The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - BEST OF UFC 311: Islam Makhachev, Umar Nurmagomedov, Merab Dvalishvili

Episode Date: January 25, 2025

Daniel Cormier IS BACK with his check ins in 2025, and after some historic performances at UFC 311 in Los Angeles, you can enjoy THE BEST MOMENTS from DC's check ins with Islam Makhachev, Umar Nurmagomedov and Merab Dvalishvili! Islam tells DC why his parents don't ever watch his fights, and give his take on Khabib Nurmagomedov getting kicked off a plane! Plus, Umar argues with Cormier about why DC is NOT A GANGSTER. And Merab Dvalishvili talks about his BEEF with Umar, and why the UFC wouldn't let Merab into the UFC PI on multiple occasions. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh man thanks for checking in with me guys always my boy is my boy is Islam Mahachev Defend's Championship this weekend at UFC 311. How you feeling, champ? How's everything? Feel good, drinking water, cutting weight. That's it. You smell that biscuit? You like that?

Sunday. I'm waiting morning. Sunday morning. Before you leave, I promise you. Have to be fresh. Fresh, hot. Okay. Warm.

You're going to eat this? Deal. Okay. Las Vegas for training camp this time. How was that, man? I mean, I read something the other day when you're talking to Demetri Johnson. You had a baby?

He then left the next day for trading camp. Third one. Third baby. How many you have? Three. Three. Are you done? No, I want seven.

You want seven children. Yes. Why seven children? Full wrestling team? Seven weight class, Olympics. Some of the judo, samba, wrestling. Maybe someone do MMA. Now I have two boys.

Two boys. Yes. Nice. I have to be four, but big family is good, man. Yeah. I built new house. You did already? A couple years ago, yeah.

It's beautiful? Beautiful. I saw Kabeb's house, beautiful house. Is your house like Kabeb's house? A big house like residence, you know, it's so big. It's so big. Like yours like this? Mine, not so big.

I live with my grandmother, my father, mother, but it's big, but not crazy. Yeah. I saw your father when you first won the belt. This guy was very happy, huh? Yeah, yeah. Very proud of this guy is a village guy, you know. He's still. doing his farm, green farm here.

Just called me today morning you say, tomato is ready. Tomatoes are ready? He's excited about tomatoes? You're fighting for the world title this weekend. This is talking about tomatoes. He don't care too much about this all stuff. What you mean, man? He's not on sports, you know.

He's just hard worker all his life. He worked with his hand, you know. Your whole family, they watch the fights, though. Mom, dad, kids. Mom can't watch? Mom never watched the fight. Why? Never again, like, after if I win, and I would never watch.

Even if you win, she doesn't go back and watch it? Never, never. Why? I don't know. She don't like. So my mom used to go, and the whole time she was kind of like, like this, you know, eyes down, scared. My mama go outside the house, and she walked around the city. The guard.

Yeah, around where I live. And when I won, somebody, like, from the other house, go, like, crazy, you know, and she understands. Didn't she understand you when she go back inside now? Now she can sit and be comfortable. She noticed too much. Yeah. So Las Vegas, though, training camp. How was that?

We spoke at, I think we spoke at the last paper view. You were a little concerned about Habib losing his mind during training camp. Did he lose his mind? And how was the training camp in preparation? Why you don't control? Brother, I go, this crazy month. Gymnastics, something. Not even gymnastics.

No excuse it. It's just like, it's impossible. You go to Las Vegas. Why Las Vegas is? It's very far. 50 minutes by fly from your house. Yeah. But if I go to the fly, I never know if maybe they threw me out.

They three. This is the craziest situation. In an energy, you can help people? Bro, why they kick him out? Like, this crazy. Why do you do this to my guy? I don't know. This is number one bullshit, disrespect.

Disrespect. For sure, for sure. Disrespect. Brother, I understand if they kick you out from this emerging ex. Because you're so big, maybe... Don't do that. Don't be disrespectful. Don't be disrespectful.

I can help because you need strength to pull the bar. Oh, you're a little bit big now you cannot move too much. No, but all you got to do is pull the lever. That's it. But people have to go from this side. Yeah, but once I pull, I go. You go first? I go first.

