Garoppolo and their weapons beats them. I then think they beat the Bengals, Baltimore, and they go to L.A. and beat the Chargers because the stadium will be 50% Steeler fans.

Then I think they come home and beat Miami. They play the Rams and the Colts back to back at home. I think they split. I'm not going to say they beat both. I think they lose to Indy and beat the Rams, although I could flip it. I think Cleveland beats them. It's an 8-20 late Sunday night game, biggest game for the Brown. in the last 20 years, and Cleveland beats Pittsburgh on Sunday night football.

Then I think they beat a bunch of teams. They have the best offensive line, arguably, in the league, and they lean on Cincinnati. They beat Cleveland at home. They beat Arizona. They beat Buffalo. They beat the Jets. Then I think they rest starters against Baltimore on the road, a physical team. They rest some starters.

They've won the division. They get into the playoffs, and they're 11 and 5. That's what I think the Steelers are. I've given you every game. I have them losing at New England, losing at San Francisco, losing one of the two, Colts or Rams at home, losing at Cleveland, and then mailing in week 17, getting healthy for the playoffs. Let's look at Cleveland schedule.

Remember, new head coach, youngest roster in the NFL. I have them losing to Tennessee in the opener. I've said this now for a month. I don't understand the line on this. Tennessee's getting five. They've got a proven head coach, 9-and-7, 9-7, 9-7 last three years. years, second to third best offensive line will neutralize Cleveland's excellent pass rush. I think Tennessee wins the game.

Yell at me, I've already bet it. I think they beat the Jets who are talented but uneven. I think they lose to the Rams at home because I think the Rams have better personnel. I think they have a much better coach in Sean McVeigh. I think they have a more experienced quarterback, and I think the Rams are better than Cleveland. I do think Cleveland then goes to Baltimore and crushes and humiliates the Ravens and are the talk of the league in week four. But they get really high on themselves because they are the youngest team in the league,

go to San Francisco and lose. I think they beat Seattle and then lose back-to-back at New England, at Denver. By the way, yell if you want about Denver. It's the one place in the league Brady has struggled. Young team, high altitude, have them losing. Then I think they get hot. They beat Buffalo, beat Pittsburgh badly at home, beat Miami. I don't think they sweep the Steelers,

so they lose at Pittsburgh close. They beat Cincinnati, they beat Arizona. And remember, I have them losing it home to Baltimore. I believe they're going to humiliate Baltimore early in the year at Baltimore. It's going to be Cleveland's greatest game of the year. They're going to destroy Baltimore and Lamar Jackson. And Baltimore's not going to forget about it. Very well coached John Harbaugh.

Come back and beat Cleveland, upset them in Cleveland. Then they beat Cincinnati, and they're not. nine and seven. Now I know what you're saying. No way we'll lose to Tennessee. Bet your 401k. Tennessee's the game. Big talker. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Go bet it. Bet five grand. Tennessee five points. Better coach. Significantly better offensive line. A proven running team. By the way, Tennessee last year crushed New England, crush Dallas, beat four playoff teams. So that's the game. Remember, new coach, young roster, big expectations, you can yell at that Tennessee game.

I think they lose it. And I think they're real bumpy for about seven weeks. Then the Browns get hot. So there it is. Put it on paper. Hold me to it. That's how I feel. I feel great about it right now. You're very sure about that Tennessee game. I really am. I think it's the upset of the weekend. I don't get the number. Generally every week in Blazing Five, I have a game. There's one game and I always say, I don't, I don't, you know, I'm pretty good on Blazing Five. I've had like 11 straight years of winning. There are games that the numbers, I take a lot of underdogs. That is a very good underdog pick.

Five to five and a half Tennessee. Vrables better than kitchens, more veteran roster, better offensive line. They were a 9 and 7 team last year. They beat four playoff teams, Dallas and New England badly. And they're a weird team that often plays better on the road than at home. And by the way, Mario daughter is healthy, at least for week one. And we know when he's healthy, he's pretty good. Urban Meyer around the corner.

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Well, it's going to be called Big Noon Kickoff each Saturday, debuting here August 31st, each Saturday, 11 a.m. Eastern, Big Noon kickoff, Urban Meyer, Reggie Bush, Brady Quinn, Matt Liner, Rob Stone. Urban Meyer, three national championships, 12 and 3 in bowl games, 187 wins, 32 losses. And remember, he took over programs that were not flying high. He rebuilt programs. He is joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network. Right, Urban, you can't talk about college football without getting to the SEC. In the footprint of that conference, there's a lot of great athletes and a lot of players in Alabama and Georgia right now are the favorites.

You've looked at a lot of film over the last couple of weeks, Bama, Georgia. Do you give an edge to either team? Both have pro-level quarterbacks, Fromm and Tua, both going to end up in the NFL. We have two excellent coaches. When you look at Bama, Georgia, what do you see? Well, I see the two top teams in the SEC, obviously, and all you've got to do is look at the recruiting the last few years. However, you see LSU making a big push with the senior quarterback coming back, Joe Burrow, who actually saw the other day and he looks fantastic, loves his team.

And I think what Dan Mullen's done at Florida, you know, he's as good a quarterback coach as I've ever been around. He has what he thinks is extremely talented guy and Frank's big, big, tall guy that it's time for him to put up those kind of numbers. their only weakness could be the offense line. So it's Alabama, Georgia. The key now is every coach gets ready for camp is stay healthy. Who stays healthy through two days? In my mind of Alabama, Georgia will be the frontrunner in that conference. I was very critical of Nick Sabin, who is a great coach.

But Alabama controls three or four games on their schedule. Nick's got control. Until last week when they scheduled at Wisconsin, I don't see them going on a road enough for big games. I think there's a responsibility as a great program to do it. You went to USC. You went to Oklahoma. You would go on the road regularly.

I think you went to Texas. Your philosophy was Virginia Tech. You took some big swings on the road early. Why did you do it? Well, I let Gene Smith handle the scheduling. We had a very similar philosophy because we were told and was very clear that strength of schedule is going to be a key contributor of who goes to the college football playoff. And I'm not sure.

You know, that's a debate that fan-based. have had, coaches have had, and the scheduling is not the same. However, I was also in the SEC. When I was in the SEC, I got very defensive. We did play Florida State home and away every other year. However, when you just look at that conference top to bottom, that is the strongest conference. So I can understand it, but however, you're seeing attendance, especially with students, start to decline. Scheduling is going to be important. You saw Alabama schedule home and home with, home and away with Wisconsin. Yeah.

So I, and Gene Smith, and I talk to him today, he sees the same thing. He sees big teams because of fan base and also just the right thing to do, starting to schedule some home and aways. When you don't watch a lot of NFL. You've told me that. You're a college guy through and through. There are a number of great programs. In my lifetime, the 10 best programs never all have the right coach.

There's five of them are Haman, three of them are two of them. them aren't working. And there are a couple of big programs right now. USC's a little uneven. There's a lot of pressure on that coaching staff. You have never gone into a year as a coach, probably on the hot seat. But I bet you've had friends and coordinators who have. If you're a program right now, a big dog, a USC, and you got to win early or you know you're in your staff are in trouble, how do you think that plays for a team like USC, which has that burden on top of them to win early or else? Well, I think that all falls on the head coach. And I have been in situations, you know, maybe it wasn't on the outside, but it was on the inside.

You know, in 2013, we actually won 24 straight games, but lost two at the end of the season. And then we lost our second game of Virginia Tech. So that's three out of four. And I felt it, you know, maybe not from the outside, but certainly on the inside. And it's very important because everyone's looking at you. And Jimmy Johnson, you heard it the other day at the seminar, the Fox seminar, is that when you're a coordinator or you're an assistant walking down the hallway, it really doesn't matter. when you're the head coach, everybody is aware you're around. So how you conduct yourself, the confidence level, the urgency,

those are all characteristics of a head coach. And if you're on a hot seat, you know, it's certainly, even if you have to play, you know, act a little bit, you have to show some confidence. You have to give that team something to strive for, and that's the job of a head coach. I think it's the year of the quarterback in college football. Lawrence at Clemson, from at Georgia, Justin Herbert at Oregon, in Tua at Alabama. I want to talk about Tua. There's a little Russell Wilson component here.

He runs around. He is a very difficult guy to get a read on. How do you defend what we see more and more of in college, quarterbacks that can run as well as throw? How would you defend Tua at Alabama? First of all, I'm very biased. I don't think, I think it's hard to defend. If not impossible to defend, you have to just keep it in front of you because if a quarterback executes the RPO or double or triple option, not not necessarily, not the wish bill. and double or triple option. But what they do at Alabama, what we do at Ohio State and other places, is that the quarterback actually has three options.

