The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Daniel Cormier REACTS to Islam Makhachev fighting Ilia Topuria or Jack Della Maddalena next

Episode Date: May 10, 2025

Ilia Topuria stole headlines letting people know Charles Oliveira or Islam Makhachev is next, and Dana White confirmed it! Daniel Cormier IS BACK to give his take on Islam Makhachev's next fight against Topuria or Jack Della Maddalena, and Topuria's pair of viral moments Thursday. DC breaks down why he thinks the UFC went to Dagestan, and why he too thinks this is officially the fight plan for both divisions at International Fight Week on June 28. Cormier also talks about Alex Pereira getting hacked on X, and why he believes it wasn't a hack, but his reaction to the UFC deciding to not give the title shot to Poatan, which DC agrees should be Pereira's fight. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Guys, press conferences. Okay. Generally, it's a bit mundane, and you go there and the guys kind of argue, sometimes you might get a shoving match. But the highs in most of these press conferences are from the fight that's happening right there, right now, and it's the bad blood between the two. Some of the more fun press conferences I've been a part of or have seen was, you know, Jones and I had some interesting press conferences. We threw things at each other down in Texas once. Habib leaving when Conner was late for a press conference was a fun one. When Connor called Jeremy Stevens, I said, who is that guy?

It was also an interesting one. But it's always usually surrounding the fights, right? Guys yelling going back and forth. Yesterday's press conference, it wasn't necessarily surrounding the fight. The big news was Dana White got put on the spot. And let me tell you something about Dana. He shared something. it. But he only shares

what he wants to. So while it may seem like he's put on the spot, he was forced to answer, that's not the case. Dana White knows what he wants to tell and what he's willing to tell. So by him answering this question, Dana, I don't know what the word said,

he's going to fight either Islam or Charles Olavera for the title in June, in a national fight week. Is this true? or is it accurate? Dana goes, that's pretty accurate, right? So essentially that clip that we saw of Ilya on that Spanish TV show,

speaking about his fight at international fight. The interviewer is asking Tuporia who he's fighting, but Tepore you're saying he doesn't know who yet, right? And he starts to kind of talk about matchups, and Ilya's like, well, trying to take me down and taking me down is two different things. We're going to see what happens. When I heard this earlier in the week, the reason we didn't do a video was because a lot of guys have been talking, right?

There's been a lot of talk surrounding lightweight, but nothing has really happened. Now something's happening. And this weekend's fight became much more interesting for a number of reasons. First off, Walterweight Championship in the world is on the line, so it's an important fight. But the result of this weekend dictates two different weight classes. Makachev has openly spoke about wanting to fight at 170. Charles Sondon said that many in the weight class already recognized that. When Islam comes left, take a step back.

He said he and Gary publicly stated that. What I didn't know is how close he was to actually get the opportunity to do that, to actually challenge for the World to Weight Champions in the world, and that the only roadblock was Belaw Muhammad. So when Belaw Muhammad said earlier this week, dude, just schedule your fight, it's all good, I'm winning. You didn't realize that Islam's literally standing on the doorstep of a championship fight. And the only reason he's not going in to fight is because his friend, Belal Muhammad, is the champion.

Jack Delamadalina wins this weekend. Islam's getting a title fight. That's what Dana told us last night. Dana told us last night at that pressure that if Mahathev and Delamadalina for the one, to a championship is a possibility they are taking that. And exactly what Iliate Tabori told you, he will then fight Charles Olivaura for the UFC Lightly Championship. Now, has anybody like been luckier than Dubranks? Because Dubrons actually lost his title shot. Shot went to Armand. Charles Gisbee by Armand. Beek Michael Chandler.

Armand is supposed to fight for the belt. In Steps, Moikano. Olivaer, then gets pushed to the back it feels like because then here comes Ilya Armand needs a shot. Now it's going to be him if Islamahadchev goes up. And if Islamahajev isn't able to go up and Balal retains the championship, now you get Ilya to Forya versus Islamakacha. Dude, this whole thing, right, is so exciting to me, not only as an insider of this thing, but as just a general fan.

Because now you have a, seriously, by saying five words, what Ilya said is pretty accurate. Ilya said was pretty accurate. Like five words. He said five words. And it literally involved five different fighters with like four potential outcomes.

