The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Dak Prescott, Jamal Adams, Bubba Wallace, Colin Kaepernick

Episode Date: June 22, 2020

Colin discusses Dak Prescott possibly signing his franchise tag, why the Jets should pay Jamal Adams, the disturbing incident that happened to Bubba Wallace, why Colin Kaepernick won't hurt NFL's ratings, and where he was right and wrong over the weekend. Guests include Doug Gottlieb, Matt Mosley, Cliff Avril, and Drew Bledsoe. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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She was in Miami. I was hanging out with my kids in Vegas. Joy, how are you? I'm great. A nice weekend. Happy Father's Day. Happy Father's Day to you, Colin. Thank you. I saw the picture of you and your brothers in Miami. And by the way, they got all the height in the family.

Yeah, I was going to say. We got a lot of stories to get to. I'll have some thoughts on Bubble Wallace, that situation with NASCAR that is troubling. But I want to start with two stories here. So, Dak Prescott plans to sign this morning a franchise tag, a franchise tender. Now, what does that mean? That simply means he can't hold out, and he still has a month to work. in a new contract. Now, I've been saying this for 18 months. I'm over this story. Pay him or don't.

And I've argued he is the perfect franchise tag quarterback, where he feels like he's 12th, 15th best quarterback in the league, but if you pay him a big contract, are you tied to that and he's overpaid? And, you know, I've always felt the same with that. The things I like about him really aren't the football things. His arm is average. He's an athlete, but not great. But the leadership, the toughness, you know, that's stuff I like. But it's interesting. I've been told he's going to sign a deal. And I keep saying Dallas pays everybody.

Where's the deal? I'm not so sure he is. So last Friday I did something with him. I said if you could just get the opinions out of it and you could create a data point on wins, playoff, wins, production, and availability. And you looked at Dak Prescott, where should he be paid? No opinions. 10th and wins.

13th playoff wins. 13th production tied for first in availability over the last four years. And that makes him the nine and a half highest paid quarterback about Ryan Taneyhill $29.5 million. But I thought to myself, instead of it, because I think we all think he should deserves more than that. I thought to myself, okay, let me get a comp for DAC because there are a lot of people that are upset. Dak deserves it. And I'm like, all right, let's get a comp for him. And there's a really good comp. Kirk Cousins. So Kirk Cousins, like. like Dak was drafted in the fourth round.

And Kirk Cousins, he didn't get a play initially because Washington drafted RG3, then that fizzled out, and then they put Kirk Cousins in. So Kirk Cousins, you forget this, finally allowed to start third year. His numbers are really good. He goes 9 and 7, 70% completions, 101.6 passer rating, 29 TDs, 11 picks. Those are big boy numbers. And he didn't have Dax's offensive line. So he goes 9 and 7.

So the franchise, right? Like the franchise. And he's like, hmm, I'm pretty old. So they say, give me an ear ear. So the next year he comes out.

And he goes 8, 7 and 1. By the way, they lost 4-1 possession games and tied one. He could have very easily got 11 and 5, 10, and 6. Goes 8, 7, and 1. Puts up good numbers. Completion percentage close to 70. Passer rating like elite, like Pro Bowl level. And they franchise tag him.

Now remember the franchise tag then was 19 million. Now it's almost 31 and a half. Were we outraged by Kurt Cousins? Not really. I was and I was like, I like him. I'm not giving him a five-year deal. In fact, when Minnesota signed him, I'm like, that's a lot for Kurt Cousins.

Kirk Cousins was Dak. Except DAC has a better offensive line. You could argue, Dax got better weapons than Kirk Cousins. And back then it was 19 million. Now it's almost 32 million. So the point being, if Dak gets a contract, I'm good with it. But I would argue Dak and Kirk Cousins are mostly the same guy. Now, I like Dak more slightly.

I think Kirk throws a better ball. He's a better thrower, accurate thrower. I think Dak's a little tougher, a little more athletic. And I think they both have nice leadership skills. I'd take Dak in big moments over Kirk. So I like Dak more than Kirk. But my takeaway on this, it's the same dilemma with both. There's a bunch of old quarterbacks in the league.

appear to still be better. And there's a bunch of really good young quarterbacks in the league that appear to have a higher ceiling than Dack and Kirk. And with both, I feel the same way. I mean, if you give them a deal, it's not going to crush the franchise. And you could certainly make arguments statistically productivity. They've earned it. But with both, it kind of feels like, man, there's old guys that are still better. There's a bunch of young guys that look like they have higher ceilings.

Do I want to pay my guy top of the market or near it? And he kind of feels like B, not A. So whether Dak gets it or not, there can't be any real outrage for it. This is Kirk Cousins. And nobody lost any sleep over Kurt Cousins. And I like Dak more than Kirk, but not a ton more. There's a way bigger gap between like Mahomes Lamar and Dak than Kirk Cousins in Dak.

So the issue in a salary cap league is, I can like a guy. But to pay him top of the market in any position, I got to love a guy. And I don't love Kirk, I don't love Dak. He did sign the franchise tender, meaning he's got now about three weeks to get a long-term deal potentially. I keep being told he's going to get it. But if not, he plays for $31.4 million, which I have always felt is closer to his market value. All right, this story. New rule on the show.

From this point forward on the show, I don't do this very often, new rule. if a team drafts you anywhere, first round, six round, and within two years of being drafted, you are arguably, or maybe even not, the best player at your position, just pay the guy. Just pay the guy. So the Jets draft Jamal Adams. He becomes the best player in the league at his position.

And suddenly that's a problem. No, no, no, no, no. That's what you're hoping for. So Jamal Adams was driving around this weekend and he was in Dallas, a cowboy fan. I think he was in Dallas somewhere. So here's the piece of audio we have Jamal Adams brings up wanting to play for the Cowboys. Hey, what's up, bro? Hey, you coming to Dallas?

Hey, man, I'm trying, bro. Okay. Just a new rule. The whole point, people say, well, he's a safety. And I thought about it this weekend. Well, safety has to matter because they drafted him with a number six pick. Wait a minute. So the Jets were telling you,

we need a safety. And you got it and he was great. And now you're saying, well, he's a safety. Nobody drafts a punter in the first round. Nobody drafts a kicker in the first round. When the Colts drafted the best offensive guard in the last 20 years in college football, everybody went, a guard in the first round, you drafted him six.

So you can't tell me now it doesn't matter. The other thing businesses do all the time, and I've dealt with this in my career. They go, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're setting up. precedent. Jamal Adams is the precedent. If Marcus May of the Jets came in and said, I want that contract, you'd be like, no, thank you. No, no, you can go to the bingles. We'll trade you. Like the new rule on the show, when Zeke came to the Cowboys, he not only could run, not only could catch, he was one of the top five blocking backs. Just pay him. I don't care about the position. The whole point of the draft is, especially when you're drafting guys first, second,

round. You're drafting pro bowlers. So if you outperform your contract and they thought Jamal Adams would be good, did anybody think he would be arguably, arguably a top seven, eight player in the league? I honestly believe, I've said this before, he's one of the top five to seven players in the NFL. But let's just stop the whole point of the draft and a lot of guys underachieve. when you go to the first round, that means this is a position of need. Nobody's drafting punters there. This is a guy we're hoping is a Hall of Fame level talent. And if he not only is a Hall of Famer, but it doesn't take him any time to develop.

Like Jamal Adams has been great by like his seventh game in the NFL. Just pay him. I don't want to hear about precedent anymore. Listen, you have to make exceptions for exceptional people. Kyle Shanahan. And I know there's no salary cat with coaches, but he had three years left in his contract. San Francisco's like, we're going to tear it up and give you a new one. Kyle Shanahan has a losing NFL record.

Now, think about that. He's got a losing NFL record. And the Niners are like, we ain't letting this guy get into the market. We're just going to sign him up. Now, I know it's coach. But they made an exception because Kyle Shanahan is exceptional. Oh, by the way, in the last four years, I looked it up. Jets have drafted one player who began a pro bowler.

It's him. I don't want to hear about precedent. I don't want to hear about exceptions. Do it. And this idea that he's a safety. No, he's not. The more I think about this, he's a linebacker. They put him at defensive end.

He's a football player. And he's by far and away the Jets best football player. And he's by far and away the best football player at his so-called position. Just pay him. I went back and forth on this the last month and a half. I'm like, you can do either way. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, stop, stop. New rule.

I don't want to keep flip-flopping on this. New rule. I draft you. You're the best player in the league at that position. I don't care about how many years left. Front offices, figure it out. Oh, by the way, you're still not paying Sam Darnold for two years. Figure it out.

Pay him. Keep him. All right. Disturbing story in NASCAR. And many thoughts on that, Colin Kaepernick. Brett Farves on his side now, which is. driving some people crazy, which is why I think I'm becoming more of a Kaepernick fan. All of that coming up next plus Colin right, Colin wrong, Doug Gottlie, this hour too. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd

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fantastic. He will, in my opinion, become much more popular immediately. They don't have the video yet. The FBI is involved. This is a death threat. That's why the FBI is involved. This should be treated as a death threat. I don't want to hear about anything else. That's how it should be treated. And to the fullest extent of the law, throw the entire book at whoever did this. It is gross and it is frightening. NASCAR should thank itself that Bubba Wallace is uniquely qualified to handle this. He is a real grown-up.

In fact, he never really got into politics until recently in Atlanta there was a race and somebody in his crew kneeled. And it moved him. and he said, you know, it's time maybe we talked about this stuff. He is the future of NASCAR, it should be noted. Young, qualified, and tolerant. And if NASCAR's got to get rid of 15 to 20 to 25 to 30% of their fan base and bring in people who understand the world we live in, I am all for it. NASCAR, again, is incredibly lucky that Bubble Wallace is uniquely qualified to handle this.

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Here's Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, Joe Burrow is dealing with an unusual transition to the NFL this year with a virtual offseason, as are all the rookies. But Bengals head coach, Zach Taylor, thinks Burrow has adjusted well, and he's living up to all the expectations they had when he was drafted. He said he's been great as advertised is the best way to put it. You can tell he spends a lot of time on his own being prepared with questions. And he's doing a great job taking ownership, which is important for a quarterback to do.

And he's doing everything he can to own this offense. Been really impressed with him, but not surprised. Well, isn't that kind of the minimum? Like, if you said anything other than that, I would be like, oh, this is not going to work. Like, it's not a knock on Joe Burrell, but what's he supposed to do? Not own the Zoom meetings? Well, I mean, I mean, I don't think that Zach Taylor would come out and say, something inaccurate, but it is

the bare minimum? The one, well, it is the bare minimum, but we get on guys when they don't do the bare minimum. Like there are guys that come into the league and do not understand how to adjust to the NFL, do not understand how to be self-starters. There's two interesting things that he said in that when it comes

to this whole statement. One, being prepared with questions. Whenever you have someone, like you're meeting, you meet with people all the time we want to get into the business or just want to pick your brain, they have interesting questions that you can tell they really actually thought about what they're asking. You're not just like, so, like, how hard is it to get up in the morning? Like, they have actual questions. Like, you can tell they want to know what's going on.

