The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - DC and Joaquin Buckley discuss their BEEF after Conor McGregor callout

Episode Date: October 5, 2024

Daniel Cormier begins his UFC 307 check-ins with Joaquin Buckley, where the two address their heated back-and-forth and shots fired over social media. DC and Buckley revisit the beef behind the Conor McGregor callout, and Cormier explains why he responded to Buckley on Twitter the way he did. DC and Joaquin also get into his fight against Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson and why he has to finish him to get an eventual title shot against Belal Muhammad. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah First off As I You know we've gone back and forth online And that's the thing right Like online it can be We can yell We can scream, we can do all these things

But when you see face-to-face we have to communicate Right we have to talk to each other So my question question to you is where did we get off track you or not I don't know I mean the be honest with you from the very start you know it's just off that post you know off of just what you said you know about the post-fight interview yes sir yes sir so I just feel like you are misquoted me that's all that was definitely about what I said about you know kind of McGregor you know and calling him out it's

okay this you said it was the worst call out you know what I'm saying all the time that's cool I don't care about that it was the other things that you said what else did I say you said that I called kind of McGregor's mother a bad name and I didn't do that. And honestly with that being said, it's just like everything that I got going on in my life, I got a lot of women that took care of me. My mother's taking care of me,

my grandmother's taking care of me, you know. So I didn't attack his mom or attack anybody that was close to him that was a female, you know. I just went at him and his father who got him into training and everything of that nature. But yeah, it was just a misquote, you know, misunderstanding. But then you both. When you posted it, you included me with Michael Bisping and Chal Sondon.

They didn't miss coach. That was just me. No, no, no, because everybody agreed. No, no, I seen Chal Sondon. He was talking on there as well. He said the same thing. And then Michael Bisbyn said the same thing on their own post. So I seen exactly what they said.

They said the same thing on that post. So we all as a collective. Yeah, as a collective. So here's the thing about that post fight. Yes, sir. Right? you call O'Connor McGregor

somebody told me yesterday and that's the thing like honestly you call out Kahnna McGregor we all start talking about it because of that if you did that as a point to get people talking

then it would have worked but then again it's just like we constantly go it was like we're constantly going back and forth about this stuff and then you get you seem to get mad but in this position

you can't get mad you can't get mad in this position it's like do we get judge daily for what we do when we're on this platform. No, but you still misunderstand. You misquoted me. But I didn't misquote you. So, okay.

I heard what you said. I don't know it by word now. I don't have the exact quote by word. Now I get, I can tell you what I said. Tell me. I said, Conn McGregor is a mickhole. That's what I said. So it's safe to say that his mama raised a hole.

But that's the problem, though. You can't be saying mama raised a hoto. Okay, why not? Because you're talking about. this dude's mom still. I'm not, that's disrespectful. That's the job that she did,

Joaquin. The job that she did is raise that man. Yes, sir. So that she did, you tell her, his mom did a bad job. I didn't call,

but I didn't call her a bad name. But you didn't call her a old. You didn't call her. And I get that. All right, there you go. As long as you can say, but I get that, but I get that, right,

but then that turns into you saying that our mom was raised hoes. Come on, man. We can't do that. Yeah. We don't do that. Like, we just don't do that. like we

we have to at times we just have to be careful because we don't know each other's situation one time John Jones and I who had the most bitter rival in this thing yeah of course one time he said I'm your fucking daddy that's what he said to yeah yeah right

and then he found out my father got murdered and he made Dana White message me to talk about that so saying a man mama raised a hole you don't know what that man mama did we don't know that like those are words that just can't be spewed out like that that's just me because i don't because because like we don't do that no i feel there's a couple things that i leave off of you go ahead the limits you know uh i don't talk about the dead and i don't talk about you know people kids you know but there's other things i feel like whatever i got to do

the cell of fight and get somebody's attention that's what i'm going to do but yet again though you know i feel like you just misquoted me now if people didn't like my approach to then that's cool I don't care about that but just keep it real and keep it honest that's not what I said so why do you why do you keep tagging me on shit then I love tagging you man you can see but still you keep tagging me constantly I'm like I feel like because now you're trolling me I'm not trolling I really like I got I got an open workout that I'm gonna do at 2 p.m. at David Bustling I love for you to come out so we can get some work in we can roll or something like that you know I mean

and it's not like I know like to be mean or whatever but you said that we could work we will work We will work, but we have never come across each other since. Like, I haven't seen you. That's why I tagged you in a lot of things and a lot of situations to let you know where I'm at. But it's not to be like on some trolling stuff. Like, you know, you don't want to do. That's what it feels like to me.

It feels like you trolling. Well, I apologize if that's how you feel. Yeah, that's how I take it. I'm sorry. It's all good, man. Anyhow, you're in this position now where you're gaining some traction. Yeah, a little bit. And you're going to be judged.

