The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Conor McGregor GOES OFF ON Donald Trump: Daniel Cormier & Ben Askren REACT

Episode Date: August 10, 2024

Daniel Cormier and Ben Askren are BACK with another brand new episode of Funky and the Champ! DC and Ben GO IN ON McGregor's Twitter attack on Donald Trump after Trump declared Khabib Nurmagomedov his... favorite fighter. Plus, Cormier and Askren get into why Jon Jones continues to avoid Tom Aspinall. Also, DC shares some hilarious memories of riding motorcycles with Cain Velasquez. And don't miss why DC reveal the reason why he is NOT A FAN of the UFC future rule changes. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:10 Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See dkng.com slash B-Ball for eligibility and deposit restrictions, terms and responsible gaming resources. Chad, he can't guard me, chat. Chat, look at this, Chad. Hey, Ben, this is me on my video game because I saw the kids do it. So what the kids do is they're playing their video games, but while they're beating you in NCAA football, which is the new game out that hasn't been out since 2014,
Starting point is 00:04:43 they're telling the chat that you can't play them. So you're playing like a 12-year-old that's streaming you getting beat, and the whole time they're talking to the people in their chat. What, did they know what you? They don't know with me. I kind of try to keep myself quiet in that regard. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tweet.
Starting point is 00:05:02 like your handle. I don't even know what you have on a game with a handle or something. I don't want people knowing that it's me because they're like, chat, this dude can't guard me. And then the reality hits me that I really can't guard them. I'm like very, very bad at the game. It's so bad. Oh my gosh. And I know that really frustrates you a lot. Oh, my God. It frustrates me so bad. It frustrates me so bad. Because I know they're young. I know it's like a child beating on me. But Ben, back to what I was saying, Louise, get off, Luis. you got to get off. Hey, all this stays in the show, all this days in the show,
Starting point is 00:05:36 this is me and Ben creating something for you guys. And sometimes it gets a little crazy because Luis wants to be in the show at times. But anyhow, Ben, I'm getting my ass kicked in college football and kids are bullying me in the chat. So now I've kind of picked up on it. I hear it so much that I start saying it in my everyday life. It's crazy. So that's where you need to play like someone older like a Chris Peloton who's not as good at video games. Oh my God. Oh my God. you know what's crazy. Chris Pendleton is here right now,
Starting point is 00:06:06 and he told me, he goes, tell Ben Ascreen, good morning. And he goes, I said, okay, he said, I want you to tell him, good morning to the best high school coach in the entire country. I go, well, that's a damn insult. He goes, why?
Starting point is 00:06:18 I go, because Ben's the best coach in the entire country. You know what I'm saying, Ben? He's what I'm saying? I appreciate you flatter me. Is Chris any good at video games or no? Dude, he thinks he's good. He's a college coach.
Starting point is 00:06:30 They don't have time anymore. So, like, on him. Oh my God. It's so fun, too. He gets so frustrated. I love me. I love beating people that aren't very good. And I can tell these kids love beating on me because I'm not very good. All right, Ben, we got work to
Starting point is 00:06:46 guys. Welcome to a brand new episode of Fulke and the champ. I'm Daniel Cormier. That's been Ascreen. Funky Ben, what's been going on? Man, hey, your summer of doom seems to be coming to an end while mine is still rolling. Your boy is tired, Ben. I'm tired. man you got to scum i i am going to take notes and schedule better next summer because i was traveling too much worked a little too much but my net my next handful of weeks are pretty easy so i'm just out there cutting stuff on the disc golf course having a good time and talking to you i saw you with your
Starting point is 00:07:17 shirt off the other day i was like yo you have a six-pack what did you get a big bag i stopped eating dessert i told you that that is the craziest thing that you look like that i don't think you look like that in college. This dude looked ripped. I was like, holy smokes. Look at Ben Asker. Luis, you will now take a picture of Ben in his practice room the other day and put it as a billboard.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I love it when the college kids come back. Well, the college kids plus older kids come back and work out. It's great. Yeah, it's absolutely crazy. All right, Ben. Well, we got to get to the show. But Michael Chandler and Connor McGregor are going at this again. Not this again. Listen, listen, I
Starting point is 00:07:58 I know. I know when you're tired of it. But listen, you can be tired of it, and I'm tired of it, too. But then when we get the call and they say, well, what about this? And I go, well, we're done. We've done this. But then they start to add the layers, right? Now you got Sturgis involved. What do you have Sturgis? Why is Connor McGregor at Sturgis? For the love of God. What? Now you got Sturgis involved. Now you got Donald Trump getting attacked. Now you got him deciding to fight Max Holloway. Dude, this never-ending saga, it never stops. It is like the show that you watch on TV that just keeps giving and giving.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Oh, my God. It won't stop. It really won't stop. I'm going to give Chandler a new idea. I'm going to give him a new idea because he has been so good. The UFC would totally do this. Chandler should say, just give me someone who sucks. Like, not a good guy.
