The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Dak Prescott, Nascar, Jamal Adams, MLB, Patriots

Episode Date: June 23, 2020

Colin discusses Dak Prescott wanting a shorter deal, Nascar finally moving in the right direction, why Jamal Adams wants to be traded, the proposed 60 game MLB season, and why the Patriots won't make the playoffs. Guests include Danny Kanell, Jon Paul Morosi, Dan Fouts, and Stanford Routt. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ah, here we go on a Tuesday. We are live in Los Angeles, and this is The Hurd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1, Danny Connell this hour, Dan Fouts last, next hour. Great to have you in. It's Tuesday. Joy Taylor, how are you? I'm doing good. How are you?

I am good. I got home yesterday. Worked out, went to the grocery store, and I watched Yellowstone. I watched a big TV day yesterday. You know, wife's not around right now for a few days. So I just sat and watched television all night long. I never do that. There's no sports. I watched NASCAR. Then I watched Yellowstone.

It was a great TV night. By myself, eating cereal, watching television. It was great. What's your cereal? Oh, I buy all this grainy crap that's supposed to be good for you. Really? Yeah, nothing fun. It's just all nonsense.

I buy a different one every week. I don't believe in healthy cereal. Come on. You got to get the sugary stuff. My mom made me eat raisin brand. My late mother was really into that whole brand, raisin brand thing. So I was in the bathroom every 15 minutes as a kid,

but I guess I was healthy. So there you go. Speaking of a healthier franchise, let's start with this, the Dallas Cowboys. So the Cowboys are apparently stunned that Dak Prescott doesn't want a five-year contract. Dak Prescott wants a four-year contract. Truth is he'd rather have a three-year contract.

So in life, this is basically how it works in business, sports, everything. Doesn't matter what business you're in. You can be in tech. You can be in Wall Street. The more talented you are, the shorter contract you want. Because that allows you to hit the market again so people can bid on you. The NFL is obviously different because unlike a tech guy or a Wall Street woman, you get tackled in football. So it depends on your health.

If you're sturdy, Dak, Russell, Wilson. By all means, take a shorter contract, hit the market. If you've had a few injuries, Carson Wentz, Aaron Rogers, Deshawn Watson, Jimmy Garapolo, I would argue take the extra year of guaranteed salary. But let's talk DAC right here. Dak, if nothing else, is sturdy. He didn't get hurt in college. He doesn't get hurt in the NFL. He gets banged around. He's good. My question is, so I get DAC wanting fewer years. Dak right now is like, I'll take fewer years. I want to hit the market again. And I've said this for years and years about quarterbacks in the NFL. It's brutal. They get trapped. LeBron never gets trapped. Anthony Davis doesn't get trapped. NFL

quarterbacks get trapped. My question is, why would the Dallas Cowboys want five years? And that's nothing against DAC. But let me throw out a scenario to you. And I think about this all the time. Anytime I've gotten into a business, the one thing I'm always concerned about is getting trapped in a bad business. Do I have an escape clause? Can I get out of it? So I'm going to set up a scenario for Dallas. Maybe it's a worst case scenario, but it's not meteor hitting the earth. Three things, let's say they happen over the next three or four years. Number one, Carson Wentz remains really, really, really good.

I'd say that's like 95%. Number two is Daniel Jones, good rookie year, just keeps getting better. You got yourself, a real quarterback. And then Dwayne Haskins doesn't work. and Washington's bad, and they get a really good quarterback next year in the draft, of which we think there are minimum two, potentially three to four great quarterbacks. Uh-oh. So Philadelphia would have a first-round quarterback, and New York's have a first-round quarterback,

and Washington would have a first-round quarterback, and I've got a fourth-round quarterback, and I potentially have the fourth-most talented quarterback in the division. That's called being trapped. Let me read to you how the fourth best quarterback in a division did last year. Cincinnati last. Jacksonville last. Chargers. Philip was bad last year. Last. Detroit, Stafford got hurt. Last. Arizona, last. Carolina. Kyle Allen, most of the year last. That's what happens when you have the fourth best quarterback in a division. This is not a shot at DAC. I understand he's durable and he thinks, hey, I want to hit the market.

My question with Dallas is, there's a very real scenario that Wence is already better maintains that. Daniel Jones looked pretty darn good to me and keeps getting better. And Washington is bad and gets one of the top quarterbacks. There's very few teams this year in the NFL, I think, have a chance to be really bad. Cincinnati, New York Giants could be, you got to wait and see if Joe Judge can coach. And Washington, if the Dwayne Haskins thing goes sideways. Those could potentially be five and 11, four and 12 teams. I'll wait on Arizona.

I think they have a little bit of a life offensively. So to me, I don't understand Dallas wanting to get locked in for five years. The other thing is college football now, and this has been like a four to five year like trend, is giving us unbelievable college quarterbacks. Like, unbelievable college quarterbacks. There has never been a conveyor belt of talented 21-year-old guys coming out of the league. Do you want to get into a relationship where you have, with a guy that is kind of Kirk Cousins.

So I get DAC wanting a shorter contract. I do not get the Dallas Cowboys demanding a longer contract. Let me shift to this. One of the things you are noticing in America, and we talked about this, I think Joy and I talked about this multiple times. For the next 10 years and beyond, it's a bad place for rigid people.

It's just bad. You've got to be willing to change. And America is changing fast. I'll give you an example. 12 years ago, Barack Obama was running for president and he was going up against Hillary Clinton. Remember that?

Now, those are liberals. Those are liberals. Those crazy liberal people. They were both against gay marriage and the legalization of pot. As liberals. Today, you look at that and think, my God, you could not be a Democrat and run

and be either one of those. That's how America's changed in 12 years. pivoting, being able to pivot. And I've said, I'm not into this. Go back to Twitter. This guy said something nine years ago. If you're demanding growth, don't demand perfection. People make mistakes.

Was Obama today, if you had that approach on gay marriage, a lot of people would just call anybody that said that a bigot. I don't think he's that. Look at his resume. Look at his life. People change. We can't demand growth and perfection. Life perfection.

But yesterday, NASCAR, which over the last 15, 20 years, has gotten old, stale, rigid, and I got to be honest, as a West Coast guy, it feels intolerant to me. You've got to give them credit. They have pivoted fast. Yesterday may have been the greatest day NASCAR has had in over a decade. If you did not watch pre-race, Bubba Wallace, Super Bowlis, supported standing with Bubba, all the racers. It was incredible, emotional. Jimmy Johnson, one of the all-time greats, apparently after the news was found in the garage of Bubba Watson, sent a text and emailed everybody. I'm going to stand next to him at the anthem.

Everybody signed up. The race itself, Bubba led for a while, was really good, and the ending was nuts. that is how you pivot. NASCAR's been old and regional, the Confederate flag. It's just been, and by the way, the audience now is like 60 years old is like the medium viewer. It's not good for advertising.

It's not good for where we're going. But yesterday, the pre-race, the race, the finish. Yesterday, NASCAR, honestly, felt more like Nike than car racing. that's how you pivot. Now we could sit here. I could sit here in front of the microphone and go, yeah, but just last week you were into the Confederate flag

and you've shown intolerant. If you're asking for growth, let's not demand historic perfection. NASCAR grew yesterday. It was cool. It felt young. It felt tolerant. It felt exciting.

Here was Bubba after. The sport is changing. The deal that happened yesterday, sorry I'm not wearing my mask, but I wanted to show whoever it was that you're not going to take away my smile. And I'm going to keep on going. All in all, we won today. The pre-race deal.

The pre-race deal was probably one of the hardest things I've ever had to witness in my life from all the supporters, from drivers, from crew members, everybody here. the badass fan base. Thank you guys for coming out here. This is truly incredible and I'm proud to be a part of this sport. It was just great. By the way, for the people who threatened to boycott Nike for Kaepernick, the 10% that leave,

if it's that. Bye. For the 10, 15% NASCAR, Confederate flag, I'm out. Bye. If the NFL ratings dip because players put a knee. Bye. then it's up to the leagues, Nike, NASCAR, NFL, and the companies aligned with them to market and seek younger people. I mean, they always say, I remember growing up with the guy, Jack Welch, I think, was his name.

He was a legendary CEO. He ran NBC for years, and he said, you know, you got to fire 5% of your company every year. And people thought, ooh, maybe you have to fire 5% of your fans every year. Maybe that's where we're at. but I thought yesterday was a great, great American business story, how to pivot to the new world. And by the way, it's all good. It's all fun. I don't even have sports and I love my job.

I've had to pivot in the last four months be a sports talk show host with no sports. It's all good. We're getting through it. Joy and I fist bump every day. Another show. Cross our fingers. A league comes back. for NASCAR. Great pivot. Coming up next, not great news for the New York Jets. Not just that

Jamal Adams is demanding a trade, but it's starting to look like another player and another team. It's really starting to look like a situation the Jets may not be able to get out of. And I'll compare it to something. And I think you'll see the similarities. And it didn't end up Well, for that team. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

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and now he's really stepped it up. He wants out. He's demanding a trade. Yesterday, he's on social media, and it was not a subtle message to co-safety Marcus May, who's very good, not as good as Adams, but very good. He said, brother, just keep being you. Show the world.

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So what is he telling you? He just wants to play for a winner. This is now Jalen Ramsey of the Jags. It's the same situation. Think about Jalen Ramsey and think about Jamal Adams. Both great Southern football stars, five-star Southern football college guys, both great defensive backs, both high draft picks,

both were immediately great in the NFL. Both are huge personalities, and they're both stars. I mean, they feel, look, sound like stars. And the Jags and the Jets have a lot in common. Offenses that never get it right. Bad O lines, very little firepower. Anytime you have success, it's brief, constantly picking high in the draft,

both O is kind of trying to find the next quarterback and think the guy they have is the guy. Jalen Ramsey and Jamal Adams. It's the same guy. It's the same situation. Jalen Ramsey was like, it's not about the money. I just want to play for a winner. I'm a winner.

And that's what Jamal Adams is saying. I'm a winner. Have been my whole life. One big in high school. One big in college. Not interested in this mess. And what makes it difficult for Joe Douglas, the young and smart general manager of the Jets,

I really think he's bright. Here's the problem. He not only has to figure out the money thing with Jamal Adams, he's got to convince Jamal Adams, hey, we are winners. Okay, well, Belichick's the best football coach in America. He's still in the division. Buffalo is a playoff team. I think they got better during the draft than Stefan Diggs.

They're absolutely better than the Jets. And I like what I see in Miami. Jamal Adams isn't dumb. He plays those teams twice a year. They get crushed every time they play the Patriots. He sees what Buffalo is doing as a playoff team. team. Josh Allen thing's working. He sees Miami

and what they did down the stretch five and four. So Joe Douglas has to convince him the money thing and hey, we're winners. You know, when I got out of college, when Joy gets out of college, we get to choose where we go. Athletes don't. And increasingly, with social media, winning players

don't want to hang around losers. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. By the way, the eight teams, all Adams put up you wanted to go to? They were all winning teams. They were the eight highest Vegas Fox Bet Super Bowl teams. He's telling you what he wants. It's not just about money. Just get me to a winning organization so I can be a TV star and be an NFL star and win

football games. I mean, we say it all the time. We can hypothetically do this until we're 90, right? I mean, the tie won't last long on air, but we have a much longer career path in this business than athletes do. You have a very short window to not only make your money, but to be successful and establish your legacy. You don't waste time with an organization that doesn't really want to pay you and isn't going to put you in a position to be successful. If you have some leverage to take control of your career, you should always take it. So Jared Stidham has some big shoes to fill as the quarterback in New England.

