The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, moving on, and the Blazing 5

Episode Date: September 20, 2019

Colin talks about the doubters of Dallas Cowboys QB Dak Prescott, what worries him about Cleveland Browns QB Baker Mayfield, teams that are happy about moving on from certain players, and his Blazing 5 picks. Guests include Peter Schrager, Greg Jennings, Rich Ohrnberger, and Jason McIntyre. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Live in Los Angeles, this is the hurt. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. We're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1, one hour from now. Red Hot, baby, blazing five off of four in one week. It's a crazy line. Vegas lines this week. I'm going big dogs. Like last week I won heavy favorites, and I never do that.

This week I'm going on a lot of underdogs with just one or two little tiny exceptions. So Joy Taylor is joining me. Here we go on a Friday, Joy. This week has flown by. It has. It's a lot going on in the big weekend. Yeah, before I talk about that dreadful football game last night, I'm going to start with this. There's two quarterbacks in the NFL, and I think they're both going to win this week.

Jared Gough of the Rams and Dak Prescott. and I just, I think it's funny. I'm reading some stories about, you know, Dak Prescott this morning, and Amari is like, we work together. It's like certain foods work together, you know, like ketchup on a hamburger. We work together. And I thought, yes, they do obviously work very well together. And that was the moment for me when I bought into Dak completely.

When they brought in Amari Cooper and I'm like, okay, he's finally got a grown-up at wide receiver. He's finally got a young receiver in his prime. This is not Zeke's team. this is DAC's team and Amari's team. But it's funny, there's this idea that DAC has just had it perfect. You mean, come on, the offensive line. Injuries on the O line all last year.

Zeke is amazing and is missed games due to suspensions. Their wide receiving core was kind of atrocious his first year. Cole Beasley overrated and Des Bryant sort of a needy high maintenance. couldn't catch the ball at times or separate wide receiver and Jason Witten was old. We also have an owner who holds weekly press conferences. You do realize this is not the easiest team to quarterback. It's the most popular team. Every game's a primetime game.

The owner talks more than every other owner. You're running backs a star, but has had some judicial issues. And oh, by the way, Dak wasn't even getting a lot. elite coaching it appears in its first three years. What more do you need to see with him? Okay? He's clearly got a better OC now, so he didn't have an elite OC. Oline was beat up. Zeke's stuff.

Des the headcase. Witten was old. And Jerry never stops talking. We're making it sound like he got Andy Reed, Tyree Kill, Grado Line. No, he had all sorts of issues. He didn't have Brady's, I would say, reliability, coach, coordinator, line, weapons, defense. He didn't have any of that?

He didn't have Sean McVeigh. Here's my thing. How much more do you need to see with DAC? I've got 53 games. He's won 35 of them. He's won a division. He's won a playoff game. He's beating the Steelers, the Packers, the Eagles, and he's unbelievable at the podium.

You guys keep defending Cam Newton. I got 132 games. He's won 54 of them. I don't like him at the podium. He's now older and beat up. He can be moody. He's roller coaster cam. And you keep defending him.

I don't think it's that hard. Trust your eyes. You're usually right on this stuff. I needed to watch three games of Mitch Tribisky. I didn't care that he was winning. I'm out. I needed to watch two games of Carson Went, Andrew Luck, and Patrick Mahomes.

I was in. I don't think this stuff is terribly difficult. I think basically with Jared Goff, I bought into him when he went up against Patrick Mahomes, Monday night football, a game that was rescheduled late. Remember that? Because of the field in Mexico. And they brought him out here, and he outplayed Patrick Mahomes. I was like, all right, I'm in.

Where do I sign the check? And once Dak, remember that game with Jared Goff? Like, he literally was unbelievable. for throw. He was Mahomes without the turnovers. It was over. I made my decision that day. If you can go home, toe to toe in a game that gets moved late against Patrick

Mahomes and Andy Reed and it's a firework show and you win, I'm in. Give me the check. And when Dak Prescott finally got a non-needy wide receiver named Amari Cooper, a hardworking grown-up in his prime and went seven and one at the end of last year. I'm like

with offensive line issues, I was like all right, I'm in. Now you give me another layer with Kellan Moore who appears to really get him? I mean, what does, what does DAC have to do? Does he have to lose his entire offensive line, Zeke and Omari and Jason Witten, to meninitis? What do they call it? What does it call it? Mennigitis. They get meningitis. He has to go on the road and win in Foxborough. And then you're like, well, that was pretty impressive. He had all backups and they beat New England in Foxborough and it's a blizzard. Does that what you're looking for? Because I don't know.

know what more you have to see with these guys. I think it's really easy. And it's not just winning. Tribisky won. Never bought in. Tebow one. Never bought in. Vince Young won. Never bought in. We've got everything we need to see on golf. We've got everything we need to see on DAC. We know golf isn't a great athlete and we know DAC isn't a beautiful artistic thrower. All right. Tom Brady's not a great athlete. I'm good. Dak, Goff, I don't need to see anything. more. All right. So I'm watching last night as much as I could. It was awful. Of course it was. It was the Jags Titans. And, you know, Tennessee's now officially done with Marcus Mariotta. Why it took those so long I'll never understand. But think about this. So last year, Baltimore moved off Joe Flacco.

Why? They were honest with themselves. And they're happy now. The dolphins and the Jags moved off Tannahill and Bortles. The Giants just moved off Eli and Tennessee will now. move off Marcus Mario da. Like corporate America, keep up or get benched. Okay. Look around the league right now. I mean, Kyler Murray's been in the league for two weeks. He's thrown for 350 yards and 308.

Okay. I'm not all in yet, but I can see the door I'm about to knock on and open. stop trying to talk yourself into crappy quarterbacks. There's 16 of them I'm buying into. You can have the rest. I'm buying into Brady and Mahomes and Donald and Josh Allen and Russell Wilson and Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan and Breeze briefly. And Deshawn Watson, Philip Rivers, Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Carr, Dack,

Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rogers. Give me three more weeks for Kyler Murray, maybe four. That's half the league I'm in. Big Ben, Old and Hurt, out. Baker, Tukaki, out. Tribisky, pass. Cam, I'm over it. Dalton, Matt Stafford, sorry, combine, no playoff wins.

Half the league I'm in. Half the league I'm out. All these Big 12 spread offense quarterbacks from all over the country, they're all working. All of them. I mean, we've got young, schematic, idealistic, progressive, offensive coaches. Kellyn Moore. You're giving them to young guys, and they're all working.

Not like 50%, not 60, not 80. All of them not named Paxton Lynch. Even the guys I don't like, Trubisky, are winning. So, you know, Tennessee has been trying to convince themselves. I'm watching this game last night, and I'm laughing. And I knew Clay Travis was going to have a meltdown

because it's his favorite team, and I watched them on Twitter last night. I'm laughing. I'm thinking, Clay, 13 games last year. He had 11 touchdowns. Kyler Murray's got 650 yards in two weeks for the worst offensive line in the league. Why are people trying to convince themselves? Average is good.

Instead of being as a fan defensive about it, fans always get defensive. My guys get offensive. Just go draft another guy. Next year's draft has minimum four quarterbacks that the Greg Co-sells and the, you know, the Mel Kuiper types are already. like these are first round quarterbacks. And by the way, every single team that's moved off a guy, Baltimore did. They're happy.

Arizona did. They're happy. Kansas City moved off Alex Smith who was getting to the playoffs. They're happy. New York Giants, Daniel Jones, by Sunday afternoon, they'll be happy. These are not, stop being defensive. Like what you, people that, listen, if you look into the mirror and you think I put on 20 pounds, don't deliberate on that.

Sign up for a gym membership. Okay. Stop trying to convince yourself. Average is good enough. Patrick Mahomes doesn't take long. Your eyes are telling you the truth. All the teams that moved off there, guys, this morning, are happy. Baltimore's head over heels happy.

And the New York Giants will be by late in Tampa Sunday afternoon. Good stuff, by the way. the Kansas City Baltimore game, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson is one of my blazing five picks. It's going to be a wildly entertaining game. And I will say this about all these quarterbacks. I grew up with pocket quarterbacks. And then I was very, I questioned running quarterbacks. I can't wait to watch Daniel Jones.

I can't wait to watch Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. Maybe it was Russell Wilson who sort of opened everybody's eyes. Maybe it was Michael Vick the first time. Maybe it was Steve Young. Maybe it was Fran Tarkington. But running quarterbacks work. generally don't last, but it's making the games wildly entertaining. I mean, you say what you want about Kyler Murray.

He's got 650 yards with a battle line and a big 12 football coach in two weeks. Stuff's working fast. Coming up, is it possible? We know this to be true. That a lot of times pro athletes, NBA, Major League Baseball, NFL, they come into a league league and they're pretty good initially. But it doesn't always last. Tim Tebow's an obvious one, right?

And I'm going to give you some numbers on it. Is it possible that Baker Mayfield's at his ceiling? And it all makes sense because the numbers tell you this morning he's getting dramatically worse now that people have tape on him. That is coming up. Blazing 5 in 50 minutes. Peter Schrager, our NFL inside. joining us today as well. Can't wait for that.

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Denzel, Tom Hanks was not a child actor that I recall. Denzel, why am I, I, I'm just Spacey today. Washington. Denzel Washington was not a child actor that I recall. Either was John Malkovich or Jeremy Irons. I don't think Samuel L. Jackson started acting. Oh, it's like he was 35, right? But child actors are adorable at eight, super cute at 12, kind of obnoxious by 19, and then you find out at 22, they can't act. There are people that were exposed to that they're really good early, but like they don't have a second gear.

Child actors, he's just adorable. And then when the adorn. Adorable rubs off, he can't act. There's a lot of that in Hollywood. Adorable early, can act later. The same thing, there's numbers out, and I'm not picking on Baker, believe it or not, but the numbers are really stark. So Baker Mayfield is 14th in the AFC this morning in passerating. His completion percentage is near the bottom, 25th in the NFL. Four interceptions tied for the second most.

his passerating is 19th. He's fallen off a cliff. Now, in fairness to Baker, I don't know if he's got the right head coach. I don't think his offensive line's very good. And people have tape on him. I mean, that happens all the time. But people have tape on Lamar Jackson.

He's getting way better. People have all sorts of tape on DAC. Dak's getting better. People have all sorts of tape on Patrick Mahon and Wenz and Deshaun and DeShon Watson, and they're getting better. Baker, to me, is 5.11 and a half, not that athletic. Let me just throw this at you. Is it possible?

And we see this all the time in football. Nick Saban is known as one of the great secondary coaches in college football. Probably the best defensive coach in college football history. He's a great secondary coach. His corners and safeties come to the NFL and Nick has squeezed every bit of talent out of them. And they're never as good as they were in college. Outside of Aaron Rogers, every quarterback that Jeff Tedford had in. college was better in college and more dominating than in the NFL.

When you get a great college coach, Nick Saban defensive backs, they squeeze every ounce of your game out of you. When you get a great offensive quarterback coach, Jeff Tedford, Aaron Rogers, the exception, players never grow to the next level. Not everybody, not every actor has a second gear. In the last 10 years, four quarterbacks have won rookie of the year. the last decade. Sam Bradford, RG3, Cam Newton, and Dak.

One of those I'm all in on. Some of them, the first of what you saw, was the best of what you saw. Tim Tebow, Vince Young, early. There was no second gear. People got tape and figured them out. Dak, Carson Wentz, Russell Wilson, had a second gear.

