The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - DC CONVINCED Islam Makhachev vs. Ilia Topuria superfight is COMING SOON, Khabib on Ilia

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

Daniel Cormier IS BACK with his INSTANT REACTION to the biggest news in MMA and the UFC! Cormier talks about Khabib Nurmagomedov's recent viral comments on why he believes Arman Tsarukyan is the best lightweight in the World, despite the champion title belonging to Ilia Topuria. DC breaks down the Khabib analysis, and goes in on why despite the accurate breakdown, this fight is much more even between Arman and Ilia. Plus, Cormier gets into Islam Makhachev being asked about the Ilia Topuria fight, and why his answer to the fan's question means it's only a matter of time before we get this superfight! #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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presented by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in your corner with unlimited 5G data that will not slow you down. So I've been away a little bit, you know, kind of getting my, my fight team going and everything and we've been working. But I've got to tell you guys, I didn't even imagine that it would go as fast as it has. We've got three guys fighting contended series, one guy fighting Noche UFC with so many more on the verge of getting a chance to break through and getting to the UFC. So very happy coach right now. Another happy coach is my friend Habibner-Megamatov because why wouldn't he be? When you are coaching some of the best fighters in the world and a great team as a coach,

you can ask for nothing more. But there's only one prize pupil of team Habib, and that's Islam Makachev. Islam Machicev is the UFC or was the UFC lightweight champion. Now, Islam obviously is fighting for the wealth weight title against Jack Delamadena in New York, if you are to believe what Habib said at his last sit down. Habib has a lot of thoughts on not only is, Islam in his career and influence, but he also has a lot of thoughts on the 155 pound division as a whole of the division that he once ruled with an iron fist, who is now, which is now ruled

by the new champion, Ilya Teporia. We have spoke so much about all the confusion at 155, all the issues at light wage, especially with the new champ and then the old champ going up and, and Patty going into the octagon. when he wasn't supposed to and all these other things. But when asked, straight up, who Habib thought the best lightweight in the world was, he said, without a question,

without a question, it was Armand Sirukion, right? Stating, I don't believe that Ili would have much of a chance, he told Camille Gadsieff, championship rounds. Armand fights too well at range. against strikers he keeps his distance well works better with his kicks and now

Armand's improved a lot he has footage that he can study and analyze if they fought three years ago maybe he would have been cautious but now you can clearly see what dangers to pour your brings I believe that right now Armand Syruquian is the best lightweight in the world I understand that I understand all that he said right because That's not just Habib not liking Ilya. That's not Habib just saying something that is against the guy that his prized people seems to have an issue with. This is a pretty good breakdown.

Here's where I differentiate from him when it comes to the thought. All we've seen Ili to pour you do is beat people up. And honestly, for as much better as Armand's gotten, I've gotten better too. Now, I am I by no mean saying, that Armand cannot fight Iliate Tuporia, and he might be the best lightweight in the world. But Tuporia has the belt now,

and because of that, and the way that he looked doing it, Iliate Tuporia is the best lightweight in the world to me. Why? Because common opponents, I know MMA math doesn't work, but in common opponents, Iliate Tuporia did away with Charles Olaver. Say Charles Olavera fought the wrong fight, whatever. But he had moments against Armand Thurukia.

He never looked in the fight with Iliu, and honestly, Not many people have. Max Holloway fought well at the beginning of the first round. Josh Emmett had no chance. He just got beat on the whole time. Very few people. The worst we saw was when the kid from England,

Jai Herbert, dropped Ilya. But then ultimately, he got up and he finished him. The poor is tough. He's very, very good. So that's why I disagree. But for the most part, I do agree with his assessment. Armand's much better today than he was before. Armine has improved tremendously. Armine's big and physical so that could be an issue.

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big he's a real lightweight that could provide possess some skills that could potentially be an issue the armand has good elbows on the ground very good elbows he can grapple submit take the back I'd say it's 80-20 in Armand's favor his wrestling pressure physicality all of that matters he's tall about almost 10 centimeters if I'm not mistaken he's heavier and on fighting night he'll be the bigger man and of course wrestling plays a huge role especially in fights like this this part of abeem's assessment outside of the 80 20 armagh that's more of a 50 50 60 40 uh fight but uh outside of that i agree with the assessment i believe that there are issues to be had

for toporia sarukin can present him because he has good wrestling I know, like I said, I've been told Tuporia has better wrestling grappling. He does most other things, but all I've seen him do is knocking people out. I haven't seen him deal with a wrestler at the caliber of Armand's Rukyan. Josh I'mad's a good wrestler, but he's not Armand. He's not as big. He's not as physical. He doesn't present the same skill set and problems that Armand's Rukyan could potentially present for Iliot Teporia.

So yes, I agree there. 80-20 is crazy, though. Come on, man. 80-20 is hard when anyone's fighting. 80-20, the only time 80-20 could be thought of in fights has been in the case of Khabib and John Jones. They're the only people that have gone through this whole thing without losing. They are the only two.

So you could have possibly said, well, yeah, it's probably 80% that guy's way. Because they never lose. But guess who else has lost? I'll eat to pour you. So to put him on the opposite side of that 80, 20 is crazy to me. I don't believe that for one second. I really do disagree with Habib on that one. That's one that I, there is not a guy in the world that I believe is going to beat I

to pour you eight out of ten times. That's just the truth. So, and I'm looking down at my notes here, Islam was doing a Q&A the other day. A fan asked him, could you please come back? and deal with Iliate Tupori and Islam said, as you wish. So it feels to me, especially when hearing what I heard from Islam himself,

my superfight is with Iliate Tuporia and not Hamzaa Tchama. It feels to me like we're closer to that becoming a reality than we might have been before. Before, I don't know that we were going to get Iliate Teporia versus, Islam Akachev. But now it feels like we really are starting to work our way towards those guys getting locked aside in Akhtan. And that can be something as simple as Islam going,

absolutely I'll do it. You're my pleasure. Take care of Ilya. My pleasure. What I would fight with Hamz, I'd be more intriguing. No, I would rather fight to pour you. That's the fight. We'll be fighting for a number of pound-pon spot.

It just seems to me like Islam is more and more open to the idea that he's going to fight Ily Tupori and I know that Ili Tupori wants this. So there's more movement in that regard in terms of these guys finally fighting and coming together. I just don't know how soon it could happen. Dude, Islam's got a big fight with Jack Dela. Even Khabib said, hey, this guy is very good. He's seen everything. He's a very difficult opponent for Islam.

I know what challenges we face. And we know that Ilya Tuporia, it's going to be Patty Pimlet or Armand Sarukyan. And there's no guarantee to get through those. It's a very tough time. But at least they're speaking of each other. Before we had Iliad talking and Islam kind of no selling him and ignoring him now, we have both of them talking.

And when they both start talking, that makes for a dynamic that tells us that those guys are maybe about to fight. or at least they're open to fighting. And that's what we want when you got two the best fighters in the world in the same weight class. Guys, thank you so much for supporting me.

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