The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Daniel Cormier CALLS FOR Islam Makhachev vs. Ilia Topuria for lightweight title NEXT

Episode Date: March 15, 2025

Daniel Cormier IS BACK, here to give his take on Justin Gaethje, Islam Makhachev, Dustin Poirier, Ilia Topuria, Charles Oliveira, Arman Tsarukyan, Renato Moicano, Max Holloway, and the ABSOLUTE MESS that we have in the UFC's 155-pound lightweight division. DC says Makhachev needs to fight Topuria next, and sets up the rest of the matchups in the division and what fights he would do make for 2025 in the lightweight division. Plus, hear why Cormier thinks Tsarukyan has a good case against Gaethje for not giving Justin that fight next. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's been a rough month at the Ultimate Fighter. The boy has been, it was something. Let's just say it was something. I like the experience. I like to coach and I love being around Chayo and everything, but it was something.

Busy, busy. But, I'm glad to be home. Glad to be able to start coming back directly to you guys, especially on some of these things I've been happening in mixed martial arts. So UFC 313 saw Justin Gachi return successfully back to the Octagon, beat Rafael Fazeve in what was a typical Justin Gachie fight. Look, there were so many people that wondered if he could still fight,

if he could still do this and the other. He answered that. But by winning that fight, When you're a guy like Justin Gagyi, Dustin Porier, it really is all about timing of when you're going to get something. So as soon as he went to fight, obviously people start asking if he wants to fight Islamahadchev. You know what's funny is how short memory we as fans have

because right before JG went into that fight, I had people from ES Stephen A all the way up on first take to the fan that I would see in passing in Las Vegas telling me they were concerned about Justin, concerned about his ability to take a punch. Does he still have it? He wins one fight, and now people are saying,

let's give him a title fight. It's like the way things change so quickly, to me is always surprising because I get having a short, memory as a fan. But we were talking about him being retired a fight ago. Now, I am not saying I don't want him to get a championship opportunity. I'm just saying how quickly things can change in a sport of mixed martial arts,

especially when you have a star attached your name like Justin Gage. Does he deserve a title fight? In terms of resume right now? No. Because actually, so he's. beat Dustin Porre to win the BMF title. He beat somebody right before. Hold on.

Let me see. Let me jump on my deal here. So he beat just, he beat Dustin Porier to win the BMF title. He lost his championship fight to Kabib, obviously, but that was 2020. So when I look back at JG's record, right? In 24, he lost to Max Holloway. in 23, he beat Dustin Poor, he beat Dustin Poria

and he beat Rafael Fazeev. 22, he lost to Oliver. So he lost his title fight against Oliver. Won two fights, then lost. One another one. So he's essentially three and one in his last four fights. When you got to, like again, when you're a star like Justin Gaichi,

that can get you a title fight. But then everybody else is pissed off. Armand Sarukyam's pissed off, right? Says he doesn't deserve. after beating the number 11 ranked guy in the world on short notice. But the problem is for Armand is that he didn't fight Islam in Los Angeles. And then right away, the organization says he's not fighting for the belt next. So it really does put him in a situation where you went from number one contender to really not having much say.

Ilya Teporia has gone up to 155 pounds And he seems to be a guy That could fight for a belt You know Or could fight for the title Ilius When I tell you it's going to surprise you Wouldn't be surprising if it's him versus Islam

Because him versus Islam is kind of a fight That you almost expect Right Almost expect Whenever you have A guy like the champion going up to another weight class and have a dominant champion

that's beating so many guys in that weight class that he's going up to. I don't know that Islam should fight him first. Because for Makachev, he goes and beats he goes and beats Iliate Tuporia. Right. People will say he beat Volk, he beat Ilionate Teporea,

he beat Charles Olavera, and he beat... Hanato Moincano. Seems pretty good. That's five title fight wins. But in that, it would say, well, he's defended the belt three times against feather weights.

