The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Dak Prescott, Myles Garrett, Jamal Adams, NBA bubble, NCAAFB

Episode Date: July 15, 2020

Colin explains why Dak Prescott isn't getting the contract he wants, the Browns extending Myles Garrett, the Jets not spending to keep Jamal Adams, the snitch line for the NBA bubble, and the possibility of college players opting to not play if there is a Spring season. Guests include Nick Wright, Howard Beck, Clarence Hill, and Dave Wannstedt. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Nice to have you in. Nick Wright this hour. next hour we'll go and get inside the NBA bubble again. I'm kind of getting excited about this. I'm starting to see more optimism. James Harden showed up, the beard. Players are starting to say they're playing pretty well. They're all back into it.

Why don't you give guys basketballs? Let them sweat, let them run around. Everybody's like, okay, we're getting close. This is going to be fun. Joy Taylor's joining me. Joy, how are you? I'm great. Happy DAC Day.

It is DAC Day. The story that would never end will end by the end of our show. I am fatigued on. So it's really important. Let me start with this. When I was a young broadcaster, I was very fortunate. And I worked hard and everything, blah, blah, blah. But in more than one spot in my life, local, national, syndicated, non-sindicated,

I had a kingmaker. I had somebody with power and leverage that liked my work. And it made it a lot easier, a lot easier. Like, I think I've been, you know, I've earned some of the stuff and I've worked hard and I'm not going to be falsely humble here. I'm pretty good. But the point is, when you're young, it really helps to have somebody bang on the table for you. Somebody that gets into meeting rooms that I don't get into. Somebody that gets into corner offices, I can now get into, I didn't get into.

Somebody to bang on the table and say, she's really good. He's really good. you got to give them a second listen. They deserve that job. Well, they're not qualified. You got to give them that job. I don't know if they're, I know. Go for it.

Kingmakers. I had a couple. It's why I'm here. Here's the thing about that Prescott. Mike McCarthy's the coach of the Cowboys now. He's a Super Bowl winning head coach. So how much influence does he have in Dallas? Well, we know the story on Jerry.

But he's got some influence, right? I mean, hell, Matt LaFluor, Green Bay has influence. We could tell that by the draft. So if Matt Lafleur has some influence, Mike's got some. I don't think Mike's banging on the table for DAC. Does it mean he doesn't like him? Does it mean this year he doesn't want him?

But Mike didn't call Dak for like a longer than you'd expect time after getting the job. That's weird. Mike worked with Farvin Rogers. When you go from a Mercedes to a Honda Accord, nothing against Honda Accord. It is different. And Mike McCarthy now has something he has never had. An owner and a wheeler dealer owner. I don't think Mike McCarthy is going in and slamming his fist on the table for DAC.

That does not mean he doesn't like him. But I think Mike McCarthy is saying what a lot of people are saying. Listen, this offensive line, Amari, Michael Gallup, C.D. Lamb, Zeke, I didn't have anything like that in Green Bay, and I won a Super Bowl. I didn't have anything close to Dallas's offensive line, close to Zeke, close to this wide receiving core. I'm an offensive coach. I can win here with Dak. I can win without him.

Do we want to get locked into it? doesn't mean he doesn't like him. But when you're young and it's one of those go-either-way situations, man, I had a couple people that banged on that table for me. My dad used to always say this. Most of your employment decisions will be made when you're not in the room. Be nice to people, right? And sometimes even that's not enough.

They don't want to pay yet. They got somebody else in mind. is that, and I've said this before, the key to Dach could be Dwayne Haskins. If Dwayne Haskins works in Washington, and I think it's 50-50, I liked him out of college. I really did. Last year, some stuff I didn't like.

Selfie during a game, not a big fan of. But if it works, and I think it's a coin flip, you're going to have seven or eight quarterbacks available next year. Cam could be available, Derek Carr could be available, three high-end college quarterbacks could be available. And you've got about four teams that need a quarterback. I mean, you have Andy Dalton. I don't think that's the answer.

I just wonder if McCarthy was banging on that table, would the deal be done? And I'm not saying McCarthy doesn't like him, but you can't tell me he doesn't have some influence. If Matt LaFleur's got some, Mike doesn't have any with a Super Bowl ring? things to talk about wouldn't be shocked if DEC did sign a deal and it's been a game of chicken, so to speak.

But I think today it's going to be a franchise tag. All right, this story came down. Joy, did it come down? I think it came down at the very end of the show. Or was it right after the show? The Miles Garrett story. Miles Garrett, it was right after the show. Okay, so the show ended.

Yeah. And it just ended. Yes. And so you and I talked about, about it for a second, right? Yeah, we were leaving work. Okay. And Goulet, let us know. Okay. So the Cleveland Browns finalized another contract yesterday. They will now pay Miles Garrett $125 million five years. Okay. Miles Garrett's very good and he deserves a lot of money. Quarterbacks, left tackles, pass rushers. Not a lot of arguments with me. He, he, he

is really good. He is really, really, really good. I know there was the incident. I got me honest with you. That doesn't define him. He's really good. You don't let Miles Garrett go. But here's the point. The Cleveland Browns, because Baker Mayfield's on a rookie contract, I know he was the number one pick rookie contract. The Cleveland Browns are paying these players, $10 million or more a year. Miles Garrett, Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, Jack Conklin, Sheldon Richardson, Olivier Vernon, J.C. Treter, good center. Austin Hooper, good tied in. And Joel Betonio, he's a very good guard.

The Jets are paying two people over 10 million. C.J. Mosley and Levian Bell. And the Jets are like, we can't afford Jamal Adams. Wait a minute. You have a quarterback in a rookie contract. And your rookie quarterback was taken after Baker, so he makes less. And you can't pay Jamal Adams. So what's my point?

I think Sam Donald's really good. I don't think he's Mahomes special, but I think he's really good. And I think Baker Mayfield's overrated. But if you don't think front offices and GMs and some coaches don't dictate your success, this is unbelievable. The Jets a year ago had a pro bowl kicker. and a pro bowl kick returner. The kick returner was Andre Roberts.

He was a pro bowl kick returner. Jets were like, we can't afford him. He signed for two years and $4 million. Their kick returning unit went downhill after he left. They had a kicker Jason Myers. Pro bowl kicker. Jets were like, can't afford him. It's very expensive.

Seattle got him. Four million a year. Less than that. The Jets kicking unit went into the tank and their kick return unit eroded. They pay two guys. Now Cleveland's paying 10 and the Jets can't pay Jamal Adams. Is somebody using the Dewey Decimal System and somebody's not? Or the commas ending up in the wrong place?

Is this a Swiss bank? I know what you're saying. You just don't like Baker. No, no. I don't like Baker as much as you do in Cleveland, but I think he can play. But this is the difference. And as much as I love Mahomes, Mahomes has a great coach and a great GM. Or he's just really talented, not getting to the playoffs.

Mahomes ain't getting there by himself. This, and what's more disturbing is the Jets, despite only paying two people, don't have a single unit on their entire team outside of maybe safety. You'd be like, oh, that's a really good unit. The Browns now have an elite wide receiving unit, an elite tight-end unit, an elite running back unit. I would argue if the rookie pops too high-end tackle. and their offensive line this year has a chance to be a top 10 offensive line.

Center guard and one of the tackle spots, I know we're above average. If the rookies as good as I think, that's a top eight offensive line. And they also have a better than average defensive line. And so, again, what does it all mean? As much as I like Sam Darnold, he is not Andrew Luck. He is not Mahalms. He is not a once-in-a-decade quarterback talent. Andrew Luck was good enough to overcome a bad front office to a point.

Then he had to retire early. As much as I love Sam Darnold, I don't think he's going to have nearly the year of Baker Mayfield this year. And it won't be an excuse. I've said this before. An excuse is the dog ate my homework. A reason is the school bus got teaboned on the way to school. That's why I'm late. this is not an excuse.

The New York Jets couldn't keep pro bowl kickers and kick returners won't pay Jamal Adams. Still, the money, they don't have an elite unit. And Cleveland signs, and good for Cleveland, because he's a really, really good football player, Cleveland signs Miles Garrett to $125 million. They're paying Landry, they're paying their tackle,

they're paying their tight end. They're paying O'Dell Beckham. They're paying. Sheldon Richardson. It's incredible. I mean, it's, you know, I always feel lucky that outside of my first job, which you just, you know, kind of take what you can take, even then I had choices. When I got out of college, I had three offers out of college, and I took Las Vegas because it was better than Midland, Texas, and Spokane, Washington. It was a better job.

I had choices. This is why I feel bad for pro athletes and why I always support players moving. I support Kevin Durant moving. I didn't like his last move, but I supported him in his previous move. Can you imagine working so hard your whole life? I mean, you just think about this. Forget the money. Everybody always goes, well, the players make a lot of money.

You work your whole life. You dedicate yourself to basketball or football your whole life. And your reward for being great as you go to the worst operation, the worst owner and the worst GM. You know, when Kevin Durant left, that was laughed when Kevin Durant left. He shows no loyalty. Kevin Durant went to Seattle. The owner said, I'm buying the team, I'll never leave it.

And the owner moved to Oklahoma City. You think maybe he thought, this loyalty thing I'm not so sure of. They had James Hardin. The general manager's like, yeah, let's get an end table for James Hardin, send him to Houston. Do you think Kevin Durant at one point went, you know, I'm looking at the loyalty. loyalty thing. I'm not really sure I buy into it. And you're crushing him on loyalty. By the way, an owner can make money forever. A GM can make money forever. A player's got about eight years to make it. So as much as I love Donald and as sometimes Baker, I think, is overrated, Baker's going to have a

much better year. He's going to have a much better year. The Browns are a much better team with multiple elite units and Sam Donald will be bailing water and probably won't even get Jamal Adams. Because if the kick returner and the kicker were too expensive forget Jamal Adams. Forget Jamal Adams. All right. It's a simple question with that, I think. If I ran a team, it's a simple question with that. We'll talk about that next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying,

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a franchise tag. With quarterback, it's always kind of simple to me. Because most people in this league want to win Super Bowls. Like, right, you're trying to get, you're trying to get the bar, the baton. You want the big thing. Is your quarterback good enough to win a Super Bowl? Now, on its face, you think there's a bunch of people can do that. But to win a Super Bowl, remember, you have to win multiple games against Hall of Fame

coaches and Hall of Fame quarterbacks. You're going to have to get through Andy Reid's, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson's, Deshawn Watson's, Russell Wilson's, Aaron Rogers. You're going to have to get through a Pete Carroll, a John Harbaugh, a Sean Payton and Andy Reid, guys like Mike Zimmer who may not get to the Hall of Fame but are very good football coaches. Do you have the ability to beat a Hall of Fame quarterback, to beat a Hall of Fame coach in his schemes, to go on the road multiple times to win? Now, people always throw out this. Well, I mean, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilford, time out. The game has changed. You cannot play defense like that anymore.