Starting point is 00:08:54 maybe not even UFC guy. Go find me someone else to work. And just he just started, boom, knocking dudes out. Like Mike Tyson back in the day, just give him a bum, let him knock the bum out. He calls out Conner McGregor. Next month, give him another bum. Boom, another knockout.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Calls out Connor McGregor. And he just gets to keep staying active beating up bombs while he wins from McGregor because we don't know how long this is going to last. Dude, like, but so my thing is this, right? I'm watching this whole saga unfold, and I watch Michael Chandler do something that I am so, happy that he finally did. He goes, what? You know what, guys? You're right. I should have did this a while ago. He has done. I'm not worried about him anymore. I'm moving on. He should have done
Starting point is 00:09:36 this a long time ago. And he did it in a clever way saying he's in the first stage of seven in terms of grief with his career being over. That was pretty good. Look, Michael Chandler was pretty cool when he said that. I liked it. Anyhow, he just said I'm moving on. I'm done. I like that. I actually liked it. I like it too. Can I ask you, though, since he's your buddy, why does Connor, I mean, I know, I know he got beat up. Conner's my buddy.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Let it go. No, no, no, no. Kabim, why does he hate Kobe? Okay. So much. I mean, Donald Trump just goes off the cup and says Kabeep's his favorite fighter, which is hilarious. There's no, I did, if you said, does Donald Trump know who Khabib is? I was like, eh, probably not, maybe, but probably not.
Starting point is 00:10:22 But then when you find out that Khab is Donald Trump's favorite fighter, ever were you surprised yes that definitely surprised me because i didn't expect well because Trump is a boxing guy doesn't really understand the grappling stuff you know Khabib was very grappling heavy I figured it would be honestly like
Starting point is 00:10:38 a Connor McGregor a show showy flashman that has some fancy knockouts where you know there's maybe Trump does but maybe he sits down and watches all these years he's Connor off it set him off what I mean I don't know that's why it could be so
Starting point is 00:10:54 much like I know you got your ass beat Connor but let it go and so like I mean for God's sakes like there's only so much you can hate someone like No he just despises him despises hate you know what's crazy do you think so He's that Trump was going to lose the election because of it
Starting point is 00:11:12 He said that. Yes I love the tweet of Louise Well yes he did I'm going to find the tweet He did not see Absolutely he said something like the election is going to be very close and now this is going to lose him the election. I'm going to go find it for you.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You're so crazy. Don't. Let's just happen, bro. Oh, no, he did that thing where he got hammered. He must have been he must have, but he deleted all of them. I can't find any of them. Okay, so let me ask you this. Do you think it would serve?
Starting point is 00:11:43 I believe that if Khabib said, I'm fighting today, Connor would go, I'd fight him. There would be no holdback of him fighting Khabi again. because of that disdain form, that dislike form. Why can't he develop that for Michael, the guy that he's supposed to fight? I have no idea. I'm so disappointed.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I wanted to read this tweet to you, and Connor deleted him. I'm really heartbreaking for him right now. You're lying, Ben. Hold on. Hold on. I think we've got it. We just said, hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:15 There's no deleting tweets. There's no deleting tweets. Okay, hold on. I'm almost there. Let's see, this is one of them. I was actually wrong. A couple hundred million. He is not, he is worth.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So I was talking about Donald Trump's worth, not multi-B. I would have thought USA only would be the mentality here and what I would want to see out of my president personally to pick a retired inbred fighter from decades in Russia who has three and main events only to his name is astounding over all the American fighters that have backed him. It's a shocking decision. He was caught on the spot.
