The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Daniel Cormier REACTS to Francis Ngannou RETURN TO BOXING after BRUTAL KNOCKOUT vs. Anthony Joshua

Episode Date: February 16, 2025

Francis Ngannou has just announced his next fight will be in BOXING, and not MMA, and Daniel Cormier is here to give you his INSTANT REACTION on the major news. DC explains why he believes Ngannou wants to return to boxing, and why it may be a big mistake for him after getting knocked out by Anthony Joshua. Cormier breaks down why a fight against Deontay Wilder is MORE DANGEROUS than the Joshua one was for Ngannou. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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ultimate fighter so i may not have been as into the news as i should have been but when speaking to this sports book review our boy francis and ghanu has made it known what his intentions are and what he wants to do next. And I don't know if I should say not surprising because he seemed happy when he was back in MMA, but, you know, he's going back to boxing. He said, I will do boxing next. I want that I want to.

I'm not done with boxing. It's not that MMA is easy. It's a sport that I understand better. I have more experience in, but I say I want to go for boxing. You know what this statement tells me, guys? There's just way more money in boxing. You know, the numbers we heard about Big Frank when he fought against Tyson Fury was crazy. Then he fights Anthony Joshua.

Guys, there are guys that go through fighting their entire life boxing, hoping to get one of those fights. Big Frank got him back to back. Now, we saw what happened in the Joshua fight, and I'll get into that a little bit later as to why I disagree with it, but Big Frank says he wants to do boxing. Tells me there's just far more money,

especially when every time he boxes, he fights in Saudi Arabia, guys, you saw what just happened with Jake Paul and Canelo Alvarez? Jake Paul seriously thought he had Canelo. then Sheik Turkey signed Canelo to a deal with the Saudi fund. I don't know what it's called, but it's the boxing authority, right? The money is so vast there. The opportunities to make big life-changing money is so big that they can get a guy like

Canelo to change course. Imagine the difference between what Francis is making in MMA and what Francis is making and boxing. But even with that being said, is that enough to put yourself back in a way or a spot where what happened last time could happen again? Francis went on to say, because there's an 80% chance

that somebody will go to sleep, Francis said. It will be one or the other. When talking to MMA fighting, he said, maybe not in his past two fights. but Deontes known as a guy that knocks everybody out or tries to knock you out. I'm going against that guy and I myself can knock someone out. Deep inside me, there is a little bit of an eagle like I know I hit harder. This is Francis speaking about Deonti Wilder.

He said from my experience that we will both have that ego. We will both want to prove. No, it's me. Who's the biggest hitter between the two? Those sorts of conversations are popping up around a little bit. And even though you think you don't care about it, it sticks somewhere in your mind. This is Francis talking.

You know, when Francis started doing fighting or boxing, he always was mentioned amongst those guys, the Deonté Wilders, the furies, the Joshua's. I always said, and I will never change this, I thought that the safest fight was Anthony Joshua because he can be a bit hesitant at times or in most cases. And I thought the most dangerous fight for Francis was Deonté Wilder, because Deonté Wilder, who I was on the Olympic team with,

is more free and he's also less technical. That's the nice way to say, Deontes Wilder's boxing style. He's less technical. So the punches may be loopy. He may throw them from odd angles, but he has this unbelievable power that allows you to go to sleep. And I thought that a technician,

a fury, a Joshua, there were people picking Francis over Joshua. And I love Francis, but not to insult him, Anthony Joshua felt so less of a threat that he, who is traditionally one of the most passive boxers in the world were heavyweight champion, went after Francis.

He didn't feel the threat because of the lack of experience that Francis had in boxing. So sure, he's going to make a boatload of money. He always does. But at what point do you go out? Because if you ask me, it would seem like he's up against it again.

And maybe, maybe he's just the biggest, baddest man on the planet like we all believe. And he doesn't care that he's up against it. And he wants to go and prove everyone wrong like he did the first time when he fought Tyson Fury. And he fought him to a very close fight. But we cannot ignore the visuals of what we saw the last time, especially when he came back to MMA and fought so well.

When he left boxing, after getting knocked out the way he did, everybody was like, okay, this Francis Ngano in boxing thing was fun. Let's see if he still has it in mixed martial arts. He comes back in fights for error, and he looks amazing. He looked like he could still be the best mixed martial arts that would wait in the world. But it can't be come back to MMA to regain some sort of momentum and take it back to boxing.

No, granted, he has that platform and he has the right to do whatever he wants, but as a person that considers Francis a friend, it's concerning, because I don't want to see him get knocked out. And that is such a possibility when he's fighting, right, and boxing, and he's comfortable,

he does really, really well. Here's where the problem starts. And this is what happened in the last, fight. When he knocked down Tyson Fury and we all went crazy because we're all rooted for Francis. I swore the guy we're all rooted for Francis. He looked like he belonged.

The only time he looked like he didn't belong was when he got hurt. Because when he got hurt, there are things that boxers do that we don't as mixed martial arts fighters because we never find ourselves in those positions. When we're hurt and fighting, we either

shoot, we go to the ground, we try to find safety. You can't do that in boxing. The boxes will grab onto you, hold onto you, they just constantly clinch. When Francis was hurt by Joshua, he didn't even clinch.

It was so unfamiliar. And you know what the biggest issue with that is? He can't simulate that. Because I don't know that there's anybody in the gym that could hurt him to the point that he needs to clinch. There's no one in the gym.

Hmm. Hmm. that could hurt him to the point that he needs to clench. He can't simulate it. So every time, or if he gets hurt, it's the first time. We don't see him hurt. It's got a granite chin. He's big. He's powerful. People don't hurt Francis Ngano.

But when it happened in the fight, he looked lost. And that's what's concerning to me. Because I know there will be moments in that fight with Deonti Wilder, the way that he punches, where he's going to need to. to find safety. How do you simulate that? How do you prepare? So, guys,

hats off to Francis. He has found an ability to make money hand over fists. And I mean millions and millions and millions. And he's going to collect millions of dollars again. What's the risk? I hope that Francis and Eric Nixick,

who is the man, who is going to train him up and get him prepared. Dewey is going to get him, and prepared. They're going to have him ready. I just hope that they can find a way to get him prepared for the bad if it comes. Because we've

never seen him deal with the bad until we saw him deal with the bad and we saw how bad that went. I don't want to see my buddy like that again. And honestly, there's a possibility that happened when you fight a guy like Deonté Wilde. He hits that hard.

Who wants to go fight? Because like 80% somebody's going to get knocked out. I don't want to get knocked out. I never wanted to get knocked out. Maybe they're just different men than I am. So, guys, enjoy your weekend.

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