They weren't just adorable child actors. They could actually act. Most child actors cannot. They're cute, and that's it. And just think about this with Baker. He had the best, I don't think anybody denies this. He has the best offensive coach in college football, maybe ever. So it's very possible he's not going to get better coaching in the NFL like Sabin or Jeff Tedford.

He was the oldest rookie quarterback. He had the most starts 44. Is it possible that Baker? Mayfield, what he was is now what he is. That there's not a massive room to grow. That's not saying that he doesn't have talent he does. That's not saying he doesn't throw an accurate football he does. That's not saying he'll never win games or division.

He may. But I've watched my whole life really elite coaches. When Pete Carroll was at USC, he squeezed a lot out of his defensive players. And they would go to the NFL and Clay Matthews, who was a lot. the late bloomer from the Matthews family did hit. But a lot didn't. They were as good with Pete at USC defensively as they ever were. And Sabin's corners and safeties, most that's as good as they ever are.

And Tedford's college quarterbacks outside of Aaron Rogers. That's as dominant as they ever are. I don't think Jalen Hertz is as good as Lincoln Riley makes him look. I don't think Baker Mayfield is a wizard. I think he's 5.11 and a half, kind of brash. Easy to put your arms around if you're in Cleveland. He's got confidence that you haven't had in Moxie. He's semi-athletic, but, I mean, look around the league.

He's not Carson Wentz athletic. He's not Mahomes athletic. He's not, you know, look around. Lamar athletic, not Russell. He's not. So I'm not saying he's not talented, but I'm saying, is it possible? I've seen it with Sabin's guys, Tedford's guys, and Pete Carroll's guys in college,

that Baker's way closer to the ceiling than we think. generally, I was told this years ago by an NFL general manager. He goes, I loved drafting Georgia players. I said, why? He said, because Mark Rick could recruit, but I never thought his staffs got the most out of the players. So you'd get a Georgia Bulldog player, and he was super talented. Mark Rickton and his staff at the time could spot talent, but they weren't great at developing and getting the most out of the talent.

So this GM, who's very successful and has rings, said, I like drafting Georgia players. I always felt there were two or three more levels to get out of them. People don't feel that with Sabin. Like, what you see is what you get because Nick's a great coach. Here's Joy with the News. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So Jailer Ramsey played in the Jags win last night, despite asking for a trade from the team.

Well, now it's being reported that the Jaguars might end up keeping their star corner because according to Ian Rappaport, Jaguar's owner, Shod Khan, loves Ramsey and is willing to make him the highest paid cornerback in the NFL. Well, you, that's, I would have no problem with that. He is the best corner in the NFL. Yeah, I mean, he should get paid and he would get paid. That's, I mean, he obviously wanted to get paid this year,

and clearly there was a disconnect between the owner and the front office. He said on the 17 weeks podcast that some disrespectful things were said at the end of their first game. that made him walk out and call his agent and say he wanted to get he wanted to be traded. So clearly his beef is with the front office. He said what happened between him and Doug Morone was something that just happens. It's not, it's not serious. That happens in the heat of competition.

Like he said that that wasn't a big deal and that wasn't the reason why he asked for a trade. It was something that was said between him and someone in the front office that pushed him over the edge to ask for a trade. But now looking at the situation or at least according to Ian Rappaport, this may not end up happening. Well, your goal as a team is to draft players and hope they're as good or better than advertised. When Khalil Mack's the game's best pass rusher, my takeaway is, aren't you drafting to find Kalil Mack? Why would you ever trade him? You would think that was the goal with the draft and how to develop a team? Remember when Atlanta Joy drafted Julio Jones, and if I recall, they gave up a bunch of players

to get him? And everybody was like, whoa! But Julio Jones has become the best player at his position, arguably in the NFL, and they just paid him. The whole goal in the draft is that you get a guy, and you're like, oh, he's the best player in the league at his position. And then you pay him. Like even the Patriots pay Stefan Gilmore. They're like, if you have a great corner, it's one of like the four to five positions in football. Just pay it.

Everything you're saying is so simple. I know. And it makes the most sense. I actually thought that was the goal of the draft, to build your team, which is why everyone's hoarding all these draft picks. To find the- Find talent and build your organization. Like Dallas. Zeke. They got it.

Tyron Smith left tackle. Yet so often we see teams do the opposite of this. And get cheap. Hopefully this ends up working out because obviously you don't want to lose a talent of the level of Jalen Ramsey, especially if the owner likes him. You figure out whatever the problem was with the front office and sort it out. But if he does become the highest paid, the highest paid quarterback right now is Zavian Howard. He signed a five-year $67.76.5 million extension with $46 million,

guaranteed. Josh Norman is the second highest. He has 50 million and guaranteed which is the most for corners. So he's, Rameses making 3.6 million this season. He'll make 13.7 and 20, 20 with the fifth year option. So he's looking for a long-term deal throughout his prime. So other big story from last night was rookie quarterback Gardner, Minshu. Lord. He led the Jaguires to their first win of the season last night against the Titans. And a lot of people have been surprised about the six-round picks play so far, but Minchu is not one of them. Very funny. I know the preparation I put in I know the guys that I have around me. I know the coaches that we have.

They've done everything they can to prepare me. So I never felt unprepared. I didn't have much experience, but I was definitely prepared. The obvious comparisons are Baker Mayfield. This game had a very Baker-Mayfield feel to it. He played the same offense in college as Baker. It's that air raid thing, right? Well, he started at Northwest Mississippi Community College in 2015.

Then he transferred to East Carolina in 2000. And then he was at Washington State as a grad transfer in 2018. So like Baker, he's moved around. They look alike, the headband. Baker moved a little bit to slightly more well-known. Well, no, Baker's, but I mean, when I watched them last night, their stories are overlooked, had to move around, get into the air raid. Yeah, Baker was the number one overall pick in the draft.

But they're both air raid guys who look alike and I think they play a little bit alike. I like Gardner. And he's a fun story. He's a fun story. I mean, I hope he's successful. It's good for the Jaguars. When Nick Foles went down, it was like I was rooting for Nick Folles this year because of the narrative around him in Philadelphia. So it's nice that they're not completely falling off a cliff.

He had a nice game last night. We talked a lot about how Tennessee is so inconsistent. You go get a win against Tennessee. He's nothing wrong with that. He was 20 for 30, 20-40, 20 yards, two touchdowns. Can't be mad at that. Jacksonville's excited about it. Finally, the Dolphins have finally made a change of quarterback.

Josh Rosen will reportedly make his first start for Miami. this Sunday against the Cowboys. I don't know what it was. Maybe it was the 92 points that they've given up lost by. I'm sorry, in the last two weeks. They've been outscored 102 to 10 so far this season. So they're finally giving Josh Rosen the start. Again, between them and the Giants, I don't really understand it.

I don't know what you expected to see in the first two games. It was so revolutionary that you wouldn't just give the team to the rookie that you traded all these picks away for or that you drafted number six overall. But we're here, and they're both starting. I don't know what to expect from Rosen. I don't think this is going to be a standout game against the Cowboys at Dallas. I think it's a tough way to open, man. That's a tough game to open.

I mean, give the teams them at the beginning of the season. What are you losing in this spot? And the Dolphins are on track to be the worst team in NFL history. Yeah. So there's that also. I didn't keep, I didn't put that in the Blazing Five because I have a very difficult time figuring out, does Dallas, if they have a 30-0 lead, I mean, I would pull starters.

I would pull starters. And that's why I have a real trouble with, I haven't put the dolphins in my blazing five. I don't know what to do with it. Why would you risk, if you're up 30 to 3 in late in the third, wouldn't you just bench guys? Well, also, again, I say it over and over. Just because the organization is tanking doesn't mean that the actual team and coaches are tanking. They still want to win. They're still out there playing with pride and, you know, for their careers.

So I'm not saying that they're going to win or cover, but I'm saying you never really know what's going to happen when the spread is that enormous in an NFL game. Yeah. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Live News. Blazing 5.30 minutes out.

Peter Schragers, our Fox Sports NFL reporter, spent last week on the sidelines, Ravens, Arizona. We'll get to that in a second now, joining us being via the Coward. Global Satellite Network. Let's start with DAC. I do think it's funny that there's a lot of critics for DAC. And, listen, initially, I saw him in college. I didn't love his throwing motion.

But last year, when he connected with Amari Cooper, went 7-1 down the a stretch. You know, I just came to the realization. You gave him a grown-up wide receiver in his prime. Amari's a good dude. And I'm like, okay, won seven of eight games he got better. That to me was the moment. For Jared Goff, it was the Mahomes game. And I'm like, all right, sign the checks. When you're talking to sources around the league, what do they say about DAC? Well, you know, the initial bias against DAC is the fact that he went in the fourth round. So everyone wants to hold their judgment because that means 32 teams got it wrong three different times and Connor Cook was taken right before him. I don't know where Connor Cook is playing

right now. So people are always hesitant about saying, oh, DAC is amazing because it's them admitting that, oh, wait, we were wrong three different times and three different rounds. That said, there's still not this overwhelming love for DAC the player. There's always got the great offensive line. He's got this. And now it's Kellyn Moore. Like, they have a new offensive coordinator. Scott Linahan was running the same old offense the last three seasons for DAC. And as great as Dak was and he won a playoff game last year, Kellyn Moore has come in and has totally revitalized the excitement around this Cowboys offense. You're seeing Jason Witten get involved.

You're seeing Amari have great games, but you're also seeing a new confidence in Dak Prescott. Kellyn Moore is a 31-year-old offensive coordinator in a league where everyone's looking to dawn the next great offensive mind. He might be the guy right under our nose with the biggest spotlight team in the entire NFL, a former quarterback and a guy who, ironically, should have had that opportunity after Romo went down in the preseason a few years ago. but he also got injured, which led to Dak Prescott, never giving up that throne as the quarterback. It's amazing.

Kellan Moore, 31-year-old, Boise State quarterback might be the key to the Dallas Cowboys making a run to the Super Bowl this season. So you did sidelines, and you picked this game months ago. You told our Fox executives, I want to be on the sideline for Baltimore, Arizona. And I got to tell you, I've seen enough of Lamar. I'm in. It works. And I like what Baltimore is doing with him. but Kyler now had over 300 yards with a bad old line.

I'm not that many games away with Kyler saying, all right, I'm in. I said to start my show today. I'm in on about 15 to 16 of the quarterbacks. You can have the rest and talk yourself into them. What was your takeaway on Baltimore and Kyler last week? All right. Kyler, this team moved right up and down the field and they would get in the red zone. It was like they couldn't punch it in.

They settled for field goals. They had three different field goal attempts within the five yard line last week, which was the first time since 19. So that's a crazy stat. Kyler will get going. I like what Cliff's doing with those guys. Lamar, though, Colin. I was a skeptic, and I don't mean a skeptic about the kid.

I was a skeptic about this offense, how revolutionary it was going to be, because all offseason, everyone in the Ravens building was raving about Lamar Jackson's development and how it's going to be such an impressive performance, not from the running game, but from the passing game. And I said, all right, well, hold on, let's just see it. Guess what? I'm a believer. It was awesome.