And former Patriots offensive line coach, Jontes Garnekiah, says the team will have to be ready to make some adjustments for their new young quarterback. Right. Number one, he doesn't have the wealth of experience that Tom has. So there's going to be some growing things. There's no doubt about it. But the guy does have skills. He's got a great mind.

He cares. He shows up early. He goes home late. And I wish him nothing but the best. If it's still there, I will just say, you know, I look at fellows, we got to do everything we can to make this guy as comfortable as we can. Can I just say, once again, this is the minimum. Right. I knew, actually, I knew you were going to say that.

You got to keep saying, listen, Joy Taylor shows up before the show and works hard. That's the minimum. It's the it which makes this work. I don't care about the show. Like, what's the Chris Rock? You used to have some joke about this. You know, I love my kids. And he used to say, that can't be what you say about your kids.

You're supposed to love your kids. It's what you do beyond loving your kids. Like in the end here, showing up early and leaving late is the minimum for a franchise quarterback. That's just the paperwork to get in the door. But there are guys that don't do that. We know that. And we don't usually find that out until later on.

And we're like, you know, why didn't this work? There was so much talent and, you know, so much potential. You know what I care about? And then it's like, oh, well, you know, he wasn't a leader. He wasn't there early and leaving late. Every quarterback that works in this league, we've said this before. There is something you can't explain.

That's what great is. Mahomes does stuff and you're like, how does he throw it without looking? You know, Wence. Jared Stidham, you're telling me all the things that I can explain. He parks his car at 545. Most guys get here at 6.10.

I want to see something that I can't explain. Like Tom Brady's literally kept winning Super Bowls and wanted it more than next year. Like Michael Jordan, you're like, okay, you're the best player. Why are you so driven now? Like, the stuff you can't explain tells me, like Russell Wilson, he never gets hit.

Right. I can't explain that. All I'm hearing from the Patriots is stuff I can explain. Well, I know that coach is being complimentary of Jared Stidham. But again, I try to actually listen to what is being said. And it's actually not very, very good what he said, which is that he needs to be extremely comfortable. We know that in the NFL, you rarely are extremely comfortable. Very rarely do you have an offensive line that is so good that you just have all the time you need as a young quarterback to be comfortable.

You're going to be put into situations where you're uncomfortable. What are you doing those moments? That's the it factor that we're talking about. Again, I'm just not optimistic about the Patriots this year. And I don't know why that is so edgy to say. We don't know what Jared Sidham is. And you have Dante Starnecchio saying he's a great guy. Listen, it's wonderful.

It's important to be a good person, right? Again, like, the bare minimum, you should be a good person and work hard. That doesn't necessarily translate to being a great quarterback. So two NBA players have decided to opt out of the season restart in Orlando, Portland's Trevor Reza, will reportedly skip the remainder of the season, committing instead to a one-month visitation with his son. And the Wizards, Davis Bertons, will also sit out the entire free agency after the, and enter a free agency after the season.

He's got injury stuff. Yeah, both of those I saw it and I went, yeah, I get that. I totally get that. Well, Trevor Rees is involved with the custody battle that requires a one-month visitation with his son. So that makes sense. And again, I said this last week, you're going to have guys who are sitting out for personal reasons alone. It's not necessarily what's going on with Corona. And, I mean, in Berton's case, it kind of is because he doesn't want to get injured and lose out on money that he's going to potentially make in free agency.

By the way, the NBA did something really good yesterday. The NBA came out, Joy, and said they bought huge insurance policies for COVID, career-ending injuries. I thought it was actually one of these stories that didn't get reported much. NBA came out yesterday and covered a lot of stuff with huge insurance policies. Yeah, a lot of the young guys were pushing for that as well, guys that are going into their extension here because it's a huge risk for these players. Yeah, so that happens and you don't get your major extension and make all your money. So I do think there are going to be other players who end up opting out as well. And I don't think they should be criticized for it.

This is an extreme situation. That's right. Even if they didn't have any concerns about Corona and didn't have any injury concerns, and it was just a family concern, I'm fine with that. This is not a situation that anyone should be expected to participate in. Although, you know, we obviously want sports back and appreciate them putting themselves in that space to bring sports back. I will not hold it against anyone who decides not to participate in it. So finally, the Knicks have been linked to Tom Thibodeau, Kenny Atkinson, and interim.

coach Mike Miller in their head coaching search. And now two more names have been added to the mix. Jason Kidd and Mike Brown are reportedly set to interview for the job as well. I mean, if Fisdale couldn't work, why would they work? It's all about the owner. It doesn't even matter who they hire. You know, this is

this kind of the point where I've reached with the Nix, where I get to a NICS story and I'm like, why do I still care what they're doing? Because when New York NICs basketball was great, it was unbelievable. Of course. And that's what it comes back to, but how long ago was that? I know. And what potential do

any of these guys have to be successful? Like you said, David Fitzsale, very well respected around the league, had great potential as a young coach. Players loved him. He fought for his players. It didn't work out. They have a young team. You're going to bring in someone who has either

failed at developing young players with some of these guys. And even if they have the full potential and a capability to be a great head coach, nothing has changed in the front office and the ownership that would make me think that this is going to go differently. The New York Knicks have become Tennessee volunteer football. Like, I'm tired of hearing about what you're going to be.

Like, if 20 years you can't get it right, then you're just too dysfunctional. There's something happening inside Tennessee football that is limiting your ability to grow. Alabama football's had bad years, but they always eventually get it right. Oklahoma gets it right. Ohio State gets it right. Tennessee's been irrelevant for 20 years. You got something in your infrastructure that doesn't work. The Knicks have a guy named James Dolan.

It doesn't matter if you have to coach right. You still have a bad owner and he'll be hovering over the scouting department. You'll butcher the draft. So like, I'm just done. When you have problems that are within the organization, you can't find it. It's a broken foundation. So no matter what you try to build on it with the Knicks, it's always going to end up crumbling because they haven't fixed the actual root of the problem.

But again, every single time it comes up, I'm like, I'm interested because it's the Knicks. I think that's a me problem. I just have to do it next. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. He was the best football player in the ACC in the mid-90s.

Danny Connell played in the NFL for seven years. New York Giants. Now CBS Sports and others. Danny's joining me. Brought to you by Mercedes-Benz, the best or nothing, a coward global satellite network. All right, my guy, Danny Connell. Let's start with this.

So it was interesting this morning. Dak wants four years. The Cowboys want five. And my takeaway is if you're talented in any business, you should want a shorter contract to get you back to the market sooner, especially if you're durable. Like if you're Jimmy Garoppolo, I'll take the extra year. If I'm Deshawn Watson or Wentz and I've been hurt, I'll take the extra year. I am surprised, though, the Cowboys would demand longer years. And my takeaway is, we don't know if McCarthy and DAC works.

Are you surprised at all that DAC's the one that wants to break the relationship up sooner? Yeah, I mean, I think Jack Prescott is, is tired of, you know, being a fourth round pick making league minimum. I think he wants the respect that he is deserved. I mean, he's gone out there and he's outperformed clearly his draft position. And I think with Dak Prescott, why he is so stuck on the four years is look at the quarterbacks who went one and two in his draft class. And Jared Gough and Carson Wentz, both of them just got four-year extensions before this past season. And that's what Dak Prescott is looking at. He's saying, what more do I have to do to prove my worth? I just want fair market value. I just want to get paid what I should have been when I came out,

when I was, you know, misjudged coming out of Mississippi State. And he just wants that value. Now, to your point, are you a little bit surprised? I am. I'm surprised and said, you know what? I haven't. I really had that massive payday. Let me just take the five years, get the big guarantee, and let's just put it to bed. But I think this is his agent. And I think his people are telling him, you at least have to get the same thing that Jared Gough and Carson Wentz does. And I think that's a very fair thought process to go through for Dak Prescott. You know, it's interesting with Jamal Adams. I was saying this, it's starting to look like Jalen Ramsey.

Southern football stars, both D.Bs, high draft picks, great immediately, a winning history, go to losing franchises with bad offenses, and they're just tired of it. And Jalen Ramsey, they were going to give him everything. And he said, I want to go play with a winner. I want to go to L.A. And Jamal Adams listed eight teams, Danny. They were all winners. And it's feeling like Jets, Jags are not that different as organizations.

You played in New York with the Giants. The Jets were always sort of a roll your eyes franchise. Is Jamal Adams just becoming Jalen Ramsey? I'm a winner. I don't want to play with losers. I hope so. I hope that's his mentality because I don't think it's just about the money. I mean, professional athletes get a bad rap sometimes because, and they should.

but they want to get the maximum value. They want to get the most paid. But some guys just want to win. Colin, I've been part of both organizations. I've been part of winning franchises when I was the Broncos, went to back to the back playoffs. You know, when I was on the Giants, we went to the playoffs one year,

but I've also been on bad franchises. Nothing sucks the life out of you to be a bad team. I'm serious. Like, it makes you want to just, man, just you show up to work, you start going through the motions. You forget why you play the game. It's to win.

And if you feel helpless in that position and you have some leverage, Jamal Adams doesn't really have a lot of leverage, but your only piece of leverage is saying, hey, I'm going to voice this concern. I'm going to go out there and demand a trade. He's trying to do that into today's era. Jalen Ramsey is a great example. He stomped his fist on the table more than enough times

where the Jacksonville Jaguars finally say, now what the Jets need is the partner. Because remember, the Rams gave up two first and a fourth round pick. I don't think he's going to command that, but I think some team will give a first and something, and that gets the deal done. And I think it's probably going to be the Dallas Cowboys, which I would love for Jamal Adams, to be able to dictate his own way, to go to a team where maybe he is the difference on the defensive side of the ball for the Cowboys that puts them over the hump and makes them a true Super Bowl contender.

By the way, the Jets do have another really good safety in Marcus May. They drafted, many are calling it the sleeper of the draft, a kid out of Cal, a safety. So, I mean, to your point, if you gave me a first, And then maybe you gave me another kind of starting something, pass rusher, corner. It's not like the Jets here couldn't get something out of it. I mean, the Raiders did very well with Khalil Mack. This could be a win-win situation. Let me move to another win-win situation, I think.

We forget sometimes that guys who were signed as backups can flourish. Nick Foles a few years ago, Ryan Tannihil last year. A lot of people think Marcus Mariotta is going to start in. Las Vegas sooner than later. I look at Cam Newton and I see him as a starter, but I'm thinking to myself, would he be better off? We've got a recent history here. Go be the backup for an average quarterback. And there's still about six, seven teams like that in this league.