He can read a first down lineman and run or give. And then once he pulls, he can also throw the ball. So it's really a variation of triple option. And if executed, very, very hard to defend if everybody does their job. So the question always remains, how many times do you allow a guy like Tua, and Ryan Day is going to have the same issue at Ohio State, how many times you allow that player to get hit? because you're a sprained ankle away from potentially ruining your season.

Finally, you look at the Big Ten. I tend to look at offensive lines. I think Michigan has a very good offensive line. When you look at the Big Ten, and I know you just coached Ohio State, a lot of criticism to Harbaugh, haven't won enough big games. Do you feel this is a breakthrough year? He's finally got the offensive line. Jim likes that, offensive guy.

Do you feel like this is the special? year finally for Harbaugh. This will be the best offense line they've had. They have an excellent coach and Warner and their guys have been back. They're big. I noticed the sizes of the guys. I remember them last year and they were much better last year and most of them, I think four out of five are back. That's been their weakness on offense. However, they're changing. Here's what they have. They have three legitimate high draft picks at receiver that, you know, just have not been given those opportunities. They brought in a new coordinator to do that. So it remains on how they're going to transition from a pro style to a spread.

Will it be a true spread? And that often takes time. That takes time to grow and will Coach Harbaugh allowed them the time to grow. It's ironic that this could be their best offense, yet they lose some really, really good players on defense, but they're always going to be good on defense. Yeah. Urban Meyer, 12 and 3 in bowl game show is going to be called the Big Noon kickoff,

August 31st. It debuts. You can smell football. It's around the corner. Urban, it was great seeing you a couple of nights ago at the seminar. great seeing you again. Yeah, good seeing you, Colin. All right. Yeah, I actually think, you know, it's funny. Michigan's a great brand, obviously. I think Jim Harbaugh finally, you know, it takes a while. It just takes a while. I think Harbaugh's finally got his team.

And I thought it was going to be a little bit last year, but Shea Patterson, first year is a starter. Now it's a second year. They've got three NFL offensive linemen. They've got high-end. I think Michigan's got their team. I mean, to me there's about five teams with a chance to really play for the national title. Bama, Clemson, Georgia, Washington, Michigan. To me, that feels like the best five. Those are the five. The schedules work out. The quarterback works out.

The coach works out. The conference, they'll finish at the top. They've got some easy home games, winnable road games. Those five feel like it to me. That's what it feels like. Big noon kickoff, Urban Meyer. Great to have you in. Chris Sims, Greg Jennings, Greg Kosell, all stopped by.

We have a, I'm not going to give it away yet. very rarely, this does not happen in the NFL much, where a great player, not a good player, a great NFL player, is available. Okay. And that great player plays a key position. And there is a Super Bowl-level team that is only missing a left tackle

which this player plays and it could elevate them to the Super Bowl. Trent Williams wants out of Washington. Houston really, in my opinion, only needs a left tackle. That is the albatross. That's the liability. That is the whole for Houston. They won 11 games last year.

We're bad up front. Washington has the player he wants out. Houston needs the player. Washington's looking to rebuild around Duane Haskins. I got a feeling we could have a deal here. Houston, Texans, and Redskins coming up. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week,

within the IHeart Radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Here we go, hour two. This is The Herd, wherever you may be and however you may be listening. We're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, on FS1. We're live, it's L.A. Joy Taylor is joining me. Chris Sims, 15 minutes.

Greg Cosell, Greg Jennings today. Joy, how are you? Doing great. Doing great. That's how I feel. Football's back. By the way, congrats to the Houston Astros. They won the World Series yesterday by getting Zach Grinky.

What did you think about that, Goula? That hurt a little bit, didn't it? Zach Grinkees, like, analytically, I mean, he's got one of the best arms in baseball. Houston, which already has starting pitching, added Zach Grinke. Yankees don't have starting pitching. As a Yankees fan to watch the team that's likely going to beat you in the playoffs get an ace, and the Yankees did nothing. It was not great.

Yankees have all sorts of hitters. Dodgers and Yankees have all sorts of guys that can hit. They don't have great starting. The Dodgers have good starting pitching. They have no pen. Yankees have pretty good pen. They don't have much starting pitching. And Houston's got everything.

Yeah, well, all right. Let's play ball. So Jason Garrett coach of the cowboy. You cowboy fans crack me up. So I was reading Jay Glazer as a mailbag on the athletic. He has a mailbag. People ask questions. He answers him.

And somebody asks him, what coach is on the hot seat in the NFL? And he said, listen, Jason Garrett is the one. without a contract after the year. So it only makes sense. Jay Glazer said, I actually hate hot seat stories. Half the time they don't pan out. End up being inaccurate. Yet we're sitting here talking about a guy in his family,

his kids, his wife, who are going to have to move. I believe it's unfair. But this one's pretty clear. He's a coach without a contract extension. And Jason Garrett never talks about it. It's not his thing. He avoids it. Here's the thing about you cowboy fans.

Somebody's got to be good there. Either your coach or your quarterback. One of them has to be good. And you keep telling me Dax overrated and you keep telling me Jason Garrett's no good. But yet you've been to won the division, two of the last three years, and you've won a playoff game. So who's not, who's the good one? Because I look around the NFL, you've been a playoff team three times and eight years with Jason Garrett.

His record is 72 and 59. They've never had a losing season except the year Tony Romo got hurt. They didn't have a quarterback. So seven of the eight years, he's had a winning season. And you keep telling me he's no good. And you keep telling me Dax overrated. So who's any good? You told me Tony Romo was no good.

Tony Romo is overrated. A deck is overrated. Jason Garrett's no good. Well, how come you always have a winning record? It doesn't work that way. Eight years, one losing season. Somebody has to be good, Dallas. You got to give somebody credit.

I'll give you an example. Generally, this is the way it works in the playoffs. If I gave you all the playoff teams last year, you'd either like both the head coach and the quarterback, or you'd like one. Let's take the chiefs. You like both the coach and the quarterback. Patriots, you like Belichick and Brady.

Texans, I think we all like DeShon Watson. Ravens, I think we all like John Harbaugh. Chargers, we all know Philip Rivers can sling it. We think Anthony Lynn's good, but he's mad to some people. Colts, I like both quarterback coach. Saints, both. Rams, both. Eagles, both. Seahawks, Russell, Wilson, Pete Carroll, both. Bears, I really like the coach.

I'm supposed to believe the Cowboys are the outlier. The coach is no good and the quarterback's overrated. Who's good? You can't win in this league with me at coaching quarterback. It doesn't work that way. You're Cincinnati, right? Like, it doesn't work that way. Somebody has to be good.

So either Dax's good or Jason Garrett's good. And my takeaway is Jason Garrett, outside of the top four or five coaches, can coach with anybody. I don't think he's Andy Reid. I don't think he's Pete Carroll, Belichick. Four or five guys get out. I think Jason's in the mix. I think Anthony Lynn, Jason Garrett, Chargers, Cowboys. They can win games.

I saw him win playoff games. That's pretty good to me. If you win a playoff game, but at some point, somebody's got to be good in Dallas. Because you keep telling me everybody's, here's Jason Garrett talking about his status. He doesn't like talking about it.

To be honest with, I never really think about that. I never thought about that as a player. I don't think about that as a coach. I just come to work every day and try to do the best job that I can do in the position that I have. Very fortunate to do what I love to do

in this great league and this great organization with the people that we have. the coaching staff that we have, the players and support staff that we have. So, you know, I just come and try to embrace that opportunity each and every day and try to contribute as much as I can. Sounds like a happy guy. That's what I'd say. So I saw something yesterday.

Tom Brady in his 20th year, 20th camp, absurd, still looks young, don't really get it. Married to a supermodel. Maybe they go to, like, Brazil, and get a plant, rub it on their face. I don't know. Can't figure it out. I seriously. I was talking to somebody last night and yesterday, and somebody told me about this new thing they do in Hollywood.

It's called the vampire. A vampire facial. A vampire facial. And explain what that is. So I've never had one before. But basically they take blood out of different parts of your body and put it in your face. And it makes you look younger. That's the goal.

The Kardashians are big in this. Yes. So that's the only thing I can figure. I don't know if that's actually what makes the Kardashians look younger. But Kim did it and posted it. You look insane. Like you have red dots all over your face and puffy. But do you look good eventually?