Were you surprised on the way that not only, because at the end of the day, bro, like at the end of the day, you could feel what you feel about us as the talking heads of this sport. Then the reaction from the fans, once it was said, right? Because then you and I start going back and forth online and shit and people are having comments and they're saying all these things. Like, were you surprised at the response that you got from the fans and in the community not only with, because I swear to God,

You know what was sad for me? Because I've known you played basketball together and all the shit. You know what was sad for me? Was that you've been fighting so well. And ultimately, after that fight, what you did so good, it turned, I'm looking at comments and turns into people just shitting on you for all this other shit when you're doing all this great work in Octagon. Yeah, I hear you, but it don't surprise me, though, you know.

At the end of the day, I feel like there's a lot that I still got to show. It's one thing that you said I mess with, you know, and it goes with the other fans. Like, it's not your responsibility to push me and put me in a position where, you know, yet again, it's just like you're giving your opinion, right? Regardless of how I feel about it, that's your true and honest opinion.

And I appreciate you for being your honest self if that's the truth. Did you hear all the positives that I said about you about the fight leading up to the post-flict? Yeah, I hear the puzzle, you know what I'm saying? But the negative always outweighs, you know, unfortunately. But I did hear the puzzle, you know, for sure,

but it was the negative that really was launched out there. And that's what everybody focused on. Everybody does. Yeah, exactly. That has to be frustrating. But again, it felt like when you said that, you said something to the effect of he puts over Khabib and all these dudes, but I've never seen D.C. put over a brother.

You're talking about teammates. These are my teammates. Yeah. I think the only kid was, what, Darren Win. Deron? Yeah, yeah, yeah, your son? Yeah, yeah. That's not my son, dog.

Don't disrespect that man, though. Don't disrespect that man. But the round went, Sean Bunch. Sean Bunch from your neck of the wood, Kansas City. Like I put on brothers, I just, these are my teammates y'all can you talk about. So I think that when we got, when we got crossed, it becomes anything to stay crossed. Opposed to kind of like, you know. But let's talk about your fight.

I appreciate that. Because this shit right here is like, it's all like noise, right? Because there's like, for me, it's all noise. Like, you and I ain't, we never go fight. No. You're a seven, you know, we'll never fight. No. So it's like, there's no point in me wasting the energy doing all this shit.

So let's get to the fight. And I hope you don't think that's what I'm trying to do anyway. I'm not trying to fight you physically in any type of way. Not trying to make you feel no type of way. But my thing is, though, I feel like at the end of the day, whatever negative thing is, because what you said was kind of harsh, bro, my man. You know what I'm saying? You call me a pussy and everything.

Absolutely. Right. Right. Right. Because absolutely. I didn't want to bring it up. No, because absolutely when you see anything about my mom, that's what you're going to get. You don't get Daniel the TV dude no more.

You don't get Daniel the TV do more. You get Daniel the dude from Lafayette. That's what you get. And I try to, I don't want to be that man, but that's what you get. At the end of the day, bro, I sweat a guy every time. 100% of the time. And I hear you on that. And that's cool.

But at the end of the day, I got to say something back as well. I understand. And so we went back and forth. So, very, very good. is right so when I come at you it's not like okay I'm trying to fight you but let's resolve this in the best way if we can talk it out that's cool too but if we can also train and get I feel like I'm always improve no matter what yes you know no matter what so if you bless me with some work and actually

training but absolutely and I would do that I would do that I would do that but again like any time like I sort of like dude I I don't you know how we mothers yeah trust in the black community yeah they all limits and it just it changes me and it's like this thing that and I wish immediately after I sent it I was like nah I should have never did that I wish I didn't do that if that's how you felt again because then you go to that other place and you keep shot I shouldn't do that I'm better than that I'm 45 years old yeah my man that's done a lot of things in my life all right guys so you remember when you were a kid you had those quick drinks well frog fuel is like that it's not your typical

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I think there's been a lot of changes. that has occurred, not just with my training and everything, but just me, myself, you know, just what I have to go through every single day, bro, the sacrifices I had to make, you know, being away from my family for about four years, going out to Michigan, you know, traveling, being with a certain team,

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a harder fight than Vicente, but he didn't have the name recognition. It wasn't hard in terms of how to fight, play it out. Yeah. But on paper, it seemed like it might be a harder fight because of whoever Sente is in his career. And that's the fight that I think you should get nothing the pat's on the back for because not only did you win right you were fighting striking but the wrestling the takedowns you did really well to make sure that you won in front of your home crowd thank you i appreciate that um it was a lot of pressure uh that was on my shoulders especially you know definitely hunting down dana definitely going out uh and really trying to you know put my name out there like hey put me on the st louis card put me on the same louis card i'm gonna be

be ready i'm gonna be ready and you know at first you know i thought i wasn't going to get the call but i was like man let me just keep working out keep training just in case and then, you know, we got that two weeks notice. And of course, you know, Rousa Boyev, a great fighter. I really feel like, you know, what, he was on, a 10-fight finishing street, you know what I mean, knocking dudes out, even in the UFC. Once they gave me that, you know, that task, you know, we had to go to work, you know, because I really didn't know much about Rousa Boyev, you know, except for that, you know, that fun fact that he was knocking dudes out. But once we did our homework, man, and I got with my solid foundation team, my man, Edrick Dillard,