And it's not just him on the field within the hash marks. This guy has a charisma at the age of 22 that I can't really quantify with stats or numbers. I can only tell you anecdotally that Marshall Yonda, this old veteran offensive lineman, is following Lamar Jackson's lead. Mark Ingram played with Drew Breeze for all these years is following Lamar Jackson's lead. And we know how much that franchise loved Flacco? I didn't hear Flacco's name once last week. Everyone is all in on Lamar.

And he might not necessarily have the sound bites of Baker Mayfield or the, or the charisma of Gardner Minshu, who we saw last night. But Lamar Jackson has it. I can't quantify it. These guys love them. They play for him. And he is a raven, which means a lot in that city. By the way, I was just talking about Baker Mayfield's numbers.

And we've seen this, you know, you have a lot of sources. We've seen this for years, that Sabin's defensive backs, he squeezes everything out of them. They don't have a second gear in the NFL. Pete Carroll's defensive guys at USC, many topped out. Jeff Tedford quarterback's not named. Aaron Rogers. He squeezes all the talent out. Lincoln Riley's making you and I, I mean, it looks like we could play in the Big 12. And I look at Baker Mayfield's stats. And I'm saying to myself, you know, maybe he doesn't have a second gear. I mean, now, again, the offensive line's

not great. But now Aaron Donald comes to town. Are there real concerns? Is it possible that we just jump the gun too fast on the Baker fandom? Look, you and I are often looked at as the Baker haters because we say, well, slow down here. They haven't really won anything yet. They won seven games. They also lost eight games and missed the playoffs last year. And this year, it's a slow build. It was almost like people were tweeting at me, Kyle, Colin, where they're

saying, look at, you love Kyler Murray, you love Kyler Murray, but look at Baker, they just blew out the jets. And I'm like, well, slow down. They got the Rams next week. Let's see. The truth of the matter is this. That offensive line in Cleveland is not good, and Aaron Donald is good, and so is Dante Fowler. So it was a bunch of different guys. So I think Sunday

night is another opportunity for us on a national stage to see how Baker Mayfield is. Look, it's all great when you beat the Jets and O'Dell has an 80-yard play. Let's see as the season gets on and the weather gets cold. I'm with you on this one. Let's pump the brakes on the Brown's offense being this high-fly machine and let's maybe pump the brakes on Baker until we see him do it against Aaron Donald in his face. By the way, an interesting number. Our staff has this. Baker Mayfield's career against Cincinnati. He's Joe Montana, 2-0, seven touchdowns, no picks and a pass-a-rating of 135. Against everybody else for our FS1 listeners, look at the numbers to the right. He almost has

as many picks as touchdowns. He's 5 and 8 and a quarterback rating of 86. Again, all we're saying here is just slow down. Cincinnati had the fifth worst defense in league history last year. Now, you're in New York. Let's talk Eli. I honestly feel, I like the Giants this weekend. I think that Daniel Jones, it's almost like Kyler to Arizona replacing Josh Rosen. There's an energy I feel like, oh, this is going to be fine. I don't think the Giants are a Super Bowl team. How is it landing in New York with the new kid, the rookie, coming in for the legacy guy? Colin, you and I look at things from like 30,000 feet, and it's not just week to week.

It's NFL. The Giants were stale. Like, and it's not just this year. It was last year. It was the year before. And here we are, week three, Giants at Tampa Bay, four o'clock window. Who was, I don't, I don't know who was signing up to watch that game. They announced Daniel Jones as the season.

starter? And suddenly I look at that four o'clock window and I say, well, Breeze isn't playing for the Saints. And I don't know about this game. I don't know. I don't know about Mason Rudolph. I don't know if I want to watch. It's the game in the four o'clock window. It is the game. I want to see what Daniel Jones brings. I want to see how the Giants come out of the gates. And I think there's some sizzle to the New York Giants. And they ripped the Band-Aid off and no one is now being blindsided by it. They drafted the guy in April. You knew this was eventually going to happen. Last week, I had a lot of friends who were at Giant Stadium or MetLife, whatever it's called right now, and they said,

there were a lot of Bill's fans in the building, and it kind of felt like this is the end of the era. So they ripped the Band-Aid off, and there's at least another restart and some recharge to the Giants. They were on the back page all this week in New York and the tabloids. I can't tell you the last time they actually mattered in a football conversation in New York, let alone big picture NFL. Four o'clock window?

That's your game. Daniel Jones, I can't wait to see it. Finally, Tennessee, they're moving off, Marcus Mario. I think they should have moved off two years ago, but last night was, you know, nail coffin, right? Like, they're done with Marioita. Yeah, look, this is the fifth year of his contract. They had the opportunity to give him the big contract extension. They didn't.

They said, let's play this thing out. I'm not announcing their starter from here on out. They didn't replace him last night. But that was as, again, sizzle. That was as boring a game last night as you could ever imagine from a quarterback in a big spot, a national TV. And it's like, here we go again. fifth year the Mario dearest a big win week one, a terrible loss

week two, a terrible loss week three. And maybe it's not all Marcus Mariotas fault. But the Tennessee Titans are not in a major market. They're in Nashville, Tennessee. They had a prime time game last night. And we come away with it talking about Gardner Minshu and Callias Campbell. We're not talking about the Titans.

I mean, last night I give Buck, Aikman, Aaron, Christina Pink, and the producer, Richie Zions, whoever else is on that crew, so much credit because that did not feel like a game that mattered. And yet you're watching it on NFL network and it's all of our top talent from Fox and you're like, they're giving it they're all. Like we're trying here. But if we don't hear about the Titans for a couple more weeks and maybe a couple more months, I wouldn't be shocked. This is just one of those teams that until there's a big

splash change, I can't get on board and say, yes, I'm convinced. This is the team I want to follow. This is the team I want to watch. And maybe it's the quarterback position that they've got to switch up. Peter Schrager, Fox Sports NFL reporter. By the way, New York Times bestseller out of the blue. He's on the NFL Network. Good morning. Football in the morning. good seeing you, buddy. I will see you Sunday. Fox NFL kickoff. Love doing that show with you.

All right, Shrague, so do I. Love it. Blazing 5 top of the hour. Coming up, pretty interesting. So PFF, Pro Football Focus, does this data stuff. And I'm into it totally. And I know sometimes it can be boring. But the data has compiled tells you the weakness of all 32 quarterbacks.

It's pretty interesting. Sometimes, mostly, your eyes are right. But there is one criticism that many of the top quarterbacks have. I don't view it as a criticism that is coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where sports slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise,

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search for a new coach. It won't be public, but they will. Notre Dame, Georgia tomorrow, Texas A&M, Auburn. It's a great weekend of college football. I thought this was interesting because I like data and I'm kind of a nerd. There's something called pro football focus, pfff.com, and we bring their people on once a week. And so they looked at all the data on all the quarterbacks in the league and what is their kryptonite? What is their statistical weakness? And most of the time, you can see it. Aaron Rogers holds on to the ball too long. That's what data says.

Cam Newton, accuracy. James Winston. Judgment, forces bad throws. Deshawn Watson, intermediate accuracy. Very fair. He's great deep ball thrower, struggles on those seam routes. Marcus Moriota, you saw this last night, pocket presence. What's interesting about it is,

many of the best quarterbacks in the league have the same weakness. Patrick Mahomes, Andrew Luck, Carson Wentz have the same. Now, Andrew Luck is now retired, have the exact same problem. Also throwing Philip Rivers, considered a top 10 quarterback. And the weakness is turnover worthy passes outside the numbers, meaning they go for home run balls. And I've always had a theory on this. And I know everybody hates interceptions. Tom Brady has won a Super Bowl with a pick-sticks and multiple interceptions.

Every rule in the NFL, at least for the last decade, probably longer, has been to help the offense. They even flipped the catch rule to again help the offense. They are now reviewing pass interference to help the offense. The average score in the NFL is 2320. That is with every rule for a decade to help the offense. It's hard to score touchdowns in this league. Aaron Rogers this year has had 27 possessions. He's scored, and I mean anything, field goal touchdown on five.

Look at the weapons Cleveland has. Those are very good weapons, right? Nobody would deny that. They've had 26 possessions. They've scored on seven, not all touchdowns. Pittsburgh, 6 of 22. Atlanta, 6th of 22. That's with Matt Ryan and the first game with Big Ben.

It is hard to even get a field goal in the NFL. And my takeaway on interceptions is the average NFL game has 13 possessions. And that most interceptions are simply punts. As long as you don't throw an interception in your red zone to take away points or in eventually their red zone to give them points, I would rather my guys throw it down the field and take big chances. What drives me nuts is Alex Smith is a wonderful guy, drove me nuts.

That when you look at these guys, here's what worries me, Teddy Bridgewater, biggest concern, too conservative. And that four different guys have. too conservative. Yeah, Gardner Minshew, arm strength, Jacoby Brissette, lack of big time throws. Joe Flacco, too conservative.

That's what worries me. I have no problem. The NFL average score is 2320. And that's with now two more rules. Let's review pass interference. And let's flip the catch rule to aid. You can't hit now receivers over the middle. can't hit quarterbacks.

So I feel good about that. I saw this story, sometimes in the media, and it happens, I would say, more frequently than infrequently these days. So you see these stories where they become stories, and they're really not stories. But there's some component to it that it gets traction often on social media. Here's the latest. Lamar Jackson is responding now to those. those who questioned him.

That's not a story. Outside of John Elway, every quarterback of my life has been questioned. Aaron Rogers went to a junior college. Dak went in the fourth round. Russell Wilson in the third. Tom Brady in the sixth. Drew Breeze in the second.

Joe Montana in the third. You do realize that Russell Wilson started for three years at North Carolina State. was the best quarterback they'd arguably ever had. And the coach said, I'm going to replace you with Mike Glennon. He then went to Wisconsin and shattered every quarterback record they'd ever had. And every team passed on him for two rounds. Peyton Manning, by the way, came out 50-50.

Half the country. Half the GMs wanted Ryan Leif. Andrew Luck, RG3, one rookie of the year. Dan Marino, six quarterback taken in the draft. His drafts, six quarterback, folks, find me the quarterbacks that we put our arms around and don't doubt. Carson Wentz, North Dakota, it'll never work. Josh Allen, Wyoming, please, where is that? That position's defined by doubt.

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We've had a very fast-moving week. That was an absolute dog of a game last night. There's no reason to go into great detail on it. It was unwatchable. A million penalties. It's bad for the flow of the game is what it is. Tom Brady was displeased with the amount of penalties. It was ugly.

He took to Twitter. Now, some of that people are saying, some of that is because the starters don't play in the preseason. So it's like basically the first start of the season now, you're seeing all these injuries and penalties is because essentially nobody's playing in the preseason games. That could be true. Well, according to Schefter, there have been more total accepted penalties called per team per game this year than any since 1947. 7.8. And now, why would that be? So penalties are up 16% this year.

So why would that be? So generally there's a reason. And my takeaway is the trend started last year with the Rams, and now it's a league-wide trend. Don't play your starters in the preseason. So these teams are still developing rapport and chemistry. That would be my guess. Could be that.

Or it could be there's a very heightened level of scrutiny with the refs because of the Rams game. So, you know, they're being more sensitive about calling things, being more protective of the quarterbacks. Who knows? But that's a pretty big hike. Yeah. And it does hurt the flow of the game.

There's no question. Also, you never forget in the NFL, they tweak stuff constantly. It's not like baseball where it could take a decade for them to get something overturned or changed. Football, a couple of years in the Super Bowl, in the Super Bowl, Patriots Eagles, NFL decided we're going to change the catch rule in the Super Bowl. So this has been a league that's always been nimble, not reticent to change, evolves, willing to move. So you could be seeing them calling certain plays trying to put a certain standard on it. so players accept it. There is an interesting story.

