The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Daniel Cormier on Alex Pereira next fight in Sydney, Dustin Poirier eyeing BMF title?!

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

Daniel Cormier IS BACK to react to the biggest news in the UFC and MMA worlds, with this week being ALL ABOUT Dustin Poirier and Alex “Poatan” Pereira. Poirer is looking to have a HUGE FIGHT to end his career, and Cormier talks about the possibility of a trilogy with Max Holloway or fighting one of the up-and-coming talents in Rafael Fiziev or Renato Moicano. Plus, is the light heavyweight division "up for grabs" for an elite wrestling talent entering the division? And DC breaks down why Magomed Ankalaev should be worried after Alex Pereira came out and said he WON'T BE FIGHTING him and plans to fight in Sydney, Australia. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is actually 2025, 2025, 2025 on the calendar, which is kind of crazy. Because I feel like just yesterday we were ringing in the new year that was 2024. It ended up being a pretty good year for me, but also for the UFC and everything else we were involved with. It was a huge year for the channel. I appreciate you guys. But it's on to the new year. And in the new year, you know, at the end of the year, I thought that I would enjoy time off. And I thought that I would enjoy things slowing down.

But it felt kind of boring. Like, how did the news just all of a sudden stop? Because the UFC wasn't having fights. It was kind of odd that, um, that it was like that. And I remember back in the day, Risen, and there was another organization that King Mo used to fight in.

I can't remember what it was called. Maybe Singoku or something. They would do these fights on January 1st, and I kind of found myself looking forward to that, and it didn't happen this year. So it was a little odd for me, how slow everything has been. But as the calendar turns,

you know, things start to kind of come into focus a little bit. obviously we know what's happening in Los Angeles. And then in February, the UFC is going to Australia. While we saw Alex Pereira hitting the bag saying, Sydney, I will see you soon. And to the general person, right, anyone involved or anyone around mixed martial arts, you would think that he would be fighting against Magoamad Ancolaia,

who many thought would be a nightmare of matchup for him. But if I'm being honest with you, if you watch the last fight between Rockich, and Ancolaev. Granted, I thought Rockets fought better, which made it a tougher fight for Ancalaev. It's hard not to think that Alex Pereira would find the same kind of success that he's been finding against everyone else.

The general idea was that if he fought Ancolaev, Ancolaev would just try to take him down and hold him down. Ancolaev promises to knock him out. You know, a lot of times fighters will say things to make people buy in. to make people go, I want to watch that. I want to see him do that. I want to see him test himself against Alex Pereira in that way. We saw in his fight against Rockets, he did just that.

No takedowns. But people are misunderstanding a little bit. Like, Anclyev's not this high-level great wrestler. He's the best wrestler in the Light Heavy League Division right now, but he doesn't have all the accolades that come with what used to be considered a great wrestler in this division. with all that being said, with all that being said that if you're going to fight Uncle Ancolaev right now as Pereira, you think it should be now.

If Ancolaev showed that he is willing to stand with Pereira, you would think that that would be now. But Pereira tweets, I just received confirmation. It won't be Ancolaev. So who, right? Who would he fight if it's not Ancolaev? He has beaten Yuri Parasca twice. Jamal Hill is fighting Yeriparashka now. He just beat Khalil Rauntry, who was number eight going into the fight.

That shows you what he has done to the light heavyweight division. Granted, he has not cleared it out yet because he hasn't beaten everybody. But the guys that he's beaten and in the way that he's beating them, he has eliminated them from the top of the division at this moment. Jamal Hill has a great performance against Yuri. he could earn a title fight again. So already, Barrera may be finding himself running into rematches

if he doesn't fight Ancolaev. When reality tells him that right now is the best time to do so, I'm kind of trying to find and understand how or who else he would fight. I need to look down the line to find out who he could possibly fight

if he's not fighting that man. It has to be Ankelyev. It has to be Ankylai, And I would say there's never been a better time for Pereira to fight Ancolaev than right now. He said he's saying this based on a meeting he had with Dan and Hunter. I don't find Pereira to be a liar either. That's why I'm concerned that this dude, Ancolaev is not going to get a championship opportunity. Here in the rank is.

All right. So, Uncle is one. Prahashka's two, Jamal Hills three, Boehovich is four, Rockets is five. He has beaten Brohaska, Hill, Bojovic. Rockets just lost again. He beat Khalil Roundtree. So who, right? Who?

Dominic Reyes actually looked pretty good in his last fight, but he's number 11. It has to be Uncle I. If there's no one else in these rankings, that makes sense for him to fight. Carlos Olberg has a fight. If Carlos Olberg wins, then granted... it looks like a new challenge, but even that, right? Like, he's a striker.

What's he going to do to Alex Pereira? It's got to be on Kalaya. I mean, looking at these rankings, Pereira set up pretty nicely for a while. If he wants to, it has to be on Kalaya. And I think that right now is the right time for Pereira-on-Kalaya fight.

