The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers, Chiefs, and where Colin was right & wrong

Episode Date: October 7, 2019

Colin explains why Dallas Cowboys QB Dak Prescott is most likely losing money, why he doesn't like Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers' post game comments, the possible problems with the Kansas City Chiefs, and where he was right and wrong over the weekend. Guests include Greg Jennings, Michael Vick, Geoff Schwartz, and Tony Gonzalez. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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wrong and as always there's plenty of both joy taylor is joining me redskins have fired their coach joy will have more on that coming up so we've got nfl news used to be you had to get to like thanksgiving to get fired not in dc anything is possible in washington dc oh that whole city is it's like cursed over the last decade in sports they cannot get a break with injuries and coaches So Joy and I are ready to go today. Listen, I always say I use this term a lot in my real life. What's the hurry? Why buy a house?

What's the hurry? I can rent. Why buy a new car? I'll use Uber. I have a theory in pro sports. If I owned a team or ran a team, I would pay very few people top dollar. And I would only pay them when I had to. These are salary-capped sports outside of baseball.

Like, I'll pay the LeBrons. I'll pay the Mahomes. I'll pay the great ones. But I'm not paying you early because I have salary caps. A lot more athletes are overpaid than underpaid in America today. Dak Prescott, sometimes time works in your favor, and sometimes time does not work in your favor. Dak Prescott is losing money in the negotiations.

It's not pretty. Dak is clearly a piece, but he is also clearly not a piece. And I want you to think about this. I'm going to bring up well-run organizations. The Steelers were founded in 1933. They've won Super Bowls with two quarterbacks. Terry Bradshaw and Big Ben. The Cowboys were formed in 1960.

They've won Super Bowls with two quarterbacks. Troy Aitman, Roger Stauback. Green Bay formed in the 20s. They've run Super Bowls with only three quarterbacks. Bart Starr, Brett Farv, and Aaron Rogers. 49ers formed in the 40s have only won the big trophy with Montana and Steve Young. The Colts have only won it with Unitas and Peyton Manning, and they've mostly been well-run. And by the way, New England was formed 60 years ago.

Won a Super Bowl with one guy. even the teams that win just one, a walkoff. Len Dawson, Kansas City, Drew Brees, New Orleans, Russell Wilson, Seattle. Folks, you see a trend here? You can win divisions. You can win games. But to get into the trophy room of the Super Bowl, it is overwhelmingly done with unique special Hall of Fame talents.

Dallas and Green Bay played last night. Those were two levels of course. quarterback. One has already won a trophy and may win another. The other has won divisions. Sometimes timing works in your favor. Sometimes it works against. Dak to me is a franchise quarterback, and he has a lot of qualities I like. But the film doesn't lie and your eyes don't lie. When you put him in the room in that little box called a TV set next to Aaron Rogers. One's a trophy room guy and one's a guy with the top offensive line and the best running back that can win games in a division. Greg CoSell is somebody I brought on for five years.

After DAC beat the Giants, I pressed him. Come on now, Greg. Dack is special, right? I would say he looked comfortable without question. I would also say that that performance by the Giants defense was so bad. I really don't know what to say. He threw to a a ton of open receivers. He made a couple of really good throws, but I don't know what to say, Colin, beyond that. You know, I'm being honest. I'm just trying to be honest, because I've been watching

tape since 1991. I've seen an awful lot. So I don't know what to say in response to quarterback hitting wide open receivers. DAC is simply not a blank check guy, and there's about five to eight on the planet. He is a right-a-check-to-im guy, But that's where if I own a team or run a team, timing, I cross my fingers, works in my favor.

27.5 million, I'd sign it. 35, I'll draft another. And again, what's the rush? Rent. Rent for years before you buy the house. It's really expensive. Drive Uber for months until you buy the car. Those are really expensive. There is no way. reason to pay early. Time is clearly, clearly working against DAC here. And again, I like him, but he's not a blank check guy. And I'd sign him, but in a salary cap league, I would squeeze every penny back to my franchise to allow me to be as nimble as I can to sign other players going forward. Let me shift to Aaron Rogers. He put on a clinic last night. You would think as a good looking guy, 100 million network, new contract, new head coach. Aaron Rogers has a happy life

personally, it looks like. His girlfriend was there. He is, I mean, he got the DNA, the arm, the hard work, the looks, the money, the state farm commercials. Life is good for Aaron Rogers. There is no reason for Aaron Rogers, especially after last night, beat America's team, looked absolutely sensational, deserves every bit of praise I'm going to heap on him. There would be no reason this morning or after that game to punch down. Now, would there? To be petty, to be snarky. But after that amazing performance with Mike McCarthy, nowhere near the conference. conversation, Aaron Rogers had to take a shot at him.

I just think we're just a more connected team this year. We're enjoying each other more. We like each other, I think, a little more. We hang out with each other. The locker room is a raucous environment, whether it's a, you know, a Monday or whether it's right after a big win. I just think guys really play for each other more. and we have that chemistry that because of the leadership that we have

that maybe we've been lacking in the last couple years. Oh, God, Aaron, stop. I mean, you're like the guy that gets divorced and runs to Facebook. Never been happier. Arm around my new boo! Aaron, you're worth $100 million. You're the best-looking guy in the NFL. You won your team.

Sunday night football. You were great. I mean, you're not even subtle about it. This is why you've had family, friends, executives, although you said the article was made up, take shots at you. Be disappointed with you. Be better.

I mean, why would you punch down? Mike McCarthy, you talk about leadership. Well, so he was the only leader in Green Bay last year it was man overboard. Aaron's win last night makes him officially a 500 career road quarterback. Is Mike McCarthy

get all the blame for that? Aaron is now, ooh, two and seven in his last nine road games. You would think with the looks and the performance and the money and the girlfriend and the fame and everything

going in his direction, he is beloved in a great state of Milwaukee. Wisconsin. Great state of Wisconsin. He's just beloved that he has to fire a shot at the unemployed Mike McCarthy. I mean, come on. Aaron, really? McCarthy was nowhere near that room. And if you're going to say, now we've got good leadership, well, aren't you part of the leadership the previous seven, eight years? You certainly got credit for the Super Bowl win because of your arm and leadership. I mean, really? You're going to run to Instagram with a snarky video?

Got my new boot. Never been happier. Save that for the 20-somethings. The kids. You're a grown-up. You're a franchise. Your face maybe of the league going forward. Do better.

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He used a little bit of that this weekend. So I am, I am, we, Joy and I, our studio right here is, you know, it's 15 minutes from Hollywood. And they have these red carpet things all. the time and I don't go to them. About five, six times a year, I'm invited to go to the red carpet or we work at Fox, the blue carpet. And I, of course, say no because I'm not into them. I go home, hang out with my dogs and eat popcorn and my beautiful wife, and I'm boring. But I'm okay. Boring is okay. Boring is fine too. You got to be true to yourself. I'm boring. Joy is much more exciting than I am. That's why Joy is on the show to bring some life to the show. But I am boring, but I'm okay.

I'm comfortable with my boring. Always be true to yourself. I am a homebody. I like watching documentaries. I'm boring. I don't think you're boring, but. Okay. Well, my wife hopefully does neither.

The point being is boring gets a bad rap. I said this years ago, there's a difference between being alone and being lonely. I'm alone all the time. I never feel like I'm lonely. So in the NFL, you don't want to hear this, but boring usually, mostly win Super Bowls. Patrick Mahomes is fun and he's flashy, and the Kansas City Chiefs are like a track meet. And last night, they met boring Indianapolis. And Patrick Mahomes mostly sat on the bench and watched the game because the boring colts who are built through the draft pay almost nobody.

Their best players and offensive guard played keep away from Patrick Mahomes. And the fireworks show was doused. Never forget that the best show on turf in the 90s, one Super Bowl. Peyton Manning's exhilarating Colts, one Super Bowl. Dan Marino's flashy dolphins, none, and John Elway, none until he got a running game called Terrell Davis. Look around the league. Detroit and Indianapolis in the last two weeks have given you a blueprint. We're going to double team Travis Kelsey, the amazing tight end, that Patrick Mahon,

can complete 75% of his throws to. We're going to double him and take him out. And we're going to force Patrick Mahomes to make lower percentage, firework throws up the sidelines. And if one of those receivers, Tyreek Hill, is hurt, we like our chances. And both Indy and Detroit did a great job. Now, I'm not saying you're going to ever completely solve Patrick Mahomes. But the internet gushes over every no way.

look, sort of looking, kind of looking, marginally looking pass. That's like a hole in one at a golf tournament. That guy never wins the tournament. You know who wins the golf tournament? The guy that hits his puts. And right now, Kansas City's not hitting their puts. They can't run the ball and they can't stop it.

And in the last 10 days, I've watched Aaron Rogers sit on the bench, watch the boring Philadelphia Eagles running game, overwhelm the Packers. Yesterday, I watched the boring Colts offensive running game, make Patrick Mahomes watch that game from the sideline. Boring overwhelmingly wins titles. I don't know if you've watched football, but the playoffs, it's crazy. Every year they're at the same time, December and January,

and here's what's even crazier. They're played outdoors. Good luck having a fireworks show in the rain or the snow or in hail. They cancel them. So to great running games. They cancel Aaron Rogers, and they cancel Patrick Mahomes. And I know they're boring. But Colin, we didn't have Tyreek Hill.

Stop. The Colts didn't have Andrew Luck, Darius Leonard, Malik Hooker. They were missing more. You got to hit your putts. I don't care about longest off the tee, long drive champions, hole in one on a Thursday, who hits their putts? This league, look at the box score last night. As great as Patrick Mahomes is, he had the ball 22 minutes.

The Colts had it almost 38. That, that is what wins post Thanksgiving. Here's Joy with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, it's happened. The Reskins had fired head coach Jay Gruden in his six seasons in Washington.

He had a 35, 49, and one record, including an 0-and-5 start this season. He only made the playoffs once back in 2015 and lost to the Packers in the wildcard game. And now assistant head coach, an offensive line coach, Bill Callahan, will reportedly be the interim head coach. You remember he coached the Raiders in the Super Bowl in 2002 and lost to the Bucks and John Gruden. and he was the offensive coordinator in Oakland four years prior to that. Now, the Redskins have obviously been terrible this season. And aside from the dolphins being historically,

maybe the worst team in NFL history, they would be the obvious worst team in the league. That said, they did take Dwayne Haskins and the idea was to turn him into the future of the franchise. And I don't really don't understand what they needed to see from a loss to the Patriots that would change their mind about Jay Gurdon. Well, the story I am hearing, from a sore side trust.

This has been doomed from the start. Jay Gruden and his staff did not want to draft DeWain Haskins. Dan Snyder's son went to high school with Dwayne Haskins, fell in love with him, and drafted him. So this owner and this staff were not simpatico on this quarterback.

One wanted him to play. The others did not. Dwayne's talented, but only played college one year. So he's a kid. This was doomed. This discontinues to be. We can all bang on the Miami Dolphins, but I'll say it again, they have a plan. Yeah, albeit I think a bad plan, but at least it's a plan.

