The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Daniel Cormier & Ben Askren REACT to Jon Jones wanting Alex Pereira BMF title fight

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Daniel Cormier and Ben Askren ARE BACK with a brand new edition of Funky and the Champ. Askren GOES IN ON why he believes although Jon Jones is an MMA GOAT, he's STILL avoiding Tom Aspinall in his near future. Plus, DC and Ben talk about the possibility of Alex Pereira and Jon Jones fighting for the BMF title after Jones made it public that's the next fight he wants. And don't miss DC and Askren talk Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul on Netflix, Michael Chandler vs. Charles Oliveira, and Donald Trump being in attendance for this week's UFC 309 fights in New York City. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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it's UFC 309 week finally been the biggest and the baddest will be determined this weekend as Steve Amyo-Chine. Or will it be? Or will it be? Because I got some questions. Tom Aspinall. That's something we got to get into a little bit later in the show. But first, Ben, you just left yoga, huh? How was it?

I did. I go with my wife usually once a week in the mornings. It was great. I actually feel much better. You got to do hot yoga. You got to sweat. Can't do regular. I know.

So one time I swear, bro, I was in, I was in, I fought somebody. Won a world title. Go to hot yoga to Monday. Okay. I'm in there with all these women. Yeah? I was going so hard because I was in shape. I just fought a 25-minute fight.

It was so hot. And it was so hard. I like faked an injury, bro, to get out of your hot. No, you didn't. That's so embarrassing. thing. That is homeberry. The UFC champion, and they all knew who I was, fakes an injury to get out of hot yoga.

What injury could you possibly fake? What, hamstring pole? I was like, ah, jeez, I think I did something to my knee. And I was like, ah, I just need to get out of that room, bro. It was so hot. How hot is it in there for you guys? I are not, not hot enough to be a quitter. Bro, I quit. What would John Smith say?

He would have been so pissed at me. I was so, honestly, by the time my body temperature came down, I was disappointed. It's like, you know, you have that embarrassment? Like, after you do something and then you're embarrassed after, I had that embarrassment sitting outside that hot yoga room. Dude, it was bad. Oh, my God.

Anyhow. Shut up, dude. It's not funny. So John Jones and Steve Amy Oachers are fighting this weekend. Yeah. Bro, this whole subplot is started. And we have beat this topic. To death.

To death. But it seems as though it's getting bigger and it's more present than ever. It's infuriating. It's a fight. I don't know. Listen, I think we need to pull the people because I feel like maybe it's just because I'm slightly autistic and I can't let it go that the full truth is not being heard. Like, it's driving me insane.

What do you mean? Well, John keeps saying, oh, maybe I'll fight Alex Pereira and Tom. Well, that's who he wants to fight next. I understand. But he's saying, well, that Tom Lassol doesn't. So he's giving you all these reasons. But the real reason is that's my toughest fight. That's the toughest guy.

That guy is undefeated. He's won the heavyweight title. He's defended the heavyweight title. Hidal Everglow, which I also hold, so they've made these two essentially parallel heavyweight titles. Listen, I actually really like Deep, so I hate it every time I have to say this. But he hasn't fought in four years.

But he actually looks pretty good. I watch contact. He looks good. Ali looks good at the end. He seems in the spirit. He seems still fast. I was watching this porn. No, this is where the people love it when I hold you in check

because you're sometimes a company man, Daniel. No, but listen. Just because someone looks good. Doesn't mean they can fight good. I'll tell you to two. four years. I also have some inside information from one. What?

Hey, look, I have some. We don't know. We just don't know. We just don't know. He has a fun four years. Listen. Listen. I have some inside information. Okay.

Go. Breaking news. Mike de Sabito. And instead, no. You can't trust on that. Listen. You said Mike de Salmala.

I have some inside information from one, Mike de Sabato. As a disclaimer. he is from Ohio. I will just say he's borderline insane. My little brother is telling me, Stipe is ready to shock the world. He's plus 8,500 to win by submission.

They feel like the standup is on point. They say that they are ready for the grappling. Dude, I can't help but shake this feeling that as we get closer, Ben, this is much closer. then we are giving this fight credit for. It's not a company, man. It is much closer than we are giving this guy credit for.

