The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Dak Prescott, Myles Garrett, Drew Brees, Derrick Henry

Episode Date: July 16, 2020

Colin explains why Dak Prescott asking for too much hurt him in the end, why he feels the Cowboys offered Dak a fair deal, why he refuses to cancel players like Myles Garrett and Drew Brews, his thoughts on Derrick Henry's new contract, and the NFL position that is underpaid. Guests include Mark Dominik, Mike Fisher, Rob Parker, Joe Vardon, and Jason McIntyre. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dak was going to get $36, $37 million a year for five years. I thought that was, he's a good player. I don't think you pay good players. He's a good player. I don't think you pay good employees great money. I've worked at five different companies. That's not what any company in any business I've ever been involved with does. They want to pay good people, good money, and great people.

the rare great employee, great money. They don't love doing it, but like, you know, you got to do it. So here's, when I look at Dak Prescott, this is on Dak Prescott. He tried to get everything. And I'll give you an example. Tom Brady never really been given the great weapons. Aaron Rogers doesn't get an owner or any great defenses. Russell Wilson gets an outdated offense and bad offensive lines.

even Patrick Mahomes didn't get all the money. You don't get everything. Cowboys offered him 33 to 35 mil for five years. He wanted four. He tried to thread the needle and get everything. You don't get everything. In my business, the two people in media that have gotten the closest to getting everything are Oprah Winfrey and Howard Stern.

and Howard Stern was fired and then eventually had to leave terrestrial radio to go to XM Sirius and build his audience back up and now in his 50s or 60s he gets everything. It wasn't easy. Oprah Winfrey was told you're not good enough, had to fight to build her brand, and eventually to get control and ownership, she had to leave television and go on her own. I know the guy that ran her network for years. My buddy Eric Logan. It was a struggle early to build Oprah's, you know, empire on television, her own network up.

And those are the two that got everything, but they didn't get everything for a long time. They had obstacles, critics, naysayers, one was fired, had to build their audience, had to leave the business they loved. Terrestrial radio for Stern and television for Oprah. They had to leave it until they got everything after 30 years in the business. Think of all the things Dax's gotten. He got an owner that spends money. I mean, look at how the Cowboys offensive line is paid. Good hell, he pays everybody.

He got the biggest brand, a state with no state income tax. He's had a top two to three offensive line every year, a top one or two running back in the league, always better than average weapons. He went into Jason Garrett, an offensive-minded coach as the league was becoming more offensive. He got stability in the franchise. Jones family's been there forever.

Stephen Jerry, Charlotte. Jason Garrett was, you know, almost a member of the family. He got stability. An owner with money, an unbelievable brand, the best offensive line in football. He got the best running back or second best running back in football. He's had better than average weapons. He got an old Jason Witten, an older Des Bryant, but now he's got a young Amari Cooper. He got Randalli C.

Michael Gallup. Now they drafted him another receiver CD Lamb. You don't get everything. And the Cowboys didn't, didn't offer him a poor deal. They offered him 33 to 35 for five years, 100 million guaranteed. They didn't lowball him. That's, to me, a little more that he deserves or has earned. You don't get every.

Michael Jordan's the greatest basketball player in the history of the world. He got a cheap owner and a petty GM. And it took him years to finally get Phil Jackson as a coach. He ran through coaches. LeBron James is probably the first or second best basketball player in the history of the planet. Now he's got a team that I don't think has great ownership or a great front office. Cleveland didn't have a great owner. He's run through some really average coaches.

And when he finally got to Miami where you got Pat Riley and Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosch, The Wayne Wade was older and out of his prime. You know, in the league's got a salary cap. You can't get every player you want. Guy's got to take pay cuts to get there. He got Ray Allen. He was past his prime. He got Shane Batty.

He was past his prime. He got Mike Miller. He was past his prime. He got Yudanus Haslam. He's past his prime. And that's LeBron and Michael Jordan. You don't get everything. The Cowboys made a real offer here.

They just wanted five years. That's how Jerry rolls. The Cowboys like to give long contracts. A lot of players like stability. Tyron Smith's got like a 10-year deal. A lot of players take less. Patrick Mahomes, like, I'll take less money. Give me more stability.

It's like a baseball contract. You don't get those in the NFL, but Jerry's one of the owners that'll give you extra years. But Dak wanted everything. He wanted, I mean, give me a break on this. Jane Slater reported yesterday that Dak came, made a last ditch effort. Dak and the agent made a last ditch last hour effort. What does that tell you? That tells me, Dak made a mistake.

He thought Jerry was going to cave and, let me tell you something. When millionaires take on billionaires, you know who wins. Jerry didn't cave. You can't call Jerry cheap. He pays everybody. He was willing to pay DAC $100 million. You can't say Jerry didn't like him. Jerry likes Dak.

He said it publicly. May not like his agent, but you don't get everything. Aaron Rogers doesn't get an owner or a defense. Look at the Seattle's offense. Russell Wilson doesn't get support offensively. It's almost antagonistic. he's taking pay cuts. He never has great weapons. He had great weapons for about two years. For about two years, he had Randy Moss and Welker, and that unraveled.

I mean, nobody gets everything. Even Mahomes, you know, that defense wasn't very good when he first got to Kansas City. Played good at the end of last year. But they're paying he and Chris Jones. He's not going to get everything. They're not going to be able to re-sign every offensive lineman. They're not going to be able to get every pass rusher on the market. And he's not getting every penny. I mean, this to me, DAC made a mistake. I mean, if you go to DAC's four years in the NFL,

if you line the stats up, he is a good B-to-B-B-plus quarterback. When did he struggle? Year two. Year two is when he didn't get everything. Year two is when Zieg got suspended for six games and the offensive linemen, the star at the moment,

Tyron Smith was out for a couple of games. In the second year, when he didn't get everything, he got some instability at run. running back, instability at left tackle. What happened? He wasn't as good. He couldn't carry the team. And there's only about seven or eight guys that can carry the team. So I don't blame Dak Prescott. I mean, I also don't blame Dak Prescott for thinking he's a little better than he is. I think he's a B to a B plus quarterback. He probably thinks he's an A, but I'm not going to

blame him for that because I think I'm better than my bosses do. Everybody thinks they're better. You think you're a better husband. Your wife thinks he's a better wife. We all think we're a little better than we are. Every actor thinks they're deserving to be Tom Hanks or Denzel, you know, okay? So I'm not going to blame Dak for that. He's young. He thinks he's a little better maybe than he is, but that's okay. We all do, and he's young. And by the way, I like that confidence. He's a gamer. I like him. But he's trying to get, man, you go look at the stars in America. I mean, Obama becomes president. He can't get anything through Mitch McConnell. He got, he got everything either. I got what I want.

And then halfway through it's like, I can't, I give up. I can't get anything fast. Nobody gets everything. Even the NFL. Oh, they get everything they want. It's called COVID. OTA is gone. Preseason probably out. You don't get

everything. There's always an obstacle. There's always this. There's always that. I mean, if you really, and I'm not saying Dax not grateful, but good God, he inherited Jerry. No state tax. The biggest brand. Best offensive line, best running back, stability, an offensive coach. Good God, he's had Des and he's had Witten and he had Randall Cobb,

but he had Cole Beasley, a good slot receiver. And now he's got this emerging star in Michael Gallup, and then he has Amari Cooper. I mean, a lot of people were surprised. They paid for Amari Cooper. People were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's paying a lot for Amari Cooper. Jerry paid it. And he had $100 million on the table here. But he wanted five years and Dak wanted four.

Come on, man, you're trying to thread the needle. Well, Dax won a lot of games and didn't get paid a lot. This is not Kurt Cousins in Washington. He got a lousy offer from Washington, a poorly run franchise, by the way. Washington's general manager didn't even know the name of Kirk Cousins. He called him Kurt instead of Kirk. They butchered his, the GM didn't even respect his name. And wasn't the same deal.

They didn't make him this kind of offer. They didn't give him this kind of respect. Dax been respected. He's gotten great support all the way down the line. And finally, here comes the day. And according to Jane Slater, he came rushing back in the end. And they're like, man, we don't have time to get this thing done. This is on back. This is on deck. Nobody gets everything. Michael Jordan didn't. Howard Stern didn't. Oprah didn't. LeBron doesn't. You don't get everything.

taking four instead of five made a ton of sense. Instead of worrying about, hey, I want to get back into the market sooner. How about just do a Mahomes and say, yeah, I'm going to take a little less, but I just, I like the stability. I mean, DAC is a fourth round quarterback. I mean, 100 million guaranteed and the biggest brand, you know how many commercials DAC's going to get? I mean, if this thing, if Mike McCarthy and DAC work,

and there's likelihood they may work. It may click. Dak's going to make so much money. You're going to be on so many billboards and so many vitamin waters and so many nutrient drinks and he'll be on face of a shoe company. And I just think he, I think this is on DAC. Nobody gets everything. Everybody's got a cave to a billionaire occasionally.

Everybody. Howard, MJ. I mean, everybody. LeBron, everybody's cave. even a little. I mean, I thought Andrew Luck. I'm like, oh, this is going to be great. He could never get the right GM, didn't get the right coach. I mean, Brady. Oh, he got Belichick's. Never had the weapons Peyton Manning had. Brett Farve was great. He got a lot of stuff. He never had great weapons. He never had an owner. To me, this is on, this is, this is on DAC and his agent.

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Doesn't make him one of the top three or four highest paid running backs in the NFL. And people be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. one of the things I see the media do a lot is recency bias. That whatever's happened in the last 12 months, that's everything. That's the definitive truth. I like Derek Henry, and I think he really aligns with what Tennessee is trying to do. It's a physical football team. That's Mike Rabel's DNA, and I think Derek Henry fits them, and I'm glad he's there.

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passing league. They're better players. They are, and they're better prospects, and they should be paid higher, and they all are. Remember, what you get paid, there is a timing aspect here. Right now, David Johnson makes more money. Levian Bell makes more money. Lavian Bell's probably going to spend his last year with the Jets, whereas Derek Henry is going to be the Titans for several years. But Derek Henry's had a great last 19 games.

That's a little more than a season. In the 19 games, he's been a bull. He's averaged 112 yards a game. And with Ryan Tannihill, I like the fact you have a real big time running back. It's nice. think Tannenhill is a game changer. But, well, Colney was very good in the playoffs. Those games are not on the schedule.

You have no idea if you're getting into the playoffs. Lamar Jackson's 0-2 in the playoffs. But this time, next year, he'll have a brand new contract if he's 0-and-3 in the playoffs. I'm paying my guys. Can they win the division? On the 16 games, the NFL gives me, is my guy instrumental in winning my division

and getting to the playoffs? and as an owner, getting me a home game in the playoffs. Because I can pay for a lot of contracts with that extra home game where I make $15 million, $20 million a home game. On average, that's what the red Dallas makes way more than that, but you make $10, $12, $15 million, $20 million a home game. You get me a home game. But those aren't guaranteed on the schedule.