Reggie Thompson, Travis Brown, you know, we developed the game plan in a short amount of time, and we showed out there. Is that why you stayed home for training camp this time? Because you were able to do that in two weeks? Yeah, I had to. It was no way that I was going to be able to be prepared at the level that I was prepared for that night if I would have left out. And plus, you know, I brought in my guy Heism Rita to help out for the camp as well,

who also was a big benefit into why I won. But you stayed at home. camp too, right? Or did you go back to Michigan? No, no, no, I was in St. Louis. But, yeah. So I skipped around for this training camp, and yet again, it's me right now. There's no head coach in my team. Why do you think, why do you think that's important? I don't think, I don't think having a head coach is important.

I think, I believe in my personal opinion, it's finding teachers and coaches that can train you in the aspects of how you want to be trained. and I've been able to pretty much navigate my career for a long time, you know, before I even got into Michigan and I got myself into the UFC, right, with my boy, Edric Dillard, and he was the only person that was in my corner, but it's not like he was my coach. It's somebody that, you know, I trusted, who's my teammate, you know, and any time I needed to get some work in, we'll work together, you know,

and he is the one that helped me get into the UFC. But all the training and all the process that I've been going through, you know, I really meant just building that shit up on my own. Yeah. But I get the right people around me. Any information I ain't got, I seek it, you know what I mean? And I grasp it and I take it and I just put it into my game. So I really don't think it's necessary to have a head coach,

but just have people that, you know, are like-minded and have the same vision in order for you to, you know, get exactly where you're trying to go. So Stephen Wonderboy Thompson is as tricky a fighter we've ever had in the UFC in the history of the UFC. Mm-hmm. he believes that in this fight this weekend your ego is going to play a fact that they make cost you know because he said it your ego yeah so he said your ego because at times right like we all have them we all have of course you don't hide that you have an ego are you ashamed of it yeah but he's saying that that will be the thing that might actually cost you because he said you may think that you could play his game and still win I could play his game and still win I could play his game and still win

but my thing is I want to make it as hard for Wonder Boy as possible and a lot of people ask like like how did you prepare how did you train for this fight for Wonder Boy and at first I was so focused on him and how his style is his karate his bladed style and whatnot and you know I went out to Texas for a short time to train with Raymond Daniels yeah I know didn't get connected with him unfortunately at the time so I was kind of like you know damn kind of bummed out but regardless though it made me enforce me just to focus on what I do yes you know and then we can see like which version of who is gonna be better in

that cage because my thing is as much as people call him a puzzle who is he training with that is compared to me you know that is as explosive leave my footwork my in and out and then also the power that I you know possessed so thank you so at the end of the day we definitely just gonna see you know who's able to you know really really show out in that case. Shavkat Rockmanoff seems like the guy that's going to fight for the belt. Next, you said, you think Balaw will expose him.

Shafqqad was able to finish Wonderboy. Because you're on this run now, Joaquin, you're starting to work your way into those conversations. Is there an emphasis on not only winning but dominating Stephen Wonderboy Thompson? Because we have seen, now, Jack, dominate Gilbert.

Yeah. And we have seen Shavkat dominate Wonderboy. So if you're going to be held in that same, you know, regard, do you have to dominate Wonderboy? Can you just win? No, no, I got to get the old buddy up out of there. 42 years old, you know, no respect to the OG. But, you know, I think Wonder Boy has done all of what he can do in the UFC.

You know, he didn't fought for the title. He's been, you know, highly ranked. This is the lowest he's ever been ranked in a very, very long time, you know. But it's cool just to get that name, which Wonderboy has. But going out there and putting on the dominant performance, I think it's going to be everything. Why do you think Shavka's going to get dominated by the law? He's 19 in all 19 finishes. What that means?

That's crazy, dude. To win 19 in a row and finish, all 19 is crazy. It's crazy work, but, you know, when you do your homework and you see... Oh, you watch them. You watch everybody. You've seen something in him? You've seen it, too. I've never seen it.

All I see is them fucking people love. I feel, yeah. All I see and fucking beat. That's all I see. That's all I see. You got to look in between that, you know. Just like the Ruzzo Boyer fight. He was effing up a lot of people too, but we saw a lot of holes.

We saw a lot of holes in him. What's your prediction for the fight this weekend before I get you out there? For myself or just overall. Just overall fight, how's this in? With my hand raised for sure, yeah. Knock him out, submit him, what do you think? Oh, he got to go. He's going to get finished, but it depends on what Wonderboy,

how he want to get finished. Yeah, yeah. Guys, Joaquin Buckley fights at UFC 307 in the featured prelim against Stephen Wonderboy Thompson Make sure you're tapping to everything he's doing Go to his X Instagram

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