I'm interested, though. Watching that dude hit the bag is exciting to me. You know, I've been around this thing for a long time. watching Pereira hit the bag is exciting for me but there's no better time for him to fight Uncle I right now but what if Uncle I have just takes him down like what if Uncle I have truly

has pulled the wool over all of our eyes and he just starts taking him down because when you look at those rankings guys and if you're an NCAA wrestler right now that weighs in the 220 to 25 pound range and you look at these rankings you start going man I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to MMA I want to fight the UFC

because A. wrestler, a high-level wrestler right now, would seem to be able to feast on these matchups. Like, the champ, Prohachka, Jamal, Yuri, Rockich, Olberg. Guys, striker, striker, striker, striker, striker, striker,

striker, striker, striker, striker, striker, Johnny, well, I'm all the way down to Johnny Walker, striker, striker, Reyes, striker. I mean, Manifield, striker, smit, striker, goose calls, striker. Merzikhanov might be all the way down there to get to a guy that seems to have wrestling. But again, he's more of a striker himself. Yeah.

If you're a wrestler in the 225-pound range, you should be ready to come and fight in this division right now because a great wrestler would seem to have the ability to really eat at 205 right now. Okay, guys, so this is my favorite time of the year. The sports season is in full swing. The NFL's wrapping up. NBA is in the middle of the season. The UFC, we don't take a break.

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Last week Ben and I asked Does Leon Edwards have a responsibility To his division to fight one of the young Up and Coming guys as a former champion I have to ask you Is Dustin Porier in the same situation Does Dustin Porier First off

I was hoping and I didn't think Dustin was going to walk away I'm so happy that he's staying I didn't believe he was going to retire It's got way too much fight left in him I'm happy that he's made decisions to continue. But now it raises the question, does he owe a responsibility to the division to fight a young guy?

A Raphael Paziv. A gamrott. A Moikano said he doesn't want to fight him because he gives him problems in training. But does he owe that responsibility? Or do we see him in a fight with one of the names, right?

There are names now at 155 that he could fight that are but see, that's the thing, right? We've kind of seen him fight all these guys. Even the new guys like Max Holloway coming up to 155. We've already seen them fight. I think we've seen him fight twice. I think Max Holloway and Dustin has fought twice.

But would I be excited for it? Absolutely. Would I be excited for it for the BMF title? Absolutely. But they fought twice. So does Dustin owe that to his division to kind of go fight one of them young dudes? We saw Gaiji do it with Fazeve. We saw Dustin do it with Benoit Sandini.

So it's not like he hasn't paid it forward before in his career. He's paid it forward. But after fighting for the belt a third time, it doesn't seem as though a title fight is on the horizon. So what gets him excited? It's got to be something big because he's Dustin Poirier. But again, does he owe it to responsibility? Does he owe it to MMA?

Does he owe it to himself? fans and the fighters to give a shot a guy a shot or an opportunity to get there. The BMF championship is becoming almost a division in itself. At 155, you can almost make a BMF division with guys who are so well known but aren't truly contending for championships anymore. It could be very fun. Max Holloway, who still does have ability to go get a title fight. that 155.

Dustin, Chandler, Dan Hooker, all those guys could be fighting in that division, fighting amongst each other, and it would just continue to elevate the BMF championship. I don't even know

if the UFC ever thought that they could create that title and it could be what it's become because now you got guys that truly are looking forward to fighting for this belt. And as I think about it, I'm like,

what's getting Porreier back off his couch? He's got a lot of money. He's made a, he's, that's a lot of big fights. Is he going to fight at 170? He's a big guy. But don't forget, Dustin Poria at one point fought at 145. How many 170 pounders can truly make 145? He's not a 70 pounder.

He'd be a ballooned-up 155 pounder. So that leaves me to think it's 155. But who's he fight? There's some exciting guys, right? I think a fight with Dan Hooker would be funny. He fought again. There was a great fight in the middle of the pandemic. I think if I would a kid like Fazeeve would be fun.

I think if I would a guy like a Jalen Turner who's been on a little bit of a role would be fun. All those prospects, all those guys that are down there between the 12 to 15 range would be fun. And clearly I don't have the names right in front of me. But as soon as I get it, I'll read some of the names of the people in that range. And you'll be like, yeah, that'd be fun. That'd be fun. but again, does he owe that responsibility? And if he does or if we feel he does,

does it really matter to him? And does he feel like he's owed that? Because again, he didn't get that. Dustin didn't get that. No old guy gave him a shot. He just kind of made his way. All right, so you look at Darayush, Gamrod. Fazeva is at 11.

Sandinia is at 12. He fought him. Hey, Patty Pimlet, 13. Jalen, Turner, Joel Alvarez. I mean, at some point, those guys got to get an opportunity to fight someone. Isn't those guys like the Dustin Poriers, like the Michael Chandler's, like the Dan Hookers, like the Charles Olivaire, if it doesn't go his way, Justin Gehce, isn't those guys' responsibilities to fight those young guys?

You guys let me know in the comments. I don't know what Dustin's going to do. But what I do know is it's exciting that he's back in that big fight seemed to be on the horizon. but is it the established veteran? Is it something like a BMF championship fight? Is it something like a fight at Walterweight? Or is it Dustin Porte? You're looking at one of those young guys going,

hold on, young man. Not quite yet. I'm still here. Let me know your thoughts in those comments. Guys, 2025 is going to be a big year. And I'm so excited to be sharing it with you all. And thank you for all your continued support. Happy New Year, guys.

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