I love that you're selling this. I can appreciate it. No, no, stop, sir. Well, but the last, okay, the last time Steve they want to fight was August of 2020. But do you want me to tell you how big it is? Well, I just don't believe you. Do you want me to tell you how big it is? Sure, tell me how big it is.

Yesterday, I had to send in my phone number, address, social security number, full name, birthday because guess who's in the building? The president of course. The president of them. No, he doesn't. The president elect is in the building to watch the biggest and the baddest fight. Dude.

I think he's actually coming to watch Bone Nickel. In all fairness. Do you think so? It's a better fight than you credit for, Ben. Okay, let's say, here's the things. I hope it's a good fight. I actually like steep. You know what is funny is because

it's weird. I felt this when I was on full wrestling all the time is sometimes because I felt the need of say what I thought the truth was I felt like people got mad at me and didn't like me when it's like well I don't actually dislike you like you know I think it's actually really cool John Jones is training with Gordon Ryan and Gable Stevenson like that's freaking cool like he's bringing some of the best guys stepey undoubtedly if we just says what resumes of heavyweights he's top three for sure yeah but again he just hasn't fought in four years that's a really long time. I don't know what he's going to look like on Saturday.

And again, there's this guy Tom Aspinall who's undefeated who has a parallel. So at this point, there's just two UFC heavyweight belts because for some reason, it really is. Like I don't understand why we aren't just saying it. Tom Ashton is a heavyweight champion too. Like he is. Yes. It's like he's actually fighting, defending. And we got these two guys who are legends and who are great that are like we're fighting each other and nobody else. Like so it's like you have two heavyweight champions.

Hey, is there something? to John Jones saying he weighs 2.35. Because I thought in the fight against Cyril Gond, he was too heavy. I thought he looked weird. He was too big. He looked puffy. Really? You think so? He said he's 235.

He said he used to walk around around that when he was fighting at light heavyweight. I thought John Jones, the light heavyweight, could just fight at heavyweight and compete without cutting weight. Yeah, I always thought that too. Well, I mean, it was funny because actually at the same time that John Jones and, I mean, both of you were light heavyweight champions.

Steepay at that time was the heavyweight champion, and he was a very small heavyweight. I mean, I want to say a couple of times I waited at like 227 or something. No, no, 230. So like done to mid-2-30s. Okay, which I thought he was smaller one time. I'm going to Google it. Well, the lowest he was was like 230 when we fought.

Okay. So whereas, you know, you and John, I'm sure both of you in your non-camp, you know, you win a fight, you go to camp, If you eat whatever you want, you probably get heavier than that, which I always thought was hilarious. Yeah, no, no, we were both pretty big for the weight class. And I just think that this fight is big. But yes, we have a Tom Aspinall problem.

We absolutely have a Tom Aspenol problem. And honestly, do you think John's just smart enough to do what he's doing to rile up people? You control people. You control people and go, oh, you love this guy so much? I'm not fighting him. But in reality, you might know, You might fight him or you might have to fight him.

Do you think he's trolling? Because it's hard for me. Well, what do you make of the fact that he's going to retire? Do you think he's actually going to retire? No, I think he's going to fight. I think he's going to fight. Tom Aspinall or he's going to fight like Alex Pereira. He wants to fight Alex Pereira bad, bro.

Like, and why wouldn't? I mean, it's so hard not to be disrespectful to Alex. Like, it's hard not to disrespect Alex when you respect him so much. But it just still seems like there's that big glaring, in his game. Yes. And nobody can test it. And when guys do wrestle him a little bit,

they hold them down, bro. Like we watch Izzy hold him down. We watch Albehovic hold him down and win the first round. A guy like John is way superior to wrestling. Huh? John has way superior to both of those guys. Exactly, bro. In terms of wrestling and ground and pound.

Like it would be very difficult fight for Alex. But John said he wants to fight him. And he keeps like, he said Tom Aspenall is essentially a nobody. That's why he's not fighting. Yes, I know. And so again, when the full truth isn't being told, it's frustrating. And for me, I understand that the UFC is entertainment part, but to me, it's also a sport.

