The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Islam Makhachev Part 1: Oliveira gave up, Jon Jones ranked #1 is bull****!

Episode Date: June 10, 2023

Daniel Cormier catches up in part 1 of a two-part interview with Islam Makhachev in an exclusive interview ahead of UFC 289! Islam picks his winner between Charles Oliveira and Beneil Dariush, and you won't believe WHO HE wants to win this fight. And don't miss Makhachev tell DC about why he thinks Charles Oliveira "gave up" against him in their title fight at UFC 280. Plus, Cormier asks Makhachev about Jon Jones being ranked above him in the pound-for-pound rankings! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm good this. But you want me to call you the best pound fighter in the world? Yeah, yeah. But here's the question, right? You fight Volcanowski. You guys are supposed to be fighting for the number one pound for pound. You win. he stays number one and then John Jones come back

and now John Jones is number one. What is this? This is bullshit. How John Jones can be number one he's beat but some guy who is not champion this guy don't have belt and they put him number one pound for pound this is bullshit. Maybe because he beat him so fast doesn't matter how he beat him. Islam brother just you see putting him based but other people

other MMA who you know about MMA people, they know who is a best fighter in the world. You palm upon number one. Everybody get mad at me when I say this. They say I'm biased for you. Don't call me lightweight champion.

Call me pound for pound best fighter. That's something we're going to talk about a little bit later because there are things you can do to become the best pound pound fighter. Hey, so in that fight with Volkanowski champ, What surprised you? How was he able to fight you so close? Were you surprised and he was able to fight you so close?

I'm not surprised. I know this is going to be like tough fight, you know, because Walcanowski is a real fighter. He never give up. He always fight crazy, you know. He can wrestle, he can grappler, he can strike, you know. That's why it's not easy fight. But for me, many things, you know,

happened in Australia because so far from my country that time in Australia summertime I'm coming from the winter you know like many things but I want I don't I don't want to talk about this

just I want you know Did you ever get hurt? Did you ever get hurt like when you fell were you hurt or like was it just like kind of like you felt like you slipped or were you hurt? I'm not hurt you know I know I won the minimum, like, three rounds. Yes.

That's why I just, you know, I just waiting for decision because I know I won this. You know, so all the boys are back at A.K. Habib's back. Habib is looking skinny, bro. Habib lost some real weight, like, since I seen him last time. Habib looks real skinny. He looked real thin when he was back at A. How much he was back at A. Yeah.

Three pounds? How much he looks in a kid. He looked like. skinny guy. Habib looked like skinny guy. He's training hard. Everybody in AKA Habib, Abu Bakr, Umar, Tagir, but no Islam. Brother, where are you? Like, why were you not in AKA? Brother, tell this day and I give me fight. I'm coming. But this is you're going back to San Jose this time? No. If I fight in Abu Dhabi, it doesn't make sense, right? Not here. Habib not there. Nobody there, brother.

Who's not here? Me? Yes. Can Velasquez go every day, brother. Hey, you should see this one. Kane Velazquez and Habib trained. Brother, they go crazy. Can't fight again.

These guys go crazy with the guys fighting. Habib and Kay take one round. Give him some motivation. You're going to fight, I think. Velasquez? Yes. This guy was the best, wasn't he? Wasn't he the best?

he can beat someone and they're going to put him him powerful pound best fight okay brother Charles Oliver fight like that fight was that what you expected when you won the championship like is that kind of what you expected in the fight like I was it harder was it easier because you took him down in the first round

but you weren't able to get as much damage off as you had been when you're on time so you're going to give up if I give him some hard time He always give up and what I did first time he feel my power he I landed many good punch and he Understand this is gonna be a long night for him and he give up always what he did He didn't give up that that's the submission is pretty tight like you you've got me in this before I remember what time you and I were training and I kept trying to throw you off me really easy you know how this guy who have most finishes in the UFC tap, but he goes to go sleep.

No, it's a tight submission, bro. You've done that to me before. Now, I didn't tap, but you've got me in this submission before. This guy is champion. He has to sleep. So you think that if you don't go to sleep, then you're giving up? I don't know tomorrow, brother. He has a good fight.

I just wish him good luck. We will see tomorrow. So that's another thing. Like when I was in, I was talking to him earlier in a week and he said he just wasn't there. He said like in that fight, he wasn't there. It wasn't Charles Oliverer when you guys were inside the Actonam. Were he that time in Brazil or where? I don't know.

