The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Alexander Volkanovski WARNS Islam Makhachev: "I'm going for the KILL"

Episode Date: October 21, 2023

We officially will get the REMATCH between Alexander Volkanovski and Islam Makhachev, and despite the short notice, Volk says he's the most dangerous he'll EVER be. Alexander "The Great" tells DC he won't go for a 25 minute fight, he's there to "put hands on his chin and get the finish." And Alexander Volkanovski breaks down why Makhachev may be stressing too much ahead of this fight. Plus, Volk reveals how it all went down when he got the phone call from the UFC! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thanks for checking in with me, champ, as always. Hey, man. So last week, you're at home, cooking with Volk, 180 pounds, a little bit of a weight bully. I like to say, weight bully, right, 155. Heavy boy. I was heavy. You get the call. Like, what do you think?

Like, do you think of me like, shit, I'm 175, 180? Like, do I want to do this? That was a question straight away for me. Because, well, I actually see my weight the day before I got the call. Yeah. And I was with my strength and condition. coach he made me do these jumps like with my hands on the hips you got to do the jump and when you go on these things it gets your weight and I looked at it and I seen the weight and we all just started laughing like what the hell

and that was like so I had a head day one day head start yeah because once I seen that I'm like wow like he's the heaviest I've been for a long time so I was like all right I'm going to need to you know kind of bring in a lot of bit so I end up doing a few sessions that day and then I even diet a little bit and then I ended up losing a couple kilos just from that first day and then I got the call. I was like, oh, well yesterday I was this, let me check. I went on and I'm like, oh, that's not too bad.

It wasn't too bad. So I ended up being a 79 KG when I got the call but I was 82 the day before. You know, the longest, those late notice flights are different because you have them where they're like short notices for me back in the day long. Short as most I ever had was like seven weeks, right?

And I was like, that's pretty quick, but I'll do it. 11 days is absurd. What goes into a decision like that? I mean, it's an opportunity, right? Like, what if I don't get this rematch? I was seeing their thing, because I know they had Charles, and then I'm pretty sure they were going to do Justin Gagy next. And then he's talking about moving up and doing all this.

And I'm like, you know, you never know. What if I don't get this rematch? This promises me the rematch. It's a big opportunity. and I always talk about I'm the guy that will do these things, you know what I mean? So I can't be the guy that won't do it, right? So I've always said I'm the guy that will do it and the guy that will put himself in a position where he can because I've been a professional for the last 12 years.

So the consistency that I've put makes me be able to at least do do this, which is, yeah, again, it's a crazy opportunity and that's just how I'll look at it. When stuff like this happens, people start asking questions, right? And someone asked me, they said, does Volkanowski taking this fight on such short notice put his rematch at risk? Because it was almost a given that you would continue to dominate a featherweight. And then ultimately you would at some point fight 155 for the belt again. So it was almost like, is this risky? Because you could, in theory, have a full training camp, still have an opportunity to fight Islamahadha.

Yeah. Well, obviously, that's what it is, right? So now I have to do this rematch on 12 days instead of a full camp. But again, at least this is promised for me. Yeah, for right now. You know what I mean? So one thing I wanted to touch on for your last question, when you talked about the short camp,

but being so short, at least, you know, like you said, when you sometimes get a short camp in it's four weeks. You're going to kill yourself for the four weeks. You know what I mean? So then you're, all right, you probably didn't have the perfect camp anyway, and then now you're still that mentally and physically fatigue.

I don't have time for that. I didn't have time, but obviously I trained hard, but I mean, what's four? four or five days of solid hard or four days of hard training in how much is that going to mentally physically drain you don't get me wrong i went to work and uh i improved that fitness in that short amount of time i was pretty impressed but i'm still excited i'm still excited i'm still fresh mentally yeah no crazy niggily's from a full care you don't have those days where you're just like oh my god more weeks you know what i mean it's a it can be so like uh obviously you would

still want that because you can prepare properly but all right i can't do that i accept What I can do is be fresh, excited, and dangerous. And you know what I mean? And that's what all my focus is on. You know, you decide to do this. How much from the first fight makes you go, I want this fight? Because at the end of the last fight, you were the guy that was winning. And you were winning in a really impressive fashion.

It's not like you were eking by in round five. because I was telling this to Ryan Clark last night. Everything before was a guess. He looks like he's unbelievably strong on the mat. Once he gets you down, he's spitting everybody. You make him king calm. But then once you're in there, you're like, well, he doesn't hit all that hard.

