The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - BEST OF UFC 313: Justin Gaethje watching Max Holloway KO + Rafael Fiziev on rematch | DC Check-Ins

Episode Date: March 22, 2025

At UFC 313 in Las Vegas, Justin Gaethje WAS READY for his rematch with Rafael Fiziev. He admits he actually rewatched getting knocked out by Max Holloway for the first time, and relives what was one of the most brutal KOs in UFC history. Rafael Fiziev told Daniel Cormier he feels "LUCKY" to be getting this rematch, and talks about how he had hoped to make the most of it. And don't miss Gaethje call out DC for cheating "every time he golfs!" #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How you been? Great. How's life? I mean, I've been calling you. Yeah, it's been amazing. You don't answer. That's not true. What did I do to you?

You lie. Hey, why? No. You lie. What about whenever I went into the media? I don't have one missed call from you. What about when I went into the media? media and was like, I want this fight and this fight.

And you accused me of like not doing something. What was that? When? Last week I go do a video. I'm like, I tell the fight that I want, all of a sudden you decide you're going to do something different. Why don't you just like, let me try to help you? Because you say one thing and then do something else.

That's not true, though. That's what I saw. That's not true, though. That's what I saw. You understand why I understand why I. So you said ESPN got me? They got you. They don't trust me?

No, they got me. They got me? Yeah. Because they misquoted me? You're calling me, getting personal information and then using it. Did I be, is that, is that not a betrayal? I asked you to use everything I do with you, I asked to use. No, you said, okay, this is what I'm going to do.

And I said, perfect. And then that didn't happen. That's so crazy. That's so crazy. Really, that's exactly. He's such a fucking liar. Hey. Who's the liar, boys?

Come on. Justin. Thanks for checking in with me again, boy. Let's do it. Hey, uh, you miss a Sizzler since I was in Denver. Have you been back? Every time I go. Golden Corral?

No, I have not. Wait, have you been back since? Was that not one of the greatest experiences? It feels like I went to buy you dinner. I was like, cool. Takes me the fucking Golden Corral. Wait. Wait, did you not like it?

They didn't even have fried shrimp or okra. Yeah, they did. They didn't have no okra. You didn't go on the right line. They, I went in every line looking for the, Can I be honest? I asked for the okra. I found great joy seeing you in there with all these common people.

We're wearing your $1,000 shoes. You're wearing $1,000 shoes and a $30,000 watch in Golden Corral. I don't own a watch. I don't own a watch. I don't own a thousand-dollar shoes. There are a $30,000 watch and $1,000 shoes in Golden Corral. Live like a horse. Wait.

What? You felt so out of place Did you go to dinner after Together would just Luke who Cut my coach Did you go to eat after we ate Are you satisfied with the dinner

I watched I wouldn't have food yes So my dinner wasn't good enough for you No Why? Because I was for one Preparing for a fight I was probably like five weeks out

So I needed the proper nutrition protein And Not fried food Kilda Kerala's the best This guy I would be down Down to go back after the fight.

Okay, so let's go Sunday, night in Vegas. I'm not going to go on Vegas. What you just said? You need down to go back. In Colorado. No, no, Vegas. We'll go back. No, I'm not going to.

Guys, I'll meet you after I eat. I'm here with the highlight, Justin Gachie, who takes on Rafael Fiziv this weekend. Dude, another rematch. Yeah. I mean, fighting for Zeev. Special circumstances. I mean, just kind of led here. Yeah.

But Dan Hooker, this was a fight that everybody thought would prove to be as vital. as anything would happen. Whenever you heard that hooker was out, how disappointed were you in? What was the confidence that you would get somebody to step in and fight you? I mean, everybody said they wanted it. Yeah.

Boy, Conno said he wanted in. Paziv said he wanted it. Yeah. Gamrod. I mean, Gamrod said he wanted... Sorokian lying, though. Let me ask you guys. He wanted it at 170. He said 160, but he wanted that 170.

