The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - DC REACTS to Jon Jones calling Tom Aspinall "INCREDIBLY OVERRATED" vs. Ciryl Gane

Episode Date: November 9, 2025

Jon Jones went on the record to call Tom Aspinall "INCREDIBLY OVERRATED" after seeing him fight one round against Ciryl Gane in the heavyweight championship fight that was ruled a no contest. Daniel Cormier gives his take on Jones' comments, and reveals EXACTLY WHY Jon is saying those things about Tom. DC says Jon isn't telling the whole truth because Tom is still technically his competition since Jones came back to the UFC and MMA from retirement. Don't miss Cormier's unfiltered take on Jones' viral video and what he thought of the Aspinall-Gane fight! All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to a brand new episode at Daniel Cormier TV brought to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in your corner with a limited 5G data that will not slow you down. So when Tom Aspernel got poked in the eye by Cyril gone, we started to operate with the expectation that John Jones, I'm saying we and me in terms of me, chill, Sunning,

the talking heads of the sport, we started to kind of talk or think that John Jones would have opinions. Obviously he has. So he now started to talk about Tom Aspinall before it was kind of subtle, right? He changed, actually it wasn't subtle. It was very forward. in the way that he approached Aspenol, but he didn't approach Aspinall

with words. First, it was a social media profile photo of him as the duck. Next thing you know, there's an eye patch on the duck. Same night, right? That's John going to Tom. Then John goes to dirty boxing, and he's on the horse,

and he's wearing the eye patch. That's another shot. at Tom Aspinall. But finally now, John is speaking about Tom Aspinall. One thing you guys have to understand about this whole thing, though, when John Jones is getting called a duck, right? When John Jones is getting told that Tom Aspinall is the guy that's going to beat him, he's sitting back hoping that something happens to give him a reason to go and downplay that.

We spoke about it prior to the fight. I told you guys if Cyril Gan won, John O'Connor would constantly go, that's the guy he thought was going to beat me. I don't know that that finish isn't more satisfying to a guy like Jones. Because now he can almost guess what would have happened, even if that might not be true.

Tom Aspinall, make no mistake about it, Cyril Gan was finding a lot of success in round one. more than many people thought that he was going to. But Cyril could either continue to build or Tom could have completely settled himself and turned that around. Guys, that was a four-minute round of a fight. That's it. They did not fight a long fight to really form an opinion.

He couldn't really form an opinion as strongly as so many have. I think the reason they formed an opinion in the strong way that they did because they've never seen Tom struggle at all. But I told you before the fight, this was easily going to be the hardest thing he'd ever done. Anyhow, Jones now is saying

that Tom Aspinall isn't who you or we all said that he is. he was speaking, Luis, who was he talking to? He was talking to the No Scripts podcast, and he said, hey, Tom is a bit of a one-trick pony. He's a great athlete, but I think he's a one-trick pony.

I believe his wrestling and his jiu-jitsu are incredibly overrated. He has a beautiful one-two combination. I got to learn a lot about his patterns in his last fight. That's really about it. That's the one thing that he's setting up real nice. He couldn't touch Cyril Gond.

That's the way that I felt. And there's a lot in there, right? Look, guys, Tom Aspinall does have a great one, two. Tom Aspinall's one-two is the combination that he has finished all those fights with. It's not, Tom's not hitting guys with left hooks. He's not hitting them with uppercuts. He's throwing a one-two, but he's so far. fast and he sets it up so well with his footwork and ability that most of these heavyweights

can't see it and they can't time it enough to either counter it or just avoid it. They get hit and time it's so hard that he knocks people out with it. Jones said in that fight he was able to pick up on a lot of his patterns. Again, guys, it was four minutes. It's four minutes. We don't know what the next 21. one minutes would have looked like. We just don't.

We just don't. But we as fighters, when we are watching someone that's a potential opponent or someone that becomes your opponent, you look for holes. You don't give them credit for the things that they do. And that's why I feel that the moment I started doing television in 2012, and I was tasked with calling these guys' fights and working. at the desk and trying to be as neutral as I possibly could, I became a better fighter. Because I was calling Volcano's very first fight when he got into the U.S.

and I think he fought OSP. I called that fight. So I'm watching this young kid, right, that's doing all these things well. And I was like giving him credit for doing those things well. when he became my opponent later, I still had to recall the credit I gave him for the things that he did well instead of watching that same fight in finding only holes in his game. Because those aren't real. They're not real. But that's what Jones is doing. Jones is watching Aspernel only as a potential opponent. So in that, he's going, well, that's bad. And this is bad. Well, he doesn't

doesn't do this very well. Then he finds that one thing he can give him credit for. But everything else sucks, right? The jiu-jitsu sucks. The wrestling sucks. This is a good one, two. It's hard because he can't turn that off. He can't turn off that one day he may fight Tom Aspinall.

But you have to look at it with a clear mind. But again, commentary taught me that, not me the fighter. because I could never give guys credit before I started calling their fights. I called Anthony Johnson's last fight against Alexander Gustafin before we fought for the title. And I remember being so impressed when he beat him. And I remember watching him beat Phil Davis and going, wow, Anthony's gotten so much better. He does this well.

He does this well. He does this well. So when I got in the octagon, I'm like, well, I got to avoid this, this, this, because I know how good he is at it. Maybe Tom Aspinall isn't what John built him up to be in his mind prior to that fight. But I don't know that we saw enough to form an opinion of his overall game in four minutes. It's just the truth. It's just the truth. Those then went on to say, let me see here, I'm trying to find it.

He said he couldn't touch Cyril at all. That's the way I felt. I felt God was getting warmed up. His hands were down. He was shaking his shoulders. He was bouncing around touching him. He was so comfortable. That all is true. That's all true. I thought Cyril looked really good. He's bouncing. He's moving. He looked like he was gaining in confidence. He looked like he was gaining in confidence. But are we ready to say that that was going to happen for 25 minutes? Cyril God's a big guy. To be able to move like that for 25 minutes is hard.

Maybe he could. We see him do it at times. He was going to be pressed. But I don't know that we saw enough to form that strong an opinion. Or maybe I'm just hating on Jones. I don't know. I don't know. But I need you guys to help me with it.

So in those comments, let me know. Is John Jones being a little bit too harsh? Like, can we really form that strong in opinion based on four minutes? Does Tom Aspinall not deserve a little grace? And are we reacting only in this way? Because we've never seen him struggle at all. And also, how much could you struggle in four minutes? He had a bloody nose.

I think because he had that bloody nose, it made people feel, oh, my God, this dude's in trouble. But again, you're still 21 minutes left in a fight. I watch how Beebner-Megov lose a round to Justin Gagey and end up submitting them afterwards and overtaking the fight. A lot can change between minute four and minute seven, nine, 15, 21, all the way to 25. You guys get the point. Can we make that strong an opinion of that fight based on four minutes?

All right? You guys, let me know. Let me know those comments. Let's get that debate going on that. Until next time, guys, like, subscribe and tell you friends about my YouTube channel. Peace. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends.

Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless, and at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French fame. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lerner-Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the Iheart Radio app. podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I Heart Women's Sports. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the same.

stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicalif 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on, a Mormon polygamist, and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me?

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