We know he's not going back to Carolina. But I mean, if you were Cam and you had his resume, would you demand starting or think, no, I saw Tanna Hill. No, I saw Nick Foles. By the way, Teddy Bridgewater ended up being a great backup, and then he got rich. What would you do? Well, I think Cam Newton only has one option, and it's the option that I would have told him from day one, because he really got hosed on the timing of all of this often, right?

He was coming off of major injuries. He couldn't get healthy. Then we have the coronavirus, so he couldn't get examined by team medical experts. And so really this offseason was really a game of musical chairs for big name starting quarterbacks, one being Tom Brady. And then once Tom Brady went, it was like, okay, where else those chairs started to fill up really fast. Philip Rivers went to the Indianapolis Colts.

You know, James Winston goes to the Saints. Nick Foll to the Bears, a lot of spots that would have been attracted for Cam Newton. Because there really is an attractive option now and really even at backup position, there's not an attractive option for Cam Newton. I think his best course of action is to stay ready, to stay in shape, and some position will open. Last year, we had a rash of starting quarterbacks go down to injuries. And, you know, Drew Bree's only missed three or four weeks.

Patrick Mahomes only missed three or four weeks. And they had good backup situations. We're able to maintain some team, the Seahawks, I mean, there's a bunch of teams out there. I look at their backups and I say, man, this team is in massive trouble if their starter goes down. But if the starter gets hurt or think about the COVID the COVID 19 problem, if a quarterback goes down for two weeks, they're going to need a team is going to need an instant starter, somebody with credibility, with experience, and with the type of, you know, leadership and skills to be able to lead your franchise. I ultimately think that's what Cam Newton is going to

have to do. He's going to have to sit back and wait for that opportunity. And I feel horrible for him. It could not have worked out worse, timing wise, pandemic, all these things against him. But maybe he gets that opportunity due to injury during the season and maximizing because I still think he has a lot of good football left in. Well, he does. And by the way, the video, when you watch him work out, I think it's been incredibly instructive. I think it's been beneficial. I think I've talked to people on this. I think it's doing him a big favor. He looks to be in very good shape. Doesn't hurt when Cam takes the shirt off. Cam's out. Cam looks thin. I went and looked at video this morning of Cam from his second year in the league. And he looked thin. He started his body shape looks a lot more like year two

Cam than last year, Cam. Finally. Baker Mayfield, year three. Danny, I want you to go back to your year three. It was bumpy. You come in, you don't get the reps, maybe you change a coordinator. Do you think year three for Baker Mayfield is different? Did the light go on for Danny Connell in year three? So I only got 20 starts in my career, like back to back.

I started 10 years, my second year, or 10 games my second year, 10 years, 10 games. my third year. Baker's well beyond that right now. Already started two seasons. And I wish I would have gotten 10 more to get up to 30 games. I really think you need three seasons, complete seasons, to really find your footing as an NFL quarterback. That is where Baker Mayfield is entering, his third season. Now, he's had a lot go against him. He's had his fourth head coach. He's had a couple different coordinators that he's had to work through. But I totally agree with you. I think this is the season that decides the rest of Baker Mayfield's career. I don't think think he has to go out and have an MVP type season, but he clearly needs to show massive

from both on the field and off the field. But I think the Cleveland Browns have done an outstanding job. They drafted Jedrick Wills to shore up the left side of that offensive line. They put pieces of the puzzle around him, healthy Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, solid tight end. Nick Chub is one of the better running backs in the league. He has everything right now to take his career and extend it, to show people that he's worthy of being a And I think he'll live up to it, but man, it's going to be a bumpy ride. It's going to be fun to watch. Like, let's see if he can be this new Baker Mayfield that stays quiet, goes to work,

and goes out there and delivers. Danny Canal, CBS Sports headquartered there, former NFL quarterback. Love having him on. Great college guy as well. Thanks, buddy. You got it, Colin. Great being on. All right.

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like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, A, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out. Quarterback on office, Blue, 42. A rep, my mama want you to wave at her.

What? Where's he at? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Well, it looks like we'll have a baseball season. Baseball has targeted the owners and the commissioners a 60 game season that will start around July 24th a week before the NBA. So as of this morning, it looks like we'll have soccer MLS, July 8th.

We'll have baseball July 24th. We'll have the NBA July 30th. So here's what worries me about all the sports, but specifically baseball. Players are going to get COVID. I'm comfortable having a league with young athletes getting COVID. I am. I've looked at all the data. Therapeutics, better than they've been.

Everybody will get tested frequently. zero to 28-year-old professional athletes are the single safest group. Baseball is going to manage this. It's just like how we manage every crisis in America. We don't solve mental health. 47,000 Americans commit suicide annually. We don't solve it. We manage it the best we can.

How will baseball manage it? Will there be media panic every time somebody gets COVID? You cannot have baseball without contact. It's ridiculous. I mean, even when they deliver a pizza to my door through DoorDash, somebody grabbed a bag. Something got touched, but we've discovered that's not really how you get COVID-19. So my first question, my first concern is,

players are going to get in these separate cities, contact. They're going to get COVID. How do we deal with that? I am comfortable with professional leagues and college athletes getting it and getting through it. Most are asymptomatic statistically. So I am, I'm not sure how media is going to be. And the media dictates a lot of what these leagues do.

They don't want to get bad press. This tyranny of the mob. How can you do this to athletes? That's my first concern. Here's the upside for baseball. I've always said, I wrote this in the books I've written. baseball's problem is not length of game. College football and NFL football, the games are longer than they've ever been.

The ratings are up. The problem in Major League Baseball is not television ratings. It doesn't matter. These networks are desperate for sports. It doesn't matter if your ratings are up or down. You're going to get paid by somebody. Hockey gets paid a lot. Hockey's ratings have been irrelevant forever.

Hockey still gets paid. They get paid in Canada. They get paid by our networks. Hell, NBC buys the English Premier League. We'll buy anything. urgency is back in baseball. This is the best part of it. What hurts baseball is there's 162 games.

Nothing matters until the fall. We are going to get for the first time in my life, and certainly the first time in this phone era where we get everything urgently, you're going to see a three-game series over the weekend at Dodger Stadium, Yankee Stadium, and it's going to matter. Like who wins? They split the first two games. Who wins Sunday?

60 games means you go in a five-game losing streak, you're in trouble. You go on a seven-game losing streak, season's over. That's never mattered before. So I think the thing I worry about is how is the media, which I don't really trust on their coverage of COVID-19, to handle it when players get COVID? They're 24-year-old shortstop in the best shape of anybody in his age group. We have all sorts of therapeutics.

The testing's better. You have medical professionals. I'm comfortable with this happening because I know it's going to happen and we manage it. I've said from the very beginning with COVID. It's just another health crisis. I'm 55. I've seen a zillion of them in my life. You just deal with it.

I mean, good God. We had last year, we had 500 kids die of the flu last year in America. 550 kids, 0 to 17. Los Angeles has 40 million people. We've had nobody die of COVID. I feel looking at all the data points and the metrics on this, I feel comfortable having a baseball league with some guys getting COVID. I do.

And the second thing, though, I think it's great for baseball. The urgency is back. You will literally have to watch every game if you're really a baseball fan. Like, every game's going to matter. 60 games is 20% less than the NBA. So I'm excited for it. I think July is going to be great. I probably should have taken more vacation time in June.

But I think we're here. I think we're ready to go. You know, we were talking about Cam Newton a couple minutes ago, and this is interesting. We were talking about Cam Newton, where he's going to go and where he's not going to go. So I was doing this this morning. He's going to end up somewhere. Even if you take out teams in the NFL with very good young quarterbacks that I believe in, they're not going to roll the dice on a cam distraction thing.

Jets, giants, bingles, dolphins, chargers, Denver, Arizona, Washington. So they have a young quarterback. He's growing. They're not going to disrupt him. They're not going to take the chance on, oh, my God, here comes Celebrity Cam. if you take out the four teams that I think have really, really strong backups. They have a starter in a backup. Take out the Saints.

They got Jameson, Winston, Winston, and they got Taysam Hill. Take them out. Take the Cowboys out. They got Dak and Andy Dalton. That's a really good quarterback group. Take the bears out, Trubisky and Foles, and take the Raiders out, Derek Carr, Marcus Moriota. Take those four out.

We're at 12. Now eliminate teams that just drafted a young quarterback that we don't. think is going to play in the near future, but the team clearly sees them as the future. Take the Packers out. They got a great quarterback and Jordan Love. Take the Eagles out. They have a great quarterback, Wenz, and Jalen Hertz. Take the Colts out.

They got Jacob Beeson. They're going to give him a few years running. They also have Jacoby Brissette and Philip Rivers. So 8 plus 4 plus 3 and then take Carolina out because they're not going to go back and get Cam. Okay. That's 16 teams he's not going to. You know how many that leaves? 16. There's a lot of space for camp. I mean, just look at this right now.

Ask yourself, Jared Goff goes down. It's Los Angeles. You think Sean McVey and Les Sneed? Les Sneed has to win some games here. They're opening a new stadium. They got to sell tickets. They've got to win games. You wouldn't roll the dice on it? I think the Rams would consider it. I think the Rams would consider it. Russell Wilson, it's not ideal. But if Russell gets hurt, Pete Carroll's getting closer to 70. You think he wants to limp through a 4-12 season? So for all the Cam Newton doubters, and I've been critical of him, if you take out the areas I knocked out,

which I think are hard spots for him, still half the league. He's going to get a job. Coming up next, why Bama, Ohio State playing in the future is huge for college football. Gigantic for college football. Hour 2 coming up, live in Los Angeles, it's the herd. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHard radio app.

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What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Cliverts show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me. He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.

What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, ref, Mom, I'm a one. I want you to weigh better. What? Where's she at? Hey, Miss Parker.

Listen to the Cliverts show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Ah, it's hour two. We are live in Los Angeles. This is the herd. Wherever you may be, and however, you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1,

Joy Taylor, joining me. It was really good day yesterday at Fox. I thought the NASCAR race was amazing. I thought the race was good. I thought the finish was crazy. I thought the driver supporting Bubba Wallace. And as I said last hour, rigid people, this world is not going to be your ally for the next foreseeable future. You've got to pivot. And I thought NASCAR did an awesome job yesterday. Their drivers, many of their drivers are young, smart dudes, and they just embraced Bubba Wallace. I thought it was awesome.

It was emotional. And it was like, wow. I mean, NASCAR felt more like Nike than NASCAR. And I thought it was a real thing. And I'm here for it. And I've been saying this now. If the Kaepernick crowd wants to protest Nike, see ya. If the Kaepernick crowd wants to protest the NFL, see ya.

And if the Confederate flag crowd wants to protest NASCAR, see ya. We'll lose 15% of those audiences. And it's up to the sports and the networks that have contracts for those sports to promote a younger audience and find new people. But you can't live in fear. You can't live with the threats of boycotts and threats. Live in a world of fear, growth, evolving, and optimism. I choose the latter.

That's the life I want to live, not a life of threats and boycotts and rigidity. And so I thought it was great for NASCAR. It just happened to be on Fox. And Joy Taylor, how are you? I'm great. I thought the race was really fun. Yeah. And it was nuts, by the way.