I'm not paying you for a great playoff run of two games. I can't pay you for that. That's not on the schedule. Patrick Mahomes was going to get money regardless if he won that Super Bowl or didn't. Lamar Jackson's going to get that money. I mean, Russell Wilson was won and done out of the playoffs this year. He wasn't getting paid for that Super Bowl. He was getting paid because he carries a stagnant Jurassic offense,

and he's always, always a winning quarterback. They're always in the hunt for the division title. Derek Henry's a really good fit in Tennessee. But this guy didn't start for two years. Split time is third year, and it's had a great last 19 games. I'm not breaking the bank, and I think there's risk to this because he carries the ball a lot and takes a real pounding. But he is uniquely built.

I've never quite seen a running back like this. But it is running back. But when you look at the money, there are going to be a lot of running backs making more than this in the next two or three years. I'm okay with that. He is not Zeke, McCaffrey, or Saquan Barclay as a prospect, as a pass catcher. And to me, Zeke does everything well. Everything well.

Sequin Barclay, better than I thought, does everything well. McCaffrey may not be a world-class blocker, but he's the best past catching running back. Perhaps I've ever seen. Derek Henry, not a threat in that category. And that category increasingly matters. Here's veteran newsman John Goulet. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

So we had some breaking news about a half hour ago, Colin. Zion Williamson has left the bubble in Orlando to attend to an urgent fan. medical matter. He intends to rejoin the team for the NBA restart at a later date. Pelicans executive vice president of basketball operations, David Griffin said, we fully support Zion's decision to leave the NBA campus to be with his family. Out of respect for the Williamson family, we will have no further comment at this time. They play. It does sound serious. Obviously, we hope everything is okay. They play literally the first game back. They are the first game. It is two weeks from today against the Jazz.

So there's still plenty of time for him to come back for whatever is happening. He will have to quarantine again for four days when he does come back. So there is a point where he would have to miss that game. So the game starts two weeks from today. Yeah. So let's say he has a week. He's in great shape, obviously. He lost weight.

So let's say he's with his family for the next five days to whatever's going on here. And then he comes back in quarantine. And then it would be fine. He would have plenty of time. He has two weeks. Yeah, no. So, yeah, it sounds serious. I mean, that sounds like intense. Sure. I mean, he's one of the focal point. I mean, a lot of people are thinking that the Pelicans can actually get into the playoffs and the NBA is making sure they have every opportunity because we all want to watch this kid play. He's just so much fun. Yeah. I mean, they literally, the first game back since the shutdown is Zion against the jazz. And that ain't because of the jazz.

So even Dak's biggest critics have to admit that the way he conducts himself off the field is pretty much. much flawless. Never gets in trouble. Always says the right thing. Never puts out anything regrettable on social media. So Wednesday night, he says this to USA Today after not getting an exemption. I'm a cowboy and couldn't be happier. I look forward to working along with Coach McCarthy, the staff and my teammates to be the best team we can be in pursuit to our goal of a Super Bowl. Perfect comment. Perfect. His brother, however, you would not say that about. Tad Prescott went to Twitter and expressed his feelings on his brother not getting a long-term deal saying there is a reason I was never a Dallas Cowboys fan

growing up or before they drafted Dak after today. Who knows how much longer I'll be cheering for that? That sounds like a threat right there. A little bit of a threat. You said yesterday that you kind of thought that Dak would be a cowboy for a little while longer. This

is clearly some kind of like hey, we could leave threat. How serious it is, who knows? I'm never going to blame anybody for what a family member says. I just don't think it's I don't think it's fair at all. Sure. I mean, first of all, I don't know Tad Prescott, but every family, and I'm not insinuating Tad's crazy, every family's got a crazy person, a crazy cousin, a crazy brother or a crazy sister. Everybody's got a crazy person. If they say something, you got to, secondly, Dak may vent to his brother from time to time, but that's what family members do. My kids have told me they hate me. I don't take it personally. My kids need to vent so they don't get in fights with their teachers, so my kids vent at me. I don't take it personally. And I know everybody's got to release their frustration.

So if Dak Prescott during the last three months has been frustrated, where does he go? He goes probably to his brother and vents. That doesn't mean, there are people in my life I love. I vent about to my wife. That doesn't mean I'm unhappy with all those people, but everybody needs a place to vent. If Dak's been frustrated, he's been venting perhaps to his brother. But that doesn't mean Dak doesn't like Jerry and doesn't like the Cowboys. everybody should have the right to have a cousin, a friend, an ally.

They vent about their boss. They've been about their paycheck. They've been about their kids. They've been about their husband or wife. And Tad's probably heard a lot of venting. And he probably thinks, you know, so I just don't. Family members, what is said within a family is mostly highly emotional because you feel like it's a safe place.

So if one of those people you think has got your back goes out online and says something, I'm not holding an account. We've all said things about people we like to family members that, you know, we wish didn't go outside the family. Also, Tad thought his brother was going to get $100 million guaranteed. And he got 30. And he's a little bummed, you got 30. I think anyone would be like that if a family member was about to get $100 million. And finally, one of the first things Cam Newton thought about when his agent told him the Patriots were interested is how would him in Belichick mesh?

Patriots have a system and a culture that doesn't really bend or break for anybody. Willie McGinnis, who won three Super Bowls in New England, was on the Pardon My Take podcast and talked about Cam fitting into the culture in New England. I think like any other player, whether it's Corey Dillon, Randy Moss, any other player, high-profile player with a big ego and personality that's coming to our organization, they quickly find out it's about team. team reigns over individualism. No matter who you are, how big your personality is,

how good you are, what draft pick, none of that matters. There's no exemption. So I think he will respect that. And I think he also respect that he's going to an organization that's had a lot of success without him. And he can be a part of something really good if he buys into it. If he buys into it. Listen, let's be honest.

Both Belichick and Cam want it to work. Yeah. I mean, Belichick doesn't want to work. want to go 0-16 without Brady. And Cam wants to show he can still be the guy. Even if it's not in New England long term, he wants to show that he's a franchise quarterback. Generally, if people want something to work and they're talented, it works. It comes down.

Like if you want something to work, I need it to work to get the big deal, you'll make it work. Yeah. You'll sacrifice. But Cam has always been kind of the, he was the guy in Carolina his entire time. Number one pick, He's been the guy. He was the guy. And there is no, even Brady wasn't the guy in New England. That's an adjustment.

No question. All right. John Goulet with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. 20 years of NFL scouting and executive work, former GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

A friend of mine, Mark Dominic, now is joining us. V. The Coward Global Satellite Network brought to you by Mercedes-Benz the best or nothing. By the way, you know, we talk about these contract situations. So I like Dak. I think Dax's a really good player. I don't want to pay him great money, and that's always been my kind of rule.

You pay very few people transformational money. Mahomes, Lamar may be that guy, Aaron Donald. There are players, you know, Julio Jones. I think Jamal Adams is the best safety with Duran James in the league. I'd probably pay both of them. Is that an unfair assessment that, listen, I know Dax won a bunch of games, but I don't think he's A. I think he's B, and I think they offered him a B, B, B, B, B,

plus contract. Am I wrong on that? Oh, I think you're right, Colin, and I appreciate being on with you, but I think you're right. I think that's the way they've looked at this as a B plus contract, and that's the way they've negotiated, although I think Todd France, CAA, Dac Prescott, are sitting there going, look, we think we're better than Carson wins. We know we're better than Jared Goff, so we should be above that number. And now with Patrick Mahomes coming in at such a high lofty number, there's got to be something in between. So I feel like Dallas is doing what you're saying, Colin. But Dax's team sitting there saying, okay, I'll prove it one more year and you'll pay more

year for it. And I appreciate that's perspective on this. Now, do you think, I mean, you have had an owner before above you. And Jerry Jones has a history. He'll pay guys. But Jerry kind of laid it out five years and Dax's four years. Listen, I mean, owners have a right

to be stubborn too. Or do you think Jerry was too stubborn on the year thing? I think he's too stubborn on the year thing. I think a four-year deal. Really, the wheelhouse for NFL players should be fighting for three and four-year contracts. Because by the time they get to the end of the contract, maybe they don't hold out because they're still being paid a good base salary. And therefore, when the market's been going up over the last couple of years,

hopefully as we see it coming back around, they're still getting paid so they're not thinking, well, I'm so drastically underpaid. So then you end up tearing up year five anyway. So I think if you go year four, you might get better, like less guarantee, maybe a lower APY because you're giving the player what he wants. And I think that's a trade-up I would have done. Do you think this signals a potential divorce down the road? I don't. You know, Colin, I think that the Dallas Cowboys wearing the star, that brings a lot more revenue to him. I think he's enjoyed being there. I think he loves his teammates and all those kind of things. I don't think that it is, but I got to say this, just because the Dallas Cowboys now have them on a one-year deal and all these clubs around the National Football League feel like they've got their quarterback, in one year from now, the Bears may not feel like they've got their quarterback. The Jaguars may not feel like they've got their quarterback. The Denver Broncos may not. Now, they may all, but there's going to be openings for Dak Prescott. It's not like, oh, well, there's nothing. there because not every one of these quarterbacks is going to play to an extraordinary level. So, you know, I think Dak is kind of playing the Kirk Cousin role of just like, hey, we're

going to play this thing out. But he'll end up making more money because of it, and that's okay. You know, I said to start my show today, not even Michael Jordan got everything. He got a petty GM and a cheap owner. LeBron hasn't had the best coaches. Tom Brady doesn't get the weapons. Aaron Rogers doesn't get the owner of the defense. Russell Wilson doesn't get the offensive coordinator of the O line. Mahomes didn't get every penny. not every even the greatest of in my business Howard Stern Oprah Winfrey you don't get everything it's hard to get everything it may take to you get into your 50s or 60s in my business

could I make the argument Dack got stability an owner that's well capitalized the biggest brand the best offensive line the best or second best running back always had better than average weapons he got a lot they offered him a hundred million he was trying to thread the needle like like the old Wall Street saying pigs get fed hogs get slaughtered he he in inherited a lot of gifts. Could I say he was trying to get everything and he was getting a, he's almost been given

everything. Yeah. You know the hard part we've got, Colin, is we don't know exactly what the structure was. So although the money sounds good and the amount of the deal sounds good, it's control that's important to a player. And it's that guaranteed money. And it's not just the rolling guarantees that so many clubs are going to right now because that's a farce too for players.

I mean, it sounds good, but they still don't have to. control. The club's always in control. So to me, this comes down to where the guaranteed number really was, starting with the franchise tag and doubling that up. So was it fully guaranteed $60, $70 million like you would expect? I don't know. And that's where I get nervous because I'm sure Dallas is sitting and going, you know what, let's make him play another year out. Because I think in the end, as a club, I like the franchise tag and use it with a player because there's a lot more pressure on them. And I want to see them in that form. So a Miles Garrett got a massive deal yesterday. I don't have a problem with it.