I don't know what Washington's plan is. Well, this is again, this is never forget this about Dan Snyder. He once hired an offensive coordinator, Jim Zorn, before he hired the coach. No coach would take the job. So he made Jim Zorn, my childhood, my favorite player growing up. the coach. He doesn't know what he's doing. He may be a smart businessman.

He is a terrible NFL owner. There is no debut. This is a bad, bad NFL owner. Maybe not a bad guy. Just a bad owner. Well, yeah, I mean, you can be great at business and not be great at lots of other things. Or be great at one business and terrible at another business. We see it all the time.

Yeah. My issue with Washington is, obviously, they have. no direction, but this is just another example of what is the purpose? I don't see the purpose of firing Jay Gruden. Why? So that you can get a head start on all the candidates that are out there. The guys that don't have head coaching jobs right now, guess what? They're not going to have them after the season's over either. The reason they're firing him is because it's become personal. Well, yes, but that's my issue with it. And this is when owners always get into this terrible territory where they think they know more football than football guys.

It's bad. Just hire the best people at what they do and let them do their job. And then that way, if they fail, then they failed and not you. But when we know that an owner is involved in personnel decisions, we have to pass the blame around to everyone. And really, a lot of times, in my opinion, it's really not the coach's fault. You can't give a coach a guy he doesn't want or doesn't believe in. It never works.

The Gruden was not in on Dwayne Haskins. This was not this staff's pick. And Dan Snyder swooped in and said, pick him. And it was over. And then, you know, Alex Smith gets hurt. Right. It could have worked. If Alex doesn't get hurt and you can just groom Dwayne, then everybody's happy.

Because you would win games with Alex Smith. Of course. But once Alex got hurt, then it's done. And that's not Jay Gruden's fault. No. None of this really is. And it's not Dwayne Haskins's fault either. But now he's in a situation where while he has someone who's been a head coach before,

an offensive coordinator before, he's not going to be the guy next year. So it's just more turnover. Baker Mayfield's no stranger to media backlash, and he hasn't shied away from firing back at his critics. Teammate Odell says he hopes the media will keep taking shots at Baker because it keeps him motivated. I think I would just encourage everyone who talks about Baker on the media to keep antagonizing them and to keep making them mad because that's what you're going to get.

This is somebody who's been fueled off of that all his life. And the more you poke fun at him, the more he's going to poke back. So I just love to see him in his element and just being him. Why is critical thinking making fun of him? Nobody's making fun of him. We just think sometimes Baker's noisy. By the way, Odell's theory is right, which is he's a chip on the shoulder guy, keep feeding him.

But I don't think anybody's making fun of him. Well, yeah, I mean, poking fun at him is probably a little bit extreme. I think he's just more saying if you take shots at him, like the way that, I mean, everyone feels like Rex Ryan was a little bit harsh. Yes. I thought he was. Right. And while if he hadn't been so exaggerated in his critique of Baker, if he had been more, you know, analytical about it, there would have been more meat to that, you know, critique of him. But it just kind of fell over the top.

This is a great game tonight. I'm very excited for this game. It's huge for the, well, both teams obviously, but particularly for the Browns, because that division is wide open. you said earlier, especially after watching that Steelers Ravens game last night. Can we just say this about that division? It stinks? It's, I wouldn't say it stinks. Well, Cincinnati stinks. Cincinnati. Yeah, but it is. I mean, that's not news. And now Pittsburgh's on their third quarterback, so they can't. I just think it's just, I mean, Cincinnati is what we knew Cincinnati was going to be. Pittsburgh thing makes it very interesting. And the way that the Ravens have played the past two weeks has made it very interesting.

If Cleveland, Baker Mayfield, shut us all up. Go to the Bay Area. win the night because that division is yours. I would love to see that. That division is Baker-Mayfields to lose. Like sometimes you get breaks in life. Tom Brady got a real break. The Dolphins Jets and Bills are historically dysfunctional. Tom got a break.

There's no question. Rather be lucky than unlucky. That's right. Peyton Manning, by the way, mostly his division in the AFC. If his division was dysfunctional. There's no debating that. I mean, he's still great, but that is definitely aided them. Baker's getting a break.

Yes. So take advantage of it. Yeah. That division after this weekend's a mess. Finally, the AP poll week seven rankings have been released. Not much change at the top with Alabama and Clemson remaining at one and two after bye weeks. The biggest jump came from Florida moving from 10 to 7 after the win over to Auburn, who dropped to 12. And Michigan moved up to 16 from 19 after their thrilling 10 to 3 win over Iowa.

But they did get the win. If I had to give you my four that I vote in today, it would be Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. And I would put Wisconsin ahead of Georgia. I think Wisconsin is really, really good. Best defense I've ever seen the Badgers have. I put them five, and my gut feeling is Oklahoma could lose. Just keep your eye out for this weekend. It can be fun to watch.

Oklahoma, Texas is going to be very fun to watch. Well, it's always a great game. It's always a great game. I don't know. You think they could lose to Texas? Texas scores a lot of points. Texas scores a lot of points. We'll see.

I don't think about that one. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Well, he played in the NFL for 13 seasons. He was a pro bowler for four of them. And as the NFL has moved into more athletic quarterbacks, it often makes us think and connect to Michael.

Vic, and he is now joining us. Come on in, Michael. Good to see you. Drafted number one overall, most career rushing yards by a quarterback in NFL history. By the way, so Dak last night really struggled. Dack didn't have the running game. DAC was a little bit out of his element. Sometimes I said time works in your favor and you get the contract.

Sometimes time doesn't work. Are you concerned this morning that we have a little bit of a trend here? If the Cowboys aren't running the ball, Dak over the last three years is not a very effective quarterback. Yeah, I'm a little concerned. And I think this Cowboys team should always try to lean on the run game. And I don't know if it's because they got down 17 and nothing yesterday so fast and why everything kind of got out of sync.

But I know that drive early when DAC through the interception was very critical and it changed the dynamic of the game. But this team has shown that they need to rely on their run game, lean on Zeke because it takes all the pressure off of deck. And then the play action game just becomes more relevant. When they don't have that, they just seem to struggle. I don't think this is a team where you ask DAC to go out and throw for over 300 yards. has to be a balanced attack.

And, yes, it's sort of becoming a trend. When Zika's not heavily involved, this team looks different. No, if you go back to their last 12 losses, all have one thing in common. When they can't run, they can't score. And we're getting into a league now where, you know, seemingly everybody is scoring. So it was ugly. Yes. You know, it's interesting.

Aaron Rogers was obviously great. I was kind of blown away by Aaron Jones. even though Aaron was amazing. That was the first time in the last couple years. I looked at Green Bay and went, oh. Yeah. Yeah, they could hoist a trophy. Right.

When was the last time they had 100-yard Russia in a game? I mean, it was so good to see Aaron Jones come out and run for 100 yards, four touchdowns superseded what we thought he could do. Right. Or what he did the past couple weeks. And that was because they trusted him. They put the ball into his hands. They didn't ask Aaron Rogers to go out.

and win the game. And I think at this point in this career, at his age, you don't ask Aaron to go out and win every game. He's done that in the past. It's like Russell Wilson, I always say. The Seahawks ask Russell Wilson about four times a game. Hey, do that magic thing. Yeah.

And yesterday Aaron shows up. Yeah, Aaron made the pass down the sideline. He did the sidearm throw. Right. He had about four times where they were like Aaron? Yeah, where they really needed him. Yeah, do your Aaron Rogers thing. But like when I watched Green Bay yesterday, I thought,

oh, this looks like a team that could play. I tell you what, with the defense and the way they've stepped up, and I think this is something that Aaron has had his own for a long time, getting a defense that can get stops, create field position, allow him to play a game that's way easier than what he's played in the past, not having to drive 80 yards, week in and week out. It's just helped this team become more functional. They look like a Super Bowl contender now,

and if it wasn't for that interception versus the Eagles, this team could be 5 and 0. You know, it's interesting. So I watched, when I think of running quarterbacks, I think a lot of us in America think of Michael Vick. So I watched Kyler Murray yesterday as long as they got to get the offensive line better, but I think he's fascinating to watch. I watched Lamar Jackson yesterday,

and I think he's regressing a little bit. I could sense the frustration with him. Listen, this is, how many games has Lamar played? He hasn't played a full season. So when you watch Lamar, for instance, what are you seeing? Well, I see sort of a regression, but not as big as I think it may look. You know, teams, when you line up and you run these funky formations and, you know, it's a lot of RPO stuff. And, you know, you plan within the hashes.

It's kind of easy to make adjustments to it. You know, what you have to do, you have to go outside of the box and you have to start throwing different wrinkles into the system to make things look different. Everything is up the hashes, down the middle. There are no outbreaking routes. There are no corner routes being thrown. You've got to stretch the field.

You've got to throw some deep balls. Everything kind of looks the same. Yes. And after a quarter of the season, you know, these defensive coordinators, they catch up and they see what other teams have done to negate their progress. and it's a copycat league, they're going to do the same thing. So it's not going to get any easier. Lamar will be asked or will have to make more plays

because defenses are going to play them different. So that's why we see the struggles. That's why we see the inconsistencies. So last night I'm watching Patrick Mahomes and largely watched the game from the bench. So you could go to your career. I do think that rhythm matters. I think quarterbacks need a rhythm.

And I'm sure there were games in your game. career where you sit and there you go you know you go to the sideline and you're 13 to 18 minutes you don't get back on the field right do you think you know pat pat my holmes got dinged up a little bit was it the foot injury was it sitting and watching the game was it Tyree kill because he was out of rhythm I thought I think it was more so um you know the injury but at the same time just the time of possession just being on the sideline for the for a long time uh doesn't allow you to get into that playing rhythm when you throw on the ball, even if you throw a five-yard pass into the flat on the possession after you've set for a long time, you know, that one play can get you going.

When it's not enough of that, you know, even with Patrick Mahomes and as great as he is, he still needs throws to build confidence as he goes. If he comes out and he hits his first five or six, he's a different quarterback. He was great early. And then I think after that hot start, he went three for ten. Right. It just became more difficult. Maybe that was because he was dinged up a little bit.

But, you know, there was double teams on Travis Kelsey. There was a lot of things going on that they haven't seen in a long time that made this game more difficult for Patrick. Now, Andy Reed is somebody you're close to. What do you think Andy Reid says after the last two weeks where he didn't have a touchdown pass at Detroit? He struggled after some initial success yesterday. What do you think Andy Reid preaches this week to Patrick Mahal?

Andy thrives in these moments. What he'll do, he'll go back and look at the film, and he'll break it down, he'll critique it, and he'll find ways to get back on playing. It will be easy for them. I just think it was one of those games where, you know, you're not flat, and you probably, they probably expected to win, like, convincingly. And you go in and it's a hostile environment.

Things don't go your way early, and you got a team that's just as motivated as you. And I think it was just one of those games where they kind of, they underestimated the Colts. By the way, teams that were embarrassed, last week, Baltimore, Indianapolis, Green Bay's defense against

Philadelphia. There's five teams that the previous week were kind of embarrassed. They all came back to win. They all bounced back strong. Yeah. I mean, that's the way the league works. Indianapolis got blown out at home by Oakland and then was unbelievably focused for this game. Which was bizarre to me.