I can defend the takedowns. How much confidence did that give you to say, you know what, man, I'll do this right now? Yeah, for sure. It is going to give you a lot of confidence in then, you know, even having this, the fact that it's 12 days as well. So I seen that, and I showed him a lot of respect, obviously, in the fight, you're going to show him that a lot of that respect.

I felt like I could have, and it's, well, respect deserved, right? Well, you said that after the fight, though, you're imagining like, fuck, I could have didn't. Yes, exactly. So now I know that. You're not going to show him that respect. Well, I don't have time to. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't have time to prepare. You know what I mean? I can't afford to show him respect. Yeah. So, which, and now I know I don't really need to. anyway and like and that does that's no disrespect to him but that's just i i can't sit there and like oh i play it this way play it that way if you know maybe goes a decision try and win at this or try and wear

him out uh or i can't afford any of that i've got a strict path of what i need to do like you know what i mean it's it's clear to me i want to finish anyway um and i'm going to go in for the kill because i know i can from the first fight i believe i can i believe i don't need to show him as much respect i believe even with my cardio even if we are scrambling i'm going to be full confidence in that I'll be full confidence it goes back to the feet, and I'm going to have to go in for the kill. One of the things that's very evident whenever you fight is like you fight five rounds, and it looks like you can do 10. So when it was announced that you were going to get this on short notice,

I have no doubt that you can do 25 minutes in your sleep because I can't imagine there's a time where you're not in the gym. It seems like you're constantly in there, just always prepping. And in between is when you improve. You don't improve in training camp. In training camp, you're locked in on what you have to do for that first. for that specific fight. In the middle is when you're trying new things,

you're adding new skills, and you can really improve in those moments. You look like a guy that's constantly in the lab getting better. So that's what we're always doing. So we're always at least trying to keep in half decent shape, but a lot of it is that's where you get your, it's where you evolve, the development. So it's not like you're in camp trying to like, you know, prepare for a fight, but at the same time I'm still in the gym.

I'm still keeping this sharp as well. So you know what I mean? And there's not really many days that go by that when I'm in the gym and we're going through techniques and all that, that the Islam fight doesn't come up in some of the things that we're doing. It's familiar. It's familiar. I mean, I learned so much from that. And then all year, you're doing this eye and this one, this happened.

So you end up going through that. So it's like that's been on my mind, the technique side of things, the whole way through. So it's like I've been prepping for this anyway. Like, you know what I mean, in certain positions. Would I rather have eight to ten weeks of training camp so I know I can break him and I can really put it on him and wherever it goes, you know, I don't have to show him respect. And then I know that, oh, my gas tank, I believe I was going to hold on strong. Yeah, all right, but I don't have time. I can't afford to do any of that.

I'm going to go in for the kill anyway. And let's go get the job done. After watching Fight and One, I felt like that was one of a few that you guys would have, right? because you're extremely dominant, he's extremely dominant, you guys would always come together. You're too good, not too. But now it seems like you're going into this fight,

no pressure. You're like, I'm stopping this dude. I'm going to go out there and finish this dude. And I watch you do it constantly. You broke Yaya Rodriguez down, bro. You hit him harder earlier than you did on the final shot. But it was just like, this dude is not going to stop.

He really had nothing for you. Can you apply those lessons from fight? one to fight two to assure that you can do that. You can go out there and finish a guy that really hasn't shown many weaknesses in the octagon. Yeah, man, exactly right. He hasn't. So this is where I've got to have full confidence in my ability.

And the beauty, again, short notice. You have no pressure. Like, yeah, the pressure, so there's a difference. There is no pressure. I'm not feeling pressure. I believe he is. And he definitely will. And that's just fact.

He's going to have to. There's pressure of the fact that, yeah, everyone knows I come on 12-day notice. and they're not just that. This isn't just anyone coming in on 12 days. And he knows that. You're the pomp on them on. I'm going to come in 12 days' notice and still going to be fit, going to be strong, probably for the whole 25 minutes.

It's him. And then now, again, I'm going to, mate, I'm going to, I forget where I was going to go with that question. How did you first ask that question? Because I was going somewhere first. You think I remember? You think I remember? I was going somewhere.

I wanted to touch on that and I was going to come back. I didn't do this whole shit. Like, you're still in the middle of it. Like, I don't have been through it and done with it. Like, I don't remember that shit, man. I re-able too much, and sometimes I just completely forget, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't, I have no idea. I literally looked off to the right and thought about golf.