Your takeaway on paying, now he's going to make about $20, $25 million a year, $25 million. That is a fortune for a defensive player. How do you look at it? I look at it as we hear all these owners worried about like, let's have these players do a 25 or 35% like furlough of their money. And yet let's go reset the market at quarterback and defensive end while we're doing it. So it's like which way are we taking it? And so, you know, I think it's a good thing. signing. I'm not afraid of it. And I think what you do in this kind of a contract is you can

absolutely have clawback language with the guaranteed portion of it that if something off the field happens again, Miles has got to understand that's going to be in this contract. His agent understand that's going to be in this contract. So I think for the Cleveland Browns, I think it makes sense to get him locked away and put in the bank because how talented truly is, because I would not be surprised if he led the league in sacks next year. I think he can be that guy. Yeah. better to be in front of it and then behind it. I know a lot of GMs or former GMs, you're one. Running back, there's a theory out there, never sign a running back to a second contract.

They're the last guy in the NFL on offense that you can hit from any angle, anytime. I look at Derek Henry's contract and here's what's interesting. He didn't start for two years. He split time his third year. But the last, you know, season, he's been a monster. Would you be okay paying him? Like, where do you land on that? Yeah, this one, Colin, I played the franchise tag.

And I think he was expecting the franchise tag. And that's what I would have done in this situation because of the way he runs. Look, I like that he got paid. I think it's a very fair contract for the style of running this. But I don't think I pay running backs who don't have tons of catches out of the backfield. I'll pay Alvin Kamara. I'll pay Kirstram Kaffrey. I'll pay Dalvin Cook.

But the guys that don't catch the ball of the back field as well, I think those you try to put on the rental stage and say, look, I'll see one more year in this franchise tag and see if he can take the pounding. He's big enough to do that. And then I can readjust next year instead of going ahead and jumping in and basically paying two years in advance and not seeing another year of him doing it. So as good as he is, I'm

happy for him. I just, I don't want to pay it back unless he can catch the ball of the backfield. Yeah. And he does it. Mark Dominic over 20 years of front office experience. The CAM situation's interesting. I just said this a minute ago. Cam needs it to work. You know, it's like if my

doctor came up to me and says, you got to work out more or you're going to, you know, or you're going to not live as long, then you just make it work, right? Regardless of what I want to do with my life. For Cam, I mean, guys are playing to 40. He's still got seven, eight years of potentially huge money. It needs to work. Is that enough for him to make a fairly clear pivot to, you know, less me, more us? Because he does feel like kind of an independent contractor sometimes. I'm going to do it my way, figure out the way you work around me. Do you think he pivots more into a Patriot way guy?

I do. And I think you're spot on on this one, Colin. Because I think like you said earlier on, Belichick wants to win and prove that he can win without Tom Brady. And Cam Newton needs this to work out if he's going to be a start on the national football league anytime going forward. So therefore, I think that ego gets dropped to the side. I think the mercenary title that Cam Newton may have, like I do it my way like

you're talking about. I don't think it's going to be there. I think it's going to disappear quickly, and I think that the backs around him, the weapons around him, these young tight ends are bringing in. I think they'll all be friends, but Cam has to have this work.

Belichick needs it to work. Cam has to, and that's the big difference here, and that's why he took the contract he did because he wanted to put himself in the team that he thinks I can still get this team to playoffs, and therefore I can either stay here or I can catapult myself

to one of those other organizations as well. By the way, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you about Tampa Bay, you spent so many years there, Tom Brady now coming over. And, you know, I've said this before is that teams become their cities. Boston is an intellectual hub. It's intense. The weather, the history, the titles, the analytics. It is, you know, it was very easy to kind of sell Belichick's way in New England. People work hard. You know, in the winters, you get only so many hours

of sunlight. You're in the building. You can't go outside anyway. It's freezing. Tampa's different. It's like the classic port city. The weather's good. Cocktails early. Take time off. Lots to do in the city, go outside and play golf. Tom's bringing this intensity to a much less intense city and franchise. And I've said, I think Tom will be really productive. But it is much easier to ask an intense guy to chill out a little than to ask chill out guy to get barked at all the time. I think there's a little, you know, we talk Cam in New England culturally.

I think there's a Brady Tampa cultural thing here that could be problematic. Am I wrong? I don't think you're wrong because there's some whispers already that they're calling Coach Brady in the building instead of Tom Brady, right? Because he's taking control of the team the way he likes to. It's just tough spot. I mean, imagine being a young player in Tampa Bay and Tom's like, hey, we're going down to the park today and throwing ball.

Are you coming? And you're like, yeah, I better. I guess I have to. Yeah, I'm going to be there. Like, I don't have a choice. And so he's kind of put guys in the spot. But at the same point, they needed a culture change like this within the organization. It's been six years since I've been there.

We've had one 10-win season in the last decade. it's been very hard for Tampa. So they needed something to jolt it and why not better at the quarterback position? And so I think for Tom, it's a move I like for Tampa Bay. I like for coach Brady. I like for the entire organization.

But it's going to be a short window. I think it's a two-year window that's going to have to bruce through. And I think there's so much expectations now in Tampa that an eight and eight, nine and seven season aren't going to cut it in a division that's going to be very hard to get through. Yeah, I even think Carolina is going to spoil somebody's season.

I think they're going to score some points. Mark, No, Colin. We moved to Nashville now, so we're in Nashville, Tennessee for the last two years. It's a great place to be, by the way. It's a great city to be in. Mark, good seeing you. Good, best wishes to your family. Thanks, buddy. Good to see you, too. Yeah, Nashville is a great place. All right, coming up next, Miles Garrett got a lot of money, and a lot of people I saw on Twitter yesterday saying, oh, last time I saw this guy was beating somebody with a helmet. But my thoughts on Miles Garrett on his actions, the contract, and how we now view people in America.

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He got a massive deal. 100 million guaranteed, 25 million a year. That's a ton, ton of money for a defensive player. But he's great. But what I saw on Twitter yesterday, and I, you know, unlike Bill Gates or Barack Obama or Warren Buffett, nobody's messing with my Twitter. I wasn't on it much yesterday. But I saw a lot of people saying, oh, great, he gets rewarded.

The last time I saw this guy, he was beating someone. over the head with a helmet, and this is his reward. Well, let's be honest now. He was suspended six games. That's like almost half a season. He didn't get off Scott free. He was suspended six games. But the bigger question is, should I now judge Miles Garrett due to one absolutely regrettable

moment? All of you that wanted to cancel Drew Brees, because in my opinion, certainly not everybody, he was tone deaf. But if you look at the resume of Drew Breeze and his generosity to the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana, if you look at his charities, if you look at Drew Breeze's resume,

he's a great guy who his teammates, and that matters as a quarterback, you need your own line and your receivers to have your back. His teammates said, dude, you're tone deaf. It wasn't the media that forced anybody to do that. It was his teammates to Drew Breeze that said, bro, got to have our back here on this thing. Got to have our back on Black Lives Matter.

And Drew went, ah, I missed on that one. Stop blaming the media for that. It was teammates going to a social platform and calling him out. And he read it, and he heard it, and he acted. But I don't want to cancel Drew Brees. I don't judge people on one moment, one time. I judge them over time. I don't judge people on one bad moment.

We all have them, especially people who are risk takers, who go for it. You play in a high-energy game like the NFL. It is every play is survival. Miles Garrett lost it and was suspended. I'd still pay him. He's a kid, first of all. He's only 24. He's got six great years left.

He averages almost a sack of game. He was well-liked at Texas A&M. I looked it up this morning, and he was voted captain, second year for the Cleveland Browns. We've got to stop judging people on one time instead of overtime. He's a good dude, made a horrible mistake. Drew Brees is an all-time great guy. He was tone deaf. His teammates called him out.

And that's just my opinion. Doesn't mean he was, but in my opinion he was. He apologized. I'm not going to cancel Miles Z. Garrett and I'm not canceling Drew Breeze. You know, we've talked today about who deserves to get what. And it's really interesting. If you want to know somebody in the NFL that's really underpaid, because a lot of you

are saying, DAC is underpaid. I'm going to show you something. Pro Football Focus ranked all 32 units in the NFL entering this season, the best tight end rankings. So these are the teams with the best tight ends in the NFL. Here's what's interesting. Many of them, over half, you think, are Super Bowl contenders. Here's pro football focus ranking all 32 wide receiver units entering the season. Two look like Super Bowl teams to me. The tight end position is the most underpaid position

in the NFL. Do you know the franchise tag number for tight ends right now in the NFL? The franchise tag number, 10.5 million. Do you know what the wide receiver franchise tag number is in the NFL right now? 18 million. Almost double. You can double. Just think about this. In bad weather, receivers can become less valuable.

Windy, rain, sleet can't throw the ball deep. One of the playoffs in the NFL, bad weather. So receivers can become less valuable when the game matters more. tight ends are actually more valuable late in seasons. They can run shorter routes. Blocking, which is a key component to any good tight end. Tony Gonzalez blocks. Shannon Sharp blocks.

Travis Kelsey can block. George Kittle can block. Blocking, shorter routes, safer throws, get rid of the ball quicker. Situational, very big. Gronk blocked. Wide receivers often already been really asked to block. If you want to ask who's underpaid, it is tight ends. Travis Kelsey right now makes as much as Golden Tate.

Come on now. I mean, come on now. You want to talk underpaid. Tight ends get hosed. The game has changed. They block for me. They're better in cold weather. Hour two coming up next.

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John Goulet sitting in for Joy Taylor today, who's taking a few days off. We all are. That's the world we live in now as sports. I'm watching more sports now over the last four or five days. It's percolating. Big golf tournament this weekend. I'll watch.

I watched MLS. I watched UFC last night. So stuff's happening. We've got sports. Again, MLS, a couple of teams have dropped out. If you start it, you can't stop it. You can't be paralyzed. You've got to manage this.

If some teams drop out, they drop out. Two MLS teams have dropped out. Just go to the end, crown a winner, get through it, and do the best you possibly can. The athletes are the youngest and the best shape in the world. they have the least more than half will be asymptomatic statistically. You've got to get through it. UFC's done a remarkable job and they've had several fighters test positive for COVID. It's just the way it is.

You've got to get through it, head down. So, Dak Prescott did not sign a long-term deal. Never thought he would. Never thought he was worth huge money. I thought Dallas was more than gracious. But here's the interesting part here. So again, the NFL's been this, you know, this comet. Up, up, up, up, up, up, up.