And that he's a self-starter. Like, that's going to be very important, not just for the rookies, but anyone who is involved in sports that are coming back that have not had their usual offseason or the NBA who stopped in the middle of the season, the guys that already took ownership over staying in shape and eating right, regardless of what the circumstances are, those are the ones that are going, we're going to be able to tell who those guys are right away. It's going to separate the talents from the true leaders and hard workers this particular period. Yeah, I mean, I think that's, I think that's, you know, I've talked to people about that people ask me all the time, how are you doing a show without sports? And I'm like, well, Joy and I really prepare. We put a lot

of time into it. So it's, we've been fine. I mean, it's not the easiest shows we've ever done. Sure. But like, the, the pandemic has really separated the people that are like, okay, this is really my career and I've really got to be focused. And I think Burrell is doing that. But as a quarterback, it's not a knock on Burrell. But if you said this about any rookie quarterback, I'd be like, oh, that's troubling. Like this is, to me, he shows up to Zoom meetings and he's prepared. Hell, I hope so. Am I coming off as negative Joe Burrell guy? You are. You are coming up as negative. You're like looking for something to be negative in it. I understand what you're saying. It is a bare minimum. But we're watching everything that he's doing. So you want to make sure he's

doing the at least at least the bare minimum. I do think that those particular things are interesting, though. Like when someone comes prepared with questions, that always changes how I'm approaching the conversation. Like, oh, you're not just like making stuff up as you go. You really thought about this and what you want to know. So Tom Brady was the cornerstone of the Patriots organization for the last 20 years. His talent obviously led the team to unprecedented success.

But Jason McCordy says it's also the intangibles that Brady brought to the team. They'll have to get used to living without. Tom doesn't have to say anything. As soon as he walks in, everybody's watching the way he works, the way he prepares. So I think not having him, there will be an adjustment. And I think that's what our league is. It's about change and how you adapt and how you're able to move on from it. That's what I'm saying.

All the conversation about Brady last year was what a big step he's taken back. They don't have the right pieces for Brady. They're older. What's happening with the team? They're not really as good as we think they are. the intangibles that Brady brings. Brady was the thing that made this whole thing work. Like it doesn't take anything away from what Belichick is or his greatness whatsoever.

But your star quarterback, the greatest to ever do it, completely buying in, being all of those things that we were just talking about with the Zach Taylor's saying, as Joe Burrow does. Being prepared, being the leader, asking questions, showing everyone how you work every day. New England's, setting the example. New England's franchise, the 30. some years before Tom got there, had a losing record. So just, I want everybody to know this.

And that was, by the way, they had quarterbacks like Drew Bledsoe. Like Steve Grogan, they didn't have a bunch of stiffs. Before Tom Brady got to New England, the franchise, nobody cared about them. They had bad uniforms and they played in cold, crappy weather, and the stadium wasn't very good, and it was hard to get to, and nobody cared about them.

They were a sub-500 franchise. By the way, Belichick had been fired before Brady and was 5 and 11 before Brady. Again, who's driving the bus? And I like my coaches, too. Andy Reid's very good. Andy Reid got great when Patrick Mahomes arrived. Like, never forget what New England's brand was.

Like, I've said this before. New England's no longer interesting to me, unless they get Trevor Lawrence. I mean, honestly, if I said to you, if the Patriots were on next year in Green Bay, Green Bay, if Miami's on next year, two is playing in New England, who do you watch? I'd watch New England.

I'd watch Baker. I'd watch Burrell. I'd watch Ben. I'd watch Lamar. Why would I want you? watch New England anymore. I don't watch games for coaches. I mean, I'm interested to see are you? What Jarrett Stidham is? Okay, for two games. Because I keep getting sold on this. Yes. I don't believe it. No disrespect to Jared Stidham. I just don't believe it. I don't believe

that you can just move seamlessly from Tom Brady into Jared Stim. Okay. And let's say after eight quarters of Jared Stidham, he looks, he's a Andy Daltonish. You watching their games? No. No. So like, let's not forget who story. It's not about coaches in the NFL. I mean, they matter. I'm saying like for a consumer. Yeah, for the consumer. Of course they matter. It's not anything against Bill Belichick. I'm just saying you had Tom Brady and he completely bought into everything that you were doing. I watched 14 Arizona games last year for Kyler Murray.

I watched every Browns game last year. And they had the worst coach in the league. I'm watching for players. I'm watching for dudes. So the Panthers are starting a new era with Teddy Bridgewater as their quarterback. And offensive coordinator Joe Brady, who worked with Bridgewater in New Orleans, is already seeing his leadership on display. Everybody that's met, you know, Teddy Bridgewater, I mean, he makes everybody better.

We had a day where we had Teddy, you know, Teddy, you're running the meetings, you know, and, you know, and I think that that's critical having a guy that, you know, understands a good amount of, you know, the system and what we're doing, but also has an idea of, you know, football and being able to explain it and teach it to others. And I think from a quarterback standpoint, when you're able to install, you know, a play, you're able to communicate terminology, even if it's different than you've known in the past. It just shows how valuable you are.

Carolina is the one team in the league that everybody predicts is going to be bad, and I actually think they're going to be pretty good. Most of the bad teams, I'm like, yeah, I buy your bad. They're going to score a bunch of points. I don't know if they can stop anybody. They're going to score a bunch of points. You watch. They're going to be a 26.5 point of game team.

Bridgewater, they have DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel. They have a lot of talent. And Joe Brady was the offensive assistant with the Saints in 2018 when they got Teddy Bridgewater. So what are you talking about? They already have a relationship. They're a step ahead in that regard. What scares me about that is the division, right?

That division is very tough. I do think that they have the potential to ruin a couple people. Oh, so do I? Totally. Totally. All I'm saying about, and this has been my thing about Teddy Bridgewater, is you can't like, there are so many similarities today. to Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Breeze. Now I'm not talking Drew in his prime. If you watch them play today,

Teddy at 30 and Drew at 41, you're getting a lot of the same guy. Not a lot of vertical threat. They can move, but they're not hyper dynamic. I mean, he was flawless with the same last year. I have two people I know that have played with Teddy. The first thing they tell you, gets the playbook down. You can throw anything at him at the line of scrimmage. He's quick. He's played football forever. I'm excited for him to get this opportunity. So do I. Yeah, yeah. No, it's, again, just look, he was, he has a winning NFL record and that's with injuries and bouncing around and having to like get injected into spots that weren't ideal. Winning an NFL record. Joy of the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News.

All sorts of stuff today. Top of the hour. Colin right, calling wrong. Let's bring in Doug Gottlie brought to you by Mercedes-Benz, the best, or. or nothing Doug Gottlie via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So, you know, it's interesting. I went back to Kirk Cousins, the last time we had a franchise quarterback. And I'm like, nobody was really outraged.

And it actually surprised us, Doug. We went back and looked at Kirk Cousins two years of starting, and they kept franchise tagging him. His numbers were pretty darn good. And I feel the same way with Dak that I do Kirk Cousins. Like him, but that's a lot of lettuce. And it was only 19 million for Kirk. And so if the Cowboys decided in the next two weeks,

we can't come to a deal, it's 31.5. Do you think, would you be outraged? Where would that land for you if he just gets the franchise tender? It would be one of the first times, Colin, in recent memory, where the Cowboys bit the bullet and did the right thing and didn't overpay one of their own, right? Like, that's the whole thing with the Cowboys is they may talk tough, but at the end of the day, they always relent and they give in to Ezekieli, at which they didn't have to or what they gave to Amari Cooper, who's valuable, but not a $100 million

wide receiver. So this would be, it would be surprising to me if the Cowboys stood firm and said, hey, you don't like it, playing the franchise tag. Look, the reason that you do a long-term deal and you overpay for a quarterback generally is so you have cost certainty, right? That's because this hurts you against the cap if you're the Cowboys, the people who don't remember, the franchise tag counts dollar for dollar. So it does hurt you, but it is your big point of leverage. For DAC, gives him a chance to perform, still negotiate a long-term deal. If they can't come to terms, they can franchise him next year.

So look, I think this is a good thing for the Cowboys. It's a fairly questionable thing for DAC, but it's a lot of money, and he's got a lot of talent. And if he's really a $40 million in your quarterback, we will soon find out. And there's one other part to this, which is really important, which I know there's other stories you want to get to in the NFL. But this is really important for people to realize. Just like your work at home, just like our work at Fox and Fox Sports Radio and IHeart Radio, the same is true with the Cowboys. No one knows what the economy is going to look like once we come

out of both the protests and quarantine. So the thought in everyone's mind is, well, the NFL is going to get new TV deals and more money. And we don't know fans are going to be at the games this year. I think they will be. The NFL has been completely positive, and they have all the different plans in effect. But the fact is that no one knows what the salary cap is going to look like. So in order to sign a quarterback to a long-term deal for 35, 40 million, you're saying you know when no one really knows. I think this is very smart for the Cowboys. In fact, they get back to to reliance inside the French attack. So I was thinking about this. We're both Charger fans. They drafted Derwin James.

Derwin James was absolutely immediately their best defensive player on a roster with a bunch of good defensive players. At some point, Tom Telesco is going to pay Turwin James because he's simply the best football player they have. He is the best player. And people can say he's a safety. But I said this morning, I started my show with a new rule. If you get drafted anywhere and you are literally the best player in the league, I don't want

to hear about precedent. You just take care of them. You get rid of somebody else. The Jets aren't paying Sam Darnel. He works perfectly within great. William's system. Greg Williams is hyper aggressive and loves playmakers. Third, the Jets don't really have an emotional leader on defense. CJ Mosley is more of a veteran kind of a quiet player. I could make the argument. You're not paying Darnold. Greg Williams is a perfect defensive

coordinator. You don't really have a leader. Who the hell cares if he's a safety? Dernwin James is the best charger. You just pay your best players. Is that not a legitimate argument? Not really, no. I mean, because you're saying, that the Jets won't pay him and the truth is that we don't know. The Jets don't know what it looks like. Now, first, if you want to compare him to Derwin James, the difference between the two is Derwin James, you can line him up at the line of scrimmage or you can put him as the very last man of defense. Like, he's the most versatile guy. But the chargers are a good example from this standpoint, Colin. Chargers have to extend Joey Bosa, right? They already extend

to Melbourne Ingram. Hunter Henry's on a franchise tag. They'd like to work out a long-term deal. But there are a bunch of other guys that have to get paid, and they, just like the Jets, are not paying top dollar for their quarterback. The Jets are in prime position here. Joe Douglas won in draft Jamal Adams, but he obviously benefits from inheriting a super talented player. He's not as versatile as Derwin James. He is super valuable, and he is far and away their best defensive player. But the Jets don't have to pay him. They don't have to trade unless somebody wants to give them some ridiculous trade.

and they got better. Like, let's remember, the Jets finished seven and two when Sam Donald came back healthy. So there's no reason for them to want. Why are you going to trade him? What for? Unless somebody is going to give you a pirate's ransom. And again, this goes back to no one knowing

what the salary cap is going to look like. We'll stay flat, will it go up, will it go down? The Jets, meanwhile, can sit there and go, you're on a rookie deal. We have the fifth-year option. If you don't like it, then, you know, you won't get paid. After that, we have the potential for a franchise tag.