Odell Beckham is upset because he had a visor the other night and he thinks the referees are singling him out. Here's Odell Beckham complaining about the NFL, the refs, he's a victim, they're out to get him, blah, blah, blah, here it is. Just open your eyes a little bit, you know. It's just like I said, there's people across the league. It's ten advisors, black visors, and it's me on Monday night in New York and all the law and pull them off the field.

So. Okay. Red sports cars, statistically, get more speeding tickets because they draw more attention. This is a very expressive player. Being in the end zone, proposing to a kicking net, refs are human, everybody's watching Odell. They watch him in warmups. He's the only player in the league that we go for the warmups.

He's the most watched player, not a quarterback in the league. He really is. You don't go and watch Khalil Mack in warmups. You don't go watch Julio Jones in warm-ups. So Odell Beckham is the red sports car of NFL players, and people are paying more attention. And they probably picked him on his visor and would not have, perhaps, if he wasn't that player. But he's also simultaneously building a brand in the middle of a season wearing a watch. So he's trying to get accumulate endorsement deals while the season's going on in games.

Look at my watch. People are watching his watch, and they're watching him. And, I mean, listen, football is. is like the military. You get fined as a player if you lose the playbook. You get fined millions of dollars if you secretly taped somebody else's practice. In baseball,

you can watch the other guys batting practice. In the NBA, you can watch the other team shoot around. But in football, you can't watch my practice. I can't watch yours. It's covert. It's secret. And it is like the military. It's about having secrets. You don't

know. The best offensive linemen hold, but hide it. New England has figured out how to have pass interference on their secondary, on every play, and never get called. If you watch the Patriot's secondary, Stefan Gilmore is the master at it. The whole time down the field, slapping, poking, slapping, poking, never gets called for PI. It's the subtle nature of football, the best coaches. They put in the groupings quietly, quickly, that create mismatches.

The best offensive linemen hold, you don't see it. The best corners touch, poke, prod, progress. Stefan Gilmore. You don't call it. Well, there is no subtlety to OBJ's game. There's no subtlety to his branding. There's no subtlety to his hair. There's no subtlety to his Bentley, which is orange.

There's no subtlety to his style, his warm-ups. And so they're watching him more. I mean, he's a player. He's highly expressive. And so everybody's watching him, including the refs. So in a league where subtlety is rewarded, he's the NFL's red sports car. He's the least subtle player in the NFL. I don't think he's a victim.

all of our odds are of course provided by Fox Bet. We had a very good week last week. Now last week I took almost all favorites. I don't do that. My rule in the NFL is I like underdogs. And this week, in three of my five picks, I like points. Here we go. Let's blaze it up.

Fire it up. It's Collins, Blazing Five. Ravens at Chiefs. I'm betting the number here. I'm going to take the favorite Kansas City Chiefs minus five. Now, Baltimore's offensive line and running game is good enough in this game to control the clock and win. It is. But I like the number here.

I get the best offense. I not only get the most creative play designer and Andy Reid, but Andy Reid came into this year. Seven and O against the spread in his last seven September games, he's two and O against the spread in these two September games. Kansas City leads or close to it in virtually every. offensive category. And I will say this, Lamar Jackson in that running game, you know what they're going to do. They want to eat the clock and they want to run and they're good enough to do it. But the number is only five and I think Arrowhead is a tough place to play.

3023 Chiefs win and cover. It'll be a fun game to watch. Lions and Eagles. I'm going to take Detroit plus six in a potential upset here. Philadelphia had to cancel practice this week. The timing was not good against Atlanta. You've had a lot of on third down, you've had Deshawn Jackson, Alshan Jeffrey. Three of their targets are hurt offensively.

They've also had some defensive injuries. I think this is a talented Philadelphia team that right now is playing a Detroit team that has covered for their last six games. We kind of look at the Lions as a mess. but when they lose, they've been losing close. They won close last weekend. I'm going to take the six points here. I think it's actually an upset alert.

I'll take Philly to win 2723, but Philadelphia is banged up, and I think their timing is off due to the rash of injuries, both in-game and practice, closer than you think. Giants and Bucks. I like the Giants getting the points plus six, and I like an outright win for the Giants. First of all, Daniel Jones, I believe, is going to give this team a little energy boost.

I think the team had gotten very stale. And if you looked at Daniel in the preseason, he was absolutely terrific. Now, the Giants are Owen, too, but they have put up 420 total yards per game. They're moving the ball. This is not an offense bereft of talent. The Buccaneers, meanwhile, are adrift. They've scored 20 or fewer points in five of their last six games. And they're one of four teams as Tampa to have 300 plus total yards in the game this season.

Yet to have it. So they haven't really popped yet. And that's with really good offensive players and Bruce Ariens. I'm going to take the Giants with an upset little energy, Daniel Jones, 24, 23. Steelers and Niners. This is another go-either-way game. Pittsburgh's getting six and a half points. That is way too many.

The 49ers are. incredibly young, which means they look great last week. They could come crashing down. They don't have their left tackle. Again, I like San Francisco, but they are young. And by the way, Pittsburgh without Big Ben, they're 10 and 6. The last 16 games he hasn't played. That's a playoff team. Charlie Badge had a winning record. Dennis Dixon, Landry Jones, Michael Vic had a winning record. They play without Ben and they have 10 wins in 16 games. It's also a must-win for them. I think it's 2726. It's a go-either-way game.

I'll take the Niners to win by a point. Way, way too many points to give the significantly better offensive line and the better, more desperate roster at this point. I'll take the points with Pittsburgh. Rams at Browns. Now, initially this week, I said,

Cleveland's going to really be testy. Here's a problem. Like Philadelphia, the Browns have a cluster injuries in the secondary. Denzel Ward's beat up. They have had multiple players. They did not practice list this week looked like the third floor of a hospital. Now, Baker has been sacked eight times.

The weakness of this team is the offensive line. The Rams Aaron Donald, yet to get a sack, going to be spicy. The Browns have the most penalties and penalty yards. Why wouldn't they? Youngest roster in the league. And Baker Mayfield's been great against Cincinnati. But beyond that, with that porous offensive line, he's a 5-and-8 quarterback who has 22 touchdowns and 18 picks.

I think I also get a coaching mismatch. Sean McVeigh, maybe the best young coach. I don't think any of us know if Freddie Kitchens is even a good coach. I don't know that. He may be, it doesn't look like it. I'm going to take the Rams to win in cover 33 to 24. So again, I'm going to take the favorite Kansas City Chiefs at home in a game watch out. Baltimore is going to try to eat the clock and run it.

I'll then take the underdog lions. I'll take the underdog giants, the underdog Steelers, and the favored L.A. Rams. It is amazing. I am going against two teams this week, Philadelphia and Cleveland, which had Philadelphia canceled a practice. They just had a walk through. They had that many injuries. And Cleveland is all beat up.

So I think young teams need practice. I don't think New England needs practice. practice. I don't think the Rams, frankly, a veteran team need practice. I think Cleveland's a young team. They need practice. And they didn't get much of the kind of timing and practice they need. All odds provided by Fox Bet. That is our Blazing Five. Greg Jennings around the corner joining us, just starting not even halfway home on a Friday. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsSlice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month,

I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing and we're still chasing it

and we don't know when we've done enough because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. What's up, fam?

This Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves,

I gotta manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases on offense.

And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. agency, the ability to know that we're the experts in our own body.

On the podcast cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. I wholeheartedly think, you know, you hit 30, you shouldn't have to share one with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health. These are real honest conversations. We don't always get to have out loud. totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them?

Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing. I'm standing and handing my children food. Because healing, empowerment, and resilience aren't just ideas, their practices. And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. You know, it's funny. Greg Jennings is joining

us. Ten NFL seasons, a couple of Pro Bowl, Super Bowl. Like when quarterbacks go down, like Pittsburgh now has Mason Rudolph. And he was pretty good last week. It was solid. And then Teddy Bridgewater, Greg Jennings, you guys turn his bike on there. It's not you. It's, uh, sorry, do you, can you hear you?

There you go. There we go. And Teddy Bridgewater. And, you know, I always think to my, I think about this all the time. Well, he got all week. You guys don't have, you know, your job is football. You just sit around there all day. But there are times when you get a new quarterback in and you're like, wow, this is

rough. Trevor Simeon for the Jets with Adam Gase, you're like, did they practice? So like, with New Orleans, Teddy Bridgewater been in the league, won games for Minnesota, Sean Peyton, he's been with him now a year, offensive line veteran, Alvin Kamar has been

almost a better road running back than home. Like, I think New Orleans should go into Seattle and not skip a ton of beats, right? Like, Well, it's, yeah, to a degree. Your expectations are always next man up. And in this instance, when you look at Teddy Bridgewater and what he affords this team, there's not a huge drop off in regard.

And this is no disrespect to Drew Breeze. He's not 40, though. We know who he is. As far as experience, Drew Breeze has seen it all. Teddy Bridgewater, he has experienced. He has started in this league. So you're dealing with a guy who's played as a starter who now has a full week of preparation where the game plan is going. He's going to have a game plan that's tailored for himself.

By the smartest offensive guy arguably in the league with a top running back, an elite receiver, and a top 10 line. Yes, the one thing I would caution viewers and Saints fans. And really, Teddy Bridgewater is to when I play with him as a rookie. in Minnesota. I remember having this conversation with him. I'm like, Teddy, you got to feel it, don't see it. And when I watched him last week take over against the Rams. A little conservative.

It wasn't so much that he was conservative. His reaction time and decision time was delayed. The receiver had to be wide open and then he threw the ball. You can't do that in year, what, five now for Teddy Bridgewater? like you your expectations are to get that ball out and be timely fill it when you know Michael Thomas is about to break you got to throw that ball you got to trust that he's going to make that play a lot of quarterbacks don't like to be wide open people a lot of quarterbacks don't like to do that they don't they don't

that's what separates the great ones from the good ones deck Prescott why do we still doubt him he's won a division twice 66% wins the minute he got I was a doubter a little bit I mean, I thought he was competent. But when he got Amari and went seven and one at the end of last year, I said, all right, boom, check, write the check. I'm okay with it. Why do you think we still doubt him? We still doubt that.

I don't doubt him any longer. Let me just say that. But I think there are doubters out there because when he entered this league, we saw that they had a phenomenal offensive line. So that was kind of a label right there. Oh, he doesn't have to do so much because his offensive line is great. True. Running back.

turned out to be phenomenal that year, led the league in rushing. So none of the weight was really on Dak Prescott. He was being asked to just manage the game. Don't turn the ball over. Don't wreck the Mercedes. He did that. So he met that expectation and they went 13 and 3. Okay, but let me push back.

He had an incredibly high maintenance demanding wide receiver and Das, Des Bryant. Yes. That was not perfect. He had a coordinator, clearly in Scott Linehan, who was super conservative. By year two, he had Zeke in trouble and suspended. Jerry holds a press conference after games and before them. They have had offensive line issues last year.

And at tight end, essentially when Witten left, they just didn't have one. It's not like it's been ideal for him. He's had bumps too. He has had bumps. But for me, when I look at Dak Prescott in his career, really in a full, complete look, he's been what they've asked him to be. The one time that he didn't really step up was when Ezekiel Elliott was out in year two.

