The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - DC CALLS FOR Jon Jones on White House Card, Conor McGregor vs. Michael Chandler

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Conor McGregor announced that he will fight Michael Chandler on the UFC's White House Card, but Daniel Cormier argues that despite that being the fight to make, Jon Jones NEEDS TO ALSO be on that White House card in 2026. DC breaks down why Chandler is the only opponent for McGregor. Plus, hear why Cormier thinks, despite their bad blood, Jones absolutely deserves a chance to fight in June of next year on the White House card. And DC gives his thoughts on the first images of what the event will look like in Washington D.C.! #Volume All lines provided by ‪@hardrockbet‬See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We saw the first renderings of what the UFC is going to look like at the White House, and it looked insane. The fact that we're actually doing the UFC at the White House is the craziest thing of all time. And honestly, like we talked about before, only President Trump and Dana White could make something like this happen, because otherwise it would be just a ridiculous thought. But honestly, ridiculous thoughts work. But not only are we going to the White House, we also have an idea of, who may be fighting at the White House. So today's episode is brought to you by Total Wireless,

the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in your corner with unlimited 5G data that will not slow you down. So we're going to the White House in July, 4th of July Independence Day. You know, for a long time, we spoke about Noce, UFC, and how it was a great old to the Hispanic culture,

the Mexican culture. It's been and become one of the greatest, events in the UFC's year of the calendar. I always question why don't we tip our hat to the United States of America? That feels like what we're going to do when we get to the White House next July. But then I hear Connor McGregor is going to fight against Michael Chandler as one of the fights. I have spoken about Michael Chandler versus Conner McGregor for so long because it's supposed to happen two years ago. Cona McGregor has been kind of pulling our chain, leading us along as if he's going to come back when it doesn't feel like he has any intention on truly

coming back and fighting in the UFC. But if he does, Michael Chandler would be the opponent. I was speaking to Sean Shelby the other day at Nocha UFC and one of the younger guys had called out Michael Chandler and I said to Sean, I go, I don't think Chandler would do it. He goes, no, he goes, Chandler wants only big things. I believe that that would qualify as the type of big thing that Michael Chandler would want to be a part of. Not only the fact that he's probably one of the most patriotic human beings I've ever met my entire life, but to finally get to fight McGregor,

to get to do it at the White House, to be a part of something historic, you know that Chandler would be all in on that. When it comes to the matchup, you guys know what I feel. I feel like if there is a matchup for Conno McGregor to come back to, it is this one because Chandler will be more than willing to stand in a pocket and fight McGregor. And obviously we know when people do that, we know what happens. Kana McGregor has been very, very successful against guys that don't use wrestling or the wrestling threat as a real problem for him.

If you stand in trade, he can be very dangerous. Obviously, he still has a lot of work to do in terms of his recovery. And what does that injury do for you mentally? I remember talking to Chris Wydenman. Wyman told me that every intention he had before going into that fight, his return fight, was to throw a leg kick right away. But he said the moment he got in there, he was like scared to do it. And he never threw that kick.

And ultimately, he ended up getting kicked. And then Brad Tavares ended up beating down his other leg to the point that he could barely stand. So what toll does the injury take on McGregor? when he returns and how much will Chandler be willing to use leg kicks as a game plan to try and give McGregor real problems? I heard the weigh-ins are going to be at the Lincoln Memorial or something like that. That's crazy. It's crazy.

And I get to be there. That's the best part about it. Like, I'm so lucky to have the job that I have that when they go to the White House to fight, I'm going to be there. It's a year away Before this event And we're already talking about What potentially could happen as a fight

You know what's the most telling thing to me though It's like Connor McGregor has not fought Since 2002 When he broke his leg Or 21 or something John Jones has Stated publicly He wants to fight at the White House

He tells anyone that'll listen Even last week he was at the Grammys or some shit like that And he was on the red carpet speaking about how he's back testing and he's ready to fight at the White House. But Dana seems more stern in not letting him today than I have ever seen him in regards to John Jones. I remember when he canceled that fight against Chale. Dana said he'll never headline again.

Well, he headlined against me twice. We're supposed to be headlining events five times. He headlined against Gustafson, Gustafson, Cyril Gond, and so many other people. This time he seems like he is not going to. back down and allow for him to be on this White House card. And if I'm being completely honest, I don't know that I agree. I think I would let him fight.

I think if he wants to fight, I would let him fight because for as much as mixed martial arts is a global sport, and it's a sport that everybody loves and we support people from all around the world. At the end of the day, when we're fighting at the White House, you want American people that can win at the end of the night

Noce UFC last week in San Antonio had eight six Mexican-born fighters they won all six fights they had three American fighters of Mexican descent and they all won it felt good

for the people leaving the arena that night because the people that they went to support had all found success imagine if we're on the White House lawn and the Americans aren't winning fights. And that could happen because when the opening line from McGregor versus Chandler comes out,

Chandler's going to be a pretty substantial underdog, as he should be, even though Connor hasn't fought in forever. He will still be the favorite to beat Michael Chandler. But if you put John Jones against Tom Aspinall, for what everybody says that Tom Aspenol is the guys to beat him, when that line opens, I bet John Jones is still going to be the favorite. He'll still be favored to beat Tom Aspinall.

He'll be the guy that's the world champion, or at least was the world champion before he vacated his title and retired. So he'll still be favored to win that fight. I believe that you've got to let him fight, man. I think that you put some things in his contract that makes it very costly to not follow through. You understand? So if you put John Jones

on the White House card. Say something happens in the law, and he has to be pulled off the card, a million dollars. Say he just says he doesn't want to fight a million dollars. Say he doesn't, say he gets injured. Then it should be less, as long as the injury can be proven. If the injury is proven, charge him nothing. He's just a normal fighter that got hurt in training camp.

But you put these safeguards in place to make sure that he shows up there. Because one, you pick a card with him and Connie McGregor, massive, massive eyes will be on that card. And two, you put American guy in there in the main event that has a real chance to win the fight and send everyone home feeling very good. It's why the good guys win at the end of movies. Because they want people to feel good leaving the theater, except for a million-dollar baby, which was a bullshit movie because that woman died or something. something at the end of the movie and I hated the way I felt when I left. Nobody goes to the

movies for that shit, man. We go to the movies to see stuff and feel good when we leave. And I think that the White House card deserves a chance for that to happen. Because think about, hey, we have no American guys in the top 10 pound for pound right now since John Jones retired. That's crazy. Come on. Come on, boss. It's me asking you to give John Jones a chance. That's crazy. So, all right, but the renderings are sick. White House is going to be nuts and the boy's going to be there. So, let's go. Until next time, guys, like, subscribe, tell your friend to tell their friends that D.C.'s got a YouTube channel.

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Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to SportsSlic on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. and at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs' tennis podcast for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris.

She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lerner-Rabachina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcasts on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. This is an IHeart podcast, guaranteed human.