Well, Kim looks good. So I think Brady may be doing that thing because he gets younger. And I can't figure it out. And I was asking somebody the other day about Brady and they said, well, maybe he does a vampire facial. He might. And he's married to his supermodic. So only thing I can figure out because he keeps looking younger. But he said something yesterday when he talked to the media.

I want to play the tape. You know, I appreciate this team and the opportunity it gave me, you know, in 2000. And I play for a great coach, Coach Belichick. And Josh and I have a great working relationship. I love Mr. Kraft and his family. We've had just incredible success. So hopefully we can keep it going. Tom Brady likes his owner.

Yet once again, we'll take a pay cut. Tom Brady is paid like 15th most in the league, yet he likes his owner. Because Tom Brady gets it's not all about the money. The world's about relationships. I never understand when pro players want to call out owners. I don't get it. I've gotten along with my management everywhere I've ever been.

Management has access. Rich people have access. Owners have access. When Kevin Durant was recruited to the Golden State Warriors, Joe Lacob got him in on investments in Silicon Valley. He would not do that for an anti-owner player. He wouldn't have done it. by the way, Jerry Jones historically either helps financially or helps his players in business opportunities.

Baltimore's owner does the same. Bob Kraft does the same. I know. There's some bad owners out there and there's some bad players. They're not good to their families. They'd spend money on luxury items over kids. We've seen a lot of bad players. There's bad dentists.

There's bad teachers. There are bad owners, absolutely. But it's okay to say, I like my owner. Like, he's a good guy. Because most of them, in my history of doing this, are a good guy. Steve Balmer, you'd like him to own your team. You really would. Like, he's going to help you make more money.

Rich people and management have access. Life is way easier when you have access. So it's okay to be befriend it, not be hostile toward it. I know we live in a time now. Colin, sell out. It can be a sellout. It's not selling out to gain access through people who have it more than you do. It's called smart business.

And as players make more money and have bigger macro views on what they want to do politically and business-wise for the world. they live in, one of the easiest ways to get access to new companies and new funds and new ventures and new opportunities, get along with your owner. It's not uncool. It's very cool. It creates harmony. By the way, there are organizations in the NFL, like lots of them.

I'll give you a Buffalo, for example, the Buffalo bills, that are legendary about keeping players on the payroll, paying guys for years to shake hands on Sunday, go to a church, go to a lunch, represent the bills, say nice things. They give them health insurance. They give them a big six-figure salary. Go to golf tournaments. It's a pretty good life. Jim Kelly, he's never been off the payroll in Buffalo.

He's part of the family. What does the NFL OSA? We're family. This is not a shot at the NBA, which is more about independent greatness, mobility, leaving teams. That's their culture. That's their business. That is fine.

more than NFL players. But there is also nothing wrong with the opposite. Liking your owner, befriending him, enjoying the access, Jerry, Kraft, a lot of these guys, they really love their players. They really do. And they get that the players elevate their net worth. These franchises keep going up and up and up and up and up. So I like what Brady said. It's okay. You can, you can consider the owner of family. I'm sure he has a different relationship than most with Yes, it's really special. And specifically Bob Kraft. This is a very unique situation where the coach owner-player have been there in the same situation for 20 years.

No question. But, you know, I talk to Michael Vick sometimes off the air about Andy Reid. And he's like, Andy saved my career. My career was done. Andy made me tens of millions of dollars. I was done. And you're going to find that NFL is very much about relationships. One of the things I like about football is you need your teammates.

You really need them. I mean, LeBron carried a lot of bad teams of the playoffs. And I mean, valeted it, like back on his back, piano, right? Carried it. In the NFL, give Tom Brady a bad old line by he gets hurt. So it's okay. Sometimes the boss is a good guy and you can like your boss. You're not selling out.

You don't have to be lit. You don't have to be cool. Anti-establishment. Sometimes establishment's okay. I mean, just be smart. If it's bad, leave. If it's not, embrace. Pretty simple.

Chris Sims coming up next. NFL, former NFL quarterback NBC Sports. Greg CoSell, Gray Jennings, too. Just starting not halfway home. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.

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Listen to the Clippers show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, fam, Ms. Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying.

He run up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Before I get to Chris Sims, by the way, Julio Jones in the NFL.com list. The players voted him the ninth best player in the NFL. No problem with that.

Great player. Great work ethic. Just been a total pro. He said he will not play in the preseason. I'm not sure if he told the Falcons that, but he has decided he's not playing in the preseason. I back players on this. I don't get the preseason. I think it's bad optics.

The stadiums are empty. I think stars can get hurt. Rams last year said, we're not playing our stars. They got to the Super Bowl. Not a big fan of preseason football. college football's got a bunch of 18-year-olds and they don't get to practice as long and they don't need a bunch of warm-up games.

So a bunch of 32-year-old NFL guys who can practice longer. It's a full-time job. Don't have classes. I don't think they need four warm-up games. I don't love preseason football. I'll watch it. But like today, the Rams and the Chargers

are having a joint scrimmage. I'm a big fan of that. Redskins Ravens, 7, 8, 10, 12 joint scrimmages. I like those. Listen, the number one problem in the NFL you can argue is career length. So you should do anything you can to reverse that trend. Some of the most mythical great stories in the NFL have been the extension of Peyton Manning's career, Brett Farve's career, Tom Brady's career, Drew Bree's career.

These are great stories. The extension of an old veteran quarterback, we want more of those stories. I don't want my players hurt. I don't want my stars hurt. So I'm not a big fan of NFL preseason. Though I will watch it, I'll gain some knowledge. But I feel increasingly there is a momentum towards stars not playing, and I am okay with it. I don't think it's great football, and I don't think generally it's, you know, as player salaries go up, the risk and reward for getting hurt in a meaningless game, the risk of reward now, the scales are unbalanced. The scale dominating is don't play or don't play much.

Chris Sims, NFL analyst, NBC Sports, five years in the NFL, former Patriot coaching assistant joining us on the phone today. By the way, when you were in the NFL, how did high-end? players and marginal players. How do they view preseason? Yeah, well, first off, eight years of NFL. I just want to get that correct. Okay, my bad. That's all right. It's all good. We're still friends. I just don't want you to cheat me out of those last three years. Very important to me, okay? I'm not satisfied with eight years as it is, so I don't want it to go knock down to five. But yes, I mean, you made a great point.

You made all the great points, Colin. I mean, the star players, the guys, first off, in the caliber of class that a Julio Jones is. Like, don't play them. Why would you play them? What do you need to do? You need to see Julio Jones catch a slant route one more time to make sure he's ready for the season. You know, so between him, we see Aaron Rogers, Adrian Peterson in years past,

all those guys. It hasn't hurt them one bit. So I always, you know, there's two different feelings in the locker room. You know, some guys are star players, my feeling just around those guys, not that they didn't want to play. They wanted to play, but only to feel a little bit of the dress rehearsal, right? Just the schedule of the day. Okay, I get in the locker room at this time.

I'm going to get dressed and kind of go through the real game approach. And then, okay, yeah, they might want to play one series just to get a feel of, oh, let me get out here in live action again with people in the stands and all that. But that's all the star players needed. The preseason to what you're saying, the great value is to the guys who are really young, that are still being developed, and the guys who are on the bottom end of the roster, who can maybe show the coaches and the organization something special about themselves to earn a spot on the 53-man roster.

Were you surprised? NFL.com players voted. So this is players who watch film, who sit in meetings, who hear their coaches, break down quarterbacks. Cam was the 14th of 15 quarterbacks that made the top 100. players had Jared Gough above him, Baker above him, Kirk Cousins above him. Did that surprise you? How much did it surprise you? Well, it definitely surprises me. And, you know, again, this is another thing that I think to be noted a little bit.

You know, not everybody's voting on this in the NFL Top 100 in the locker room. Not every football player in the NFL is paying attention to the NFL. That's another thing that I think is a little bit unknown. I mean, a lot of guys just play football. They go home. They kind of know what's going on in the league. but they're not into like, oh, I'm going to sit down on the couch and watch the Sunday night football game on NBC or watch the Monday night game the next week.

They know who wins the next day, but they're not like as invested as maybe you or I are, who we don't want to miss one snap. And then you talk about the film room and all those things. Yeah, but some guys in the league go a few years without seeing another guy on film for a long time. One of the reasons I'm friends with a lot of my coach friends in the NFL, because they like to call me like Week 10 through the NFL, because all they've seen on film is the teams they're going to play and their own team. And they call me to talk about ball and what's going on in the rest of the league

and what's this team look like. So let's not think that every football player has a great gauge of what's really going on in the NFL. I am surprised by that low of a ranking. I mean, Cam Newton, to me, is a top 10 quarterback in football. And stats do not, they can't quantify the greatness of a Cam Newton, Colin. You know, again, think about the team in the situation he plays for. he's never had great talent around about the wide receiver position. They've always been into, we're going to kind of play defense and control the ball.