I mean, I just knew it was a given that they would beat Oakland. It says a lot about Oakland. They're a lot better football team than I think we give them credit for Let's segue into the Raiders. They're noisy, they're dysfunctional. I don't like them organizationally. But I'm sitting there yesterday watching it.

And it's funny about this. The players like Gruden. Yeah. Okay. So I don't know how much it matters, Mike, but you've been in locker rooms. There is a certain sort of vibe and energy. Like, what do you make of the Raiders? I think it all stars with Jay Gruton, and I think his attitude reflects to all the guys that, you know, he has playing for him.

And he's hard-nosed. I think he's very demanding and he's smart. And one thing Jay can, what John can do is he can make the adjustments to the game of football. That's one thing I worried about when he first came back to the league. 10 years off. He's been out for 10 years. You know, has the game, you know, evolved, you know, ahead of his time. Right.

I think he's come back. He's watched a ton of film. He's drafted the right players. Obviously, he has the running back that he needs to carry the load. The tight end they got from Baltimore. from Baltimore. These guys are playing good football. And then he's a quarterback guru, you know, in a sense.

You know, Derek Carr is in a really good situation with John because he's a guy that coach quarterback's his entire life. And he's going to get the best out of Derek Carr. Yeah, I will say this about him. The running back from Bama looks good. They stole a tight end from Baltimore who had some off-field problems. Now he is focused. Darren Waller.

They also upgraded the O-line. Free agency. They went and got a right tackle and a receiver. And I got to be honest, at least the offensive pieces work. Yeah. Like I watch them. I'm like, oh, the offense is fine. The offense is fine.

Now, again, they're in a rebuilding mode. Right. But when I watch the offense with John Gruden, I'm like, well, he knows offense. Yeah, well, he made that trade for Khalil Mack. He needed to do some things that made us feel better about that trade. And I think with the draft picks that he was able to acquire, he's making it work. And I just want to see it continue to go forward in a positive manner and see. see this team win games and compete in the division because, you know,

charges lost to the Broncos yesterday. Denver doesn't have its footing. In Denver, you know, it's... Hey, in the AFC, Mike, there's a... In the AFC yesterday, entering the day there were eight, two, and two teams. Yeah. Raiders are one of the three and twos. Today, they'd be a playoff team.

It's not a definitive division. Nope. So where somebody stepped up and said, you know, we will run the division and we'll compete with New England at the end of the year. Of course, I still think Kansas City will be there, but it's a ton of team. teams that wild card. Hey, that wild card spot. Speaking of wild card, Cleveland's two and two.

If they win tonight, they are tied with the Raiders in that sort of wild card spot. My gut feeling says Kyle Shanahan has had two weeks to prepare. They're at home. Cleveland, a young team is off a great win against Baltimore. Do they come down a little bit? My gut says the Niners win tonight, what say you? Yeah, my gut says the Niners win. You got Cleveland traveling across the country.

Hopefully they left early to buy themselves from time to get acclimated to the time difference because that could play a factor. Hopefully they stay focused. But Shanahan were two weeks to prepare. And Jimmy G. playing some good football, decent football right now. I think they have the team to beat the Cleveland Browns and they're playing at home, which is a big advantage for a team who has a young team and a team coming across the country to compete.

By the way, these are two of the youngest. teams in the NFL. And when you watch the game tonight, San Francisco's offensive talent is young, but super talented. Oh, I got to pay attention. Oh, the wide receivers. And Cleveland's young talent is also really good. The downside, though, Cleveland's missing two of their best corners. Greedy and Denzel Ward. Yeah. I think that's an advantage. Could be the difference maker. Yeah. Blazing 5 and 20, excuse me, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong in 20 minutes. Michael, great seeing you. Thanks for me. Greg Jennings, Jeff Schwartz, Tony Gonzalez. us all stop by today in a Monday.

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On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the team everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this.

At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, Listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My wife used to always make fun at me because she said I would circle a house before I bought it. Like for six months, I'd circle a house. I'd drive by it in the day. I'd drive by it at night.

I drive by it in the afternoon. And my wife is more, you know, she's more about, I like it, I got it, go. I tend to be a circler. And it's kind of a running joke in our family. And I've done this. My wife and I've been together now over a decade, and we've had some home purchases, and I circle, and I want to see the house at night, I want to see it in the day, what's the traffic flow like, what are the crazy neighbors like? I'll go on the weekends, I'll go early in the morning, and I'm a crazy person. I'm like a vulture.

I just circle it. Your case in the place? I kind of case the joint, so that's kind of what I do. But my point is, before I make a massive purchase, I want to know everything. And I'm not, I'll say this about Dak Prescott. I like that Prescott a lot, and I've been circling and circling, but yesterday, did give me pause. And I never understood if you got on a plane and the pilot said to you, listen, there's a massive storm off to the right. We're going to deviate and go left. You'd be like,

thank you. If you were going to have surgery and the surgeon said, you know, I've been looking at your x-rays and I just got a new one in. And I'm going to make sure we do this the right way because we've got new information. If your stockbroker said, hey, the president of this company is selling all his stock. So I'm going to say, cancel our order. In all three of those cases, you'd be like, ooh, new information, yeah. Well, yes, except when you're a sportscaster.

I have to have an opinion and it never changes. Yesterday, I watched DAC, who I have been supportive of, now after years of doubting him, and it gave me pause. They trailed 31 to 3. He looked terrible at home against the Green Bay defense that Philadelphia torched. And it's not that he lost. There is a disturbing trend when you dig deeper with DAC. In his last dozen losses, 12, they all have something in common.

The offense is losing the game, not the defense. The last 12 cowboy losses, look at the numbers. They score 7, 9, 6, 12, 8, 13, 16, 17, 14, 17, 14, 0, 10, 24. Only once against Philadelphia did the team they lost to score in the 30s. The defense in the last 12, and don't look at the game yesterday and go, well, it was 34, 24. That was Green Bay trying to kill the clock and that getting garbage yards. In their 12 losses, only once has the defense really not shown up.

That was week 11 against Philadelphia in 2017. So it's like Thursday night the Rams lost. That's a good loss. You went up to Seattle. Russell Wilson did what Russell Wilson does. And Jared Goff looked very good in a hostile environment. By the length of one football, if the kick goes left, not right, you leave. You can feel good about that.

When Buffalo lost in New England two weeks ago, and Tom Brady was awful. Buffalo's got to leave that and think, fellas, the only one Tom Brady in the league, We got a chance to win double-digit games. It is not losing in this league. Nobody goes 60 to know. It is how you lose. The Rams Thursday, you can take positives. Buffalo losing at home to New England.

You can take positives. Dax's last 12 losses, only once has the defense not helped him out. By the way, DAC against winning teams since 2017 is 5 and 9 with 18 turnovers and has been sacked 40 times. And that's not an O-line issue. That's a DAC holding on of the ball issue. And in those 12 losses, he has seven touchdowns and 17 picks. So we've got new information. I like DAC.

I would pay DAC. But don't pay till you have to and take every single bit of information in. This is what I was sitting next to a pilot on a flight two weeks ago. I literally got in a flight and there was a pilot that had to fly to L.A. for his next flight. And we talked about this. He goes, I get stuff two hours before the flight, 30 minutes before the flight, and in the flight. He goes, I'm getting constant information on avoid this lightning storm, avoid this turbulence. If pilots can do it, an NFL owner and a GM can't, like yesterday gave me pause. I sat there and watched it and I went, you know what, this, I'm seeing

a trend. So I start digging on the stats, dig into his last 12 losses, dig into the numbers, digging to the data. I got no problem being wrong on stuff. I think DAC's more of a $27.5 million a year quarterback. I think he's in that class. I don't think he's a 37. I don't think he's a 35. I think you can pay him mid to high 20s now.

Time has not worked for him. There's new information. I'm not going to be stubborn and rigid. I've always been a pro-DAC pay him 30. After the last couple of games, I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'd pay him 26, 27. And now I think Jerry's going to pay him because Jerry's saying stuff after the game. It's amazing. I love him. He's this. He's that. Go for it. I mean, that's, I don't own the team. I don't run the team. But, you know, I, this whole, I would rather get it right than be right. I want my pilot to get it right. I want my stockbroker to get it right. I want my surgeon. If my kids or me are going to the hospital, get it right. Don't be rigid and stubborn. Yesterday I watched that and I thought, this is, I'm seeing a, I almost felt like ghou lay.

Goulet is overly negative. I try to be optimistic. That's just my natural cheery self. But yesterday I'm like, yeah, this is a problem. This is a problem. He is struggling against the good defense. And I mean, struggling and that had some Kirk Cousins looks to it. That was not pretty.

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Hey, Ms. Parker. Listen to the Cliverts show on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of a Atlanta, you already know, there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues.

I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real House Wise franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the T everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game.

As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Ah, here we go on a Monday, live in Los Angeles, hour two. This is The Herd, wherever you may. may be in however you may be listening. Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio and FS1, Joy Taylor is joining me. I think San Francisco beats Cleveland tonight fairly close, 3026. Cleveland's got some injuries to the back end of their defense. Kyle Shanahan has an extra week to prepare. We're seeing that extra week

to prepare matters. Green Bay had extra time to prepare for Dallas. So three or four days to prepare extra can really help. And San Francisco at home, extra week for a very clever offensive coach. I would probably take 3026 San Francisco tonight, Joy. It'll be either way, even though it's not on our network. NFL was wild yesterday, all sorts of fun. Tonight will be a lot of fun to watch that game.

Two young quarterbacks, both have had a little off-field of, you know, Jimmy G. and the adult star was not ideal. Baker's had some moments, not ideal. So it's, you know, you've got a little bit of, you've got a showcase game with young quarterbacks who are kind of profound personalities, right? Young star quarterbacks, young, well, new coaches. Yes. And the thing about Cleveland is it's wide open, like we said.

The AFC North is wide open now after that Steelers Ravens game. And, you know, who knows what's going to happen with the Steelers moving forward now that Mason Rudolph is injured. So it's Baltimore and Cleveland. I think it's a way bigger game for Cleveland. It is for San Francisco. That's how I feel. If Cleveland loses tonight, Baltimore's 3 and 2, their 3 and 2 and 3.

And by the way, Baltimore, their schedule going forward feels a little easier than Cleveland, which has New England. I think they have Seattle. Don't the Browns have Seattle at New England? I think they have to go to Denver. They have Seattle, then New England's. Yeah, that's no day. Then Denver, then they have the bills at home.

By the way, the bills are no day at the beach. So Cleveland needs to win this game. tonight. This is a big thing. Now, not an excuse because Devonte Adams was out in Green Bay 1. One corner doesn't matter, but Denzel Ward is out, I believe, for Cleveland. He's really good. All right. We do it every Monday. It's called Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. I am both regularly. We admit it when we whiff. And here we go. Where Colin was right? Well, this is officially, John Goulet, the hottest I have ever been. Blazing 5, 4 and 1 again. We picked Kyler Murray to win. We took the Vikings Saints and Packers.

We are 74% on the year. I am on fire. Start fading me very soon. By the way, we were also red hot in the playoffs last year. I think we went 9 and 2 or 10 and 1. So we've been on a streak. We get into these occasionally. They don't last forever.