When he missed those games and the expectation was now, okay, you got to lead us, you got to win games. And it didn't look as good as we would have hoped. By the way, Zieg got hurt at the same time the offensive line got banged out. So you had, again, when Kareem Hunt was cut by the chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, when Todd Gurley left Jared Gough, all these young quarterbacks lose to start running back.

None of them are as good. Yeah, I mean, when you start, when you can start a young quarterback with a running game, the way that Ezekiel Elliott has helped and afforded Dak Prescott, it's a positive. But then now you look at these, Dak Prescott now with Amari Cooper. I mean, he's been lights out. And this is dating back to when he acquired him before, prior to acquiring Mari Cooper last year, weeks one through seven, like he had. One game where he threw 20 completions.

After that, once he got Amari Cooper, he hasn't thrown a game without 20 completions yet. Yeah. He hasn't. That's because of the trust, because of what you provide him. Now, we can all say, and I've been one to say it, the guys around him has made him look better and made him look good. Well, now Dak Prescott is of the mentality, and he's showing us and he has the confidence, no, it is me too. And so he's stepped his elevation, his game and his elevation up, and the guys around him has afforded him that opportunity.

So it's a win-win situation for Dak. But he's in that star. He's going to always be doubted because it's a run-first team. And it's the Dallas Cowboys. So, Dak, we're going to always label you with something. So just get ready for it. By the way, the Baker-Mayfield stuff, I am sometimes reluctant to be critical because I'm viewed as a hater.

Are you? No, I don't care. I would invite him on the show. I don't care. I'm always willing to take. I've invited, Russell Westbrook wants to come and yell at me. I don't care. They can't eat me.

I don't care. I mean, I brought Richie Incognito on. I brought T.O. on. Everybody I'm critical of, come on the show. Baker was on also. Yes. Come on. Come back.

My knock on him, as I said, his personality traits are not my cup of tea. But big deal. I was never a Jay Cutler guy. I didn't like his personality. You know, Jim McMahon was never my cup of tea as a personality. By the way, Cam is too much into Cam. It's okay. I'm not everybody.

You know, Tebow, I didn't buy. A lot of guys I don't buy. It's no big deal. He's just a more popular one. By the way, I got a lot of hate mail on Tebow for many years because people thought I was like anti-faith based. And I'm like, no, I'm anti. He can't throw the ball in the out route.

I don't care about your faith. But Baker, it's interesting, though. So you know this. So generally speaking, you get a better NFL coach than college coach. But there are exceptions. Nick Saban is such a good defensive coach that a lot of Alabama defensive backs come into the league and he squeezed every ounce out of him.

The best football they ever played was with Nick. And they come to the NFL, D. Milner's step. They're not the same player. Jeff Tedford has had like seven NFL quarterbacks. Take out Aaron Rogers. They've all were better in college than in pro. Lincoln Riley right now is incredible. Is it possible that Lincoln Riley took Baker Mayfield to a play?

that was special and that at 5-11 and a half and a two-time walk-on, he's not quite as special as we think. He's been, he had balls batted down last week. If you look at his career against everybody in this league not named Cincinnati, he's 5 and 8, 22 touchdowns, 18 picks, and a quarterback rating in the mid-80s. Is it possible that Sabin does that? Pete Carroll's defense at USC, Clay Matthews, was rare, was a great player immediately as a troach. most would go to the NFL and they were like Pete squeezed everything out of them.

Like I watched Baker last week and I'm like, he didn't look special to me. Deshawn Watson looks special. He doesn't look special. Am I wrong? I don't agree totally with this. And here's why because number one last year, Baker Mayfield, he was playing with House Money. He walked into a situation where he pretty much knew this was going to be my job. Eventually.

there was no pressure. There was absolutely no pressure. The standard of winning, there was none. They hadn't won. And so anything he did, he was setting the bar. And so you walk into this season, after winning some last year, the standard of winning and the expectations have now risen. And it's because of Baker Mayfield.

It's because of what he was able to showcase the wins and the losses. is not so much the stats and the numbers because he's a young quarterback. He's going to have growing pains. But this year, typically in the history of the National Football League, year two is the sophomore slump. Okay, well, there's your sophomore slump. Rams at the Ravens, at the Niners, Seattle, at the Patriots. He's facing some defenses.

And I think to the defender's credit, like they're doing something with Baker-Mayfield. And Booger did a great Booger McFarlane. called the game last Monday night. He did a great job with showing this or saying or communicating this. The defenses, the defenders, they're disguising the coverage at the snap. Pre-snap, they're showing him one thing. And then once the ball is snap, they're going to a different coverage,

which in return for a young quarterback, whether it's Baker-Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, whomever, how you deal with that is predicated on your success. meaning Baker Mayfield is struggling with that. What he's seeing pre-snap, you're having a number one option right now. You know your progression right now. But when the defense now has disguised it and they go to something different, your number one, number two progression has now changed. And so you have to decisively make those decisions quicker

and that just didn't happen. He had one throw with on the run last week, and he just missed O'Dell Beckham and typically Baker makes that throw like he's an accurate quarterback and I think a little bit is he's feeling the pressure of what he created like this is what comes with expectations

well I told my wife this the other night we were talking about this I said if I got a new job and I promised I was going to be great and I said I am going to be unbelievable and I'm like actually I put pressure on me. I'd be like, oh, crap, I got to be great.

You're much better to be self-deprecating in any environment as an entertainer or a performer because you don't put massive pressure on yourself. I never, you want to know, like the whole diva receiver, like I hated that term, and I was never that guy. Do you want to know why? Why? Because of that. I never wanted to create more attention, draw more attention, put my game,

under a microscope any more than it already was. Like there was no need for that. To add pressure in a pressure-filled game, that makes no sense. Now, would I have thrived? I don't know, but that just wasn't my cup of tea to add more on top of me. Like, I know I have to perform. I don't need to show up my quarterback or talk about all these targets that I'm not getting or make this big hissy fit.

There's a psychology in life to promising less and delivering. more. I got into a discussion with my daughter the other day and she goes, I was so stressed out. She goes, I get sick when I'm stressed out. And I said, you know what eliminates in college stress is preparation. If you study for the test for four days. By the time it's test day, there's no stress. I said, you can be a procrastinator at times. So you wake up and you're like, oh my God, I'm stressed. I said, just prep better and you'll have less stress. It's the same thing with hype. It makes me nervous. If I would brag to everybody how great I was, I'd step in front of the mic every day and think, oh, my God, if I don't nail this.

Exactly. So, like, to me, Baker kind of said, I'm the man. It's like, don't do that. Do that Lamar Jackson literally hid in the offseason. Like, there's no pressure on Lamar. We were all like, I don't know if he's very good. He's playing so free. He's playing so light.

He's playing. You can tell there's a lightness to Lamar Jackson. There is. There is. And one thing that I love about Lamar Jackson that he did. And he said this in a tweet. earlier this week. He said something about negativity

it's a fuel booster or it boost you. And he understood everything that everyone was saying to be true. It didn't mean that he didn't know prior to anyone saying he needs to be more accurate. He needs to not take those hits. Well, what he did was say, you know what? These things are true not because

they say it but because I see the film too. And I know them to be true. So this off season, what did he go do? He worked on being more accurate. He put on bulk. Like he understood if I'm going to make this work, I'm going to have to do things that I didn't do last season to progress, to make these strides. And I don't have to tell everybody that I'm doing it.

I just need to do it. Like the best, the beauty of playing this game is when you can play and you're free. But to your point, because you've prepared, because you have checked every box. And you haven't put pressure on yourself to perform. Exactly. Go out, be humble. I mean, it's amazing how simple it is.

But you start promising stuff and the games get heavy. They do. I remember, well, I go back to the Cleveland Browns with them acquiring Odell Beckham, with them having this amazing looking offense on paper, which we all were so excited for. And we're still excited to see it come to fruition. but that brings about a pressure. I don't care who you are.

You have that many weapons. You have that high of expectation. Everyone wants to perform and meet those expectations or exceed them. And the Cleveland Browns just have not done that. Good senior Greg Jennings. By the way, slept timber an entire month dedicated to rest and relaxation. Casper.com code heard 100 bucks toward select mattresses. Joy with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Finally, Daniel Jones will make his first start for the Giants on Sunday. We're all very excited to watch. I am. His teammate, Sequin Barclay, is excited too. He was asked how excited he is to play with the rookie quarterback,

but instead he talked about how great it is for Jones to get this opportunity. You know, I know everyone's making a big deal. He's a starting quarterback in New York. I don't think you guys really understand, you know, how much effort and hard work you put in since you're a little kid to get to this moment and get to his position. And yes, it hits you when you get drafted. Yes, it hits you when you hit preseason. But when you actually step in that field that you're a starting quarterback, you know,

all kind of just kind of reflect on all the hard work that you put in all the adversity you face. So I'm really just more excited for him to go out there and get his first start. And I'm going to do whatever it takes. I know we all would do what it takes to try to have his first start go the way that we all want to go. And what our mindset is this week is one and out. Listen, Jared Goff and Dak were helped by a great running back. This is a pretty neat thing. Tampa doesn't have a dominating defense.

You have a real big time running back. You have an offensive coach. I think Joy, he's going to be okay. Not special, but I think he's going to be okay. I'm just happy that it's finally his team. And this is not, I'm not rooting against Eli Manning. I actually think Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer. And Eli Manning gets way more criticism than is actually deserved,

considering that he's a two-time Super Bowl MVP and beat Tom Brady twice in his prime. I understand he hasn't been great the past couple years, but, you know, we forget that Eli did that. And that matters. But it's time. Like, this is Daniel Jones team now. This is why I said it should have happened from the beginning of the season, because I think there's value to putting confidence and setting the tone for the season with your guy.

And everyone, except for the Giants, knew that Eli was done. And Eli wasn't the guy. So he's getting his start in the third week. It's great. Clearly the team is behind him. It's a nice perspective from Seek-1. It's not just that he's getting, you know, to be the starter for the New York Giants. Like, this is something you work for your entire life.

It's a big moment for him. And I don't know what necessarily expectations we should have from him this season, but having Sequin is huge because he is the pulse and energy of that team. And he's such a star. I'm happy that they are actually turning it over to the next wave in New York. Because, again, the NFL is better when the Giants are competitive. So the Jets are preparing for a matchup with the Patriots who have outscored their opponents 76 to 3 so far this season.

But Adam Gase is not bothered by the Patriots running out the score. He actually likes New England. approach. The NFL, this isn't Peeley football. Everything that you do in a game, especially at the beginning of the year, it's going to help you get better for kind of the mid part to the end of the season. These in-game reps, whether you're up, down, whatever it is, they're all important. According to Fox Betts, Patriots are 22 point favorites over the Jets.

I know you're not a hat backwards guy for coaches, but I'd like to see it. I'd like to see his eyes. I haven't seen Adam Gay's eyes in like six months. I know he had a bad first press conference, but I hate his body language at the mic. It's just too negative. It's just, it is.

And I'm not really like a big body language person, because I think we kind of overdue with that. But when it comes to coaches, you're sending a message. You are. Like, you have to set the tone. Remember Matt Patricia, first game in the NFL hat backwards as a coach?