The salary cap's coming down because of COVID. They're not going to have fans in the stands. So the money's coming down. But Dak's salary now, next two years, if he remains a cowboys, going up. Here's the way the franchise tag works. So Dak got franchise tag. He's going to make $31.4 million. The way the franchise tag works, if you do it again, you get a minimum of 20% raise.

That means Dak would make $37.7 million next year. And you're like, okay, just did one more big year. But the salary cap's coming way down, and Dak's going to be, be at $38 million. That's minimum. That's guaranteed. That's the way the franchise tag works. So now you get into a situation where you ask, could they just move off him?

They don't want to pay $38 million for DAC. You're getting into the home's money here. It's certainly possible. So the question is, what's the market for DAC? I do not think it's huge. I told you. I didn't think Cam's market was going to be huge. I didn't think James market was going to be huge.

I told you the Teddy Bridgewater market would be bigger than you think. So it's a bigger market for Dak than James Winston, who's immature and it makes too many, bad judgment. Dak didn't have that. I think it's a bigger market than Cam Newton. He is younger than Cam, healthier than Cam, and more focused than Cam. I think it's a bigger market than Derek Carr. And I think there's a market for Derek Carr, but it's a bigger market. He wins more than Derek Carr.

And I think he's a little better and a little bit more. of a gamer in big spots. So there's a market there. But how big is the market? Give you an example. We know that New England and Cam, we know Jacksonville wants a quarterback. Jacksonville's not paying 38 million. Jacksonville wants to go with a higher ceiling guy and a cheaper guy. They'll go the college route. New England probably is looking at a quarterback in the draft if they can get there. Belichick doesn't pay quarterbacks that. So they're going to go the college route, the Stidham route, the cheaper route, or the higher ceiling route. They're not going to go deck. So just take Jacksonville and New England out of it.

There's a couple other arguments to be made, but here is the spot to me that is so obvious, and he's even a perfect fit, because I think Dax's a grinder, and this is a grinding franchise, the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts like the Cowboys. If Jonathan Taylor,

the running back from Wisconsin, who they draft at top of the second round, pops, and I think he will, there's your Zeke. They also have, like the Cowboys, the best young offensive line in the NFL. A lot of what's the best. the Colts have for DAC next year is what the Cowboys had. Great O line, potentially great running

back and an offensive-minded former NFL quarterback as head coach. The difference is I think the GM of the Colts is better crisp battered and I think the defense is actually pretty close to being interesting, very interesting in Indy. I like their defense. We'll see if the draft picks hit. We'll see if the corners hit. But Indianapolis makes a ton of sense. Here's the other thing. Indy doesn't pay anybody. You know who they pay? And they're both coming off the books. Philip Rivers makes $25 million and Jacoby Brissette makes $21. $46 million is coming off the books in Indianapolis in one year at quarterback. Could you give DAC $36 million? Absolutely. If you gave DAC that offensive line, that GM, that coach, the improving defense, and Jonathan Taylor, the running back

out of Wisconsin hits, you got yourself a playoff team. Is it a Super Bowl team? I don't know. But it's a playoff team. It is a playoff team. So I do not think the market is huge for DAC, but I know if I'm as agent, Indianapolis, Dak's a grinder, he's a company guy,

Indianapolis doesn't want a lot of wave makers. That is perfect. And I feel that DAC in Indianapolis is a lot like Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. We like Minnesota's defense. We like their coach. We like their GM. We like their structure.

There was a lot we liked about Minnesota. but we're like, you know, you're playing Aaron Rogers twice a year. You've got to get somebody who can compete. And nothing against Case Keenham, but they kind of bounced around. They couldn't find the quarterback never feels like. And they got very solid B quarterback Kirk Cousins. Some days he's B plus, kind of a B guy. That's how I view Dak Prescott.

I do think Dax better than Kirk Cousins. Not my long shot. Doesn't throw quite the nice ball, not quite as accurate. But I think overall, Dax a little better. Indianapolis makes a ton of sense. They got two big, the only salaries that are big, both coming off the books, And they're at the position. So that one makes sense.

So there is a market for him. It's bigger than James. It's bigger than Derek Carr. It'll be like, I think it'll be closer to the Kirk Cousins market. The Jets made him a huge offer. Denver made him a big offer. Minnesota made him a big offer. About three teams, two to three teams.

You know, I want to talk about this for a second. So we know Mahomes just signed a big deal in Kansas City. They also just signed Chris Jones. A great defensive tackle. Again, I don't have any problem paying Chris Jones. If you watch the Chiefs, Chris Jones, is a problem. You've got to double team Chris Jones a lot.

He's not Aaron Donald, but he's in that Fletcher Jones space. You got to double him. Or it's just he's going to wreak havoc on your running game. So one of the things that I think is understated about having a great quarterback. And this is why I would pay Chris Jones is because when you get, let's take the two best quarterbacks in the league, Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson, in my opinion. when you get a great quarterback, they make almost everything work on the offensive side of the ball. So Brett Veets, the general manager, all he has to worry about now with Patrick Mahomes,

get pass rushers and good corners, because you're going to be leading in most of your games. Think about this. I'll just take the last several years. These are players that the Seahawks and the Chiefs, mid-round guys, undrafted guys, let go by other team guys that popped with Russell Wilson and Mahomes.

Doug Baldwin, Tyler Lockett, Chris Carson, Will Disley, Damian Williams, the running back, who was a dolphin, didn't do much, went to Kansas City, pop for Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, now a Brown.

Those are mid-round guys who've become wildly productive. When you have a great quarterback, And there's maybe only five or six of these. Great quarterbacks. I am willing to pay big money for somebody beyond my quarterback because I know that Mahomes and Wilson are going to, Damian Williams played for the Dolphins. Then he goes to Kansas City.

Bang. Will Disley was a blocking tight end at Washington. He was a defensive end when he got to college. Will Disley was a blocking tight end in college. He goes to Russell Wilson. You're like, why is he always open? Why is he catching touchdowns? So that's why the Chris Jones contract to me works.

You give me a Mahomes. You give me an Aaron Rogers. You give me a Russell Wilson. And again, there's about six of these guys. They're going to make all the offensive pieces or almost all of them. You're going to be able to get mid-round, third round, fourth round, fifth round, undrafted, Doug Baldwin undrafted guys, they'll make them stars all the time regularly. Never forget with Seattle.

D.K. Metcalfe dropped in the draft. Everybody's like he doesn't run routes. He's more of a bodybuilder. Seattle gets him and he pops as a rookie. So I'm good with it. I'm good with paying my second star, huge money. If my quarterback is elite because he elevates everybody on one side of the football. All right, Mike Fisher,

SI.com, Cowboys Reporter, stopping by, DAC did not get the big money. I think it's on DAC. I think it was on the table. I think it was reasonable. And DAC argued over one year. He wanted four years back on the market. Cowboys offered five. Mark Dominic thinks Jerry was stubborn.

I don't think you ever want to back billionaires into a corner. I wouldn't back millionaires into a corner. I'm not backing billionaires into a corner. It felt like a game of chicken. And according to Jane Slater, Dak and his agent made a late push yesterday in the afternoon, and it was too late. That tells me they were rolling the dice,

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But best of all today, he's going to join us live now. He covers the Dallas Cowboys. He's lived in Texas for a long time. And let's bring in Mike via the Coward Global Satellite Network. from this point forward on my show. If you cover the Cowboys, if you don't come on my show, in a cowboy hat, I am not even interested. This is the, with a tractor behind him.

This is great, Mike. How are you? It's not my farm. It's not my tractor. It's not even my hat. But yippy Kaye, con coward. God, it's so great. I love this.

All right, let's start with this. You know, Dack's been given a lot, a way. well-capitalized franchise, stability, a great O line, a great running back, good weapons, an offensive-minded coach, now another one. They offered him five years. He wanted four. Could I make the argument? Even Mahomes didn't get all the money he wants.

Brady doesn't get the weapons he wants. Russell Wilson never gets the offensive line he wants. Aaron Rogers doesn't get the defense he wants. Boy, Dax been given a lot. They offered him $100 million guaranteed. He should have signed it. Is that a fair criticism? Yeah, what we've reported for quite some time is 35 million APY over five years with 106 million in virtual guarantees or something over that.

I never begrudge the player for saying, I want everything I can get. And Dak Prescott here is betting on himself. That's the phrase that he often uses, and he'll use it again this year. Colin, here's the trick here, though, and I'm talking to some people this morning, and I don't know that this is all set in stone yet, But if there's no 2020 NFL season, these franchise contracts toll, meaning they jump ahead and begin again in 2021, which leaves Dak Prescott and others on the tag in financial limbo for this year if there's no games. And then he starts over again with this whole process, not with the 37.7, which would be the second year of a tag. He'd be the first year of a tag next year. So not only is he betting on himself, Dak Crescott, he's betting there's going to be an NFL season.

Does this mean because the salary cap's going to come down, obviously, Mike, and the way the salary cap can work, you know, Dak's going to be making a lot of money. If we do have a season and he gets paid $31.5 million, and then next year he'd be guaranteed 20% above that, 37.7. As the salary cap comes down, you start looking at those numbers and go, that's a lot. That is a big number if he's good, not great. Is there an impending divorce? Could you see this thing not materializing one year from now? He's out.

Yeah, first of all, to the financial side of it. I know there's some cap people on various teams that don't think it's going to go down because of the COVID-19 loss revenue. They think it'll stay flat. So let's just go with that. Okay. Even if it is flat, at $38 million on a cap that's $198 million, I believe that's 20%. Now, there's no magic number that says, oh, this percentage means you can't win. That's not true.

But if you're paying 20% to one player or any player, it will mean that you'll have to start throwing people overboard. It'll mean that you're guaranteed money, big guys, and the Cowboys have 11 of those, they'll stay, guaranteed money. But the middle class will be out. So you will have a very top, heavy roster, then you'll have a whole bunch of guys at the bottom who you, all your draft picks better make the team. They're going to have to make the team because the middle class will be thrown out to the divorce part of this. Certainly it's premature there. Deck Prescott's comments to our friend Jane Slater and others is about positivity. He's blessed. He's grateful. And I believe to a great degree he is.

I fear if I'm Cowboys Nation that what's about to happen here, worst case scenario, is what happened to Kirk Cousins and the Washington franchise. Yes, they paid him, kind of. Yes, they liked him, kind of. But it was a semi-commitment from both parties. And I wonder if inside that building it didn't cause players, coaches, scouts, and men. administrators to say, so are we kind of committed to him? Is he kind of committed to us? Do we really have faith in him? And the other thing that can happen is because Dak Prescott is beloved in this locker room, the other 52 guys, 54 guys, 89 guys, could look around and say, wait a minute, if the Joneses aren't going to take care of that good soldier, how do I know they're going to take care of me?