The end of the race was nuts. Yeah. It came down to the last. One of the guys finished back. It was incredible. So I think, you know, people know I like college football, right? I'm more of an NFL guy than a college guy because I think the college game's gotten kind of regional. But Alabama and Ohio State announced last week late they were going to play.

And this is really important because in terms of, let's just talk about teams that can win the national championship. There's really only two tiers in college football. And I leave out a lot of really good programs, Wisconsin, Washington, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Nebraska. Iowa. I think 2020 going on, they're not national championship programs. There's four programs in America that are just different. Bama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and SC, and let me explain. Forget the fact that all of won national titles with three different head coaches. But if every college football program in America had their best coach ever, these four would dominate the sport. It doesn't matter who coaches LSU and Georgia. If Alabama's got safe,

They dominate the conference. It doesn't matter who coaches Texas. Mack Brown was at Texas for a long time, 15 years. You know how many times you won the Big 12? Twice. Bob Stoops won it 10 times. Oklahoma's the better football program. If Oklahoma's got their best coach ever and Texas has theirs,

Oklahoma wins the conference. Doesn't matter who's coaching Michigan. If Ohio State's got an Urban Meyer or a Woody Hayes, they win the conference. They dominate the conference going forward. They're just more of a recruiting power. Same with USC. They've been down for like eight years.

If USC's got their best coaches ever, John McKay or Pete Carroll, it doesn't matter how good Oregon or Washington or UCLA are. They dominate the conference. There's only four of those. That's it. And now two are playing. There's 12 other programs that are clearly,

in my opinion, capable of winning the national championship. If they get the right coach, the right quarterback. Clemson, Florida, State, Miami from the ACC, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU from the SEC, Michigan, Penn State, Big Ten, Texas, Big 12, Notre Dame's Independent in Oregon. And let me explain that.

Now, Oregon is really a story about Phil Knight 20 years ago deciding I'm going to make it a national program. Uniform stadium facilities. Oregon's got the best facilities in the western states. They're a national program. They recruit L.A., they recruit Texas. They can recruit Utah. they recruit South.

Oregon can win a national championship. They got into the game a few years ago. Now, these 12, if the previous four, Bama, Ohio, State, Oklahoma, USC, have their guy, the best coach in the history of the program, those teams aren't winning national titles

because they've got to get through those four. But these are all capable of it. Now, people say, what about Clemson? What about Clemson? No, no, no, no, no. Slow down, Clemson. Clemson's in a conference with Florida State in Miami. If Florida State had Bobby Bowden

in his prime right now. And Miami had Jimmy Johnson in his prime against Davos Sweeney. Clemson's not making the playoff, brother. They're not getting through those guys. Because Florida State and Miami, especially at Dade Broward County, had way better players that went into the NFL and

were stars. Right now Clemson's beating up on a dreadful ACC where the two other powers are terrible. That doesn't mean Clemson's not a good program, but Clemson, the last five years, has finished top five in the AP poll.

If you take away the last five years, the only other time they did it was in 1981. This is like recency bias. Clemson is rolling now. They're going to roll again this year. I think they'll be very, very good for their foreseeable future. But if Florida State and Miami got their act together, those are better all-time programs. Hate to break it to you.

So there's only 16 teams to me. And I've left out some really good programs. TCU is a great program. Nebraska, Iowa, Utah, Stanford, Washington, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech. I'm not saying they're not good programs. Boise State, BYU. I'm not denying that. But I am saying there's the big four that if they have their best coach ever, they dominate the sport.

And I've seen it in my entire life. I'm not some 28-year-old blogger. I've been watching this thing for 40 years. And then there's 12 beneath them. Again, now people can argue, the big argument people have is Clemson. that's just recency bias. The other argument is, well, Notre Dame's won three national titles with three different coaches. The world's changed from their academic difficulty to their remoteness,

to the fact that I don't count programs that won a lot of their national championships when people took trains the games. As Miami, they've won four national titles with four different coaches. But as Joy can tell you, it's a totally transitional program. Like coaches take the job, want to win, and get the hell out and go to the NFL. It's a Miami's eight. It has no fan base. I remember years ago when they played Nebraska in the Rose Bowl

and nine people showed up for Miami and 108,000 showed up for Nebraska. It's not a traditional program. It's a vagabond program. It's transitional. It's fun. It's wild. I miss the Miami Hurricanes. But it's the four big dogs, the 12 under them.

And the good news now is two of the big dogs, Ohio State and Bama are playing. There you go. Eat it up. All right. Here's the other thing I saw. You know, you hear this all the time. And I said this yesterday. If you look at organizations like the Chicago Bulls,

it's an average franchise. Michael Jordan comes in, makes it great. And we think, and the Bulls are winners. No, Michael was a winner. You take out Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson. The Bulls are a below 500 franchise. That's what they are. That's what I grew up with.

You take the New England Patriots, pre-Tom Brady. in the history of the franchise, they'd only won double-digit games eight times. It was a mediocre franchise. Nobody cared about New England. Bad uniforms, cold, bad stadium. Even in the Northeast, the Steelers were better.

The Eagles were more relevant. The Giants were better. They weren't even that interesting. Washington for years with Joe Gibbs, way better. I only cared about New England. So I don't buy into this thing that, like, Jordan leaves the Bulls.

And everybody goes, man, they're so dysfunctional. No, they're not. The Bulls are what they always were. Pre-Jordan and post-Jordan. It's the same team. Mess. New England, post-Tom Brady, never going to be the same. So when you hear a lot of this, I cannot wait to prove we did not need Tom Brady. Eye roll. Julian Edelman is all kinds of pumped up to prove the Patriot doubters wrong. According to reports, direct quote, he hates excuses.

He's not just a product of Brady. Okay, I would like to deliver some facts here. Julian Edelman has never made a Pro Bowl. He led the NFL in drops last year. Three seasons total in his career where he didn't miss games to injuries. And he has 36 career touchdowns. Randy Moss had over half that in one year with Brady. Julian Edelman is not even Wes Welker.

Wes Welker was a Pro Bowl or five times, all pro once, 5,000-yard seasons. And outside of one year in New England, he got hurt. That's about it. New England. You got to get used to something. You're the Bulls. You're the Bulls pre-Jordan and the Bulls post-Jordan.

That's what New England is. Bill Belichick didn't win in Cleveland. He wasn't winning in New England. Brady is the franchise. Jordan is the franchise. Now, there are franchises. That's not true. makers were good and

before Kobe and Shaq. Hell, they were good before Magic Johnson. The Boston Celtics were good before Larry Bird. Oklahoma football was good before Lincoln Riley. Kentucky basketball, Kansas basketball, they've got a lot of winners, North Carolina basketball.

They got a lot of winning coaches. The Bulls are Jordan and dysfunction. New England, losing and Brady. Julian Edelman, out to prove critics wrong. Irrelevant. simply his his legacy frankly is Brady and pretty good Super Bowls and that's it he was good in Super Bowls good postseason receiver and Brady but they're not getting to the postseason this year

coming up next dan fouts hall of fame quarterback uh he'll love that i put oregon in my second tier 12 he was he was one of the first great oregon players uh that's coming up plus john morosi fox sports baseball we got baseball back we believe 60 games starting in mid too late july Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.

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I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84's big two. me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.

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So I grew up with Dan Fouts. He was at Oregon. And I grew up in the Northwest. And then Dan went to the Chargers. He stayed there forever. And it's really interesting. If you're under 20s or 30s, it's hard to imagine.

The Chargers were so ahead of everybody else in the sport. So Dan was throwing for 4,000 yards when like nobody did that. In the late 70s, he became the first quarterback ever to throw for 4,000 yards in three straight years. Now, you have to remember, this, they had, they threw the ball. And they were, they called it Eric Coriel. And it's interesting.

We're seeing a transformation now in the NFL with Lamar Jackson and people are like, I don't know if it works. And I'm like, no, Dan, Dan, it works. This league's always had a new offense. It's just variations of the same thing. And Lamar's throwing the ball very well. But the idea that you can't reshape it or redefine it. And I thought Dan would be a great guest today for a variety of reasons.

he's joining us the Hall of Fame quarterback. You know, it is funny. When I watch Baltimore, I say to myself, I've been watching this sport, Dan, for 40 years. And there's always a new derivative, a new way to do things. But when you were back with the Chargers and you guys were thrown at 35 times a game, were people calling you too finesse, too fancy? Were you ever hearing criticisms about the way your offense was changing the game? You know, people started to call us finesse until we got to.

Chuck Muncie until we got Kellan Winslow and all that nonsense stopped because neither of those two guys had any finesse to their game just all raw power. But it is a copycat league, although at that time we weren't copying anybody.

We were taking some of the premises and plays from Sid Gilman's offense from the AFL days with the Chargers when he had John Hedle and Lance Allworth and Keith Lincoln and all those great players. But Cori-El, Don Correel, was really the guy that put it all together. And,

you know, if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be talking right now, Colin. You know that. I wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. It wasn't for Don Correale. Yeah. Your offenses, though, offensive protection, Winslow, Deep Threats, Joyner, John Jefferson, it looked different than the rest of the league. And what's interesting is you stayed in San Diego the entire time. And I look at, I think to myself, Tom Brady feels like a patriot. He moves to Tampa, which is not only a different football operation, it's a different sensibility as a city. Can you imagine having played anywhere else, or were you so ingrained in San Diego,

West Coast in that system, it was just not a thought for you? No, it was never a thought because it was such a love affair between the city of San Diego, our fans and our players. There was a lot of interaction in the community long before. all these plan things that are going on now with teams and their foundations and all those great things that players and teams are doing today. We had, as I said, it was a real love affair because we brought such excitement to the city and such notoriety to San Diego.

And I always hear guys from, you know, the back east talk about, you know, we always tuned in on Sundays that afternoon game in San Diego. Yep. It always looks so beautiful and sunny and warm. It was beautiful and sunny and warm. That is funny. Do you think Tom will have success, though, in New England? I mean, the weapons are nice.

Do you think he'll be able to kind of seamlessly move into a kind of a looser infrastructure with Bruce than with Belichick? You know, I think the big thing, and I know Bruce is a smart coach, and Tom obviously is smart, they ought to taper, obviously, the offense to what Tom does best, and not change a lot of things and not make him learn a lot of things at this age. you know, he is Tom Brady, and you don't want to mess with what he has done over his fantastic career. You know, you, we talk a lot now, Dan, about how young quarterbacks, they're in seven-on-seven camps. I mean, they've got 10,000 snaps, you know, by the time they're 11 years old. Drew Bledsoe always jokes with me.

He's like, I had like 25 high school starts, and then I was asked to start in college. It's a different world now. But you were forced to play. I think you started five or six games, your rookie year. And I look at guys now, and I think now I feel like quarterbacks are a little more prepared to start early. But go back to your day. Were you just overwhelmed? Do you expect Joe Burrow and Tua to be a little overwhelmed?