Because at the end of the day, guys, it doesn't matter what you do or in high regard you hold someone. The fact that he was the champion in the lower weight class is what's going to be pointed to the moment Islam beats him. Because anytime you have a dominant champ,

anytime, you look for reasons to discredit them. Happens all the time. he beat a featherweight and he beat a featherweight and then he beat a guy that was ranked lower on a day's notice

people will always try to like find holes and his title rain when those title rain holes aren't there he is the best fighter in the world he is no more pomp on guy in the world and we should respect that but Justin Gachi seems to be

the guy that could be next but Iliotipo is there also Armand Sarukian has a claim to maybe getting a title fight Yo, 155 right now is a complete mess. It's a mess with this mess. I would say for me personally to make it more clear to add some direction to the weight class.

Hell guys, we still got Dustin Porre out here who says he's only fighting legends. There's only certain guys that fit the idea of who he wants to fight. as a retirement fight, even though we thought the last fight was a retirement fight. He told us all that he was done, right? He told us all that he was done, but he's back now, and nobody's mad that Dustin Porre is going to continue to fight. But only a few guys fit the bill of who he wants to see the last time he steps into the

oxygen, especially if it's in New Orleans. So here's what I got for you. God, because I even forgot about a whole of error. Dude, it's an abundance of riches at 155 pounds. Olivera is I thought he was supposed to be next for Islam Oliver

New Bronx alright here we go Charles Oliverer Charles Olivera this is crazy this guy I didn't even get into New Bronx Oliver was supposed to fight for the belt right after he beat Michael Chandler can't make the fight it turns into Armand Siruquiana

who before was supposed to fight for the belt before Olivera got the chance but said he didn't want it because he needed a full camp. He's out of the fight in Los Angeles because he got sick. His back was hurt. He can't go. In steps to Anato Maikano. Justin Gache meets Raphael Fazeve. Oh my God.

So, yeah, Ilya goes up. It's crazy. Here's what I would suggest, and I'm not a matchmaker. Ilya takes on Charles O'Levara. Justin Gaichi goes into the title fight with Makachov, right? Poria fights against he won't fight Mochauner from the same gym.

Chandler's fighting Patty Pimbled. I can't even match me this thing. Start again. DePorya versus Islamahatchev. Yes. Book it. Gachie versus

Sirukian. Book it. Whoever wins fights Makachio. That's it, right there. That's it. To Poria gets the shot. Sparuki and Gaichi,

win against the title fight. We're back in line at 155. Oliver, go down to New Orleans. Fight Dustin Porre. If you win again, you're next after that guy. There it is. That's it.

Olivera fits the bill. Oliver is a former champion, a big name. He could be the type of guy, Porreier would want to fight in his retirement fight. But just to recap, guys. Just to recap in the last year, what happened at 155? Macachov is the champ. Olivera pulls out, in steps vote.

Makachov knocks him out. Saruki then goes and beats Olivera. They offer him a title fight. He says, no, I need time, right? After Dustin Pori just beat Binwasan de knee. When he says no, Dustin Pori then slips into a title fight fights Islamahachev in Newark. Islamahchev wins.

Good. Olavera comes back in November, beats Michael Chandler, resets himself up as a guy could fight for the belt. But wait, guys, that goes to Armand Syruquian, who just beat Charles Olavera. All the while, Ilya Tuporio is beating everybody up at 145.

Armand Syruquian gets announced as the guy that's fighting for the belt at 155 pounds in January. He can't fight. In steps Anato Moikano, Makachov beats him. Armand says, I want my chance. UFC says you don't get your chance. Take a step back. Now, you have Olavera, who didn't get his fight.

You have Surukin didn't get his fight. I'llihan finishes Max Holloway. He says, I'm going up to 155. Then Justin Gachi beats Raphael Paziv. Four guys now, all standing on the doorstep of a title fight. That's 155 right now. And I'm here for it. because it's all fun fights with all tremendous guys.

But I'm matching it for you. Gachi, Sarukyan, Olivera versus Poria, Makachev versus Ilya, and there you go. Guys, 155 is a mess, and everybody's got something to say. And that's the best. That's what makes it interesting, and that's what makes it fun. And we still got patty to batty next month against Michael Chandler, who if he wins, we'll say, hey, guys,

I'm here. Welcome me to the party. I want to be involved in the conversation and rightfully so. It really is crazy. 155 pounds. But I'm here for it and I love it. So guys, happy to be home.

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Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman helped make.

you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on.

some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was probably. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come in to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs.

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