The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Gunther on KICKING JEY USO's ASS at WrestleMania, WWE signing, INSANE weight loss

Episode Date: April 20, 2025

WrestleMania 41 from Las Vegas is upon us, and so Daniel Cormier IS LIVE from WWE World to check-in with the best of the best in the sport. Wrestling superstar Gunther joins DC to talk about his matchup against Jey Uso, and why he expects to beat him for the fourth time in a row! Gunther also gets into it with some of the fans, and talks about never needing the approval of the fans. Plus, Gunther gets into his HUGE WEIGHT LOSS JOURNEY and why he decided to lose the weight when his career started to take off. And don't miss Gunther's message for Jey Uso and ALL his fans! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. It's WrestleMania season, and you know the boy gets super excited about anything WWE. So I'm checking in with some of the wrestlers that they get ready for the show of all shows. And today's episode is brought to you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in your corner with unlimited. limited 5G data that will not slow you down.

Guys, so you know if you watch anything I've done any of my fights, you know how much of a WWE fan I am. So this to me is like a dream come true. You know, I did this in Los Angeles a couple years ago. I was on a side stage. I spoke to Omas. We took a photo. It was like the most shared photo I've ever had in my entire life

because you have a giant and then you have me who doesn't look like I could fight. anyone, but clearly I can't fight. To now we're on the main stage. And not only on the main stage, but we are going to be joined by two of the biggest stars in wrestling today, world champions,

legends, guys that I'm a massive fan of. And my first guess is a guy that I really do enjoy a guy that I think, he's my favorite wrestler. He's the current world champion. He is a

former NXT UK champion, the longest reigning intercontinental champion of all time. Yo, you know what's crazy about this dude? He has like one title reign in every belt because he never loses and that's why I love him so much. Guys, give it up for my first guess.

The ring in a row, Gunter. Beautiful belt champion. Thank you for joining me. I appreciate you giving me some time. Thank you for having me though. You know, when I started watching wrestling again, and I started watching you and noticing you for the first time, you stood out right away because of the physical,

the physical ability, you beat people up, man. And for a guy like me that likes watching people get beat up and that likes to beat people up, you are a breath of fresh air. How did you develop that style inside the ring? I mean, first of all, thank you for saying that. Coming from you, that means something. Whatever they think, I don't pay too much attention to it, to be honest.

But that coming from you means, a lot. I always liked, I was a big fan of the Japanese wrestlers back then, the European wrestlers and that style was way more physical, sports-based, and yeah, intense. And I just thought it makes sense for my buddy constitution over time and that's what I stuck with. You know, I watched you in Los Angeles with Drew McIntyre and Seamus. And by the end of that match, you guys were all battered and bruised. When you're done with a match like that and you go back to the back. What's that feeling, right? Knowing that you laid it all out on the line and put on one of the greatest matches of the entire year. Well, in that moment, you feel alive afterwards

because in our careers, it's those 10 to 20 minutes in the ring, that's what you all do it for, at least from my perspective. Like everything around it, the travel, the training, everything, all the hardships around it, they really pay off when I can be in there for 20 minutes or something. leave it all in the ring. Hey, Gunter, so you won the world championship or the king of the ring, and the crowd, us, right, all the fans we said, you deserve it. And you so disrespect, you so disrespectfully told us it doesn't matter what we think. Why do you dislike that we appreciate you, man?

You're turning on me here. I excluded you. I was just talking about that. But I'm one of them. I'm one of these guys. No, it's all right. I appreciate it a little bit. That's where.

Hey, this journey, though, Gunter, when I was introducing you, when I'm doing my background into you, you're the longest reign of intercontinental champion of all time. When you held the belt in NXT, one of the longest reigns of all time, now as the champion, the world champion, another long reign. How important is it for you to not only become champ, but to hold on to these titles, right?

