The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Daniel Cormier REACTS to Jon Jones CRAZY comments towards Tom Aspinall: "I LIVED THIS BEEF!"

Episode Date: August 31, 2024

Daniel Cormier gives his INSTANT REACTION to Jon Jones' viral, now deleted, comment on Instagram taking shots at Tom Aspinall. DC GOES IN ON Jones and reveals exactly why he KNOWS Tom Aspinall is gett...ing to Jon Jones. Cormier also gives his hot take on Dana White's Instagram live on Wednesday that teased fights for Charles Oliveira, Max Holloway, Conor McGregor, Michael Chandler, and Alexander Volkanovski! And after living through the beef with Jones, DC sheds light on his rivalry with Jon and why he thinks Aspinall NEEDS this fight. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:59 They have done enough in the sport to where if they go, I want to fight John Jones, I get to fight John Jones. But Tom Aspinall, while I thought he completely fumbled the post-fight interview with me in Manchester, seems to be frustrated. And honestly, frustration might be good right now because in frustration, you start to really show your true feelings on the situation. Now, he was very respectful in that interview. but Chale and I had a discussion the other day about post-fight interviews, and what does respectful get you?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Doesn't really get you all that you want. Now, respects out the window with this dude, and he's just telling it how it is. But here's one thing about John Jones, and this could be from me because I know, because I'm a person that lived it with him. The thing about John Jones, he doesn't like disrespect.
Starting point is 00:06:04 he can't ignore it. He can't ignore when you take shots at him. That is why, as Chale said, it was very easy to get under his skin. Chale said he took his Halloween candy. He got a response. He ultimately got the fight. Everybody knew Chale was lying.
Starting point is 00:06:24 But he got John's attention because John felt disrespected. And we as fighters don't like being disrespected, especially one who has had as much success. as John Jones has had. And at the end of the day, John Jones is a champion, and he is a competitor.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So what happened today is, and it's long been deleted, but you guys know, man, you can't really delete things on the internet. So once it's out there, it's pretty much out there. So I got this off the Mac life. Who, by the way, does a phenomenal job.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Oscar does great work for the site and for their YouTube and everything else they do. So John writes, this dude literally has my large in his mouth every week. I'm flattered. I absolutely guarantee he will not win more world championships than me. That's truly all that matters at the end of the day. There's been many champions. No one like me.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I sleep good at night. To that, Tom Aspernel goes. John's right. He won so many world championships than me. He's won more world championships in me while using PEDs. guys guys it's brilliant it's brilliant because as you know through the whole course of the situation with john and i the one thing he always hated and the one thing that he wants to prove more than anything is that he did not do peds the one thing that he doesn't want on his
Starting point is 00:07:54 record is an asterisk to the point that when yusada said john jones's levels were low like on a pinch of salt in a swimming pool or something like that. He said, I beat Usada, which, as we have discussed, you didn't beat Usada. They just aren't saying, I don't remember what the fuck they said at the end of it. But he wanted to prove, I didn't do that. So Tom Aspinall attacking that part of what he has done will really make him jump in and go, I can't stand that dude. when somebody says they can't stand you, ultimately they choose to fight you.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Tom Aspinall now is finally, he's poked and he's poked and he's poked and he's poked. And while neither me or chale or anyone else that got under the skin of Jones as told him directly, this is the path. He finally has found the thing that will ultimately get him closer to that fight. Does that fight happen? I don't know. I don't know. And honestly, I don't know if it's in John's best interest to take this fight.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Because this kid's young. This kid's excited. This kid wants everything that he has had. And that makes him dangerous. And I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't have the same view of Tom Aspinall as Michael Bissping and some of those guys did initially. But I'm slowly starting to buy into the idea that this dude is the future of the heavyweight division. Now, I would love to see him in there with a show.
Starting point is 00:09:29 striker like Cyril Gahn or one of those other guys. But when I watch him, I think that he is something different than what we have seen in a very long time in the heavyweight division. Because while Francis and Gano was so great, he wasn't a well-rounded guy like you see in Tom Asphenol. Francis, while he was awesome, the one area that Steeper really did take advantage of was the wrestling. And we will not pretend that Francis is now some high-level wrestling guy.
Starting point is 00:09:59 even though he was able to out wrestle Cyril Gahn. This guy just seems to be next. He just seems to be next. And when you're speaking of retirement, as we have heard John do on many occasions, now you don't really want to see the guy that's next. You don't want to see that next generation because, like he has said multiple times,
Starting point is 00:10:24 I beat so many generations of fighters, and that he did. And that is what made him great. But can he go through four generations? He went through the Whoa Generation, Mauritio and those guys, those guys were the best. Then he went to the generation of guys like myself, who were the best at the time,
Starting point is 00:10:41 and Rashad and Gustafson. Then he went through the generation where he beat Dominic Reyes, and he beat Cyril Ghan, and he beat Tiago Santos. Santos, I think his name is. Those guys were that generation of fighters. He's been through three generations of fighters. Does he have enough in the tank to go through another generation of guys?
Starting point is 00:10:59 Does he? That would be a big ass for anyone. But when you look at this guy, this guy seems like, I don't know, especially when you're looking at fighting a guy that's 42 years old and hasn't fought in three and a half years. For a massive payday,
Starting point is 00:11:16 possibly the biggest payday of his career. Didn't he say like $15 million or something a while back? But I believe also ultimately, right now Tom Aspinall, while poking and prodding, finally has touched on the thing that will ultimately make John Jones go, my God, I cannot stand this dude. I need to deal with him.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Because when you accuse him of that, that's where he gets worked up. And at the end of the day, and it's not me, John doesn't live for it free in my head. John doesn't do this. John doesn't do it. At the end of the day, that's something valid to touch on because at the end of the day, he was accused and proven that he did those things. There's proof. There's proof.