So to me, I understand that you want to pay your guys, but you have to pay them at the right moment, at the right price. You can't overpay because, as you know, and you pointed out many times, the Jets have more holes in their roster than maybe anybody else in the NFL, and Joe Douglas is trying to patch those holes and can worry about Jamal Adams in a year. So I was thinking about this. The Patriots have this sort of adjustment period. and I was thinking this morning is that I remember growing up, I'm old enough,

the Chicago Bulls were a mediocre franchise. That's being nice. Before Michael Jordan, they were sub-500. After Michael Jordan, they're sub-500. Before Michael Jordan, 22 years, five playoffs. After Michael Jordan, 10 years, three playoffs. Same equation. But Michael made him so great.

We think of their brand is a winning brand. And we're like, oh, they're already disappointing now. No, they're what they've always been, kind of dysfunctional. New England before Brady was dysfunctional. They got to a couple of Super Bowls. They got crushed in one and beaten badly in the other. And the reality is this idea that we think of them as a winning brand. And I'm like, no, Belichick wasn't even a winning brand.

I really believe that we're going to figure out about eight to 12 quarters in is this franchise will never be the same. That Brady is the Michael Jordan of the franchise. He changed how we view it. But it's always kind of a, you know, patriots in most of my life were bad uniforms, North East, there were a million. I cared more about the Steelers. Listen. Listen, listen, I think people have forgotten.

And I was born in Milwaukee. So we used to, the Packers used to play once a year in Milwaukee. People forget that before they got Brett Far, they were terrible, right? Empty seats at Lambeau Field, they were one of the laughing stocks of the national football. People forget that the New Orleans Saints, they made the playoffs once, they made the playoffs a couple times, but they won one playoff game before Drew Breeze got there, right? So you're not wrong that a transcendent quarterback does forever change a franchise. And the good thing for the Packers was they had barbed than they had Rogers.

You know, we'll see what happens post-brease with the Saints. The idea that the Patriots will be the same seems to not, you know, hit the smell test. But what the Patriots are doing is they've, I think they've looked around the league and they've said, all right, how do you build this, rebuild this thing smartly? They're in Tapel this year. So they got to figure out, all right, how do we fix the quarterback? They have Jared Stidham. He's a fourth round pick.

And you mentioned Kurt Cousins. The same is true with the Dallas Cowboys. The best way to build a team is not just with a quarterback on a rookie contract, but a quarterback on a fourth round draft pick rookie contract. And so you give him half the season or a third of the season. And if it doesn't work, Sifon Gilmore, you can trade him and get a first round pick and probably then some. They'll get cap relief next year. They'll load up on second and third round picks.

there has to be a rebuild in New England. They were stretching it out because as long as you have Tom Brady, you stretch it out. But now he's gone and you figure out if we can replace him with Jared Stidham on the cheap. Great. Now we'll put our resources everywhere else. If we cannot, then they probably use those first round picks in try and draft to Trevor Lawrence. This is like a gap year for the Patriots where they try and figure out, can we find a way to still make the playoffs? Because look at the other teams in that division.

debts, bills, and two eventually will take over in Miami. All these teams are built the same. You get a young, talented, much more athletic quarterback in terms of moving the pocket than you have with the older guys, but you save money on a rookie contract and you build the rest of the franchise. And you hope that it's good enough so that when you get into a, oh, your quarterback's good enough. So when you get into what the chiefs will look like when Mahomes gets the deal or what Seattle's

look like. Your quarterback is then good enough to carry you when you can't give your resources elsewhere. But that's a second contract that's far down the road. I think they give him a third to half of the season to see what Stidham has. Remember, Stidham was very heavily recruited when he went to Baylor and then was very heavily recruited when the Baylor thing blew up and he went to Auburn. He played in two quirky systems. He's been a year in that system. If a guy's going to make it work, you will know here in the first third to half of the season in New England.

So we're going to find out in about a month and then some NBA comes back. and it's interesting. I've been reading a lot about projections on what's going to happen. And you and I would both acknowledge this morning, the Clippers have the better front office than the Lakers. Right now they've got a really good ownership group. In fact, you may have told me this about a month ago. The Clippers feel like the Lakers did forever.

It's like the right owner, the right people, the right coach, they're right everything. And they have built this roster with a bunch of guys that can guard LeBron. Paul George for a quarter, Kauai for a quarter, Morris for half a quarter, Patrick Beverly. They're built unique. It's almost like they built it to beat LeBron. on. And they played the Lakers several times. And they were better. They were better. And the

Clippers are 11 and 1 when they were healthy. Why do you think there is this now narrative that the time off helped the Lakers? Didn't we see in the first part of the season? Clippers are better. They're simply better than the Lakers this year. Well, at the end of the season, the Lakers beat the Clippers and it looked like the Clippers were trending to be better than the Lakers. That happened too. I think that the running theory that the clippers, that the Lakers benefited more than the Clippers did is very simple. LeBron seemed to, at some point people felt LeBron would wear down because he was carrying the team too much, right?

That's really what it comes down to. It has nothing to do with the rest of the Lakers. Because I agree with you, like, what did the Clippers lack? They lacked cohesion. They lacked the ability, the time to play together. That's what they did. And they lacked having Paul George and Kauai Leonard fully healthy. They should both be fully healthy.

An additional training camp will only help them. I think this helps the Clippers. But when we saw the Lakers at the end of the season, when they had learned to play with LeBron, the only fear was that LeBron would get hurt from carrying such a burdensome load within this roster. I think it's going to be fascinating. Because look, I don't think you're going to get great basketball.

There's just no way you can convince me that guy staying in a hotel for two or three months is going to bring out the best in them. and even your best friends become your biggest enemies when you spend two or three or four weeks with it, right? Right? Like, look, you and I, I don't know if it's the reason you got divorced a second time from your first wife, but I will point out it did happen after we all went to Vegas and then drove to San Diego

and spent all that time together, right? These things really do happen, right? Quarantine divorces are real. I just wonder what it looks like. All these teams that like, each other. Do you like each other after three months? Does it bring out the best in basketball? But to answer your initial question, why do people think the Lakers benefited more? I just think it's that they feel like LeBron was a bit worn down. This will recharge him.

It'll recharge Anthony Davis, who has trouble staying healthy. I think they're without question the two best teams in the NBA. But you are forgetting the Lakers were better than the Clippers before this thing ended. Doug Gottlie, the Dugger after our show, Fox Sports Radio. Great. See you. You, Doug. Top of the hour. Colin right, Colin wrong. next in the herd. Colin Kaepernick just drives some people crazy. But his influence hurting the NFL has always been massively overstated. He'll probably play again. He may take a knee again and the NFL will be fine. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays

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What's funny, Kaepernick didn't take a knee for college football. So why were the college football ratings down way more than NFL? I thought it was Kaepernick! Donald Trump was running for president against Hillary Clinton, who at minimum is polarizing. So you had the most polarizing Democrat on the face of the planet, Hillary Clinton. You had the most polarizing human ever running for president, Donald Trump. And the NFL ratings were down the Kaepernick knee year, 8%. Not 18, not 28, not 28, not 48, not 48.

Eight. Studies indicate men watch two things on cable TV, sports and politics. So as Fox News, MSNBC and CNBC's ratings went up 100% football ticked down. Most of us are grownups, even if we agreed or disagreed with Kaepernick, we still watch football. Brett Farve this weekend thinks Kaepernick is going to go down like Pat Tillman as iconic. Here's Brett Farv. You know, I can only think of right off the top of my head.

Pat Tillman's another guy who did something similar. And we regard him as a hero. So I assume that hero status will be stamped with Kaepernick as well. It's not easy for a guy his age, black or white, Hispanic, whatever, to stop something that you've always dreamed of doing and put it on hold, maybe forever for something that you believe in. This just drives a lot of people crazy, mostly conservatives. Oh my, I can't believe.

Folks, Nike didn't sign Colin Kaepernick because they thought he would tank their business. Nike stock is up 20%, shoe sales are up in a bad economy. The thing was always loud voices. Studies show that people watch football. Just think about this. In the most polarizing election, I'm 55 years old, of my life, Donald Trump and Hillary, it was like beyond,

ugly. Ratings for all the cable news stations exploded. And the NFL was down 8%. That's it. College football was down 16% that year. They didn't have a Kaepernick story. The elections destroyed college football ratings and hurt briefly the NFL's ratings. Here's another thing that nobody wants to admit with Kaepernick. Most of us, and I've said this before, I'm not a big fan of people. bringing their politics to work. I said this about Kaepernick. A, I think you should keep your activism. There's plenty of time for activism and there's plenty of platforms for activism. If I have activism, I don't do it on this network. I do it on Twitter, Instagram. There's a lot of platforms for it. Be that as it may, you can disagree with me. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just my take has always been

I wouldn't bring a picket sign to Fox. I could do it outside the building. I could do it in my neighborhood. I could protest. I'm not a huge fan of kind of using your work for your activism, but a lot of people disagree with me. But the idea is that. that it just blew the league up is a bunch of nonsense. It is a most people can handle somebody having a different opinion, even if you don't like their opinion. Joe Rogan said something this weekend about Joe Biden and masks. He was talking about you shouldn't wear masks.

I totally disagree with Joe Rogan. I think you should wear masks. I think if everybody wore masks, we'd have a football season. What worries me is you guys won't wear masks. But I can disagree with Joe Rogan. I'm okay with it. I totally disagree with him. I think he's totally wrong.

But I can still listen to his podcast if I feel like it. I'm grown up. I can handle a different opinion. What's interesting is, if you go back to the Kaepernick year, to prove my point again, because again, if you just want to be right and use your agenda to prove you're right, college football was down more than the NFL with Kaepernick. Why? Did college football get bad?

No. It was Trump and Hillary. But what was funny about the NFL, the minute the election was over, the NFL, the NFL ratings were down in September, October, early November. Then the election was over. And after about two weeks of Trump, you know, being polarizing. December and January? Oh, the ratings in the NFL.

They weren't down as much. In fact, the Super Bowl that year was the fifth highest watch Super Bowl of all time. You want to be right? Run the Twitter. Want to get it right? Listen to our show. But the idea what Farve said this morning is remotely controversial. There's nothing controversial about it.

If you politically have a point of view and you want to, you know, you got an axe to grind you want to prove right? Go for it. That's fine. But if Kaepernick comes back, it's not going to massively dent the ratings. I do think there's 2 or 3% of people that'll just say no. But I also think in November, Donald Trump is trying to get reelected.

And if the ratings go down again, it won't be a Kaepernick issue. It'll be a Donald Trump issue. And they'll go down in college football. And they'll go down in the NFL. And then by December, they'll go back up. We like our football.