Have these long, sustained reigns. Some able to tell your story. and really stand atop the sport as you have? I think I always thought about it like I wanted to be a great champion in professional wrestling. I want to represent that. And I always liked the ideas. I don't know, there's all those crazy records,

like five-time intercontinental champion, 10 times world champion, all of that. I rather win a title once, hold it for a very long time, leave my mark, and then move on to the next thing. You know, that's a great answer. But you really don't care that they're clapping for them. See, that's what I'm getting from them.

See what I'm saying? I'm the bullied one here. But you're the bully because they're, you know. He said you're going to lose your belt this weekend. Yeah, yeah, sure. Gunther, I saw some pictures of you from the past. And you were a big boy. you kind of look like me in retirement, right?

Like, not me when I was fighting. You look like me today. How important was it for you to change yourself physically? And how important or how big of a, how much can you attribute that weight loss and you physically change into how you're perceived in the WWE today? Yeah, well, first of all, for my health, it was very important to change it up at some point.

Overall, over the years, I was, I was never that big when I was younger, I was always doing sports, and then I stopped playing football and switched to wrestling, and I gained a lot of weight. And then in wrestling, I always liked those guys like Vader and Stan Hansen. Yeah, Vader was the man.

A lot of the Japanese heavyweights were like bulky guys. And I kind of, I don't know, I guess I romanticized it a bit where I compared myself to that. I always liked the idea of like a proper heavyweight wrestler looks like the next door's butcher or something like that, you know what I mean? But it came to a point when the career progressed and I knew, okay, I'm going to be on television every week now.

I had to update that to maximize this whole thing to the full extent. And that was the decision I made. And it was a good experience doing that. It takes a lot of, as you know, like a diet, like going down and down and down takes so much discipline. And it ruins your social life and everything around it. And it was good to test myself with that and have that experience. and yeah it helped me to find a good balance now it feel good with the clothes like i got to tell you when i was making 205 my pants size was going down like three different sizes yeah yeah yeah

like a 38 to like a 34 32 and i look in the i sit in the mirror saying i look good you yeah you know you know do you believe there's been a change in w w yeah this new regime they're They love you. Obviously, you keep winning belts. Do you think you would have had that success with the prior regime? I don't think so, no. I'm not to that extent or in that way, I think. I was always like a triple-H guy. Like, that was the guy I dealt with most of my Korean WB and I had a shorter stint under the old regime. But yeah, ever since then, I think especially as European guys, we got to thank Hunter for a lot of things because he was the one that Open WWE to the world outside of that universe to wrestling abroad Wrestling on the Independence and that just opened

Yeah, that just gave us so many possibilities to step into There was a crucial moment for me in my career and there was definitely a little bit be at the right time Like be at the right place at the right time. Yeah, but yeah, I'm glad that things are how they are right now and Yeah, I'm thinking we're just getting started with everything. The red hot now it's taking off everywhere, and we're just getting started. You told me in the back that it's been 20 years since you started wrestling. Yes. WrestleMania weekend.

I'm going through the airport and the amount of people that are here to watch you guys perform, to take part in what is the biggest weekend in wrestling, what does it mean to you, Gunter, to have that, right? to be able to be not only on the card of all cards, but to be one of the headliners, to be one of the show starters and have the opportunity to steal the show. Does that still resonate with you as it did

the first time you got the call that you were going to wrestle on this card? I feel like right now what it really feels like, and I think there was after that match you just talked about before with Seamus and Drew, there was like a confirmation for myself, like, I belong here. Yeah.

Like, I belong here and I can run things here. And, yeah, I'm enjoying it right now. That's like, that's what I worked for my whole life. And I'm not going to, I'm not trying to load pressure on myself. I'm just here to enjoy it. And, yeah, on Saturday when I get out there with Jay Uso, I'm going to enjoy kicking his ass for 20 minutes. That's what I'm going to do.

So, so, so, so, so, to get to that, right? To get to the matchup, I had Jay Uso, on my podcast a while back and he was excited about winning the Royal Rumble. He was excited about the idea that he became world champion for the first time and he had a sight set solely on you to become the world champion.