Starting point is 00:12:01 So if I'm Tom Aspinall, I'm staying down this path. I am not getting off of it. I'm going to continue down this path, continue to mess with that to hopefully upset him. You know, Tom has also said he's going to be on reserve for New York City. A lot will be learned about these three heavyweights as we get closer to Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Because if somebody gets hurt and then the next guy doesn't want to fight Aspinall, it's a problem. It's different because do you call last year, Tom Aspinall was ready, or Sergei Pavlovich, honestly, was on standby for if someone got hurt. John got hurt. Stipe didn't fight Sergei Pavlovich. So to me, it just feels like these two legends want to fight each other and nobody else. Who am I or who has been Ascran? Who are we to judge the fact that these dudes have put in enough goodwill with the boss that they get to make a choice that they want to fight each other?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Dana seems so stubborn on this fight that I don't know if it changes. But Tom Aspinall sitting and waiting and Tom Aspinall saying, I will be in shape. I will be ready to go. And now having this, where they're having these types, hey, John Jones, when he gets mad and he starts to show his true self, he wants to insult you. and right now he's insulting Tom Aspenall by saying that he's blowing him every week, right? The insults get a little nastier. I know this because I lived it.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Nobody else can tell you this at this level because I lived it. I know what the insults look like when you start to get to him. I am telling you guys right now he is starting to get to him, starting to get to John Jones. And when you get to him, that's when you possibly get the fight. Hey, and look,
Starting point is 00:13:56 In my case, it didn't work out. I got what I wanted and it did not work out. We don't know what's going to happen with this dude. This dude's young. He's hungry. He's big as all can be. And he seems like he wants to fight this dude. So I'm interested to see what comes to this.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I'm interested to see what comes of this old John Jones, Tom Aspinall deal that seems to be picking up steam. And I'm here for it. I'm here for it. Dana White made a big announcement yesterday. talking about he's got big fights coming up for Chandler, Volk, Charles, and Connor, surprisingly. He said that Connor was not going to fight in this calendar year. There still is no card for December.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Vegas is where the fight card will take place in December. Connor McGregor needs to fight in Vegas. He will fight Michael Chandler seemingly. So it seems as though when the boss went public instead started to say, well, this guy's not fighting. It almost lit a fire in Connor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It seems like we're getting closer and closer. And then if you listen in the words, it said, Charles versus Volk. I've got big news. Charles versus Volk? Make that and sign me up if those two are fighting each other. Because that's one of those fights
Starting point is 00:15:23 that is guaranteed. to be explosive. Last thing. So I was with Umar and the mega met off the other day. I go, why don't you or why didn't you, just say I'll be the backup fighter for Al Jermaine Sterling versus, uh, no, not Al Jermaine Sterling. He's not the champ.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's, uh, Sean O'Malley versus Marab de Wattelishvili. He goes, why would I be the backup fighter when I am already the best in the world? That's his thought. That's his belief. So he's not going to be the backup guy, but as we know, there are backup fighters tied to every single fight in championship nowadays. Who's the guy? Who's the guy?
Starting point is 00:16:02 That's the question we should all be asking. Why are we not asking? Who's the backup fighter? Maraub weighed in whenever Al Jermaine fought Sean. Sergei was going to weigh in when Steve A was fighting John. Chandler, when he first got... Look at that thumb of thing that I always do. Chandler, when he first got here, weighed in.
Starting point is 00:16:24 in Abu Dhabi when Justin Khabi fought, I think that's what it was, our Islam versus Charles. There's always people that weigh in. So you know who it was? It was a, it was a, Gamrod, I think, was the backup when Islam fought last year against Volt. Or he was going to be the backup with Islam and Charles,
Starting point is 00:16:47 but then Volk ended up stepping in for him, which doesn't make much sense. If the backup fighter still available, why do you bring in another guy? It is what it is. There's always a backup. Why is Omar not on standby? Who's the backup for this fight at this fear?
Starting point is 00:17:01 That's the biggest fight card that they've ever paid for. There's got to be a backup. We need to find out who it is, guys. Hey, things are picking up at heavyweight. I think we're closer today to John Jones and Tom Aspinall fighting than we've ever been because I'm telling you, I don't know John Jones personally. I don't know him like that, but I do know him in beef. and in beef,
Starting point is 00:17:25 disrespect is always what gets you closer to fighting him. Tom Aspinall is being disrespectful now. And I think that is going to work to his advantage in terms of getting this fight. Even if John goes through and fights, Steve-A, he might stick around to try to deal with the Tom Aspinall issue if you're in the Tom,
Starting point is 00:17:42 if you're in the John Jones camp, the issue has become Tom Aspinall because of the disrespect. But, hey, I don't mind the disrespect. The disrespect makes the fight fun. And these two dudes are disrespecting each other and I'm here for. All right, guys.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Thank you as always for joining. I appreciate your love and support. Until next time, like, subscribe, and tell you friends about my YouTube channel because we drop it stuff like this. Hey, and only I know how to deal with Jones because I'm the only one that had real beef with him. Till next time, peace.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 00:18:36 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. others say it's unleashing human potential.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen it. the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:19:51 On The Look Back at it podcast For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to Look Back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hardway with your favorite therapist
Starting point is 00:20:25 and host, Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor? It signals to the world that you're not to be played with.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to. Listen to learn the hard way on the AHA radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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