Yeah, no, some stuff like this can affect locker rooms. was I don't know how much power Mike McCarthy has, but good Lord, Matt LaFleur doesn't have Mike McCarthy's resume, and even he, if you watch the Packers draft, appeared to have enough power to get Jordan Love and not get Aaron Rogers a wide receiver. So Matt LaFleur looks like he's reshaping the Green Bay offense to be more run-based, less Aaron-based,

and I think McCarthy's got at least that much power in Dallas. Was he banging on the table for Dak? Do I know that? We have, at my radio station 1053, 3, the fan, we call it Tolo, turn it on, leave it on. And that's what I do with the Colin Coward show. So I am familiar from earlier in the week with your views on that because I Tolo your show. I don't think you're on point there. You're right about the power.

Mike McCarthy has more power here than he ever had in Green Bay, personnel-wise power. This is a we thing here, contrary to Jerry Jones's critics, just like Jason Garrett had a great deal of power. But I think Mike McCarthy is an advocate of this quarterback. That doesn't mean he goes in and says, give him $2 million more. I don't think he did that. I don't think that's his place. But he has on the record and behind the scenes, too, talked about Dak Prescott being a franchise quarterback,

a Super Bowl caliber-winning quarterback. And Colin, I would argue with you over a beer that Mike McCarthy's probably disappointed a little bit today because he may have signed on here for the five-year deal thinking, hey, I got one thing here. I got a quarterback. And now you've kind of got a quarterback. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I was just laying it out. Indianapolis

doesn't pay many people. Chris Ballard is really smart. He pays three people. Two of them are quarterbacks. Brissette and Phillip, and they're both off the books. And if I'm the agent, I'm Tart Archer for Dak, I'm like, listen, that old line, that

defense, that GM, that coach, that that, that looks like to me of the teams that would be looking for somebody and could afford 30 plus million, Indianapolis looks really good for DAC and the Colts. Is there another team out there if he went on the market that you, there's parts of it that are attractive? I think one of the odds makers has put out Jacksonville as a future destination. Now, I don't see it.

But again, you bet against oddmakers, you end up living in a cardboard box under a bridge, so I don't do that either. I think what the agent Todd France here did was attempt to do the shortest-term deal that he found to be realistic. The salary cap is going to explode after the 20-22 season, as I'm sure you know, because the TV contract is going to expire. And the new TV contract may be driven by Jerry Jones will go up, up, up, it'll explode upward, salaries will explode upward. And so, Dak Prescott wants a bite of that apple as soon as possible. In that sense, I think the agent Todd France did fine here. Keep this in mind, we're from a certain age, Colin, you and I, not that I would pretend that you're quite my age, when, oh, you better get that guaranteed money because what if you break your neck and you never play football again? That was certainly true in a time when players made $1 million. But if you make $31 million guaranteed and for some reason you blow out a shoulder and never play football again, you have insurance for the rest of your life. So that's another bet on your self for Dak Prescott.

31 this year, 38 next year, that's $69 million in full guarantees, assuming he is on the field and there's games. That's not a bad bet. Finally, one of the reasons I love going to you and going to reporters around the country is because you can listen to your local sports radio. You're really in kind of the belly of the beast here. And Dallas Sports Talk Radio is very popular. There's a lot of listeners.

One of the cities in America where millions. Listen. You turn on radio in Dallas today. What are they saying about the DAC? Jerry, no big long contract. What's the pulse of the city this morning? Oh, I think there's two pulses, one for each wrist. Both of them thinking about slitting themselves. One is Dax greedy. And listen, when we look at, and this is an oldest trick in the book and talk radio and you've done it. We've all done it. What about the firemen? What about the teachers? Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're right. $31 million is too much for one human athlete to make. At the same time, Jerry Jones is always going to get beat up here, even though he wasn't really the point man. He did get involved late. I think, though, in the end, Colin, there's a certain degree of,

if you want to be fair here, that both sides kind of get what they want. The Cowboys can afford Dak Prescott. He's already under the cap at $31 million. And they have $11 million left, so they can do some more things. And Dak Prescott gets to be with his team, his guys, and we'll get another bite of the apple. So as much as in talk radio or even here, we want to come up with some villain.

Who's right? Who's wrong? Who's black? Who's white? Who's good? Who's ugly? In fact, they both share the blame for not getting done a deal that they both publicly promised they would get done.

Yeah. All right. So I want you to go calf rope or something and finish your day because you look the part. You know, you just have to do the part, Mike Fisher. And I, what are you going to do the rest of the day? wearing that outfit. I got some sheriffing to do. That is funny.

The talented Mike Fisher, thank you very much. All right, good stuff. That was perfect. Like if you were in Hollywood and you were doing a segment on our show and you went to Dallas, that's what you do right there.

That is perfect. Veteran newsman, John Goulet. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So besides Dack Prescott, the highest profile player that was going to play out the season under the franchise tag was Titans running back Derek Henry. But just before the four-eastern deadline yesterday, the Titans and Henry worked out a four-year deal. Makes him the fifth highest paid running back in the league behind McCaffrey, Zeke, Libyan, Bell, and David Johnson.

Listen, he was the leading rush or a lot. He was their offense last year and they got to the AFC championship game. No question. And that's why he's getting paid top five money. Sure. Here is what I don't understand. And Nick Wright brought this point up this morning on first things first. and I thought it was well stated.

If you were going to work out a long-term deal with Derek Henry, why did you not use the franchise tag on Ryan Tannenhill? I would have. That was my... The whole thing was we have to tag one of them. Right. So we got a deal with Tannenhill. Okay, we'll tag Henry.

Well, if you were that close to a deal with... I mean, I can't imagine they, you know, made a massive progression on the offer just yesterday at the deadline. Those are both guys that for different reasons you don't know about their future. Henry because he's taking a lot of hits and he's a running back. They fall off and Tannahill because he was good for basically three months. Seems like a perfect situation to have tagged Tannahill. Yes.

And go, let's see if he can duplicate what he did last year. Yeah, to me, the confusing part of this is Tannihil to me is the classic franchise guy. Yes. Like him, but I'm not going to get caught up in recency bias and pretend he's great. He's solid. C plus B, he's solid. He needs a lot of help. They took the ball out of his hands in Tennessee at the end of last year.

He was winning games. They took the ball out of his hands. If your offense is better when the guy doesn't have the ball, then why would you pay him? They gave him a four-year, $118 million contract. Now, they can get out of it before the end of that, but I believe it's about $90 million guarantee. Yeah, I would have franchised Tannehill. I would have paid. Like, I would have paid Derek Henry, but I think he's very quickly won't be a top five paid running back.

And I don't think he's, I don't think he's at that spot. I don't think he's Christian McCaffrey. So I don't think he's Zeke. I don't think he's Akewan Barclay. This feels a little bit like Foles. No, Foles is more successful, but you give him a bunch of money. Now, it wasn't the Eagles, it was the Jags. You give him all this money, and then a few games in, you go, oh, no, he's not really.

He's kind of a backupish guy. Yeah, no, Derek Henry's a really good back, and he fits their culture, and he fits what they're trying to do. But my thing is, why pay both the long contracts? You could have clearly franchised Tannehill. Tanyhill's made a lot of money. He would not have been bitter. I mean, you took the ball out of his hands in the playoffs. It would have been $30 million this year.

He knows. I think Tannahill has an understanding of what's expected of him and what it is. If you don't pay Derek Henry, you could lose some guys in the locker room. But if you don't pay Tannahill, I think everybody goes, well, it's not, we're led by Vrable, the running game, the defense. So I think it's, you know, Tennessee is always hard to figure. They're never terrible. They're never brilliantly run. They're always kind of, they're the classic in the middle team that popped for a month last year.

Right. So Luca Danshich, undoubtedly a rising star in the NBA. Yes. But Paul Pierce may have gone a little. little overboard in praising him, according to some. Take a listen to what Pierce said on the jump recently about the Mavericks Guard. I expect special things from him. I mean, you talk about a kid who made one of the biggest leaps in recent memory from a rookie

of the year to an MVP caliber player. I mean, he's won every European championship that you can think of, every European MVP that you can think of. So I expect special things from this kid. Clearly, he's special. He's a talent. He's probably to me, to me, he is. is the most talented player in the NBA today, and the lights are never too bright for him. Yeah, I wouldn't go there, but he's, he's going to give you 28 and a half points a game for the next decade.

That sounds crazy, but he didn't, he didn't say best player. He said most talented. A guy that's averaging 29, 9, and 9, I can make an argument for might be the most talented, right? That's not crazy. Oh, no, he, he is, he is a handful. He's really. And by the way, he's 20. Yeah, I mean, I think I would never really do this normally. I think I can make a projection. He'll be a top 10 score all time. Now, will he have a bunch of rings?

But when you watch his game, he's going to be a top 10 score league history. And by the way, they're not all the same. Carl Malone is a top 10 score. Karim's a center. Michael, obviously. Some guys don't have all the rings, some guys do. He's also, he's a point guard.

the ball's going to be in his hands for the next 15 years. He's going to be able to score. Credibly talented. I mean, Paul Pierce does a lot of crazy weird things. I don't think that was on the top 10 list of weird stuff he's said. He's averaging 30 a game at 20. When's the last guy in this? And he's a passer.

And his shooting is decent, but if that gets better from three, he'll be unbelievable. All right. I know you're like this. Finally, we have an NBA snitch line update. Oh, God. Lakers Center Dwight Howard claims someone reported him to the NBA snitch line. Someone told on me is what he said. However, it may have actually been Howard that ratted himself out.

He keeps posting videos of himself outside and in the bubble, not outside of the bubble, but outside walking around within the bubble, without wearing a mask. So it's actually likely that he was not snitched on as much as people are watching his social media and can see that he's not following the rules. He has apparently been warned. Stop doing that. Not the video thing, but stop walking around without the mass. So we have the first player that thinks he was officially snitched on.

I know you love the snitch line. You're fascinated by it. Yeah, I mean, it's... Rudy Gober called it petty. I don't think Rudy Gobert should be criticizing anything anyone does for a while, but whatever. I think it's great. I think it's fascinating. I'm not a snitcher, so...

But I, you know, there's a health angle here. You're just saying, you know, don't get COVID. But you see the videos, though. and he's saying he got snitch. Meanwhile, he's walking around without a mask on, and they're supposed to be wearing masks at all times, even though they've obviously done their quarantine. I think it's funny.

I think player... Now, by the way, can executive snitch on people, too? Or is it just players? My guess would be anyone in the bubble probably has the number, right? Do you see Doc Rivers yesterday? He said, I've snitched on LeBron. I've snitched on... I've snitched on the clip.

He was talking about who he snitched on the box and Janus. He goes, I'm going to snitch on everybody. Yeah. John Goulet with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Rob Parker, you know, sometimes I bring Rob on and I don't have a ton of time.

