The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Islam Makhachev on Jack Della Maddalena, double champ status, Khabib & AKA stories

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Islam Makhachev IS BACK on the Daniel Cormier Check-In series ahead of his MASSIVE UFC 322 FIGHT at Madison Square Garden where he looks to become a champion in two weight classes against Jack Della Maddalena. Islam talks to DC about training with Khabib Nurmagomedov and his most recent camp in preparation for Jack Della. Makhachev reveals what he needs to do to beat JDM, and how he'll achieve double champ status. Plus, don't miss DC and Islam talk about their training sessions, share stories from AKA gym, and where Islam ranks against Khabib Nurmagomedov, Cain Velasquez, and some of the greatest fighters from the gym. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I got to be honest with you. Like, this is my name. Daniel Cormier. TV? Like, real deal now. Hey. TV, China? Yes.

Hey, so listen. I got to be honest with you. Be honest. I kind of don't like the way you promote this fight. with just constant shots at me, like DC this, DC Fed, DC Fed. Everybody, brother, just come from the media, they ask me, you're still thinking about 185? You?

Yeah, they asked me. I just told him, if DC helped me, I can. Gain weight? But why always, DC this, DC this? Hey, what about the other day, Ababaka? I killed this guy. I kill Abu Bakr. Kabib too, a little bit.

I kill him. Come on Will Harris Edit this video This guy Will Harris is the worst video Editor of all the time He make like I He make like I stay on the ground the whole time

Come on, Resvon I was not on the ground the whole time These guys go crazy Look at this, you guys like together click Brother I'm happy that day You burn a lot of colors I always Always always

I lift weights You comment you say This guy work hard huh I'm happy. When I see you for something inside the gym, I'm, like, really happy. Why? Because, brother, people look at you and thinking, this is, like, one of the best fighter of all the time. And how?

It was even when I was fighting, people think this. No, when you're fighting, you look good, man. Nah, I know. I look good now, too, though. A little bit. I'm a really good-looking face. You may have better body, but my face better than yours. You promise me.

You're not going to cut it. I cut it. You say no. This morning I cut a little bit. I leave, though, see? I still got the beard, but it's like nice and neat, you know? Don't cut, brother. You say I will come to Dagestan.

I will come to Dagestan in the summer, and I'll keep longer. Yeah, yeah, all right? From today to summertime? No chance. It isches. No chance. Guys, Islam fights Jack Delamadal, how's it been, being around Jack Delamadena this week and being so close to, ultimately something that you talked about.

years ago trying to become a champion in two-way classes. Yeah, like, happy, happy. Biggest card of the year, like, best arena, and biggest fight on my life. Very excited and, like, really happy. Are you surprised that you're as big a favorite as you are over Jack Delamadena? Because when I hear you talk about the fight,

you're very aware of how tough a fight this is. But it seems like the general public thinks that it's a foregone conclusion that you're going to be a world champion? I never think about this. Who make their rankings? Who make this? The numbers?

Yes. Guys that do bets, odds makers, they call them. I don't do bets. That's why. You don't bet? I don't believe and I don't, like, check. Well, I'm telling you right now, you're a big favorite over Jack Delam, Adelaide.

You did bet? I don't gamble. Yeah, that's good. Better ways to spend your money, huh? Yeah, yeah. Like on this, what is this watch? What is this watch? Yes, what kind of watch is this?

Like Target watch? What time is it? You get from Target? What time is it? I can't tell. What time is it? Just you late. Whatever time it is, I'm late.

Oh, man. Hey, the other day... Who have these vets? They never late. They never late. But you were early, which is very odd. Professional.

30 minutes before. We were supposed to interview. 30 minutes before. I'm not surprised when you laid. You always laid inside the gym also. I was never laid and training. You like broke all Rusen. No, I didn't.

When we were all training together, I was always 12 o'clock practice, 11.55, 1155 I show up. I remember you were like travel bag. Yep, like suitcase. Yeah, you come always like 11, 15, 11. No, we. I'm trained 12, yeah, 1115, I was there.

I would show up 11.15, practice start 12 o'clock. No, 11. You're always late, man. You're always not professional, but be on your work. Yeah, I'm being. Some of the fighter, okay, I am good now. I feel good, not cutting, like, match weight. Some of the guys cutting weight, if you're late, they're going to beat you here.

Beat me. You think that people can beat me now? Two, three people can beat you. together at the same time I remember one time when we almost smash you in a key you try to jump me almost because Khabib

yeah why you guys you guys follow this guy like this guy like this guy like he's a good leader tell me the story you say like you bring the crutch mare like as you say this is my team this is my team you teach like

10 15 people but when we almost smash you nobody can you're crazy somebody like step to help you remember this was you when you guys went to fight me why why you want to smash me because you go crazy because you go crazy you make him injured no i didn't injure habib i've never injured his neck he said oh and i grabbed the head you say let's let's do like something easy and you go hard with him but do you remember the other day when we're in where we were

in practice i tell him i'm finished i'm finished i go on the side what do you do throw me down jump on me Two days ago? Yes. It's okay. But it's the same, like because he said, okay. Make you work, man. Make you work. To have good dinner.