It is a sport. Point of the sport is to figure who the best is. And, you know, on top of this, we already had this guy, Francis Ngano, who just left and now he's out here. As the heavyweight champ. As the heavyweight champ. So he's out there, like, well, could he be the best? I think there's actually a possibility.

The heavyweight championship is all weird right now in the U.S. all weird. So yeah, so it's frustrating me because I wonder who the best guy is. I would love, I would love to see them all fight. But it feels it feels like, it feels like to me, as we've gotten closer, it doesn't seem as outlandish that

Steepa and Jones are fighting this weekend for the heavyweight title. Initially it seemed like these guys are holding the division on hostage. They're not the best. Tom Aspin all it is. But as we get closer, I'm like, maybe they are the best. I swear to God, I'm, I really feel like that. So, hey, I guess I don't even know the answer to this.

Why did, why has Steve A taken almost four years off? He was only fighting for the belt. Dude, he literally stood on his business. He stood on business and said, I'm not fighting unless it's for the belt. I swear to God. So if he would have never got a title shot, he would have retired. He would be done. He would be done.

Really? Okay, that's interesting. I'm only fighting for the belt. And he said he was waiting for it. And ultimately, he held out long enough to where he got it. But I think that if Cyril Gahn would, to beat John Jones, see Steepay was done. Steve what would save Steve

was John Jones saying I want to fight Steve Amy Oitch because he wouldn't have gotten that title fight or he would have gotten it before. When Francis left, they would have said, we need to put this guy back into a championship fight. But it's okay, so let me, can I tell you one more thing that's weird about this?

Because I was thinking about, you know, the thing because it is frustrating me. And, you know, I want to make sure I'm being intellectually honest with myself and not trying to be biased or emotional. And I think it's like, you know, So John wants to fight Steve Bay for legacy. And because I said, I already admitted Steve Bay has one of the top resumes,

but he's in fought forever. So like take like when Anderson Silva loses to Chris Wyden, right? When he lost the belt. Okay. Now go four years from that date. Yep. You get as much credit for beating Anderson Silva four years later. And I think the answer is no.

No, no. Oh, that's a great. That's a great. Right. Do you see what I'm saying? Like, I don't think you do. Or for example, another guy. But what you're saying is, even if John,

unbeat them today. It's not like beating him back in 2017, 18, 20. Heck no. Another guy would be like, Jose Aldo, for example. Remember for a while, he was just completely unbeatable, unstoppable. And it kind of knocked him out. And then now no one thinks kind of the same way about him. And, you know, I think we could think of some other examples over the course of history that would be just like that. And so that's kind of how I feel about it. I just think that Jones, like, really love, he loves his legacy. He wants to protect it at all costs. And I think that at this point in his career, I don't know that he wants to fight a bigger guy that can wrestle that has tremendous strike and can do all these

things that Tom Aspinall can do right now. But then aren't you leaving a different legacy a little bit, Daniel? Aren't you leaving the legacy that there's this guy that I won't fight? Stop, stop. I don't think that he worries about that. Because imagine this, right? After all that happened in the past with me and other things that have happened, he's never been truly held accountable for those things.

especially by fans. Fans still call him the greatest of all time. Fans still say he did this and he did that. So it's like, does it really matter, as long as you keep that zero, no matter what happens. He lost to Matt Hamel.

Of course, yes. But like, as long as you never see him actually get beaten a fight, I don't think it matters what happens outside. Because if it did, really, you think? Bro, because if it did, all the things that happen in the bill to our fights,

the things that happened outside of the octagon, they would be more present in his story. Right now it seems like those things are all like archaic. They're in the archives. Nobody talks about it anymore. It's like a whole new guy. And sure he's changed. So in five years, if he retires,

and Tom Aspinall at some point loses, right, to someone, nobody will remember that in two, thousand, 24, John Jones refused to fight him. John Jones will still just be the undefeated guy. I'm telling you. That's my thought.