I am not going to sell Rob Parker short. I'm going to give him his full allotment of time today because he's got all sorts opinions on Dak Prescott and others. Also, today, Zeke is complaining that nobody will put respect on his name. It feels like a little bit like a cowboy show today. We got people with cowboy hats and tractors. but it's the reality. This thing was, we've been doing this for a month on deck,

and today's the day. You know, I think he's a franchise tag quarterback. I think he's a really good franchise tag quarterback, but that's what I think he is. Rob Parker next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.

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Oh, it's great to have him in. We got a lot of time with Rob Parker today. He's a professor, adjunct professor at USC, odd couple with Chris Broussard. Always, always. enlightening, incredibly passionate. Rob Parker, joining me via the Coward Global Satellite Network. We'll get into his fancy jacket story in a couple minutes. Okay, my takeaway on Dak, listen, they put that thing on the table a year ago, 100 million guaranteed, 106 million guaranteed.

I'd argue he made a mistake. He's not Mahomes. Why didn't, did Dak just make a big mistake here? Here's my issue, Colin. and you know how hard it is to get a franchise quarterback in the NFL. Ask yourself why weren't the Cowboys willing to give them just the four years? Make the guy happy. If he's really that guy, why are you, everybody else,

all the other quarterbacks who were drafted in his class, they all got paid. Carson Wentz took an ambulance to the contract signing, and he got to be it. Let's just be honest. Why aren't they paying him? Colin, the longer you wait, the more it costs. Jerry Jones is trying to solidify his legacy. I know he's in the Hall of Fame, but you know he needs to win one more Super Bowl, right?

Without the Jimmy Johnson so that people could say, all right, Jerry did his thing. And now you're giving doubt to your franchise quarterback because you weren't willing to just give him the four years. It doesn't make sense if you're going to sign him now. next year? What is the hold of? It only cost you more. So I don't get the reasoning behind it. I think the Cowboys made a mistake. Now, it's one thing. If you don't believe in him and you want to see more, Colin, that makes sense. But I don't understand. If you really believe he's your guy, you should have signed him. Okay. So does this mean we have an impending divorce in a year? It could happen. It just could happen unless they did.

decide to give him, what is that, $38 million the next year on a franchise tag, and then after that, or he could become a free agent, right? So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I'm not that high on, Dak, and I just wonder, when you look at his numbers, Colin, especially against the good team since his first year, his record against teams that are 500 or better is 6 and 17. And his touchdown to interception ratio, is 25 to 25, nothing special. Last year against teams over 500, DAC was one in six,

eight touchdowns, eight interceptions, nothing special. And if you're trying to win a Super Bowl, those are the teams you've got to be in the playoffs and in the Super Bowl. So I just question whether or not, why weren't the Cowboys willing to bend to make your quarterback happy

when they're giving money to everybody else? I think you answered your own question. I said this earlier. When Jerry Jones got on his private jet, and they could not get a single touchdown drive against New England or Philadelphia last year, and they had much better offensive lines than both running back wide receiver. And they could, Jerry Jones got on that private jet

driving from flying from Boston to Texas and flying from Philadelphia to Texas. And I really believe I could be crazy. That's the last games we saw, Dak and Jerry's, said, what more can I give him? We couldn't get a touchdown drive in either of those games. And maybe that's recency bias. But I think that's something, is it not?

Decisions are made on private jets all the time, Rob. No doubt. And you can imagine with the division on the line in Philadelphia, right? They would have won the division three out of four years. Yep. I mean, Carson Wentz was doing it with tape, glue, and ice cream sticks. I mean, and they won. I mean, think about the team that he was playing with.

It was ridiculous. And all they had to do was win that game, Colin, and they would have had a chance. Remember, there were people who picked the Cowboys to go to the Super Bowl. Chris Bussaud on the radio show, picked the Cowboys to go to Super Bowl. They didn't even make the playoffs. Yeah. You know, there's been a lot of talk. You really made me think last week when you said Mahalm should have taken every penny.

There's no guarantees on anything. Chiefs may make a bunch of bad draft picks. there's a lot of talk now about Kansas City being a dynasty, and I kind of roll my eyes at it. I've said before I think they're going to win one more, and I love Andy Reed, and I think Mahomes is great. What do you make of the Chiefs Dynasty talk? I think it's so premature and so ridiculous.

I think we've seen in this league, Colin, in the last 20 years, I'll give you three teams and quarterbacks, where people thought, of course, they're going to win multiple championships. Kurt Warner and the greatest show on Turk with the St. Louis Ram. Yep. They only won one. Aaron Rogers, right? When they won in 2010, they haven't been back.

They've had a couple chances, but they haven't won or been back to the Super Bowl. And you could also take a look at Russell Wilson with that defense, the Legion of Boom. How many did they get? They only got one. And let's be fair, even with the Tom Brady and all the Super Bowls, they won. Tom Brady went nine seasons without winning a Super Bowl in between the three and the beginning of his career and the three at the end. There were nine years where they didn't win the Super Bowl.

So this whole notion that they've won one and now the Kansas City Chiefs, which hadn't won in 50 years, is now going to rip off three or four. I don't buy it. And let's talk about the competition level. Lamar Jackson, who, by the way, was the best quarterback in the NFL a year ago. Colin, for all that everybody talks about, Mahal, do you know he didn't lead the quarterback position in any major statistical category last year?

Not in touchdowns. Touchdowns went from 50 to 26, and then people say, oh, he was hurt. You can't say that. You ready? He played 14 games, had 26 touchdowns. Drew Brees played 20, played 11 games, and had 27. So you can't use that as an example.

excuse and go look at the numbers. You have Deshawn Watson, you have all these young guys. Then you have the veteran guys who are still, Colin, looking to add a championship or two on their way out, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rogers, Drew Breeze. Tom Brady down in Tampa, this is not a layup for people to jump on this bandwagon that they're going to now not lose again and they can't be beaten, I think it's ridiculous. By the way, Zeke's upset and Dallas. He's all over Twitter today. They were just ranking scouts, GMs did an anonymous poll to rank the best running backs. He finished third. One scout said he's the 11th best running back in the NFL, Zeke of the Cowboys. What was your takeaway? Yeah, I don't know about 10th or 11th. That seems kind of low. But I'll be honest, despite the numbers and I saw what he put out on Twitter and talk about put respect to his name, he didn't, Colin, just for him the eye test. He didn't seem like the same running.

back last year. I don't remember him winning a game on his own or or doing something where you say, man, look at the cowboys. You know, they got a running back who can win even when the quarterback's not playing well. I just didn't see that. And I think we saw that earlier in his career. And I think it's an eye test. Not just the sometimes stats can be empty because it depends on when you get them. Yeah. So we always ask you, the America's most frugal sports writer. You pay for nothing except trips to the continent. You've gone to all six out of the, six continents you've been? No, all of them. All seven. Okay. So this jacket, tell us the story about the jacket you're wearing because it is absolutely beautiful. Thank you, Colin. This is one of my favorites.

3895, 3,895 was the ticket. And I fell in love what I tried it on. I was like, it fits like a glove. It was marked down to a thousand. And then it was another 40% off. So I paid $5.99. I am thrilled. I love getting a deal, especially when it looks great on me.

I mean, I'm thrilled with this jacket. You look fantastic. He's got a podcast on the Herd Podcast Network. Rob Parker, plus the radio show, The Odd Couple, my friend. I love having you on. I always appreciate you stopping by. And thank you so much. Always, Colin.

Thank you so much. Appreciate you. You bet. By the way, he makes an interesting point on Ezekiel Elliott, a very interesting point. So I'll give an example. Here's the thing about, because they ranked him like number three on the, all the executives, anonymous executives, GM scouts and all that stuff. And one scout had him ranked 11th. That's a bad scout. But one scout had Sequin Barclay ranked 6th. He's better than that.

One scout had Christian McCaffrey rank fourth. He's not fourth. Here's the thing about Ezekiel Elliott, though, the numbers to look at. When you get a lot of great players, when they deteriorate, it is very granular. It is very small. You've got to look at certain analytics. The issue with Zeke, yards per game, he's gone from 108 as a rookie to 98 to 95 to 85. There has been, there is no, this is linear here, folks.

He's just a little less effective every game. Every game doesn't quite have the pop, doesn't quite have the zip. And it may only be one or two times a game where he picks up an extra five or six yards on a clever move. There is erosion. This reminds me years ago, the New York Mets, the twins had a pitcher named Johan Santana. Very good. And if you went to Johann Santana's four years with the twins, his ERA, he won 20 games, the ERA is 26, and he's striking out 270 people. and he remained very good.

But four years later, he's winning 15 games. He's losing 13. His ERA is now 3-3, and his strikeouts go down. He was still borderline all-star pitcher. But he was more hitable. He couldn't throw the ball quite past people. And the Mets came in, and this is typical of the Mets, and they gave him a six-year deal.

And I remember being on the air, I was on the East Coast, and I said, there is erosion with Johann Santana. him a two-year deal, maybe three max. And what happened to Johann Santana? He had one great year with the Mets. It was never the same. Athletes, you've got to get inside. It's going to be granular.

It's going to be small. The pitcher can't quite throw the ball past the elite hitters anymore over the plate. You just can't get out of jams quite like you used to three years ago. Zeeks not quite the running back. By 85% of it, but there is erosion. And I think saying he's the third best is not. Now Fair, The Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

Whether you're working from home, working out, binge podcasting, Racon Wireless Earbuds are fantastic. Six hours of playtime, go to buyrakan.com slash h-E-R-D. Joe Varden is a veteran NBA writer. Despite his age, he's been covering it for a while. The athletic, he covered LeBron, his second stint with the Cavalier. He is joining us. He's been quarantined. He's in that NBA bubble in Orlando via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So we got ourselves a story this morning. You, and I think Shams Sharanya now, have broken a story. Zion has left the bubble. Joe, tell us what you know. Okay. So the Pelicans did announce that Zion Williamson left the bubble to rush home to attend to a family medical emergency. Okay. What Shon is.

Tom's and I are reporting is that earlier this week at practice, Zion actually suffered some leg cramps to the point where he was being attended to on the sidelines and had to miss portions of practice. Sources insists that he's okay and that the injury is not why he has left the team. But it's worth noting, Colin, that the NBA has already done this once. They set up their whole TV schedule for the entire year, basically to feature Zion. and he ended up having that meniscus injury and surgery right before the start of the season and it totally wrecked the TV schedule.

The Pelicans are again the opening night game on TNT for the NBA restart, and there's real question if he'll be able to play in that. Wow. Yeah, that's really interesting. So life in the bubble, Dwight Howard says somebody snitched on him. Mostly he was on his Instagram talking, his social media platform. is the snitch line getting a lot of discussion among players and executives? Yeah, I think it is.

