The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Dustin Poirier tells DC he's ready for a "dog fight" with Justin Gaethje

Episode Date: July 29, 2023

Dustin Poirier tells DC that this fight with Justin Gaethje at UFC 291 "isn't a rematch" in his eyes. The Diamond gives Daniel Cormier the inside scoop on why he won't take as much damage from Gaethje... has he did in the previous showdown between the two lightweight superstars. Plus, DP talks legacy and what it means to be following up the first BMF fight between Jorge Masvidal and Nate Diaz. And don't miss Dustin Poirier's take on what was wrong with Charles Oliveira in his first fight with Islam Makhachev. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:50 excited, BMF championship, Justin Gathe, number two. How are you feeling and how was the preparation as you got ready for this rematch? I feel great. Preparation was great. My team was great, but I approached it like a different fight. Really? Yeah. I didn't approach it like a rematch. Did you watch the first fight? Because everybody keeps going, these guys fought before. I'm like, it was so long ago, but you can't erase that. It actually happened. It happened.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yeah. Did you watch it? We watched it the first week I got into camp just because my boxing coach wanted to watch it. And then whenever the countdown show was in, they made me watch it again. But that's the only times. I never went back and watched it at night. I watched this Faze fight a lot, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Why? Why that fight? Why didn't you watch it again? It's a different fight. We're both completely different fighters. But we both still have that, it's dog fight potential. Yeah. Any round.
Starting point is 00:03:44 But I think we're both much more mature, methodical, technical, but we'll see. How much more confidence? Because this is kind of like what I've been saying. I feel like for as much as you guys have elevated your skill set, your confidence because you had those moments wearing UFC championships is probably what's the most glaring growth in regards to you. Like, how much more confident do you feel today as an athlete, opposed to back then in 2018? I mean, I've proven myself time and time again since that fight, so of course I'm confident. I trust my abilities.
Starting point is 00:04:19 But he does as well, I'm sure. D.P., Justin Gaitie did a great job in the physique fight with the jab. That is what fought. That got him back into the fight. But because you're a south ball, that's a less effective weapon. And because he was trying to throw the kicks and, you know, you know, you know, you know, that's a lot of the fight. and that's when you counted them with the straight left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:39 What have you done to try to make sure that you don't have to take that level of damage to the legs before you get them with something? Like, what have you changed in your preparation? I invested in my defense. You know, me and Tiago Alves, day after day, week after week, for the last two months, have been checking kicks, countering kicks, working takedowns off of kicks, just, you know, working on ways to avoid that. Yeah, it's been a while since you fought, right?
Starting point is 00:05:05 November. Yeah, Michael Chandler kept taking you down. When he kept taking you down and then you ultimately submitted him, he showed your black belt, right? You showed that you, you know, you have that black belt. When you were able to start to control it on the ground, like when you think about that fighting the guy like Chandler who has that All-American background, he didn't really want to stand with you. Do you anticipate Gaichi maybe going, I need to wrestle this dude a little bit because it's so dangerous when they're trying to strike with you. I'm not sure. I think Gaichi's a little bit better strike.
Starting point is 00:05:35 than Chandler, not as explosive, but probably just as much, if not more power, willing to take risk just like Chandler was. But, I mean, Gachie fought a striker his last fight, and he wasn't diving for his ankles. You know, he shot a few times, bad shots, right? I might have. But he got him down in the fifth round or the third round, you know. Some bad shots, D.B. There was no.
Starting point is 00:05:56 What happened? You don't wrestle enough until now you don't forgot. I don't know. I don't know, but there was some bad shots. But he finished one in the third round. Yeah. And we'll see. If he does do that, you know, I think my defense will hold up.
Starting point is 00:06:08 My wrestling will hold up. And if it doesn't, he's got to deal with my jihitsu. You know, the BMF championship, and I kind of asked Justin about this, the BMF championship. I know Mazvedal is one of your friends and Nate Diaz, but these are guys that have double-digit losses over the course of their careers. You and Justin Gaichi are championship caliber fighters. I don't know if you guys have 10 fights lost combined. But because you're championship level fighters, do you feel like it's elevated that championship? Like now it's not some Islam.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Islam said it was a fight. It was a title for the bums. It's not now, right? Because you guys aren't bums, your championship level fighters. Do you feel like that belt's elevated now so it means more this Saturday? I'm not putting a whole lot. It's cool and it's a cool part of my legacy, you know, winning this belt. That'll be something fun to talk about.
Starting point is 00:07:00 but I'm not trying to legitimize it or it is what it is. You know, just to have your name in the hat to be considered for a fight, like a BMF fight. You know, you've put it on and bled and done some crazy stuff throughout the years to put yourself in that position. So I think that's more, winning the belt is obviously the big prize. But I think being in the fight, the second ever BMF fight is like that's a prize in itself. Because people respect, you know, the fans want to see us fight. And that's why this fight is what it is. And this fight means something now.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Because whoever wins this will be next for Islam versus Olavera winning. You would imagine, right? UFC hasn't told me, but I would, I mean, we're number two and three. Number one's fighting for the belt. We're both coming off a wins. Our course came back around full circle, and we're going to do it. Like you said, you haven't fought this last November. When this, before Olavera got announced, were you thinking in your mind that I can turn around?