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There's a lot to lose for him. There's a lot to lose for me. Remember, like you touched on it earlier. This is the rematch that everyone knows I want. I wanted, you know, I want that win back. I want that lightweight title. Now I have to do that one on 12 days notice, which you're like, why are you doing it? But at least this is guaranteed.

And, you know, high risk, high reward. There's so many other things that come into play. So, but, you know, one thing is I've accepted the fact that it's a short notice. And I, you know, so, yeah, like the pressure's on him. I'm not letting there be pressure on me and I'm accepting that. And who cares? You're going out there and you've got a job to do. And that's that.

You know what I mean? So it's like a freedom. It's almost a freedom and a, I don't know, it was like a freedom and swag about me. It's like, oh, I know I can tell. Let's do it. Let's do it. You know what I mean?

You want to lay my fucking sweet. Sorry. Sweet, no worries. No worries. I'm happy to lean one too. You know what I mean? Like I'm ready to, you know, I've never really been in a situation as killer be killed.

And I think I'm going to be a dangerous man like that. You guys are in very close quarters. He just walked past. You walk right in. I was talking about. Are you just in here, was he? He just walked past. He didn't do the interview, but he walked past and then you walk in, but you guys are in

very close quarters. And then Ray, the guy on the camera goes, well, these guys are kind of buddy buddy. A few years ago, Tony Ferguson and Donald Serroney were in the sauna together. I said, no, these guys aren't buddy buddies. You guys aren't buddy, buddy. There's a mutual respect for each other. But you guys ain't sauning together and you guys ain't coming together in these hallways giving hugs and shit.

It ain't like Dadvol, come on. No, of course not. Like, you know what I mean? Again, there's going to be respect. But at the same time, there is that little bit of rivalry. Yeah, so, you know what I mean? There's going to be, there's a little of the history, right? Like, especially for him, he's the, for me, I'm like, oh, yeah, whatever.

Like, I'm all good. Like, you know what I mean? But I can feel, I've been in his position where he got his hand raised. And think of the, like, negative sort of feedback he got from that whole situation. Yeah, for sure. And you could see, like, that's, you know, affecting him. That's why there's a bit, a lot of pressure as well. So you can see that.

So I think on his side, like, I'll be more than happy to shake hands. And I would do someone with him. No way. I guarantee you he wouldn't. I guarantee you he wouldn't. Let me say this. So there is pressure, right? But there's this idea, especially from the interview you and I did with him,

where it was almost like he was looking past you. Right? So people may say to him, well, you look past him the first. time this time you're more locked in you should be able to handle this do you think after we sat down and he was make didn't he didn't feel like he respected the wrestling he didn't know was in front of him do you feel like he might have looked down the line a little bit when you guys were fighting the first time oh good yeah but he would have but the thing is this is what uh I touched on with uh just in the

media day he he's gonna always be prepared you are sure you've been in the gym with him yeah when is he not I don't care how easy how easy he thinks the fight's going to be, you think Khabib and Haviers is just going to let him just cruise? No, they're going to put the work in. They're always going to do that. But that can mentally be a problem, especially when someone like me steps up and starts stuff and takedown, starts getting up and putting hands on you, starts getting takedowns on you or like getting you, like, well, where's this coming from? If you've got that mentality going in, it's going to, you know, it's going to break you a little bit, right? You're going to be like mentally, physically draining because I expected something.

Even though he prepared well. You can't expect. Exactly right, especially when things don't go to plan, you're going to start, your head's going to start going on. Oh, shit, where's this going? What's going on here? So that definitely was a fact, I believe. I know he's prepared properly. But, you know, I think the fact that he went in there thinking that it might have been easier, even though he prepared well, that can sometimes be a problem up here. A little bit of a switching crowd.

I mean, it was crazy in Perth. It was coming through the TV, right? Obviously, you'll get a little bit of a different reaction here in Avondavi. Do you think that can play a part into the idea of how the fight is going? For me, it doesn't matter like our boss. It seemed like it was propelling you. They would go crazy and you would just turn into Superman. And honestly, as a guy that trained with Malkichikov, I was like, man, no rematch.