Who did? Sarukin. Syruki. Yeah. So you had four dudes say, I'm in. Justin, let me ask you a question. I remember when it happened to me When people started calling me out

When before they would never call me out You're the champ? No, no, no, no, no. But no. Wouldn't that happen? Yes, yes. Anybody has to take it. But no, you, people wouldn't call out Justin Gachie.

People wouldn't say I want in. Do you think that all comes from the last result Where people are like, he's not as dangerous as he used to be? Yeah. I think I can get him now. Yeah, I mean. Were you surprised that they all want to fight you? They didn't want to fight you?

me because they all eventually said no. Really? Well, they didn't say no. They said they're too heavy. That's no. Yeah, it is. Moikano, I don't know what the hell he was doing. He said he was the first guy to raise his hand.

Yeah, I guess he didn't think they would call his number. I don't know why he thought that. They called his number. They called him. He said no. As far as I know, I guess I never know actually what happens. But you're just thinking from face value. It's all I got.

But the one that stepped up is Fiziv. Yeah. Coming off of an injury. Dangerous fight. Dangerous fight. Very dangerous. And it doesn't feel like there's much to gain in this for you because you beat them before. Yeah, I mean, in this sport, winning, you know, gets you more opportunities than coming off a loss.

I'm coming off a loss right now, so ultimately getting back in the win column is very important. And, you know, they're all top of their game, world-class athletes. So, in the way I make it look, you know, they should have to consider me. If one big victory, especially over a guy like this. One, possibly two. If I have to fight a number one contender fight after this, then so be it. Ultimately, I don't even take part in those decisions. I have a manager.

I have a coach. Say when they called me and said, Dan Hooker was out, I said, let me know if I'm fighting or not. I'm going to stay in the mindset that I'm fighting. How do you do that? Like, how do you not allow for things when things change to bother you at all? Because you're that guy, right? Like, even when we're doing things outside of fighting, you don't let shit bother you all that much.

Like how, where do you think you develop that? Where you're just like, ah, it is what it is. I'm just to move forward. Um, I just think, you know, you can waste energy on things, and there's certain things that you should never waste energy on it. And if you can't control it, then there's no use in wasting energy. Like, it bothers me when you cheat in golf because it affects me. I don't cheat.

I don't cheat in golf. You're on playing Shadow Creek tomorrow. You're going to cheat the course. No, I won't. Have you played it? Yeah. Is it wonderful? It is great.

I played Patrick Mahomes Golf Tournament. We played two days in a row. Yeah, you just don't like when I actually meet you because I meet you. That's what handicaps are for. The bad thing is he doesn't even cheat well. He, the most egregious act. That's not true.

Actually, you did it twice. So one that I do that's kind of cheating. I'm not going to lie. He doesn't want a whole nine and a whole 18. When I mark my ball. No, no, no. When I mark my ball sometimes. When he's in the sand up against the ledge,

and then you see him and then you look away, turn back. He's four feet away from the leg. That's not true. that's not true. He's dumb enough to not have picked the ball up and placed it. He rolled it in the sand so there was a line in the set. It's true. And then I hit a beautiful shout out of the sand.

I had a beautiful shout out of the sand. I had a beautiful shot out of the ball. That was a beautiful shot out of the sand. But yes, I'm playing Shadow Creek tomorrow. But you're fighting for Zeev, right? You've gotten good at golf, right? How important was it after losing that fight to take the time that you took to not fight? Because I remember when I got knocked out, I got a call to fight pretty quick.

And I was like, I need six to seven months because I have to protect this. I got how important was that for you? It's about being confident in your ability to take the shots, see the shots. And, you know, there's no way you can be confident if you're coming off of a knockout like that and jumping back in there too quick. I think the human body is resilient. We'll see how resilient it is, you know, in the long run. But this weekend, I'm ready.