So the passing numbers are never going to be sexy when your team mantra is that of what it is in Carolina. But the stats also don't justify all the problems that Cam Newton gives a defense on a week-to-week basis. Okay, we got to play Cam Newton this week. We've got to protect all the field down the field because he can throw 50-yard lasers down the field. Oh, gosh. Man, the Carolina Panthers, oh gosh, Cam Newton keeps the ball. The quarterback design runs around the edge. Oh, the Reed option plays.

The play action passes. Then the normal running game. So he puts the defense in a severe handicap position because of his skill set before the game even starts. That's the greatness of Cam Newton. He's impossible to prepare for that way. He's a unique skill set. And any time number one's on the field for the Carolina Panthers, they got a chance to win the game. When he's healthy, of course.

Yeah, which increasingly has not been. I always think noise is bad for the NFL. I think it's part of the NBA. But the NBA is everything from basketball theater to political theater to fashion theater. NBA is a different culture. NFL noise is usually a distraction. Cleveland is really talented and, God, they're in the news every single day. Does any of that worry you?

It worries me, you know, just the fact that not right now. You know, they're in the news right now with noise, but they're not causing the noise. And if it is a little noise right now, it's, what, some great clips about, you know, Baker Mayfield talking that he's not going to be a jackass. I'm not going to be a jackass. Of course, I'm going to talk to these guys. So it's the right thing, at least from the team right now. They're playing football.

Oh, there's a story about Baker Mayfield yelling at the wide receivers. Okay, great. Baker Mayfield, we know he's got phenomenal people skills and leadership skills, and I'm sure he felt like, you know, he's got the right relationship that he can yell at his receivers during practice and they won't take it personal and it's all about getting better. But no, the only thing I worry about with Cleveland is not right now, but, ooh, if things get off to a slow start,

and all of a sudden we're 2 and 4, 2 and 5, it is a young team. Will it implode or will they be able to bounce back and make themselves a viable playoff threat once again? Those are the things we've got to see because winning in the NFL, you guys, you hear that a lot. lot, right? Like that phrase, like it's not easy to win a game in the NFL or you have to learn to win football games. It's very true. Managing situations, certain games, playing those situations

the right way, it all goes into winning football games. It's not easy. That's why it's amazing what New England does. New England hasn't lucked into 18 or 19 years of greatness. They're all over, all these little situations, these little things that we maybe overlook on a Monday afternoon that went into winning the game on Sunday. And Cleveland is not battle tested with that kind of stuff quite yet. People sometimes forget that Aaron Rogers sat for three years, that players get better. They don't come into the NFL as a refund.

We know this in basketball, where we see LeBron get significantly better year two to year seven. But in football, it's the same thing. Dak Prescott was seven and one in his last eight games last year against four playoff teams. Completion percentage over 70. I know he's the first round. pick, but let's not forget, he's a kid.

That's a lot of practice with NFL coaches, not Mississippi State. Are we undervaluing, DAC? I mean, for most of his career, it's been he's overrated. Is it possible the light went on late last year when he got a legit receiver and that he's actually now better than we think and deserves a lot of money? I'm with what you're saying right there, Colin. Yeah, no, he's a franchise quarterback.

he's a $30 million a year quarterback. You know, again, if Jimmy Garoppolo is making 27.5, then damn, I know Dak Prescott deserves to make more money than that. He's proven himself more than Jimmy Garoppolo at this point. You know, so he's certainly in that range. I would expect when all said and done, he gets a contract that maybe just one-up, a Carson Wentz or something along those lines. You know, you said it, and I think you're spot on.

First off, you know, that's not an offense that's very easy on the quarterback. there in Dallas. Again, I don't think we can quite quantify everything he brings to the table. Great leader, you know, tough as hell on the field, makes plays when nothing's there. There's a reason they fired their offensive coordinator and got a new one this year because, damn, they never change a formation, they never motion, they never shift. I mean, I could sit there and watch film if we sat there together the last few years and I'd go, oh, during this formation, Colin, watch, this play's going to come. I guarantee it. And I would be right eight out of ten times. Very predictable offense. Also, not easy.

playing a quarterback in an offense that's always about the run game. You know, hey, rhythm. The reason we talk about rhythm and timing and doing things like that is because it is important for a quarterback. And it's not always easy to play a quarterback on a football team that's run left, run right, run left, run right. Oh, you know, it's third and ten now. We'd like you to hit the pass perfectly, even though we haven't had you throw a ball in five

minutes. That's not always easy. And Dak Prescott delivers more times than not. and he showed with a little talent around him that he can make plays. And Colin, I'm big and do, you know, what's there to be had? Do you take advantage of it? And then when nothing is there to be had, what do you do? And you talked about what his record was against the playoff team.

You watched the divisional game against the Los Angeles Rams. Not a lot of people open. They couldn't run the ball. Dak Prescott, making runs for touchdowns, scrambling to the left, making a big throw down the left sideline. So I do think he kind of took that next step. solidified himself as a franchise quarterback in the NFL. Eight years in the league, former quarterback, Chris Sims, NBC Sports. Love having you on, buddy.

Have a good weekend. You too, buddy. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. You bet Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

So the Browns are unquestionably Baker Mayfield's team now. Yes, they are. And during the first few training camp practices, he's shown he's not afraid of anything, even confronting his own top receivers. like confrontation. Those guys know that that's a big part of our offense. And they know that. It's just the fact that if we get lazy and we let things slide,

we need to be over communicating right now. That's what the good teams do. There's an appreciation for mine that, you know, he's able to come communicate and talk through things. And it's just having that open relationship. Obviously there's a chance to come in where Freddie says goes, but just being able to talk through things and see it from their perspective or mine is really good.

Boy, I'm starting to like this kid. I like that. That's what I want to, that's like what grownups say. That's what grownups say right there. Chain and command the coach, but sometimes I got to bark. I like that guy. Look, he's totally right. And this is not one of the situations like Big Ben, where he went on his radio show and after Big Lost, didn't take responsibility for it and passed the buck. This is completely different. He's not publicly calling out his receivers. What they discussed, we don't know. What the issue was, we don't know. We just know that they were speaking loudly at each other, which is what's supposed to happen. This is training camp. It's high intensity. It's getting ready for the season. It's not passive aggressive.

It's just aggressive, as it should be. And when there's a mutual respect there, the tone of your voice and how aggressive you're being is blocked out. And that's what's really important. If you don't respect someone and they're yelling at you, you're going to yell back and then it's going to become confrontational. If I get eight more press conferences like that, I'm going to start to really like this guy. You need to eight more? I need a few more. I've had some that drove me.

He had his hat on backwards. Not a fan of that. It's going to keep him out of the Super Bowl. It blocks his face. He's doing interviews. The word part I like. Well, so was that beard. It didn't seem to bother him.

A beard is gone. You don't like the stash? I don't want my... Come on. This is not a 70s cop film. Like, get rid of the stash. I want to see your face. I'm going to find some other pictures of some other quarterbacks of stashes and see if that opinion holds up.

All right. So what a difference couple off seasons can make? After 2016, the Eagles had a serious receipts. receiving core problem. Now in 2019, they can be dubbed as the NFL's best, which is what pro football focus did. You love pro football focus. I don't love this. They have great tight ends. And they're counting tight ends. They're counting tight ends and running back. So the full pro football focus list is the Eagles at number one, followed by the Falcons, Rams, Chiefs, Texans, Browns, Buccaneers, Vikings, and Chargers in that order. I don't disagree with it. Philadelphia's

receiving corps is not the best in the NFL. It's not. I think Atlanta is. Atlanta's very good. Well, Rams is good. Chargers is good. They had Hunter Henry back. So, Kansas Cities is great. There's a lot of great ones. But you just think the Eagles is... No, I think they're receiving core's average. I think when you count Zach

Earth and, you know... I mean, but that is part of... Yeah. They didn't say just receivers. But they're saying, well, it says 2019 Eagles receiving core. That usually means wide receiving core. I don't like that... It's expanded. Yeah, I don't like the headline. If you're asking me, do they have a bunch of guys that can catch?

So would you say offensive weapons? Would that be a better title for it? And then you would keep them at the top or no? No, but I'd have them top five. But you just tell me, wide receiving court, it's not a top five wide receiving court. I don't know. It's pretty good. Chargers is better.

