The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Charles Oliveira guarantees victory at UFC 289: "I'm next for the title!"

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

Charles Oliveira checks in with DC ahead of his massive fight against Beneil Dariush at UFC 289 in Vancouver! "Do Bronx" reveals what he was going through in his main event loss to Islam Makhachev at ...UFC 280, and how that defeat has forced him to re-focus for another shot at the title. Charles and Daniel talk about his career, his home, and run down the list of each of his biggest wins. Plus, why for Oliveira this fight is "the beginning of his story in the UFC." #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:29 Listen and learn the hard way on the AHA radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. The volume. All right, guys, today's brought to you by the Game Time app. Let's get to that before we get to Charles Dubrox-Oloberra. The Game Time app is the world leader and last-minute ticket purchases, whether it be basketball, football, UFC concerts, or comedy shows. not matter. The Game Time app has got you. All you got to do, download the Game Time app. Use the promo code DCTV. We will give you $20 off of your very first purchase. So it don't matter
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Starting point is 00:02:47 So many people said it. So, you know, that's interesting, when a guy got a recognition of this, when a person goes to pick, and valleys in a career, and, of a sudden, give that ingrenada and there a lot of victory consecutive the first thing is what? The first thing is what?
Starting point is 00:03:05 He's doing something, he's talking about something. So, poe, how legal is receiving this recognition that year in the past because the person enchews, and I think there
Starting point is 00:03:14 other thing. With certain, it's very important. It's part of what we're talking, of the legado, and all we're going to do that's very important for me to receive. This is in this moment
Starting point is 00:03:23 now, it was very important to me to see, to me, to show, I mean a synony every time, Now he said, eight years, working in book of the son, what happened?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Of course, it's so important, that we always talk about the fact that we want to leave a legacy. So this is proof that you wanted, that the work that we put in, and as it was mentioned, when the hat, the jacket was handed to me, eight, nine years doing this.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah. And always clean and always doing this. So it's the legacy we want to believe in the impossible, right? Like what he did was kind of impossible. Go from being up and down to becoming the championship. The people don't want to believe
Starting point is 00:03:55 in the impossible. of high, and you've been transformed in a person that you transformed. The people don't care believe. This is real. The people, in reality, they don't want to work
Starting point is 00:04:04 to be able to do it. So, they simply think of the way. They want to judge. They want to put you about to some. I think of you're back to see that it would be able. For real, people,
Starting point is 00:04:16 people, they don't want to work. Yeah. They don't want to put in the work. They don't want to, they want to judge. They want to judge you. And that's why they're, they don't want to, they don't understand. They want to put you down.
Starting point is 00:04:30 They want to put you down to dumps. And I put the work in and I got where I got to it. So I saw this dude's house. Where in the fuck is that in Brazil? Like, seriously. Like, where does this guy live in Brazil? Like, somebody got to tell me where this dude lives in Brazil? I see your house.
Starting point is 00:04:46 No way. The question, where is, where is your house? I never saw a house of this. Where is you more? where the house that I've seen in the social. I'm not in Guarajas,
Starting point is 00:05:00 now I'm in a condominio, in Acapulco, God my best was, I'm going to have this house that you're old, what you're talking. It was a realization of a dream, to be able to get to get to something that I never thought in my life, I'd want to get to
Starting point is 00:05:12 get. You're in Guarajah, actually, Brazil Beach area in the state of San Paulo, it's actually in a gated community, in a Kando, called A Capo. It's a place I've always wanted to,
Starting point is 00:05:25 Something I've always wanted. God has blessed me. It's a place that I've always wanted to be in my life, in the moment in my life. I've worked for it, and I'm very happy. You know, Charles O'Levara is like he personifies that Brazilian fighting spirit. And even now as not the champion, when we were in Brazil in January, he did an appearance. So many people. What does that mean to him to not only represent the country in a way that he does,
Starting point is 00:05:52 But to get that love back from the people because it looked insane watching him walk through that mall or at least trying to walk through that mall. This was like when the dream team went to playing the Olympic Games. This wasn't normal for a mixed martial arts fighter. Well, you're much of people, but the people also consider you as well as representation of the spirit of the but the you're a lot of the other people, but even not being a champion, we're, we see a second, in 2008, three, in the New Jersey, you know, you're in a shopping? You're going to do a showpene, it's. You go to make a part of the shopping, and we saw the scenes of the people, not just, the people, they're just, you're, the spirit of the but also this love of the
Starting point is 00:06:45 people, you think, this recognition that the people have and for all the everything you've really,
Starting point is 00:06:51 really, happy with what been going going to be not just in Brazil, in Australia, we were
Starting point is 00:06:55 going to the same thing, in Abu Dhab, we were going to the United we were,
Starting point is 00:07:00 we're going to happen, the United and it's not just the classer not the Chalels is
Starting point is 00:07:05 a world, it's all the places that we have to have to have a good to
Starting point is 00:07:11 we maintain our feet on the ground, to know where we're out of where we're out of where we got to get to get to get to get, but I'm very happy. So much gratitude and so happy. And you know, this, obviously because of this happening, but it's not just in Brazil. We went to Australia, the same thing happened.