Do you change anything in your approach going into this? this fight? Being that for the first time, you feel normal? Like, after that knockout, I felt human. I was like, oh my God, it could happen to me. When before, I would just walk through any type of shots, as did you. Like, do you fight a little bit different? I guess that's an answer. I cannot know the, a question I cannot know the answer to until Saturday night comes and goes. You once told me. But being the competitors that we have been, you've been beating wrestling when you should have never been beat. And you didn't bitch out the next time. Like, it's balls to the wall and we're here to compete.

You have told me once, and I thought it was the best answer, I said, what do you feel when you go out there? And he said absolutely nothing. Nothing. Right? Like absolutely nothing. Do you anticipate now knowing the other side? Because we've all lost, right?

We've been hurt. Yeah. Do you think that you will still feel nothing when you hit the curtain on Saturday? Yeah. Yeah, I believe so. That's your hope. No, I know that. I know for a fact that will be the case.

You know, the worry The worry comes before, you know, now. But ultimately, I think being reminded of how dangerous this is, you know, you kind of, that never happens to you forget that that's a possibility. I think being reminded puts you into a more primal state when the fight actually comes,

and I think that's what it's going to do for me. You know, it's going to be back to the first couple of fights in your career where you have no idea what to expect. Yes. And then with age comes wisdom and you think you've known it all or know it all, and that's never the case.

This sport is so crazy, less than it's just less than, seconds and you know I'm excited to be scared again because even in that fight even a fight with max you were this close a number of times that's that's the game that we play you know so i have to believe in my my ability to obviously you know be accurate with my shots um cause him to you know use my faints to set up those big shots and you know be a fight a defensively smart fight you were telling us that today it was important you'd watch that fight for the first time uh But why this week to watch it for the first time?

I mean, I don't know. I was just sitting on the couch this morning. I was like, I'm going to watch it. It was really not a lot of thought that went behind it. Really? Yeah, I was like, I want to see how I performed. And you thought you fought better than you. Yeah, I think I performed well.

I think it's a crazy game. And that's why I took the most of him. And I think you fought perfect. Yeah. And he's a very hard matchup for me if you're not moving forward. Yeah. Okay. So Raphael Pazee, right?

You guys fought the first time in London. in my opinion or in my recollection of the fight I thought he was ahead of you in the first wrong he's a little too fast or at least it seemed like that it's because you're caught up in the flashingness I'm caught up in a flashiness He also said he landed some means

which they didn't hit He did land some means They didn't hit my face Are you talking about the commentary Yes So do you think I'm good at commentary Yes I think you're human And it's impossible

To know exactly what's happening in that So when he's landing When he's landing the knees, you're getting your elbow up and blocking him. Yes. Okay. But I thought they landed. Yes. So I was giving him a little more credit on no shots.

If the judges were listening to you, I certainly lost the first round. Well, because you did lose the first round. I didn't. On two out of three judges' scorecards, you lost the first round, Justin. So it's like, think about this, right? You're telling me I'm wrong, but I, three of the four people felt the same way. Yeah, I mean, he's fucking fast. He's fast.

He's fast. He's, you know, lashy? Did you feel like early in the fight it was harder to track him because he was so fresh and he was so fast? Because as the fight wore on, it seemed like you started. I thought you won the second and third round pretty clearly. Yeah, I think it was kind of just the way that I approached the fight. I was like, I got to be careful. This fool's very fast.

I wasn't sure how fast he was until I got in there. But I think it is, you know, in my mind I was going to fight him two inches farther than I fought anybody else. And I'm going to control his feet the whole time. And that's something I have to do on Saturday. Yeah. And you took him down. Which is something as an NCAA All-American you have in your bag. Can we expect more that this weekend?

I could beg myself to wrestle and I don't think it would happen. Why? Why? It's not who I am. You don't like wrestling? I'm a competitor. If I'm winning on my feet, that shit's exhausting. It is very tired.