You cannot have a defense that can grab people, hit late, intimidate. That doesn't work that way. The game has changed. There are no 17-14 Super Bowls. I mean, throw that off. You're going to have to win an occasional shootout. And then the other thing is, what about Nick Foles? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Timeout Nick Foles. Carson Wentz, who is good enough to win a Super Bowl, got him home field advantage before he got hurt. Nick Foles has never started more than eight games. That's his career average. Never started more than eight games in a season in his career. Just because Carson Wentz gets you home field advantage and you win a singular shootout against that's not the floor. To win a Super Bowl, do you have a quarterback that can play 15 or 16 games,

get you home field advantage if he doesn't beat a Hall of Fame coach, a Hall of Fame quarterback talent on the road and win shootouts? Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Matt Ryan are the floor. They haven't won, but they've gotten real close. And I've seen Goff out-dull Breeze in New Orleans and out-dull Mahomes in Los Angeles on the right night. I've seen Matt Ryan out-dull Aaron Rogers. Go look at Matt Ryan's Super Bowl year. Look at those playoff numbers when he got to the Super Bowl.

I mean, those numbers were by Matt Ryan. I've seen that. The question is, Dak good enough to win a Super Bowl. And that's where I'm like, no, I don't think so. I don't think he is. So what is the investment? I'll give you an example. This stuff matters.

It's not that you win, it's who you beat. A lot of Mountain West football teams win a lot of games, who they beat. I look at schedules. DAC has had one huge break. He didn't go into a tough division. Washington and the New York Giants have been tire fires since he entered the division. DAC is 13 and 3 against Washington and New York, 30 touchdowns 4 picks, a passer rating of 105. Against everybody else, you know the everybody else which has Hall of Fame coaches.

Not all of them, but Hall of Fame quarterbacks. 27, 21, 67 touchdowns, 32 picks. Passer rating's good, not special, 94. To me, there's only 11 guys in this league that I think, can get into, you know, can get into shootouts with great quarterbacks and win. Can face a Belichick, a Pete Carroll, Andy, Reid, Sean Payton, and win and be beyond the schemes that can go on the road multiple times and beat those guys. And here's my 11.

This is it. Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Russell, Wilson, Aaron Rogers, Wence, Brady, Breeze, and they're getting old, Gough, Ryan Garoppolo, and Deshawn Watson. Kirk Cousins, I don't see him beating Hall of Fame quarterbacks on the road two and three times. I don't see that. Josh Allen, come on, let's slow down. That right now is a coaching and a defense story,

not a Josh Allen story. That's it. These are the guys. Now, I know, Gough Garoppolo and Matt Ryan, you're going to push back. But I've seen him do it. I've seen him go on the road. I've seen him win multiple playoff games.

I've seen him get to a Super Bowl. I've seen him be a playaway. If you're a playaway, a throw away from winning the Super Bowl, then you're good enough. You know, if you get nominated for an Oscar with five other great actors, and you don't win, you're good enough to win an Oscar. If you get to a Super Bowl and it's a close game in the fourth quarter,

you're good enough to win. I don't think that's in that group. I think there's 11 guys. That's it. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. The dolphins were confident enough into his health to draft him fifth overall this year

despite the hip injury. And while he is poised to be the future, of the franchise. Brian Flores still needs to see two on the field before he makes a decision about him starting right away. He said he was examines, but examines and then doing a two-hour practice and playing in a game, there's a process to all those things. As far as whether or not he can or can't do something would be hard to say. My hopes don't get high or low until I see a guy in a huddle until I see a guy make it through multiple practices. It's hard to say we're going to do this, that, or the other thing at game speed. Please televise his practices. I would

I'm not, I'm not embellishing for TV purposes. If you put Tua practices on today, would you watch? Yes. Everybody. That was just such a, that was such a genuine, authentic plea for sports. Please televise his practices. But I mean, there's a lot of practices. Yes.

I want to see. My theory is, Tua's going to be too special at practice. And after about three of them, the coaching staff's going to go in and go, guys, we got to start it. I don't know that I would watch everyone's practices right now. I wouldn't. But I would definitely watch. Dolphins practices. I would definitely watch Chargers practices. Cam. I would watch Cam. I would watch

the Bucks. I would watch the Bengals. Not just watch them. I'd sit there for an hour, open up a Corona. I'd watch for a while. Yeah, I would be, I would be interested in those. Oh, absolutely. It's been a long time since I've been to a training camp, but they're kind of fun. They are fun. Well, yeah, I mean, I've been to Steelers training camp, and I've been to Washington's training camp, and I've been to the Dolphins training camp many times. And my, my standout memory from all of them as they're very hot. Obviously, on television, they're way better. Yes, Dolphins being the most intense.

According to Fox bet, Ryan Fitzpatrick is minus 300 to be the starter. Week 1, too has odds at plus 250. It's looking, I mean, look, you can't make any predictions, obviously, is what Brian Flores is talking about until they actually get him in there and get him in a huddle and get him in camp. It's going to be impossible to predict whether he's going to start or not. So until we see that and see how he looks, we'll have a better idea. if he looks good, he's going to be the starter week one.

So it doesn't look like Derek Henry and the Titans will get a long-term deal done before the deadline today. Instead, he will be playing under the franchise tag in 2020, but Ryan Tanna Hill is still campaigning for Henry to get his big payday. I respect Derek. I love playing with Derek and think he, you know, played his tail off last year and should be paid. So, you know, anytime, you know, a teammate, you know, gets paid, that's something that, uh, you know, that I get excited about, especially a guy who work extremely hard and, you know, lays it on the line each and every week. So obviously, we'd love to see Derek get extended and, you know, be keeping an eye on that.

I'm not somebody that feels I should ever be forced to buy anybody, anything outside of my wife or kids. Ryan Tannihill owns he owes Derek Henry a Mercedes. At least. I mean, just listen. Hello. Hi, Ryan. at the car, I put a bow at yours. I got to go home.

No, I mean, I'm serious. This is one of these like, I agree. Derek Henry got Ryan Tannahill that contract. I think Ryan owes him that if he would have been paid after Derek Henry. Like, regardless in this situation, he owes him at least that. And maybe Derek's not into that. Maybe he wants like a range or, you know, something else.

Whatever. Maybe he's an outdoorsman. I don't know, but a very, very nice gift. I agree. his franchise tag is worth 10.278 million. Obviously, we know what he did last year. And in the playoffs, 83 carries 446 rushing yards and two touchdowns. He carried that team.

He's the face of the franchise. I don't understand why you, look, when you get into running back situations, there's situations where it's like, okay, they're not going to want to pay this guy. Running back's values go up and down depending on which way the wind blows every single year, right? Derek Henry, Ezekiel Elliott, they're just not those. guys. Right. I think Jamal Adams' safety, I wouldn't want to pay him a lot. He and Derwin James, I'm just going to pay whatever the market is. Derwin, James, and Jamal Adams literally blow up plays. You can play them at linebacker, safety. You can put him on the line. There are, even at

less valuable positions, superstars can't be duplicated. They can't. Christian McCaffrey could be a receiver in the NFL. Just pay him. And Derek Henry is absolutely the reason. And it's not Ryan Tannahill's fault they chose to pay him first, right? But that's that they should not. Like, Derek Henry should have gotten his deal done first. Finally, the NBA set up a hotline for those in Orlando to anonymously report bubble violations. We weren't really sure how this was going to go. I can spend two hours on this topic. It's amazing.

The league has reportedly already heard or received numerous tips. Some of those tips have resulted in players receiving warnings. So no one has been quarantines or suspended or anything yet. Some of the tips have bothered people around the league, though. Clippers guard, Lou Williams, posted a rat emoji on Twitter. In an interview with Taylor Rooks, a Bleacher Report, Nets Guard, Spencer Dinwiddie, who's sitting out for the restart because he tested positive, said to all my fellow NBA players, don't call the snitch hotline.

And two players have already broken the protocol. Kings Rishon Holmes said he accidentally left campus because he was going to receive a food delivery. Yeah. And Kuboko of Bruno Kuboko of the Rockets reportedly didn't. know he couldn't leave his room during the initial quarantine period upon arrival. So the thing about this hotline is it's, look, I'm not a snitch. We're not snitches as we've talked about many times.

I'm not really a snitch. Not a rat. But the interesting thing about this, and this is my question to begin with, how do you know that you're not snitching on someone else who's not real, who's, like he was like lurking near the line, but not really there? And then you call and snitch and then like, you know what I mean? And then they get suspended for however long or whatever. Like, can't you just can't you use this to your advantage? Okay, you and I are going to talk about this after Nick Wright.

This is a 15 minute topic. Okay. All right. Well, we'll talk more about this afternoon on Joy Chat as well on caffeine at 3.30 Eastern. But we'll talk about it after Nick Wright as well. And put this in Heard Line Hour 3. Okay. This is a 15 minute topic to me on snitching.

Joy with the News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Line News. I could have done a snitch show today. This topic is unbelievable to me on a million levels of snitching. Nick Wright, not a snitch. I don't see him as a snitch.

Nick's got just enough flaws that he's not going to snitch on people. He likes to gamble. Well, Nick, you know, he's also from Kansas City. They don't get down with snitching here. Kansas City's a mob town. You snitch, you end up in the back of a sedan. Via the Coward Global Satellite Network brought to you my Mercedes Ben's the best or nothing. You don't appear to be a snitch guy to me.

Because you've got enough faults and problems that you don't want to be snitched on. Oh, yeah, listen. I, first of all, exactly right. You are dead on, Colin. I'm a flawed, far from perfect, in fact, very imperfect human being. And I don't want people ratting on me. And you also, even if it was in less than delicate terms, I mean, you alluded to the fact that I'm Italian guy from Kansas City. I mean, I don't know if I'd call Kansas City a mob town, but, I mean, there were certain

establishments, maybe, you know, a few guys. And so yeah, I mean, deny, deny, deny is something you learn at a very young age. With that said, and like you said, you could do 20 minutes on it, I don't think this should be called the snitch hotline. I think it should be called the public health hotline to make sure LeBron can still get his fourth ring. So I am actually all in favor of people calling this hotline. I don't consider it snitching, but that's just me. I'm telling you, this is a segment for the ages right here. Okay, DAC, the outcome. I think he's going to franchise tagged. I think it's I think it's a kick the tires moment for Mike McCarthy. I've always thought it's the right thing to do. Your thoughts on what's going to transpire or not today.

Well, listen, he's going to get franchise tagged. And I believe that's going to end up with Dak Prescott playing for a different team in 2022. Wow. Because Dak Prescott rolled the dice when he had only made two million dollars in his entire NFL career last year and didn't take a long-term deal. He feels like he won. He rolled sevens. He's now rolling the dice again with when he's only made $4 million in his career. If he has the courage to do that, then what it would make sense to me is next year when he would have just made $31 million, when the tag is $38 million, that he will do it one more time and position himself to be the most sought after free agent in NFL history. The only thing that could come close to it is Peyton Manning, but he was coming off neck surgery.

Dak will be 28 years old and a true free and clear free agent. We saw what Kirk Cousins got. Dak is better than Kirk Cousins, even if it's just marginally, and he's more marketable. So I believe that Dak Prescott is going to play under the franchise tag this year and then do it again next year, and then it's going to be a full-blown auction for teams such as the Colts or the Steelers when Ben's gone or the Broncos when they realize you're a lot. Your guy, Drew Locke, stinks. Any of those teams say we got to finally get a quarterback, and Dax can end up becoming the richest player in NFL history. That's how I think this thing plays out.