I go first. You go first or you go last? I go less. You wait. I help everybody. Yeah, Abib, go last too. So what happened is like these people for the front day, this airline company, disrespectful, they took the worst guy, this guy's the best guy to be in there. It's crazy. It's crazy. But how was the camp? Camp, it's really hard, man. It was hard. And I like to training in Vegas, U.S. CPA, like, all therapy, food, everything. It's good, you know, training there.

Brand new facilities, recovery, training. Like, UECPA team, it's so good, you know. Thank you everyone from UFCPI. They help us a lot. And we have everything what we need in last camp in Vegas. When you weigh your camps, your last couple camps in Dagestan to this one, like, is this something you're going to be doing more going forward, coming out to Las Vegas to do your camps?

We're thinking where we can make the camp, you know. And Vegas. or San Jose and because this time three guys... Cold, San Jose too. It's cold also. Gym is cold sometimes. And because we become like big team, like three guys fighting, that's why we sit with the Habib with the coach

and we choose the Vegas. Nice. Vegas, honestly, one of the... It's a great place for training. Especially right now with the PI. It's a great place. Yeah, Apex. They have everything. Islam, you're fighting Arman's Ruky.

again the first time, right? Even we did, right? When you came back from fight, we all make fun. Like, oh, you lose a round, you do this, and you said, brother, I went every round. Like, I won three rounds to zero. Yeah. But he fought you on short notice.

Do you anticipate a much different fight this time than he got in the last fight? Man, maybe first time I'm a little bit underestimating because I don't know these guys. He even not, I signed him in the UFC, even not in He wasn't signed before he fought you.

They looking for opponent for me. That's why he signed there. Because no one from US or other countries want to come to Russia and fight with me. That's why that time we signed him. And he grew up more experience now. He's a big guy now. He's big.

Big experience and one of the best in our division. In that first fight, it seemed as as though he was more willing to wrestle you offensively. Most people shy away from that. They just think defend Islam's takedowns, right? So then they're kind of on their heels the whole time because they're thinking shot, shot, shot, which ultimately leads to you being better with your hands.

Do you anticipate he's going to be trying to wrestle you again in this fight? Yeah, because all his fight, he has same style. If you look how many nine, ten fight he have in the UFC right now, He has always same style with everybody. He goes with the striking little bit, and when somebody tried to push him, he goes to take it down. That's why, because why he, number one,

why I'm the champion? Because he has good skills in the wrestling, because I have good skills in the wrestling. Who have good skills in the wrestling, they control the division. You know, it is universally thought. that means universal like everybody believe this that this is the toughest fight to date for Islam Mahachav do you agree the first one this one this weekend is the

toughest fight that you'll see nobody no you know nobody know some of the fights it's for example when I was fighting with the Tibau Glacan Tibao in my mind I prepare like myself for the very hard fight you know but it was to go easy, you know. And I remember that we fought together that night. You knocked them out, yeah? Yeah, straight left here. You get the bonus. You knock him down. You knock him on. Good, you get bonus. And you, what you did? Submission. Submission? Sammission. Yeah. Not ambition. You're ground and pound.

No submission. This was against Rumble Johnson? Or Volcano. Like, Uzzi Mir. Okay, yeah, ground and pound. They don't give me a bonus. They'll give you bonus. No, I thought you got the bonus. No. That night I don't get the bonus. I wonder why? Why you get the bonus? Why you get the bonus? I don't know. You're a rich guy now. You don't need the bonus now. Now I don't need but that time I need the bonus. You have to come to my room. I'm not dessert ma. And give you the 50 grand? Yes, brother. So you're telling me right now if you get a bonus over Umar, right? You'll take the 50 grand and go give it to Umar. Tadir. Tagir, Tagir. So you would go give Tadir, he would not do that. If Tagir wants some like crazy things. But you didn't do a crazy thing? You hit a one punch? One punch, Nike Mount Sleep. But okay, like, if maybe you do like spinning back fist twice, like this guy in Abu Dhabi, okay, I give him the money. But if you only do one punch, knock out, and I do the same thing, we do the same thing. What you did?

