The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier SHOCKED Islam Makhachev only has 3 MORE FIGHTS in UFC including Jack Della Maddalena

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

Daniel Cormier IS BACK with another INSTANT REACTION to the biggest news in the UFC and MMA worlds, and this week Islam Makhachev has stolen headlines. Makhachev's coach Javier Mendez says Islam has j...ust three fights left in his UFC and fighting career, despite being in his most dominant form right now. Cormier discusses the possibility of fighting Ilia Topuria at 155, and why he believes Makhachev will stay at 170 pounds and potentially fight Jack Della Maddalena and Kamaru Usman. Hear why DC thinks "it's SCARY" to hear Islam talking about being three fights away from calling it a career, despite his incredible championship form. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:03 And today's episode is brought to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in your corner with unlimited 5G data that won't slow you down. So when you're the champion of the world, you obviously bring a lot of attention. There's obviously a lot of talk about what you're doing, what your intentions are, and how you operate. We all know that one of the biggest story getters in mixed martial arts is La Mokachev.
Starting point is 00:04:33 There was a lot that went, around him going up in weight class. There was a lot of things that were in play. You even look at the social media of the Dagestanis this week, and a lot of them are making jokes about what Hunter Campbell was doing in Dagestan. But they are also talking freely and truthfully about what's going on. So clearly, Islam is a big deal, right? He carries a lot of weight, which leads to a lot of stories, and people are talking. People inside his circle are talking now. Umar and the Megamatov was speaking today and said that Islam never wanted to vacate his championship at 155. He doesn't want to give up that belt and hopes to move back to 155 after he becomes the world champion.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Look, I get it and I understand the intention, but the truth of the matter is it's very hard to cut weight, especially when you cut the amount of weight that Islam does when you don't have to. Part of the reason guys do those hard weight cuts is to become the world champ, be the best in the world, walking to that octagon knowing that you carry the gold. But if you have the belt and the weight class above,
Starting point is 00:05:49 that desire to starve, essentially, because that's all we do for a month when you're making a weight class that you're big for is you starve for as long as you have to starve in order to make the weight class. I find it very difficult, especially after watching Islam and a lot of those wands he's had recently,
Starting point is 00:06:11 him wanting to starve to go down to 155 if he is to become the world champion at 170 pounds. All that is true. I believe the biggest story of the week in regards to Makachev is one, sounds like him and Kamar Uzman are okay fighting, and if you are close to that team of fighters in dominance MMA with Ali Abdelaziz and those guys,
Starting point is 00:06:44 you know how much they try to avoid their guys fighting unless it is for championship. So for these guys to have been in such a small circle for as long as they have been, for Kamara to just openly go, My goals are more important to me than his goals are to him. And if he is to become champion in my weight class, I want to do that. I respect that. I respect that Kamar was willing to essentially stand on business and say,
Starting point is 00:07:13 I'll fight that man if I have to. I don't want to, but if I have to, I'll fight that man because I know that this is the way that I provide for my family. Javier Mendez, Islam's coach, also said that he feels, Kamaro Usman, is as close to anyone else. in terms of who Islam may fight if he has become champion. I say if Javier and then believe Islam will definitely become champion, even though we saw how great Jack Delam Adelina looked in his fight against Balaamu Khamma.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Great. Kbar Usman will fight Islam. Great. Islam's getting that title fight against Jack Delamadalina. I imagine that's going to be somewhere in the late fall, early winter, maybe Madison Square Garden, maybe that end of the year pay-per-view in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:08:06 There are many cards form the fight, but I think it will fall in line with one of those last couple fight cards of the year. Javier Mendes also said, though, that Islamakachev might have three fights, including Jack Delam Adelaina. That right there is where our energy should be spent as Islam fans.
Starting point is 00:08:29 How in the world does it, feel like another dominant champion may be saying it's about time. Why? He's young. He's the world champ. He's dominating. He's getting an opportunity to become a double champ. Why do we have to look at that again?
Starting point is 00:08:50 I think that we are in a time right now in fighting. That for me as a fan is very sad. I don't believe for a second, though, that it's going to change. I think there will be new guys that will ultimately step right at the line with where those guys leave, the Michael Chandler's, the Justin Gachie, the Charles Olivares. There will always be another guy. But when they all start to walk away, it's sad for the fan, especially the new fan, that made his way into MMA based on what those guys did for so long in that division. But Islam only has three fights. Why? Why? It's scary to me. Because I know,
Starting point is 00:09:33 knowing these guys, if he says, I've got three, and he stands that he has three, if he ever comes out and says he has three, the only saving grace right now is that someone else is saying it for him and he has not said that himself. If Islam comes out and tells us, I've got three fights left, we should all go, man, we got to lock in. Because you know that it's a special time, right? It's a special reign that Islam has created at 155. Why? Why when you're in your mid-30s are you looking to kind of walk away from the game that you are dominating?
Starting point is 00:10:12 We saw Habib do it, and he never looked back. He never looked back after he left the UFC. That should be worrisome to us as mixed martial arts fans. That if that's the case, it's a problem. We have so many more fights that we want these guys to fight. We want to see them against, uh, Jack Della. We want to see him against Usman, and we want to see him against Iliot to pour you.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That is how short a window we are talking about if this man is to walk away after three more fights. It's crazy. Justin Gachy said yesterday, if he doesn't get a title fight, he's done. That's crazy. And that's sad. To all these fighters or all these fight fans who have come during this.
Starting point is 00:11:03 This era, which to me has been as golden in error as the UFC has ever had in terms of the star power, in terms of the fight quality, in terms of the skill level of these guys that use that octagon to prove their points, show their worth, and honestly make their living. It has been a very, very good time for the entire UFC having those guys. So it should be sad to hear that all these greats are now thinking about being done. Thank goodness we have guys like Iliate to pour you, like Marab, like Pantosia, guys that are dominating their weight classes are intent to dominate their weight classes that aren't. But to me it sucks that these guys are thinking about walking away. Hold on to the idea and love the fact that Islam isn't saying it himself, someone's saying it for him. I remember when George St. Pierre started talking about retirement.
Starting point is 00:11:56 He never brought it up initially. People around them were talking about it. The fans were saying it was almost time. And the moment he made that decision and he was gone, we all regret it, walking him out of the door. Enjoy the fighters while we have them, because we will not have him long. There's some massive fights for Islamakachev.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Let's hope that he sticks around long enough to fight them all. Those are my thoughts. Guys, until next time, like, subscribe, and tell you friends, I got the YouTube channel. I'm doing things like this. We don't want those guys to retire those. Stick around, fellas. We're enjoying y'all.
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