By the way, I said when you're a young person, and I certainly had this break in my life. Young people need somebody, older person with power and leverage the bang on the table. And it's no, it's helped me in my career. I don't think McCarthy's banging on the table. I think he's had Favre. I think he's had Rogers. And I think he's saying to himself, you know, I don't want to get fired for a second time. Let's just kick the tires for a year.

What about my Mike McCarthy angle that it would. help if he was in there banging on the table for him, and I don't think he is. Yeah, and I agree with that. And I think the Cowboys, listen, they overpaid Amari Cooper, even if it's slightly, they overpaid him. They overpaid Zeke or certainly paid Zeke when they didn't have to. They overpaid DeMarcus Lawrence. They gave Jalen Smith a bucket of money, and they have three offensive linemen scheduled next year to make 10 million plus. That's seven guys on long-term deals making 10 to 20 million per year. When you do all that, when you haven't yet paid your quarterback,

and then your quarterback, I think, shocked you by saying a contract that would have made in Prima Holmes, the highest paid player in NFL history isn't good enough. I think all that plus the coach not standing on the table for him or banging the table. All of that, I think, has led us to this point, which is 18 months of negotiations with Jack Prescott and no contracts getting signed. By the way, Nick, I had a list of 11 guys that I think can win a Super Bowl as a quarterback. Now, I say, you got to be able to beat a Mahomes-level guy. You've got to be able to be a Hall of Fame coach.

You've got to be able to win on the road. You've got three good games back to back. You're not counting Nick Foles. He got home field from Wentz. These are my 11 guys. Mahalms, Jackson, Russell, Rogers, Wentz. Brady, Breeze are getting close to the end. Gough Ryan, Jimmy Garapolo were close enough.

If you get that close, if you get nominated for an Oscar, you can win an Oscar. And Deshawn Watson, you think I'm. missing one. Who? Yeah, well, I mean, if you get nominated for an Oscar, you can win an Oscar. So you're telling me, if you're in the Super Bowl with the ball down less than a touchdown, you should be on this list. So where's Cam Newton, Colin? I call you out for your Cam Newton blind spot once again. Where's Cam Newton? He was closer winning in Super Bowl than Jared damn golf. Let's tell you that much right now. Closer when, I mean, he had the ball, down six. Von Miller happened to take it from him.

He didn't dive on it. We all flipped out. Where's Cam Newton? Put Cam Newton on your list, Colin. If you're going to have Jared Gough, Jimmy Garoppolo on there, and old grandpa Tom Brady, then you've got to have Cameron J. Newton on there, sir. All right.

I didn't know. What's his middle name? What does Jay stand for? I just made up the J. I don't know. It just fit. I have no idea. That was just a shot to take a shot at me.

All right, I am flummoxed by the New York Jets Camp Bade Jamal Adams, but the Browns now have 10 guys. They're paying 10 million or more and they pay Miles Garrett, who I think deserves every penny. My point being, I love Sam Darnold. You can't overcome a ridiculous front office. Your take on this. Yeah, I think that this is one of the most unfair things about the NFL

is if you're a quarterback, unless you are a true one-one-percenter, so much of your success is going to be determined by where you're drafted. Now, it could have been worse for Darnold. He could have gotten the Josh Rosen treatment, I suppose. I still believe there's an alternate universe where Josh Rosen can play in the NFL, but he's never gotten the opportunity.

But, yeah, Donald ends up in a spot where the head coach, who seems to have the most power, seems to actively dislike you based on how talented you are. talented you are the less he wants you in the building. I don't understand it. My other takeaway, Colin, if I may for a moment on the Miles Garrett's side of this is, listen, Miles Garrett, the last time we saw him on the football field, he did something dumb. He conced Mason Rudolph on his head with the exact item that is designed to protect Mason Rudolph's head. It was a bad thing and he should have been suspended. That was the last time we saw him play football. In the 48 hours

after that, some of our media brethren had a collective connipion fit calling for the arrest and banishment of Miles Garrett. The Browns heard all that, saw all that he hasn't played a game since then. And they measured it all and said, how about we pay you more than any defensive player in the history of the league? Haven't seen you on the field since you've whacked Mason on the head. Take 125 million miles because you're that talented. So I just, I look back to the commentary in the days following that, what was it, Thursday night game or Monday night game, everyone had gone a little crazy for about 48 hours. I'm glad the Browns weren't part of that insanity. Well, yeah, Miles Garrett's career is not defined by that moment. All of us, myself included, have bad moments.

It doesn't define who he is. He's a really great player. Finally, so I came out and I brought, you know, in the NFL, I call it the Super Bowl bubble. And there's always about seven, eight teams, I think, when the playoffs start, based on some breaks, right quarterback, right coach going in Super Bowl. I've never felt that in the NBA. I think it's like two to three teams every year. Everybody else is a pretender. So I came out with my NBA championship bubble and I got Bucks, Clippers, Celtics in it. And Avery Bradley-Rondo gone. I took the Lakers out of it. Everybody else is on the fringes. And apparently you had a problem with this. I'm guessing it's LeBron. Colin, come on, man. Like, did you get conked on the head by Mason Rudolph's helmet?

You're going to have a team with LeBron James outside? of the championship bubble, the last time a LeBron team wasn't one of the four finalists. You can't even get them in the top four. How far back do we have to go? To 2006, the last time that happened? Like, I, and I heard what you said about the Clippers. Ah, the Clippers, they, you know, they're two and one against the Lakers, and they dominated them and the two wins.

They were controlled the game. Both those games were tied midway through the fourth quarter. Like, I, this love affair everyone in the media has with the clippers while just brushing to the side the team that still has the best player in basketball in LeBron and the best big man in basketball on Anthony Davis is baffling to me. The Avery Bradley thing is bad. I agree with Kevin O'Connor, who was on with you a couple days ago. The Rondo thing actually might end up being a bit of a blessing in disguise, we'll see. But having the Celtics inside the championship bubble and the last. Lakers outside of it, it is, it's worse than leaving Cam Newton off your Super Bowl quarterback

bubble. You have two bubbles. They both got burst. They're both wrong. Good stuff today. Boy, Nick looks, look at Nick. He's got a nice suit on. He must have just won a big bet. He got a haircut. Oh, you got a haircut. Since I last saw you. I finally got a haircut. Yeah. World opening back up. You're next on that train, Colin. One o'clock today. I'm getting a haircut. This whole mess is going away. All right, buddy. Good seeing you. There you go. Good talking to you. First thing's first, Nick Right, he's funny, funny, funny, funny guy. Coming up next, we've got to go back to the snitch thing. So the NBA put up a snitch line.

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or something, you know, and they bring stuff back into the bubble and everybody's leaving and stuff, and so players can snitch. And we got into this segment, Joy brought it up, I think it's a fascinating segment. I should be a snitch. Because most people don't snitch because they got skeletons in their closet. Nick Wright admitted to that. But I don't cheat on my wife. I don't have offshore bank accounts.

I don't do crack. I'm generally nice to people. I don't have, like, I even get along with my ex-wife. I'm not somebody that has a bunch of skeletons. I'm totally flawed and have all sorts of vulnerabilities and issues, but I'd be a great snitch because I would never worry like, I'm going to snitch and you're going to, oh, you're going to pull that one on me. But that's not really a snitch, though.

What do you mean? Like a snitch is somebody who has something to gain from telling. So generally, someone who's snitching is someone who has a bunch of skeletons in their closet, who's been caught up, who's then like, well, in order to get away with what I've done, let me give you some information on someone else or someone bigger. And then you go with them and then let me go. Well, I have the job I want, so I don't need to snitch to elevate to a new position. That's another reason I should be a snitch.

But the reason I'm not is, I don't even know if this is the right reason, but I don't want to get involved in your dopey mistakes. I just don't want the headache of having to deal with a drama. So if you're cheating on your wife and I snitch on you and I get embroiled in your family, nonsense. It just gets in the way of my kids, my career, and my wife. I agree with you. You asked me if I would tell you if I saw your wife

cheating and I said, no, I don't want those problems. I have my own stuff. So Ann, Ann's out with a mailman and I don't know that mailman. Maybe you guys have made this arrangement. It's not my business. We have considered the affair with a mailman many times. How do I know it's an affair?

All I'm saying is Goulet, Goulet, you have a point on this. What's your point? Hold on. My point was just that if you are in the bubble and you see, like, LeBron, a big time star about doing something they're not supposed to be, are you really calling that hotline? No, well, not if I'm a Laker. No way. No, certainly not a Laker, but let's say you're in the East.

It's not even like, oh, we're playing them. I want to get them out. It's like another team. Are you really going to do that to LeBron? If I'm a clipper I am. That's my question with this. That's why it is a snitch hotline to me. Because, right, in general, what Nick is saying is true.

it's actually a public health hotline, right? The whole reason that they're putting this in place is to keep people from bringing Corona into the bubble, right? So it's not like it's a bad thing in the concept of it. But how do you prevent or how do you vet these snitch tips? How do you know it's not Kauai snitching on LeBron? Like, how do you know that? And maybe LeBron's not even doing anything.

Maybe he's just lingering near the line or near the quarantine exit. And it's like just enough that someone else could be like, yeah, I did see him there. Like, how do you vet these things? The other thing is, if you snitch, they always find out. Yeah, that's the point. That's Spencer did what he's point. Don't snitch because then you are forever going to be a snitch and nobody likes a rat.

And there's a chance. I have this theory in life that right now there are some things you can keep private, like text messages. I don't even think in the next five years, you'll be able to go back to Joy Taylor I'll be able to get every text message. You can do that now. Disgusting. So there's no privacy.

So you know if you snitch on LeBron, you know, Broussard, Winhorst, they'll break that. Sean Sean, you'll break that story in two years. Someone's going to know who it was that snitched. Because it's just like the way to get people to, like let's say there's a hotline.

And there's a hotline number. And everybody finds out you have to call a number. And so you end up learning who the hotline guy is. And I went up to you and I said, I'm an NBA guy. I'll give you 10 grand. Who snitched on me? You know he's going to rat.

He's working at Disney World for crying out loud. The reason this is a snitch hotline to me, because again, I understand the concept is to keep everyone safe. The only people who can call this have something essentially to gain from the person that they're snitching on being quarantines, right? Because you're not going to tell on your own team, right? So you can only gain from it. You have intentions. Even if you have genuine intentions of, wow, I saw this guy leave, he could bring Corona in, but he's on another team. Essentially, you are snitching because that team is not, your team's not going to benefit from being out. Well, I think you'd snitch on your own team. What if you're a, what if you don't get a lot of minutes? You're J.R. Smith and I'm like, KCP gets. We're getting deep in it now. You don't think people would? I don't, I think that this line is problematic for a lot of reasons. Yes. I think that that is available. Have you ever snitched? No, I'm not a snitch. Not in one.

time in your life. No, I can't, I cannot be a snitch. I'm with, I'm with Nick. I've snitched. I'm not a gambler, but I have my own devices and that's not available. A gulet of you snitched. No. Yeah, I've snitched once. So now you're making me nervous. It wasn't on you. And I felt, I felt there was a victim. That's why I snitched it. That's not, that's not snitching, though. Well, kind of snitching. I mean, there's a victim. Sticking up for someone, helping someone out. When you have something to gain from the person that you're snitching on, that's when you're a snitch. Boy, that's a whole other segment. I know. It's very complicated.