And I went on the air and I said, this is a $4 billion dollar franchise. Don't look like the auto mechanic at Jiffy Loom. Put your hat straight. You're an NFL head coach. You didn't like it. But I wish that Adam Gay's a wear his hat. So at least we could see his face.

But beyond that, though, what he's saying is true. Yes. Who cares how many points a professional team beat you by. This is not kids. Everyone is out there working and they're professionals. They're not running up the score either. They're just better. Finally, the Clippers made the biggest move of the NBA offseason

by signing Kauai Leonard and trading for Paul George. But Doc Rivers said when Kauai met with the team, he made it clear he would not sign with them if they couldn't get George to join him. He said, I want to play for you. I love the things you do. and what you stand for you, but your team is not good enough. And if you don't change your team, I'm not coming.

We just showed him guys that we thought would match him. And when he saw Paul George's name, he said, I want to play with him. We showed him everybody else, and he didn't want to hear it. That's good. So I think Paul George does match his personality. Kauai was very covert and very smart. He didn't publicize it much. Right.

But I think Paul George matches his game. That's a very two good forwards who play both ends. Neither one is needy. I think it works. I think it's a great, great match. And Kauai is perfect for the Clippers as well. And they were a real fun team last year. And that's how you're supposed to build a team is stay competitive and stay in the conversation

and then add the pieces you need to put you up top. And now they're the favorites for next year. Doc also said he was very terrified that Kauai was going to go to the Lakers. And he said he actually told Balmer that if that happens, they're moving a team to Seattle. I didn't want to be in the same city. Yeah. He was joking, but he was actually that serious about it because that would have been. I mean, we talked about it nonstop.

what that would mean for the clippers if after all of that they also didn't get Kauai but they ended up in a great situation. Now who knows when Paul is going to actually be ready for the season but I think they're in a good position that they can ease Paul back from the surgery. I have

I will say this joy. Somebody I trust told me don't be surprised if both the clippers and the Lakers have slower starts and here's what I was told by an NBA exec. The Lakers

are an old team. They're in no hurry to get major minutes for LeBron, A.D., Rondo. They're going to ease this puppy in. And, let's be honest, LeBron has had some issues with Biggs in his career. He's always worked

with shooters. So they said, give this Laker team to the All-Star break. And they're also not going to play AD 42 minutes. The second thing they said on the Clippers, the executive said Paul George has now had a couple of surgeries. They are not rushing this thing. They're going to, they are, Paul George may not get major minutes for two months in.

Keep your eye on Utah and Denver early. Young teams, something to prove, high altitude, generally better than league average at home. And Denver basically brings back the whole team. So it's funny that my guys are like, listen, the Lakers and Clippers will be good. they will not be great the first 40 days of the season. Yeah, so don't panic until after the last break. These are veteran teams. You're not rushing minutes.

Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. Have a great last hour. A couple of different guests on the show. Of course, we have what we always do, tomorrow's headlines today.

Big college game, by the way, tonight. USC is hosting Utah. USC loses. They will unofficially begin their search for a new head coach, having lost at BYU last weekend. They also go to Washington and two Notre Dame after Utah, so it's tough sledding for the Trojans, and there's already a lot of tension in the building.

Coming up next, it's funny about the story that's a non-story, and I can't quite figure out why it is a story that's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the question.

questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kier Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.

I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you

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Search Learn the hard way and listen now. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.

And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us

on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.

So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Agency, the ability to know that we're the experts in our own body. On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. I wholeheartedly think, you know, you hit 30. You shouldn't have to share room with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health.

These are real, honest conversations. We don't always get to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them? Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing. That's not realistic. I'm standing and handing my children food.

Because healing, empowerment, and resilience aren't just ideas. They're practices. And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Start Saturday strong tomorrow with the Big Noon Saturday Game of the Week at Shay Patterson. Number 11, Michigan take on Jonathan Taylor and number 13, Wisconsin. It all starts with a big noon kickoff pregame show at 11 Eastern on Fox in the Fox Sports app. Jim Harbaugh is averaging through four years, nine and a half wins at Michigan a year.

That's what Michigan historically won with Bo Schembeckler, nine and a half to ten games. I think Wisconsin probably narrowly wins this. Harbaugh's never won it as an underdog to a very good weekend in college football. But expectations are very funny, is that, you know, this whole. whole Harbaugh story to me just cracks me up. We're all just crushing Jim Harbaugh. Ten wins. He took over a program that averaged six and a half.

He's averaging nine and a half. And the big ten is stronger today than it was six years ago. He's winning games. He's not beating Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, or Ohio State. Who is? Who's beating these teams? There's five teams he's not beating regularly. The Buckeyes happen to be in his conference.

Is Georgia bad program because they can't beat Alabama? Who the hell is beating Ohio State regularly? outside of like maybe Clemson. Well, is Georgia bad because they can't beat Alabama? Is Kirby Smart a bad coach? He can't beat Alabama. By the way, nobody in the ACC beats Clemson. Are they all dope, all those coaches?

Harbaugh's winning the games, 9.5, 10 a year he should win. He's not beating Ohio State and they've lost some bowl games against really top programs. He's winning a bunch of games. Camp Rattle is a hard place to play. LSU went to Green Bay a couple years ago. could not beat Wisconsin. When you get these southern teams north of Atlanta, the games are a little harder, right?

So I think Wisconsin will win, but I feel like I'm constantly defending him. By the way, last night was a crappy game, and we knew today's show, because it was a crappy game. We're like, uh, today's show, Blazing Five, but now the games move to Fox, and the next six Thursday night games are really good.

So our Friday show is going forward to be really good. Eagles at the Packers next Thursday. Carson Wenton, Aaron Rogers, one of the games of the year. Then I get Rams at the Seahawks. I get Sean McVey and the Rams, Aaron Donald against Russell Wilson, then Daniel Jones Giants at the Patriots. Then I get Patrick Mahomes at the Denver Broncos.

That'll be very interesting because Denver's a tough place to play. It's starting to get Colben. Then I get Redskins at primetime Kirk Cousins. But then I get Jimmy G and the 49ers at Kyler Murray, Arizona, in Arizona, it's like they're fun. So the next six Thursday night games on Fox are great. Okay, here's a story that is not a story and it's dumb. For some reason, everybody is now protecting Lamar's.

Jackson like he can't handle criticism. Stop it. Okay, he's doing just fine. I'm reading a bunch of stories about, oh, do you hear what Bill Paulian said? Do you hear what this guy said? Everybody was doubting Lamar Jackson. Everybody doubted Lamar Jackson because they'd seen it. It was called RG3.

Ran a 4-4, really good in college, ran around a lot, and everybody thought, is he RG4? Do you understand that Lamar Jackson ran for 1,600 yards in college? his last year. He ran for 4,000 yards in college. He ran a lot in college. He ran often on the biggest plays of the game in college. That's okay.

But people looked at it and said, oh, I've seen that. It was RG3 and it didn't last. And they both had kind of spindly frames. This is okay. Outside of John Elway, there has never been a quarterback in my life that we didn't doubt.

We doubted. By the way, I was all in on Andrew Luck. I got nothing but pushback for two years. Andrew Locke? Peyton Manning, 50-50 split, myself included. I liked Ryan Leifmore. We doubted everybody. Who haven't we doubted at quarterback?

Russell Wilson's college coach doubted him. He had to go to Wisconsin and then everybody, including the Seahawks, passed on him twice. Brady's sixth round, Montana third, Breeze second. Big Ben is arguably the most talented quarterback in the state of Ohio. high school football. Ohio State's like, not interested. Had to go to Miami of Ohio.

It's okay. You're going to get doubted. The quarterback position, I've always felt it's an absolute advantage to be doubted. Aaron Rogers, junior college, chip on his shoulder. Patrick Mahomes, little chip on his shoulder, drafted behind Tribesky. Baker Mayfield doesn't have a chip on his shoulder. He did in college, but now he's been all gassed up and thinks he's great. Lamar Jackson got criticism.

He has acknowledged in an article that he read it and thought, some of it's right. And what did he do? He went out and worked. Have you seen Lamar Jackson this season? He's all jacked up. Gained like 15 pounds of muscle. Look at him.

That's what criticism does. It gets you into a weight room. That's what criticism does. It does it in my business. It does it in that business. Criticism keeps you in the film room on a Tuesday when it's sunny outside and you're like, oh, God. Back, reverse.

respect. You look at the same coverage over and over. Tom Brady did an interview two years ago. I think it was with the NFL network. This is Tom Brady. At the time he had like, I don't know, four or five Super Bowl rings. And Tom Brady does an interview with the NFL films or the NFL network. And he starts talking about draft day. He's married to a supermodel.

He has a $400 million net worth. And he starts crying about draft day. It still bothers him. Stop protecting Lamar. He's doing great. I'm looking at those traps in the arms and the shoulders. I think the criticism, I think it's working. He's good.

Baker needs a little bit more. A little more humble, a little more doubters. You Cleveland fans, stop hyperventment on Baker. How about take a sign this weekend? Get better Baker. Baker, Baker, Interception Maker. How about a little criticism for Baker?

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2620 Packers, I still can't believe that Vaughn Miller and Bradley Jeb do not have a sack. That makes no... That makes no... Really? That doesn't make any sense to me. I can't figure it out. I'll take the Packers the win not to cover. Rich Ornberger's got great stories. He played, drafted by the Patriots,

drafted when Tom Brady was already in his career about 10 years. Let's bring him on the show on that giant Super Bowl winning team. Six years, now part of the loose cannons, San Diego Sports Radio, also an analyst on San Diego State Football with a legendary Ted Lightner down in San Diego. All right, so you walk in and let's talk. We always talk about like Dante Scarnacki is like the DB Cooper. Nobody's seen him, but we know he's amazing. So you get drafted by the Patriots, late round pick, which, by the way, don't take that.

You don't personally, because many of their best players are undrafted or late round picks. So when you walk into the facility and they hand rich you the playbook, humbled, frightened, what happened? Yeah, a little bit of both. That's a big playbook now. And I'm thumbing through this. I'm like, do they really know all this or is this more of a game plan thing? I remember rookie year, minicamp, Dante Scarnacia, you know, the guy nobody knows, but he's really been a benefactor to him for all this time.

I fumbled a snap with him at practice. And just the little things mattering so much. He took that football and fired it at my face mask. He was doing chin-ups on my face mask. That's like, you know, you don't turn around and stop the drill. You get back in there. You do this thing. So the playbook was tough.

The coaching was tough. The technique was important. Everything was important. It was very humbling. It was, it was, it was a good way to put it. It was humbling. Now, you get drafted. Now, Tom had already been there for what about a decade?

Yeah, he's been there about 10 years. He had been to four Super Bowls. He had won three of them. He's a Hall of Famer. Yeah. Yeah. and welcome to you. I mean, offensive line is crucial to Tom.

He's not hyper-mobile. So I imagine there was a relationship fairly quickly. Immediately introduces himself to you. It comes up to you in the wait room. He's in there working out in the off-season. He goes, I'm Tom. You're like, yeah, I know. And, you know, that's where it starts, but it doesn't end there.

It's constantly sitting down with you at the lunch table. He's a guy who's curious about your life away from the field as well. He even coaches you up on things that he sees that you're not doing well, or doing really well and compliment you for it. He's involved with everybody in that building. Nobody's above anybody, and he's the reason why, because he accepts criticism. He accepts coaching after all these years,

and he sets the precedent. You were also on a Giants team that won the Super Bowl, and that was kind of the nemesis for New England. Now, their culture was a little bit, well, I shouldn't say it was academic. You know Eli Manning. How does this all land for you? you're talking about Eli now being replaced. Yes. How does that land for you?