How long is a college wrestling match? Seven minutes. This is a 15-minute fight. But once you take them down, you were able to control for Zee on the ground. Yeah, it's the possibility. I'm not against it. Yeah. Let's put it there.

Yeah. You and I have sparred on a number of occasions. Like not hard, but we're in front of each other. In front of each other, you know, we're kicking on the golf course we're punching. In terms of the way his speed matches up to mine, because I see myself as a very fast guy. Like, what do you think? Like, am I helping you and train? Am I helping you and train in my sparring?

If I was born with 205 DC, maybe, but no, this is heavy weight DC. I'm slow? Slower. But I'm fast. I mean, you could definitely punch a regular person in the face. You don't think I can hit you? No. Justin, get the fucking out of here.

I think I can get to your chin and a heart of me. You just get to lay and pray. You think I would try to rest me to the ground? Yeah, you would have no choice. Dude, I would eat you a lot. I would slap you run a mile. You'd be dead-ass tired and then I'd whip your ass. March Madness is here.

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Today we spoke earlier and you said, I feel lucky to be getting this fight. How can you feel lucky to be getting this fight when all you've done in your UFC career up to this point? He said that was, like, like, to feel like that. He said, just, just, it's a second chance with a guy like Justin. First one, first time when I fight with him for me, he's like, wow, I fight with a guy like him, you know. Because when I'm just, before you see, I follow him, like I like his style, like I watch him a lot. Like I said, like all my people who are around me, my friends, yeah, we everybody love him, where everybody like his style and almost his fans.

All my friends, his fans, honestly. And I get it one time, first time, and now I get it again. Yeah. So that's why I say, like, I'm lucky, you know. When you're in there, right, and you have, like, seen a guy, and like you said, you held him in such high regard, at times it can be a little bit overwhelming. So when I fought Anderson Silva, I look across and I go, shit. And that I'm fighting Anderson Silver, right?

So it took me a little bit of time to snap out of that. Did you deal with that or were you able to just kind of fight him effectively from the very start? I think, I think a little bit, yeah, a little bit, yeah. I don't remember sure right now how it's, but maybe a little bit. Yeah. On the beginning, yeah, maybe a little bit on the beginning. When I remember, when I say him like, we touch the gloves. Yeah, yeah.

We touch the gloves. And he said, like, yes. And he said, oh, I fight him. Fighting Justin Gates, right? We touched the gloves and we have a fight. Start fighting. I remember, yeah. Yeah.

You know, it's amazing how fast time has passed since that first fight. The very beginning of the fight, you're fighting well. You're fighting really good at the very beginning of the fight. As the fight went on, he kind of started to use his experience to pull away from you. What are you going to do to make sure that that doesn't happen again? Yeah, like a... First fight I also have a plan like move a lot not going to forward not bon and bone you know and stay far from his jeb, stay far from the this what he like. The brawl.

The whole close distance, this one. Yeah, stay far from this. Use more distance. Use the timings. But this time I have to, I just have to follow this. Yeah. Because before on the first fight I don't I don't follow that. Yeah.

Like zero. You know, at 155, right? There's a lot of guys that have been there for a long time. So it's Dustin Poirier, Michael Chandler, Justin Gachie, now Islam, and Sarukian has worked his way into that, and so did you. Were you surprised the first time you got to fight Gachin? Because those guys have been unwilling to let the new guys in, right? There's this great group of new guys.

It was you, Sarukian, Gamble. But you guys always stayed like six, seven, eight because you couldn't get those guys to fight you. Were you surprised that he fought you the first time? And are you surprised that he's fighting you the second time? Yes, very surprised. The first time, I'm very surprised the second time. Like these guys who you talk about, this is everybody stars, like stars. They're all stars.