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Where Colin was right. Jack Prescott signed a franchise tag. Now, he may get a long-term deal, but I'll believe it. When I keep being told by everybody, he's going to sign a deal. I think, well, they paid everybody else when they're going to sign him to a deal. I think this is his value. I think 31.5 million bucks. It's a lot of money in the state of Texas for a young man.

Now, earn, deserve, blah, blah, blah. Doesn't mean he's not going to get a long-term deal. And my guess is with Mike McCarthy, he's going to be better than he was with Jason Garrett. And at the end of the year, you're going to go like 96 quarterback rating, 68% completion percentage, a nine-win team. And they're going to give him a deal. But until they give him a long-term deal, I'm right. This is what I predicted. If they wanted to pay him, they would have paid him.

And $31.5 million, that feels like to me very close to his market value. where Colin was wrong. Okay, 11 days ago, I made a bold prediction on this show, and here it is. So I get, what time is it right now? It is 1035 Pacific. So by 1035 Pacific on Saturday, we'll have a deal done. Yeah, that didn't happen. And we still don't have a deal done, and my sources were not great on that.

Major League Baseball does not have a deal. It does feel like it's getting close. but I think even diehard baseball fans I mean diehard people that have defended it despite its issues for years are over it and are embarrassed by it we're going to have a season it's going to be really really really short

it's going to feel different I'm all for it but at this point I think even diehard baseball fans have to acknowledge this has been really a bad look for the sport where Colin was right so PFF, Pro Football Focus came out with a study last week

and it rated the best quarterbacks in the league on non-first read throws This is when stuff breaks down. Russell Wilson was the best quarterback in the league miles ahead of Aaron Rogers, who I've been saying for years, Russell's better than Aaron. But look who else is on the list. Carson Wentz and Jimmy Garoppolo. In fact, you can make an argument.

These are five of my top six quarterbacks in the league. Garoppolo is not the system quarterback you people are claiming. When the first read is not there, he is top five in the league. and Carson Wentz, despite all the critics, top five, and that is with offensive line and wide receiver issues the last two years. Where Colin was wrong. Fox Bet last week said Bill O'Brien's the worst coach in the NFL.

In fact, he's the only coach that hurts you. You'd be better not having a coach than having Bill O'Brien. He's minus points. I'm going to defend this guy, but maybe I've got to, I'm just seeing something. four division titles in six years. He won a division with Brock Osweiler. I could just end my argument right there.

But Fox bet now, and they're not trying to win an argument. This is all about, like, analytics. They have Bill O'Brien as the worst coach in the league. He's nine and two against Doug Marone, and Doug Maron is rated significantly higher than Bill O'Brien. And he's nine and two against him with several different quarterbacks. I think he's a good coach. I think he's a lousy GM.

But I'm in the minority. When I watch Houston Texans games, they are inconsistent. I'm not saying he's a top five coach. I'm not saying he's top eight coach. But I don't see a team that's uncreative. I don't see a team where the best players don't get the football. When I watch their games, the best offensive players get the football. I thought he was very successful considering the Joe Paul Sandesky mess.

I thought he was very good at Penn State. I'm in the minority. Where Colin was right? LeBron James runs the NBA. Several players for the last two weeks have debated Kyrie Irving, Dwight Howard, Avery Bradley, the importance of not playing in the NBA. Then Patrick Beverly came out with a tweet last week and said, LeBron want to hoop, we hoop.

Absolutely. Been arguing this for years. He is the gravitational center of the sport and should be. He is well-versed on politics. He's well-versed on basketball history and culture. He's well-versed on media. He's always prepared. He is not perfect.

None of us are. But LeBron James has made everybody, including Adam Silver, millions and millions of dollars. And if LeBron wants to hoop, we are going to hoop. This has never been a league where the Orlando Magic mean as much as the Celtics or the Lakers. It's never been a league where Judd Buschler means as much as Magic or Michael. It's a star-driven league, and he is the gravitational center of the sport, not Kyrie Irving. where Colin was right. Kyle Shanahan got a new contract extension,

and here's why I'm proud. We all thought he was a good coach. But a year ago, before last year, I said, I live in Los Angeles, and I like Sean McVeigh. But Sean McVeigh is not the best offensive coach in his division. And I said this as Shanahan was losing and McVeigh had just gotten out of a Super Bowl.

I said, this is the best offensive coach in football. He is. This is. The Niners have secured Kyle Shanahan to now he's got six more years left. It's one thing to say he's good. We all thought so.

But you go 15, 18 months ago, and I swear to God, if you had a cup of coffee with Sean McVeigh, you got a job in the NFL. And I kept saying, I like McVey a lot. I think he's really good. He's not Kyle Shanahan, proven again this week. Where Colin was wrong. Well, Alabama.

I've been banging on Alabama for years because they play a cupcake schedule. year after year. Nick Saban, after about year three at Alabama, decided I'm not going to go on the road and ever play anybody that you've heard of. Give Alabama credit. They went out in the last couple of weeks, and they are scheduling big boy football games. Home and home with Texas, Wisconsin, Florida, state, Ohio state, and Notre Dame. Now, my guess is Nick Saban will not be around for the Ohio State and Notre Dame games, but nonetheless, I have clobbered them forever for manipulating the schedule. everything is like at a neutral side at a conference.

They won't go on the road and face a big dog. Georgia will go to Notre Dame. LSU is always willing to go on the road. Alabama isn't, but to their credit, they stepped up. I think the win, believe it or not, is not just for college football, but for Alabama. It lets credibility to Nick Sabin's legacy because the one knocking it right now is he has ducked opponents.

You can't say that anymore, especially in the next three or four years. Where Colin was right? A lot of critics on Lamar Jackson, and I didn't know if he'd make it, and I'm surprised by how good he's been. But even after last year, there's critics, and he did something again this past week, which I just love. He's never passive-aggressive. He'd just tell you exactly what he thinks.

And he said last week, yeah, I overlooked and we overlooked Tennessee. He's also the kid that said, yeah, I listened to all you guys that said I wasn't a good enough thrower, and I worked on it all off-season. And he also came out and said, yeah, everybody said, I was a little skinny, so I went and put weight on. How many young people will go out and acknowledge? I not only listened to the critics, but I literally worked on what the critics said I needed to work on. This is why I like him.

It's not just that he can run around. The reality is it's not passive aggressive. He owns his crap. He owns his weaknesses. He confronts him. And this is why I think he's special. He came out and acknowledged. We've overlooked him.

Just flat. We just flat overlooked them. It's a very rare quality for a young person to be able to go, yeah, I needed to work on this, I needed to work on that, I needed to work on this. And I heard the critics all three times. Where Colin was right? This is the rightiest one in the history of the show. About five years ago, the Jets drafted second round Christian Hackenberg Penn State. Nice kid, nice family. I said at the time, it's the worst draft pick I've ever seen.

He cannot play in the NFL. He struggled in college. He had 48 touchdowns and 31 picks in college. He completed 56% of his throws in college. And I said, this is not a bad draft pick. He cannot play in the NFL. He is not an NFL quarterback. Last week, he quit football.

He's going to play baseball. I wish him the best. He's probably a great kid. But I said it at the time. This was not about like, you know, I'm not sure he'll play. I said it at the time. This is an NFL football team that literally didn't do their homework. you could make five calls around football.

None of the guys I liked it. They're all like, no, he's just not accurate enough. He's a big, great high school stud, but he doesn't move well. He's not accurate. Again, good kid. Last week, he quit football after never really playing. All right, there you go. Oh, look at this.

Coming up next, this is interesting. Drew Bledsoe, my guy, was recently, in a Browns quarterback Zoom meeting with Baker Mayfield. Do you know what I had last Thursday night? I invited my buddy, Dad, Ron Regis over, and we had Blood Soles Wine. He'd never had Bloods'Oles Wine. How is it? His cab, it's the best cab I've ever had.

Really? Yeah, his cab is, he's got a bunch of wines. His cab is unbelievable. And my friend, we had a glass. I'm not a big wine drinker. We had a glass, and my buddy said, can I take it home? So he literally grabbed the bottle and ran out of my house and took it home. So Drew Bledso, the winemaker, the quarterback, is coming up next.

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With a lot of topics today, I would told that he was on a Zoom call with Baker Mayfield. You know Baker's the only guy I follow on Instagram? I follow one person on Instagram. It's Baker Mayfields. I love this. Is that called trolling?

Yeah. It's fun. It's good-natured. He's always welcome. You don't dislike Baker. No, no, no, no. It's not. His immaturity drives me nuts, but I don't dislike him. I think he's smart. I think he's a gamer. There's parts of him I like.

You also take a lot of happiness out of only following Baker. And I'm not going to lie about that. Drew Bledsoe joining me via the Coward Global Satellite Network. Just talking about having a glass of his cab theater. Oh, my God. Look at this. I'm working, Colin. I'm working this morning. Talk about trolling.

people. So now this is Drew Bledsoe's winery, which is a stunning facility. You've been in the wine business for how long, Drew? 13 years now. Started in 07, if you can believe that. It seems like yesterday, but yeah, I'm kind of an old dude in the wine industry now.

And you weren't, you didn't get it to be a celebrity wine. Like this is a highly rated wine. In fact, you told me the first seven, eight years, you didn't make a penny. Right? Yeah, no, no. It's, it took us seven years before we started making any money at it. But we've got our own vineyards, we've got our own facility, we've got our own farming company. I mean, we're kind of a real thing now.

And thankfully, we've got an amazing team that's kicking butt for us and making great wine year after year. You know, it's kind of like playing quarterback. All those guys do the hard work. And I get to stand. It's kind of cool. Doubleback, by the way, is the name of the wine. Okay. So I want to talk about the adjustment period for New England.

And this is not a shot at New England. But I said this was an organization that had a couple of Super Bowls, but they had a losing record going into Brady. He created this sort of unique kind of vision of what the franchise is. And I think it's going to be a real adjustment period, not just football, Tommy, but leadership, Tommy. I'd like you to address those thoughts. 100%. It's going to be a huge adjustment.

You know, Tom, and it's kind of funny, when you think about it, you and I are a little bit older. but for some of these kids that have been drafted the last four or five years, Tom Brady has been football to them since they started watching football. I mean, they're 20 years. And you've got guys that come in the building that are 21 or 22. They've never seen an NFL game or an NFL season where Tom Brady wasn't like the marquee, you know, quarterback. And so just the fact that it's there and walks into the room with some of these young guys,

all of a sudden everything takes on a whole different level of seriousness. And then on top of that, you know, his work ethic, which is, you know, well known and that leadership that he supplied. And not having that there, it's a big, big change to that organization. They're going to have to be some guys that step into that leadership void and really try to carry that load, you know, for the Patriots. And then, you know, I do think, though, that with Jared Stidham, who I, you know, I think he's going to be a good player.

But you also, you go back and you remember, you know, Tom's first few years, this wasn't the aerial circus where they're throwing it 40 or 50 times a game. the first few use that he was starting. You know, they're playing defense. They're running the ball and they're taking care of him, not putting him, not putting an undue share of the burden on him to carry the load like he did later in his career. And I think that'll be the case with Stiddam as well.