Well, so I was on the losing side of that Super Bowl, unfortunately. That was the Manningham camp. That was brutal, the catch that he had made in the second loss. You were still a patriot. Yeah, I was still a patriot. So, but, you know, moving on to Eli Manning, you know, just to talk on what he's going to be for Daniel Jones as he gets in the backseat. And now Jones takes a ride with this organization. He's going to be a great teammate.

He cares about this organization. he wants the Giants to do well and wants them to win. I played with a lot of guys who played with Eli Manning. They say he knows ball. He loves ball. All he wants is to be a winner. And so what he's going to do helping sculpt Daniel Jones, what we saw in the preseason was in part Eli Manning in Daniel Jones.

Rich Ormberger is joining us, Patriots, Giants. I want to ask you about Andrew Locke, because recently I read a story about you, and I'm not sure where I read it. Probably it was somewhere on social media. There was an article about how, you know, you dealt with injuries and like Andrew Luck. In fact, I think that was the genesis for the article was Andrew Luck's injury and his retirement. Similarly, you got to a point where football wasn't quite as fun.

Yeah. And let me ask you, when you saw Luck retired, did you feel like there was some sort of like injury kinship? Like, I've been there. Well, we all have it. What I was trying to do was educate a little bit because it feels really unique what he's doing when, in fact, it's not at all. A lot of players go through this. A lot of players start weighing and measuring. Is the sacrifice of making on my brain and body enough or too much to continue playing this game?

I mean, you're remunerated extremely well. I would never complain about the pay. But there is a point where you start thinking about driveway basketball with your kids one day. Sure, sure. And you start thinking, are my knee is going to be well enough to do that? My back is it going to hold up? Over the course of my career, I had two shoulder surgeries, a biceps reattached, a collarbone. They took part of that out.

an MCL tear, a season-ending concussion, a back surgery of the L3L4. I mean, there comes a point where you say enough's enough. And he hit that point and he had this impromptu retirement press conference because it leaked in a preseason game. You know, that's part about football. And I totally get it. It is, there is a military aspect to it. It's very covert. It's very secretive.

Secret stay behind the walls of the football team. and you're all making sacrifices with your body. And obviously, military is far more important than football in America. No question. But there is a brotherhood, and nobody wants to hear about the victimhood of football. But it's real. It is a brotherhood. You miss the locker room, of course.

Of course. I mean, you missed the personality. Some of my best friends to this day, some of the groomsmen in my wedding are former teammates. And I'll never, you know, they're just my guys. They're family to me. And, yeah, that bond is built. And look, are there similarities, between war or the military and football, sure, the stakes are so much higher for our brave

service and men and women. But yeah, because you are making a sacrifice and it is for a greater cause. It's to win. It's so the guy behind you when you're an offensive lineman doesn't get his head torn off. And when you fail, he pays for it too. So we're all in this together. And so there's a kinship built around that. But the other thing about it is a lot of people don't talk about their injuries because that's built into the culture too. That's right. I got an elbow. I don't want to hear about your knee. That's right. I got a ham. I don't want to hear about your back. I mean, we're all in this together.

Let's keep the morale up, troops. Yeah, no, no, you're absolutely right. You know, you look at some of these situations with, we'll talk about Freddie Kitchens. And I like the Rams this weekend because I do think it's a little bit of a coaching mismatch. I think Sean McVeigh is brilliant, and I have no idea what Freddie Kitchens is. He could be good.

I don't know. They looked a little overmatch last week despite against Tennessee two weeks ago. Sure. It's a big leap, Rich, from position. coach. Freddy was excellent. To coordinate her briefly, he did a very good job to now you have to deal with the crazy owner, the general manager. It's a big leap. Do you know, Freddie? Do you, Arizona, you had a relationship? Yeah, he was the quarterback's coach in Arizona. I played there for a single season in 2012. That's right. One year. So you do know him. I know Freddie. I like

Freddie a lot. I think his personality lends itself well to coaching. You talk about a morale guy. This was a this was a person who was able to keep spirits up for quarterbacks who are getting just thrashed around the football field in a five and 11 season with with Arizona Cardinals where we start out four and oh. Kevin Cobb goes down and we don't win but a one single game to finish out that year. And every day he approached it like we were preparing for the Super Bowl. Freddie Kitchen is going to have these guys prepared from a personality standpoint. I think he's going to be able to handle some of this

and to sort of give you a comparison about a guy who sort of followed that same path you're talking about with kitchens. Think Anthony Lynn. It goes from being a lifer at running backs coach. Then all of a sudden, in Buffalo, they acts Ryan. And two games later, he's the interim head coach. He becomes the signed head coach with the Chargers

and he turned that football program around. So let it bake. Let it bake with Baker and the Cleveland Browns. Freddie Kitchens is off to this start. We'll see where it goes with the Rams. That's quality opponent, though. You know, we've talked a lot about DAC, and he'll look like an MVP this weekend against Miami because it's a bit of a mismatch.

Dallas has, I think, 25 years and younger, maybe the best young talent in the game with Van derresh and Jalen Smith. Love Van der Leyen. Yeah, he's unbelievable. Eight-man football. Can you imagine eight-man football? Out of Boise. I couldn't believe the story when I heard it.

I cover the Mount West Lott. I call games for San Diego. state football, watched him on film. He's a tackle machine. He's all over. I'm like, this guy's going to be drafted. Dallas Cowboys did a great thing for their franchise future, getting him on their defense, especially moving on from Sean Lee. He's going to be tremendous for him. On the offense, I mean, when you think about what Kelmore has done, I'm having landscaping done at my house right now. I consider Kelmour a landscape architect. So we had the land. We had things that we liked and didn't like. We called in an architect. He made sense of all this.

It's amazing. Aren't they amazing? And that's what Kellan's done. Basically, they gave him a Randall Cobb. You know, they have a grown-up in Amari Cooper. I mean, he's, and you know what? When I watch the offense, the rhythm is better. Yes. There's a harmony with him and Dak, and maybe it's because he just played.

It's just, it feels like the question why is being answered. You know, why are we doing these routes against these coverages? Well, these work, and there's a learning curve. Like when something works, we're throwing that out. We're moving on to this. They're putting Dak in positions where he's making harder throw than he actually made last season with a higher percentage because they're open routes he's throwing to.

It's single coverage. It's a safety out of position. He's finding him on the backside post. I mean, it's beautiful and it's simplicity because he's making DAC look better. He's making the whole landscape better because he's just a better architect than who was in place before him so far. Yeah.

By the way, I ask guys this. Mark Schlerth has told jokes about this. Offensive linemen don't get loved. But many of my best friends in this business, I love Jeff Saturday. Damian Woody, I talk to regularly. I call them every couple of weeks. Go back to your NFL career.

So six NFL seasons. There had to have been one defensive lineman. Now, you're a big guy. You were probably bench in 400. You're all big strong guys. Sure. Okay. Was there ever a guy, Mark Schlerath tells the story.

I think it was Larry Allen for the Cowboys or somebody or something that's like, he just grabbed me and ragdolled me. Who was the best player that you faced in for the first time in your life? because you were probably very good in high school and college. They were like, oh, he could throw me into a waste paper basket. You know who it was? I'm going to guess. Alan Seneca.

You know who it was? It was von Miller. It was toward the end of my career. So now I have confidence. I'm starting for the Chargers. I'm playing center. I'm not going to go against Vaughn very often, but on stunts, he's going to come into the agap, B gap.

And every time I faced him when I was playing against the Denver Broncos, I had this feeling in the pit in my stomach because I could see. see it coming and I knew I had nothing for him. I had nothing for him. I mean, I would I would say to myself, well, hopefully this cut block works because I'm launching myself at his thighboards. He just was like cat quick and he was slender framed and he got skinny in a hurry and he was just so dynamic as a rusher. When he was looping around to the agape and we had a little space to dance, I said, you're winning this one, pal, throw it. Every offensive lineman's got a guy. He was my guy.

Yeah, and they're like, yeah, I can tell I was aging. He threw me around. And Rich Ormberger, it's great meeting you. Loose Cannons down at Extra 1360. San Diego State football with Ted Lightner, who I've never met, but is kind of a legend in our business. 71's still going strong, got his health, traveling, his kids, moving around, good stuff for you. Pleasure to have you on. Thank you.

By the way, Joy, Michigan and Wisconsin, Discover Card Key matchup, Discover at Miles card, match first year miles double them 35 becomes 70 limitations apply discoverer.com slash travel joy taylor with the news turn on the news this is the herd line news remember the first time i saw jonathan ogden in person oh my lord and i uh it's okay it's okay uh it was i just couldn't i couldn't process that a human person could be that big oh by the way john before the end of the show get a Jonathan Ogden.

There's a picture of Jonathan Ogden in high school. It looks like Mount Everest in a small valley. You cannot... Jonathan Ogden was four and that big. He was giant as a high school player. I mean, I just walked up to him. I was just like, stare at a guy. I was like, could I help you?

I'm like, I'm just trying to understand what would motivate my brother to want to line up. And like, how did he get around someone that sits at size? Well, Reggie White was the best defensive lineman I've ever seen. and would throw professional I always say when I covered Mike Tyson out of college, I had the great honor to cover Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson made 6'5 professional boxers

they were afraid. These are 6, 5 men of professional boxers. He was 5'8 and they wanted no piece of him. They didn't want a piece of him at a press conference. You could tell they would rather back out of the fight. That's when you're great. When other pro athletes are like, I'm out. Yeah, well, Jonathan Ogden is a different, he's different.

So Jalen Ramsey played with the Jags last night in their win, despite asking for a trade from the team. And it's now being reported that they might end up keeping their star corner in Jacksonville. According to Ian Rappaport, Jacksonville's owner, Shod Khan, loves Jalen Ramsey and is willing to make him the highest paid cornerback in the NFL. Now, he's making $3.6 million this season. He will make $13.7 million in 2020 in his fifth year option. So if he does become the highest paid cornerback, which is what he's looking for, would be somewhere in the $3.6 million. Xavier Howard, Josh Norman. Xavier Howard is the top paid, but he has $46 million guaranteed.

Josh Norman is second highest, but is $50 million guaranteed. The incidents with Jalen Ramsey and Doug Marone on the sideline, Jalen has said, was not part of the reason why he asked for a trade. It was an incident with the front office. Something was said that he felt was disrespectful, and he reached out to his agent afterwards after their first game. Well, my question is, if you have an agent, why are you in those meetings anyway? I don't like him.

Well, I mean, who knows? Maybe someone walked up to him and had a conversation with him, like, who knows what the interaction was. But the owner is more important than the front office in that situation. So if he wants them there, he's going to figure out a way to keep him. That's the way it works. That's what Jacksonville should do if they can salvage the personal relationships with whatever incident happened with the front office, because it's clearly not the head coach. You want to draft someone, develop them, they turn into a superstar.

You want to try and keep them. That's kind of the whole point. But if he doesn't, I'd like to see him end up with the Chiefs or Seattle. So rookie quarterback guard new, Gardner, Minshu, led the Jaguars to the first one of the season last night against the Titans. And people have been surprised by the sixth round picks, great play so far. But Minshu is not one of them. I know the preparation I put in. I know the guys that I have around me.