Starting point is 00:07:54 There's no way to hear. No, no, I wasn't going to say yes. I was thinking they would ask. Oh, you thought they would ask? Yeah, yeah. you were going to say well i got you guys going to get beat up in this fight it's just it is what it is every single fight's like right right right so it's almost like i would people were saying stuff like it's going to be the one i'm like there's no way he's to get out of this train wreck
Starting point is 00:08:11 right without being injured i was thinking the same thing what you were thinking but i thought they might ask we'll see you know that's what i was thinking like at the beginning of camp when when it started happening but it's all good and man charles that wasn't that wasn't the best charles in that first islam fight you know if if charles shows up who he was when he fought me when he fought gaiti when he fought chanler when he fought Darius. If that guy shows up, I mean, he can... It's a tougher fight. It's a much tough fight. He didn't want to be in there that last one.
Starting point is 00:08:36 He said that he wasn't there in the last fight. He said he wasn't like physically there. Why do you say he didn't feel like he wanted to be in there? Because it looked like he didn't... It just didn't look like that same fire. Like that burn in his eye, right? Even when you guys were knocking him down, you could see that he still had the fight in. One thing you don't question is your fight.
Starting point is 00:08:56 What allows you to kind of take the risk? and be in those types of fights and never seem to falter. Because you guys both have little deals, right? Gachy kind of fixes his gloves when he's like ready to fight and you do shit like, okay, come on. You almost acknowledge like, all right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I'm pointing at Connor. Like, let's do this. But you do this every time. Somebody gets you with a shot or when you land something, you like, I got you. Right? Like, what is that in you
Starting point is 00:09:21 that makes you kind of fight in that way? I think it's just those kind of things are habits from so many reps in the gyms. Like if I'm sparring, if somebody lands a good shot on me, good shot, like just to not get overwhelmed with emotion or get back. You know, I don't want to immediately try to get them back and put myself in harm's way, which is easier said than done. But that kind of keeps me mentally locked in. Like it keeps me flowing, smooth, not like blinding myself with anger or something. You know, like if you hit me with a good shot and I'm like, I got to get you back, I might get hurt.
Starting point is 00:09:48 But if you hit me with a good shot, I acknowledge it, reset, okay, it's just like reset. You know, that's what I'm doing when you say good shot for a lot of stuff, like, you know, like good shot. Good shot. Not necessarily a basketball shot. You know people don't understand that. You know when I was at wrestling? They don't. I used to say that whenever they'd be wrestled.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Good shot, Jamil, nice hand fight. And they're like, but I didn't shoot. People don't understand that. They don't get like that. It's kind of like a Lafayette thing. It might be. It might be. Because I say it all the time.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I'm like, well. Good shot, man. Yeah, it just makes sense. You get this championship belt on Saturday in Utah. You've been here since last Friday. Have you really taken much time to really think about the altitude or anything? I slept in an altitude tent last two weeks of training camp in South Florida. I slept at 5,000 feet.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Then I came out here. I'm about a little bit over 1,000 feet above Salt Lake City. I'm in the mountains here at the Airbnb. So I did a little bit extra. A little acclimation, not too much. If I'm tired, he's exhausted. I don't care where he trains. If he trains at 8,000 feet.
Starting point is 00:10:45 If I'm tired, he's exhausted. Because you're putting the pressure. Because I don't get tired. You don't get tired? No. Like Kevin Gates. Five rounds. Five rounds.
Starting point is 00:10:53 You ready for it. Let's go. Bras Ben, it's been so long already. You said your first main event was in 2011. First UFC main event in 2012. 2012. You made your debut back in 11. 34 years old.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Now, still looking down the line like, man, I got a long time of doing this. Please don't tell me anything about it. Like, stop. Still looking damn good as well. You forgot that. They look good. Thank you. This is my 47th mixed martial arts fight.
Starting point is 00:11:17 It's crazy. And I still feel good. I still know I can compete with the best in the world. It's just how much do I want to do it. You know, my family's good. I've said this all week. My family's good. I'm not fighting.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I'm fighting for a lot of different things. Of course, I want the money and I want the title and the big fights. What's left on the list is undisputed world champion that hasn't been crossed off. That's still the goal. That's still what I want to do. And as long as I feel good and feel able, I mean, we'll see, man. Saturday first. Saturday first.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah. All right. Before I let you go, champ, bro, there's a restaurant in Salt Lake City. one of us lives here. There's gumbo with rue in the restaurants. I don't know what time you leave Sunday. But if you're going to be here at least till lunch, let me buy you lunch. I'm going to go up.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I'm leaving Monday. Okay, so I'm going to go and leave a tab. Let's say this is for Dustin Porriere. And I'm going to buy you some gumbo. I'm in. I'll bring my own sauce. My own hot sauce. I know you got the hot sauce.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I got it. I got it. He carried them off on with you. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got both of them, the hot. I got all three of them here. And some rare stads. I got 12 bottles of rare stash.
Starting point is 00:12:25 You want some? I mean, you want to talk about a man that knows how to pedal his products? Dustin Poyer is a businessman, not just a businessman. This weekend, Dustin Porey takes on Justin Gagey for the BMF Championship by the U.S. 291. Make sure you guys buy that pay-per-view. It's going to be fantastic. One of the best cars we've had for a long time.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And when you put these two in the main event, you know it's going to be absolute fireworks. It's happening everything Dustin's doing. He got the hot sauce, he got the rare stash, Dustin Porre on Instagram and everywhere else. Dustin, the Diamond, Porier, everywhere else on his social media. Make sure you guys, make sure you guys, like, subscribe, peace. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
Starting point is 00:13:23 This week, my guest, SNL's Mike. Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:13:40 or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 is big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 00:13:53 and try to make sense of how we survived it. our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
Starting point is 00:14:17 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman. documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:14:42 This is an I-Hart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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