Early on, I think they'll take some of the burden off of him and, you know, try to make things easy for him early. And then if he shows that he can carry that load, then they'll give him more going down the road. But it's, you're right, it's going to be a big adjustment for everybody. Even it's just a fan. It's going to be different, right? And watch the Patriots.

You have somebody else playing quarterback for the first time in 20 years. It's pretty crazy. It's interesting. I think Tom's going to flourish in Tampa. But here is my only concern. It is very easy to find a guy that's intense. Tom Coughlin comes to mind. Take a really intense guy and tell him to chill out a little.

It's different to take a very relaxed chill guy and tell him you need to be intense. New England is the epicenter of intense football. Tampa Bay, Ebor City, Cocker. at five has always been sort of a loose, fun organization. Tommy's going to take that intensity. Could it be problematic that it takes a while for everybody to understand that you live in the facility for four months? You know, well, first of all, you know, there are these different cities where these teams exist. And Boston is maybe the most intense, not just football, but sports in general. I had to learn.

I came from a little small town in eastern Washington. and all of a sudden it gets slammed into Boston, you know, where sports is religion. You know, out here it was, you know, sort of something you did. If nothing else was going on out there, it's they live and breathe it. So the city, you know, that's different. But if you're playing a professional sport, and especially if you're playing football, if you're not showing up every single day with great intensity, ready to, ready to work hard, bang heads, you know, all of those things, then you're in the wrong profession.

So let's start there. But then with Tom, he brings so much credibility, you know, to that organization that he's immediately going to elevate that within the building. What they do when they leave at the facility might be a little different. Leave the facility and go to the beach. That sounds pretty good. I never got to do that. I've never got to do as a Buffalo.

Got to go to Dallas, so at least it was warm. But once you're in the building, you better have that intensity already. And then with the credibility and the work ethic and all the things that Tom brings, I think it's going to elevate things for them right away. I want to talk about Baker Mayfield. You were on a Zoom

call last week. And everybody thinks I hate Baker, I've said. He's a franchise quarterback. He's not, he probably wouldn't be a guy. I put my arms around, but he's got talent. And I did think he was, I thought the coaching situation last year was not good enough at the NFL level. I just didn't think it worked. I do think he's going to have a very solid year. But again, I think his ceiling is much lower than a lot of other people. So you're on the Zoom call. Why were you invited and what did you make of it? So their coordinator for Cleveland for the Browns, Alex Van Pelt.

He was a backup quarterback with me in Buffalo for a couple of years. We were also drafted the same year. This is a good story. I won't take a bunch of time. But I turned 21 at the scouting combine, right? And Alex was drafted the same year. He's a couple years older. So my 21st birthday was in Indianapolis at the Hooters in down to Indianapolis with

Alex Van Pelt and Gino Toretta. So Alex and I go way, way back. Okay. So, but, so Alex, invited me to come sit in their Zoom meeting. We talked a little bit of football. He wanted me to talk some Red Zone stuff with him. And then he wanted me to talk a little media stuff with him, but then the rest of it was just telling a lot of old war stories. But one of the things that Baker has going for him, though, is that Alex Van Pelt is an outstanding football coach. Not only

X's and O's wise, but he played the position for a long time. And I tell him, I give him great respect because he played quarterback in the NFL for like 10 or 11 years with really not very much talent. I'd like to remind him of that. I do think he's kind of proud of it. because he, you know, kind of a short guy that couldn't throw it real hard, but he played for 11 years. But one of the great assets that Baker is going to have, though, is he's got a guy that's calling plays for him that not only understands the exes and knows, but he understands everything else that goes into playing quarterback. You know, Alex was, he was in Buffalo with Jim Kelly, and then he went through the Flutian Rob Johnson years, and then we were together for the while. He's seen the ups and downs of playing quarterback in the NFL. He knows how to help a quarterback.

He was really helpful for me just as a back and quarterback. He was almost a coach on the sidelines. So that's going to be a big asset for Baker going forward. And I also think they've upgraded their offensive line. They've done some good things in the off season to build from the inside out. You know, a year ago, we got all excited because they had all the bells and whistles and all the fast guys and all that stuff. But you and I both know that true football organizations are built from the inside out. And they address some of that with their offensive line.

I think he's going to have a really good year. I think, you know, I know you follow him on. He's the only one you follow on social media. I hear that. I follow my social media. I spend a lot of time on a call on. Yeah. You got to follow me.

Come on, bud. But I think Baker's going to be really successful. I think he's going to surprise a lot of people. By the way, so do you have a camera guy there, or is this your own phone? No, this is actually a camera. I'm at the winery. We've been doing so much Zoom stuff now, like everybody else. We decided to get a little more professional here.

Last time I was down on the cellar today, it's so beautiful out. I should sit outside and drink some wine while I talk to you. So it's called Doubleback Winery. It is the cab is, what are you drinking right there? It is great wine. This is a 2017 double back cab. The best wine we've made so far, although the stuff that's in the cellar may be better from 18. But yeah, our team is continuing to get better and better at everything they're doing.

And, you know, we've made some good wines in the past, but I think our best wines are still ahead of us, which is pretty accepting, Phil to say. All right, one more question. Dak got franchise tag. Now, he still has a month to work in a contract. But I do think, here's my theory on this. If McCarthy wanted to give him four years, McCarthy would go to Jerry and say,

if it was Patrick Mahomes, you'd be like, get him a four-year deal. Let's lock him up. Is it possible? McCarthy just doesn't know him and is a little reluctant on getting tied to him for his entire Dallas contract? You know, that's possible.

I think there's a component where they may want to date for a little bit, before they get married, if you will, you know, rather than going into an arranged marriage and, you know, seeing if it works. I do like this move for DAC, signing the franchise tag. First of all, you know, these rookie contracts in the NFL, I mean, it's millions of dollars, but it's not forever millions of dollars, but, you know, franchise tag's 30 million, I think, now, you know, so this is not chump change. So for DAC, it's a good, puts him in a, in a situation where he's going to be financially

secure going forward. but it also gives him some negotiating leverage with the, with the Cowboys. But I think for both the quarterback and the franchise, it makes sense to get something done long term. It gives you more salary cap room, gives stability. I really am hopeful both for the franchise. You know, if I was putting on my Cowboys fan hat, I would be hopeful for the franchise that they would get a long-term deal done.

And I really like that. I really, really do. I think he's a very good player. And then all of the intangibles are off the charts, you know, leadership, availability, durability, you know, all of those things. I think the Cowboys would be smart to lock him up, and I hope it happens for him. All right, doubleback winery.

Well, we've got to make this a habit. This is, from now on, this is where I want to do my interviews from. This is beautiful. Yeah, absolutely. Next time I'll send you some wine. We can have some wine together. I did this piece with Jeremy Schapp, and his producer was pretty funny because we drank an entire bottle of wine during the interview.

And the producers are like, yeah, I didn't know if Jeremy was going to make it through the rest of the interview. I'd lower his chair. So, you know, I'd maybe get some, I send some rosé down for joy, and I'll send you some cab, and we can get loose and have a real interview. That's right. Jeremy's a little

bit of a lightweight. I can handle my red wine. Not that like Jeremy. Good seeing you, buddy. Yeah, thank you, Colin. Good to see you, bud. All right, it's called Doubleback. The 2017's award-winning, order it. Here's Joey with a news. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

I will certainly take some rosé. Thank you, Drew. Oh, no, it's fantastic. I mean, he's like a real, I mean, again, this is a real company. Like, he got into it, he's like, it's not about celebrity wine. No, I'm going to get some. I actually love wine. Oh, you do?

Yeah, I'm a whino. A wino. Yeah. Like, I drink, I drink a appropriate amount of wine. Because Goulet is a whiner. Glei likes wine. No, he's just a whiner about life. Oh, he's just a whiner.

Okay. Well, the players were expected to vote this weekend on the latest proposal for MLB for a regular season game season and full prorated pay. However, the plans were delayed after reports surfaced that multiple players tested positive for coronavirus. Commissioner Rob Manfred then sent a letter to the Players Association Director Tony Clark explaining why the 60 game season is the most realistic option with the limited time that they have left. Amford also offered to cancel expanded playoffs and the Universal DH for 2021 if a full season isn't played this year. You know, can I just say this?

People are going to test positive for, we can't make this be the end of it. Yeah, I mean, like, people are going to test positive for the virus. The virus is not gone. So that is part of the plans for all of these leagues. You're going to have. That's why there's so much testing for the leagues. That's why they're testing them so much now, because if they do end up restarting, they need to know if someone has it before they come in. So they're being tested often.

But people are going to test. positive for the virus. Absolutely. Like Clemson had 21 players. By the way, the safest group is 25 years of age, athletic, in good shape, and under. You're going to have people test. Like everybody's going to, oh, people are getting,

football's a contact sport, basketball is a contact sport. You're going to have people test positive. Well, also, quarantine is mostly over in most places. That's right. It's, you are, restaurants are open, malls are open, theme parks are open, and the virus is not gone. So people are still going to test positive for it. so you don't want that.

Nobody wants to get coronavirus, but that is a part of the reality of it. By offering to eliminate the expanded playoffs and the Universal D.H for 2021, Manfred keeps the leverage intact for the MLBPA when the CBA expires after the 2021 season, and all training camps have been temporarily closed after the positive test on Friday, reportedly.

So it goes on. We'll get an answer eventually. So the Warriors took a big step back this year with Kevin Durant's departure and multiple injuries, including to step and. Clay, but Paul Pierce is confident that they're in a great position going forward and can turn things around quickly. I really truly believe they can win a title within the next three years, given their foundation,

you know, even though we didn't see Curry, we didn't see Clay this year, but you got to admit, this is probably the best back court in all of basketball still win healthy. If they rate the right moves within the next three years, they're going to get a nice draft pick coming up that they could probably parlay into something, a good player, a very good player, maybe. You know, I think all the infrastructure is in place for them to really build a championship team

within the next three years. I don't doubt that at all. They have the best back court offensively in my lifetime. This is one of these. I don't understand. They're going to get the number one lottery pick. You would imagine.

There's about three players in the draft. They're going to get one of them, and they're going to probably take that. Well, I think it's safe to say the dynasty is over. Yeah, but the championship. The championship level basketball is not over. That's right.

They are a very smart organization. They're very well-run organization. They're still going to be contenders. But I feel like it's safe to say the dynasty is over. They're not going to guarantee to be in the finals every single year now. The only thing that gives me hesitation, and they're absolutely going to be contenders, about the idea that they are going to be right there in the finals is the West is different now. Yeah.

It's just, it's different than it was before. Like there are different pieces in the West now. You've got the Clippers as a real contender now. Like it's just a different landscape in the West. So yes, they will still be contenders. Yes, they're going to make some big dramatic move. Now, again, if they figure out a way to get Janus or something, forget I said all this. It's just we're right back to where we were before.