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I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Then you're finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

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search Learn the Hardway and listen now. What's up guys? This is Clivert Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Cliverts show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff,

like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me, he goes, Hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.

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Oh, here we go. It's hour two. Strangely packed on a Wednesday as we await word on Dack Prescott's contract, live in Los Angeles. This is the hurt. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. We're Eyeheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Joy Taylor is joining me as always. We just wrapped up our snitch segment,

and that snitch segment was brought to you by Geico. 15% credit and car motorcycle and RV policies on what you'd already save. You have to switch, not snitch, by October 7th. Go to geico.com to learn more. that hotline is so problematic. Yeah, it's a snitch hotline, and there's a lot of variables. It is some people are snitchers, some aren't.

My theory has always been people with lots of baggage don't snitch because they don't want people snitching on them. That's kind of my theory on stichers. Yeah, no, that is true. That's true. But then also, like, you know, sometimes you get caught up and then you want to get out of it, and that's like a true. Do-gooders are mostly snitchers. Do-gooders? Yes, of course.

Yeah, I, you know. Oh, this guy. That guy. Yeah. So, and I'm not a do-gooder, but I'm not a snitch for other reasons, which is I'm very self-absorbed and I don't want to get into your problems. I don't think that's self-absorbed. Like, mind your own business. Everything is not your business.

That's right. You're messing around. Just mind your own business. I'm not going to be into it. Okay, so a Dak Prescott could sign a contract long term with the Cowboys. And people have kind of aligned in two camps. I'm in the camp of he's good, needs a lot around him, don't want him to be. go, I'd franchise tag him.

Let's see if it was Jason Garrett as the problem last year as he eroded. But I don't want him leaving. And then there's the other, he deserves it. He got to pay him because he'd hear nothing and he's great. And I don't really fall into that. But here's the thing. Let's not have a pity party. Here's the two outcomes.

To me, there's only two outcomes. Number one, he plays very well with McCarthy. Jason Garrett was the problem and he gets a long-term deal. or the more likely one, there's no OTAs, the offensive line for the Cowboys is aging. This is a new system, a new coach, and a coach that's had Hall of Fame quarterbacks, and they franchise them this year, and they're too good to get a great draft pick, and they don't want Cam Newton or Derek Carr, so they franchise them again, and he makes $69 million guaranteed.

That is a lot of money. That is the more likely one. But let's not kid ourselves. they're not bailing on him. I mean, he's not going to be awful with Mike McCarthy. He's not going to be terrible. If you look at Dallas's schedule this year, it's pretty workable. It's one of the easier schedules in the NFL.

And the Giants still aren't great. And Washington's still not great. Although I think they both have a chance to be better than we think. But neither is great. Philadelphia could be great. Could go 0 and 2 there. But he's not going to be awful. And so you've got two things.

Now, Nick Wright and I disagree. I think he got two outcomes. He plays well, gets a long-term deal. Or he's meh, eight-and-eight, new system, not a lot of practices. Washington, New York are better. Philadelphia is great. NFC's loaded. They're eight-and-eight.

They don't make the playoffs. And you're like, Cammer, Dak, Dak. Cammer, Derek Carr, DAC. We didn't get Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, DAC. And you just franchise tag him another year. And he makes $69 million. That's, to live in that world, if that's the world,

if that's the worst case scenario to live in Dallas, a beautiful city, no state tax, and $69 million. That's a lot of lettuce. So I, you know, Jane Slater, who does a great job, part of the Hurt podcast network, she does a great job, talks about this morning why the Cowboys haven't written a big long-term check yet. A lot of people, they feel like, well, you've overpaid players for years. Why not the one guy that actually deserves it? Unfortunately, I think you have two things happening here. You finally have a front office that's saying to themselves,

we can't keep getting ourselves in what they used to call Cap Hell around here. And we're not going to be able to go to a Super Bowl if we continue to overpay players. And they said that even with the Ezekiel Elliott deal. And we were talking about this last summer, guys, you can't overpay these players. But they feel like they're not disrespecting him. And they're also not overpaying him. They're paying what they believe is the market values. And here's the other thing.

There are some quarterbacks this year in the NFL where I think there could be a drastic outcome. if Baker Mayfield unravels out. Or he's Pro Bowl level with all these weapons. I mean, I think you could get an either or with Baker Mayfield. Dwayne Haskins, he really, he wins some games. He grows a lot with Ron Rivera, or he's not very good. They move on. Those are drastic outcomes.

Derek Carr. Like Derek Carr and Gruden, you know, in that division, Denver's better, Chargers is better, Casey's better. Gruden looks up, they're 6 and 10, and he's like, I'm out of here. Or Oakland's draft picks, they had good draft last year, are really good on the defensive side.

Oakland ends up making a wildcard team, and Gruden's like, you know what? We're 9 and 7, 10 and 6, I'm going to go one more year. I think those guys, Baker, Derek Carr, Dwayne Haskins, you could have drastic, depending on how they play. They're gone or they get a big contract.

I don't see that with that. He either gets a long one or he gets a good one. So I had not a big pity party. He's in a good spot either way. All right. So an interesting story by Bruce Feldman today on college football coaches on the prospect of losing players to a postpone season. So I think right now we're about 50-50 on playing college football in the spring. One of the things that to me is sort of exhausting in the media is I don't always have to have a strong opinion on everything.

I don't. I see a lot of grants. life. But you get a lot of attention if you're Fox News or MSNBC the world's ending or Trump's being picked on. And by the way, I, you know, not a Trump fan, but I tend in life when it comes to most presidents and most political issues. I'm somewhere leaning one side or the other, but I'm kind of in the middle. Same in sports. I don't have massive strong tribal opinions on a lot of stuff. And I'm not going to engineer them or be inauthentic to get a click.

Like, if I say stuff, I mean it. I'm okay with spring football and college football. It's not my ideal situation. I'd rather have it in the fall. But let me shoot down two of the, oh, these scenarios are just its Armageddon. Number one, the weather issue. Playing in late January, February, March, the weather. Yeah, the weather in the Midwest isn't great.

but four of the five power five conferences, ACC has got a lot of Carolina, Florida schools, PAC 12 out west, SEC in the south and Big 12, very temperate late January, February, March weather. You're not playing in blizzards in those places.

So the weather thing's overstated. Here's the other one, though. Oh, this is the end of college football. Do you know that nobody that's going to get drafted is going to want to plan it? That is a bunch of nonsense. On an average year, there's about 15 to 18 players in college football this year. They're going to be first round picks.

You know, Travis, Lawrence, the quarterback at Clemson, Justin Fields. Alabama's got a receiver and a couple of defensive linemen. There's about 18 guys that they're going in the first round. Outside of that, players have to play themselves into the first round or upper second round. That's where the money is. Outside of that, nobody's making money by the end of the second round early third. You've got to play your way into it. I mean, LSU has a lot of guys, even LSU last year, that played their way in to the late first round early second. So that's a bunch of nonsense. Here's the other thing. There's over 1,100 college football players. There's 85

scholarships a team. There's 125, 130 teams. You have over 1,100, almost 1,200 college football players. Oh, my bad. Did I say 100? It's 1,000. Sorry. So you got 11,000, 11,000, 12,000 college football players. Let's say 40 are like, I'm a first round guy, even though they're not, they think they are. 40 are like, I am out.

40 at 12,000 is going to crush the sport. And by the way, the three or four schools that would lose the most players, Bama Clems and Ohio State, they've got five-star guys. his backups. If Trevor Lawrence left Clemson, that hurts. Have you seen the backup? He's a kid from Los Angeles, who many believe is the single most talented quarterback in a decade in Los Angeles. Okay. He'll step in like Trevor Lawrence that is a freshman and win a bunch of games at Clemson with their talent. It's not like they don't have NFL offensive linemen, backs, receivers, tight ends, and defensive guys. They have the best defensive coordinator in the country.

Ohio State. Ooh, one of our receivers. left. The other seven they have on their roster, Ohio State doesn't recruit two and three star wide receivers. They get the cream of the crop. So does Bama, so does Clemson. So the people that it would affect actually Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, maybe in Oklahoma, those teams are star-studded. Oklahoma can go on the road regularly in their conference, not play particularly well and win by two touchdowns. I mean, if you look at Alabama every year, they've got two really tough games. They've got that, you know, like a Georgia LSU game and a playoff game, they're boat racing people by 30. They lose six starters.

Who do you think they have behind them? Me? Goulet? No. So there's a little weather concern. It's little, it's not gigantic. And yes, it would be tough on a Clemson and Alabama. But they are so well equipped.

It's not like if Purdue loses a left tackle and a center. They're done. Season's over. Their backups are no star guys. Their backup guys are not even undrafted free agent level players. Clemson, they're not starting a guy. I mean, Clemson starts 22 players offense and defense. At this point, I'd be shocked if more than four didn't end up in an NFL camp,

drafted or undrafted. Everybody's an NFL player at Alabama. Everybody gets a look. You started Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State at this point. It is rare if you don't at least get an invite to a camp for the NFL. So this idea, college football either goes in the fall or it's a disaster. No, it's not. You play like seven, eight games.

You have your first game the last weekend of January. You play four games in February. It's a short month. You play three more in March. You're done by March 15th. Guys, star players don't go to the combine necessarily anyway. Who gives a rip? And you have an eight game schedule.

It's fun. We're all happy. And then you get a month after the season. a month until the draft. It'll be fine. All right, Howard Beck's around the corner. He's not in the bubble, but he's got some NBA thoughts. You're starting to watch guys practice now.

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Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. MLB on Fox returns on July 25th with Fox. Saturday baseball and we couldn't be more excited. Baseball is back and, of course, America's home for baseball this summer. As always, we'll be Fox and FS1. I'm so excited. I watched the highlights last night if it was a Cubs

Inter Squad game. And they piped in a little fake noise and it was tolerable. Soccer's great. I've been watching that. Basketball is not going to be a problem. I told you two days ago, I watched the basketball game. Don't know who played. And they had these drapes or these banners. And I was like, because I've been

thinking myself, it's going to look like Rutgers park. It's going to be like a pickup game. It doesn't. It looks really cool. I don't think anything that is shot in that format is going to look weird. Like, we're going to get used to it. It's more of the sound. It's the sound issue. If the NBA is going to look like what I watched two nights ago, you're going to be like, oh, this is really good. I didn't even know who these players were. And I was like, oh, this is incredibly consumable. Baseball looks a little more empty because you're shooting it in a different way. Absolutely. Okay. Howard Beck has been covering the NBA for a long time. Senior writer, Bleacher Report, covered the NBA for almost 25 years,

joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network at upstate New York at a secluded grotto, and we certainly appreciate that. Okay, let's start with a snitch line. Joy and I are fascinated. We are not snitchers because we have such flawed lives. We don't want people to snitch on us. What do you make of these stories about the snitch line in the NBA? What are guys like you that cover the league finding out? well clearly i'm not in the bubble so i'm in no position to snitch myself or be snitched upon but listen i i i think we need to get away for like it's fun for us to talk about and make jokes about the snitch line and all that stuff this is bigger than that though like if somebody has

decided to leave the bubble when they should not have been and try to reenter or they're bringing people in from outside because they needed some company if they get quote unquote snitched on. This is to protect everybody. Yeah. So I like I like I like I you know, look it's easy for us all to joke about but it's a serious issue. Uh, you don't want to take any chances that could shut this whole thing down that could jeopardize people's health, their lives and, you know, this entire enterprise. The entire restart of the season could go down in flames if people are being careless. Yeah. Let's talk about some real hoops here. Avery Bradley is a rotational player. He's a starter. He would have been on the floor with four minutes to go

a playoff game gone. Rondo, a more situational bench guy, gone. Both can at least, I mean, I think Bradley's a good defensive player, and I think situational basketball, they're really smart guys, the kind of guys that LeBron could lean on in key spots, they're out. Does it affect the Lakers to you? It affects them, of course, because they now have that much less room for error, that much less depths and that many fewer guys that if LeBron needs a breather, you can hand the ball to and say, go run the offense for a few minutes. But look, it's the playoffs. I don't believe they're going to have any back-to-backs in this schedule.