And they want to fight just each other? Yeah. Yeah, but. The division has to move forward. The division has to move and have to mix it. You know, like I fight Gage Benwa Sandini fought Dusted

But you guys started that Before nobody could break in And then when Justin fought you Everybody else kind of started To mix the younger guys in And I don't believe for that first time And right now it's same For me like wow

I fighting him again It's just second chance And like well let's go But before it might have been a little bit of a Like I'm in all But now it's more like I got to beat this guy Right

You got to feel like now this is an opportunity where you lost to Justin and then you got injured in the fight against the... Who do you fight? Gamrod? You got injured against Gamrod and the fight behind. So now you've dropped two in a row. This one has to feel like an opportunity that you have to win, right?

Because if one went over Justin Geichi, puts you right back in line where you want to be. Yeah. I'm feeling... Oh, what you're saying? You have, like, you have, like, you have, it's, like, it's a pressure station. Yeah, yeah. for me is the same like yes I like wow I fight Justin Gage and like I have to win

like a like a first fight also like oh wow I fight the Justin Gage and like I have to win him because like yeah after after after after the win what has happened to me like close to the belt yeah can't fight with other star and like many many ways to open So it's it's both. It's both. I'm happy to fight him again, like miracle. And I understand, like, I need to win. I need that so much right now.

Do you feel a little more pressure to get a victory this time or no? Honestly, yeah. Yeah, of course, a little bit. It's just too lost. Too lost. And I don't, I not win like two more years. I know I don't feel this taste. Like my hand is.

Raise. Yes. So right now it's very important to me. I can't say this pressure to me. I think this is more motivate me. Yeah. Motivate me and make it smart. So you do your training camp in Thailand.

You like it there, huh? I like. You came in here with a jacket on like you're freezing. Like, what is happening out? Look outside. The rain, they'll rain, but this rain feel like snow, you know, for me. Is it hot in Thailand? Very hot, yeah.

Yeah, it's a 30, 35 plus 30, 35 degrees Celsius. Yeah. I don't know how much in Americans, but... Maybe like 90 degrees? Yeah. So, how long have you... Has you always trained in Thailand? Has it always been at that place?

Yeah, since 15. Wow. 2015, I'm not there. Wow. I'm just... I do my camp sometime when I have time before five. I do in my camp in Kilcliffe, Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're hoof. Yeah, but this time, yeah. No head time. So Saturday we walk into the arena, right? The feeling of being in there after be, it's already been almost two years, like you said. The feeling of being in there when you've been so close, because I heard that you've been offered multiple fights

over the course of this time. You were ready to fight since August. What do you anticipate it's going to feel like when you first walk into the arena, and it's almost time to get going? Because that's a feeling. that most can't truly understand. You know that feeling.

I do, but what about you? When I start, when I start walk, when I hear my walk music, like, I forget about everything. I start to enjoy. Really, really, I love that, and I start to enjoy 100%. I forget about everything. I know I have a guy who I have to fight, and I don't think about anything.

I'm going, and I know people watching me, people wait how I go into how I how I fight right now people waited people wanted and and I'm sure I believe like I can't show them like what they want yeah I'm really enjoying on this time Justin took you down last time that's not something he does very often inside the octagon you think he's going to try to wrestle a little more frequently this fight or do you anticipate he's going to stand again because I believe he took you down because you're being so successful which is striking I think he did it because he understand this fight going to the end to judges,

and he need to make some points for the win. Yeah. So maybe if this fight going the same to the judges, maybe he tried again. Maybe I try, who know? Have you been working on it? Have you been working on it take down the fence? You're not a guy that gets taken down very easily, but he was able to secure a couple. Charles Gelskidl?

Has he been working on it? Who's he been working with? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Working about it. Always. Always wrestle, like, how many days a week? Always train my wrestling.

But, yeah, he catch me on good time. Just timing, right? I remember, yeah, I going like, because I remember that. Close fight, you start going hard. One, two, three, and he go down. Level change. Level change, and yeah, he get it. Yeah, this is an amazing fight.

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This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Winning on Clay is an art.

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And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor?

It signals to the world that you're not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to. Listen and learn the hard way on the IHard radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed human.