I may ask you to pull back on the size of your numbers, but Fox bet is happy. So are we 4 in 1. And I like that I took Kyler and Marie to win. I always like when I take like a dog team to win on the road and they win. Way to go, Arizona. Where Colin was wrong. Couldn't you give John Gruden

at least a mention in Coach of the Year? I'm not saying he's as good as, but the AB nonsense, a first-time general manager, I've got to be honest with you. The offense is fun. The free agent signings on offense look pretty good. The offensive draft picks at least look pretty good. and the schedule, Vontes Burfeck got kicked out of the team, the cryo-foot, A-B nonsense. There's been a lot of noise.

Now, structurally, organizationally, I still think this is a bottom five team in the league. But I got to give them credit here. They have wildly overachieved, in my opinion, from what I thought they would be. I like watching them play. and Gruden is an offensive guy and Derek Carr looks comfortable and they have established a running game and the free agents and the offensive draft picks look pretty good so I'm wrong on that. Where Colin was right? We told you. Saints are going to be fine with Teddy Bridgewater.

You know what Teddy Bridgewater is if he was an NBA point guard because quarterbacks are point guards? He's Mike Conley. Smart, coachable, leadership skills, great distributor and he hits a couple of jumpers a game. He keeps you honest. That's Teddy. Teddy doesn't make any mistakes. He's a great distributor. He'll make two or three throws that keep you honest.

But the bottom line is he's completing 75% of his throws. What did we tell you? He's Drew Breeze. He can't throw it deep. He's super accurate and smart. Now, do I think Drew situationally down the stretch is better? No question. But Teddy's the best backup quarterback in the NFL.

And you know what? That's like a real job. That's like being the best guy off the bench in the NBA. Go ask the Toronto Racketka. Like having the best six man, it's like a real thing, right? You don't get the big shoe deal, but Teddy's the world's best backup quarterback, and good for him. Where Colin was wrong. Adam Gase, right now, four touchdowns in 28 quarters.

Now, again, Sam Darnold's out. I get it. But here's what's inexcusable. There's all 11 backup quarterbacks have played this year. Doesn't need to be man overboard. Jacksonville's playing with a backup. Carolina is playing with a backup. Teddy Bridgewater's a backup.

I don't want to hear. Andrew Luck is out. Indy just won with a backup in Kansas City. Just because you have a backup quarterback doesn't mean you can't compete in games. Reportedly, he gave first team reps to Donald all week, knowing he hadn't been medically cleared. Not acceptable. I don't want to hear it's a backup quarterback.

I know Sam Darnold this week against Dallas. It'll be a real game. It's an eight-point spread. but the body language, the lack of innovation, and I don't want to hear that Jets don't have talent. C.J. Mosley, Jamal Adams, Leonard Williams, Quinnon Williams, Labian Bell, the interior of their offensive line is good. Robbie Anderson, they get Hernden back the tight end.

And Sam Darnold, if they go out and land egg against Dallas, that's a problem. Because don't tell me that Jets don't have talent. They got seven or eight elite players. Now, they got holes, but they got real players. Where Colin was right? Well, I've been saying this for a long time. Washington Redskins are a poorly run tire fire. They fired Jay Gruden this morning.

Dan Snyder may be a great business man. He's a crappy owner. Here's a guy years ago that hired an offensive coordinator before he hired the head coach. And then when he couldn't get a head coach, he said, I'll just make the coordinator the coach. And Jim Zorn, wonderful guy, was over his skis and got whacked. By the way, Jay Gruy.

and the staff did not want to draft Dwayne Haskins. They had other people in mind reportedly Daniel Jones. So, but Daniel Jones' son went to high school with Dwayne Haskins. So it's just the worst kind of owner. Dan Snyder's son, I'm sorry. Dan Snyder's son went to high school with, you know, Dwayne Haskins. So they drafted him. And the minute Alex Smith got hurt, now you've got to play Dwayne Haskins.

It's a mess. This is a poorly run franchise. Good luck getting a legitimate coach. What legitimate coach would take that job? No way. In the coaching fraternity, this is poison. This is a poison. Stay out, yield, stop all the way.

Where Colin was right? Can you stop telling me Carolina doesn't surround Cam with talent? They rush for 280 yards. They had a defensive touchdown. They've won three straight without Cam Newton. Listen, you and I are going to disagree on Cam Newton, but here's what I'm tired of hearing. You know, they don't really have any talent. Are you watching them?

They're loaded. Their receivers are great. Christian McCaffrey is absurd. He may be the best running back in the NFL. I'm not sure he is, but he's close. Carolina dropped 34 points yesterday. Stop telling me that Cam doesn't have help. Now, I'm not saying Kyle Allen's better than Cam, but that has been the lamest excuse.

Once again, Ron Rivera, the head coach, this team has the eighth best defense in the league. So once again, when Cam comes back, for the six time in nine years, he'll have a top 10 defense to go along with maybe the best running back in football. Where Colin was wrong. Listen, Jim Harbaugh's offenses have moved into pathetic category. How does Wisconsin have better running backs than Michigan? I don't understand it. Like, listen, three for 13 on third downs, 260 yards against Iowa at home. I don't understand it.

Jim Harbaugh is an offensive guy. They have no playmakers. They don't have any pop or burst or explosion plays. I don't get it. Listen, I still think Jim won, and Jim will win nine and a half games. but the one thing I thought Harbaugh would bring to this franchise, this program is toughness and some offensive pop. They're getting worse. I mean, quarterback's transfer there, and they get worse.

Shea Patterson, two years ago, I thought he could be a first-round quarterback. I'm not sure he's draftable now. Where Colin was right? Thursday night, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff. We were right on both accounts. First of all, Russell Wilson said it for years is the most underappreciated quarterback. of my lifetime. I don't think there's a second place. Maybe Steve Young. I can't explain what he does. He's the most unique quarterback ever. He runs but never gets hit. He throws the softest deep ball in the

league and every receiver in tight end they give him, everyone works. And then there's Jared Goff, who you kept telling me is the liability. I watched that game and I thought he's kind of the strength. I don't worry about Jared Goff. I thought he looked like Tom Brady down the stretch. So on Thursday, both Wilson and Goff proved our point. Russell's an all-time Hall of Fame talent, and Jared Goff is not the Rams obstacle. He is not a liability. He is a core strength. Where Colin was right?

My favorite NFL theory is called the bounce back theory. When good teams are humiliated or good units, they always bounce back. So I love Green Bay this week because their defense. was humiliated in a Thursday night Fox game. Ten days later, their defense looked amazing. Always go with a team that was recently humiliated. The Vikings' offense was humiliated, got ripped in the press, came back and looked great against the Giants.

The five teams in the league that were called out or humiliated, Baltimore, Indie, Green Bay, Houston, Minnesota, 5-0. Now, by the way, Kansas City's offense, is getting ripped today. Go online, figure out the Vegas line, watch Kansas City's offense next week, put on a fireworks show. It's my favorite NFL theory, the bounceback theory.

These are men, they're professionals. As long as you have some talent, Minnesota's offense, Green Bay's defense, if you get humiliated, especially on a national TV standalone game, they always, always play great. the following week. Not the case in college football.

Almost always the case in the NFL. Coming up next, Greg Jennings, Aaron Rogers, calling out Mike McCarthy. Really? Really? He'll be joining us next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I-Hard Radio app.

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies,

and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls,

we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants. answer. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.

I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross.

Because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing,

growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff, like being an internet famous referee.

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podcasts. The American League Division Series between the Yankees and twins continues tonight with three as Aaron Judge and the Bronx Bombers look to close it out on the road catch all the action at 8 Eastern on FS1 and the Fox Sports Act. When's the last time the Yankees lost to the twins? You live in Minneapolis. In a playoff game. It's been like 15

years. Seriously. The Yankees do not lose to the twins in the playoffs ever. Yeah. It's rough. Yeah, you're at the breaks. At least they're excited in the Twin Cities. Very excited. It's still above zero.

So the temperatures are Okay, so Aaron Rogers, I'm not here to bang on Aaron Rogers. He was great last night. But when you have the matinee idol looks, $100 million in the bank, you won, McCarthy lost, you win the game, you beat America's team, you look terrific, and then you come out after the game and take a not-so shuttle shot at Mike McCarthy. Here it is.

I just think we're just a more connected team this year. We're enjoying each other more. each other, I think, a little more. We hang out with each other. The locker room is a raucous environment, whether it's a, you know, a Monday, or whether it's right after a big win. I just think guys really really play for each other more. And we have that chemistry that because of the leadership that we have, maybe we've been lacking the last couple years. I mean, come on. That's just a shot at McCarthy, right? Did you really have to go there? It was a night you should have just said, how much fun was that? Go Packers.

Okay. I'm going to take this a few different ways. Okay. So when Mike McCarthy got fired, one of the first things Aaron made sure we all knew was that it wasn't his fault and that their relationship was good. Like, we all knew that it was fractured, but it was, you want to portray that something is better than what it is until it's not. And that's what Aaron Rogers was doing. It was all good. It was all good. And then you feel for someone when they lose their job.

Sure. Now there's been time that has passed. And let's face it, he knew what the reality was last year with Mike McCarthy and he and his relationship. And it was what his comments are true. Like his comments are true. Is it a shot? Yes, it's a shot because it's Aaron Rogers and that's what we've come to know.

But I don't think he was taking it. I don't think he was directing that at Mike McCarthy. Who he directed into that? I think he was just making a generalized statement of what he feels. And sometimes when you're asked the question, you're answering that question and then you start to say things of how you really genuinely feel. And you think like, well, I shouldn't have said that because they're going to take that the wrong way. Well, the leadership last year we didn't have.

That's kind of a shot at McCarthy. I mean, it could be a shot at McCarthy. It could be the leadership within the locker room has changed defensively. With the Smith, the bookends, they didn't have that. They had Clay Matthews, but he was on his way out. So I can see you think I'm reaching on this. No, I don't think you're reaching. I don't think you're reaching because it's Aaron.

And we know Aaron to make these subtle jabs. You know, this is. This is Facebook. After you get divorced, never been happier. That's what it is. It's early marriage. For most, it's early, any type of relationship. Everything is great and bliss because you haven't really experienced adversity.

You haven't heard all the chatter once the adversity hits. Aaron did have a couple of, and I like this, frankly, Aaron and Matt LaFleur on the sidelines disagreed. I think it's incredibly healthy. If you watch that, that part I like. I like them going back and forth. Aaron voices his opinion. LeFleur does. It's healthy.

When you think about it, that's what did not happen with Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers. It was, I'm coming to the sideline. I'm so disturbed at what just transpired. I'm not going to even acknowledge it. I'm just going to walk to the bench, sit down, forget it. Sometimes he would stay in the huddle. There were times during timeouts. Aaron did know us go over to the sidelines.