Punch, just punch finish. Grand and pound, you know, go easy. What did you, what did I hit him with? My fist. Yes. What did you hit the guy with? Your fist. My arms.

So it's the same thing, right? Like, there's no reason to give you the 50 grand. You know what shoes this is? I don't care. Monclair, brother, I won't care. No. Next time, do here, some other, like. Here, watch I show you.

This is a good shoe, man. Look, I promise just look. Vince, how is name? It's a, it's a converse. This is a great shoe, brother. Hey, look, come here. This one. Why?

You, for me, put like this. No, but like, you know what gang, you know what this word, gangster? Brother, I'm not gangster. No, but you know this original gangster? Who's, who's, who's, who's, are you no gangster? This, like Dr. Dre, E, like this, gangster. For me, too?

For me, rappers, rappers. Brother, for me, there's not gangsters. I'm gangster. How? Me? How are you gangster? Who you kill?

Everybody. Brother. How many times I kill you in the gym? Okay. How many times I kill you in the gym? Brother, gangsters, not people who... fighting in the gym. So what a gangsters?

But are they killing people of the gangsters? In the street? Of course. Come on. Okay, Al Capone, who is? Al Capone? He was a gangster, right? You, here.

No, I'm not. Like a gangster. No, this is not true. How many people do you give? In my life? I cannot say this because I've been my ear. I go to jail if I say, if I say, I go to jail. How would muha?

Why? Tell this guy. I think you even not kill fly, brother, like this. This is bullshit. You're not, rather. He's not gangster. You don't think so? Of course, mother,

you've known me now all these years and you don't think I'm gang. Brother, gangster not sitting in front of camera and talking with fighters. Gangsters try to hide. So what happened was I used to hide. Now I'm trying to redo my image. Brother, even Kane Velasquez,

more gangster than you. Kane Velazquez is more gangster than me. Of course. Why? Because of he acts like a gangster. Like a man. I'm a man. Who is this guy you bring?

It's my training part. This guy come out of nowhere. This guy talked to him. This is your PR guy? Brother, brother. This media guy. Brother, let's talk about sport. Gangster stuff, it's not your.

You think you are? You sit like that and you think you're a gangster? No, brother. When I tell you sit like that? I'm confident. I want to talk sick like this because it's comfortable. When I said I'm gangster. Never.

Okay, well, I am. You ain't gonna change my mind. I know what I am. I'm from the streets. Okay, I'm the president. You're saying. Nobody can say, I'm not. You never gonna change my mind.

Like, I'm the president. You know what's crazy? You have to respect me. And if I tell you something, you have to respect this, right? Big Brother, always, you have to respect. I respect you. So you have to, if I say, I'm gangster,

you guys say, okay. No. We have to say about true. Okay, you have to, you can say like anything. Like, I'm from Marry. I have to say this is from ours. No, you have to, no, you don't have to repeat all you have to say is okay brother. No.

For respect? Respect, it's like you, one of the greatest fighters. It's respect. I say true, it's true. You are you, brother, former champion. Dude, it's so hot. You're sweet thing, brother, why? It's so hot.

You want to be gangster? I get nervous when you talk about. Where's your guns? I have, oh, no, I had my house. We're not allowed to carry these here. Brother, if you're gangster, we have to put here, put here. Somebody give me. You have to watch it around, like who coming, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We have some follows up here. Okay, thank you. All right. Guys, Umar under Megamatoff, challenges for the UFC Bannamweight Championship this weekend. Finally. You feel like finally. Marab is saying you don't deserve yet, though.

But you feel like finally. Okay, I have a question for you. Tell me. Let's talk about facts. Fax. Marlon Vera, fight, fought for the title after once a win streak. He beat Pedro Munoz. Do you know who is Pedro Munoz?

I do know who he is. He beat Pedro Munoz and fought for the title. One, then he not cried. But I think Marab, but I think Maraub should have fought for the title then. Why he doesn't fight? Because Al J. Mastellon was his friend was champion, right? He was... No, no, no, no, you're confused.