Games are spaced out. You can lean on LeBron that much more. LeBron's the point guard on every team he's ever played on anyway. So the idea that you're losing anybody who's a ball handler or quote-unquote point guard doesn't really matter that much. Rondo, you know, at this stage of his career, his best value is, in fact, his leadership, his wisdom. He's one of the smartest players of the last, you know, 10 years. And so not having Rondo around because he had to leave to get that surgery means you just don't even have his voice. on the bench and in the locker room,

I think that's the bigger loss. That plus, yeah, look, if LeBron, you know, needs a blow, you have two fewer guys who can come in, but they'll lean on Alex Caruso, they'll lean on some others. They'll be okay, I think. Yeah. I've never been, listen, Westbrook is what he is.

He's a great dynamic, athletic player. I don't buy he and Hardin are going to work. In fact, we got into this discussion yesterday. I do think the combo, the star combos that work generally work pretty early. 15, 20 games together. you're like, okay, it works. Harden Westbrook, they could play together eight years. They're stylistically, it doesn't work.

Now Westbrook's got COVID. I feel there's a lack of cohesion in the organization. The owner's, a restauranteur who's losing billions. The GM has to deal with that owner. The head coach had to replace his staff. It wasn't his call. James Hardin. I don't know if any of them loved Antony.

I mean, I just feel like there's a lack of cohesion here. What do you buy with Houston, which I do think is a fact. fascinating team with two NBA superstars. How's the bubble play out to them? Yeah, you know, I had a story about the Rockets about a week and a half ago or so, and one of the scouts I talked to basically said, look, this is the last dance. He used that phrase. This is the last dance for them. And, you know, it's because of all, a lot of the things you just mentioned, Colin, it's the instability or the perceived instability. Obviously, Mike Dantonies in the last year of his contract. They didn't extend him. You mentioned the coaching staff moves. Daryl, at one point, was thought to be

on shaky ground because of the China stuff. So we'll see how that all plays out probably weeks or months from now. But in the meantime, how far can they get within this restart format? I've been a skeptic from the beginning. And a lot of people around the league have been about the Westbrook, hard and pairing, two of the highest usage guys in the history of the league, trying to trade off with ball handling responsibilities. Westbrook, not a shooter, though he has had some good moments.

And especially before the season shut down, he was actually shooting pretty well. But is that sustainable? Is he going to regress to the mean? Harden still has the ball in his hands a lot of the time. And historically, what's happened is teams in the playoffs know how to scheme for that. It's harder to win that way with a really one player, you know, kind of, you know, the heliocentrism, as Seth Pard now of the athletic has dubbed it, where it's all about one guy. You can scheme for that in the playoffs.

You can make that less efficient. So I'm not a believer, but, and this is a significant, but these two guys are really potent offensive players, very creative players. and the bubble is going to present all kinds of weird things and circumstances that none of us can account for because we haven't seen it yet. Could they get on a roll with those two guys and maybe knock somebody off and make a deep run? Yeah, it's possible. Joy and I were kind of shocked yesterday that the idea Chris Middleton hadn't picked up a ball in four months. And my takeaway is, you know, Chris got a big contract.

Call your agent, find a court, you know, get some workout in. I was shocked by it, especially, I mean, it's one thing if you're a rookie, you're a kid, you're in a condo. I mean, I get it. But the Middleton story, I was kind of like, wow, that caught me off guard. Are you surprised at all? No, I'm not because I've been having this discussion with people ever since the shutdown began in early March, mid-March, which is that a lot of players, especially when they were in their road markets, not their home markets where they have their permanent house. but Chris Middleton, he's renting an apartment somewhere in the Milwaukee area. You're in an apartment building.

There isn't a court. Any gym you could have gone to, gyms are all shut down. Schools, schools are all shut down. You don't have a rim. The parks are shut down. A lot of guys, more that, like, it's impossible to, you know, do the comprehensive survey. But Colin, I think you and others would be surprised to realize a lot of guys just simply had no

access to baskets. And when people say, oh, come on, you're rich, you're this, you're that, you can find something. really wanted to. These 450 players are the best basketball players on earth. They're gym rats. They've been doing this their entire lives. Of course, if they can find a hoop somewhere to shoot at, they're going to. If they didn't, it means it was just that difficult or impossible to do. And that leads, of course, to the obvious question or one of the issues of the restart, which is how many these guys are in shape, how many are in basketball shape, and how many are actually in any

kind of shooting rhythm, much less a rhythm with each other as teammates. And these are all obstacles that all these teams are having to deal with right now. You know, we all kind of look, we kind of have a feeling who's going to be good and who's going to be not in this. I mean, there's just kind of a sense of who, is there a team to you? I would have said Utah if they didn't lose, was it Bogdanovich to a wrist surgery or something, I would have said, they're a sneaky good matchup. They play real defense. But now he's gone, so I don't see them good enough offensively to really keep up with the Clippers, Lakers, and, you know, top teams.

Is there a team here in this bubble? Like if I said to you, oh, my lord, they got to the conference finals. Maybe not the title. Is there something out there that you're like, there's a couple variables that may work in their favor? Yeah, listen, in the West, to me it's a stretch to imagine anything other than the two LA teams. Those other teams are all very good, but can they make a run to the conference finals? I think only if something goes wrong. if the virus hits one of the top teams, if soft tissue injuries, which are another big concern here with all these guys having been off as long as they have been.

But in the east, it's different, Colin. In the east, you know, the gap in the standings between the bucks and the rest was substantial. But I don't believe even before the season stopped that the bucks were really miles better than the Celtics, the Raptors. The heat are an interesting team. The Sixers now fully healed if they can get their chemistry right. And because there's no home court advantage, no road disadvantage, no fans, and everybody's been off for months, this is like a new season, Colin. And so if you've got the talent, if you've got a one-two punch like Ben Simmons and Joelle Embed, or if you've got the kind of depth that the Celtics

have and the number of offensive creators that Celtics have, or the championship know-how that the Raptors have and a guy like Pascal Seaccombe to play off of in Kyle Lowry, I think any of those teams can make a run to the conference finals in the east. I think the east is more open than the west. Good stuff. So he is right now at an Airbnb and in upstate New York, which is an unbelievably beautiful area. I hope you and your family are safe, having a great time. It looks peaceful. I can hear birds chirping in the background. It is not Brooklyn. That's for sure. Howard, thank you so much. Appreciate it, Colin. Thank you. You know, it's funny about this whole thing. So I've been watching all these sports, right?

without fans doesn't affect me at all. I just don't care. MLS is better with fans, but I sat there again last night and watched it. UFC is irrelevant. I'm watching the octagon. I don't care about the fans. NASCAR, Goulet, tell me.

Is it different with or without fans? Only post-race, because they're cheering, but during the race, you can't hear fans. There's engines, so it doesn't matter. I am not in any way saying fans don't matter. The NFL first 10 rows are advertising. They're not going to let you see above that. And they're going to pipe in crowd noise.

I think it's going to be a lot better than you think at the NFL level. And I'm telling you, if the NBA looks like, I don't know why I didn't figure out who these were, the players I watched play two nights ago, I think it was in Orlando, in an arena with banners hanging down that covered the stands. If the NBA looks like that and they pipe in a little crowd noise, I'm going to tell you something. It's not that much different. It's really not.

I sat there watching anonymous players play an anonymous game, which appear to be in Orlando with a bunch of banners covering the stands. And I was like, if this is LeBron, this is just basketball. The only thing for the TV product in any of these sports is going to be different. Baseball. Dramatically. Well, baseball, yes, just because again, how it's shot, you're going to see more of the stands, is the sound.

But the actual product, I mean, think about it. When you're watching the game, I'm not watching to see what the fans are doing. added elements, of course. But when you're there, that's when the fans, you feel the energy of the fans. But television. Television, we don't, you're not paying attention to that. I've never paid attention to that.

You know it because the announcers are telling you the building's going crazy and you can hear how loud the fans are, but it's, it's going to be fine. Like, it's as far as us watching the product, it's all going to be consumable and we're going to love it. By way, whether you're working from home or not, Raycon's wireless earbuds are sensational. Buy raycon.com slash herd, H-E-R-D.

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Sponsored by Mercedes-Benz, the best or nothing. Aaron Donald was unanimously chosen as the best defensive linemen in a poll of 50 executives, coaches, players, and scouts around the NFL. Yeah. He was the only player to be ranked first across the board at any position. One scout took it a step further saying Donald is not just the best at his position, but he is the best player in football. I agree with that.

Well, no, no, no. He's second to Russell Wilson. What about Patrick Holmes? Russell Wilson at the line of scrimmage right now is an A. He's an A-making plays. He's an A as a leader. I think, and I've said this as a compliment in Mahomes, he is really great. we have not seen the peak yet.

I think with Russell, you're getting a finalized product. He reminds me, Russell Wilson reminds me of Lidani and Tomlin Simony. He was running back from the Chargers. Catch, block, lead, playbook, toughness, never fumbled. So you think Russell is better than Holmes? I'm not to say a better quarterback. I think Russell's the best football player in the world. He's the most instrumental playoff.

Mahomes is the most gifted, and he's probably two years away from being at the line. Remember, Mahomes admitted this year. I just figured out how to read defenses. He is about 25 games away from mastering the line of scrimmage and then it's going to be a notch above what he is now. That doesn't make any sense. He's still rising. So I think Aaron Donald Russell Wilson are the best players in,

are the best football players in the world. In the world. And Mahomes is third. Yeah. You know how people get when you start talking about Mahomes. God. Well, Pro football focus had Donald had a past rush win percentage of 22.4 during the 2019 season.

That was the best in the NFL with no other qualified defensive lineman finishing better than 17.5%. So he is considerably better as far as those rankings. He is ridiculously quick for the position and size. It doesn't.

He does a... He's obviously massive, right? But he's incredibly skilled, too. Like his speed plus his skill, he's not just one of those linemen that's just barreling down at you. He's so... Ram, practice.

We get feet. On Twitter, you can get RAM practice feeds. Yeah. I mean, just look at his handword. It's everything. Feet, hand. You know, Dave Wanstatt, last hour on the show today, Dave Wanstatt recruited him.

He was not a five-star recruit. Wanstatt found him. Uncle Dave. Dave Wanstatt found him. Love Dave Wanstatt. So Tom Thibodeau has been the favorite to land the next head coaching job since the start of their search. But another candidate may be giving him a run for his money.