The bill to this match has been fantastic. You assaulted his brother. You assaulted his brother in a way where you should have been arrested. You should have been arrested for what you did to poor Jimmy Uso, he's a good guy. That's why we all signed a wave-ups. up front that's how has that been building to this match and knowing that all these people they want to get their hands up

they want to dance they want to say yee i mean how does it feel every time you walk out there you get the booze and juso gets the the cheers and the love i mean one thing i claim for myself nobody pisses on a parade like i do i think i'm the best at that and yeah i mean the thing is with jay it's hard to not like him I get that and he's been busting his ass in his company since his whole career he's always been with WWE so it's not his fault that he's a little bit delusional I went to wrestling university all around the world I've been for every scenario I've been all around the globe before I came to WWE so I don't blame Jay for thinking the way he thinks but on

that they all make him understand. They make him feel it. My words, they didn't work up front. Gunther, you have wrestled Jay Uso before. Three times. Three times. Beat him three times. Beating him three times.

But he's more motivated today than he has ever been. When you stand in that ring with him now, can you see that different level of intensity than you saw before? I got to admit I can. And that was the whole thing in the last weeks. I always knew Jay had to do. in him because we saw it from him before. But I was surprised

that it actually comes out of him in this scenario now because there's more pressure on him right now because of all those people having expectations than ever before. That's something I don't deal with. Like I said before, I do not care what they think, what they say. I'm doing

all of this solely for myself. Yeah. So mentally I'm in a way better state than he is. But he showed me the different side in the last weeks. and I'm happy I can take on the best version of J.U.S. on Saturday. Yeah. Gunter, you always had Imperium before. Do you like standing alone now where you're out there by yourself or do you kind of miss having the whole group? Both is nice. I've been with a group for a long time, but then I've been alone for a while and then I was with a group again and now I'm on myself again.

So both has his ups and downs. But I think I'm good where I'm red now. Yeah. Okay. So I got a question. This is me the fan, right? The Gunter fan. Yo, what's your finisher?

Is there a finisher? Like, is it the sleeper or is it the power bomb? I'm like, what is your, you have no finisher? I think that, to me, is probably one of the best things about you, right? You do that big splash off the top rope, which is poetry in motion. A big man jumping off the rope like that? Amazing. The power bomb, the sleeper.

What's your finishing move, man? Yeah, I don't have one. Whatever ends the match on that day in that situation, what makes the most sense, that's what I'm going to do. And I might need to slow down on the Big Splash. I got to say, when it was heavier, it was easier on myself. I got to be honest. But, yeah, overall, just what makes sense in the situation.

And I've never been a big fan of that, just have one specific finishing move. Yeah, that's why I decided, in general, my career, whatever, everybody else. that thing A, I try not to do it. It's awesome. It's awesome, man. That's part of the reason that I enjoy your fighting style so tremendously.

Before you get to the match this weekend, tell these fans what you're going to do to Jay Uso or give Jay Uso a message. Cameras back there. Tell Jay Uso what he can look forward to this weekend and let these fans know. This gentleman right here. He keeps yelling, you're going to lose your belt. He's right there with that glass. Him right there. Give him that message about how disappointed he's going to be come Saturday night because I've got you, Gunter.

You better sit your ass down right there before I come down. I'm going to beat your ass, okay? You understand? Get him out. Yeah. Sit your ass down. Nobody cares what you got to say. Come on.

You have no message for them. No. My words, they don't land with those people. Yes. They can't grasp it. They can digest the four-letter word. They're pretty good at that. But everything over a sentence, it's pretty hard to digest for them.

So everything's said and done. Well, you are one of the greatest wrestlers in the world, man. Thank you for having me. ESPN's male wrestle of the year, 2033, 24. Give it up for the ring general, the world champion, Gunther. All right, guys, it's the greatest time of the year, the NBA playoffs. Look, I don't care if you watch basketball all season or not. If you know, you know that when the playoffs starts,

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I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an

a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was harmed. You just understood. That's how personal it got.

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