No, I think players are better coached in college now, although I had no complaints about my preparation with a guy like John Robinson, the former USC head coach, was my offensive coordinator. So I knew that I was going to be prepared. But today, as you said, Colin, with all the passing leagues and the seven-on-seven and the preps and the private coaching that these guys get, I would be surprised that they would be overwhelmed going in because you look at Burrow and the career he had the ups and downs there and then to finish on absolutely the highest of highs, I think it'll be interesting to watch his progression early in the season to see if his confidence stays strong because

it is a new ball game, a very different ball game than what any of these rookies are used to. Yeah, we're watching some Joe Burrough tape. He's running for his life here. He is an interesting talent, to say the least. So I've always had kind of this feeling. It doesn't matter if you're a broadcaster, a football player, a lawyer, whatever it is. The more talented you are, you should want a shorter contract, so you hit free agency sooner.

You hit the market. and then if you're a court but football's got tackling and people get hurt so the general thesis in football is if you can get guaranteed money and longer deals just take the money deck prescott this morning according to reports would rather take a short deal and hit the market again when you were playing and your thoughts about deck if you were playing today and you're dac would you take the extra year or would you rather hit the market sooner I think I'd rather hit the market sooner because the market keeps going up. And you know, you were asking me about back in my day, we didn't have free agency. We had no market. We had a corner store.

The corner store was the thing you were signed with when you were drafted out of college. So for me to speak about DAC from personal experience is impossible. Yeah. There are, when you look at the pro game today and the pro game you, played. I watched your highlights here as we talked to you. It looks like the same damn game. I mean, that you guys were so ahead of it. But there's been a lot of changes. Mostly it feels like Dan, they benefit the offensive side of the ball. Do you think you would have been a different player today or you were just lucky to have Eric Corrielle and play a progressive game then?

Well, definitely, I was fortunate to be with Correel. The only thing that would be better for me and any quarterback that played in my era is that we'd be a lot. healthier now that we're in our 60s and approaching our 70. Yeah. You know, you go back to the NFL. There's a lot of changes going on. The league feels like it's more pro player now. Is that, is that fair to say? Yeah, I think it is. I think the players have banded together and have been more successful in dealing with management. And, you know, as you look forward to this season, it would be really interesting, number one, if we have a season, but also how the players react and how

management reacts to what's happening socially. Yeah. I want to shift to Oregon football. You were the first player from Oregon football as a kid who grew up in the Northwest that was like a national topic. People knew about you. Obviously, Phil Knight comes in, graduates from there in Stanford, comes back, gives a lot of money.

It's now a national program. When you were playing back at Oregon, the stadium didn't look to see. same, the facilities are different. Are you shocked by the growth of that program, which I consider now a national championship level program if they can get the right quarterback year to year. Are you shocked that it's become what it was when you played there? I am pleasantly shocked, absolutely. It's, you know, we always had a strong fan base, although a very small one, because it's population base in Oregon at the time, and even now is very small. So, but what Phil Knight has done,

for the University of Oregon and also he donated a lot of money to Stanford and Oregon State. So it's not just one school, but obviously the most of it has gone to the ducks has made Oregon a very attractive place. Eugene Oregon, very attractive

place for youngsters to come, get their education, and play at a high level. By the way, I'm watching your college video. You ran around a lot. I could. I used to. Yeah.

I was going to say you remind me of watching the old Archie Manning clips. In fact, that's number 84. Is that Bobby Moore later, Ahmad Rashad? 84 is Leel in class. Bobby Moore was number 23. Bob Newell and 21 and Greg Speck were 87. Those were my primary receivers. Yeah, here you're running away from the Washington Huskies

and making a touchdown pass down the sideline. All right, good stuff. Dan Fouts, Hall of Fame quarterback. I hope your golf game in Central Oregon is still strong. It's a pleasure talking to you. Always a pleasure to be on with you. you, Colin. Thanks a lot. All right, Dan Fouts, the Hall of Fame quarterback.

The other night I was watching an Archie Manning story. It was I was flying somewhere, and it was the Archie Manning story. Archie Manning was such an athlete. And I'm like, what happened to Eli and Peyton? They never leave the pocket. Archie Manning was like, honest to God. He was just running around the field. Maybe all that running made him, you know, kind of pushed them in the two of the pocket.

Sit in the pocket and don't get hit. Yeah. It was crazy. We're apart these days. We're also sharing more. GEICO is part of that, sharing more too. The GEICO give back 15% off car or motorcycle insurance for both current and new customers. It lasts your full policy term.

Go to GEICO.com slash give back for eligibility and information. Joy Taylor with the news. No. No. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So MLB players have rejected the league's most recent proposal for the 2020 season. so the owners have unanimously voted to implement a season through the March agreement made with the players.

It is expected to be 60 games and begin in late July. Now the players need to let the league know by 5 p.m. Eastern if they can report to camps by July 1st and whether they agree to the health and safety protocols. But it is looking like we are going to get baseball after a very, very interesting public negotiation. March, first week of March, or second week of March, sports ended. Yes. And you and I had to get through March and April, which we always felt we were pretty lucky because Brady signed with Tampa. Yes.

And then we had the NFL draft. So March and April for us were actually pretty easy. Yeah. And then we got into May and we had a lot of post draft and there's some NFL stuff going on. And then I'm not going to lie, June's been pretty rough. We are banging out shows and doing as much as we can. And I had a conversation about two weeks ago. I said, we got to get at least one of these leagues back.

Like, I don't know if I can go two and a half months without a game. And right now this morning, it looks like we'll have three leagues back in July. And there'll be practices. And if it was up to me, I would televise all the practices. Because I just want to see spring training games. I want to see NBA practices as much as we can see it. Well, we'll actually have four because we're getting the WAMBA back again, which seamlessly got everything done. Now, when are they started?

I believe they start the end of July. They have a shortened season as well. I mean. All these leagues for the record, we're going to have COVID. Yes. Well, that is something that I feel like people have to remind each other that we are still in a pandemic. It never went away. We were never down to zero cases. We're not going to be down to zero. We're not going to be down to zero cases. There is still no vaccine and no solve for this situation,

which is why the health and safety protocols are what they are. They're going to be extreme because they need to be. And leagues are very aware that this is an issue and they're going to do everything they can to protect the players. and players are going to have to be responsible as well. But at the end of the day, we can't, we can't see it. We can't see it to defend against it. And we can't stop the leagues if four players get it. Like this, we are going to be provisions for players get it. We got great therapeutics.

We've got great doctors. These are the safest Americans. But it is a reality that people are going to continue to get the virus, unfortunately. So Tom Brady's been getting together with some of his new teammates in Tampa this off season. And running back, Dare Agungboale says that Brady is bringing another level intensity to their workouts. The way he runs our workouts is like a practice. Instead of just telling us run a dig or something like that, he's telling us the full play

call. He's doing his cadence as if we were in the game. He's doing adjustments, doing the hot and tights. So with a guy like him, it's really easy to kind of be building chemistry and emulating that whole practice environment. Not supposed to be practicing now. Well, the NFLPA has advised players to stop group workouts before training camp because of coronavirus concerns.

And according to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, Brady led at least a dozen players through workouts at a private school in Tampa Tuesday morning. Oh. And at least two bucks players and an assistant coach have tested positive already. As we just said, there are that's going to continue to happen. This is one of these fuzzy rules, like the speed limit. When you drive down the road, it says speed limit. That means that's the most you can do.

And we all go seven miles an hour over. Yeah, it doesn't say speed suggestion. It says speed limit. Like one cookie per customer. But you can still get a ticket and you should I mean, listen, look, I don't, I'm, nobody really drives the speed limit, right? And nobody's following all these silly protocols. If you want to grab. Well, they're not silly, but

like they are trying to keep players safe. It's just like people are going to continue as long as it is legal. If you think Tom Brady's in Tampa and he wants to prove the New England, you're going to miss me more than I miss you. And he's just on jet skis all day. It ain't happening. That's not what Tom Brady does. I do think it's interesting that he is putting a different level of intensity on it because obviously the offseason workouts are very limited.

I'm taking so much you can do on soon. You know what? I'm elevating them. Nine wins to 14. Four. Oh, okay. So finally, Lamar Jackson said recently that he thought Baltimore lost in the playoffs last season because they underestimated the Titans and they were caught off guard.

John Harbra disagreed saying he doesn't believe the team took the Titans too lightly. He said they simply just didn't play well. I think it might have had to do a little bit with Derek Henry having 195 yards and 30 carries. It should be noted that Tennessee went to New England and won. Tennessee played really well. And Tanna Hill had a couple of big, big, that was one of them we just saw. Tannahill had a couple of huge throws. Let's be honest about it.

Every year we have a team in the NFL playoffs, we're like, uh-oh, they were the O-O team. The Titans defense showed up in that game as well. They sack them R four times. I don't know that they necessarily didn't play. well. I think that the Titans just were a really good team as well. And that's how the NFL playoffs go. And nobody gave them any. This is Tannahill had one great shot. Well, Tannahill was seven or 14 for 88 yards and two touchdowns. It's not like he was the reason that they won that game. He just had a couple big plays. Again, Derek Henry was unbelievable for the Titans last year.

And they sacked them our four times. It's not like the Ravens forgot how to play football. It was such a great game. It was in the other thing, Tennessee was playing with house money because nobody gave him a shot. Right. So that's just called the NFL. You play a little more loose when you have no pressure on you. No question. Joy Taylor with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. By the way, love what I saw from NASCAR yesterday. You know, it is funny about this. So I've said this before. I used to work at another place. I work at Fox.

Both places I've been have NASCAR. I don't do a lot of NASCAR. I'll bring Jeff Gordon on every year. You know, once or twice, there'll be something going on a NASCAR I talked about. But then I'm just telling you, a broadcaster that has a lot of Facebook views and YouTube. We had 340 million Facebook views. None of them were NASCAR.

One of the reasons I don't talk NASCAR, it feels old, outdated, rigid, and regional. And I thought yesterday it was the opposite. It felt young and smart and tolerant and new and interesting. And if you have a problem with the movement on the Confederate flag, bye-bye. Because I thought yesterday, and Goulet is a huge NASCAR fan. It felt like a new sport. I'm not going to hold NASCAR responsible for the previous 20 years of which most of it I didn't like. I thought yesterday was great.

I thought they just made a great pivot. I thought it was great. I thought the bubble wall story was great. It was emotional. I'm sitting there watching it. I'm getting emotional watching it. If you ever told me, I would sit there and get choked up watching a NASCAR race. I mean, I definitely cried watching it and seeing how emotional bubble was.

You could tell he was overwhelmed. Look at that picture. Yeah, look at that scene. That is incredible. How could you not get emotional watching that? It's just incredible. And those drivers said that news in the garage, that's not who we are. We're not going to be defined by it.

We are not going to allow you to attack one of our guys. I thought it was just an incredible pivot by NASCAR. Good for them. It was great television. I mean, Goulet watches it every week anyway. But for Goulet, you're a diehard NASCAR fan. Was that one of the better races? in the last couple years. Yes, that was a great race.

So it had a great finish, but it was also entertaining throughout. It was really exciting. It's one of the better tracks. It's normally a good one. But, yes, that's great. The guy who won is Bubba Wallace's closest friend. Yes. They've been friends since they were teenagers. And when the noose was

found in the garage, Ryan, last name, Ryan Blaney. Ryan Blaney said he could not sleep. He was so pissed and so angry, he could not sleep the night before the race. And he, his best friend of Bubba, he ends up winning the race. let it for a while. Ryan won.