Starting point is 00:12:49 That won't go unnoticed on the roster. This presidential race. It is very tight right now. More so now. Are you kidding me? Come on, man. That's so hilarious. I mean, I don't even know how to respond to that.
Starting point is 00:13:05 That's a little bit. That would seem to be reaching. Connor is so petty. Connor's so petty. He might fly to America that day and vote the other way, just because he's petty. And they're going to allow that. They're not checking IDs. They're like, wait, aren't you, Connor McGregor, aren't you Irish?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Like, no. He just looks like. Like, man, there's going to let a vote. He's going to vote for Kamala. He's going to vote for Kamala. Check. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:13:34 You're so stupid. You don't believe that. You don't believe that. So, hey, Ben, so maybe we've been missing it. Maybe all Mike has to do is Mike, Mike actually knows Donald Trump, I think. I think he's met him. I think I've seen him meeting Trump. Maybe he should have did something like that.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I think you're right. I don't know what he has to do to get this guy to fight him, but how in the world are we still talking about this? There's still no date. I got another one for you. You ready for another tweet? No, bro, please stop. Come on.
Starting point is 00:14:03 It just sounds like you're picking on the camera. Campaign, this is his tweet. He deleted them, okay? Campaign ending decision, period. No, no. Mountain Monkey from the inbred Mountains of Dagestan is your favorite UFC in an American company in presidency fighter. Wow, abysmal.
Starting point is 00:14:21 He hate, but he just hates. Kabebeep. He hates him. So bad. So bad. Hey, last weekend, hey, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Last weekend, Kabeb, Tony Ferguson retired. You remember how bad it was between Kabeb and Tony Ferguson? Oh, yeah. But then afterwards, Kabeb said, I wish him the best in retirement. His life is just starting now and all this. Can we see this with Connor and Kubeb too at the end of Kovina? That's what healthy people do. Healthy people let it go. You just let it go, whatever happened. Do you think those guys will? Kube and Connor? Connor, no.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I mean, Khabibib. I don't know Kameeb. He's your buddy, so you tell me. Oh, no. They are not letting it go, bro. It's deep rooted, but it's deep rooted on both sides. He still hates him. He doesn't like this guy, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:05 They don't like each other. This is like, this is crazy. It's like, it really is, it's deep. It's very deep. But I think the closest thing you would get to resolution in that is, again, Connor beating Mike and then earning a championship fight against Islam, Macha, right? Then you, then,
Starting point is 00:15:23 Kabeb could probably try to find some comfort in that. And Connor could try to actually find redemption and trying to beat the guy that became the guy, right? So there's like stories there. I don't know that it happens because Michael Chandler can't seem to get a date. I just, but again, I know Ben and I go off on a tangent at times, guys, and we just talk.
Starting point is 00:15:43 We haven't talked to each other in a couple weeks. I've been traveling, but, uh, I just love that Mike is saying to hell with this, man. I'm done. I cannot keep living my career waiting for this guy. That doesn't seem to want to engage with me inside of an octagon. He doesn't want to do a sanctioned fight with him. But, man, Sturgis and, dude, what is he doing at a moat?