Jason Kidd reportedly had a great interview with New York. While the organization was wild by kid, belief is still that it is Thibodeau's job to lose. Okay, nothing against Thibodeau. How many jobs you had? I mean, that's the NBA coaching carousel, right? Which for a certain amount of jobs, I understand. But then sometimes I think it's just, it just becomes obvious that you are an assistant.

By the way, Jason, Kit and Thibodeau. They've had, well, you guys coach the Nets and the Bucks. I mean, it's, and the Bucks got better when Jason Kitt stopped. For a while, we thought he was going to be the Lakers coach. I don't know. I just sometimes, maybe I. Thibodeau apparently has a great relationship with Leon Rose, which is the new Nix president. So I don't know.

When it comes to the Nix, it's like I always say, I don't, what, not that what doesn't matter, but it's like until you fix the foundation of the New York Nix, I don't know how revolutionary you can get with the coaching hire that's going to really actually make change. I mean, I thought Fisdale was an incredible hire for the NICS. That didn't work out, obviously. It's just, it's never ending with them. Finally, NBA players had to find their own way to stay in shape, as we were just talking about during the nearly four months off with the shutdown.

And Carmelo Anthony says his body is feeling refreshed as he gets to work in the bubble. The first couple days were tough because we had a quarantine, you know, you got your testing quarantine away from everybody. But now that you practice and you're playing, you know, you're going through the day-to-day. Your body feel fresh, right? your body and your mind feel fresh. Other than everything else, yeah, everything else it is, but it is, right? So I don't, you know, as long as you keep working and doing what you do and just shopping

in your craft, you got to keep your mind and your body right at the end of the day. Somebody said he lost a bunch of weight, like Carmelo was skinny. Lean Melo now. Is that him right there? Yeah. Oh, geez. Oh, Lord. Oh, God.

A lot of guys took advantage of this time off. That's Carmelo Anthony. Yeah. That's the skinniest. He's been his entire career. It was like Syracuse. Yeah, he lost 20 pounds. I mean, you can do a lot now.

You can change your diet. You can get specific workouts. The hell. Doing your normal basketball activity. He's skinny. We've seen a lot of guys completely transformed. Yeah. Lean mellow.

I can't wait for NBA to get back. Oh, my God. I'm trying to like, I've just been trying to keep my, my expectations under control until we get everything back. I'm totally that way. I can't allow myself. I'm not one of those people that. gets too high or too low anyway. But nobody wants to get,

listen, man, I see all these cases and I'm like, I'm just going to like what happens, happens. I can't get this. I can't get any more disappointment. So I'm like, I'm just going to wait until everything starts back up again. But, oh, man, I can't wait for NBA. Yeah, same here. Enjoy with the news. Well, that's the news.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, welcome back. It's Dack Day. A fatiguing, relentless story that won't go away. We'll have an answer in a few hours. Clarence Hill's been covering the NFL for almost 25 years. Senior writer for a great paper. The Fort Worth Star Telegram is joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network.

All right, let's start with this. Clarence, are the Cowboys a little. that they have presented, which, in our opinion, is a reasonable contract. And Dax said, not interested. Little angry. Well, I mean, no one's going to say that publicly, but imagine you want to get engaged with your girlfriend. You guys say, we want to do this thing long term.

And you offer her a ring. And she says, well, the ring's not big enough. It's not big enough. I need more carrots on that ring. So from that standpoint, they can be upset. And then for her standpoint, look, I've been in this thing long enough. I know what kind of money you have. You can afford a bigger ring.

Yeah, boy, let me tell you something. If that's what she says, you got a bigger problem than the ring. Well, I'm just saying, as far as the, I guess it could be frustrated, but we still love each other, right? I'm going to remember that. Worst case scenario. Cowboy, they don't agree to a long-term contract. Like, what is the worst-case scenario going forward for you? The worst case scenario is the Kirk Cousins, I call it the, that's the blow him up mode.

You know, he stays for two years and he leaves via free agency like Kurt Cousins did, which is not a bad option. It has a deck really in the capers. He has all the leverage. You can say what you want about a reasonable deal. The bottom line is when they put the exclusive franchise tag on him, it just put all this in motion. Once you did not get a deal done last year before last season,

and you let him play out his contract. Unlike some of those other deals, we typically talk about the golf deal and the Wits deal and even the Mahomes deal, they did it two years early so you can kind of play with the money and be kept friendly early in the deal and have some of the cap numbers low. You've got to carry the full freight with that's contract.

He's out of contract. So there's no playing with early years in the deal. So there's an opportunity for him, at least from Dax's point of view, that you do what Kirk Cousins did. And he plays on two franchise tags. And he signed big money elsewhere. Keep in mind that going through,

the 2020 season, Kirk Cousins from 2016 in the first year he was franchised, through the 2020 season, what he's being paid will have made more money than anybody in NFL, anybody, not Russell Wilson, not Aaron Rodgers, no one of who have made more money than Kurt Cousins says 2016. Yeah, Eli Manning and Kirk Cousins have made a lot of money playing quarterback. I always believe this to be true, Clarence, whether you're a sports writer, a quarterback, a talk show host, whatever. you need somebody fighting for you in the room because most of our decisions on our employment

for the rest of our lives will be made when we're not in the room. This is where I question, is Mike McCarthy banging on the table for DAC? Is he saying, Jerry, long-term pay it all figured out? Who's fighting for him in that room? Well, I would say that all of them are fighting for DAC. And certainly, Kellen Moore, number one, the guy had kept because of his relationship with that. The guy Mike McCarthy kept on.

on his staff is certainly fighting for Dack. But Jerry and Stephen are fighting for Dack. And keep in mind, Mike McCarthy, you know, since he's been there, he said nothing but glowing things about DEC. We can win a Super Bowl with Dack. Dack is our quarterback. And again, they made his latest two-concourge offers for most of your deals. What you said is fair money have come since Mike McCarthy's been there.

So he's co-signed or signed off on those offers. So the notion that Mike McCarthy doesn't want Dack or they're hitting the pause button to a certain that because Mike McCarthy is there. That doesn't jive up with the facts. You know, we're talking about this. The NFC's got a lot of good young quarterbacks. And the college football has given us more and more ready to play quarterbacks. It feels like in the last four or five years, I mean, even the guys that we didn't quite

know Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, they just pop. Do you, is there a sense here with all the Cowboys making all this big money? That the Super Bowl window's closing, that they're top heavy, that, that, they've got real issues in the secondary, an aging offensive line. If they pay DAC, I mean, it does feel like they're getting a little older in key spots, right? No, it doesn't. I mean, most of the guys they paid are young. I mean, Zeke and Amari and, you know, presumably at some point,

Dak and the market, Lawrence, they're all in their 20s, but, you know, we're all day-to-day. And NFL is year-to-year to a certain extent, and they're trying to win next year. You know, they brought McCarthy in here to win next year. They didn't bring McCarthy in here to wait eight years like Andrew A to win. They brought him in here to win next year. They think they have to talent on this team to win as soon as possible. And that is part of that equation. So whether there's three, four years, that that's the window so big.

I mean, they think they have the firepower to win. And that window, you look at Zee's contract, and it's essentially a four-year deal. And then we'll see, you know, what they do after that. But why you have Zika in his prime, Dak is prime, Marit is prime. They got a coming of Mari Cooper. They're trying to get better on defense. The only really aging guy, I would say, is Tyrant Smith, the left tackle. He's still one of the best left tackles in the league.

But he's right at 30. Yeah. By the way, there's about two hours left. Are we absolutely sure there will be no deal? Like, is it all over now? It has to be all over. Because, you know what, to get a deal, you have to get the wording and the contract stuff right.

They have to get all this stuff filed with the league. I mean, at this point, it's almost two weeks. late to get all the language and stuff done, even if they were to suddenly meet. But as of this morning, they hadn't even met. They're not talking. And that's to me is that the most disheartening thing is that, you know, hours, days before the deals, no one's running out the ground ball. You would think that somebody would call, I know your, the Cowboys won five years. I know you want four years. You know, can we just make a phone call? Can we run out the ground ball just to see if maybe we can, you know, find some middle ground at this point. But that hasn't even happened.

So with no talks this morning, there's no way they get something done by 3 o'clock. Wow. The saga, the drama, the fatigue of it all ends, Clarence Hill, senior writer, Fort Worth Star, Telegram. Good seeing you, my man. And it doesn't end. You know, we do this dance all season and we do this dance over again, so it doesn't end. Yeah. Oh, yippee.

I got to talk about it more. Great. Clarence, good talking to you. No problem. Thank you. Are you okay with feeling older? Neither am I. go to mDrive for men.com,

MDrive for Men.com. By the way, he brought up an interesting scenario. I tend to use analogies and metaphors when I talk about sports. And he was saying, this is like, the Cowboys were a little angry because they said, let's get married, and here's a ring. And Dak said, I want a bigger ring.

I want total honesty here. Do women do that regularly? No, I don't think so. So if you get offered a ring, and it's not up to what you believe is good enough, you wouldn't say anything. No, I would not. I would not.

Okay. But that's what his analogy was interesting. It is an interesting analogy. Cowboys are saying here's a hundred million. I'm not saying people won't think that. I'm just saying they would probably still take the ring. You'd take it, but there would be some resentment. Probably, yes.

Oh, my Lord. That's a lot of heat. I don't know how I've made it. Because I'm not one of these by a skating ring to put on your finger guys. I mean, there's ways to prevent that from happening. How, what? Like you ask questions. you have communication.

Like what do you mean? How much does it? How do you suddenly ask that? I mean, there's nothing subtle about it. You're getting married. You better be past having subtle conversations. Greg Tooie writes on my board. He goes, you pick out the ring together.

Well, then it's not a surprise. No, most women do like to pick out the ring together. Really? Yeah, but you have to wear it forever. You want it to be something you like. Oh, I'm going to give it to you to baseball game in front of thousands. Oh, my God. Is that the worst or what?

How about the guys that do that? Hey, let's go to an A's game. I mean, I love you, honey. God bless you. If she loves it, I love it. I think that's the worst. How did I do it? Yeah, how did you do?

I said, Ann, it's your lucky day. I'm such a. You're a jerk. I'm a jerk. I really am a jerk. No, you were, my brother, actually, my younger brother just got engaged the other day. Congratulations to know it. Who?

He's very subtle about it. Who? My younger brother. Do you do to the baseball? He did not. There's no baseball games right now to go to, so no, he did not. I don't get that. I don't want to be, I should be private. It doesn't have to be private, but. Can't be at an A's game.

He can be like beer. Brewers, twins, we're all getting married. Peanut shells. Hour three next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Whether you're working at home or working on your fitness, you want to hear your music, not your roommates, noise isolating fit, and sound of Raycon, wireless earbuds, Raycon.com by raycon.com slash her. Dave Wanstap, Bears coach, Dolphins coach, a Super Bowl champ defensive coordinator with the Cowboys,

National Champ defensive coordinator of the Miami Hurricanes, one of Jimmy Johnson's closest friends, Fox Sports analyst. Dave's joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network with Lightning and Thunder in the background from beautiful Naples, Florida. So I want to start with this. Aaron Donald, an anonymous NFL scout said he, Aaron Donald's the best football player in the NFL. and I tend to think he is.