Cheeto Vera beat and fought against Sean O'Malley. I talk about it. I forget. T.J. D.O. Show fought for the title after one string. Very close fight with Corrie. Hagen? Yeah. He won that fight. After that he fought for the title with Algemin Stirling, right? Yeah. But why he don't say T.J. D. DeL. Show not deserve. Do you hear this? And he didn't say that. No, he don't say nothing. He was happy to, for Algeem and Sterling because he

fought for the title, right? For that moment, he was good win streak. Maybe six, maybe eight. I don't know exactly. Marab have like Longwood Street. Yes, why he don't say? Because his teammate. And why he cry now? If your teammate was champion, that's why you have too long win streak. And you fought for the title after that he'll lose, you take chance. Why everybody has to fight for the title after 10 winsick?

Why? Al Jemistanik fought for the title after five. Five. Yep. Peter Malyan after six. T.J. D.O. Show after one. Marlon Vera after one. And you after?

Five. Brother. Six. Six. I have six. I deserve it not because of, okay, six fight in the UFC, right? No, lose even one round. What do you mean that was one round?

Even one round, I'm not losing. Not losing. You haven't lost the round. Even one. I beat everybody. I beat everyone. Like every round, I, you know, I won. So this was expected.

This was like, this was expected. Like, this title opportunity is expected. Father, he just can't talk like he not deserve, he not deserve, but everybody knows. He won't fight with me because of he, he won't, he won't lose. Let's let's talk about, right? When you sit with personal with someone, like, not a security, no one, just you and him, it's different. Yes, for sure. Everybody can talk with the camera, with security, took bad things, like, act like he's like enemy, he's like enemy, he's like,

he's like someone like gangster even like even like guy if it's gonna be looking like gangster like you know my uncle teach me he said to me one time this guy's I'll even think he's a gangster

no he's a best manager brother he's a great manager brother listen to me gangsters always hide he can't walk brother here brother here brother they have police

looking for, right? Hey. Let's talk about my interview. Let's go, please, please. Because this guy, at least crazy. Go ahead, finish. Your uncle taught you... He's touched me.

He said to me, if someone has a problem with you, personal. He comes to your home, and look your door, tell you, can you come? I have a question for you. Why you do like that?

When you and him alone, nobody will break, right? It's a gangster style. But when there's a lot of security, where's, they, they're going to do something,

you know. Two different situation. I was in Las Vegas one month, right? Five, six weeks, like I was in there. But I saw, I saw one time he was at the PI and he got locked out because you were in there. Las Vegas finished in the PI? What? Okay, Las Vegas have place only in PI?

No, I get it, but like he couldn't go inside because I think they were, they were. They didn't care about him. I think they were working actively to keep you guys separated. They take care about, not about me. They take care about him. When they tell him, go home, don't come to care. Really?

Rather, you think he can do something with me? I mean, you guys are going to find out on Saturday night? We're going to see what's going to happen. How do you... No, I'm talking about it. If you have personal something... Oh, so like in public, anywhere. Yes, yes.

Come to me. Right? Come to me, tell me everything what you want. Like personal. Like a man, right? Gangster style. But if you want to promote fight, do like that.

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Shono Mali was champion. Was that a hard fight? No, no hard fight. But he has a knockout power. He can knock out everybody, you know, anybody, you know. If he landed you, he will knock you out. So that was risky fight for sure. But we have a great training camp and good plans.

And yeah, I beat him easy way and wasn't hard. To watch Umer's fight, yeah, he did good against Corey Sagan. He beat number two guy and then, you know, Umar is a good fighter. Well-rounded, you know, he can wrestling, can do grappling, and, you know, he is a good triker also. And yeah, that was just one good fight against a ranked opponent. You just think that he should have fought more guys to get to the title fight? Yes, yes.

At least one more like he was supposed to fight Song-gy-dong. And then, yes, just fight so long as you don't stay busy and don't pull out and just prove it like the rest of us, you know, like we deserve it. And, like, you know, that's, that was my thing. Morab, how has your life changed since you became the champion? Life, not much. I'm still the same guy. I'm still living the same house and I still have same people around me. And, but of course, I get so much respect, so much love, so much support as I'm a champion.