I mean, that's interesting. So, I mean, when I think about John Jones, I think about, and this is kind of, I said this by Anderson Silva, because, you know,

Rogan actually said this. He was talking about this. Oh, you know, he was talking to Trump about it, which was hilarious because, like, Trump was actually just genuinely interested in fighting, but he was talking about

when he talks about who the best of all time is, because I actually think they maybe were talking about John Jones. and Joe was saying because some people fight for so long it's not fair to count the latter part against them So like Anderson Like okay so what Joe counts is like the prime

And so I think if you look at John Jones say we'll say 11 through 16 I mean because his stretch there Actually I don't remember this It was he fought four times In um 2011 And finished all four So he finished Bader Shogun

Rampage and Leota Like just just that singular year And those are like Those are two UFC champions In Shogun and Rampage And at that point Right so a Shogun at that point Is a total legend

Rampage at that point is a legend And so was Machita I mean like Oh Machita too yeah Yeah he was a beast at that time right So you're talking about three guys Who were totally amazing And so I think even that 11 through 17

Is kind of if you just think about just that That could be like the best of all But then I don't know. I feel like he is, I don't say tainting his legacy, but it's like, I don't know, I'm being intellectually honest. But that's to you to sportsmen, not the general fan who literally only cares about wins and losses. Right now the Kansas City Chiefs have not lost a football game, right? So people talk about that. They've played really bad.

They haven't played great. So they may be better down the line, but right now they're undefeated. And that's all people talk about is how the Chiefs are undefeated. they don't think about all the other stuff and I feel like if David Taylor got beat at the world championship he wasn't going to beat Sajadja Lai he wasn't prepared to be Sajalaya

but we believed that he could and we ignored everything building the training the head coach all that you can't ignore the other stuff and that's what happens that's what happens in sports right now John Jones is smart and if he goes I ain't got to fight this dude

if somebody else beats him he can go back and go well you guys all act like Tom Aspinall was this great threat to me He got beat by so-and-so. I mean, you know who else does that a lot, Dana. Dana will sign, I mean, he did this to me to a certain extent, but sign someone he doesn't really enjoy past their prime, right?

And then say, oh, they were never that good anyways. I mean, that, that is a, that's a prime Dana. Well, when Fadar started losing, when Fadar started losing, he was like, this dude, never was that good. Yeah. We all kind of do that a little bit in sports. But Ben, last thing, last thing before we move on from this topic. Okay.

So John had this idea, and I saw it just yesterday on, I think it was MMA junkie or this morning I got a thing from MMA junkie, Instagram. It said, John said, he said, how cool would it be if Alex Pereira and I fight for the BMF championship? Fighting him for the BMIV belt would be really cool. we both have two belts and two weight classes. The night we fought, we'd both be fighting for our third belt, which would be the BMF. How cool would that be to fight Alex Pereira? Oh, man.

Or the BMF title. He said he'd vacate the heavyweight championship for this. Of course he would. This makes me feel, God, it's going to make me feel like I'm doing a shit on John's session. And you know what I said like, I mean, I don't agree with everything John's ever said or done, obviously, but I generally think he's a great fighter, possibly the greatest of all time. But this is shenanigans.

Now, Alex could fight for the BMF because he fights all the time, right? This guy fights like once every three months. John has only fought one time in the last five years, maybe two, one. We fought surreal, and then it's been... No, he fought in 2020. Twice in five years. Twice in five years. in Syrogon.

So that is not a BMA, BMF thing, right? So the BMF, when it was put in, was like, unfortunately, it was these guys who loved to fight but weren't quite enough to win a real title. So that was why they made the BMF. But now the BMF is fought by a championship caliber fighters. Correct, but neither of them held the belt at that time. They didn't hold the belt at the time.

So John is suggesting that they give up two belts to fight each other for the BMF. Has the BMF now become more valuable than a world championship? Well, it's just, I mean, I think John is just using it as a ploy to not fight Tamestinal is how it seems to me. God, I hate that I have to say this, but, you know, people are being mad at me, but whatever. But yes, that's what it seems to me. It seems to me that that is the whole premise here. Just fight freaking Tom Aspernel. Let us know who the best is. And then, yeah, whatever. But you actually believe that he just does not want to fight this guy. Do you think the threat is that real? When you watch Ashbyn? That's the only thing that makes it make something else make sense to me.