Yeah, I mean, that's not always, well, no, yeah, you do typically go to the sidelines as a quarterback. I'm trying here. I'm trying here. Okay. Yeah. All right, so let's shift to Dak Prescott. Okay, I'm a supporter of Dak, but there are moments. I was telling Joy. My wife makes fun of me because before we've ever bought a house, I tend to circle it. I drive by it at night, day, day, weekends. I want to see how it looks in all its glory. Absolutely. And I want to see what's the traffic flow in the day, night, what's the neighborhood like in the day, night, and I like Dak. Well, you don't have any traffic because you're back, fence. Like seven acres. Yeah, talk about it.

So, but I watched Dak yesterday. I'm still circling before I write that check. I got to be honest. That makes me, if I'm Jerry, I'm pulling about five mil off the table. I got to pause on that, Greg. Like that, that's here, his last two games against good defenses, his quarterback, his passer ratings in the 70s. Yeah, when you look at Dak Prescott, he is, he's definitely hurting himself because he's not been winning

these games outright on his own. And I'm saying on his own because it's typically on the shoulders of Dak Prescott. When we saw them last week against New Orleans, the game was on his shoulders. It's like, okay, what are you going to do? I would say this.

It's a challenge for a guy like Dak Prescott when I feel like you are asked to, okay, don't lose the game versus go win the game. So you're thinking he's being told don't lose it's it's not so much that he's being told that but by the way that he plays it's it's we the Dallas cowboys haven't proven that we're 100% sold on this guy and he's just

our guy and we're going to send him off there and say win the game for us that if if that was the case they would have already paid him and so my point is he's being shown by actions that as a player when a coach you know when a coach has the ultimate in a organization has the ultimate respect and belief in you when they just tell you, go do what you do. Go win the game for us. But that's not who he is. And they know that. That's my point.

They're telling him things like, all right, let's take care of the ball. All right, let's be smart. Well, that's not exuding confidence when I go out on the field. I guarantee you when they look at Amari Cooper, they're looking at Amari Cooper like, let's go make plays. Go make a play for us. that's a different mentality that you're walking on to the game field with versus a coach telling you or a coordinator telling you,

all right, let's be smart on this possession. Yeah, no, I, to some degree, I think, I'm just watching that last night and I'm like, I'd rather get it right than be right. And I'm like, I can't look at Aaron and Dak on the same TV set. No, they're no. Not even close. They're not even close. But you have to also consider where do you go from here if you're Dallas?

If you say, okay, we're not going to sign DAC, we're going to try to figure this out. Well, he's not a bad quarterback. No, no, no, no, no. He is not. He can win games for them. He can win the division for you. But the problem that I see with the Dallas Cowboys and that we're all starting to see is that can be fine. You can have a great team and they can win a lot of games.

But in the playoffs, you need players. You need guys that are going to step up. And when you do send them on that football field, you can say, go get this done for me. Go get a game. Go score. Go get a touchdown. Go catch a ball. Go make a play.

And that's just not what we're finding out Dak Prescott's strengths are. If the Cowboys were in the AFC this morning, I may think entirely different than I think about the Cowboys in the NFC, where I've got the Seahawks and the Eagles and the Packers and the Rams. I mean, the teams I don't even buy in the NFC, Minnesota are loaded. Yeah. The teams I don't buy in the AFC, you know, Jacksonville, I got Gardner Minshu marching you up and down the field. So I think some of this is Dallas is they're a good team, but there's too much great in the NFC.

And you saw it last night. Can you explain the Raiders? Like I always thought dysfunction, they make so much noise. but I'm watching them against the Bears offensively. They're fun. They got a running game. The O'Lines better. They stole a tight end from Baltimore.

I literally was watching them dominate Chicago. And I'm like, I can't explain it. This should not be three and two. Yeah, well, when I look at the Raiders, they weren't terrible offensively last year. Like, you think about what Derek Carr was able to do last year. He had some of his best numbers. He had arguably one of his best years in his career.

So there were building blocks to their success. And what we're seeing, I'm not sold on the Raiders, having said all that. But they do have a running game, right? They do have a running game. I like, I love everything about Josh Jacobs. And I love the, and one thing we do know about John Gruden, he wants to establish to run. And he wants to be physical up front. And that's what this offensive line in this running game provides.

A physicality. you look at what they did against the Chicago Bears. I was shocked. I mean, I think we all were. I was shocked. I think we all were. I'm like, really? They ran the ball right at the Bears.

Like punched them right in the mouth. A defensive team that is stout up front that is stout on all levels of their defense, and they do that to them. That was impressive. I was. I sat back and went, all right. But again, having said that I'm not quite so because the Bears can't score and they have their own.

and then who have the Raiders really beaten? By the way, Kansas City, ooh, firework shows. See, a lot of you guys are cool and lit and cool. I'm not, I'm boring. Here we go. Firework, hey, Kansas City got a big fireworks show. You know what puts a fireworks show out? Rain, cold weather, playoffs are outdoors.

You probably love Kansas City. I got my questions about Kansas City. You mean like last year? Ooh, fireworks show. See, this is what I want to halt. you and make sure you're aware of this. Yeah. Are they out there with a full deck?

Oh, injuries. My bad. It's a part of the game. I get it. It's going to dictate what you then look like on the field. And it did yesterday. Andrew Luck wasn't there for the cold. Defensively, they are who they are.

They're just, they're terrible with stopping the run. And if that doesn't change. So you're saying Tyree Kill changes everything. Tyree Kill and Sammy Watkins is out. Sammy Watkins started playing and got hurt. That's the NFL. It is the NFL. But if Patrick Mahomes has this full arsenal,

his full deck, that doesn't happen last night. Now, could they have been better? Yes, I will say this. When I think of what is going on with the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, it's starting to look a lot like what happened in Green Bay with Aaron Rogers. Tell me.

An awesome, amazing electric offense, defense is going to let you down every year. Defense let Aaron Rogers down and kind of stunt it. That's true. I'm starting to see this early with the Kansas City Chiefs. If they don't fix this defense, we're going to see a lot of what Patrick Mahomes could have done, should have done, would have had. But sat on the badge for most of the game and watched.

Those Brett Fav teams, Brett lost a lot of games watching the last four minutes. Yeah, I'm just saying they better fix something with that defense. You guys like fireworks shows. I love fireworks. I don't. Yeah, you do. Nope. I don't let my kids go to them.

Scares the dog, scares the kids. You know what we do? We stay home, eat TV dinners. That's just mean. And watch the news. Watched. Dude, that's fireworks right there. I watch clouds.

He yelled him. Greg Jennings, everybody. Join over the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, you guys were just talking about it. The expectations were low for Oakland coming into the season.

Lord. Pretty chaotic entrance to the season. But John Gruden was feeling good. after the Raiders 24-21 upset win over the Bears yesterday. Here he is in the locker room after the game celebrating with his team. I don't have a disco. Well, let's all start dancing. I'm 56 years old.

That's the most fun I've ever had tonight, man. I'm so proud of you. You have no idea. I mean, we've been through a roller coaster already, but what you proved today is one day. You can beat anybody anywhere on any time time. Watch this. We're going to have a great flight home.

We have some injuries. I want everybody to have a great bye week. You have the whole week off. Yeah, I love that. I want him as my boss. That was awesome. Yeah, it was. You know what?

I feel really good for the Raiders because we did not have any expectations of them this season. And it was looking like it was going to be a disaster. I think I said four and 12. I was totally wrong. Yeah. I mean, you thought it was going to be a dumpster fire. And the whole situation with Antonio Brown for them to get through that. Perfect just got kicked off the team.

Perfect. You know, they were under a lot of scrutiny after the Kaleo Mack trade. It really worked out for them. And then that being the game against Kalee Mack that he had been talking about all week, he was looking forward to. It just was a good, feel-good win for the Raiders. The other thing is, listen, that running back from Alabama, Joy, he is good. Like he is good.

Josh Jacobs had 223 yards on 26 carries against the bears. Yes. Who no one should be able to run on at all. I mean, these London games are always a little strange. That was my favorite London game ever. It was a great game. Yeah, usually it's like jags against Titans. It was a great game and it was competitive.

But they're also, you kind of just have to be a little careful with it because it is a neutral site. Like there's things can go. differently. And I was glad for the Raiders though. They obviously have a buy, as Gruden just said, and then they're back against the Packers, who have the Lions this week. So they come back off a Buy Joy

and do they host or go to Green Bay? They go to Green Bay. I'll tell you what. Both Green Bay and Oakland are great in the first half. We could have a wild shootout in that game. It would be interesting. And then they have the Texans the week after they're at Houston, and then they have the Lions

Chargers and Bengals at home. So. Interesting. If they can get a win in one of those games against the Packers and Texans, it could be pretty interesting for them after that. So Kyler Murray finally got his first NFL win on Sunday against the Bengals, two minutes to go in a tie game. Murray led the Cardinals 62 yards down the field,

set up the game-winning field goal. He finished with 253 yards in a career high, 93 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown. Watch this run right here. This was the game. That play was the game right there. Yeah, he won the game on that play. I got to be honest with you. Arizona's fun to watch.

They are fun to watch. He's fun to watch. And I don't want to describe it that win just because it's the Bengals. They're on the road. And he looks great. And this is like this is what you want to see. It's kind of similar to last week with Mason Rudolph. Like maybe it is the Bengals.

Maybe it's not the best game plan. But you got to get the wins however you can. Listen, you're winless, rookie coach, rookie quarterback on the road. Take it. Go home. And do it in a clutch moment. Yep. And the big moments are what you're looking for.

Like whether you should be tied with the Bengals or not as a different conversation. Like you're developing, like you said, it's a new quarterback, new coach. But get the win in a clutch moment. It was way to see for him. I told Whitlock, this was more of my favorite bats of the week. And Whitlock's like, I can't. I've been telling Whitlock, you've got to give Arizona a chance. He's like, I can't do this college coach thing.

This would have been the game to do it because it's the Bengals. Finally, let's just keep it all good news. Teddy Bridgewater has been a name for himself. in New Orleans and is taking over for Drew Brees. Yesterday, he had his best game as a saint with 314 yards, four touchdowns, one interception,

to remain unbeaten in three games as a starter. And after the game, he was very thankful for his opportunity with the Saints. I'm glad to be a part of this team, a part of this organization. It just feels good to be somewhere where you're accepted and you appreciate it. Every morning, I wake up,

I'm able to put my feet on the ground, I'm able to tie my own shoes. There was a time of my life where I wasn't able to do that. And I'm just able to come to work every day with this locker room, this group of guys, and demand greatness out of every one of them. And this locker room, they demand greatness out of me and out of each other. So when you can come to work and get the best out of everyone, you're winning in life. So we're able to win on the football field and in life.

So it's a great feeling. You know what? He's Mike Conley. Watch the Utah Jazz finished with 60 wins because they get Mike Conley. Because Mike Conley didn't have a 48-inch vertical, and because Teddy Bridgewater can't throw the ball 800 yards. Sometimes I want a grown-up who distributes. He's a grown-up.

You don't need someone to throw 800 yards. I don't. Teddy Bridgewater doesn't make any... I'll take four touchdowns. That's fine. I'll take 314 yards and four touchdowns. Am I crazy here? They're undefeated with a backup.

Is New Orleans the best team in the league? Seriously. Joy, who goes 3-0 against the Seax and Dallas? Seattle and Seattle, Dallas and Tampa with a backup quarterback. I'm sorry, but I don't know. I didn't think that the Saints were going to take that big of a step back this year. It was a little concerned about the emotional hangover from, you know, the bad call, but they seemed to have moved on from that.