Starting point is 00:16:03 What is he doing at a place where the largest motorcycle rally? Honestly, that's kind of, I mean, he must have a security team because, like, showing up being that well known with, I mean, there's probably a lot of dudes that got shanks and, uh, and it's a, it's a, it's a, it's just seems like a party that gets a little bit out of control. and they look like they have some sketchy character. Let's just say some sketchy characters. Definitely some sketchy characters. Oh, that Sturge is riding motorcycles. So, yeah, kind of goes out there. Isn't, hey, there's not much more in the world than like,
Starting point is 00:16:33 that is more intimidating than like a group of guys on motorcycles. Why is that like, why have we been taught to be like so worried people? You know, Kane and I used to ride our motorcycles all the time. Do we go to, like, restaurants? I didn't know you rode a motorcycle. Dude, me and Kane would ride our motorcycles all. Someone put a picture up of Daniel riding a motorcycle. Bro, I was like all,
Starting point is 00:16:53 yo, I was all into it. Did you have leather? I had a vest. I did, I would not wear the jacket, but I would wear the vest. I would wear the vest. And I got a video of me actually learning on Kane's bike and I burned my leg against the damn pipe
Starting point is 00:17:08 because I had on shorts and not supposed to wear shorts. I didn't know. Oh, man. Anyhow, but bro, we would like pull up to like restaurants or random places we'd be riding. It'd be like a whole bunch of we ride motorcycles. Because we'd go to this place called Phil's Fish Market. And you kind of like, I just kind of, we're on motorcycles.
Starting point is 00:17:26 They're on motorcycles. My whole life I've been taught that there's motorcycle gangs. But then you're like kind of like walking up. Well, I think there actually are motorcycle gangs. There are. But the only place I saw was on TV. So on TV, it's all like bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:40 But then we walk up and they're always like, yo, D.C. and King Velasquez? Well, I. Motorcycle games. Motorcycle games. would be like, what? These cable house kids? I swear to God, it was like the coolest thing. Oh my God, that's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah, well, I would, uh, I would, if I saw Canada on a motorcycle, I would, I'd be a little nervous, you know, he looks intimidating. If I saw you, I thought you just, you know, old guy off or ride, want to give me a hug or something. Yeah. Where did this guy get a fucking motorcycle line? What's going on here? The problem is it kind of made my back hurt because it's sitting down kind of like, you know
Starting point is 00:18:16 what? I've never run a motorcycle. I had a third bike twice, crashed at both times. They are not for me. But the ones where Daniel, the ones where the arms are way up here, I feel like my shoulders would go to sleep in like 15 minutes. How do you do that? The one that I, my motorcycle is so big, it feels like I'm driving a car.
Starting point is 00:18:35 It doesn't even feel like dangerous. Yeah, it's awesome. All right, Ben. So, hey, two weeks ago, I know it's been a while, but oh, look at this. Look what I got. I needed a new pop socket. So this is my pop socket. I thought you were to tell me, but I think you're showing a motorcycle picture.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But anyway, oh, I do have motorcycle pictures. I'll send it to you. But anyhow, two weeks ago, Tom Aspinall won, called out John Jones. Then I thought he kind of missed the opportunity to like really hammer it home. It was kind of nice in his call out. But then he doubles down and goes back and goes, I'm not doing anything but a true UFC championship fight. John just continues to kind of ignore him. he should, right?
Starting point is 00:19:20 Tom Asperdon should stay infirm on, I want to be the champion. I'm not doing nothing else. Yeah, you know what? I almost feel like maybe John's got some dirt on Dana or something, because Dana generally would not put up with this type of behavior. He would say, and this is what the UFC's been founded on,
Starting point is 00:19:36 where boxing wasn't is, we want the best guys to fight. We want to see who the actual best guy is. We don't want to waste time with shenanigans. We don't want, you know, to pad records to go to 40. know we don't do that that's what boxing does in the ufc we put the best guys in there we see who wins and so the fact that john is being i don't know i don't know allowed is the right term um but that dana is playing along and letting him and stepe fight when a stepe is going to be
Starting point is 00:20:06 close to four years by the time they ever fight no no no no no no stepe will be 42 years old no i'm sorry four years since he's had a fight four years yes four years he'll be 42 years old And you have this young, young interim champion who he's a beast. I mean, he smashes people. And the fact they won't put them in there together. And then there's this obvious, I would say good, maybe not quite guarantee, but that John beats Steepay and then says, I'm done. So, you know, I'm gone.
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Starting point is 00:26:26 Welcome back Game Time. We love you guys. We've missed you. Hey Ben, you know what? So, you know, like, and I love the way you said that about Tom Aspen when you go, he's a beast. It was almost like reality came like, this dude is really good. He's good. I always thought he was, I thought he was good. But then I didn't think
Starting point is 00:26:46 he was like as good as he is because Michael Bisman was telling me he's the greatest thing in the world. I was like, Mike, come on. This is crazy. You're talking crazy. I was like, you can't be that strongly in one opinion because if it goes wrong, then you're screwed. But then it turns out he is that good. You know what?