The Falcons is very good also. Falcons is very good. Let me think of a couple. I can think of a couple. I mean, so you widely don't agree with this list. San Francisco's now is pretty interesting. You'd put them in the top nine? For receiving core?

No. For offensive weapons. Yes. Yes. But that's what the title should say. It doesn't. If it said top offensive weapons, I think they're like five or six. Okay.

So finally, the Lakers introduced their new coaching staff yesterday, and Frank Vogel said he is not worried about Jason Kidd undermining him. That makes one of us. But what about LeBron? Because he has been notorious with having issues with first year coaches. And this is what he said. Yes, he has. I did feel support right from the start from LeBron.

He's always shown me a great deal of respect. Heading back to our battles when I was in Indiana and competing with the heat in the conference finals and coaching him in the All-Star game. He's always shown me a great deal of respect. So I felt like there would be a lot of support and there was immediately. And that's continued on through up to this point.

And hopefully we can work together to build some something special. Sounds optimistic. We know that LeBron has had issues with some coaches in the past. Mike Brown, Spolstra, obviously David Blatt, Luke Walton, and he had some clashes with Tailu before they figured it out. But probably most notoriously was Eric Spolstra because he really was not getting along with him and they stuck with him and it all worked out.

I think he does have respect for Vogel because he did have some battles against his teams. Roy Hibbert. Those were interesting games. They were a great and great series. So I do think they clearly have a prior relationship, which is good. I think that it will be very interesting to see how LeBron approaches this year entirely because he's coming up his first major injury. It was a colossal failure and breakdown last year.

They have to establish a new culture. You've got your pieces around you, so there's no more excuses about what you can do on the court. And he's going into a new phase of his career. So I don't think that they have time to have clashes with the coaching staff. as he's been in the past. You know who Vogel, you know who should love Vogel is Anthony Davis. Frank's been pretty good with Biggs. So this actually, if I was Anthony Davis, this is one of the four or five guys I'd like.

He's worked now how he makes the pieces all work. But Anthony Davis is, I'm really more than anything with the Lakers. I want to see LeBron with another big. I want to see how it works. And how Kuzma is going to emerge in another year. Yeah. Good stuff. Joy with the News. Well, that's the news.

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I'm taking it today. The same flight, the same time to the same place all year. Well, yeah, I mean, because you're going because you go to the same place a lot. Like that makes sense. But like if you have to fly around the country, don't you have to take the best flight at the time that's available? I always did. I took the best. But I like, I'm a Delta guy. Yeah, man.

Once you get those medalli, that medallion status and platinum, it's like you can't beat it. So you have to get somewhere and the only. flight available was on a certain airline? You're not going to fly it? No, I will, but my preference, if there's a Delta option, I'm taking Delta. Delta, Delta pilots are former military guys. Like, they, those guys can go loop-de-loops around mountains. Delta pilots are good pilots. Obviously, I don't know that type of intel. I don't have that insult. By the way, what do you make, you were a grinder. You didn't go to, like, Texas and Alabama. You were a grinder. What do you make about these guys not wanting to play in the preseason anymore? Are you okay with that?

I am. I am because I was a grinder, but no one wants to play in the preseason. You didn't like it? No, just because when you're a starter and when you've proven yourself in this league, and I know teams always go into the regular season saying, or training camp saying everybody's vying for a spot. And that's a bunch of baloney. But when you've proven that you are who you are, it's like I don't want to risk my body an injury for a game that means.

nothing. Yeah, I get it. So covering the Falcons last year, I went to training camp and I was talking to the head coach Quinn and and he was telling me about how he approaches his guys and Julio Jones and Devante Freeman, those are guys that he's like, they're not playing in the preseason.

They're not going to take a snap. Yeah. But I trust the way they practice. They practice hard. We practice at a pace to where I can make sure I see what I need to see that they'll be ready come week one. By the way, it's just like parents. would trust my daughter right now over my son with money. That's not that I say I don't trust my son,

but even with parents, there's certain kids you trust during certain things, ages, maturity levels. It's the same for a coach. There's some guys, veteran guy, he'll come in shape, I trust him. Yeah. You know, Jimmy Johnson didn't treat Troy Aikman like he would treat other players. Like, there's some guys that earn respect over years like Julio. He comes to camp in shape. I don't need snaps and preseason games. Absolutely. By the way, it's funny about the Browns. So the Browns have a very good roster. Nobody's disputing that. They're really young, the youngest team in the league. Go back to your career. Go to the oldest team roster you were on. Go to the youngest roster. Give me the advantages and disadvantages to being on a roster like Cleveland,

super young, really talented. Well, for the longest period of time, my time in Green Bay, we were the youngest roster for like my first four years. We had the youngest roster in the National Football League. because of that it was kind of a roller coaster but what i noticed was we had no care of the moment it was we were going to be who we were we didn't have we didn't care what everybody else was saying because there was this level of unknown we had a couple guys that had done it but we didn't have enough of those guys where it tended to jump on us was in the waning moments of the game. We lost a ton of closed games those early years. We didn't know how to finish.

Yeah, why would you? Because we hadn't been in those situations. We hadn't gained that experience on what it takes in the fourth quarter to close out an opponent, to shut the door, to put the nail in the coffin. That's where New England's so good. Yes. They understand how to finish and close games. Right. No, there's no question about that. That's, you know, I don't see Cleveland as a great team this year. I think they're a great young roster, but I think it's very fair. I do see them in a bunch of close games against the older teams, the Rams, the Steelers, older teams, and there is an advantage there. Okay, so yesterday, the NFL.com, the players vote on the best hundred players in the league. And the quarterback list had Kirk Cousins above Cam, I don't, Baker above Cam, I get it,

Goff above Cam, I do. So here is the order of players. Now, it's not one through 15. Right. So 15 guys made it. Dak didn't make it. Derek Carr didn't make it. I think Derek Carr's in my top 15.

Bottom half, but I like Derek Carr more than most. Mariotta didn't make it. Donald hasn't done much. Didn't make it. So it goes, Breeze Mahomes, Brady Rogers, Rivers Luck, Wilson, Goff, Ben Baker, Watson, Ryan, Kirk, Cam, Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz, a lot of injuries. I think he's better than that.

Garopolo's not in it either. If I said to you, there's one that doesn't feel right. Which one would it be? I mean, I feel like you're going with Cam. No, no, no, no, that's me. I think Kirk Cousins is a little high. And, Cam... Personally, I would say the Kirk Cousins.

For me, I don't see Kurt Cousins there. Simply because has he had success? Statistically, yes. But he hasn't had the wins. and I think when you're talking about quarterbacks, we always put the win column attached to our quarterbacks. Right, right.

How they won. And Kirk Cousins just hasn't been able to prove that. These other guys, the Sean Watson obviously hasn't done it, Baker Mayfield, but they have that wow factor. They have that impact to where they elevate the guys around them. No question. They're not elevated because of the guys that you put around them.

And I think that's where the Kurt Cousins and even the Dack Prescott's, they struggle to make a list like this or they're on the back end of it because the guys around them make them better. And that's the Cam Newton one is surprising to me because I think he should be higher personally. I always thought players loved him. They do. He's very Westbrook. They do, but he takes us on a roller coaster every year.

From year to year, we don't know which Cam we're going to get. And it's kind of unfair because his personnel around him has always been inconsistent. There hasn't been this constant level of, no, hear me out. Receiving Corps. They thought they had a number one guy. He ends up not being that guy. They ship him off to Buffalo. Then he's pieced together with just a group of guys.

But it was just for a period of time. And so then they all spread out and go different places. So there's always been this revolving door of personnel that he's had to grow chemistry and a rapport with that's been a little unfair. When you're thinking about a guy that holds that type of responsibility, you want to have staples around him. And I don't think the Carolina Panthers have done that. I think they're trying to get better at it.

When is he responsible? Oh, he's always responsible. What about Devin Funches? What if he goes to Andrew Luck this year and has 80 catches? Look, I was there in camp last year. I watched Devin Funches. I watched the potential. I called the game against Atlanta Falcons.

Devin Funches had probably three crucial drops. I mean, in the bread basket. And I'm not saying I never drop balls, but you do. Devin Funches was not progressing into the player that we all thought and hoped that he could be for Cam Newton. And obviously, the Carolina Panthers didn't see that either. And so you part ways. Can he continue to have a successful career? Of course.

But a new scene presents new opportunities, and we'll see if it presents a new player. and then funches. Jay Glazer yesterday said in his mailbag that he hates the hot seat term for coaches, but Garrett's on it, doesn't have it more than this year on his contract. When you were in the league, how was Jason Garrett viewed? Kind of like how he's viewed now. He was a guy that was in a role that was just he didn't have the leverage. He didn't have the power.