I mean, it was literally like you wrote the story. It looked like a movie yesterday on television. I mean, it was just a crazy ending. Cars were banging into each other, catch it on fire. It was just, and the announcing team, it was just, it was really good American television sports. It was terrific. I texted our bosses.

I haven't done that in years. I texted them. I'm like, that was good TV. It was. It was a great race. It was great race and a great story. Good stuff. John Morosi is coming up next. We got baseball.

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How certain are you, are we going to have a season? What has to happen? About 95% sure right now, Colin. So we don't have an agreement in terms of the union and MLB coming together on the rules. But Commissioner Rob Manfred still has the ability to impose that 60 game schedule as long as the Union agrees to the health and safety protocols that would be put in place in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. So Joel Sherman reported from the New York Post in the last hour that, in fact,

conversations have been good today between MLB and the Union. So right now, Colin, all signs point to baseball season beginning around July 24th. So, John, explain to me. What was the lack of an agreement about this year or about down the road? Because I kept hearing you guys talk about, listen, they don't want to give up this because it'll mean that in the next CBA. Was the problem about this year or next year? Next year and the future, Colin, a lot of people are saying on the player side, I've spoken with some agents today who basically said the players said no last night to do a couple things.

Number one, put their stake in the ground of what their position is going to be in the next round of bargaining for after the 2021 season and also to preserve their right to file a grievance. Now, there's a lot of different opinions out there about how valid the grievance would be, but the grievance would be a bargaining chip for the players in the next round of CBA talks, even if it's just to put in there to take out as they're discussing what the next CBA is going to be. So a lot of times certainly would have to pass for that grievance to be heard, Colin, probably. years candidly for that to be heard. So the players that may file it today might not even still be playing when that grievance would be decided one way or the other years from now. John, you know, whenever you go through a labor situation, it's almost like what we do with trades in sports. There's a winner and there's a loser. And the truth is, generally, most teams do okay with trades. You never do as good as you think and you never do as bad as the fans

think. So if I said to you, winners, losers, is there a side that feels good about this this morning? No, I don't think so, Colin. I think this was a bad result in many ways for both teams because you would have hoped through the course of the last several weeks to come together and potentially where it would be safe to do so, even be playing games right now. If the players had agreed to a discount of their pro-rated salary, you could have seen games happening throughout the U.S. at the moment where, again, not maybe probably not everywhere, but at least in certain spots where it's safe to play, where really during the course of July, as well, 4th of July. You could have the national pastime, a real revival where this would be

one of the first major team sports to come back in North America. But obviously, that opportunity is now lost. And MLB probably will return right around the same time, we think, as the NBA and the NHL. So I think it's an opportunity lost on both sides. And you would have hoped to see at least some semblance of goodwill coming out of these talks to set the stage for better labor relations in the future. But that was not the case. So it's interesting. We're going to have something we've never seen really in baseball. Urgency, meaning if you get swept in a three-game series,

and that becomes a four or five-game losing streak, you could be out of the division race here in about three weeks, three weeks after the season starts. When you look at the rosters and you think, okay, this is a sprint now, John, this is not a marathon. This is a sprint. Is

there a team or two that you think they are equipped or built for a shorter seat? Maybe it's a team with old arms. like a Houston maybe. They don't have to have 28 starts. Who's equipped for this? Who could surprise people? Who do you expect to be good? It's a great question, Colin. And I really do think that Houston, because Justin Verlander had a spring training injury, he should be healthy and ready to go now. Lance McCullors Jr. coming off at Tommy John surgery, I expect him to be in good shape as well. So Houston benefits, I believe, from the layoff.

Also teams that got better during the off season somewhat quietly that maybe we didn't. pay a ton of attention to like the Chicago White Sox, like the Cincinnati Reds, those teams that have been building up, even the Toronto Blue Jays, they got Hunjin Ryu to go along with that young, homegrown core position players. I like those teams. This is not good news, the short

sprint for the teams that you would have expected to be great under normal circumstances, like the Dodgers, who just got Mookie Betts last winter, like the Yankees as well. This column to use the college football analogy is a noon kickoff in a driving rainstorm, where everything you thought

about what you were assuming this game was going to be is not. The teams that thought they were going to pass, they've got to run the ball. All the rules don't apply here. So I would say this is an upset special for a lot of different teams. So watch those up-and-comers like the Reds, the White Sox, and the Blue Jays. You know, it's interesting. The football programs in America, NFL is a domestic product. I mean, occasionally we've had players from overseas.

Baseball and the NBA are global. And with COVID, it's hard enough to control Florida. California, New York. 30% of baseball comes Latin American countries. So I sit here and I think to myself, how much can you control COVID? Is it problematic?

We're going to have cases. I just think in my life, I've been saying this for months, Joe and I have, this is a health crisis. You don't solve them. You mostly manage them my entire life. What if there's COVID outbreaks? I mean, what is your kind of gut feeling on this

global sport, this global pandemic, are there things that concern you? Sure. And I think that that's really a big topic today between the players and MLB. What are those protocols going to be? It's about, to your point, risk management. We are not at a spot where we're 100% safe doing almost anything right now. So it's a matter of mitigating that risk and finding ways to do that and putting the protocols in place where temperature checks will happen, where players must wear masks, what their guidelines will be for their activities away from the ballpark. We just saw last week the Philly

Spring Training Complex a small scale outbreak there. How do we avoid that happening moving forward? It sounds as though MLB's stance on this column has been that one positive test for one team will not shut the league down. Would five on one team? It would idle that team for a period of time. We don't yet know. And certainly there's a lot of public health experts out there weighing in on this. a lot of different theories about how to best manage the crisis. I really think, Colin, there's going to have to be a lot of trust. For the last couple of months, there has been very little trust between MLB and the union. There must be robust trust for this to work in the midst of a pandemic.

Finally, a goofy question. I want to play trivia with our audience. So behind John's right ear, there's a picture of a baseball stadium. Don't tell us. I'm going to guess this right now. Take a picture of John. There's a baseball stadium behind John. You look at you see that joy?

I'm going to hold on. I want to guess this. Oakland. Am I right? No, not Oakland. Philadelphia. Do you have a guess? Philadelphia.

No. What is it? Went to my first game there with my dad back in 1987 September game against the Brewers. Alan Trammell, my favorite player, three for four. So I hope that those memories of you're going to your first game. We'll get them eventually.

Maybe not right now in 2020, but in the future of those. romantic notions of baseball as you had at the kingdom Colin they'll be coming back so that's that you said that was Detroit or Dodger Stadium Detroit Detroit Detroit Detroit Detroit yeah my first baseball game was the Seattle Kingdom which they've appropriately blown it up since it was just not right it was not worthy of another decade John Paul Marosi great talking to you thank you so much my pleasure thanks Colin all right what was your first baseball game Goulet Yankee Stadium yeah thank you stadium yeah I went to the Yankee old Yankee Stadium twice I thought it smelled like urine. I'm being honest with you. The new Yankee Stadium's got.

That was part of its charm. It smelled terrible and was crowded. You know the other thing, Joy? I was always called, like if baseball is 162 games. So if you're a season ticket holder, you go from work to the game. I want good food options. Old Yankee Stadium, there was nowhere where I could eat dinner and watch the game. So let's say I'm a high school principal and I buy season tickets in the Bronx.

So high school principal, 545, I leave school. I go to Yankee Stadium, watch low batting. practice and eat. The food has to matter. You can't give me hot dogs for 81 home games. And for years, baseball fans were like, who cares? I do.

I'm driving from my law office to the stadium. So food matters. Stadium food has evolved a lot. I never understood the argument that it doesn't matter. If I'm going to a baseball game. You don't like change with anything. My first game is a Pirates game at Three River Stadium, which is obviously.

Astro turf. No longer. No longer. What year was it? Oh, I don't remember. It was very young. Yeah. I mean, I remember when they, I was there when they demolished Three River Stadium.

It was very sad. You weren't in it. Well, here I am, so no. But I'm very glad that food and beverage has evolved at stadiums. It makes the experience better. Yeah. I can remember everything from I can remember Bill Leisure, picked me up in a car. We were late.

We couldn't find park. I can remember the whole lineup for the Mariners, the bullpen. I was talking to John during the break. He was laughing at me. Baseball games are great. Yeah. That's right. I've taken my kids to more baseball games than I have anything else.

They like the food. The game, they don't care about. The food, the ice cream helmets, they're all into it. Oh, my God. So good. Hour three next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I-Hard Radio app.

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It's happening overall sports. And the reality is players now make $35 million a year. And so, you know, if you're a GM, if you're an owner, you've got to get comfortable with it. You know, players are pushing back in baseball. This is just what's happening now. There's so much money in sports. There's more demands of the players' time. They have more power than ever.

So the reality is, guys like Dak Prescott, I want a shorter contract. I want to hit the market. Let's bring in Stanford route eight NFL seasons via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So let's start with Jamal, I. Adam, Stanford. Jamal's like, I want to trade. I want out of here. And a lot of people can say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, but we saw Jalen Ramsey do it. We got Jamal Adams doing it. Is this the reality of what players are now? If I'm a winner and you're a losing franchise, I'm not sitting around having you ruin my career. Yeah, if you'd ask me this question about four or five years ago,

I would have told you no way, no how, because that just was not the complexity of the league at the time. But now when you see what Jalen Ramsey did last year, when you see what Mika Fitzpatrick did, getting out of Miami, going to Pittsburgh, having a Pro Bowl season, that's the new norm in today's NFL is players now have a bigger platform. They have a bigger voice. So they're going to make sure that they actually are the architect and the author of their story. If they are on a losing team and they get drafted high in the first round when they come out, they're going to make sure that they go to a team that is winning, that is committed to winning and a team that is not anemic to it like you see teams like the Jets or the

Dolphins or the Browns. And similarly with Dak Prescott, Dak says, I want four years, Cowboys Five. To you, is that more of player empowerment? I remember back in 2009, a former teammate of mine actually started that trend would not be awesome while signing that three-year contract for a large sum. And I noticed that a lot of players started to take note then. So when you look at Dak Prescott. He's looking at Jared Golf. He's looking at Carson wins. Two players that were drafting number one, number two overall in his draft class. So he just

simply wants to make sure that he's paid, he's compensated the same level that they are. And also because Dak already being towards his late 20s, he wants to make sure that he can hit the market again in his early 30s because the growing sentiment right now in the NFL is that quarterbacks do

not hit their prime until they are 30 plus. So he wants to make sure that he's able to cash in at at the same time because the salary cap is just growing and just the marketing is growing for all of these players, especially the quarterback position. Who knows what the salary or just the economy of the position is going to be in about four or five years. So, Dak, I'm definitely all for him because he just simply is following the trend that the Aaron Rogers, the Russell Wilson of the world, have already started. I've been critical at Cam Newton through the years.