Starting point is 00:07:25 We went to the United States. We go to Tammals. It happens as well. So, you know, Charles is not just a Brazilian fighter now. It's a global fighter than everyone. We always have to be very focused. Not that like getting into our heads. But I'm so happy that this happens everywhere we go.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Let's go back to Abu Dhabi, right? The fight with Makachev. He started off in the first round. He takes you down and it was a competitive first round on the ground. He took no damage. Where do you think it kind of turned for you? And what have you done to improve to make sure that you don't make the mistakes that you made in that fight this weekend against Binald-Darouchev.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Let's go back to what happened. It's just when you, when you, when you, it was a lot competitive. The things not were like they were until the final of the fight. The things were like they were in paris. Then, then, you're going to be able to do. How do you do? How do you do not happen to be in the war? I think you're to put it in time.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Look, it's not a moment, are moments. There in Abu Dhab, I don't was there. Not I was. And today is a new Chars. Chares with sixes of victory, Moshares who has a dream to star a champion, with a once a chance, that's a point to do with a story.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Every fight is a different fight. That fight was not me because I wasn't there. This is a different fight. This is a fight, a patrol that's ready, that's hungry, patrols that's eager, and they want to make things happen to be a champion again. Why was he not there?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Right, in those big moments, right? As a guy that was a champion, and that fought at the highest level, you gotta be there in those moments. Like, why was he not there in that fight? Why did you not there in that fight? Why that you don't have there? A man who's just many,
Starting point is 00:09:21 grandiose, enormous, for you, was champion. You have to be there, in that moment. Why you not were there? What happened? I don't say to say, I don't say to say. You've never accompanied many times. You've seen various, you've seen various.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I'm not there. I'm not there. I don't know, I just, I just, I've I stayed three months to think, why I don't was there. I don't know what is done, I don't know what happened. You've seen so many in my fights,
Starting point is 00:09:50 you've seen my career, I wasn't there. I stopped for three months, step back, and tried to understand why I was not there. I was not there. I have no reason. He must all the respect of the world. He is a great, a great champion. But I don't know, I don't have there.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I don't have there. He deserves all the respect in the world. It's a great fighter, a great champion. Yeah. But I was not there. I was not there. I didn't fight. I was never, was he ever able to find the answer in that time where he's so searching to figure it out?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Did he find that answer to try to ensure that, you know, when we end that this weekend, you don't start to feel the same things? And in this period that you've got to be able to be able to ask us. You've got to find the process. You've got to understand why, justly to not. Why do you feel this? Simply I'm not just, what's what's what, we've got to go, we're thinking in front, I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:10:43 now, this is, this is just, let's go to the next, some, there's a music in Brazil that's the next, because the next, then I'm at this time,
Starting point is 00:10:52 go to the next, the next, and now, Sabe, Benderioz. There's no point of looking back right now. Yeah, there's no, this is, it's gone, what passed is past, like you say in Brazil,
Starting point is 00:11:03 um, we don't, we can't, We can't be worried about what happened because we have to look into what's next. There's a song in Brazil that says, you know, let's go to the next one because after the next one, the next one is the one for the next one. Yeah, it never, you'll linger. It just keeps on it. So you need to worry about the next challenge they have.
Starting point is 00:11:20 So you got Benil Darius in fronty. He says today I saw him state that he feels he does everything better than Mokachev. What do you see in Benil Daryush? Benile Uyush, to go ahead. Today, he said in an interview that he thinks he does everything than the Islam-Makashav. What do you think,
Starting point is 00:11:39 the United States? I think he is a great not a great supporter, he deserves his respect of him, but I don't I'm not I'm not too what he will play. Auxarles aggressive,
Starting point is 00:11:47 a charles, ready to wincer, a chair that will set with the arm up with a arm. We can say, what we want to say
Starting point is 00:11:55 in a sense that I respect him a lot again, I hope respect the role for him. But I'm sincerely, It doesn't matter what he thinks we want to tell you what matters is Charles The Charles that what's gonna not what he's gonna bring to the tip of what I'm gonna take to him Aggressive hungry yes and someone that's gonna come out with his hand raised after and that's the style that makes you so fun
Starting point is 00:12:17 Right no matter what happens you continue to march guys down do you still fight him in that same way do you pressure him because he's a guy that has been willing to trade in those exchanges and as time has shown what's really Some really high level strikers, Dustin Porreier, Michael Chandler, Justin Gaiti. When they fight you in that way, they don't tend to hold up very well because of your pressure and your power. And this is your style of the aggressive, is that you're going to be that's going to be that's a lot of that we're so DirtyEgoathe. He said that not have to be the way to go to the way,
Starting point is 00:12:52 it's the way to be to go. Now, all the guys with you have loved who go to, go to go to try and attack you going to back, he said, Dustin Boyd, Justin Gage, Michael Scheller, not did much certain to them. How how it works with Daniel? Daniel, a guy who goes to go to go ahead. He starts to go and grow up, so it's a great
Starting point is 00:13:12 lot, so there's going to go to front. I'm going to be going to this. I'm going to this spirit, you know, and send him to do it to do. I'm a good for this. He's a guy that likes to press forward. He likes to start up hot. And then I'm a guy who likes to warm up
Starting point is 00:13:25 and get to my fight, listen, it's two trucks just going at each other. So I'm ready. This flame has rekindled and I think is back at it. I'm ready for it. I was going to ask him that. Like I saw something he said he's ready to get his belt back. Before a guy that has done what Charles O'Levara has done, it really is astounding. I took a picture of this.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I want you to read this to him as I say him. But Charles O'Levara is now, and I don't know, let me make sure this microphone still working. Charles Oliver is 12 and 2 since he returned the lightweight. Charles Oliver has 19 stoppages. That's the most in the company's history. Tell him that. Let's let them that. Let's talk about what I'd like to read for you.