Saints are a really good team, and they're proving that. And look, Teddy Bridgewater, you know, he's no scrub. And no one ever considered him to be that. It's just that, you know, what happens when you lose someone like Drew Breese. But they look great. Yeah, they look fantastic. When with the backup, you're good. When three times with a backup, you're really good.

Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. Well, offensive line play was huge yesterday. Jeff Schwartz will join us in studio. Minnesota got their act together. Green Bay got their act together. We'll talk about that coming up.

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Played just shy of a decade in the NFL, Panthers, Giants, Vikings, Chiefs. All right, Kansas. I want to hear you defend Kansas City because I watched teams yesterday. The Colts didn't have Darius Leonard, Andrew Luck, Maloney. leak hooker, Packers didn't have Devonthe Adams, and Kansas City this morning didn't have a couple receivers and the world come crashing down. They got a problem. They can't stop the run.

The Colts average 4.6 yards of play yesterday. That's it. They had 19 points. The defense as much as they got railed on, didn't play terribly bad. The problem was the offense, right? The offense was down. Left tackle, left guard, two best wide receivers and their quarterback was a little beat up.

Defensively, by the way, they were missing Chris Jones and they missed Frank Clark for of the game as well. The middle linebacker got hurt. So they had a lot of injuries too. And they played a poor game. It was their first bad game in the last 23 appearances for the offense. So the first bad, so last week Detroit wasn't a bad game. It was sloppy, but they still scored an offense. 27 points in offense fumbled three times. So they still move the ball. They won an ugly game, which happens, right? We saw the Patriots win an ugly game in Buffalo. The problem is, is this going to continue against Houston? You can ignore it for one week, but the problems

are still there. I thought the Patriots would win the Super Bowl this year. I still believe that. I think the Chiefs will play them in New England in the Hancy Championship game. That does not change. But if injuries continue to mount up and 15 is not healthy, I don't know that guy. If 15 is not healthy, that's going to be an issue for them. Here's my thing with Mahomes is that, listen, no look, kind of looking, sort of looking.

It's a lot of fun, but you know you got a put to win on the tour. Yes. Okay. I don't want to hear about hole in ones. Okay, there's a lot of this. The Twitter gushes over Mr. Fancy Pass, but at some point, point, this game is situational.

Is at least not fair to say we're hyperventilating on a lot of stuff that doesn't win games in this league? That is social media in a nutshell. I will say, I think Mahomes has, I don't know if regressed is the white word, but he's missed open guys he did not miss last year. Okay, that's it. He is

missing open receivers. And I don't know if that's because he's hurt because he's had that ankle problem now for a couple weeks. He cannot step into throws. I don't know if his footwork is sloppy this year because he's making all those great plays, but he has missed open guys. There's no doubt about that. It's made him a little bit more human now, but even being a tiny bit more human now, he's one of the best three quarterbacks the NFL. And look, let's get

Tyreekill back. Let's get Watkins healthy. You know, teams, the kind of blueprint is a little out now, right? Man coverage, get real physical with the wide receivers. They mentioned they got to beat man coverage. And, you know, defensively, got to stop the run a little bit. I think they'll be okay. But they play Houston this week. Coming to Kansas City, if they don't play well this week, that's three weeks in a row now, then there's a little bit of concern. So tonight we have what I consider is one of the better Monday Night Football matchups. So I watched Baltimore and Pittsburgh yesterday.

That was almost put bars up. Pittsburgh can't pass because they're on their third quarterback. And Baltimore can't pass because Lamar Jackson has regressed. I'm watching Cleveland tonight. And if Cleveland's in the Bay Area watching that game, remember, Cleveland's got Seattle coming up, New England coming up at Denver and Buffalo is not. No joke. I think Cleveland has to win this game tonight. Does it worry you?

Yes, because they have not played well in these games where they play good teams. I think Niners might not be 3 and 0 that good. You know, we've got undefeated teams, but they're a good team. And you give Shanahan a week to prepare an extra week. The offense is going to have some crazy stuff. I cannot wait. They're going to have throwback passes. They're going to have screens. They're going to have all this crazy stuff. Play action passes, all that stuff. They're going to, you know, try to take advantage of using Cleveland's speed on defense, especially up front against them, and that screen game draws, things like that. And the Browns historically, under Baker-Mayfield, it's only been a year and a half,

haven't played well in these big games. Now, Baltimore was a good start. He actually plays really well against. I think 900 yards passing in three games against Baltimore. So I'm excited to see them having to play this game on national television against a well-rested Niners team. If they win this game, I think they might have overcome that early bump in the season. If they don't, then I think we're looking at them saying, can they be that team? Yeah, to me, Baker Mayfield,

prove you're a number one pick. You're going on the road with a young roster. Your division, I think it's the worst division in football. AFC North, I think it's definitely the most anemic offensively in an offensive era. So Baker, shut me up, number one pick, win. All right, am I, let me throw this at you. Aaron Rogers, after the game, great looking, supermodel looks, $100 million in the bank, do we have the videotape, goes out,

the Cowboys on top of the world, his girlfriend is there, and offers this after the game. I just think we're just a more connected team this year. We're enjoying each other more. We like each other, I think, a little more. We hang out with each other. The locker room is a raucous environment, whether it's a, you know, a Monday, or whether it's right after a big win. I just think guys really really play for each other more, and we have that chemistry that, because of the leadership that we have that maybe we've been lacking the last couple years. Okay, I'm not even going to comment your opinion on that. Look, if we bash Baker Mayfield for the same thing,

Aaron Rogers also should have deserved to get a little bash for that. That last line was unneeded. It was uncalled for. You had just gone on the road. You beat a good Dallas Cowboys team. Your offense looked functional all the game. Your defense had kind of returned to the form that we thought it might be. And there's no reason to take that shot.

Like, you're just starting to build up this chemistry with your new head coach. Your young player, especially on defense. You know, you had backups play this week at wide receiver. They're doing a good job for you. Why talk about last year? Just enjoy the victory. The people that were in the building know what happened the last couple of years. You don't have to convince everybody that things are new now.

You won. Yes, the coach is gone. And you just, what, 31 to 3 in Dallas against a team that three weeks ago we talked about in the Super Bowl? Like, there's, I don't know if it's going to keep him from winning, but that I just, Just focus on your team during the season. You know, I just, there's no need for that. So Washington has fired their coach today. You played for the Vikings, Chiefs, Giants, Panthers.

Joy and I have talked about this. This, to me, you can make fun of Miami, but I feel like they have a plan. You can poke fun at the Jets, but they have six or seven elite players in that locker room. Miami is a mess. They fired Jay Gruden today, who I think can coach, has built some really nice offenses in staff. reportedly Dan Snyder wanted Dwayne Haskins, Jay Gruden and the staff did not, and the owner meddled. Have you ever been in a locker room or been on a team that felt as dysfunctional or close as Washington?

Not that dysfunctional. We did have a time where on Carolina in that uncapped year between 2010 and 2011, in 2010, I should say, before the new CBA kicked in where our owner cut everyone over 30. Like we were trying to tank, but we knew it. We knew we were going to be bad. And he didn't meddle in the personnel decisions like that. But look, I think we often see the best organizations in the NFL do a great job of pairing what the coaching staff wants and needs with what the front office wants and needs. Right. They combine them together.

Yes. The Redskins obviously aren't that at all, right? So the coaching staff says, I don't really like Dwayne Haskins. There's a reason. They study the film. They don't like them for whatever reason. I'm sure they gave that reason to ownership. Ownership says, we're taking them anyways.

Well, how do you expect a coaching staff that doesn't believe in a player? to really coach him up and get him to where he needs to go. It's not going to happen. So Dwayne Haskins was doomed to fail with this staff. I think he can be a good player. The question is now, who are they going to get to come to Washington? Look at Riley, by the way, Redskins, not coming to Washington. It's not happening.

Yeah, so here's the thing. When you fire a coach, and I've said this for years, when Cleveland keeps firing coaches, you end up with Freddie Kitchens. Yes. Maybe Freddie Kitchens is good, but maybe he's not. When you have Baker Mayfield, you'd want a veteran head coach. So Washington now, go ahead and torpedo the season. First of all, no top college coach has taken that.

No top. So the Lincoln Riley out. And I would ask you what top coordinator, because we already know there's going to be two or three openings. There's about seven a year. I'm crossing Washington off the list. Like if you're Eric Biennemi in Kansas City's OC who is talked about for this job, you might have four opportunities.

You're not taking the Washington job. You go somewhere with a stable organization, stable owner. you might have to rebuild like Washington, but you're not going somewhere where the owner of medals. You're going to have, you know, Washington's going to end up with a retread. It's probably not a good coach. Jeff Schwartz, good stuff. Final hour, three-word game on a Monday next.

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Diet Red Bull occasionally. You ever have those energy drinks? You've never had one. Yeah, I've had one back in Vegas. You're like Mr. Joy, he drinks coffee that's like special coffee. Like this guy's in shape. With special coffee. It's a concoction, Joy, a mix. A minerals. Maka, coffee fruit extract, all that stuff. He's like a super coffee. Oh, he's always been, Tony's been into his body and stuff. By the way, this is an interesting part. Kansas City played last night. They have a bunch of injuries.

By the way, Indianapolis was missing Darius Leonard, Malik Hooker, and Andrew Luck. So as we get into October as a former player, is this where it's like every week is a struggle to play, struggle to practice? Take me to physically, the weather starts getting

cold, Tony. Kansas City is now 41 degrees in the morning. This time of the year in the NFL, does it feel different? It is different. At the beginning of the year, expectations are there. You're excited. your body feels pretty good, you know, coming out of camp. And then, you know, after the first four or five, first month,

that's when, you know, the monotony starts to set in. The routine starts to set in. So that's where, you know, this, it's kind of like the beginning of camp where the first week and a half you see people shine and you see people explode and they're doing so well. And I remember I'd always see guys that maybe weren't even drafted. I'm like, that guy's good. He's really good.

A couple weeks later, three weeks later. Disappear. He's gone. You know, he was catching balls at the beginning of the, of the camp first three, four days when he was fresh, but it's a mental grind. That's the thing. And that's where greatness comes in, the guys that can sustain that mentality and that drive and that focus throughout the whole season and getting over the physicality part of it.

When you watch Kansas City struggle, is it an injury issue? What do you make a home? He looks like he's come back down to Earth a little, or is it just they're beat up on the O line, they're beat up in the receiving core. The NFL keeps, they're going to keep adapting to you. They're going to see, okay, this is what they've been doing great. We're going to take that away now. And so as the NFL keeps seeing more film on you,

they're going to start recognizing your moves. They double team now, Travis Kelsey. Both the lions and the Colts have taken him out of the game. Yeah, and I was like about time. That's what they used to do to me. You're going to get double team. That's what you do. And then injuries, their offensive line and defensive line last night did not look good.

Kansas Chiefs didn't. It didn't look good. They were getting whooped by Indies offensive and defensive line. And a lot of some of that is injuries. And so when that happens, you got to make adjustments. And that's all part of it. It's a loss is a loss. It's fine.