So wait, why? Why? Why? When I do it, I try hurt Habi. But when he do it, he just make me work. You see? Now you. Now I understand bias.

You know how everybody says, oh, he biased Islam. Now I understand bias. Now you both retired. Who cares if you're injured? Nobody. But that time, he's still fighting. Islam. Jack?

has improved greatly in his wrestling. He's working with Craig Jones. Alexander Volcanovsky. Alexander Volcanowski, who had success defending takedowns, is also helping him prepare. What do you make of that, seeing all those guys... Let's make this, Craig one fight and make a fight. Everybody asks you what?

Like, he helped him to improve something, improve something. It's not working like this. When you bring someone for one camp or for two camps, I just give you a good example. I told yesterday. What about Hamzad fighting with Deplice? I think Deplice bring many coaches, many, many partners, but it's not helping. It's not working like this.

He was waiting. Why was he waiting so long to try? Did he ever sprawl? Who? Duplessi, did he ever sprawl? I don't think he ever sprawled. I don't think he ever sprawled. I'm upset, but I don't think he was.

He even watched the wrestling match in the TV, you know. He didn't sprawl. He didn't sprawl one time. There was one thing you had to do in that fight, and that was defend wrestling. And he didn't sprawl. So do you think Jack will be able to wrestle or be able to stop takedowns or do you anticipate that you're going to be able to take him down to control him?

He can stop one time, second time. But, you know, I will try again, again, again. Hard to stop. Are you comfortable? Are you comfortable standing and striking with Jack Della Madeline if you need to for 25 minutes? It's not like fighting, like wrestle against boxer. I will strike. I can strike with anyone, you know.

I strike with Dustin all fight almost. I strike with Vogue, you know. I'm not wrestling. I'm a best M.A. You know when you talk about these guys, there's some things when we talk, you always say crazy stuff. But there's a clip where you were talking about Dustin Fourier's black belt. There's just so many clips of you, like talking about these guys. When you fight them, is it what's expected?

Because Dustin was able to defend the takedowns. Dustin was able to stay upright, and you have to beat him on the feet. But are you surprised at times when you get in there with someone, when you have an idea that they're not going to be as good at something? Because, like I said, Dustin's a black belt. He was able to defend himself up until the fifth round. And then you did, to get a takedown, you did exactly what we were. we teach you. I'm not bad. That's the one. That take down

we teach you. With the leg, that's the one we teach you. Man, U.S. don't have this technique, man. You're a single leg, double leg. And pressure. The best wrestling country in the world right now and you're telling me we don't have something. Single leg, double leg, and

pressure. That's it. So again, are you surprised? Yeah, like surprise. Yeah. Honestly, I'm surprised. He defends wrestling very well. But I'm not black belt and I still finish him in the last one. Yeah. Would you be surprised if Jack is able to defend every takedown? Every takedown? Yeah.

No, it's not possible. Every takedown. It's not possible. Maybe someone here can defend, but not every takedown. You think you'd take anybody down? Yeah, if I take you down. You never took me down. I swear I have video, man. You want me to show you the picture of me and you,

and whose hand is Romero holding up after the match? No, we talk about pictures. Take down, not about picture. I have video and I take you down. You know you've been promising this video for three fights now, and I've never seen the video. I will show you. Yeah, you need to show me the video. If you win this fight this weekend, what would that mean to you and legacy?

Because I think earlier in the week, I heard you on an interview, and you spoke about legacy. I don't know that I've ever heard you say legacy before. What would this mean to you and your legacy to become a champion in two divisions? I take the title. I have the title. I have the money. Now it's the legacy. Now the second build.

People fight for the second build just for the legacy, you know, most of them. And like you, you take the second build in Madison Square Garden? No, Vegas, but I defended it in Madison Square Garden. My arena is better. What, to become double champion? I fought Madison Square Garden too, Islam. But not for the second belt. I had two belts when I came into Madison Square Garden and left with two belts.

See? You see? You understand? I close to beat all records. You'd have to have the second belt still, Islam? And? You have more title defense? And the Hall of Fame?

Yes. There's a lot. You can list them all. You know what I know. You know what I know you ask me. You know. I need to tell you always. I need to something.

to Luke and I want to beat, you know. Mine. Yeah. Yeah. You need to. So. And I will be one of the best fighter from AKAA. You already won the best of all time from AKA.