He didn't have the say. he was just filling a role of head coach. Like every team has to have a head coach. Let's put Jason Gerd there. And so when I look at what Jay Glazer is saying, I agree. I believe he is on the hot seat. And it's because he's been there for so long

and he's had talent. He's had seasons where he's had success, but it wasn't the amount of success that the Dallas Cowboys would say, applause. That's a winning season. That's a win year. And so your leash is a lot shorter. And he's the only one that the progress, the development stage, it's over. Dak Prescott, you're still a young quarterback. We can grow with you. We're developing. We still trust that you're going to be our future. You look at a team in Golden State Warriors with coach Mark Jackson. I love Mark Jackson. But they hit a wall. They hit a wall. He could only take them so far. And then they,

insert Steve Kerr and it's like oh my gosh look at this team well Mark Jackson had the same team but sometimes your approach your scheme the way guys start to buy in is different when you just plug in and take out one piece and sometimes that piece is the head coach

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and get people all the time in the grocery store to car wash. They love Greg CoSell. So before we get to our NFL stuff, because you got some really good breakdowns on film, you, yesterday after you were on, after the show, handed me a pamphlet, and you said, I love this, and you said, okay, I've graded all the college guys. I've looked at all the tape. So let's go through them. Let's go through the guy I think is the best prospect since Andrew Luck,

Trevor Lawrence at Clemson. what does the film say on Trevor Lawrence? Well, I've got it right here, Colin. I figured, you know, since I gave it to you, we would go to it. We would go to the material here because I watched, let's see, I watched three, four games on Lawrence, okay, obviously later in the season.

And he showed the attributes that bode really well. Now, he's got to play another year, another two years, actually. But the thing that really stood out to me, and I made this note, and I kind of highlighted it, was poise and composure in the pocket, really impressive for a young quarterback. because he's essentially a pocket quarterback.

And the other thing that I think is absolutely critical, we'll talk about this with that Prescott as well when we get to that, but his willingness to turn it loose. I think when a young quarterback has that willingness, Colin, that's something that's really important. Because to be a high-level NFL quarterback, there are times in every game where you've got to make difficult throws into tight windows, whether it's versus zone,

whether it's man and there's a small area to place the ball, Trevor Lawrence showed the willingness to do that, and I think that's so critical as he develops. By the way, that was Andrew Luck. There's a let it rip component. You throw some picks early. Peyton Manning would let it rip. You're going to, Big Ben with Let it Rip, Philip Rivers.

He's going to throw some picks. But that confidence to say, I trust my instincts, I trust my arm. I'm going to let it go. Elway, by the way, people forgot. Through a lot of early picks. Oh, I remember through his first 9, 10 years, he had actually more interceptions than touchdowns. And I think Jim Fossel, it might have been 1993, came in as the offensive coordinator with a different system in L.A's numbers then really improved dramatically.

Okay, a player that I don't like as much as everybody else, too, at Alabama. I think he's going to be a pro. I think he's very much out of the stock of Russell Wilson. I don't think he's Russell Wilson. Everybody loves him. I think he's good. I don't think he's a great prospect. What do you think?

I watched a lot of him because I think he's going to be polarizing when all said and done. And obviously he has another year. keep in mind that they ran a ton of RPO's run-pass option. Almost 30% of their plays were RPO's. And RPO's are more effective in college than they are in the NFL because of the symmetry of the field. The hash marks are wider. There's more space because, as you know, Colin,

the wide side of the field in college is extremely wide, very difficult to cover. So RPO's in college football are really difficult. So I thought, too, it was very, very good in some ways, programmed. And I think everything was well defined for him. The reads were defined. The throws were defined. That's not the NFL. They're trying to do more of that, but it's obviously not the way it is all the time in the NFL. So I think this is an important year for him. I know people say he's the automatic number one pick. I don't get caught up in that. I think there are some things he's got to do better. He's a little bit of a pusher the way he throws. He doesn't really torque with his core. So he's not a

drive thrower. He does throw a good deep ball, but I think there's things to watch this year that he needs to improve on. Okay, Jake Fromm at Georgia, I actually like him more as a pro prospect. Yeah, and he's one of those guys that I think's going to be better when he gets to the NFL. Now, again, he's in

a very structured system as well. You know, when you get defensive head coaches and a place like Georgia where they have great defensive players and great defensive talent, and they play with Fromm under center, they may tell him, hey, we don't want to be real aggressive throwing the ball. We don't know that. I certainly don't know that. He was a little cautious,

but I think he throws the ball well, doesn't have a gun. It'll be interesting how he's seen when he comes out. Will people say, oh, he's just a system guy who operates a system? But when all said and done, that's what all NFL passing games are. Every coach has a system, and they want the quarterback to execute the system within the structure of it. Oregon has a kid named Justin Herbert. I don't like the swings home and away can be great at home so so so on the road. That worries me. Leaders went on the road. But a talent, he is a huge talent.

Oh, Colin, I watched his 2017 tape last summer because I just assumed he would come out and he decided to stay. So now I've watched some games from 2018 as well. And he is what you look for. He's big. He's athletic. Big arm can make every throw. Oh, look at that throw. Can make second reaction plays.

I mean, this kid is really, really good. I mean, he's mobile, too. He can run. Yes, and he's probably, I guess he'll probably be 6.5, 230, 235. God, he's got an arm. He has everything that you look for. I said after 2017 when I watched his tape that if he came out this past year, he could be a top five pick, and obviously he chose not to come out.

Now, I don't know anything about the kid. That's the thing you don't know, and I certainly don't know, but just talent and ability. he's got top five talent yeah he jumps he makes a throw here i'll show it uh that corner throw he makes it an absolute rifle i worry about leadership i hear things about leadership i don't love but a talent now let's throw one more out there this was your curveball yesterday this is the guy this is our carson wence nobody nobody hears about him and you go out and go there's this kid in north dakota so jordan love at utah state yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna to my notes on this one as well, because here's

what I said. I said that he has the overall skill set to be in the discussion for a top five pick in the 2020 draft. He's got arm strength, he's got pace and touch, he threw with precise ball placement, he's a big kid. He's got athleticism and movement, he's got secondary action ability. He's a

natural thrower, Colin. He's an over-the-top thrower. You don't see a lot of over-the-top throwers. I found this kid to be very, very impressive on film, and what I loved about watching him, Colin, he was virgin territory for me. Someone told me about him.

I didn't really know anything about him. So when I put the tape on, I was starting totally from scratch. He's my new number one. Off this 38 second clip. I'll tell you what, he looks, the way he throws the ball, that's like an NFL quarterback. Oh, without question. He looks like an NFL quarterback. He looks the part for sure.

As you can see, he's a very comfortable, easy thrower of the football. Hey, Wentz played in the middle of nowhere. Josh Allen played at Wyoming. John's saying in my ear, how do you get to Utah State? There's a lot of good quarterback. You know, this whole seven-on-seven stuff in high school now. Without question. There's just a bunch of good players.

And guess what? He gets to start at Utah State, not back up in Oklahoma. And I never, even with Wentz, we talked, a lot of people said, well, he played in North Dakota State, so I can't draft him high. My response to that is, so if it takes an extra two or three months, what's the difference? If you think the guy is going to be great, what cares? What's the difference if it takes an extra two or three months? Right. Let's go to the NFL.

Yeah. Patrick Mahomes, got to sit for a year. Came out last year, all sorts of records. He is a unique armed talent. Unique. Do you think it just keeps going? Well, the numbers, I don't know if he throws 50 touchdowns every year. That's not the point. I was kind of pleased, because this is what I saw on tape,

I was kind of pleased to hear Patrick Mahomes admit that what he needs to work on this offseason and through training camp is he needs to work on his footwork and he needs to become more precise. Do you agree? Yes, 100%. Now, again, Mahomes is like Aaron Ryder's. in the sense that you always feel like you have to qualify everything you say with he's a great talent. Well, we know he's a great talent. That doesn't mean there's nothing to work on. Thanks, that's right. That's right. So what he needs to work on is to become more precise and more

efficient with his footwork, his dropback, running the system as it is. You can't, in my view, maybe I'm wrong, but in my view, you can't live on secondary action plays. That's not the nature of the NFL. He is obviously good enough to sit in the pocket and make every single throw, but he's well aware that he needed to work on his footwork and his timing with the route concepts. Yeah. And Andy reads a good teacher. Without question.