And, you know, like, now I am, how you say, well, I mean, you guys, what's the call, you guys? Aljo. No, no, no, no, Aljo's, it can be translated. Aljoin, I translate this. He's in our what? World, realm? Room, maybe, right, maybe room. Like, realm, like, you are.

now champion with everybody else's champion. So you're a great champion, but I'm a champion too. Yeah. So I'm in the room with you. Same category. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when I went to your house after the fight and you were running the next day,

it tells me how much you live this life of a champion. What would it mean to you to beat a guy in Umar in a Mega Medal up that's undefeated that is, you know, it's almost like, it's almost like he's almost like he. He's the champion, right? The way people talk. It's almost like he's the champion. What would it mean to you to stop and shut all that up? And keep your belt.

Because ultimately it's always about keeping the belt, right? Right. You're right. You make a good point with that. Yeah, exactly. I'm focused on win this fight and people will realize again. Because people doubted me even before Shonomali's fight, even before Henry Shehudu's fight,

before people, Italians fight and I mean I was underdog many times but but all I have to I want to just just win for my friends my team and people will realize is he the underdog are you the underdog I am underdog yeah I'm a what is big underdard minus 300 minus 300 yeah yeah that's crazy yeah that serves as motivation right? Listen, I was an underdog fighting Anthony Johnson two times. Ah, interesting.

And it was really like motivating for me to train harder and be like, I'm going to shut everybody up. I was the champion and I was the underdog. Yeah, interesting. But no, it's not, this is, I don't pay attention to this because there are so many people they have on opinions and especially Umar's fans are acting crazy. I have to block so many people every day to like, because they're not. They just disrespect me, man.

Yeah. And then, yeah, I'm just focusing myself. Yeah, underdog, because I don't, I'm not focused on these people and this who makes odds and stuff like this because they don't fight. They don't go in the oxygen on a fight. Yeah, only you can. You know, and then, you know, not. Yeah, so this is what's matter is I have to show up. And I believe hard work.

I was working hard. And I believe hard work will pace off. And I will be winner, January 18. What does the perfect fight look like, Marab? Like, you're just taking him down over and over. Like, what is, like, the perfect fight? Because I've seen you almost render guys helpless, right? Like, you shot so many times on Pioreana.

It looked like he was almost like watching the clock to see when the time would run out. So he didn't have to defend takedowns anymore. Or what, like, the perfect night end with you? you beating them in the striking. Perfect night will be punch his face much as

a lot of punches in the face. Yeah. Damage in your head. Last one before I let you go. So I follow you on Instagram. I think you're like insanely, I think you're like insanely funny. I like when you were slapping that girl's ass.

Hey, he said, he said, hey, can I touch this? I ask me. She's twergin' in front of you. That's me. I will ask if I get permission, then I can. Brother, can I touch this? Hey, bow, bow, bow.

It was so funny, dude. But I saw you outside of the PI one time, like you got locked out. Like you got locked out of the PI? They happened multiple times. This training camp multiple times has happened. That was the first time when I posted. but it happened after this. What is the UFC said to you about this?

Not UFC. Just like safe to the PI, like want to make sure y'all separated? Security to me, I'm sorry, man, we love you. But, Umarri is inside. We can let you in. I'm like, bro, I have injury. I have appointment. So they don't give you guys, like, appointment times?

In terms of like when you can go, he can go? Usually how it is, you know, I training, training. I finish training at Stintech at 1 p.m. And right after training, I go. So to PI. Shower, treatment. Yeah. And then, yeah, if I want, like, what's it called? Recovery.

Recovery, yeah. Yeah, yeah, stuff like this. Yeah. And then, or maybe nighttime training after. But now every time, not every time, but a couple of times, Umar was there. And the security, I guess, there was a prey to something. Like y'all might fight.

Yeah. But you don't get paid to fight in PI. Yeah, PI, yeah, I respect PI also a lot. But I was, at that time, I was really mad about women. So you were going to fight at the PI? So the security made the right choice by not letting you in. So security actually did the right thing. Yeah, but I still, I was still feel disrespectful.

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