You know right now, you know right now in AKA history, it's me, Habib, only two over you. Now you got to, you pass Luke and Kane. No, Kane still. You're number four. You still number four because Kane, Kane too, a little bit better than you. in this career. A little big case deal. I'm number for which number you are.

Me? Kabib never lost. So I kind of put him number one because he's undefeated. It's hard not to lose. You lost. Think about this. Like the one time. Don't think.

No, but I'm saying you could never lose. Like you were better than the guy. But you make mistake, Khab never lost. It's impossible to like never lose. Right? So yes, I will put him number one.

He's very good. 29 fights, no losses. Even sometimes you fall down like somebody kid you, you know, you can lose a fight. Even still right now, he never lost, beat you inside the gym. Hey, he's insanely big. You know how you always say, brother, but there's a thing like you say, but there's a thing like you say, hey, you need to do this every day so you get skinny. Habib ain't skinny? He grapple every day, every week.

Khabib is not skinny, bro. Khabi weighs so heavy right now and big. No, he's big, but not fit. I don't know if you've seen his legs, his ankle is fat. His leg and this, you see this part? It's very fat. Don't talk about somebody's fat, though. You cannot right now.

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He's a good, you know. He's a good. I watch his many fights. Some of the striker, if you take him down, they're like uncomfortable there. But I see he scrambles. He scrambles really well whenever the fight is grotto. He knows how to move, what to do, you know. He's good everywhere.

I hope it's going to be easy, but ready for anything. Was he bigger than you thought whenever you stood in front of him? No, he's like same toe. But maybe inside the cage he's going to be. couple of KG bigger than me. But still, if the fight day, you come to my room and give me some food, maybe the same.

I'm going to have the traditional Dagestan food. Yeah, you remember last time, after the fight, you give me the... What do you give me? What? Oh, yeah, I give you. You like this one, huh? Yeah, yeah. It was the, like, biscuit with the cheese and...

You eat this one? Yes. It's very good, huh? You will bring it again? Mm-mm. That's in Los Angeles. It's a restaurant-only Los Angeles. Portos.

It's very good. But some things bring me. I'll bring you something. But you have to win. If you don't win, you get no snacks. No food. No. Go back to Dagestan and don't get fed.

You know how we play out there. Last thing. You guys all come from the same place, extremely close. All these goals that are set out in front of you, to achieve them, to accomplish them. did you ever imagine that this would be your career? Like thinking back to that kid that walked into A.K.A. when you and Islam, Ma Madov had two different color shirts. Remember Islam red, Islam black?

Not black, gray. Great. Islam gray, Islam red. It's like, could you ever imagine that your career would be this, like, the number one pound-fampal fighter in the world? I just came to a kid and looked at the wall. You can't realize his look. and I'm thinking, my picture never going to be in this. Why?

Now I can move you all guys. You guys are finished. You've done so much. You might not have thought that you could be up there, but I'm telling you the first day you walked into the gym. It was very evident that you would be a world champion. I never thinking, you know, I have this success. Thanks God, I have everything right now.

I have belts, you know. And you guys also. Yeah. The A.k.a. help me a lot by training, like, so hard in A.k.a. always, the bike room, I still remember this room. I don't like this room, but still remember. More than anything, somebody asked me yesterday, like, what do you miss about fighting? I don't miss fighting. I don't miss walking out. I don't miss any of that. I just missed the opportunity to spend all that time that we had in the gym where you're trained and you talk and you hang out, the camaraderie. That's what I miss the most. Let's make one camp in A.k.A.

not like crazy hard training, just for lose weight, you know. With me? You, Habib. Oh, now, so you admit now. Habib maybe needed to lose a few pounds, too. This guy is a fat shamer, man. Islam Makashev. We will bring Luke.

You see Luke? Instagram? This guy's out of his mind. Which are we? We have to bring him back, fix his mind. His mind is broken, Islam. Islam, what happened to his mind? I don't know what.

And this is the, without the gloves. He fought there, yeah? No, he fought without the gloves. And he fought Darren Till. Remember, Darren Till, knocked him out. This is crazy knockout. Very, very bad knockoff. Lou.

Why, when he was with you in a care, you have to teach him. To box? To do, like, how to live, to, don't go to the back place. I'm a man. I'm a man. He's a man. You're a man. We can't teach one man how to live his life, man.

Why don't you call him and tell him? Why don't you call Luke and say, hey, Luke, you need to, like, maybe stop, like, going crazy all this time. You're going to come to Dagestan. Two, three years. No, all life. Keep Luke in Dagestan forever. Luke, we're going to help you, my brother. Islam Makachel fights for the UFC Walter Way Championship this weekend,

looking to become a champion in two-way classes, one of the best fighters of all time, and one of the best fighters, pound-for-pound of all-time sitting to my left right here. Thanks for checking in again, my brother. I appreciate you. There you go. Yeah, he's a Russell guy. I can't.

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