That's crazy. You saw Hunter, Campbell in Dagestan earlier in the week. You knew that for him to go there, he had to be doing big business, big business, to travel all the way over there to speak with those guys. It feels like now we're finally getting closer to what's next. I know earlier, Akatsyev said, didn't want to fight to pour you. I wonder what those conversations were like to come to some sort of agreement to make

that fight happened if B'Law keeps the championship. I also found it very interesting that he was speaking this publicly, Mahadjah, saying, if Jack gets the belt, I want a title fight. Crazy, crazy turn of events in that regard. For Islam to be willing now, to change his mind, to me, different. I've said this time and time again. Normally, when these guys make a decision, they're very stern in the way that they behave

when it comes to that decision. Kabib still should be fighting today. But because he made a decision, he stuck with it. And now he's been retired in five years. It's crazy. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to hear that conversation in terms of how do we get you to fight

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So, International Fight Week, it's one of the biggest fight cards of the entire year. and we have been waiting to kind of understand and know what the hell is going on. How can it be so short that we don't know yet? Hell, I actually thought, guys, that not only did Hunter go there to talk to Islam, I thought Hunter was over there trying to talk to Mago Man on Kalaya and see if he might be available. And I'm still, I'm going to tell you this right now, I do believe that I love Alice forer, but I don't think it was hacked. I don't believe the hack story.

I believe that Alex Pereira probably got the news that someone else is going to fight for the belt, reacted. Then this thing with Makachev worked out to where it doesn't need to happen. So now he's okay. Hey, call me a rumor spreader to say I'm messy. I don't care. I think that he was presented a chance to fight on the international fight. Probably wasn't red. I'm not going to go fight a guy that just.

beat me when I'm not getting a full training camp. Okay, well, we're going to give the fight to someone else. He reacts. All the while this thing with Islam and Ilya and Bala and Jack and Charles, that's all in the works, right? It never stops. But when that comes to fruition, the 205 pound fight, okay, it's not necessarily needed. Okay? We're going to do this thing at 155, so you're fine. We can wait until you fight. I got hacked.

That's my opinion. Pereira might be mad at me. I don't know, but that's what I think happened if I'm being completely honest. But obviously, it all works well because Pereira does deserve

an opportunity to fight for it out. He should be next. So I'm glad that it worked out in the way that it did if that was the case. I'm turning into jail. I'm actually just telling you my opinions now at this point.

But when we do know for sure, I'll hit the poor he's fighting on June 28th, just like he said, he will stand across the oxyel. from either Islam Ocatchew or Charles O'Levara. Saturday became much more important for two weight classes. What's your preference? Tell me in the comments.

What's your preference? Is your preference on June 28th to see Islam versus Ilya or is your preference to see Islamahev stand across the octagon from Jack Delamatta, Adela, Atlanta down the line to become a two-division champion? Here's one thing that's become very apparent, though. the UFC is not doing double champs anymore. You've seen it. Ilya said he wanted to go up and fight for the belt.

He vacated. Islam's waiting for Saturday because if he decides he wants to go up and fight for the belt, he's going to have to vacate because Charles and Ilya will fight for that belt in June. The UFC has now taken a hard stance against double champions. They don't want one belt or one person holding up two weight classes. Not everybody's Amanda Nunes. Not everybody's willing to fight between two weight classes. It's a hard thing to do.

And you can tell they've taken that stance. That's why Islam's having to wait for Saturday's result. Saturday night, a lot of things will either change or stay the same with Belaw Mohammed versus Jack Delam Adelina, which has now become an even bigger fight than it was before. And I can't wait. Look, big news, press conferences. I used on going to watch them. Thank goodness I was watching it yesterday to see.

to get that question. But again, he didn't get tricked. He knew you'd be willing to share that. He's much too, like, sharp to get tricked in that way. All right, guys, hey, thank you so much for tuning in. As always, thank you to Total Wireless and all of our sponsors for always holding a boy DC down. Until next time, like, subscribe, and tell you friends about my YouTube channel and tell them that I'm doing things like this and my DC check-ins. Hey, and get ready for that Post-fight reaction on Saturday night. Because guess what? I'm going to have a lot to talk about. There's going to be some clarity between two-way classes after the fights this weekend.

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