Starting point is 00:14:06 What's here? You're 12 and 2, 2nd from the division, 12 victories and 2nd. You've had 19 or 19? 19. Most in the company's history. In the history, most stopages,
Starting point is 00:14:19 that are that, obviously. You've made the lot, to stop, not even to end, more than anybody in the story of the organization. More submissions than anybody with 16. More finalization than what, you know, in the story, 16. Most submissions in Lightway history.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Most submissions in Featherway history. In the division, he also, penit, too. Dude, 21 victories, fifth most in the U.S. history. Second most wins in Lightway history. Like, this guy has done just about everything. What is the thing that motivates him to continue to perform at this level and get up in the morning when in reality he's sleeping
Starting point is 00:14:56 on some pretty comfortable sheets right now right he's living the life what gets a guy like this up every day to come out here and fight the most dangerous men in the world is it just that championship and but the conversation? The conversation said, so I'm just saying, I'm going to be in a few to pick this syndrome of the new, so let's go back. It's 5th with more victories in the 2nd in the division, the guy who's There was everything that you You've got,
Starting point is 00:15:23 and thenquist, after all of this, you know, the lansol that you're that's not doing the best of the most of the you're doing
Starting point is 00:15:32 you're doing so what you can't get this camera a ambulance that you have every day, for you have to what you
Starting point is 00:15:40 does it do you do you know, what you just you just got it's got into other pistols in the real time
Starting point is 00:15:46 this is just the story in my life there's many things to happen you know I'm focused I'm going to do it, I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:15:53 I have to have to be I'm going to be able to do with it again I'm going to be able to see see now all and all it's focus yeah focus focus, focus I want this to happen
Starting point is 00:16:03 I'm prepared, I'm ready it's focus I want to I want this is just the beginning of my story in the UFC I just want more and I'm very ready for he has reset the career before right he has done it before
Starting point is 00:16:17 I am certain he could do it again how does he see the fight playing out this one You're again, re-enician, you know, if you just, we've seen this before, we've just to just put a reset in your career, that you simply just started. Or so what happened this time? I'm going to wineryush.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I don't know how, but I'll be the arm's going to be up and this other decision. And then, and I'm going to be the next the final of the field, the new for the title. I don't know how it's going to happen. It's not going to go to the decision.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I'm going to finish this fight, then I come out with my arm raised, and afterwards, I'm going to be in the other line, I'm next to the title. Yeah, what about the BMF title? You should be a BMEA? What do you think about this like that? If he wins, some people are saying that he might need another one,
Starting point is 00:17:02 that those guys may get the title fight, like, what does he think about that? Yeah, because there's people who are Borgiana that if you win, you, you still, you have to get to get of someone to do with, what do you think? Look, I think, I'm here to fight, to do this title, this title, that's going to fight for Ditchfory against against, It's a great, a great title, a great a great lot.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Who knows, the the winner can fight with me for this title too, are something I want to do something. I want to make a
Starting point is 00:17:29 legado. But my focus completely is the title. The champion is the Marra Sheva, this guy who's with the centurion, so I want.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Who knows, right? Listen, it, they can fight for it, maybe, if they fight for it, I can fight for that title. Why not? Down the line to try for the BMF.
Starting point is 00:17:49 It's going to be two great fighters But on the next one We know the name of the champion right now Is his a Monarcheriff and I want that title Yeah, you remember for a while The champion is Charles Olavera Yeah, like my favorite line in the history of the sport Charles, thank you for checking in man
Starting point is 00:18:04 I appreciate you as always Guys make sure you watch Charles O'Levara The Co-Mate event of UFC 289 This weekend live from Vancouver, Canada As this man tries to work his way back to a UFC championship opportunity Like, subscribe and make sure you tell you friend Tell a friend that DC's got a YouTube channel.
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