Yeah, yeah, right. So we're seeing a lot of dramatic body changes over, over this time period. Yeah, Yokic lost his body. He's a completely different. person. Mark Gassol is getting ready for the NBA restart in Orlando. Oh my God. And he looks completely different. Wow.

He's looking a lot slimmer since the shutdown three months ago. He's listed at 6-11, 255 pounds. He's like, what, 205 there, 2-10? So that's, that's... Wow. This is the before and after. That is incredible. I mean, this is the time to do it if you were going to go through a big...

Look at his face, Joy. I look at his arms. His arms and, I mean, even his like four arms. I am, so the two big guy, I mean, like both Gasol and Yokic were, how can I say this? Meaty. Yeah. They were a little meaty. Meaty, yes.

They looked like distance runners. It's very dramatic. I don't know if, I mean, obviously, I'm sure that they meant to do this. Like, they're speaking with their trainers. And that's without 6,000 calories lost today. and the like being in basketball shape. It's very impressive in three months time. I thought America was gaining weight during the pandemic.

I don't know. I think I don't know. I think everyone's journey is different. Like I thought it was smart for me to like be cooking for myself and I did a lot of cooking. And then I was like, oh, I'm eating too much food. So then I got back on a meal plan. And now I'm, you know, I'm correcting. And like now, you know, people are able to get outside a little bit more and gyms are opening and things like that.

Can you do a daily body change segment? Can we get it sponsored by somebody? And just keep checking out these before and after pictures. It's really dramatic. Like Gardner Minshu looks completely different. He's totally jacked up. Yeah. I mean, that's what I said.

Like self-starters, people are very self-discipline are going to have an edge. Good stuff, Joy Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. Matt Mosley, Dallas News, one of the great newspapers left in America. He's incredibly well connected on the Dallas Cowboys. Dax signed a franchise tender.

He's got about a month now to sign a contract. I still keep saying, prove it to me. You can't keep telling me he's going to get a deal. You've got to show it to me. What is that? Don't tell me. Don't show me how this is. Show me the baby.

What's that saying? I don't care how it's made. Just show me the baby. Is that? I don't worry about the labor. Show me the baby. I've never heard that one. Is that a thing?

It's easy for guys to say that. I don't care about the labor. Show me the baby. Yeah. So Matt Mosley joins us next. sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

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12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. What's up guys? This is Cleverton Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, the Clifford Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me. He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.

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place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Matt Mosley Cowboy Insider joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network. Let's start with this. All right, Dax signs that, you know, franchise tender. What does it mean? Let's just start with a simple question.

What does it mean big picture? Okay, he's going to be at camp. It means he can do Zoom calls with Mike McCarthy. He can finally, boy, Zoom holdout is not much of a thing, is it? It's not a big threat. So it ends that, and he can start. going over the offense and when they are ready to get together, he can hit the ground running a little bit. So that's really what it means is that there is going to be no holdout story and we

won't be able to pursue that come July 15th or late July whenever they start getting together again. Okay, so Jerry Jones, to me, feels pro-DAC. That doesn't mean Mike McCarthy is. I mentioned this when he got hired the first two days he didn't call him. Is there maybe a little behind the scenes tug-a-war on DAC between owner and new co? I don't think so. I think Mike McCarthy can't come in yet. I mean, he has a lot of ground to stand on. Jerry loves him right now, but you don't want to get off on the wrong foot that way. And so he'll choose another battle. It won't be the quarterback. Stephen and Jerry very, very close to this quarterback. This is not a, oh, let's have a prove it year kind of thing. Mike McCarthy has been told, I believe, this is your quarterback. You know, there's no, nobody's walking through that door. Andy Dalton, not going to draft anybody. This is the quarterback you have to work with. And now that he's going to sign this, they can start that process together. Is he in love with him? Well, no, because he doesn't really know him that. I mean, he doesn't have that great understanding. Have they worked together? Does he,

does he have the same passion or respect that Jerry and Stephen do? No, we're not there yet. But that could happen. It could certainly happen. And Mike knows how important this is. You saw what happened. Aaron Rogers, that relationship grew stale at some point at the end. he needs to have this work with Dak. And as soon as this thing is signed, I think they'll be getting together, Zoom, or social distancing or whatever, and they will start building that relationship. Do you think it was fair? I said earlier, I went back to Kirk Cousins today, and I went back and looked at his deal,

and I said, you know, Kirk's a little bit like Dak where I like him. I don't love him, and that's a lot of money. Are you think they're comparable players? Well, they are in numbers, not the way people, not the way their teammates react to them. You saw his receivers turn on him at one point with the Vikings. They sort of came back around. That would never happen with DAC. I would just say his relationship with the players, management, everything.

Now he's got better players around him. But they are different human beings. Are there numbers similar, somewhat similar? Do they have a bunch of playoff wins? No. But the way people respond to them, I feel like as differently. It's different. And I don't think you would ever see Amari Cooper.

I don't think you would see any of these wide receivers, CD showing up. They would never question him publicly. That is how much command he has. And that's why hold out, no hold out, no Zoom classes or whatever. Dak continues to have full command of this team. You know, Zeke gets a lot of attention, all that. It's Dak who they all look up to and look to. And so I think they're different in that respect.

If you were to look at the numbers, I think you certainly have a point. Okay, let's go to the Jamal Adams story. You know, I, you know, when it comes to deals, the reason San Francisco and New England made a deal for Garoppel is because Bill trusted the Shanahan family. I mean, a lot of times it's relationships. A, do you buy the Jamal Adams Cowboy stories? And do you think Dallas would do a deal with the Jets? Jets' ownership has been kind of quirky through the years. They like him.

I mean, I really do think they love him. And I always look, I always try to get all my stories from when Jamal Adams is like in a Hummer, a Humvee vehicle. and somebody shouts at him. Those are the stories I like. I think they have a great basis. I think we can jump all over those. No, here's the thing. It's going to take first, third, you know, throw in gallop.

It's going to take so much. They don't respect the position enough. They love that player. Would they do it for a first rounder? You bet they've already offered that. They offered that, you know, at the deadline. It's not going to happen because even after Darren Woodson, name me somebody they've ever gone after.

name me a first round pick. It's Roy Williams. That's it. That's the only first round pick. I think you go all the way back to 2002. So I do think they love the player. They just don't have the respect for the position that they do at other positions. Outside linebacker, quarterback, wide receiver, running back.

Obviously, they put all their money in those places. So other teams, I think, would be more in the running than the Cowboys, because the Cowboys are not going to get up enough. And I think you're being very nice to call the Jets quirky. That's what people say about me when they don't like me. He's kind of quirky. Yeah, well, the Jets ownership is all over the map. Finally, Dallas has the best facility in the league.

What is the latest on when guys are reporting in Dallas? Oh, they're already back to work here in Texas, Kyle. No, some of them are coming back. They've let the coaching staff and all of that. I mean, I do think in Texas, you know, they will try to be. But the NFL's doing a pretty nice job of trying to keep everybody on an equal playing field. I'll just say, Jerry is going to push the envelope. Jerry is one of going to get fans in there.

And Jerry wants the conversation to change because right now Jerry's been called out for not making a statement after George Floyd's killing. And he hasn't said anything. So he needs to flip the page. He actually needs to come out and say something. There's absolutely no reason. The guy's not racist. I've known him forever.

So I don't know why he's been quiet. But what Jerry will do is be on the forefront. How can we maximize? How can we sell the most merchandise? How can we get the most people? If he has to, he'll bring everybody and surround the stadium with people. Will that be healthy in a pandemic? Absolutely not.

But he'll put them outside the statue out there, that I.M. Pay or whoever, I don't think it was I am, whoever. If somebody put a nice statue out there, he'll bring them all in. He'll do whatever he can to make up for what is going to be enormous loss. But they'll be on the forefront. Don't mark my words. If Jerry can get half the fans in there, he'll be the first one racing them through there. All right. Matt Mosley, happy Father's Day, belated Father's Day yesterday for you and your fan. Thank you. Good seeing you, buddy. Yeah, you too. By the way, in terms of Jamal Adams, you know, it was funny. So last week he had a list

of teams he wanted to play for. They were all winning teams. But it's funny. I've said this about people that have affairs. People have affairs. And then you're like, well, didn't your wife or your husband provide what you were looking for, 90% of it. If there's three things that you need, here's the things that work for Jamal Adams. Because you can't be paying your quarterback $35 million and then pay your safety. You're not going to work in Seattle.

You're not going to work in Kansas City here pretty quick. He's not going to work, you know, like Green Bay. So you'd need to have a rookie quarterback or a young quarterback you're not paying. You'd need to have the right defensive fit. Do you have a defensive coordinator that likes hyper-aggressive players? and you'd have to have a defense that needs a verbal leader. Oh, that's the Jets.

The Jets aren't paying Sam Donald anything. Greg Williams, to a fault, is super aggressive, and Jamal Adams is his perfect safety. And they don't really have a leader on defense. They've got talent. C.J. Mosley's talented, but he was hurt all last year. The best fits New York. It's a big city for a star player that's not paying a quarterback for two years.

Greg Williams loves him and uses. him and they don't have a leader defensively. And Levy and Bell's not, he's a good player, but it's not what you say, a leader. So who's their defensive leader? They don't only have one. They don't have a Ray Lewis. They don't have a talker. They don't have like a gravitational center

within their organization. So everybody's talking about where Jamal Adams fits. He fits the Jets. This is where he fits. I don't think it's that complicated. Whether you're working from home or working on your fitness, you want to hear your music, not your roommates. Raycon's wireless earbuds are the way to go get 15%

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So that was fast. You know what? We're getting through this thing. Cross your fingers. MLS starts July 8th. My prediction on baseball, I should get out of that space. It'll be mid to late July, NBA starts.

July 30th. We're getting there, folks. Hour 3 next. We're getting there. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHard Radio app. You know, it's funny, we watch the MJ documentary, and one of the things we're all struck by,

it wasn't just basketball. It was Michael Jordan's ability to be mature, to elevate teammates, to work with coaches, to play through sickness, to play through injuries. Scotty Pippen could be high maintenance. Dennis Rodman could be beyond difficult. It was never easy for the Chicago Bulls. You just think of it's the best basketball team I've ever seen. And what I was struck with watching the Michael Jordan documentary was, damn.

It was just, I mean, Michael was dealing with coaches in a broken leg, and then it was Jerry Krause, and then it was Scotty Pippen didn't get the rehab, and Rodman 98. It was a circus, and that's for the best basketball player in the world. And the best team. It was hard. It was hard. You forget how hard it was for New England. How many close, narrow wins in the Super Bowl?

I mean, the Seattle win, the Atlanta win. All their Super Bowl wins are close. All their Super Bowl wins are losses are close. Like, this was the greatest dynasty ever twice, and it was incredibly difficult. And what got the Bulls and the Patriots through it? one guy with each, MJ and Brady. And it wasn't just basketball and football. It was sort of this willfulness and this drive and this alpha and this leadership.