So, you know, you would think Aaron Donald would be a five-star recruit and go to Oklahoma or Ohio State, and you were at Pitt, and you got Aaron Donald. When did you see him for the first time in high school? And why did you know he was going to be great? Well, I saw him as a junior, and to be honest with you, he was a wrestler. So I knew that he was a tough guy, and you could see his athletic ability. But I'll be honest with you, he, I think he had one other offer, a smaller school. The competition was not that tight at all.

And when he came to Pith, we had Jabal Shear, Greg Rommies. I mean, we had some guys that played in a national football league. And he, you know, Dionne Lewis, obviously, was on that team on offense. And Aaron, as a true freshman, the plan was definitely the red shirt this guy. But as a true freshman, he played for me. And we couldn't keep him off the field then. And the rest is history. So really, I mean, to be honest, I had no.

idea he was going to be that good. We knew he was an athlete and a good football player and a tough guy, but never to the level that he's at right now. It's getting crazy. It sounds like the Patrick Mahomes story. I talked to Patrick Mahomes High School coach. He said we thought he was good, we didn't know he was going to be that good. Let me ask you about Dak. It's a former head coach. Your quarterback matters. If you'd offered a long contract to a guy like Dak, who's a good quarterback, we don't think he's great, but really good. And it's $100 million and he doesn't sign it. would you have a little resentment as a coach to a player who you offer a huge contract to, a life-altering contract if he said no?

Well, it would bother you. I think a little bit because, you know, if there's one guy, you know, the Dallas Cowboys are a little bit different. If you're a Jerry Jones guy, which I believe that is, Jerry, you know, their relationship is what you would hope every owner and quarterback would be. I'm sure that Jerry expected to get a little bit more track because of their relationship, if I'm making sense there. And I think that Jerry would be a little bit disappointed in it

because he knows it's all business. But at the same time, relationships are very, very important for Jerry Jones. And I wanted his guy, without a doubt. Yeah. So did you ever go? Because I've theorized, and I think a lot of people have. that McCarthy gets in and he's to have Favrevin Rogers, and that maybe he just wants to kick the tires for a year on DAC,

just kick it for a year and see if it works. And maybe Jason Garrett was the problem, not DAC. Did you ever take a Dolphins or a Bears job when you did? And there was a quarterback in there, and you wanted to kick the tires with a quarterback for a year before extending a contract. Well, I kind of went through that my first year at the Bears. Jim Harbaugh was our quarterback, and Jim had a good year. The problem was we did not have a very good supporting cast.

And so we made a quarterback change. His contract was up. We signed Eric Kramer from Detroit. Eric came in and played very good until he got hurt. But, you know, I think you got to look at the big picture of things. And, you know, this Dallas Cowboy team, I know Jerry. And Jerry is looking at this saying, we've got great receivers. We've got an all-pro running back.

We've got a very good offensive line. the quarterback, we all know that you have to have a good quarterback to win a Super Bowl, but in his mind, there's a lot of great pieces to this puzzle already in place. And I think that's a little bit of the issue right now with Jerry as far as just jumping up there and giving him the big, big money for a long, long-term contract. You know, I said this morning is that a simple question you could ask yourself before you pay a quarterback. Is he good enough to win a Super Bowl? Now, people will say, well, Nick Foles won it, and I would say to that,

but Carson Wentz got him home field advantage. He's never started more than eight games in one season. That's not fair. To be a Super Bowl-winning quarterback, can you play 16 games? Can you win occasional shootouts against great quarterbacks? Can you beat Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick and Andy Reed and Sean Payton, Hall of Fame coaches? Can you win multiple road games?

Matt Ryan, Jared Goff, and Garoppel got darn close. and I think if you get as close as they did, you can do it. If you get that close, you can do it. But I put 11 guys down that I think can go beat Hall of Fame coaches, beat Hall of Fame quarterbacks, go on the road and win multiple weeks. Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rogers, Carson Wentz, Brady, Breeze, Jared Gough, Matt, Matt, Ryan, Jimmy Garoppolo, Deshawn Watson. I did not put in, for instance, Big Ben,

because I don't know what he is at his age post-surgery. Is that a fair list to you of guys? Am I missing somebody, guys that could go on the road multiple weeks, win shootouts, and win Super Bowls? No, I mean, it's a good list. Obviously, the top four guys have done it. And then we know Tom Brady has done it. Carson Wentz, though, you know what? I mean, between rents and Jared Duff, I mean, there's some guys on there that I'm not totally convinced.

I think they're great players, but there's one thing of being a great player in the season. and then obviously it's playoff time, it's Super Bowl time, and now making the plays when you have to there to win the big game. So I like your list. I like the top four guys. I think everybody would. But, you know, the one thing, don't lose sight, is, you know, running the football and being balanced, you know, Mike McCarthy,

I know Mike, he's a Pittsburgh guy. He's not, it's five times a game at Dallas. They are going to be balanced. He will use Dax's legs and make some plays. and go all through the playoffs. I think Mahomes averaged to over 50 yards a game rushing. And the big plays in that Super Bowl, he made with his feet. He made some great throws.

But Prescott brings that to the table. So, you know, when you combine him with the guys we set already, an outstanding receiver group, I think they got the best receiver in the draft out of Oklahoma last year. And then you throw in the offensive line and running game, they can win a Super Bowl with that Prescott. I've got no reservations about that. out. I really don't. All right, that's good. So, you know, it's, we got college football and we got

NFL. And I want to stick with one more NFL question. So if you have a star quarterback, you know, it's different. Howie Long owe his jokes. You can never have two quarterbacks, two star quarterbacks in the same room. They all take the oxygen out of the room. And your Green Bay this year and you're Matt LaFleur and you drafted Jordan Love and it looks like with the Packers draft, they're going to be more balanced and more power running based. Do you think it would be a mistake? Because you draft Jordan Love in the first round. Would it be a mistake if you are Matt LaFleur to throw in a couple of series for Jordan Love to see what you got?

Or do you think that is poking the bear with a Hall of Fame quarterback and Aaron Rogers? No, I think you can add Jordan Love in a package and maybe it's, and maybe it's, it's in combination with their running game and the running backs. You know, maybe that's the way to use him best, keep it simple. You know, I mean, there's going to, not many people are going to know how he's going to perform what he does well, what he does. So, I mean, putting him in the game, I think gives him a little different dimension. Boy, you just got to be darn careful that you don't create a situation with Aaron Rogers

second guessing the coaching decisions. You know, he's already probably in the back of his mind saying, we get a great receiver. No one can blame them for thinking that. So, you know, right now I think it's very fragile up there at Green Bay. And boy, if you're going to have problems, you better have them with Aaron Rogers, not with a rookie football. You've got to be real careful. Okay, college football.

You can lose that team. Yeah. You could lose that team. You could lose that football team in a hurry if you're Matt LaFour and you start playing games with too many different packages when you're coming off a, you know, a playoff team like they have. Yeah, you always taught me. You can lose a game. You can't lose a locker room. Let's go to college football where, you know, you've got students on campus.

It's a much more tangled web than the NFL, which I think is just going to put their head down and bulldoze through it. Today, what is your gut feeling? You've coached college football. Could you get a season in with kids on campus and going to class and schedules and practices? Can college football get through this thing? Everybody wants it to. I think they're going to have a problem. Why?

Because when they made all these decisions, who's making the decision right now? And I know Tim Brando's been banging the drum that there's not one decision maker in college football that's kind of really controlling the whole thing. Who's going to make the decision right here? It's going to be the presidents. It's not going to be the ADs.

I promise you, at the end of the day. day. You know, it's not going to be the head football coaches. And I'm talking to a lot of college coaches right now. Those presidents and then you've got a board of trustees and you're going to have a few doctors on each board. I went through it at pick. And everyone's got an opinion. I think it's, boy, then you've got the different states. You're doing it different ways. I think there's going to be a college season somewhere, somewhere. But I don't feel, I think it's 50, 50 at best. I really do. And I hate to say that, but I think that's the reality of where we're at right now because I don't see it getting any better in the next

two or three weeks and at some point you've got to get in there and start practicing and you've got to start getting these kids in shape and everything that goes with preparation. I don't see I think it's going to be a tough, tough deal. I really do. One of my favorite places in the world is Naples, Florida. That's where Dave's at right now. I know exactly where he's at, what street he's on. So have you had a, if you knocked out a round of golf and a cigar yet today? No, not today. I'm, uh, I'm being good today. I did yesterday. I'll be in Chicago very soon, and then hopefully, you know, everything I got going in Chicago

and then I'll be getting ready for our stuff. I wore this shirt, Paul, and I don't know if you can see it or not. It's the one Shreger gave us for Christmas. It's got our whole little team's name. Yes, Carissa Thompson, me, and very. Yep, so I wanted to try to get you between Naples and the shirt I was wearing, I wanted to get you kind of in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the mood, you know, get you going a little bit. All right. Have a great night with your

beautiful wife and enjoy Naples. It's great talking to you, coach. All right, Colin. See you soon. Oh, bye-bye. All right, good stuff. One thing hasn't changed this year. How much we depend on our cars. Go to carsheel.com. Code Herd. Get 15% off.

Carseel.com. Summer's rough on cars. They break down more. Good stuff with Uncle Dave. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.

Well, Joe Burrow hasn't had the luxury of a full off-season program to get up to speed with Cincinnati's offense. And former Bengals quarterback Ken Anderson says the only thing that the team can do to prepare him this year is throw him on the field day one. I think it's the only move. Yeah, let's get him out there. Let's get him going. Let's get them as many reps as they had. You know, any quarterback will tell you that your performance is directly related to the other 10 guys that you've got on the field with you. And so I think, you know, you have to be, you know, patient.

with Joe. He can't do it all by himself. Everybody's going to have to do their part in this. Well, unfortunately, they're the worst team in the NFL, which is why they have Joe Burrow. In, in. A very difficult division.

You can argue the first three teams in the AFC North have the no other division has three defenses that good at the top of any division. Brown personnel, Steelers front seven scary, and Baltimore is a juggernaut.

So my point being, so Burrell is going to have to face six times this year, world-class defenses against an offensive line that is hoping, crossing their fingers that Jonah Williams comes back and is good. Yeah, that's the problem with this situation amongst many others.

And while we may be somewhat patient with Joe Burrow, I know I certainly will be, because of the circumstances that he's in. Oh, you have to be. You have to be patient. He's going to get, he's going to get, he's going to get I'm not thinking

the Bengals won't obviously or they wouldn't have taken him number one of the ball. I'm not going to bash Joe Burrell if he goes two and 13. There's no way I'm going to have. There's no reason to. I don't think that you should be we in the media should be that judgmental

of any rookies this year. And for that matter, new head coaches as well. I won't be judgmental but I will tell people I told you so. I'm going to taunt people. Because that's not judgmental? You know what? Because that's not who I am, but this year I'm going to be.

Why this year of all years? They don't have their normal offseason programs. If they had their full offseason programs and then he went, that was his record, then I would be okay with that. Like a lot of excuse making. All I know is this. There's three excuses and reasons. Here's why. Because I've had people tell

me he's LeBron, Peyton, Manning, Joe, Montana, Tom Brady. It is nonsense. The media is over at skis on this. And I am America's honesty broker. And so if he stinks, I'm going to say I like him, but I told you so. But can, okay, listen, if he's, if he's terrible, then yes.