I think he's been a better celebrity than a quarterback. I think he's had one great year. He's never had back-to-back winning seasons, which is pretty remarkable for somebody that's considered an elite quarterback, which is why I don't consider him elite quarterback. I think he's B-minus C-plus, and I think at times he's distracted. But I do think with COVID-19, with shortened camps, we're going to have quarterbacks get, you know, COVID-19, there's going to be more injuries. I think he'll find a spot, but are you surprised the market is small and he's still not on a team yet? I'm not necessarily surprised because given when Carol, Carol, decided to let him go. It was a game of musical chair. So you see Philip Rivers signing with the

Indianapolis Colts. You see Tom Brady going to the Tampa Buccaneers. You see Teddy Bridgewater going to the Carolina Panthers. So it's not surprising because when you look at a Cam Newton, he's taken a decline ever since the Super Bowl, I'm sorry, the MVP season in which they went to the Super Bowl back in 2015. He's only had three seasons of 60 percent completion or above passing. And in today's game, it's all about precision passing. It's all about quick game. It's all about getting the ball out of your hands very quickly, spread offense, things like that. So Cam Newton has taken a decline over the last couple years.

That's number one. Number two, when you factor in, Cam Newton is a superstar. He's a polarizing figure, figuratively and literally. And that's going to be very difficult for a guy who was a Juco national champion, who was a college NCAA national champion. number one overall pick has been starting ever since he got drafted to the Carolina Panthers, been in the league nine years, a former NFL MVP. It's going to be very difficult for him to accept a backup role in this league.

And I think the teams are very cognizant of that. And they're probably a little skittish of actually having someone that polarizing being the most famous person on the team, albeit he's a backup holding a clipboard and a headset every Sunday afternoon. So this will be a year in which we have a chance to see Joe Burrow, Tua, and Justin Herbert all start at some point in the year. Now, I think Burrow probably starts week one. Go back to your playing days. When you faced a rookie quarterback, what were the tricks that you couldn't get away with, with a breeze or, you know, a veteran quarterback? What are the tricks a guy like you, a high-end defensive back, used on rookie quarterbacks?

Oh, wow. One that comes to mind was Sam Bradford back in 2010. It was, we're playing, he was with the St. Louis Rams at the time, tried to try me on a nine route. And I intercepted it early four quarter. We wanted to win in the game. And the thing is that with most young quarterbacks in this league, you got to find a way to trick them, disguise, things like that because they have not been around. They have not been able to see everything that Drew Brees, Tom Brady, guys like that have been accustomed to for so many years. I think that's the main thing. The main component is pressure them and also confuse them, disguise your coverages, throwing a few exotic blitzes. And most of the time, unless it's like an Andrew Luck type of rookie,

most of the time they're going to struggle because they simply have not seen that type of complex defense at the collegiate level. You were a world-class track guy. You ran, if I recall, 42740. It was the fastest. My man. Yes. You were a speed guy.

And I've said this. with joy when I see pictures of receivers, corners and quarterbacks, I think to myself, you can stay in shape right now. But I'm thinking about like units, like offensive line. And I think to myself, special teams could get

really choppy this year. With your background in track and field, would the time off be beneficial? How good of shape could you kept yourself in not being in the facility? Or do you think this is a year where everybody's little out of shape. Everybody's going to get dinged up. How would you have handled it with your

track background with no OTAs and potentially an abridged camp? Oh, I was actually just having the conversation with one of my friends who actually plays in the league still right now just the other day. He was telling me that, Stan, everybody's going to be out of shape when they come back. And I'm not sure where I come out on that because given my track background, I think that for right now, with it being the quarantine and this pandemic and everyone now having to work out on their own. I think that with my knowledge of the sport, things like that, I would still be able to maintain

a certain level of shape, but preparing for the game of football, the only way that you can truly get in football shape is to actually go through football practice, football games, whether it's a scrimmage, whether it's something like that in training camp. That's the only true way to match that level of intensity and that level of soreness that you're going to have the day after

practice going to the next. That's the only way that you're going to be able to attain that and match that in the NFL is actually going through it. Stanford route joining us. Would you be comfortable going to camp knowing you could catch COVID? Would it bother you? I'm a germaphobe and I'm OCD. I'll tell you that right now, Colin. So it would definitely be an uphill battle. But I love this game. I've always loved it ever since I was a kid. So I would find a way to navigate through this tough time to still be able to play this game that I know and love so well. But I definitely do want to know the parameters. I want to know the precautionary measures that Roger Goodell and the league is going to have in place whenever the players come back

for training camp. You look good. You look happy. So you're handling the COVID thing fine. What are you doing right now? Where are you staying? How are you doing? How's your family doing? Oh, everybody's doing good. We're just quarantining, making sure that we are all just trying to stay away from this virus. Like I said, I'm a germaphobe, I'm OCD. A lot of people in my family are, so I think that's where I get it from. And just trying to stay positive, stay healthy. I have upped my juicing, so I'm doing my best to try to be as healthy as I can. Whenever I go work out, I make sure that I have on layers. That way I'm actually sweating even more because I've heard that heat is actually something that is a deterrent for COVID-19. Not sure how true that is, but

that's just the things that I've been hearing. So yeah, I'm definitely in good spirits right now. just doing this thing whenever I can to broadcasting, making sure that I'm staying up on top of that. So all in all, everything is going well. Hope you the same, Colin. Yeah, one more question I was thinking about. So the Raiders are going from Oakland to Vegas.

And fans don't care. But let's say I've got two kids in school and my wife has a social network. And all of a sudden, I've got to move to a new city. We looked up a number about a month ago and teams that move are never good the first year. It's a mess. So I look, and I was in Vegas this weekend, I flew by the stadium and I drove by the stadium, and I'm thinking, the idea that I'd have, everybody in that team has to move their entire family to Vegas.

It's probably good for Vegas home sales with all new these pro athletes. What was, when you got, when you went from Oakland to Houston, Kansas City, take my audience into being a pro athlete. Hey, guys, we've all got to move. How, is it ever disruptive to your game? Luckily, whenever I moved from Oakland to Kansas City, that was during the offseason. So I had a chance to go ahead and acclimate myself. So that wasn't as big of a hurdle. But whenever you're actually moving a team from one place to the next, now it's only one state over, California to Nevada.

I mean, I could, good Lord, I could imagine how it was when St. Louis moved to Los Angeles, the Rams. It is something that definitely takes a lot of support from your family, teammates, things like that, because you're going from one city to the next, you're going from one team to the next. You've got to actually learn a different culture, maybe from one that you've actually been accustomed to. So it definitely has some growing pains, but I think that if you have the right people around you,

that's going to actually lessen the effect of those growing pains, actually transferring over to the field into your body of work. Stanford Route 8 NFL seasons. Good seeing you. Good seeing you, buddy. Yes, good seeing you too, Colin. Always love to be on. All right.

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Well, Stanford was just talking about being in football shape and Larry Fitzgerald's been through quite a few off-season programs in his career as he enters his 17th NFL season. And he's actually enjoying the change of pace with the virtual programs this year. He said, for a guy like me not having the wear and tear of mini camps and OTAs, the drudgery and monotony of sitting in meetings all day for things you pretty much know for the last 15 years, I can get right to the things that are important to get me and get myself together, which I know. So this has been great. That's the one thing about being in management. One of the reasons I know I could never do management. The constant meetings, brutal.

You and I go to work, prep, do it home. our bosses are in meetings all day. Yeah, I'm not a huge meeting person. Oh, I don't know how executives do it. I mean, I love a good, productive meeting with like, you know, answers and solves and action items when we leave. 14 minutes. In-out, questions gone. And it has to be something that had to have been done in a meeting and not sent in an email.

So I'm not a huge meeting person, but I totally understand. understand what he's talking about. I mean, you imagine going over, like, you're in a room full of rookies and you're going over, like, the terminology. For the same. And you're the vet. So they're looking to you to make sure that, like, you know, how's Larry handling this? Is he engaged? I heard of- What kind of questions is he asking? I've had multiple NFL players tell me this about Pete Carroll. After about four years, the story, you know, you hear the same stories. Because Pete's very emotional. And he relies on a lot of classic stories. Aura. Yeah. Yeah, and it's like after about four or five years of Pete,

I mean, that's why Pete Carroll was a great college coach, because by the time you wore you out, you were gone. And the knock on Pete in the NFL has been veteran players sort of tire of kind of the energy and the, you know, this kind of the kind of the carolness of the camp, which is why a lot of these coaches, by the way, are better served at the college level. You go, you recruit four years, guys out, just the time they want to strangle the coach, you're out of the program. Well, again, and Larry, Larry was there in 2011 when they had the offseason,

they had the lockout, and there wasn't an off season then either. These veterans that have been around for that and already know how to train their body to go into camp, which obviously they don't want to get injured in camp either. So they've kind of already done all of this, what we're doing, that where you work out and how you're able to work out is obviously affecting everybody. But, you know, I don't have any concerns about someone like Larry Fitzgerald or Tom Brady coming into the season, being in the shape that they need to be in. You're not going to get in a football shape, as Stanford said, you only do that, get the calluses of that from camp.

But to come into camp in this year the best way that you can, the veterans who already know how to take care of their bodies and know how to train for the offseason are just going to be in a better situation. So Janus will be the top target for many teams when he hits free agency in 2021. Jason Kidd's future could play a role in where Yonis ends up. So some teams around the league believe that Kidd could be a link to the reigning MVP. since the two developed a strong bond when kid was the head coach in Milwaukee. Ah, do you buy that? And as we discussed earlier, he is reportedly interviewing for the head coaching job with the New York Knicks. There's no way Janice is going to the Knicks.

Would you give your career to James Dolan? No way in the world. This guy's going to have the best owners. He's going to have New York is cold, bad owner, high taxes, no winning. How many players have I heard? And weirdly, still, extreme expectations. New York is not even in the... LeBron could have gone there three times.

D-Waidt. Look at all the great free agents last 10 years. Durant. They don't... I was told Durant love New York. He went to Brooklyn. Nobody wants to go to the Knicks. Yonis, his agent should be terminated if he sent him to New York.

It won't be good financially. It's the highest. If you live in New York City, you have to pay all those New York taxes and the city tax. Well, I mean, if he comes to California and plays with the Warriors, he's not going to tax break either. Yeah, but it's also the best weather. Silicon Valley is a tech center.

L.A. is like an entertainment center. It's an amazing place to live. It's not, I don't think that it's that. I just, it's the first point that you made. If you're going to leave Milwaukee, which has up until this point been a great situation for him, it's not that the bucks are bad.

They're solid franchise. They're in a good situation. He's supposed to be in the finals this year. The best team in the East. The best record in the league. So it's not like a, if you're leaving a situation like that, you're not going to go to a dysfunctional situation. For what?

Can we admit elite people don't want to work for the next? If Steve Kerr was offered the job, he's like, no, no thing. But what does that, even if Jason Kidd was there and they have a great relationship from everything that. You're not going to change anything. Yeah, what can he do? What can he accomplish? They don't have any players. If Jason could go there without Janus, what is he able to do?

Who's their best player right now? I mean, honestly. They have a very young team. And that's the point of them bringing in a young coach is that they want to develop the young players. But again, it all comes back to James Dolan. It's not a good situation. It's not a solid situation.