You can't replace that stuff. New England, in 30 plus years before Tom Brady had eight double-digit winning seasons. They were a bad franchise. They were a bad franchise. The Chicago Bulls before Michael Jordan in a decade made the playoffs, just made them three times. Post-Michael Jordan, 20 years. 22 years, five playoffs. They're not dysfunctional.

It's what they always were. I remember growing up as a high school or in college. The Bulls were dysfunctional. Before Michael Jordan and they were dysfunctional. The two years he left by the second year they were dysfunctional. And then he left him, go to the Wizards. They've been dysfunctional since. It's a dysfunctional franchise.

And one super alpha male superstar made us think they're a dynasty and made us think they have this veneer, this sophistication. Chicago's always been sort of a dynasty. dysfunctional mess. The whole time of my life. New England was irrelevant. Bad uniforms. And they had good quarterbacks.

Steve Grogan, Bledsoe. They were irrelevant. Just in the northeast, the Steelers were more important. The Ravens were better runoff. The Eagles, the New York Giants, just in the Northeast. Washington for years

was much more relevant with Joe Gibbs. Washington, the Steeler, just in the Northeast. New England was irrelevant. They almost moved to Connecticut. it. I'm not joking. Goulet's from there. There was a time they were going to move to Hartford. So the idea that you could just replace Jordan and replace Brady, no. I've said it before. We're going to watch eight to 12 quarters of Jared Stidiman go, not interesting.

Merchandising will go down, ratings will go down, they won't be on national TV. The Hail Mary is to get Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields, and I think it's possible. But the idea that you just replace this stuff doesn't happen. Joy with the News. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. By the way, the bolts have had 11 coaches since Phil Jackson. 11. That's my whole life.

That's what they were. I mean, listen, I have spent the last two decades of my life suffering because of Tom Brady as a Dolphins fan. And I should be thrilled that he's no longer in New England and then the division. And I'm looking forward to seeing him in Tampa Bay. But I also just don't, I have so much, too much respect for him to assume that this is just some plug and play situation, regardless of whether he's not the same guy he was 10 years ago. I said this about Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll's got a fine reputation. He had a losing record in the NFL and was fired twice before Russell Wilson. And now we're like pizza genius. No, pizza football coach who's better than average. But the player is the one that takes the coach to the new level. Right. I mean, culture is very important.

I believe in culture. But that culture is only validated when your best players not only buy into the culture, but are all-time greats. Okay. What is Popovich post-Tim Duncan's prime? And by the way, he's considered the smartest NBA coach. What's he done? It doesn't mean he's not a great coach. That's right.

Doesn't mean he's not a Hall-Famer, but the player takes the coach to another level. Kauai Leonard and Popovich didn't get along. He didn't buy into his system. It's a new world now. You got to, as long as Belichick is willing to change and embrace certain things, you're not going to get another Tom. You're not going to get a guy that's that great, that committed, and that willing to embrace everything you sell to the locker room.

And he was the best player. So when the best player believes that strongly, and it's very easy for other players to buy into it. So Josh Allen said recently that he wants to be able to throw the deep ball and not become what he called Captain Checkdown this season. Bill's coach, Sean McDermott says he understands Allen's perspective, but he also wants to learn that him to learn that balance is important. It comes from a variety of areas really, and number one is experience.

You know, continuity plays a part in that where he knows who to trust, when to trust them based on the defensive look. You've got to play the game and get more and more experience and see the value of taking what the defense gives you. And if they're going to give you the checkdown, and they're going to take away everything deep, and the checkdown is there you take it. If they're taking away the shallow stuff,

when we can get over the top, then we'll go there. And so I think you've got to be flexible and adaptable, as I said before. And Josh has to be it as well. Well, Josh's problem is that he's got a heater. He's got a huge arm. And to tell a guy with a huge arm, sometime like Joe Namath big arm, Terry Bradshaw big arm, Troy Aitman, big arm. They want to throw the ball deep, right?

Right. Well, and according to pro football focus, he actually utilized checkdown passes the least of any starting quarterback. And so he's already complaining. two years. So he's already like, I don't want to do that. But, you know, you can pick a team apart if you become effective at the Checkdown Pass. Yeah. The Patriots, as we were just spoken about, utilized that a lot.

It is harder when you have maybe the best arm in the league. Allen's in the top three. He has got a complete hose. No, you say it all the time. If you have a great voice, you want to sing. And he's got a huge arm. Matt Ryan probably doesn't have these same. He didn't feel like he's got to air it out deep. Well, by the way, Stefan Digg is a great deep threat, so there you go. You're going to get plenty of shots. But if you can add balance to it, it's going to keep defenses on us.

So Joe Judge had a front row seat to watch Tom Brady during the eight years. He was with the Patriots, and he explained what he hopes to pass on to Daniel Jones from his time with Brady. He said his preparation was phenomenal, but his accountability is what really separated him from a lot of players. His stature in the league was such that he could have just taken that role of superstar, but he always came in every day. but is nose to the grindstone and just work tirelessly. And I think any player who wants to be great can take that same thing. Joe Judge, he's got the football cliches.

All of them. I mean, nails. There's a book he took from Belichick. It's in his drawer. He just pulls it out. Nose to the grindstone. He's right, though. Yeah. He's talking about this earlier with Joe Burrow.

We were just talking about it with Tom Brady when you are the best player in the locker room. And the hardest working. And the hardest working. It makes it very easy for everyone else to say, well, I can't. take it easy today and I can't what excuse do I have and if I want a big contract I've got to work as hard as Tom Brady because he's the best player and the leader on the team. So obviously you know everyone has different everyone has different ways to lead and communicate but I do think that especially when it comes to the quarterback position there is one kind of way one intangible or

style that that bleeds through to every great an all-time great which is tireless work you Drew Breeze. We're seeing this with Lamar Jackson. I think Jack Prescott has a lot of this. When you're just the hardest worker, you set the tone for the rest of the team. Totally committed. You can't just rely on your talent.

And I think Daniel Jones is going to buy into that. So finally, the NFL outlined some protocols for players to be able to return to team facilities. One guideline states that each team has to separate all those returning their building into tiers. So tier one consists of players and coaches, doctors and trainers that have direct contact with the players. Tier 2 would be non-playing personnel who have to maintain physical distance from those in Tier 1, and Tier 3 includes those who perform essential facility, stadium, or event services, but do not require close contact with anyone in Tier 1. So reportedly, there's heated discussions that have already occurred within the teams

regarding the proper placement of each employee to the appropriate tier, and the NFL Players Association said there's been no agreement with the league on any of these protocols bringing players back in a team facility. So they're still trying to figure out how to properly bring everyone back. Again, the NFL lucked out in the spacing and timing of all of this, that they do have a little bit of more time to wait and see how the virus continues to trend before they start bringing everyone back. But, you know, camps are going to be starting within a month or so.

And, you know, these discussions have to be had. Because it's not as simple as bringing the players and the coaches back. You have equipment managers. And people are going to get this. We have a vaccine. People are going to get this thing. Right. But there are a lot of people who have to be in the facility in order to make the camp go. Like there's a lot of essential things that have to go on.

People have to paint the field. You replace the gatorade. There's a lot that goes on. So they still have some things to work out. Good stuff. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News.

He was the first Super Bowl in Seahawk history. Cliff Averill came over of Detroit. And then Seattle went and grabbed him. He was a crucial part of the Super Bowl win. 10 NFL seasons of pro-Boulder in 2016, now a broadcaster. Love having him on, haven't talked in a while. Cliff Averill, joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So I want to ask you about the franchise tag thing.

And I've said this like $31 million a lot. But if my company came to me and said, we're going to give you a lot of money for one year, my first question would be, well, why don't you want to give me a lot of years? You don't love me? I'm not in your long-term plans. So you tell me as an athlete how the franchise tag lands as an NFL player. What you just said is correct, though. Yes, a lot of people look at the 31 that he's going to make.

I've been franchised. A lot of times you look at the number that that guy is going to make that year. But in the NFL, what you want is security. And the only way you get security is by a long-term deal because usually in that long-term deal, the first two, maybe three years are guaranteed. so you know you're going to be with this organization, no matter how I play, no matter if I get hurt, no matter if I get injured or anything like that,

I know I will be with this organization. And that's all guys want, right? That's all guys need in this league. So when a quarterback in particular, like Dak, goes and gets a franchise, of course he's not happy because now he's kind of straddling the fence. Do you guys want me as a franchise quarterback moving forward? Do you guys want me around moving forward?

So these are questions that you don't necessarily want quarterbacks in particular. other positions you can kind of get away with it like yeah we like you but we want to see what you can do again but from a quarterback position i think it's extremely hard for him to go into this season and play lights out and knowing that hey i don't know if i'm going to be here with this organization next year so i think they got to figure out a way to get dachshine long term you know we were just talking about leadership and that as good as bellichick pete carroll andy reed phil jackson the dynasty's always led by the player okay it's not led by the coach you know Now, a good coach can extend the dynasty.

But you were in Seattle when it was more of a defense running game brand than a Russell Wilson brand. So let's go back to that time. What did you see beyond football, Cliff, that you thought, okay, this cat's different. Like he is an all-time talent. Oh, man. I mean, the first and foremost is the mindset. I mean, this guy, everybody knows this game. the NFC, the second Super Bowl in 2014 or 15, the NFC championship game against the Green Bay Packers.

Russell Wilson goes out there and he throws, I believe, four, maybe even five interceptions, whatever it was, it was a lot of interceptions. And he comes to the sideline and looks every player on defense in the eyes like, hey, we got this. We're only down 16 points. And in a grand scheme thing, 16 points is not a lot for us to come back from. But it's the fact that we were down because of all these interceptions. but his mindset going into it is like, hey, look, this is nothing for us to come back from. Hey, believe in me.

Believe in me. And when I tell you, this man goes out here, and we all know how it plays out, we end up winning the game. But he goes out there and he actually puts on for those last four minutes and comes back and is able to pull it off. And that's when I noticed from him in particular that like your mindset plays a big role in how success, how much success you will have. And I'm not surprised at all the success that he's having because of the mindset that he has. He always believes it's in every game and all he needs is an opportunity and he goes out there and he executes. You know, it's interesting with Jamal Adams situation is that there is something to be said for if you take care of your best players, it plays well in the locker room. And if the Jets let Jamal Adams go for draft picks, if I'm C.J. Mosley, if I'm Sam Darnold, I'm thinking, the hell do I want draft picks for?

I want players. You know, in fact. I want to play now. Right. I mean, so take me into your career. Were you ever at a place where an organization let a player go? And how did it play amongst the dudes in the room? Well, I would say back in Detroit, you know, getting franchised and different things like that.

I know as a young player, I'm always looking to see how the organization takes care of, you know, the Calvin Johnson's, the Indomacons, the Indomacons, Suez, the superstars of the team, right? The franchise player, what are you going to do with those guys? and you're paying attention because if I never get to say this franchise level, that that means you guys will let me go too. Like if you can let your franchise player go, you'll let anybody go. And players are definitely paying attention to that. So, you know,

then it becomes one of those situations like where I know they don't take care of their own grown, their own draft picks and whatnot, and they're not thinking about winning right now. I think that is the biggest thing for a lot of these older players. As a veteran player, you don't have time to rebuild. You don't have time to let, you know, a Jamal Adams leave and say we're going to get some draft picks. I don't know if I'm going to be on the team next year.