Nobody's panicking. They're still a good football team. But this is the stuff you go through as an NFL season. By the way, so Dak Prescott, he's not a blank check guy. You just don't write a blank check. But I will say this is, you know, Jerry has offered everybody a contract and most of them early. And he hasn't offered DAC one. Do you think that's a coincidence, or do you believe this morning Jerry does have some reservations about paying him 35 and wants to pay him 27?

I would think so. Wouldn't you think so? I mean, he's got the money. I think they have the cap space to do it. So I don't know for sure. But if you believe in your guy. But they don't. Do they?

Then you pay him. How do you watch? You can't watch that annex to Aaron Rogers and think that's $35 million. You can't. You can't. But, I mean, the quarterback position. the way it is we were talking about this last night. It's not like other positions in the NFL.

Quarterbacks, they always leapfrog each other. No matter how good you are. If you're just the next man up, you get more money than the guy before, which I couldn't stand. It's like when I was negotiating for myself or a tight-in, it was, okay, you're the highest-paid tight-in in the league. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm also one of the best or the best or whatever. People are saying that.

So I want to get more money. There's no one to negotiate against. I'm negotiating against. myself where quarterbacks, they're just negotiating whoever signed the next deal, well, I should get more in him. I should get more in him. And I think, Jerry, for sure, there's something going on there. They would have gave this kid his money already.

What did you, Aaron put on a clinic last night, then after the game took a shot at McCarthy. But the overall, like when you watch Green Bay, so in the last two weeks, I've watched their defense get manhandled, and then I watched their defense be great. In both, Aaron's been very good, especially early in the game. What do you make of Green Bay? I like them a lot. I like them a lot. They're a dangerous football team because the defense is pretty good.

Aaron is Aaron, so he's going to be special. And with Devante Adams, you know, it doesn't even matter. It's like we had talked about this yesterday. Are you walking back your statement? No, no. I mean, I never believe that Devonte Adams was an excuse. Just go out and win. You're Aaron Rogers.

And he did. Yeah, he did. It was great. Yeah, he did great. He did great. I think Green Bay, nobody wants to play against them. nobody especially out there in Lambo I think them looking like

this is the team that you could see getting these are one of the they can get hot they're also big the receivers are big their tight ends big Aaron Jones is physical like their offensive weapons are sick Devonthe Adams was out he's big they're a matchup issue who wants to play them

yeah Green Bay is one of those teams where just physically they've got so many long you can tell the organization went out of its way to get tall receivers to help Aaron in the red zone like their whole roster feels like an NBA team. It's all six, five guys on the outside. So, you know, it's funny.

So I'm talking to Joy about this. So Teddy Bridgewater is now undefeated as a backup. And generally speaking, backups are a notch down. But did you ever have to play? I think Teddy's the best backup in the NFL. And when you're a backup, it's weird. Because now it's your team, but it's not really your team. So you've got to tread lightly.

Like when I take a day off, Doug Gottlieb does the show, but it's still the herd behind it, right? Yeah. So like whenever I would fill in for somebody when I was starting out doing this business, it was always their show. I try to be respectful. But in the NFL, the backup quarterback,

you can't be too respectful. It's your team. What do you make of Bridgewater's performance so far? It's been spectacular. It's the stuff movies are written for. Imagine, you know, they come back, Drew gets back, they take a round. Because right now, I believe they are the best,

team in the NFC. I'm not sure they're not the best team in the league because I got to tell you, Tony, what don't they do well? Are you looking at them right now? They look outstanding. They got a number one corner. Marshawn Latimore. Best player in the league? Maybe. Coming into it, isn't he?

I think he and Aaron Donald. I think Latimore could be the best player in the league. Best player in the league? At his position? Yes. And I said this yesterday and I got a little pushback. I'm saying this guy's the best corner in the league because we didn't get time after the game to do our overtime show. but I was going to game balls,

I was going to give it to Marshawn Lattermore. I was going to say what he did against Mike Evans and what he did against Cooper last week. Yeah. He's shutting the best. But they got that. And Mike Thomas is so strong. They got a running game.

They have a top five quarterback when Drew's back. A top five receiver. A top five running back. A top five corner. And I would say, what are the, what are their sack totals on the year? A top five defensive end.

Oh, Jordan. Cameron Jordan. They're loaded. Yeah, no, they're loaded. I think I missed on that team. All right, so the Raiders are a marginally functional mess, but they went to Chicago yesterday and won. Now, generally, it's your belief that if a team's highly functional,

they've got grown-ups, it's better. What do you make of the Raiders? You know what, here's my theory on this. So they gave John Gruden a 10-year contract because of this, Tony, that they were a lame duck franchise. They were moving to Vegas. And so the owner thought, listen, here's three brands. Raiders, Gruden, Vegas.

So if I can move, those are three separate brands. John Gruden left Monday Night Football. It's not the same broadcast. Vegas is a brand. The Raiders are a brand. So if you hire Gruden for 10 years, what you're saying is, for the next 10 years, this is my new brand. A TV star is a head coach, Vegas and Oakland, and the Raiders brand.

And I'm watching them yesterday, and I'm like, you know what? they're easy to watch, they're fun. I can't wait till they get to Vegas. That was my takeaway. Most teams in this league that I don't think are great, Cincinnati's a hard watch, Miami's a hard watch, the Jets are a hard watch, Washington's a hard watch. I'm like, even if the Raiders went like seven and nine, I'm like, that's a good watch, right? Yeah, it's a fun watch.

It's a fun watch. Do you buy them? Buy them as far as a good football? Yeah, I do. I think, imagine Antonio Brown would have worked out for him. I mean, they would be better. And if they keep getting players, that's why with John Gruden, you look at him in the moves he's making, getting rid of Khalil,

Mack, who's a dominant, probably him and Aaron Donald, best defensive players, and you're like, what is he doing? But you might have to trust the process here. And let's just see, because honestly, we don't know. They could hit the ground running here in a couple years. Listen, their offensive draft picks have been good. Derek Carr, the offensive lines better. Yeah.

It's funny. You know, my only knock on John was he told me I didn't want, he told us I don't want stars. And then he went out and he paid for A.B. If he just doesn't get A.B., then his whole, like thing he's doing makes more sense. But when he said, I don't want stars. I want to get character guys. And then he got A.B. and Vantes Burr. I'm like, no, now they're talking about both sides of your mouth.

Yeah. But now that A.B's out of the room, it's like I watched that. Do we have that post game stuff after the game? the team's into him. Yeah. I mean, raw, raw stuff sometimes doesn't work. Here's Gruden after the game. I don't have a disco.

Well, let's all start dancing. I'm 56 years old. That's the most fun I've ever had tonight. I'm so proud of you. You have no idea. I mean, we've been through a roller coaster already. But what you prove today is one thing. You can beat anybody anywhere on any

time song. We're going to have a great flight home. We have some injuries. I want everybody to have a great bye week. You have a whole week off. Did you ever have a coach tell you that? Yeah, all the time. I'm more skeptical, though.

Cynical. Cynical. I'm sorry. When they're like, yeah, you get the day off, I'm like, we should get the day off. We should. I'm not jumping around telling you, thank you, thank you. He gave him a week. Give him a week off, Tony.

I've had that before. Yeah, we've got the whole week off. So a coached it like that? Yeah, he did it like that. And that's good win. And we're taking the whole week on. What would you go? If you were a Raider today, where would you go?

I'd probably stay over there for a little bit. You'd stay in London. I'd go give me a croissant down in Paris or something fly over to Paris. Yeah, you're kind of an international bond-bevant, aren't you? Yeah, yeah. Or if I was young, maybe I would head over to a Beezer or something. Look at him. He's international.

Just for a couple days and then get back to the grind, though, because we're coming off a win. Season's still young. We can turn this thing around. Those guys are feeling good about themselves. And how great is great is great. Gruden. I mean, that gets me a little fired up right there. No, I like, I mean, listen, when I, at ESPN, when I was there, people used to kind of,

Gruden, and I used to always say, that's what a television star looks like. Yeah. When people start doing impressions of you, you're a television star. Yeah, he's a W-W-E or Smackdown type guy. He's good. By the way, that's actually really good for the league. Yeah. That's charisma.

Thank you. And he's got, he's always, that's why he was so great at his Monday night football job, but Heck, you wouldn't want to go play for that? You don't think that'd be kind of fun? Structurally, I don't love the organization, but I'll tell you, I made this promise last week, Joy, if the Raiders finish 8 and 8, I will buy two season tickets and give them to a charity. Because I banged on them so hard. If they go 8 and 8, I'm buying two season tickets, give them to kids, I'll figure the charity part out. Yeah.

So because I have no problem acknowledging, I whiffed on this. I thought they would be a circus. So did I. And their offense, they draft that kid from Alabama, they can run the ball. Time of possession. They kept it away. They ran right at the Bears. I was blown away by it.

Don't you think, too, when he was in the Monday night and interviewing all these coaches and seeing what works for them and seeing the personalities of the kids that they bring, the guys they're bringing on the teams, you've got to be able to notice that. He's a smart guy and say, this works, this works, this works. I'm going to do it this way. Well, the quarterback camp, all he did was stay updated on the college offenses

because Gruden lives on a golf course. He would drive 15 minutes. I know exactly where this thing is. He would go to his quarterback room. and he would watch tape all day. He wasn't one of these coaches that he lived on a golf course, but he didn't golf all day. John drove into tape all day long. That's what he did.

And it's worked. Tony Gonzalez, good seeing you, bud. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, John's having a good day to day. Jay Gruden not so much.

The Redskins have fired their head coach, Jay Gruden, and it's six seasons in Washington. He had a 35, 49, and one record, including the O&5 start the season. One trip to the playoffs in 2015, assistant head coach and offensive line coach. Bill Callahan will be the interim head coach. Yeah. And Redskins President Bruce Allen spoke today. He was asked if the owner will have some answers for fans. Oh, boy.

Is Dan Snyder not addressing the fans today? Because I am. Will there be an opportunity to talk to Dan about the franchise that he owns at some point. Yeah, Dan's makes themselves available from time to time. He also said they're thrilled to have Dwayne Haskins there. They think the future is very brights and whatever gives Coach Callie and the formula for success. I'm sure he's going to do. When I was a kid, I'm going to go back 30 years, 40 years ago. The most rabid fans in the league, I really believe this were like Raider fans and Redskinned fans, like 34 years ago.

It was the, I mean, did you watch the stadium yesterday? I swear to God it was 50% Patriot fans. I'm not joking. It was half Patriot fans. It's incredible. I just don't know what their plan is. I don't like the firing of Jay Gruden. I don't, I mean, I understand that Callahan has been a head coach before and it's been in the league a long time.

But you're trying, you took Dwayne Haskins for a reason. You wanted to develop him. Then you fire Jay Gruden five games into the season. Obviously, O'N5 is not how you want to start. But you lost Alex Smith. You don't know what you're doing at quarterback. Good luck for the next. You're not getting a candidate either.

This is like, this is like toxic. Who's, who's, that's my point. Like, who's taking this job? No. The idea of that you're going to fire him so that you can get ahead of everyone in the coaching search. It's such a short. Get ahead of who? For what?