I don't know how to make it. I don't know how to make it. I don't know how to make it make sense. I can't make it make sense. I don't know how to make it makes sense. If you're fighting, why is he doing? I just don't understand why he's doing this. I just, to me, I'm like, it has to be him just trolling. It has to be him just trolling. I can't imagine he's not scared, man. There's no other logic. He's not scared because he's not, I hate when people go, he's scared. So scared could be a few things, right? I brought this up. Scared could be fear of losing the zero because that's the thing that's most important to him. And even if, so even if in his,

so I'm putting myself in John Jones mind, to him, you know, maybe Steve, he's got a 20% chance of losing. And against Alex, he's got a 10% chance of losing. Even if he has,

in his own mind, maybe a 30% chance of losing his aspirin, that is still a greater threat than the other things. You're right. Yeah. You're right. God, man, I'm going there this weekend.

I can't waste for me a great fight. I think when those guys hit that curtain. You get to hang out with Trump? he usually comes and says hi to me and talks to me every time. What are you going to talk about golf? You know, so my mom, my mom before she passed, God bless us, so sweet Audrey. She, uh, I always turned to one of those like black people whenever I talk about my mama. That was like I'm in the church somewhere.

Listen, she hated Trump talk. She hated Trump. And she was like just Democrat, bro. Yeah. Dude, when she saw him come up to me at the UFC event, what you doing with that? And she called him my N-WRoe. I swear to God.

Where did she called Trump the N-word? Yeah, what you do? Why? Because he's a felon and he got shot at? I have no idea why she called him dead. Well, because, see, so like now black people will say that the N-word does the term of endearment. What's up?

My mom and them, when they were said, she was older. So when they said it, it was a very derogatory thing. So she was called him something very, very ugly when she saw him come up to me at the, UFC event. It's funny. But hey, he's always, he's always really cool. He told me I have a open invitation to play golf at any of his courses around the country anytime. In golf. I can't beat him. He's too good. Really? He's actually really, really good at golf. He's really good. Seriously. It doesn't have the most beautiful swing, but it's really effective. And he hits

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And so we just thugged it out. The full season is available to binge. Right now, listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Ben, speaking of trolls, right? At times, people could say that the next president won't troll people because he's so direct. You know who's a troll? Jake Paul, who is fighting Mike Tyson on Friday night?

Bro, Mike Tyson is jacked. I don't care. I don't care that he's 58. I don't care. Do you believe they're really going to let Mike Tyson fight this kid? Like, fight him to hurt him? I mean, it seems like it's happening. Doesn't it feel like that?

You know, I already gave you my take. I think Jake's going to win. But, bro, do you feel? But do you? I thought the whole time this was some sort of ex-examation. I thought it was like an exhibition. Yeah. It doesn't feel like that anymore.

It feels like they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think Jake's going to win. You think Jake's going to beat Mike Tyson? Yes, I gave you my lot. I'll be giving you my logic one more time because it has been a while. Roy Jones and Mike Tyson fought each other. Yes.

It was near a draw. It's very, very competitive, even. But that was like that was really didn't play fighting. A little bit, but you could tell they were even, you know. Like if they ramped up the intensity, it probably still would have been even. even, right? Because was not like one of them kicked in the one's butt.

So Roy was talking about this recently. Okay. Roy was talking about this, how he was worried. So he kept clinching, Mike. These are things that Roy Jones Jr., the world champions fought his whole life Olympian. Okay.

How was how to do. Jake Paul did not to get to a clinch. Hold on, but then, if you remember correctly, Roy Jones lost a boxing fight shortly after that to Anthony Pettus. Now, Anthony Pettis is a highly skilled fighter, but at this point in time, he was past his prime, and he's just not a big guy. He's a 135 pounder. He had fought at 145, right, for some of his career.