I asked him, I said, can you tell me what was missing? And he said he just kind of wasn't there in the fight. But if he won't tomorrow, he have to say then why, please give one more chance. and I can beat him again. You expect you think it would be a little tougher this time, Oliver? Brother, I think he don't want to fight with me because I give him always hard time. Just the match-up, right?

What he can do? He's grappling not working with me. I'm not scared he's grappling. He know, I can finish him again, he know. I can knock him out, he know, because this match for him. This was like the biggest difference between you and the other guys. When you dropped him, you jumped on him on the ground. Everybody let him get up.

Yeah, everybody scared his grappling, but this is my area. I don't scare it grappling. No. Champ, I watched you on the other day. We're on FaceTime and you're in a hotel, beautiful gold seats. Like, how much has your life changed since you want the championship? Behan, how much has life actually changed for you? Well, not much change, you know.

I make some money, but not like you. Not like, I don't sell big paper you. But you sell pay-per-view, right? You guys have to have done okay. You in Volcanowski, you and Olivaura, two times now, this guy. You turned it into the rich guy now. This is Olivera, I don't have pepper you, man. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

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But wait, there was no champion. There was no champion. So you should have shared the pay-of-view. It's okay, brother. Money is not important. I have money for my family, for my kids, for my brothers, and that's it. Yeah. If you have too much money, this is trouble.

Do you start looking like me and Habib? Yes, I'm going to say like you and Habib. Make very, very money and say people, money not important. Islam. tomorrow Charles Oliver takes on Benil Darius and all the talk of that fight is that the winner will get a chance to fight you it kind of falls in line with Abu Dhabi, right?

Benil Darius said he feels that everything you do in the octagon he does better. Right? So when you look at, when you look at what are you smiling for? Brother. Okay. Just ask him about wrestling.

No, no, I'll just ask me this. He says that he feels like everything you do aside the octagon. But brother, you see, when somebody lying with you, brother, you have to stop these people. You know my wrestling. Tell them, he's not better than me in wrestling. Maybe he can say, I better than him in striking, grappling. But he cannot say, I better than him in wrestling. If somebody lie, you have to stop and say, please.

Stop guys. In my show, you cannot lie. Brother, it wasn't in my show. I saw this. I saw this. He was in the media. He told everybody. But if he said to you, you can stop him? I would stop him. I'd be like, well, Islam's a pretty good wrestler. Yeah, you have to. You have to. But when you look at Benil D'Arouche, like, what type of unique challenges would he present to you if he is to get past Charles Oliver tomorrow night? I hope he can beat Charles Oliver because I won't name. next Benile because I fight already with Aliveira against

fight with him, it's, you know, nothing, you know. But I want some new challenge, new, new opponent, you know. That's why I want to fight with Beno. I hope he beat Oliver tomorrow. Do you think that he beats Oliver tomorrow? Who do you have it? Who do you predict wins that fight tomorrow? I think Benile can beat him.

you think so yeah I think Ali told me second round finished banal Darjush Ali I know why he said because he's

because he's fighter of course you have to say Ali said but you finish Oliver in the second round that would add to the intrigue because for my job

if you guys are matched up y'all did it the same I'm like maybe this is the fight to challenge Islam. Today on the show we did, who are the three toughest challenges to Makachev? I got Armand Saurukian. We saw you and him fight a very close fight when he made his UFC debut.

I said, all the very close. I beat him all three rounds. I thought you won 29, 28 in Russia. No, 3027. All three rounds. You won all three rounds against Sourke? And people who can say this very close fight with

Walkanowski please tell these people sit, relax and fight and watch this fight again. Well, that's what I say constantly, right? I say that the fight was a good fight but I didn't think that you lost. I thought you won the

fight. It was pretty clear to me that you had won the fight. But, you know, nobody has really seen you get tested. 100% I beat him three round minimum there. He won just last minute and last in the last round he won the last minute and that's it it was that visual but nobody had seen you in any type of disadvantaged position so it seemed that way but so you think you think

all darryush wins tomorrow and you think that's who you fight in abu daba yes i hope you hope but he and him saying that he he is like everything he can do everything better you don't but you know this this darius brother we cannot sell pipriu but this guy too much nice brother. How we sell people you? I don't know. So, would that be and said? It leads me to my next question. For me, I think...

He won't do it everywhere with his daughter, with his family, smile everywhere. You don't think that's good? It's good, but for the business, this is not good. You want to sell pay-per-views? It seems like I want to sell pay-per-views.

No, I just want to make some interesting, you know, fight. Not just about that, Peru. Like you and Olivera? I want to fight. The people won't see this much, you know? Yeah. With Alivairea, like with Volcanovsky.

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