Starting point is 00:27:02 No, Daniel told me the other day. I'm in England. And Dan goes, Dad, I go downstairs to eat. I try to eat really fast because I want to watch Tom Aspinall fight. He goes, by the time I got done, Curtis Blades is in the octagon on his knees crying. He was like, what did I miss? I said, dude, the entire fight, like, it literally takes him no time to meet the best heavy weights in the world. It's crazy watching how good he is.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yes. And that's one of those things where, you know, it's funny because he's a champion now, but you would say, I would like to see him have a tough fight that goes five rounds because I want to say he's finished. Let me look. Everybody. No, everybody. No one's went to the third round with him. What?
Starting point is 00:27:47 They haven't. No. They can't extend them. They can't extend them. They can't extend them into the longer rounds. Dude, I mean, it's crazy. Curtis Blades a minute. Pavlovich, a minute nine.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Tibura, a minute 13. He had the injury against Blades. Volkov, 345, Spivak, 230. Like, these guys, he's putting people away right away. Yeah. I mean, part of me says, I'd like to see him fight the full fight. Well, you want to. Got to make him fight the full fight, which they can't extend them.
Starting point is 00:28:14 You want them to fight long fights, but they, bro, the, and he's getting more confident. So he's approaching them like they don't really have a chance against him, which again, which is why I want to see him fight John. Yeah. But. So Dan should make this happen. That's why it's like why Dana almost always presses these issues with the best guys. It's pretty rare where he has it.
Starting point is 00:28:38 You know, like I say, Sean and Marab. Like he's making that happen. Now he let Sean fight Cheeto. That was one fight. But now that, you know, Sean and Maraub or fight. But has John ever gotten his fight or he just goes, I'll fight? this guy because that's who I want to fight. Otherwise, he generally just fights anybody.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Jones has never been a guy to pick his opponents. So maybe that's why he's getting that. And Stipe also, right? Stipe was a guy champion long reigning. If there are any two people in mixed martial arts that deserve the opportunity, Ben, to say, I want this one. I have to have this one.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It would be these guys, right? I mean, yeah, you make a compelling pace. I mean, Jones's early record is like, outstanding. Obviously, since then, he's fought here and there. Yeah, I guess he's probably said anyone. You look at his early resume versus later resume, you know, the Anthony Smith, Tiago Santos, Dom Reyes, you know, they're not legends like, you know, like he had earlier in his career,
Starting point is 00:29:39 you know, when he was going through, you know, Vitor, Rashad, Lioto, Quinton, Shogun, Huah. I mean, that was like a stretch where it was like, oh, my God. He's fighting everybody. He fought me, and he fought Gustafin. He fought everybody. It's like he fought everybody. And honestly, Ben, back then he was pretty active. Like he was, if he wasn't in trouble and having to sit out, he was fighting.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I mean, he fought Ovent. When I heard he fought Ovent St. Prue, who at the time was fighting at a really high level. Dominic Reyes, when he fought him, was fighting at a really high level. And so was Anthony Smith. Yeah. All those guys that had very little name record. recognition. We're fighting at a high level and he fought him. So maybe it is because of that, that inventory, right? All that work and all that stuff he's put in the bank, you can go,
Starting point is 00:30:32 I need this one. This is the one I need, especially knowing that this guy is tough. Yeah, the other one in here that, I mean, the other thing to throw in here that's really fascinating is data does seem to love John in the essence of that new rule. came out where you throw the 12 to 6 elbow, which you should have always been able to do stupid. I don't like that. Why? I don't like 12 to 6 elbow and I don't like soccer kicks. I do not want to see soccer kicks.