And he beat Roy Jones in a boxing fight, in a legitimate boxing fight. It doesn't appear that anyone was claiming anything other than it was legitimate. You know, Jake is a solid 200-pounder. Like, I don't know, maybe he'd make 1-8-5, I'm not sure, but it seems like he's even bigger than that. So we're talking two, three, four, a lot of weight classes apart. And someone who's much younger. And, you know, we talked about Erison Silva. Now, listen, you may not get much credit for beating Ben Asker and a striking bout.

But you should get a little bit of credit for beating Tyrone and Lillian and Errs. Silva. Yeah, yeah, you should. You should get a little bit. Those guys can box. Yeah. Those guys can box. Tyron can box and Anderson can box.

Yes. But they're both small, man. Mike Tyson is not small. Well, but Mike is brought up Anthony Pettis. Think about that. I brought up Anthony. He's way smaller than Tyrant. A tyrant's smaller than Anderson.

Yeah, but I'm saying Mike Tyson is not small. He's going to be 200. Let's make a bet on this. I bet how much? How much you want to bet? How much you want to bet? You tell me. Listen, okay.

If I win, you have to buy a Bitcoin. And then you're going to thank me for that long term, right? Because I'm going to do good by you. And if I wait, if I win you to buy Bitcoin, if you win, what do you want for me? I have to wear a Oklahoma State Cowboys shirt Okay, you don't do that Okay You think about what you want for me and I will bet you buy me a Bitcoin

You have to wear an Oklahoma State shirt for a month of shows A month A month of shows Because a Bitcoin's not cheap How much am I paid for a Bitcoin? It's going to make you money It's like 80% down the line But how much how much am I paying for a Bitcoin?

I care about you long term and I want you I love that and I love that and I love that and I appreciate that. I'll buy a Bitcoin anyways. But still, let's, that's the bet. One month of shows

you wear an orange Oklahoma State Russell t-shirt. So you need to send it to me because if, I will send it to you next week and if, if Jake somehow wins, then,

or if Tyson beats him then I'll wear it for the next show. Okay. Hey, Jake also said that if he beats Mike Tyson, he's calling out Canelo Alvarez. That and now that, to me,

makes more sense because he likes to fight smaller guys. But, well, he'll still beat him. I don't even know. Canelo fights 175. And he's small at 175.

Okay. Yeah. I was going to say, 175 is not that small. But yeah, if he's, well, no,

because Canello is not a 75 pound. When he lost, when he lost, yeah, he lost at 175 because he was maxing out, like, what he was trying to fight at. Got it.

That's a true. Did he fight, or a long time ago, didn't he fight Floyd? And Floyd's really small, right? At 154. Dang. Okay.

Canelo can fight a, Canelo fought at 154, and Jake said he's going to fight him. Well, so now, Canello is getting older because that Canello Floyd made with it. That was like when I was living in Phoenix or something. So that's like 15 years ago or something. But he's still making 30 mil to fight. He is. So maybe Jake is trying to wait until Connell gets older because he knows it's not going to happen immediately, you know?

You know, so maybe he's waiting until he gets older. And then, you know, Conello will be like 40 and Jake will be like 28 or something. I don't know. Yeah. know, I don't know. I mean, I mean, dude, I heard her. So I don't know that, I just don't know that, you know, I think he's doing good work, right? He lost to, he lost to, he lost to a Tyson Furious brother.

Yeah. The only true boxer he's fought. Mike Tyson is a true boxer. I didn't believe that it was a real fight. Now, hey, bro, I did a breakdown for Netflix on this fight. Oh, really? Yes. It's like real.

It's like a real fight. I did a breakdown on the fight. They sent me stuff to watch on the fight. on the fight. I swear to God, Ben, I did not believe that they were going to let Mike Tyson truly fight this kid.

They're letting Mike fight him. And Mike's going to try to hurt him. And if Mike's trying to hurt you, bro, and it looks like Mike is like on the stuff. He looks huge. Like, he's on the stuff. Oh, Jay probably is too. So let me ask you a question.

How many years does that take off of Mike Tyson if he's like on the good stuff? I probably makes it feel a little bit better. 45? Can take off 13 years. Maybe, potentially. 45-year-old Mike Tyson's beating Jake Paul every day of a week. Well, when did I stop fighting?