So it doesn't matter to me, right? So I think that's more so the message that you don't want to give is, are we giving in on the season already? And, okay, what does our future look like without him? So no OTAs. Give me some personal experience on this. So Joey and I have talked about this. I think it hurts a Joe Burrell.

I think it helps. I hurt a young quarterback. It hurts a young offensive lineman. Give me some personal experience. No OTAs. We could have a shorter, abridged. training camp. How is it going to look? It's tough. No OTAs is going to hurt the younger players more so than anything. I've been a part of the lockout, right? 2011, we had a lockout.

You know, that summer, you're just training with, hopefully you're training with some veteran players because they're going to teach you the way. But a lot of these guys are back at home, you know, just thinking they know what it takes to be an NFL player. And that's where they drop the ball out because you don't know how to protect, how to prepare for a fall camp or anything like that. So, you know, these guys, you got to be careful. They're going to get injured. You know, yes, they're doing a lot of Zoom calls in their meeting, but guess what? Those X and those, they move when they snap the ball. So how do I react to that? And not getting the reps, I think is going to be huge. So the younger players is going to affect them the most. And I think

that's why a lot of, you know, teams in the draft, I know, in particular to Seahawks, they draft the guys that they think can come in and play now because there is no development stage, right? There's no OTAs. There's no camp at the end of OTAs. or any of that stuff to see where you're at. Now you're just going out there blind. And hopefully some of these young men are in shape and don't tweak anything. That's going to be another issue as well

that we've seen in 2011 that guys were getting injured and hurt because they weren't necessarily in football shape. And there's definitely a difference in the two of train for camp or actually going and leaning on that 300-pound man every day. There's a muscle memory factor there as well. So hopefully these guys can figure it out and they ease these guys into it during the fall. You know, it's interesting.

you went from the Lions, very good player to the Lions, pro-Bowler, and then you go to the Seattle Seahawks. So Gronk has a new team, and Emmanuel Sanders is now a saint. And by the way, Miami picked up a lot of free agents. So it's very, very weird. The idea that I could be a member at Fox, and tomorrow I work for CBS, and that I'm just supposed to instantly feel it.

When you look at these free agent moves, and some are, like Miami really went Kyle Van Nuoy, and then Emmanuel Sanders to the Saints. They're expected day one to matter. When you went from the Lions to the Seahawks, beyond just the playbook, how long is it before you feel like I'm a Seahawk? Like emotionally to leave from one company, you thought you were going to play in Detroit forever. They draft you, you're their guy.

I mean, this is the Ken Griffey with the Mariners. Then you're on a different team. How long emotionally did it take for you to be like, okay, you drove to work, and you love Seattle, and you love your teammates, and you love the playbook, and you loved everything? It takes a while, man. It takes probably, honestly, not until the regular season rolls out and you actually make that big play and showing the guys that, hey, I deserve to be here, right? Because no matter where you're at, no matter if you're a franchise player, no matter if you're, you know, a Hall of Fame player,

you want to come into that organization the following year and show them that you deserve to be here. And then you walk into a door like the Seahawks where they had a really, really good defense. So trying to figure out how you fit into all of this as well plays a role. So for me, it wasn't until week on my first game. I actually missed the very first game against the Panthers, but playing against San Francisco, I got a sax foble. And then it felt like, oh, now I fit in. Now I know these guys can accept me.

Because, again, players in the locker, they don't care what you did last year. They don't care what you did the years before. What can you do this year? And I think that it takes some time to prove yourself to those guys that you still got a lot in the tank. By the way, Brett Farv was talking about Colin Kaepernick yesterday, and he's been inactive for three years or something.

so, but there's talent there. And the NFL, by the way, Kaepernick looks and plays like a lot of quarterbacks now. He's big. He can move. He's mobile. He can move the pocket. Everybody wants to move the pocket now. Every coach wants to move the pocket. That's what he can do. So you played against him, I would say, a half dozen times, right? What was your experience playing against him? Where was he good? Where did you feel you could take advantage of him? Well, the hardest thing for any pass rusher is going against mobile quarterbacks, right? The Colin Kaepernick, the Russell Wilson's, Lamar Jackson, all these guys, they're hard because you don't know where they'll be at in the pocket. It's easy to, no, not against Tom,

but it's easy to go against somebody like Tom because you know he'll be in the pocket. Now, of course, you got to bring him down and whatnot, but the mobile quarterback. So that's the biggest thing with Cap is he has wheels. And you see this long stride that he has? Like, it's extremely hard to catch up with him. He will leave DBs behind. So those types of movements and different things that he brings to the field is a plus. Now, you know, he'll make some, them off-brand throws from time to time when you're playing against him. You know, you add a little bit of pressure and he might, you know, throw the ball the wrong way or to the wrong, the wrong person or whatnot.

But that's any quarterback that any quarterback that you get pressure, they're going to make those type of decisions. So with cap, though, it's those legs, man. And you're seeing more of it, right? You're seeing the more of the Russell Wilson, the Lamar Jackson's, the Mahones. That's what the league has turned into. So, of course, now there's more of a need to have cap in the league. because he fits a lot of the mold that these OCs want.

By the way, Cliff, where are you living now these days? I'm in Seattle. Still doing the thing in Seattle. Good for you. My hometown's great to see you again. You look good. You look healthy, and I'm happy for you. Thanks, man. Thank you. It's always a pleasure to being on the show.

I appreciate you guys. All right. Cliff Averill, former Seattle Seahawk, who had a neck injury, by the way, at the end of the 20, what year was that? 2018 or 2017 season, and he wrapped it up from there and went into broadcastings. He's done a very, very nice job. Coming up next, we play a little to be or not to be, our NFL game. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.

You've heard of To be or not to be? That's Shakespearean. To be or not to be. We have, best for last, we have notable NFL moments and decisions. and so we're going to be to be to be. Do we have Shakespearean music behind it, Goulet? What do you? Okay, NFL music.

And listen, I can't. Limitations. To be or not to be? Well, Jamal Adams get traded to be or not to be. I'm going to go not to be because I think Joe Douglas wants to sign him. And I think the biggest roadblock here is they haven't had an OTA. So Douglas doesn't know if his draft picks can play. If they can, and they've solved left tackle,

corner and wide receiver, then you pay Jamal Adams. They just don't know. I think he'd like to put it off, get to a camp, see the rookies provide some illustration on our draft picks can play. The Jets don't pay anybody. They pay Lavian Bell. They're not going to pay, we know this. They're going to pay them this year.

Next year, Lavian Bell is a $3 million cap hit. They'll get rid of him. I wouldn't, but I think they think he's too expensive. Well, who do they pay? They pay C.J. Mosley. That is it. So they have a slot receiver. Who's the guy from Washington?

Didn't they pay a little bit of money to? James and Crowder, they pay a little bit of money to. But if you look at the teams around the league that are paying lots of players, the Jets aren't, they'll keep him. Will the Patriots trade Joe Tuny to be or not to be? To be, they will trade him. Oh my God. Okay, it's happening. Okay, this is my theory.

They're accumulating draft picks. They're going to be six and ten. They're going to accumulate first round draft picks and second round picks, move up and get him. They've been shopping him. All you need to know is they've been shopping him. What does that tell you? Offensive line play in this league has regressed over the last five years with the new CBA. Philadelphia needs a guard.

Tunis second team all pro. He'll get shopped. A team will sign Cam Newton to be or not to be. To be. He's posting. Oh my God. Okay. It's happening.

So he's doing the workout videos. He's going to get somebody is going to get hurt this year. The other thing to remember about it without OTAs, the probably the most predictable thing, we're going to have this year in the NFL is COVID and injuries. What does that mean? Most teams don't carry three quarterbacks. I'll make a prediction by the third week of the NFL season, he will either get two workouts or will seriously be considered by September 20th.

COVID's going to not, there's going to be a quarterback's going to get COVID. I guarantee you that you're out for a week or two and somebody's going to get hurt because we're not practicing as much. A team will sign Colin Kaepernick to be or not to be. I'd say to be because that's the momentum. Oh my God. Okay. I am so done with those drops. I think it's what players want. I think it's what the league wants. And I also think this has been this concern for the last two or three years with Trump. Trump's going to be gone by November. He just is. He's downwind the polls.

People aren't showing up to his rallies. You don't have to worry about Trump anymore. He's lost power. The NFL now has said we're in camp with the players. So I think that's the momentum. I see him as a backup. I don't see him as a starter. but I think if he wants to, depending on the contract, he will be. It depends on the team and the contract. 2O will start week one to be or not to be. Not to be. That's not going to happen.

Yeah, so here's the reality. Fitzpatrick was 5 and 4 down the stretch. So the coaching staff likes Ryan Fitzpatrick. So the coaching staff is, he rewarded the coaching staff down that stretch. So I do believe there are conversations in the building. Like they kind of owe Ryan Fitzpatrick one. he got the ball rolling so they're going to give him a start or two

but I think by week three or four you're going to be trapped in Miami saying come on we see the video we saw exhibition season let's go Justin Herbert starts week one to be or not to be that's the easiest one not to be not going to happen

Tyrod Taylor has a winning NFL record as a starter this is the easy one I've said this since Cam Got to the Super Bowl, since that moment forward, Tyrod Taylor's got a better record, and that's with two rebuilding teams. Tyroo Taylor is exactly what they want for at least eight to ten weeks to give the Justin Herbert. Pro, you can win with him.

He's the opposite of Philip Rivers. Makes no mistakes. So that's an easy one. Tyrod's going to start. If he's not starting, he's starting till Thanksgiving. That's my guarantee. Tyrod starts to Thanksgiving. Nick Foles, starting quarterback for the Bears, to be or not to be.

To be. Listen, Trubisky went down last year in completion percentage, passer rating, wins, less yards, and less passing touchdowns. And I think, to be honest with you, Nick's just a better thrower of the football. You can't get any more refined than that. He is a pocket quarterback, fairly limited athletically, but he's a really good thrower of the football. And he's kind of an aggressive letter rip guy, which is more Matt Nagy style. Trubisky can be kind of a sometimes kind of a hold-it-back guy. I didn't trust his arm.

Foles loves his arm, and he is a letter-ripped guy, and that's what Chicago needs. Dak will sign a long-term contract to be or not to be. Not to be. Oh, my God. Yeah, at this point, I keep saying, you guys keep telling me he's going to sign it, and I'm like, show to me. So at this point, it's principal. I'm not even sure I believe it, but I've been on this side so long.

I'm going to stay with this side, which is the closest value that you feel good about is the, the franchise tag at $31 million. That's much closer to his value than the 38. And I still think if McCarthy wanted him, I think Jerry and McCarthy have had discussions. Just give me one year with him. I'm just asking one year. Get your free credit scorecard today, even if you're not a Discover customer.

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