Yeah. Let's talk about Jimmy G. Joey and I always talk about this. If Carson Wentzer Jimmy G. get hurt again, you start having people in the organization go, we got a problem here. Yeah. Jimmy G. has now been hurt twice.

The last time he got hurt, he didn't get hit. So I like him. I would say, I'll just throw this out. I think his build and. athletic ability reminds me of Trabiski, but I think he's a much better thrower. He is a better thrower. I like him a lot. Am I overheating here a little bit? Well, I think one thing people have to keep in mind is he started 10 games in the NFL. It seems like he's been around forever. He started 10 games. So he hasn't even started a full season. So we have to understand that. Now,

he's in a great system. Kyle Shanahan is as good as there is in the league at defining throws for quarterback. Now explain that to my audience. What does that mean? It means that the route concepts, based on the drop, present the primary throw. Clearly for the quarterback. Quarterback has a very easy roadmap on where to throw it. Relatively speaking. Nothing is easy in the NFL, but relatively speaking. It's why Nick Mullins could go in last year and be functionally efficient,

because the offense presents the throws with the route concepts, the protection, the quarterback's drop. So Kyle Shanahan does a great job of that. where I think that Jimmy Garoppolo needs improvement is a couple of areas. Number one, he can tend to play a little fast in the pocket, get his feet moving a little too much. That's a very young quarterback like, that happens a lot. And because he has that whip-like delivery, that's great, but then he makes a lot of throws off balance, and the ball placement is not as precise as it needs to be.

That's one area he needs work. The other area, and I think this is because of the way he throws, knowing that he's got that whip delivery and a quick delivery, is there are times he just waits a beat too long, and the throw in the NFL, if you wait a beat too long, is late. And late in the NFL, and we're talking millisecond late in the NFL is late, and that causes problems. Does he struggle reading? I think the term I use, everybody likes to use the word process.

I use the phrase elimination and isolation. In other words, eliminate what's not there and isolate what is there within the timing of the drop and the route concepts. I think he needs work in that area as well. Let's talk some Dak Prescott before we get to the big play. He was 7 and 1 down the stretch against four playoff teams. Young people get better. You do reach at some point as a professional athlete, 27, 28.

Your game is sort of your game. Right. And then you just try to hold on to the big. So going into his fourth year, though. He's a kid. So I watched him at the end of the year, and my takeaway was completed 71% of his throws. He's not a gifted Trevor Lauren. Vince Ball whips off his hands.

Right. But there's something there. He got better. I think the way I talk about Prescott, and I knew because of the contract situation, that I'd watch a lot of him. So I did this summer. I watched a lot of Dak Prescott from last year. I think one of the areas that he needs to get better at, and I don't know if this is in his DNA or I don't know if it's something that can be improved, he tends to be a very cautious thrower. Now, that works when your offense is built around Ezekiel Elliott and you your defense is playing really well. He's not a turn it loose guy.

So he lacks a little confidence in his arm. Now, I don't know. I don't know the reason for it. You know, he'd have to tell you that. We don't know the answer to that. The film tells you that there are throws that are there to be made that he doesn't often pull the trigger on and maybe he checks it down. Or maybe he leaves the pocket. But he tends to be a cautious thrower.

Now, as I said, that works within the structure of the team. We'll see how the Ezekiel Elliott situation will play out. maybe Jerry Jones and the staff believe, hey, he's in his fourth year. We're now going to put more on Dak Prescott's plate, and we're going to ask him to take that next step and be an aggressive thrower that's going to be the foundation of what we do offensively as opposed to a puzzle piece. The tape up to this point doesn't show him being that guy, but he's going into his fourth year. It's not as if he's a seven, eight, nine year veteran. So let's go to the big play of the week. So let's break down some real film on deck.

Right. Well, what I chose, I chose a play that was against the Giants last year. A game he didn't even need to play, but they opened with the Giants Week 1. So I thought it made sense. And it was a touchdown pass to Blake Jarwin from the high red zone, meaning the 10 to 20 yard line. It was a 19-yard touchdown. So let's take a look at the touchdown, and then we can break it down. He threw this touchdown to Jarwin.

Jarlane actually caught three touchdowns in this game. They were in an empty set, Colin, where there's no backs in the backfield. So what they did here, they faced a Giants defense. They knew they were going to get Cover 2. Now, the player at the bottom of the screen is not really a safety, but in Cover 2, the player who's the middle linebacker, and here it's a defensive back, but what he's going to do is he's going to open up to the passing strength. There's three receivers to the wide side of the field.

That's the passing strength. It's third and nine. So number three is going to attack him. and make him have to defend him because he does not want to give up a nine-yard completion for a first down. So they control the middle linebacker. Now, what that does is that's going to allow Blake Jarwin, whose receiver number two, to work behind, and they're going to, in a sense, high-low that middle linebacker.

So the middle linebacker sits at the first down marker, and there goes Blake Jarwin behind him. So they're defining the throw for Prescott against Cover 2. It's an excellent throw, really well designed. It's what we call a high-low concept against Cover 2. Really well done, really nice throw. And I was going to say, great velocity, throws it high enough. Firm touch, that's the term I would use.

You're not driving the ball because you don't want to throw it right at the middle linebacker. It's firm touch. That's a throw that every NFL quarterback, that kind of throw, has to be able to make to succeed in the league. Got smarter. That's why have a great weekend. I'm off tomorrow. Good for you.

You're doing red eye back home. I'm taking the red eye back home. Can you sleep on planes? We're actually going to a concert tomorrow. What are you going to stay away? I'm going to see Hart. Seattle. The Wilson sisters.

I always wanted to see Hart. You know, who didn't love the heart when you were 22 years old? Everybody. I mean, come on. Look it up. It's a Seattle-based band. Heart. I think it's a Wilson sister.

The Wilson's Ann and Nancy Wilson. Look at that. This thing never stops working up here. Hey, come on. Classic rock, you gotta love it. Yeah. Greg CoSell, Joy with the News. Thanks, man.

No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. You think are just, just concert ragers these days, huh? I went to Keith Urban last week. Yeah. Well, what about you? Concerts is a lot of people at concerts.

You don't like concerts? A lot of people, you know? What do you mean? It's just, I'm very picky with the amount of time I spend around a lot of people. I didn't know that about you? Yeah, I just, strangers. The last concert I went. went to was I think we went to Jay-Z.

I think that was the last concert. So you don't like people? I just limit the amount of time around a bunch of people. Okay. So Ziciel Elliott is looking for a new contract, and he's holding out of training camp as a result in his training in Cabo, which is something that Jason Garrett seems perfectly fine with. No real reaction to that.

We're focused on the guys that we have here and what we need to do to be better every day. You know, what I know about Zique is Zeeke loves football, and Zeeke works very hard. I play in football. He's competitive. He's passionate. It's had a big impact on our team over the course of the last three years. So, you know, we trust him as a player. We trust him as a person. And we'd love to get him back here as soon as he can. And we trust that he's going to be ready to go. I'd hate to be the coach of the Cowboys now because you know the first three questions. It's going to be about Zeeq's contract. Yeah. And they're ready for it. And that's, Jason Garrett's not concerned about that right now.

Like that can't be his focus. What's going on with Zeeke's contract. That's not for him to figure out anyway. So he can only focus on what's there. And I mean, I'm sure they don't love him being in Cabo, but this is what Zeke does. I wish the Zeke was not in Cabo because I don't think that the optics of it are great. I'm not saying that he's not working out there. I'm just saying training camp is supposed to be this very strenuous, tiring, get you in shape. Well, Mexico, for us in America, when we see somebody in Mexico, it is usually eating and drinking and laying in the sun. We don't picture it as a workout regimen.

Right. It's vacation. Yes. It's relaxing. Blava smoothies. Yes. So the optics are he screwing off, but the truth is. I don't think he is down there screwing off, but it's not the same kind of workout you're going to get being in training camp.

That's just, that's not debatable. Beyonce is the last concert I went to. How many years ago was that? That was this year. Yeah. All right. Because you love music. I do love music.

Yeah. These are like people. Well, I mean, it's just, it's a lot, right? Like going to a football game. You have to be mentally prepared to go to a football game. You have to be mentally prepared to go to a concert. And you didn't really go to like a concert concert. You went to like a private show.

But it was music. Yes. I had to withstand at least 24 people. It was not a Beyonce concert in an arena. So Tom Brady is participating in his 20th training camp, 20th training camp. And he hopes to have a few more ahead of him. Yesterday, three days before he turns 42, he said he's, sees no reason why you should be thinking about retiring.