I just looked up. Mike has not fought in competitive fights since like 2002. Oh, that's a long time. You were mad about steep, it was four years. But this is like a fun thing. No, it's not fun. They're fighting. Well, it's kind of fun.

It's kind of a side show. It's not like we're not like fighting for the WCBC belt or something here. they give a title for that. I want a belt. Because you imagine I want a belt on the line a beautiful belt

to the person that wins. Bro. Some say the most beautiful belt. Would it be satisfying for you if Mike just like starches this dude or do you hold anything bad towards Jake Paul at all?

No, I kind of let it go and honestly kind of makes me look better, the better he does. And I'm like, look, I told you guys he wasn't terrible.

Like, you know, I never pretended to be a good boxer. I just was hoping he was going to suck. And now he's actually like decent. You know, he's fighting Mike Tyson. and so, yeah. Yeah, he's not a bad boxer.

He's actually much better than I thought. Boy, this is a big fight weekend. Michael Chandler's back, fights against Charles Oliva. Chandler said he's going to knock him out again. He said the first time he's going to knock him out. He almost did. He said he going to knock him out again.

I talked to Mike yesterday, which was really good. I like Mike. I like Chandler, man. We're kind of hard on Chandler too much. He takes no offense to it. No, we weren't hard on him. We were fair.

Fair. At times with friends, you have to be hard. even while being fair. Because he never got the McGregor fight, so we were crazy, we were right. Hey, I think that if he, I actually think if he loses this weekend,

it puts him closer to the McGregor fight. If he looks too good, if he looks too good, Connors to be like, nah. Maybe wins, it gives him a perfect callout opportunity, obviously. It gives him a call-out opportunity, but if he looks too good,

the only reason McGregor was going to fight him because he looks like he might be a guy he can beat. Yeah. If he, uh, mm-hmm. Yeah. So, Luis said when we started this podcast, you knew that Chandler and McGregor weren't fighting.

Though you're like no Stradamas. I mean, that was, well, I think in the beginning, I just said, I remember, because this is how long ago it was.

I said, they're not going to fight in 2023. And, you know, we're almost a 2025 at this point. Yeah, we're almost 25. You thought that was crazy.

And then it, the longer it dragged on, the more evident it became to me that, that, that Connor McGregor does not. not want to fight anybody. You're so hilarious. Ben, did you see my boy Cody Merrill last weekend,

won the Michigan State Open? He did win the Michigan. Yeah, he did good. I was proud of him. I was proud of him. Hey, dude, for the first time, I've got four kids starting in D1 right now. We've got four D1 starters.

Cody, you got Salate. Who else you got? Saladate, Jaden Gomez at Arkansas, Little Rock, Henry Porter at Indiana and Victor Hasinto at Oregon State. What's that's five? Four. Oh, no, Cody's not starting.

It doesn't start. No, Cody doesn't be wrestling. But then, like, in a couple of years, we'll have the Cortez twins and Daniels Opaeda, Moses Mendoza, all those guys. So, you, because you have, what, 20 Division I ones starters right now? I would have to look. I think we had 18 last year.

18 D1 kids at NCAA tournament. That's fucking. No, no, no, we had eight or nine qualifiers, but that we're in starting lineups going into sick conferences. That's so wild. 18 kids. That's nuts. All right, bro.

All right. Mike Tyson said. one weekend. Tyson side by side from his last fight. Okay, hey, he got a picture. Look at that picture. So is he saying he's bigger and stronger. He's on. Look at the picture before we go. Mike Tyson in the picture today and Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Jr. No. He, 2005 is when he fought last. 2024. Mike Tyson today looks better, Ben. He looks better today than he did back then. Jake Paul might be in trouble. He's probably on some extra medicine,

but I bet it's legal. I bet they're not testing. I'm about to get my pay. You're going to have that orange shirt on. You all look good in orange. Ben, have a great weekend, man. Guys, but been asking, I'm Daniel Cormier. It's another episode of Funking the Champ.

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