Starting point is 00:30:59 So I fought under soccer kick rules in Asia with one championship. Soccer gigs are stupid because pretty much the only time you can land them is when the fighter, it's pretty much already over, right? It's already done. It's already done. Now, knees to the ground head of a grounded opponent, that's actually useful in like, say, headlock or other positions where your arms are tied up and you can need them soccer kicks i i agree with you but why don't you like the 12 to 6 crowned elbow because i don't want so so here's here's my
Starting point is 00:31:26 thought right ben yeah because okay so there's a little bit of a difference right so when i was fighting rumble johnson you can't do this like just straight down yes yes but if you do a little bit of an arch it's okay or an angle a little bit yeah angle in arch so i was able to cut rumble with like an arch and elbow, but it really did come straight down. It was very little in terms of not being straight up and down. I just don't want anything that makes fighting look like a street fight. That's it. I don't want to get one of the-
Starting point is 00:31:56 We fight people in a cage in our underwear. I'm talking about like, so one of the reasons, John McCain, before he passed, was against fighting because he said it's human cockfighting. But then they would show these videos of like gang fights and people running around and people on the ground, and they would just kick them in the face. You know how that happens.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah. If we get the soccer kicks, it starts to look like that again. That's not good, man. But wait, the gang members know the 12 to 6 elbow is out of a special motorcycle gang. Instead of like this and everything kind of looks clean. I'm telling you, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:28 These are my reasons. I don't like the 126 elbow I don't feel as strongly about. I don't care as much about 126 elbows. But I think the moment we start opening those rules again. I agree. Thumbs down. It's going to be more and more. and more and then ultimately will get back to soccer kicks.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Because now you do know that now, hands down, starting in November, is not grounded anymore. That's perfect. It is perfect. But again, that's one move back towards that. That one has clarity. So they've got to put a knee down. Then there'll be something else that moves closer to that.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And then that's just my biggest one. You should get the knee the downed opponent. Listen, like a headlock position, chest wrap position, maybe you're controlling a side control. There's a lot of really, it makes the fight actually work better because there's positions where you can hold them with your hands and knee them
Starting point is 00:33:20 and then they're forced to actually move and then a choke opens up or something else opens up because you're allowed to need them whereas like you know there's been a few fights in the UFC where I have my headlock and not me specifically but other people and you can't do anything because you can't strike them because your hands are in their hands down their hands down yeah yeah so then you see them
Starting point is 00:33:40 starting to try to lift they're trying to lift the person's hands off the mat and when you're trying to lift them off the mat now you can't generate the power you need to try to need the person so yeah i get me totally distracted what i was gonna say with the 12 to 6 elbow was Dana white is trying to get the loss removed from john's record to make him underfeiting yeah yeah what is going on with what is going on with dana and john lately that's what i'm saying but like what's happening lately though because he's been he's been very adamant about him being powerful on number one like yeah oh he is going crazy Every time somebody says that John is in Palm Phopo, he goes to his defense.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I've never seen him defend him like that before in his start a career. It's not like John just got here. John's been here for like 15 years. I don't think I've ever seen him that strongly in his corner on anything. And guys, here's the deal. If there's ever a time where you could say that John Jones isn't the Palm for a moment fighting in the world, it's right now because he's so inactive. Not because of his skills.
Starting point is 00:34:40 not because of his skills. Because partly, can I honestly, this is another thing, Ben. We really don't know what his skills are because the last time we saw him fighting the true fight was in 2020. Yeah. I think, right?
Starting point is 00:34:53 20 was when he fought Dominic Reyes. February and 2020 was Dom Reyes. And then he fought Serodon in 23. Yes, and you want to make an argument against him. Also, you know, he wasn't nearly as impressive in the Anthony Smith, Tiago Santos. That was a split decision. Dominic Rias.