You know, I've been texting with some players and coaches asking them, you know, if they have used it or what they think of it. And I usually get the same text, something along the lines of snitches get stitches. I reported this morning that they are using the line, but it's mostly for minor infractions. Like, hey, so-and-so is not wearing a mask or, hey, I saw these couple of guys. walking within six feet of each other. And listen, out in society, that those are not minor infractions. But here in the bubble, I mean, these players are already going to be in close proximity

on the court, and they are tested every day. They almost surely don't have the virus. So mask wearing and walking closer than six feet, while wise isn't necessarily the thing. The big infractions would be leaving campus or breaking quarantine, which is what Cabolo and then Rishon Holmes did. And they earned themselves 10-day stints in quarantine

by doing that. You know, it's interesting. So the UFC, they move their entire operations to an island. But UFC fighters don't mostly make a lot of money. It's run by Dana White. They don't have the power or the leverage. NBA players

are highly compensated. Some have already grumbled about the bubble, being away from family, the food, the quality of hotel rooms, to different sensibility to other sports. I do wonder about the fatigue, the attrition of the food and the staying and the isolation. I mean, when you talk to people, it's early. But is there some frustration? I mean, I'm crossing my fingers, Joe, and all this stuff that, I mean, we just need sports in America. How do you think it's going so far? Your general feel on the bubble and the

new life they're living? Well, I think there's a couple of different facets to this question. It's a great question. The bubble itself so far is going wonderfully and so far as it was the design is working. Okay. The way they set this whole thing up was to catch each and every last positive test before players, coaches, staff members, or even us, media, were able to walk free on campus. And that has happened. That has absolutely happened.

Every single positive test you've heard about in the NBA was caught before any one of these players was out practicing and in the community. So there has been no spread. There has been no disease that's got in here so far. That's great. The food issue, it's, I mean, I wrote about this. I'm living it now. When the players were in quarantine, and it was only for 36 hours, they were fed basically by the Disney staff on site.

And with that food, there isn't really any choice and also, or insofar as you can't order what you want. and they have to give it to you without also giving you COVID. So, you know, you have to package the sandwiches and the fruit a certain way. And, you know, it has to be sterile. There are no plates. There are no forks and knives that are made of steel. And so basically what that leads to is an aesthetic problem.

The food looks much, much, much worse than it tastes. Okay. So the food issue has been solved. The players are out of quarantine. They can now go to Morton's if they want. There's a list of restaurants that they can order from. And then also their food being cooked by the hotel. It's a different experience.

It's better. They also flew in a world-class executive chef from Michigan. He used to work at Disney. He is still the Team USA basketball chef. I think his name is Sean Long, I believe. And he, yeah, I mean, he's great. And so they're going to continually add to that. The last thing, though, is you're right, the idea about downtime and family.

You know, I think the guys with family and with kids, I think that part is wearing on them a little. But overall, I think so far the mood is okay. I think people are happy to be back playing basketball. They're enjoying sort of the college freshman year, dorm room. You know, because listen, your freshman year, you're not running around with girls anyway. They're not paying attention to you. It's soccer. So, listen.

You know, they're playing their video games. and golfing and and it's it's fine talk to me again in mid-August once we're into the you know the regular season's over we're waiting for the playoffs to start temper tempers might begin to flare a little bit but then at that point you can start to smell a championship so you know hopefully kind of the newness of each level of this like when we start playing games at the end of this month and then when the playoffs start in late august then you get into the conference finals like hopefully all of that will keep this fresh enough that everybody hangs on and follows the loose. Listen, when Michael Jordan was the best player in the league,

he had a great relationship with David Stern, and there was a sense David Falk, Michael, and David Stern largely ran the league. Fair or not, I wouldn't even have a problem with it. LeBron has a relationship with Adam Silver, and as LeBron goes, the league follows. I don't have a problem with it. Now he's Bradley's out. Thank goodness, Dwight Howard said he'll play.

those out. Let's just do a Laker update. What do you hear about LeBron? He looks to be. I've watched every shred of video on the air and off on LeBron James. He looks to be an unbelievable shape, which doesn't surprise me at all. What do you hear about the Lakers right now? Yeah, I actually asked Frank Vogel this morning just kind of messing around like how's LeBron look in practice. And Frank was just raving about him, about how good he looks, how in command he is, which, you know, when was the last time someone said LeBron look lousy in practice? Probably never. But, you know, I think that does matter because he is 35. This is an entirely unique circumstance. And as you said, I mean, not only the Lakers go as he goes, but the league goes as he goes.

And so he has come here certainly with a business mindset. And he's going to need it. You know, he never probably faced the kind of odds against him in the playoffs, quite like he faced in the 2018 finals against the Warrior. years. And yeah, the Cavs end up getting swept, but not before he had that 51-point game in game one, and the Cavs had it won. You know, George Hill missed the free throw and JR forgot the score when it went into overtime. They should have won that game. LeBron would not have punched the wall. It might have been a different series. And I'm just, I bring all that up because I do feel like the Lakers, despite a wonderful regular season, wonderful. I think they're at a disadvantage now. I think the clippers are deeper. I think they're tougher.

They're certainly healthier. And so LeBron, I mean, he's missing a couple pieces here. And it's going to be a little bit of an uphill battle as they get deeper into the playoffs. The athletic senior NBA guy, Joe Varden, we talked to him, introduced to him years ago. He just does terrific work. Check him out on social media as well. Joe in a darkened hotel room that looks comfortable. No complaining. It looks very comfortable. We appreciate you stopping by the show. Oh, I loved it. Thanks for having me, Colin. All right, Joe Varden, good stuff. Yeah, I mean, I think it is being away from your family initially is fun. It's like anything. And then over the course of five weeks, six weeks, seven weeks, if you're not winning games,

I think the presentation of the quality of basketball may be a little off. I think the presentation will be good. I've been blown away by the quality of the presentation, a UFC, NASCAR, MLS, golf. I think it's been great. I really do. I think the networks have figured it out. Listen, you know, the people that complain, well, MLS has put crowd noise in. Newspaper critics.

Television's a production. I got makeup on. We have hair people. We have like, you know, wardrobe people. Television's a production. We're trying to produce the best-looking TV. If you got to pipe in a little noise, that's what you do. This is not a newspaper.

This is not what this is. This is not a radio network. These leagues are on television and you have a television. and you have a television production to elevate the quality. The lighting, the advertisements. MLS, by the way, has these big open boards where they put advertising, virtual advertising, all over the stadium. It's not really in the stadium.

It's blank boards. So that's being produced. And I think it's a really, really good look. But I see some of these critics and, oh, they're piping in. Sports is better with ambiance. Restaurants are better with ambiance. When's the last time you walk? with your wife, a girlfriend, whatever, you're down the street.

And you said, oh, there's nobody in that bar. It looks empty. Let's go in here. You walk by a bar and you're like, oh, it looks like there's a little action. There's people there. There's a little ambience, a little fun to it, little energy to it. You're just adding energy to a game where we can't, because of COVID, have fans. Of course, you're going to make it subtle.

You know, MLS first game, it's like a little, I'm getting a little bit too much crowd. I want to hear the announcers more and the crowd a little less. And they tweak, tweak, tweak, tweak, tweak, ambience is production. is defines television. I think the networks, all of them, have done a great job. I really do. I think this network, they've all done a great job. John Goulet with the news.

No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Yesterday, the Browns and pass wrestler Miles Garrett agreed to a five-year, $125 million extension. A lot of dough for a defensive player. Yes, most, the biggest contract ever for a defensive player. Oh, okay. And maybe more importantly, 100 million of that was guaranteed.

Now, you remember, Garrett was suspended last season for his altercation with Mason Rudolph when he hit him in the head with his own helmet. He was basically suspended six games as what it ended up being. He also did get fined a couple times for late hits on quarterbacks, which has been part of his MO. Should the Browns be a little weary of guaranteeing that much money to a guy that's, it's weird, off the field, he's great. He has some on-field anger issues, apparently. Well, I mean, you're playing an incredibly violent position, pass rusher, and intimidation. Lawrence Taylor, it's like the Mike Tyson quality. Part of what made Lawrence Taylor great.

You could hear his footsteps before you could hear his footsteps. Yeah. And I think Miles Garrett is intimidating. I don't think it's the end of the world if you get, you know, a half dozen slightly late-hit penalties. I think intimidation is part of what you're trying to do to do. opposing quarterbacks. The helmet thing was egregious. He should have been suspended. He was. He should have been fined. I'm not going to judge him on that. But I think great defensive player. Kaleel Mack's intimidating. If he rubs your shoulder in the ground, if it's a little late,

occasionally first quarter, make a statement. I don't want my offensive linemen getting penalties and taking my quarterback backwards. But I think intimidation is part of the game. Well, I mean, I think Mark Dominic brought it up earlier that you can have some offset language where if he has another incident and he gets suspended for a long time, maybe it changes some of the guarantees. You can easily put that in there and he'll understand it. But in 10 games last year, he had 10 sacks. Oh, no, he's a sack of game guy. Fox bed has his over under for sacks in 2020 at 14 and a half, which is second most in the league behind only Chandler Jones. Yeah, I mean, that's where he is.

I mean, he's almost a sack of game guy. That's worth the money. A sack of game pass rusher? It's absolutely worth it. All right, this is either going to make you mad or very excited. Trey Lance is the quarterback for North Dakota State. Most people haven't seen him. He is making the 2021 quarterback draft class, kind of a three-quarterback class instead of two.

Last season, he threw 28 touchdowns and zero interceptions. Yeah, I know. NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah did a scatter report on Lance, and he compared him to one of your favorite quarterbacks of all time, Andrew Locke. That was his who he reminds him of. that I know luck is a little bit bigger, but they are similar athletes and both played with a maturity beyond their age at the collegiate level.

More than anything else, these are two guys who exude confidence on the field. They are fearless, but they avoid being reckless. Luck was on his way to a Hall of Fame career before shocking the football world and retiring a year ago. I don't quite have the same grade on Lance, but he could get there with continued growth and development. Well, if you watch him play, and that quality of football they play is not bad football by any stretch. They dominate that division of football.

And that's for people who don't know, that's where Carson Wentz also went. Yeah, I don't think he's Andrew Luck yet. Jeremiah is acknowledging he's not there yet. But all I've seen is the three minutes of video we're showing of him. This is all I've seen of him. He totally jumps off the tape. He is a force. He only played one year so far.

Yeah, I mean, some guys just jump off the tape. He, to me, jumps off the tape more than Jordan Love. In terms of explosive running, in terms of kind of the weight, arm strength. I mean, you can't watch that kid and not be impressed with the 93 minutes of tape I've seen. So I'm going to watch him. I mean, if they play, I'm going to watch them this year.