I know the coaches that we have. They've done everything they can to prepare me. So I never felt unprepared. I didn't have much experience, but I was definitely prepared. Washington steak Oh God, he looks just like Baker Mayfield Don't you think he's Baker Mayfield? He's getting compared more to Uncle Rico.

Come on from the Napoleon Dynamite Than Baker Mayfield. You know, there is a, first of all, nobody has any film on him. He's not a big arm guy, but you don't know what you're getting from him and he comes from the air raid. So Mike Leach is a great coach,

so he had a good college coach. You know what? He is the classic. You know, we talk about Lamar Jackson, who was a much better college player. You know, this is what quarterbacks, there's a lot of stories of it. guys like this. The college coach, junior college, bounced around, somebody gets hurt,

hoisted in. It's pretty interesting. Well, I mean, I'm not predicting Tom Brady here, but it looked like a devastating situation with Mick Folles going out. And he's been good for them. He had a good game last night. I mean, obviously Tennessee is Tennessee, but that's the game you need to win. And by the way, Baker, Baker Mayfields struggle with that defense. He didn't struggle with that defense. And I like how he is with the podium. For his, like, look and everything that's going on with him. He's very... You know, my wife always bangs on me when I wear a visor. I've got to be honest with you. Headbands and visors.

Everybody looks good in a headband and a visor. New? Yeah. No. Not everyone looks good. Monday show, I will consider wearing a headband for at least half of it. Well, you've backed out of our bed. You've come over to my side on the Rams and Brown, so that's off the table. You don't like him? Where do you wear a visor? Oh, every day.

To like the store? Oh, tennis. And then I just keep it on. hats. I don't like hats. So that's an acceptable place to wear a visor. Yeah. And then I wear it at the grocery store and I wear it around town.

Hi, everybody. It's me and a visor. I think it'll look pretty good. Finally, someone who could probably wear a visor, I guess, and make it cool. Odell was wearing a tinted visor at the beginning of the Browns game against the Jets on Monday. During the Brown's first drive, the reps made Odell leave and remove the visor before returning to the game. Odell is not the first player to wear a tinted vizer, and he thinks the refs were unfair to single him out.

Oh, boy. Just open your eyes a little bit, you know. It's just, like I said, there's people across the league. It's ten advisors, black visors, and it's, you know, it's me on Monday night in New York and all the lot and pull them off the field. I think he's laughing there. I think he knows he's just playing the game. Like, he can't keep a straight face with that. He's going, yeah, they're out to get me.

He's laughing when he's saying it. He knows it's ridiculous. I think he thinks that they are looking for stuff. So why is he laughing when he says that? Because it's like, it's kind of like when it gets to a ridiculous point and you just kind of, you just kind of give up and you just laugh at it. Like, what am I supposed to do? I mean, Alvin Kamara wore a gold visor week one. But it's O'Dell, like you're the most visible player. They're going to look for this type of stuff. He's the red sports car. Yeah.

And the cops look at the red sports car and think it's going faster even if it's not. Right. Because it's, you know, it's drawing attention. Right. So it kind of comes with the territory. So I don't necessarily think he's being picked on as much as that it's O'Dell and he's visible and people pay attention to you. So they're going to notice when you're wearing something that you're wearing something that you're. not technically supposed to be wearing.

I still, I can't picture the visor look. On me? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why like the look from Malibu's Most Wanted is coming to mine. No, Anzo was like, oh, God, it's so 1980s. And I'm like, Don Johnson was hot in the 80s. You can wear stuff from the 80s.

Shoulder pads for girls are still, depending on the outfit, very cool. So much happening here. But it's acceptable on the tennis court. That's where I wear it. Yes. Joy, with a lot. news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. Did you ever wear shoulder pads? Yeah, I wear shoulder pads often. Okay, there you go. I mean, not often, but if I have a blazer on, I wear shoulder pads. Not the huge ones. Just normal. Those were big in the 80s.

Yeah. Like every woman worked. But the 80s, the look is kind of back, you know? Thank you. Visors are roaring hot. Roaring hot, huh? Whatever. All right.

Tomorrow's headlines. today with Jason McIntyre and we also, oh, here's the picture. Okay. Here is the picture of Jonathan Ogden in high school. Oh, that's not a real picture. That is a real picture. That is not a real picture. That is a Photoshop picture.

That is from the onion. That is not, that is a, look at the size of Jonathan Ogden. By the way, it's probably the best left tackle in league history. That's not a real. I refuse to believe that's a real picture. Look at he's almost as big as the house behind the game. I still think it's Photoshopped. Look at that.

Oh, my, can you imagine being a five foot seven? I mean, those poor children. That should not have been allowed. Look at that. That is one of my ten favorite pictures in the history of sports. I've never seen that before. But that makes sense. I mean, it's that dramatic.

Oh, yeah, yeah. That is crazy. Supposed to be a good dude, too. Went to UCLA right around the corner. Yes, he's great. Tomorrow's headlines today coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific

on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio Radio app. Adam Schaefter is reporting Cam Newton's out this week. Cam Newton's out for Carolina this week. Car shopping's confusing. A lot of terms. Dealer price. List price. Invoice. Go save $3,000 off MSRP. Truecar.com. All right, here we are. Jason McIntyre, founder

the big lead bailed on that. Got Smart did radio and television. He's now every Friday. We do tomorrow's headlines today because he's a former news. paper guy. So we give you the story and you predict what the newspapers will say by the end of the weekend. Are you ready to go? I think we're like, what, 85% this year? Something's a crazy accurate number like that. What will the headline be after the Ravens Chiefs match up tomorrow's headlines today? Probably the best game of Sunday, right? Grid Sunday Slate. Some interesting line movement on this game. I believe the headline will be Sherlock Mahomes. Listen, a lot of people are excited about

Baltimore Ravens and understandably so. Let me point out the two teams that they have shredded are the dolphins who are like a CFL team. Right. And the Arizona Cardinals who had the worst past defense in the league last year. Right. So Lamar's feasted on two bad teams. I still like Lamar.

I like the Ravens this year, but the Chiefs, how about this stat? Are you ready? Pat Mahomes had six explosive plays in one quarter against the Raiders. That's a play of 20 yards or more. My Jets have three this season. Okay. Mahomes had six in one quarter. I mean, he's just not stopping right now.

Andy Reed is a juggernaut in September. Colin, I'm feeling like I was wrong about the Chiefs this year. There are going to steamroll the Baltimore Ravens. All right, Lions Eagles, Phillies all beat up tomorrow's headlines today. Well, when your Philadelphia Eagles fall to one and two, the headline will be Doug himself a whole. Doug Peterson, he's got a struggle in the first quarter. You know they were the worst first quarter team in the NFL last year? Right, 30 second.

And look what they've done in the first quarter this year. Just absolutely nothing. Struggled against the Falcons, struggled against the Redskins. And now they face a Lions team. And the Eagles, as we were talking about, before the coming out of commercial, they got a lot of injuries. Defensive line, wide receiver. They skipped practice a day this week. It's looking bleak.

I like my lions. Remember, I came on this show and hyped them up as a playoff team. You did. I like them to win outright in Philly. They're getting a lot of points here. I think six, six and a half. I like the lions going into Philly and winning. Daniel Jones.

is going to make the Giants far more interesting. If he makes him better, that would be a bonus. Tomorrow's headlines today will he turn the Giants franchise around. You love the Giants and the Blazoned Five. Colin, the headline will be Daniel is not the manual. Dan the Man? Not great. I knew that was so bad you would laugh.

I'm not feeling Danny Dimes. Okay, that's what they're calling him in New York. I like Tampa in this spot. I think they'll be all right, the Giants, but they're not going to come and win this game. You like them to be competitive. I just, you know, their defensive backs were complaining to the media, we can't cover guys for 10 seconds.

There's no pass rush whatsoever. They got a rookie cornerback who's ranked dead last among quarterbacks, the kid D'Andre Baker out of Georgia. They can't cover anybody. They can't rush the passer. That's not a recipe for winning. Yeah, they moved off Olivier Vernon and Cleveland's got him now. All right. Sunday night showdown. So much fun. Rams at Baker and the Browns tomorrow's headlines today. Yeah, we're on opposite sides here. I'm back in Baker. I think the headline will be turn that brown upside down Baker Mayfield and the Browns.

I like them in this spot. We've seen the Jared Goff road numbers. He goes on the road. He's not the same quarterback. And there was a clip that surfaced on the internet against the Saints where he comes to the line of scrimmage and he's just looking ahead, not reading the defense, and McVeigh's talking to him, telling him what play to run, and then he calls the play.

And it's not a knock on golf, but he's not going to come to the line, diagnose what's going on, and then call the play. It's all McVeigh. He's really calling the shots. And I think the Browns can really get to him. They've got an offensive line issue with the Rams this week. Their guard is injured. Could be down three offensive linemen.

Miles Garrett leads the NFL in sacks. I think the Browns show up on Sunday night football. I'm excited for this one. You had the Jets going to the AFC East to win it. Tomorrow's headlines today. What will the headline be after they get smoked by the Patriots? Wait, smoke? Do you think they're in trouble?

Yeah. All right, Colin. The headline for the Jets on Monday will be Don't stop Belavion. I'm not bailing on the Jets. They got the bye week. They will probably lose to the Patriots and the buy, 0 and 3.

And then they come out with a healthy Darnold off mono. They're going to have Quinn and Williams and C.J. Mosley back. Neither's playing this weekend. So maybe they lose 51-0 and you want to crucify Adam Gaze on Monday. And the other shows want to destroy and laugh at the Jets. But Philadelphia doesn't look as powerful as they did, you know, on the schedule. Again, reminder. Pittsburgh, they're done with Ben Rothersberg.

Andrew Luck is retired. The AFC feels kind of sort of wide open. The Titans, they're not going anywhere. I just am not ready to jump ship on my jets. Joy, stop. I can hear the laughter from the Dolphins fan over here. I'm just trying to absorb that you just said they might lose to the Patriots. They might.

I mean, they're 22 and a half points out. All right. All right. Wait, I guess you have another headline. Yeah, we have a special sixth headline here. I don't know if the audience is going to be ready for this one. The special sixth headline, Colin, will be. Do we have the headline?

There it is. Carry on my wayward Samson. Let's welcome in. Andrew Samson is a writer, our chief writer, producer, executive director of bits. He is one of the sharpest guys at FS1 behind the scenes, no joke.

And he has done our bits. The most downloaded stuff we've ever had have been his songs and his parody. He just got a job, a place I used to live. Tampa, you are kind of, tell the audience what you are. I'll be the content director

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It's a great market. Paul Delagado weather guy, be nice. I know all my guys in Temp. I worked there for years. Now, can we play our favorite, the most downloaded bit in the history of this show? Oh, all right. This is the most, this is Samson's bit.

We mocked him, and it actually was the most downloaded bit we've ever done on this show. And it's fitting because of Eli Manning's benching this week. Yeah. So what is it called? It's called Manning in the Mirror, sung by Michael Jackson. Here we go.

They've got to make a change at their quarter band. He used to be so great, so great. Okay, we're not that great, but kind of good in 2000 days. Each time that he lets go I'm going to run more Overthro I've been great to He's old to be nose

That's a friend Oh, man Andrew Sampson Wow Let's hope Eli doesn't go to the XFL Or I'm going to be in trouble there It's not good, I apologize Anyway, you've been great for the show

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