It's such a short-term game plan to fire coaches in the season. Because what you're telling coaches and scouts and executives is will humiliate you and your family in October. Like, this is such poison throughout the coach. coaching fraternity. It shows that you have no stability. It shows that you have no plan. It shows that you're definitely willing to bail if things don't go the way that you plan for them to go because all the stories are that Dwayne Haskins wasn't his guy.

That's not Dwayne Haskins' fault or Jay Grooms' fault. It should be the coach's decision who the quarterback is going to be. Now, if it's solely the coach's decision and he messes it up, then it's on the coach. But we all know it wasn't just the coach's decision. So right now the draft would be Miami as number one, Washington would draft second, Cincinnati third, and the Jets, by the way, will win games with Sam Darnold. So Miami would take two, Washington wouldn't take a quarterback. Cincinnati will take Justin Herbert.

Who's another crappy team right now that'll end up with very few wins? It's funny because there's not the dregs are, because the Jets are going to end up winning plenty of games. Miami, Washington, Cincinnati are the dregs of the league. So those are your first three picks. Two will take quarterbacks. But that doesn't fix the rest of the team. Well, I mean, and by the way, the next coach is going to have to believe Dwayne Haskins is the guy because that's who the owner. And he might not.

So it's like, now you've got two things working against you. It's not a well-run team. And I have to love Dwayne Haskins or I'm not taking that job. You have to love Dwayne Haskins or you have to believe that you're going to be allowed to pick your own guy. And then when it comes to meddling owners, it just, that's not something that changes or stops because I have this belief that eventually I'm going to get it right. But you can't fire the owner. So you continue to fire coaches, continue to have turnover. It never ends.

So Baker Mayfield is no stranger to media backlash, and he's not shied away from his critics. Odell, though, thinks that the media should keep taking shots of him because it keeps Baker motivated. I think I would just encourage everyone who talks about Baker on the media to keep antagonizing them and to keep making them mad because that's what you're going to get. This is somebody who's been fueled off of that all his life.

And the more you poke fun at him, the more he's going to poke back. So I just love to see him in his element and just being him. Even my wife said she'd watch this game with me tonight. That's how big of a game it is. It is a big game. She's like, I'll watch the Baker-Mayfield guy. I think it's more important for Baker and the Browns than it is for the 49ers.

Yeah, because Cleveland's schedule, Seattle, New England, at Denver and Buffalo. Listen, that Denver thing sounds easier than it is until you play. No, they didn't look bad yesterday. No, they jumped. It's all over the charges early. The one thing I will say about this, though, with Baker going back at critics, I feel like this is something that the Patriots do in a more refined way. Like, they always find ways, even though they're winning, to get bulletin board material. And, you know, they're very highly complimentary of their opponents.

But then somehow, some way, somebody's going to say something to doubt them and then just use that as fuel to, like, see, nobody believes in us. We're still the underdog, even though they're clearly not. I think Baker's just in the beginning stages of this. This is clearly his personality to have a chip on the shoulder and look for things. And, you know, people are still obviously saying things about him, so that works. Finally, Deshawn Watson had the game of his life against the Falcons Sunday, against your Falcons, who failed on now. He threw for career high 426 yards and five touchdowns tied his personal best. He's the first player.

Time to throw, actually. Yeah, to throw for over 400 yards against the Falcons since 2012. And he's also the first player to throw for at least 400 yards and five touchdowns with five or fewer incompletion. in a game in NFL history. And Kenny Stills didn't play? So Houston got crushed for getting Laramie Tundell and Kenny Stills and giving up all the picks. But they protect his butt now, and Kenny Stills was playing great. You start looking at this Houston team.

They got a lot of interesting weapons. Will Fuller had an incredible game yesterday, 14 receptions, 217 yards, and three touchdowns. Next week against Kansas City, that's going to be a great game. Like, that might be the game of the year. Sean Watson protected Kansas City coming off of bad loss at home I didn't see a time I'm going to watch the replay of this

Greg you're our resident Houstonian how did Duke Johnson play He had I think 70 yards rushing Okay yeah he was fine Okay him and Carlos Hyde had about seven yards each So I'm telling you They get the offensive line fixed That's a real football team

Oh I love Houston this year But that's the issue you got to protect Sean Watson and give him some time Yeah good stuff joy with the news Well that's the news And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. All right, one of my favorite things of the week,

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Discover.com slash travel. Starting last Thursday, every Thursday the schedule begins. So we go back to the Rams and the Seahawks last Thursday, three-word game, describing every NFL game from Thursday Ram Seahawks to last night Chiefs Colts. Here we go. Ram Seahawks' most dangerous team. Well, Russell Wilson put on an absolute clinic. He currently leads the NFL in passing touchdowns, passer rating, zero intercept.

That's with Doug Baldwin retiring. And one of his leading receivers is a blocking tight end, Will Disley, and a seventh round running back. He remains the most unique quarterback of my adult life. Jags Panthers, CMC for MVP. Christian McCaffrey right now deserves MVP votes because they can't depend on Kyle Allen when Cam's gone. they need a running game. He leads it in rushing yards, scrimmage yards. They've won three straight games yesterday.

I think his size actually is an advantage. He can hide behind that big offensive line. He joins Jim Brown is the only player since at least 1950 with four games of 175 plus scrimmage yards and a TD in the first five games of this season. Even his like two-yard rushing touchdowns, are highlight real worthy. Cardinals Bengals. Kiders first win.

Only sacked one time for the record. I'm not giving the Arizona offensive line a ton of credit for that. He's fun. I had him in my blazing five. He's got 126 completions, which incidentally is the most ever for any quarterback in the league's history through five games. And what that tells you is it's a little like Andrew Luck

when he came to Indy. Arizona is saying, guess what? We're putting it on you, brough. Go make plays. And that may end up with some ugly interceptions and some ugly games. But Arizona is telling you, unlike the Steelers with all their quarterbacks, we think you can make plays. Here's the ball. Here's the game. Go for it. And I think in years, this will pay off. They put a ton on his shoulders and he's been fun. Falcons, Texans, finally no sacks. First time this season and just the second. Second time in his career, Deshaun Watson in 28 starts wasn't sacked.

He was magnificent, 426 passing yards. They have wonderful talent. They're 6 and 0, by the way, when Watson gets sacked once or less. This is why they made the Laramie Tunzel deal. I don't care about the first round picks. They have a left tackle for the next six or seven years. This team's getting very interesting now. They pick up Duke Johnson.

They get the left tackle fixed. Keep your eye on the Texans. Buck Saints. League's best backup. Well, Teddy Bridgewater is completing 75% of his throws and his passer ratings 108.5. And that's a pretty good backup. What is he now, 15 and 6 and 21 career starts? He's the Mike Conley of the NBA.

Smart, leader, distributor, and he hits a couple of buckets. They've got all sorts of nice weapons. He's a grown-up, can deliver the ball accurately. Alvin Camara, Michael Thomas, smart head coach, Teddy Bridgewater's working, baby. Vikings Giants making receivers happy. Finally, Adam Thielen. It's a bumpy week for Minnesota, right? The receivers complainant Stephon Diggs didn't want to practice.

Adam Thielen had seven catches. He had 130 yards. Take a deep breath. has got players, everybody's happy. Bears Raiders. Gruden goes global. By the way, Gruden has won back-to-back games now,

first time since 2008. They've got a running game. They went right at the Bears' defense with that running offense. Their tight ends are great. Listen, their offensive draft picks and their offensive free agents have been good. We know Gruden knows offense.

Derek Carr looks very comfortable. They kept Kaleel Mack mostly silenced. That was a jaw dropper for me. My favorite pick of the day was Chicago, and the Raiders shut me up. Jets Eagles, play again, Sam. Oh, Lord, do you know the Jets have more defensive and special teams touchdowns than offensive touchdowns this year? For all of you doubting Sam Darnel, when he comes back,

if you don't think Sam Darnold's special, They were actually in some shootouts last year. Now, they weren't winning most of them. This team, 28 quarters, four touchdowns. They are literally completely inept without Sam Darnold. And they've got all sorts of players. So don't tell me that it's just Sam Darnold is the difference between not scoring and winning games. Raven Steelers.

That was ugly. Baltimore won, and I feel worse about him. They lost at Kansas City, and I felt better about him. Pittsburgh can't pass because they're on their third quarterback. I'm not sure if Baltimore can pass, period. This is a real growing stage for Lamar Jackson. You can't sell all your stock, but you are seeing certain coverages. He really, really struggled yesterday.

There's no way to get around it. It has to make Cleveland feel like the division is theirs. if Cleveland can win tonight. Bill's Titans, forget the Titans. They did a movie, remember the Titans? Forget the Titans. They're 0-2 at home. Now, this is the strangest organization in football

because they look great and then they're terrible. They were unbelievable against Cleveland. They were great against Atlanta. And yesterday it was just field goal, field goal, field goal. Is there any other team that's better against New England that they are at home against Buffalo? I don't think there is. Patriots Redskins.

worst run franchise. Haven't won a playoff game since 2005. Dan Snyder fired his coach today. You know, lost in all this is Tom Brady had a 300-yard game. New England's running game got back on track. But if you look at bad teams in professional football, they all have one thing in common. Only one thing.

Lousy ownership. Lousy leadership. This is an organization that hired Jim Zorn as a coordinator before they hired a head coach. No head coach would agree to a job. They gave it to Zorn and had to fire him. Broncos Chargers. The other game.

Yeah, that was the other game besides the Packers and Cowboys. It was actually on TV last night that nobody watched. Broncos led 17-0-0 in the second quarter, won the game. You didn't watch it. Frankly, I didn't either. Packers Cowboys. The other Aaron. Boy, was Aaron Jones good.

Holy moly was Aaron Jones good. He currently leads the NFL with eight rushes. touchdowns. Played at U-TEP. I didn't watch him in college, but 19 rushes, 107 yards, four touchdowns,

also led the team in receptions. How great is it when Aaron Rogers not only has this great running back, but he's a receiving back? That is such an advantage. Aaron Jones, man, if that guy can stay healthy,

can you imagine playing football at U-TEP and get drafted and your quarterback is Aaron Rogers? I mean, you talk about You talk about getting a gift. You go from U-TEP to Aaron Rogers, and he is so valuable on that offense. How about Colts Chiefs? That's the blueprint.

Colts had the ball for 37 minutes. They rushed it 45 times for 180 yards. Now, I do think Kansas City will bounce back. But 10 days ago, I watched Aaron Rogers sit on the sidelines and watch the Eagles run the ball. And last night, I watched Patrick Mahomes sit on the sideline and watch the Colts run the ball. by the way, Andrew Luck, Darius Leonard, Malik Hooker out, Colts go to Kansas City and win. Tip of the cap to the organization. Finally, Brown's Niners tonight.

Baker's Big Moment. Here it is. Here it is. So San Francisco has two weeks to prepare. This is a real challenge. But having watched the AFC North yesterday, you can take the lead in the United. the division with a win because you have the tiebreaker with Baltimore. Can Baker, number one pick, put the team on his shoulders, tough road assignment, and win

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