And there's nothing that the Knicks have done to show that they're trending in a different direction than they always have. Finally, Jamal Adams has asked for a trade from the Jets. He also made it clear. It would be very happy to play for the Cowboys. But according to Fox Bet, Dallas has only the third best odds to land Adams if he's traded.

The Texans have the best odds at plus 250. Philadelphia is plus 325, Dallas plus 400, Cincinnati plus 500, 550, I'm sorry, Tennessee plus 600, and Seattle plus 675. Houston secondary is not great. Yeah, I don't know what their cap space is. They've got a handful of stars. What would be the best situation for him out of these teams with the best odds?

Let me see the teams are the best odds. again. Houston, Philadelphia, Dallas, Cincinnati, Tennessee, and Seattle. Probably Seattle. I've got a Hall of Fame coach, a Hall of Fame quarterback. Pete Carroll's a very good. Pete Carroll in college and the pros has always elevated safeties. Philadelphia would be a good situation too. Yeah, it would be. I don't know how much money they have left. Well, yeah. I mean, obviously

it's a trade, so they're going to have to make some moves anyway, regardless, to get him. Pete Carroll's safeties have done well in the NFL. I just... Cam Chancellor, Earl Thomas, Taylor Mays in College. I think it works in C. I'm not saying that because I'm from Seattle. I think Houston's interesting. That would be a great situation from. Yeah.

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Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, the I Hard Radio app. A couple of months away from college football, and the story came out late last week. Texas and Ohio State and Alabama are playing. They scheduled a couple of big matchups in the future.

And I love college football. I've always loved college football. I think it's gotten too regional over the last 10 years. It's too southern, and the South has always been a huge component to it. I love SEC football, but it doesn't feel like Denver West that has the impact or in the Northeast. So this year, Notre Dame is going to be very good. There's some northern teams, Michigan, Washington, Oregon, very good.

And so we thought we'd go look at every week in the college football season. And what is the big sandwich game? Because I watched the entire day of NFL. I cannot watch the entire day of college football. So I usually pick a game. And I'll watch highlights. You know, YouTube it and watch highlights. But I'll pick a game.

And here's the game I'm picking every week. Joy, here we go. All right, week one, Michigan at Washington. Alabama versus USC, North Dakota State at Oregon. Pretty easy one for me, Michigan at Washington. Jim Harbaugh now, Urban Myers, now out of the conference for now a second year. They're looking, they have to find a new quarterback at Michigan. Shea Patterson has gone.

Christian McCaffrey's brother, Dylan McCaffrey, is the leading candidate to be quarterback. And people are saying this is the best athlete. This is Harbaugh's guy. This is Harbaugh's Andrew Luck at Stanford. Washington's got a new coach. That means they have a new system, which is Washington. is beatable. Michigan's more of the national program. In the Big Ten, which has gotten better, joined the last several years.

This is a major misstep if Harbaugh loses out of conference to start the season. At $8 million a year, the howling starts for Harbaugh. So this is the game to watch. It'll be a sunny Seattle fall afternoon. Surprise you didn't pick USC there. The nominees for week two. Texas at LSU, Louisville at Clemson, Tennessee at Oklahoma, Ohio State at Oregon. This is real easy for me. Texas at LSU. LSU won last year. This is the year Tom Herman's got to win now. So remember, LSU lost their coach Brady, Joe Burrow, four all conference defensive players. Not that they're completely starting over. Texas should win this game. They've got Sam Ellengert. They've got the senior quarterback. This is a game that Texas needs to win. These are the kind of games Tom Herman was hired for. Burroughs gone.

Justin Jefferson. The receiver's gone. The four-all conference defenders are gone. The top offensive coach is gone. It's been a rough off year for Ed Orgeron. He's gone through a personal divorce. They've been, it's a little unsettled there right now. This is the moment for Texas. I'm all over that. That's my big sandwich game. This is a strong week. Nominees for week three. USC at Stanford. Georgia at Alabama. Auburn at Ole Miss. Easy one. Georgia at Alabama. Alabama has owned this series. But Georgia's put together now with Kirby Smart. Three straight. unbelievable recruiting classes. Georgia this year may have better talent than Alabama. Nick Saban, though, is 19-0 against his former assistance. So this is not a game he loses. And they have not, Georgia's not beaten Alabama. They've lost five straight to them. I think this is the first year, if you look at recruiting,

and you look at who Alabama lost Tua, they lost Jedrick Wills, the best offensive lineman. They lost their top safety. They lost their best corner. I think Georgia's got better talent than. Alabama this year. This is the year. Sabanam Belichick strong against their assistance. Yeah. All right week four, Miami at Michigan State, Florida at Tennessee, Oklahoma at Army, Wisconsin at Michigan. I'm going to go Wisconsin, Michigan because Wisconsin hammered him last year.

Jonathan Taylor's now gone. But again, if Michigan loses their first big game of the year to Washington, then their first big conference game, Harbaal loses again. And remember, Wisconsin ranked top 10 in the country at some point in each of the last four years. So Wisconsin is rolling. Michigan has better players. So if the Washington turns into an L and Michigan loses here, it is you're in the oven if you are Jim Harbaugh. The heat is really turned up. Week five, Washington at Oregon, Penn State at Michigan, Notre Dame versus Wisconsin, Alabama at Ole Miss. A lot of good, really, this is a toughie. I'm just going to go, Notre Dame, Wisconsin at Lambo. I just want to see what it looks like.

I just think this has the potential to be great. And also for Notre Dame. A lot of people have been critical of Brian Kelly because when he first got there, his face is turning purple. He's yelling and screaming. It wasn't classic refined Notre Dame. He's winning 10 games a year. He's done a terrific job at Notre Dame.

And they also have a quarterback Ian Book. I like a lot. This is going to be one of those classic fall afternoons. First meeting of these two teams since the mid-60s. I just think it'll look great. It'll be smash mouth football. Week six, Texas at versus Oklahoma, LSU at Florida, Auburn at Georgia, Michigan at Michigan State. Well, you're not going to get any SEC fans to watch the game I'm going to watch, but it'll be Texas, Oklahoma for two reasons.

Number one, again, Tom Herman. This is a game Oklahoma has dominated, but we gave Tom a pass in the first couple years because Oklahoma was the reigning power and he's rebuilding the program. But Texas has not won the Big 12 championship in 11 years. years in the last 11 Red River shootouts, Texas is three and eight. But I do believe if you follow recruiting, this is the closest Texas has been in terms of overall personnel to Oklahoma. Week 7, Texas A&M at Auburn, Ohio State at Michigan State, Mississippi State at Alabama. Ohio State at Michigan State is always an entertaining game. It's a game that Buckeyes have dominated. But now, remember, Ryan Day, one year after Urban Meyer, it's great. But the test has always

been when the superstar coach leaves, you know this. It's the second year without the legend. Oregon's second year without Chip Kelly, not the same program. Miami's second year of Larry Coker maybe not quite as good. So now Urban's out for a full year. This is the second camp for Ryan Day. And I think Michigan State's got a football coach named Mel Tucker, who was at Colorado. Immediately when he got to Colorado, they were a significantly more physical football team. Keep your eye, potentially, little bit of an upset. If that game ends up at night, little bit of an upset warning here. Michigan State's good enough to win.

Week 8, Stanford at Oregon, Ohio State at Penn State, Mississippi State at LSU, Alabama, at Tennessee. Ohio State, Penn State. Now, again, the Buckeyes have been winning this game. There have been some very close games. It'll be your classic whiteout game at Penn State. This will be a night game. A couple years ago, this game was on Fox. it was about as good as football can be.

And again, James Franklin has done a remarkable job in recruiting. Penn State's not the easiest place to recruit for. It's kind of in the middle of nowhere, but I'd take that game. Week 9. I don't know if I can guess which one you're going to pick here. Oklahoma at TCU, Florida versus Georgia, Nebraska, Ohio State. Florida, Georgia. This is the best Florida team 10 years.

So this is a great Florida team. And they have the best quarterback they've had since Tim Tebow, Kyle Trask. Georgia has better talent, but Dan Mullen's now the coach at Florida. So Dan was at Mississippi State. Dan's an offensive guy. So if you look at Dan Mullen's history, when you get him a quarterback, and the quarterback comes into the second year with Dan Mullen, they score a lot of points.

Florida's a little bit of my dark horse to make the national championship game. In any other conference, I think they could win the conference. I don't think they can get through the SEC this year. This has both. Both of these teams will be top five when they play. So this will be the game of the week. Week 10, USC at Oregon, Florida State at Miami, Clemson at Notre Dame, Alabama at LSU.

I don't know how you're not going to watch Clemson at Notre Dame. So this is the national power for the last five years. Clemson's been in the playoffs. And then they go to Notre Dame. Everybody's going to think Clemson's going to roll. But Georgia went up to Notre Dame a couple years ago, Joy. And everybody thought Georgia was going to roll. And they were in a dog fight until the last two minutes of the game.

This is going to be a night game. It's going to be, you know, the big heavy favorite Clemson. But Notre Dame, Ian Book, is good enough to pull off an upset. And it's been an interesting offseason for Clemson and Davos, Sweeney. However, Alabama, LSU? I don't think LSU is very good this year. I think LSU is going to be a little bit, they're going to come unglued this year. I think Alabama is going to roll LSU this year.

I think Georgia, Florida, Alabama, and Auburn, keep your eye on. All right, week 11, Washington at USC, TCU at Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia. Again, I go back to TCU at Texas. So TCU beat them last year. Texas is supposed to win this game. So if Texas loses to LSU and loses to Oklahoma, this becomes, in many eyes, Tom Herman's job. Boosters will give you a loss to LSU or in Oklahoma. TCU is a little brother, cute little Fort Worth program with a great coach in Gary Patterson.

They beat them last year. If TCU knocks off Texas, the big old boosters, and Texas has several of them, are coming after Tom. Week 12, USC at UCLA, LSU at Auburn, Texas A&M at Alabama. I'll go LSU, Auburn, simply because it's the game before the game. I think L.S. Watch this is what's going to happen. This is LSU. Auburn's going to win this game. game big, and you're going to start hearing Ed Orgeron questions. I swear to God, this is going to

happen. They are so impatient in the SEC. Gene Chiswick won a national championship at Auburn. At the end of the following year, they were already hounding about him. A year later, he was fired. This is always a great game outside of Alabama. It's just nothing but NFL players. Week 13, Notre Dame at USC, Auburn at Alabama, Florida at Florida State, LSU at Texas A&M, Michigan at Ohio State. Okay, this is unfair. It's very unfair. This is the one week I tell my wife I'm watching six college games.

But I have said this. I think the best college football game of the year is Auburn, Alabama, not Michigan, Ohio State. It's unbelievable. Auburn knocked him out of contention last year. This is, to me, the best college football game every year. The Iron Bowl, the intensity and, you know, let's say that all you want. Alabama is obviously a dynasty. Auburn always makes them uncomfortable.

Auburn always makes... This is always a great game. And it's just NFL people all over the place. I think it's become... Of course, I'm going to watch USC Notre Dame. But this, to me, is the best game in college football. Has been probably for the last 10 years. Saban ramped it up.

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