No rematch. No rematch. Because I'd never seen anybody push him in that way. But you know it's going to be you because you do it every single time. And I honestly, I'm a guy that loves to talk. And you're like one of the only guys that actually makes me like at a loss. worth because how the fuck are you so good at this shit it's hard like it's a hard thing to do this game so you touched on uh the having the crowd advantage i probably made some uh bad decisions

because of that too right oh you know what i mean like there was times where i was thinking i was talking to his corner i can't remember who i was talking to and that's when he got his body body triangle i started yapping a bit um and there was a couple of things that you know i probably could could have changed and not got so overzealous is that the right word yeah but we'll think about it so a lot of people like oh yeah you thrive of that but I mean then you watch me against max the third time yeah you I was getting booed I'll get booed and then that that booed you know the booing motivated me so I'm no matter of the situation I've said this every time if you boo for me I'm gonna make it work you cheer for me I'm gonna make it work

yeah that's just how I am so for him I know I'm not gonna be affected by it cheer or boo me whatever it doesn't matter I've got a job to do and that's all I focus on he it seems to play on him a little bit so yeah he might think that all right now I've got my crowd I go all right so you're really paying attention to that now you put more pressure on yourself you don't want to lose in front of all these people to a guy on 12 days notice you're going to start telling him

yeah I'm gonna be like you're gonna tell him yeah you're gonna tell him that when you see him yeah like oh I'm gonna go mate you still hey I'm still feel strong don't I you know what I mean I'm like there's a lot of people here to support you you better not embarrassing you know what I mean like yeah I'm not mind to talk but I mean you get what I mean like that's putting pressure on himself when you start looking at it that way I remember fighting at home.

I feel like sometimes I could put more pressure on yourself earlier in my career because that's how I looked at it. Where now I don't. So I had that, maybe I got a little bit overzealous but you know what I mean?

I didn't like that was maybe the only thing. But again, if you are relying on all these other things, mate, I'm the wrong man to be in front of you because I ain't going to lose composure for a second.

Like you know what I mean? I'm going to be calm. You know what I mean? I'm not going to lose I'm not going to stress, you're not going to see any of that. And if you stress because you're getting booed or because you don't have a kabib in your corner or things like that, I'm like, I'm like, I don't care.

I don't care what is in your favour? Me being in front of you, things aren't going to go to plan all the time. And if these little things are going to affect you, just me being in front of you is going to affect you 100%. So you better not care about any of that shit and just be ready to turn up because I'm going to make it a fight no matter one day notice, it doesn't matter.

I'm going to make it a fight every single time. And if you need to have all these perfect things, oh, I get 10 more hours in rehydration after, I don't know how 30 something isn't enough, but he wants 40 something or whatever it is. And if you're going to really focus and think these things are going to help you, he's going to be in for a rude shock again. And that's fact.

Like, I mean, if he's expecting these little things that give him massive advantage, like obviously the 12-day camp, all right, He can think that, but again, if he sits there thinking, ah, he's going to be tired, he's going to be for a rude shock. Yeah. Because, I mean, it's, like you said, I can not train all year. I can do five rounds, I guarantee you. At a pace of this one, do I want to keep it at five rounds after not train,

not train it? All right, let's not get it there if I didn't train. But I have been training. I'm so confident in my fitness. But again, I don't plan on trying to break him out there. I plan on putting hands on him and getting the finish. last couple things ideal

ideal for Saturday night or Sunday morning I don't even know when we fight in this place man Saturday night for you like how's this end for you the timing

how does this fight end for you oh how does it end I'm going for the finish I have to I've got a clear path and that's why I'm going to be so dangerous I have to go in for the finish

he ain't an easy man to finish but that just adds to my story when I do get the job done again I ain't sitting here trying to break him I ain't thinking of all these, oh, if it goes this way, it goes, ah, I can't afford to think any of that. I'm going in there to put hands on his chin, and I want to get that finish.

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Yeah, yeah, done. Done? All right, y'all see this? Me and the champ. Cajun food next time he's in Vegas Cooking with Volk. Cooking with Volk. All right? 100%.

Me and you. Let's go. We'll go somewhere and get something to do or you want me to cook it for you? No, no, no, no. We will cook together. I will teach it. I will teach you how to make the Cajun food. Okay, sweet. We give it to your channel.

You go and you put it to your people. No, no, we'll do it. Let's do it. Sounds good. Then we'll let the Australian people know how we get down in Louisiana a little bit. Louisiana. I've actually had some Louisiana style. It's really good.

It's good. It's good. It's good. Tokonovsky takes on Islam Mahachev on Saturday night, UFC 294. Pop-Falbom Best Fighter in the world goes up again to take on one of the most dangerous men in the planet. Make sure you like, subscribe, tap into his YouTube channel and everything else. This man does. He is a winner across the board. Until next time, guys, like, subscribe.

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