But it doesn't, listen, everybody's getting better. I mean, Andrew Luck, again, eight years ago, or whatever it was, was great. But, I mean, we used to think John Elway was unbelievable. There are guys now that can run circles around John athletically. So every eight to 10 years, it always feels like there's a generation of, athletes that are bigger arms,

a little quicker, a little better. It doesn't, doesn't bother me. I'm telling you, you watch his YouTube stuff. It's like, wow. Yeah, the idea that, well, he should dominate because he's at a lower level of college football. He does. He does. I mean, 28 TDs, no picks.

I don't care if you're playing against high schoolers. 28 touchdowns, no picks is, that's amazing. And finally, we have some potential, huge breaking news. It appears Aaron Rogers and Danica Patrick may have split up. I know you're devastated. Danica Patrick unfollow Aaron Rogers on Instagram. She unfollowed him on Instagram. Who follows this?

And hasn't posted any pictures with him since April. Oh, my. Rogers still follows her. Can't believe I'm saying this. But he hasn't posted any pictures of the two of them since March. I thought they bought a house in Malibu together. I definitely remember seeing. I'm not a big gossip guy, but that I remember seeing.

I wish I was... Houses in Malibu, not cheap. There's no small condo you can buy. What is Perez Hilton say on this? I don't have their... official report. Can I just say this? And I'm not into this whole gossip thing, but not surprising.

I'll leave it at that. They bought a Malibu house in December, someone just said in my ear. Together. Yes, together. Well, now they're going to sell it together. So if you need a house in Malibu, there's probably a very big one. I guess we'll know, right? If we see that on Zillow, then we'll know that there's... I'm just going to say,

I've said this off the air to people, not surprised, and I'm not going to have any judgment or comment beyond that. I will at a later date have inside information. Right now I wish them both well. I'm not surprised. Wait, you have inside information?

I do. You're planning on getting some for a later date. I have, I wish them both well. I am not surprised by the breakup. Very political. I'm a journalist. I can't just throw crap out there.

This is not like makeup stuff you see on the interweb. You've got a real journalist here. Will you hold this against Aaron Rogers? No. Okay. And that, thank you. for asking that question. I'm going to side with Aaron Rogers on this. Did I leak anything?

I'm siding with... I mean, it's kind of a tell. I wouldn't say you leaked anything. I'm siding with Aaron Rogers on this. And that's all I'm going to talk about. All right. John with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. There's also supposed to be some big story. Washington Post is going to hammer Dan Snyder and the football operation there. I got... I'm hearing. I've got two texts today from people.

I'm not going to speculate. I think Snyder's in a short list of very bad professional sports owners in America. I think he's very bad. He's all the things I don't like. Meddling, rigid, thinks he knows more about football than he does. All the things I don't like about owners, Dan Snyder, is those things. So the Washington Post is going to land some sort of big disruptive story on Washington. And there's a story out today that the owners of Washington, the other, the minority owners,

the smaller stake, they may own 5%, 8%, 10%, whatever they own. They're all looking to sell their piece of the franchise. So Dan Snyder is, I mean, I don't know if he's James Dolan bad, certainly not Donald Sterling, but he's bad. And that franchise and those fans deserve way better because that's an incredible fan base. Jason McIntyre is coming up next. Are you okay with feeling older? Neither am I.

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Good to have you in. Mark Dominic, former Buccaneer GM today. Mike Fisher wearing a cowboy hat on the Dak Prescott deal. Rob Parker. Joe Varden just joined us from the bubble in Orlando. I've been to Orlando a lot of times. Goulet, you've been to Orlando. Disney Whirl? I think I've been there about seven, eight times.

I've been there. Yeah, it's hot. It's hot in the summer. My kids love it. Jason McIntyre, formerly of the big lead, he left. It's never been the same there. Fox Sports, Fox Sports Radio, podcast stuff via the Cowher Global Satellite Network. All right, here's McIntyre. So, first of all, we're having

as good a summer as we could have. Regardless, I watched the UFC last night. I watched MLS. We got a little sports, right? We got baseball this weekend, right? We got golf this weekend, Tiger Woods, NBA, two weeks from today, let's not talk about college football, but the NFL. I mean, how often when we talk on the phone does the NFL come up?

Pretty much every single time, right? Right. So I feel good. So we call it tomorrow's headlines today. Mr. Prediction, he's very accurate. What's the headline going to be for the Browns this year after extending Miles Garrett with that big money deal? Yeah, we've been very excited about your buddy, Baker Mayfield. I know you guys have that romance dating back to last season. The Brown's headline will be miles ahead of the competition.

I love this signing, Colin. When you look at the pass rushers, last 15 years, in their first three years in the league, he's fourth in sacks. He was utterly dominant, Colin, in 2018, top seven quarterback hits, quarterback sacks, I mean, pressures. This guy is an absolute monster. Now, if the Browns can only get their secondary fixed, right? they got three of four new starters in the secondary this year. I firmly believe this is a playoff team. I know everybody was on board last year.

I think you and I were on that island saying, now poke the brakes on the Browns. Colin, this year, I am a bandwagon Browns guy. I think they're going to the playoffs. Yeah, totally agree with you. I think their schedule is easier. I think they have a better coach. I think they solved their offensive line.

Their offensive line went from a liability to, I think, now, a unit of strength. Both tackles, they've got a pro bowl level center and guard. so I'm with you. I think the Browns are a real team. Tomorrow's headlines today. What's it going to be the headline for the Titans this year after giving Derek Henry a new deal? How about that run they had to the AFC title game?

It was almost like my Jets when they went there back to back with Mark Sanchez. But like my Jets, it won't last. The headline will be, don't remember the Titans, an awesome sports movie. By the way, I showed this to my kids recently. Remember the Titans? They loved it. A little dad-life tip for it.

everybody out there. But I don't love this giving Ryan Tannahill $62 million, giving Derek Henry $25 million guaranteed. This is a team that, let's face it, Colin, they got lucky last year. And to give a guy like Derek Henry, who had an outstanding season, but he also had over 300 carries, you know that the running backs, you pay them, they're worn down. Look at Todd Gurley. Look at Devante Freeman. You know, David Johnson and Arizona, on down the list. As soon as you pay these guys, the wear and tear shows up. Derek Henry, he almost had 400 carries in his final season at Alabama. They just run these guys into the ground.

Don't like the deal. Don't like the Titans this year. Yeah, what a franchise tag Tanna Hill. I like Henry. But Zeke, by the way, is another back that his yards per game have gone down four straight years. All right. Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline going to be for the Cowboys this year

after not getting a deal done with Dak? How about that 48 hours for Jerry Jones, right? No deal for DAC. And now Ezekiel Elliott is spending all day today on Twitter, just bemoaning the fact that people don't love him. Oh, boy. The headline will be Dax last rodeo. Listen, I know Nick Wright came on and said some stuff about DAC.

I agree with a lot of it. Not all of it. I don't believe in the Cowboys next year, Colin. Listen, new head coach, new defensive coordinator, new center, new lead defensive end, new number one cornerback. They might throw a rookie at cornerback. Nothing to me is adding up for the Cowboys. And Dak Prescott, listen, Colin, they could throw you.

I remember how you told me about your great high school quarterback years? Yeah, yeah. Okay, in Washington. If you go out there behind that line, handing off to Zeke, throwing to one of the best receiving cores in the league, you would have success. Okay. The fact that they missed the playoffs last year is an embarrassment. I think it's starting to look bad for DAC in Dallas.

Yeah. Their offensive lines aging. That's a real issue. It is. They lost their Hall of Fame. Center and Tyron Smith gets hurt more. All right, finally, tomorrow's headlines today. What's the headline going to be for the team?

Dak plays for a year from now. Sticking with the Dallas Cowboys and Dak, this may blow your mind. The headline will be Mr. Prescott goes to Washington. How about Dak Prescott staying in the division, sticking it to Jerry Jones? Hey man, you didn't want to pay me? You know who does. This guy, Daniel Snyder, now remember, Daniel Snyder did this with Kirk Cousins. He was like, we're going to franchise tag. We don't believe. We franchise tag. We lose it. Since they lost Kirk Cousins, 10 wins, 22 losses. I know they had the Alex Smith injury that nobody could have foreseen. This is not a knock on Dwayne Haskins. But if Dak Prescott wants revenge, how sweet would it be going to the nation's capital, reviving a, which was once a great. franchise. Washington was awesome in the 80s. People forget that. Even in the 90s, they were very good. And DAC goes to Washington and leads them back to greatness. I think that would be an amazing storyline for the NFL. Good stuff. Nice job. I like the Colts, by the way. The Colts pay three

players. Two of them are Phillip Rivers and Jacoby Brissette. Think about this. Those contracts run up at the end of the year. They're combined for 46 million. They go. You pay DAC 36 million. That gives you 10 million more to play around with. Okay. And Best Young O'Line, and if Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin, who I love, if he pops, they've got two legitimate running backs, T.Y. Hilton, Best Young O. Line. Frank Reich, like Jason Garrett's a former NFL quarterback, are the Colts, the new Cowboys. I don't know.

I just think they're the one team that's got next year. We'll have $35 million to pay a quarterback, and it won't, you know, dislodge their momentum. So that's interesting. My only pushback on that is we both believe the Colts, Colin, are going to be excellent next year. So if Rivers thrives behind that offensive line with the weapons, the running back, I don't see them moving on from him. Remember, this is a guy who started 14 straight seasons. No games missed. Rivers can go back there as long as he's not turning it over.

I like the Colts a lot this year. I don't know that they'd move on from him for Dak Prescott. I think they would, but it's interesting. Jason McIntyre, best of you and your fam. Thanks, ma'am. All right, buddy. You bet. Enjoy the weekend. All sorts of stuff today.

So speak for yourself, took the week off. The fellas getting rejuvenated. We are getting sports. Tip of the cap to UFC. They continue to kick butt during the COVID. Kick of the tip of the cap to NASCAR. They're doing a great job. Golf events this weekend.

By the way, that golf event started today. I'm on the air. I can't watch it. The golf event today, that's going to have Tiger, Rory, Kepka. Tiger was minus two last I checked. He was doing pretty well. How's Bryson? The leader's only at minus four.

How's Bryson, Deschambo? He was plus one last time I saw. His first drive of the day was 430 yards. Yes. Think about that. But the scores have been, the course has been playing tough. The scores have been bad. Scores have been bad.

So Tigers, two under. Tiger's only two off the lead. Who's leading? No one I'd heard of. All right. The big sticks aren't leading. Tiger, Dustin Johnson, Brooks Kepka, and Bryson DeShambeau.

Brendan Steele is the leader. Who is it? Exactly. Brendan Steele? sounds like a pro wrestler. The way these guys are hitting it off the tee, could be a pro wrestler. Everybody now is 350.

All right, nice job. We will see. I'll see you Tuesday. Going to take a little break with the family. Thanks so much for joining us. Doug Gottlieb and I imagine tomorrow on Monday. It's the hurt. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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