And I agree with you. I don't like comps to begin with. I think they're nonsense. Coms. They've taken it a step further. It's like saying your pastor's, you know, the Lord's Savior. It's like slow down. Everyone should pump the brakes.

I agree. I don't like putting these expectations on rookies to begin with. In a normal season, I think it's nonsense and ridiculous to do that. This year, it's absurd. But I think we can still tell the difference between, someone who's struggling because the team around them is not great. And you can tell that they're having trouble, you know, picking things up because they didn't have a full off season program and someone who is just bad.

Right? Yes. No, I think, I think, yeah, like not equipped to be a franchise quarterback is obvious. Right. You can tell. I remember, I'm not even going to mention the guy's name. I saw a guy about seven, eight years ago. I'm like, oh, that doesn't work at all.

It was like literally a quarter. There's a Notre Dame quarterback. I'm like, nice kid can't play. I think we see that a lot. Yeah, you can just tell. guys that just like they're, it didn't take long on Blaine Gabbard. You could just tell. He didn't like getting hit. By the way, I wouldn't want to get hit either.

Well, yeah, that's, but you have to, you have to at least tolerate getting hit if you are a NFL quarterback. Yeah. It's like, it's a player in general. If you're scared of the sound of Aaron Donald bashing your head, you can't play in the league. I don't know that anyone isn't not scared of that, but just aware that that's a reality that it might happen. Some guys have the ability.

You can, you can, sharks are all over the surface. board and your heart rate doesn't go up. Years ago, I saw this with the late Dale Earnhardt Sr. And somebody did a test where they put a heart monitor on him and he drove around the track and he was coming within an inch of a wall. And his heart rate didn't change one iota. And I'm like, okay, that's why he's Dale Earnhardt Senior. Like some guys just, they can do it.

They don't get nervous in big spots. Well, also, if that's what you do, it's a reality of what you do, right? Like, this is your business. It's just like fighters. I'm not going in an oxy. I've seen nervous fighters. Right, and we see how that ends. I saw Michael Spinks against Tyson.

If you're a great fighter, you don't have, you have the nervousness of like, I have to go perform, but you're not afraid of getting hit. It's a part of it. So Tiger Woods is making his return this weekend at the Memorial Tournament. After a five month break from the PGA tour, he got some practice at Murfield Village yesterday. He said it will be a big adjustment playing without the fans' energy to feed off. But he's excited to get back out there. he'll be paired with Rory McElroy and Brooks Kepka when the tournament kicks off tomorrow. So that's exciting.

He's never been, you know, high five fan guy. I think Tiger will be fine. Like some guys could feed off it, but Tiger's never been. Yeah, but Tiger, I mean, Tiger, you see the crowd follow Tiger? Oh, he's like, I mean, you want to talk about a pastor to Lord and Savior comparison. I mean, it's just like, it's just like a crowd just following him. ever YouTube Tiger Woods 10 greatest shots? You ever YouTube that?

People, it doesn't even make any sense. Tiger was so great and so popular. I mean, he does stuff. You're watching, you know, when everybody falls in love with Rory and Brooks and Bryson, Tiger Woods for 10 years, that is a, the world's biggest meteor, and there's never been anything that feels like a pebble next to it. I think the closest, I'm trying to think of an athlete that has taken their sport. Over.

Totally over. Other than Michael Jordan. That's it. It's Michael and him. That is it. Yeah, I can't. Because I'm trying to think of an NFL comparison, and I can't think of one. I mean, LeBron played with Kobe.

LeBron, I mean, LeBron didn't take the sport over. It was Duncan early. It was Kobe. Michael made the sport international. Like, the dream team was the team that was responsible for introducing the NBA to the rest of the world. And Michael was the reason why the dream team was so successful. When the Chicago Bulls came to your town, I was a reporter. they did not lead the sports.

It led the news. Yeah. Like LeBron comes to your town. It doesn't lead the local news. Maybe in Milwaukee or OKC. When LeBron in regular-sized cities, the Bulls were in town, oh, Michael Jordan's in your city today

was the lead story on news. That's how big they were for years. Yeah, Tiger had that power too. Fox bet has Tiger Woods tied for ninth best odds at plus $2,800 to win this weekend. Finally, our favorite story of the day, The NBA set up a hotline for those in Orlando to anonymously report bubble violations. And the league has reportedly received numerous tips.

Some of those tips have resulted in players receiving warnings, no quarantines or suspensions yet from that. Are you surprised that multiple players this early have been? No. So you're not? Do you think they're leaving for food or? Well, uh,

Sean Holmes said he left the campus to get a food delivery. Okay. Which doesn't make any sense to me because there's food everywhere. There's food everywhere. And you know you can't. I mean, if you really were going to get a food delivery, why wouldn't you just request that and have someone get it for you? But I mean, we're a couple days in.

They're already saying there's multiple, multiple reports. But this is the thing, though. I don't know how you investigate these tips because are you snitching on your own players? Are you snitching on your own team? I don't know. I think in general, no. Right. So you have, in theory, something to gain from someone being quarantined for two weeks.

Like, regardless of whether the season has started or not, being quarantined in your room for two weeks is going to affect your conditioning and you're getting ready for the season. So if you're snitching on other teams, how do they investigate these tips? Like, if you don't know where they're coming from, how do you know how authentic they are? Well, here's your thing. It's crazy. me.

I suspected you'd see this week four. Right. This is day two. Right. And I understand it's for the overall health of the bubble. No, no, no, we all, everybody gets that. Right, right, right, right. But how do you regulate it?

How do you, how do you enforce it? How do you investigate it? Like, you have to know who's given the tip, right? Because then don't you have to ask them like, where did you see it? And then were they really outside of the bubble? I don't know. I just think, like my kids. It's so crazy.

When my kids were young and we'd go on a road trip. Right. You had to plan for the road trip because they would melt down, but you hope they melt down hour three. If kids melt down in minute four, it's a long trip. You got NBA guys day two are trying to get out of the bubbles. Like, that is... Are they getting out of the bubble or are they just not being responsible? Like, Rishon Holmes said he accidentally left the campus to receive a food delivery.

I find that... Okay. Did you go there? Not, no... That's what I'm saying. Like, you know you can't do that. You can't do that. There's no way they didn't explain that you can't leave to get postmates.

The whole thing is good. All right, joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. We'll play Dak to the Future. I'm going to predict DAC's performance this year. All the numbers going forward.

It appears to be a franchise tag as we predicted and not a long-term deal. Back to the Future coming up next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHard Radio app. You okay, feeling older, either of mine, not ready to give up, don't you? Check out MDrivefermen.com, MDrive for Men.com. Dack Day today, we'll know within the hour if it's a long-term deal or a franchise deal.

I guessed, I predicted franchise, that's where we're at today. This is the 30th anniversary this month of Back to the Future. Remember the Doc? Crazy. Doc Brown, right? And so today we're going to play we're going to play Great, give me the sound bite here,

John Goulet. Great Scott. We're playing DAC to the future. Dak to the future. Yes. And we're using sound bites from this as we play DAC to the future. So it's a great Scott. It's a great press Scott. Right, yeah. Get it? Great Scott. All right. Here we go. Ready to go? Yes. Will DAC throw for

28 plus touchdowns? Great. Prescott. That'd be a great. Great. Scott. Yeah. He threw for 30s. touchdowns last year, and everybody said Jason Garrett stinks. So with Mike McCarthy and C.D. Lamb being added, I think he would, I think he would get close to that number, yes. Will Dak have a passer rating of 100 or more for the season?

I do not see that happening. I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. No. So he's only had one season with a passer rating over 100. That was when that offensive line was absolutely in its prime four years ago. It's no longer in its prime. They've lost their Hall of Fame. level center and it's no OTAs. So that's asking a lot. Getting over a pass rating of over 100 is really elite territory. Will he throw for 4,000 yards this season? Yes, Dak will.

Yes. Great Scott. I mean, he threw for 4,900 last year. And again, we're getting a coaching upgrade and a wide receiver upgrade. And it should be noted, 4,000 yards. It's something but 11 quarterbacks in the NFL last year through for 4,000 yards. So that's not really, it feels almost like 4,500 now is sort of the elite barrier. Will they win the NFC East, the Cowboys?

No, they will not. Guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. Philadelphia is better. Philadelphia beat them last year and was falling apart physically. Philadelphia's got the same head coach back. Philadelphia has absolutely upgraded on the two issues we had last year, wide receiver and secondary. And it's a tough off season as we've talked about COVID to be a new head coach. So will the Cowboys make the playoffs?

No, they will not. I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. Yeah, it should be noted. Dallas down the stretch last year was five and eight. They were not a good football team last year. And Dallas was also last year, one and six against playoff teams. So this was not a team that lined up against elite quarterbacks and one shootouts. This was a team that beat crappy teams really, really well.

Will Doc make the play? Pro Bowl. No, he will not. Guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. Yeah. Let's just think about Tom Brady now came over to the NFC with the best weapons arguably in football. Brady Wilson, Russell Wilson, Rogers, Wentz, Ryan.

So Brady Wilson, Rogers, Wentz, Ryan. Breeze Garoppolo. I'm not going to count Kirk Cousins, Gough, Kyler, seven guys potentially that will have big statistical years. Be a pro bowler in the NFC now, you've got to be Hall of Fame stuff. It's just too many good... And I'm not even counting the guys I like like, like, Gough and Kyler.

Keep in mind, they could all bail because they're in the playoffs, and then they would... Eventually, he would be the next replacement. That's good. Will Dak be a cowboy in 2021? Yes, he will. Great. Scott! It's the franchise tag's the cheaper option.

Yeah, I mean, the only two options for Dallas here, he's going to be great and you're going to resign him, or he's going to be mad, and you're going to resign him again. I don't think, do I think Dallas has a chance to be awful? No, I do not. I think Dallas has a chance to be eight and eight, nine and seven and missed the playoffs. Dax's not going to be terrible. He threw for 4,900 yards last year, with the coach nobody likes, and they've gotten better offensively, at least on the perimeter.

So he's either going to be really, really good or good enough to give another. franchise tag. You know that franchise tag? He could potentially make. It's amazing the kind of money. $69 million in the state of Texas. In two years. I mean, just think about that. So in the state of Texas, I don't know what the tax, I mean, you would keep 39 million of the 69, probably 40 million of the 69. Think of in two years. He's not married with a bunch of kids. 40 million dollars is what you take home. You could put $25 million into Goldman Sachs. or, you know, Morgan Stanley or wherever you put your money, and that you're set for life.

That's going to grow at 5%, 8%. You could buy a, Dallas, the housing market in Dallas is not L.A., New York. You could buy a $5 million house cash, a $4 million, beautiful vacation house, you know, where you want to go, Hawaii, Caribbean, wherever. So that is 25, and you could live off $7 million a year. That is so much money. And that's the downside of DAC where it doesn't work out perfectly. I'm not, I'm not, maybe it's just, it's franchised me twice and let me go to the market.

That ain't a bad deal either. It's out for Kirk Cousins. Sure, yeah, yeah, sure did. All right, we're done. You're gone tomorrow, I think, and Friday. You're going somewhere fancy. I am back digging ditches tomorrow. It's the hurt.

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