Starting point is 00:35:09 They weren't great fights. They weren't as impressive as he had been prior to that. And so, you know, then you're going back to, then it was 2018 against Gustafson when he put him out. I mean, that's, we're getting close to six years away now. Yes. But then, but as with most things, right? It deteriorates your time. But we don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:28 We don't know who John is today in a long fight like he was before. Now, he does use the gone fight. Then he used the gun fight as the example saying, well, he went up. heavyweight and he beat the most dangerous guy, but, I mean, you know, I thought Cyril would have fought him better, if I'm being honest. I thought that would have been a much more competitive fight. I was surprised that it ended in the way that it did. So that was impressive. But again, we don't really have much, because what we do know, right, we do know that Islamahachev is really, really good. We do know that Belaw Muhammad is really, really good and getting better because we see
Starting point is 00:36:06 these guys competing on a consistent basis. Who else did they put above them? Who else did they put above him in the rank. It's Gustafson. It's, it's Islam and it's, uh, is it Pereira maybe? I'm going to like, uh, is it Pereira. Oh, that's interesting. Not that gets interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:36:22 I don't know that I'd put Pereira ahead of him. I don't think so either. I don't think I'd put Pereira in front of John in terms of Palm. That's not Islam, Pereira, Jones, Tupuria, Muhammad. I don't know that I would put Pereira in front of them. But again, we have, we do have things. to judge what Pereira is doing today in terms of building a case for him
Starting point is 00:36:45 being in the powerful round rankings like that. It's crazy. But I don't know why John's not fighting him. I don't understand why he's not doing it. I will not say he's afraid of him. I keep telling everybody he's not afraid of him. But some people actually think that he's just a little like, I don't want to do this with him.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I think he's afraid. I think what John really desires to do is go out with a zero on his record, it appears. And he has a higher chance to lose to Tom than he does the steep. And it's like, no one's ever going to say, I mean, it would be so idiotic for someone to say, oh, John fought an easy resume. Now, John's resume is second and none. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:23 There's probably no one who has as good a resume as John Jones in the UFC. And so if he gets his last win, whether it's an easy guy or a hard guy, he still has a great resume. And he goes out undefeated. And, you know, it's him and Kabid. Yeah. But there's one thing also that I got to say, Ben. Before we go, is that he fought everybody, he beat everybody, and he's always stepped up.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And honestly, he has seen this before, right? If there's ever been a time that you can look at a champion that goes, I don't really want to go back into this, especially at 38 now, right? He's almost 38 years old when you've seen it. Because it was initially, it was, when I got to the UFC, I was smashing everybody. Oh, Daniel might be the guy to beat John Jones, right? Gustafson, he might beat. Everything he's seen these challenges come before, had to get excited.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And maybe he knows, Ben, what he would have to do in order to beat this guy, because he can beat him. But in order to beat all of us, he had to train exceedingly hard and he had to be really committed. And maybe at this age, he just doesn't want to do that anymore. Yeah. I mean, that's a very, very fair tape, obviously. But I still want to see it. So you're not convincing me on that.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Do you want to train for the Olympics again? Do you remember how hard you trained for the Olympics? I want to wrestle somebody. Not a whole tournament though, not a whole tournament, just one person. But think about that, right? Like, think about that, Ben, at our age, if I said, Ben, I need you to train exactly as hard as you did for the Olympics for a match. You'd be like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I mean, I agree with what you're saying here, but that's where it's like, well, either you're an active fighter or you're not. If you're an active fighter, just fight. And if you're not, you're not like Connor, not an active fighter. So don't be an active fighter. Don't say you're going to fight someone. You're not, bro, you haven't showed up in how many years? Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:39:13 You're so stupid. Well, that's where we started. And that's where we've been in. That's the time of the record. Right back. I believe it was a little person dancing on him in the bar. Hey, what? You didn't see that video?
Starting point is 00:39:26 Stop, Daniel. You got to get on the internet a little bit. What video? Luis. Louise, Louise, put it in the chat. Real quick, so Daniel could die laughing. I can't quite tell for sure from the video.
Starting point is 00:39:37 It must be taken on a cell phone. phone. Luis, point in the chat right now. As and as the world turns, so does every show. It just goes back to Connor and Michael Chandler. You can't even get through the show. I really wanted to talk about I'll. Ballin Macs, that would have been fun. That was really great.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And then Sean and Marab. There's so many things going on now. That's what we'll do next week. Guys, hold on, hold on, hold on. New message in the chat. He said he's striking out. He's striking out. You can't find the video.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Hey, Connor deleted it. Guys, that's another episode of Funkin' The Champ for Ben Ascran. I'm Daniel Corbyier. And for Luis, Luis can't even find the video. Come on, Luis. Till next time. Peace. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite.
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