I have a great time. I mean, football is, I love the sport. You know, I love playing it since I was a kid. I think, you know, hard for me to imagine doing anything else in life. You know, I love playing ball. So, you know, to still be out here at 41, you know, soon to be 42, it's pretty great. I think he's getting vampire facials. I think he's doing the Kardashian thing.

He looks so. He looks so. He looks younger. I would agree with you. By the way, I'm not holding against. I am about two more bad profile shots from getting rhinoplasty or whatever it's called, you know. You get my nose job. Listen, I'm not above that. Well, we work in television, so, yeah.

I mean, you've got to take care of yourself. I don't think that Tom Brady needs to, but he definitely does look younger. I just can't imagine Tom Brady doing anything other than playing football, like anything else other than playing football. No, that's his brand. Health and football. Like, football. Maybe he'll give, like, health seminars or something. When he retires.

I'm not retiring Tom Brady this year. I'm just saying it is hard to imagine him doing anything. Like Peyton Manning, you could see him doing Monday Night Football. You know, there's certain guys you could see coaching. Like, I can't see Tom Brady coaching. Peyton does not want to be an analyst I've been told because he didn't want to criticize people. That's fine. He's one of the guys.

But you could see him doing that. I don't know if I could see. I don't know. I think Peyton would be great at anything. he chooses to do. What he's choosing to do is these little documentary slash, you know, he's doing these things for the other company I used to work for behind the paywall. And they're funny and he can show his personality. But I don't think he wants to set up there and bang on guys.

No, but he's a media kind of guy. So what he's doing makes sense. But could you see Tom Brady in the media? No. Could you see him coaching? Not really. No, he's got kind of an elegant brand. Could you see him in the front office? No. Not really. I could see Peyton at the draft making deals. I can absolutely see Peyton in the fall. Yeah, I could do. Very cerebral.

You know, now that we're talking about it, I could see Tom Brady. He fits that kind of ownership type of. A little. But I got to be honest, I think he's going to create a global health brand. Yeah. And that's going to be. And if there's going to be a bunch of clinics globally, he's got to have 400 clinics. That's what I see him doing.

Yep. In like 10 years when he retires. So finally, Baker Mayfield showed up to training camp this week with a mustache. We've seen clean-shaven baker, a trimmed beard baker, and now we have the mysterious mustache baker. Oh, boy. And mysterious mustache baker is very sassy and coy. You seem to be having fun on camera a couple of times with the mustache.

Is there a story behind me? Maybe you'll find out. Maybe you won't. I don't know. That's the elegance of having a mustache. You just don't know what's going to happen. It's like the QBRV. You guys just don't know.

You're not in any feelings in the future. You would like that, wouldn't you? He's very funny. I'm starting to like him. He's getting very close to get me on his side. He really is. He's a star. He's a star.

He's three or four more funny press conferences from me being nice to him. Well, because you also like what he's saying about what he's doing on the field. Well, he's got a good stuff. sense of humor. He's not taking himself too seriously. He's very quick and funny. Well, yes. I'm happy that he's not taking the mustache seriously. Now, listen, I don't hold grudges. So if I go to his side,

is he man enough to come and say, I accept your apology? And I wouldn't apologize to him. But I may go, and I didn't like Aaron's. I didn't like Aaron's. I don't like Aaron's. Mostache. I don't like Aaron's mustache. You know, he's got a little extra stuff going on. It's not just the mustache.

That's what is. That's my in Fitzpatrick. Yeah, that's, that's, it was a Yeti. What is that? This one... I don't like Lux at all. It looks undisciplined. It, he, yeah. This is just kind of facial here. Russell, yeah, Russell's not, that's just, that's just not shaving for a day.

Some guys are, Baker and Rogers are really the only ones I can think of. So if I come across the aisle and offer, what they call Olive Branch to Baker, is he manned enough to accept it? Because I know he wants me to like him. But are you going to stay on that side, though? Or is it temporary? You've already bet against them week one. That's not against, that's not anti-Baker. I think Cleveland giving up five and a half points to Tennessee is a bad bet.

Yeah, not being able to ever bet against Cleveland is kind of a rough agreement. You can't say, by the way, there are games I don't like New England. Right. There are games I've said, I didn't think New England could win in Kansas City. I said it. I said, I'll take the Chiefs. I don't think they can go to Kansas City and win. This video is ridiculous.

But are you going to stay on Baker's side, though, if you go over there? his side yet. I'm saying he's about three funny. If you do. That's a full commitment. Outside of my wife and kids, I'm not, you know. You can't expect someone to, you know, take the Olive Branch if you're not serious. I just hope he's man enough to say, Colin, we're buds. Because I know he wants, he wants me to like him.

Most people do. Joy Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Pearl Football Hall of Fame induction Saturday, which is a neat, neat night for amazing men who have given. their life to football, and it's very emotional watching that stuff.

We're going to induct several legends into our NFL Soundbite Hall of Fame, and that is coming up next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Saturday Pro Football Hall of Fame induction ceremony, our friend, Tony Gonzalez, champ Bailey, Ed Reed, Tileau, all deserving we'll get in. And we thought, you know, we've got our own little Hall of Fame, and that is the Soundbite Hall of Fame because we work in the world of audio, Joy Taylor.

And so without further ado, the NFL Soundbite Hall of Fame. Now, Jim Mora, Dennis Green, and Herm Edwards have already been inducted years ago. Right. So we are inducting, much like Tony Gonzalez-Tai-Law, we are introducing and inducting new members of the Hall of Fame. We'll start with Richard Sherman due to his 2013 NFC champion. Post-game interview. Congratulations.

Congratulations to Richard Sherman. Strong. He is a new Soundbite Hall of Fame inductee. Teammate Marshawn Lynch came to the Super Bowl Media Day in 2015. He's also a new inductee. I'm just here so I won't get fine. I'm here so I won't get fine. I'm here so I won't get fine.

I'm here so I won't get fine. Legendary. That discipline, determination, head down. Congratulations to Marshawn Lynch. This is now the third time he's been nominated. Bart Scott 2011 finally gets in due to this. All we hear is about their defense. They can't stop a nosebleed.

25th in the league. And we want to get disrespected. Congratulations. See you at Pittsburgh. Can't wait. Can't wait. way, four-time nominee, T.O. 2008 talked about Tony Romo. He's a new inductee. It's my team. It's my quarterback.

Genuine emotion. Cannot believe it took this long to get in. Congratulations to Tio. Inducted into our Soundbite Hall of Fame. A broadcaster. Now we've got a broadcaster in our Soundbite Hall of Fame. Very capable, very talented. Paul Allen, voice of the Vice of the Vice. Vikings after Brett Farb's game losing pick in 2009. Brett Farb goes back to pass. He pumps. Now he fires over the middle, intercepted.

I can't believe what I'm seeing right now. But why do you even ponder passing? I mean, you can take a knee and try a 56-yard field goal. This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. Congratulations to Paul Allen. Real, raw, authentic emotion. That always gets you in.

Yes. T.O. and Paul Allen, one's crying, one's nearly crying. Got to be authentic. Okay. In our Soundbite Hall of Fame, this is a lot of emotion here. 2013 Patriot Broadcaster and hype man, Scott Zolak, delivered this call of Brady's fourth quarter comeback against the States. Congratulations. Brady's back! That's your quarter. I don't even know what he said.

It's just delirious excitement. It just delirious. And so again, this is not in Canton, Ohio, because it's audio and the radio in Los Angeles. It lives in the cloud. It lives in the cloud, right? And finally, we're going to give a lifetime achievement award for our NFL Sound Hall of Fame. We're inducting before the season starts, Raiders head coach, John Gruden. I'm really not into dreams anymore, okay?

I'm into nightmares. You guys with me on that? You got to end somebody's dream. You got to take their job. You got to take their heart. We're not trying to go to the Peach Bowl. We're not trying to go to the Gator Bowl or the Blue Bonnet Bowl. We're trying to go to the Super Bowl.

Okay? And to do that, you've got to really try to end somebody's dream. Congratulations to T.O. Bart Scott Richard Sherman, Grumpy Marshawn Lynch, Scott Zolak, and John Gruden. Our own Hall of Fame, our NFL audience, Soundbite Hall of Fame. Lifetime Achieving Award is appropriate. Bart Scott was so funny.

This might be the greatest season of Hard Knocks ever. That's just a circus. And the sound bites are going to be... Well, I mean, we know what the Raiders are doing. They've got to sell season tickets in Vegas. Yeah, yeah. We get this whole thing. Every time I go to Vegas...

I'm here for it. I see the stadium. Yeah. It's going to be an amazing facility. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Last night, a blown call changed. a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

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