The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Islam Makhachev Part 2: BMF title "is for bums...I don't want that s***!"

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

Daniel Cormier and lightweight champion Islam Makhachev catch up in part 2 of their two-part interview, this time looking ahead to which fight he will take next. Charles Oliveira looks to be next in l...ine for the lightweight championship, but DC asks Islam about facing the BMF title winner instead, and Makhachev says he would beat Justin Gaethje or Dustin Poirier "easy!" Plus, don't miss Islam's hot take on the BMF title and why he thinks Jorge Masvidal and Nate Diaz were chosen for it in the first place! #Herd #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of Tontons and Wampas on the Ice Planet Hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Ruehull. of two. Listen to Stuff to Bole Your Mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The biggest pay-per-view for you, and the first time Ryan Clark said it, I thought he was out of his mind. He was like, I think he should fight Dustin Poria. And I was like, well, Dustin Poria hasn't won enough to get a championship fight. And I started to think,
Starting point is 00:01:51 if you're going to get elevated into that next stratosphere, you've got to beat the guys with the names. Dustin Porier is fighting Justin Gates you for the BMF title. So what, man? What is wrong with you, bro? What is wrong with you? That's one question. If Dustin Perry, okay, Dustin Perry beat Gagee and he's going to fight next for the title,
Starting point is 00:02:15 lightweight title, he's going to come with BMF title? He's going to come to Abu Dhabi with BMF title? No, the title fight would be for your championship, not his championship. Yes, Mr. I'm lucky. I don't want this shit.
Starting point is 00:02:32 BMEF. What is it? What do you? You know what? How I can translate BMEF? What do you mean? How can you translate BML?
Starting point is 00:02:43 BML? Best. No, no, no. Baddest motherfucker is the name of this. You want to be? He's outgoat. You want to be?
Starting point is 00:02:56 But honestly, this build for the bums, you know, first time who fight? for this belt. Diaz and Mazvedo. The people who never can be champion, you know, they give him some belt. Guys, be happy.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Fight for BMEF. But this is, I don't know. Then I have to stop this. After this, please, help him. Stop. What is wrong with you, man? What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Gage and Parier, I don't know. I don't know. When this guy, they fight for the real belt many times, and they always lose, you know. And now, Dana, like, good guy give him other belt. Guys, you have to be BMF champion. Honestly, if somebody give me this belt tomorrow, I don't want this shit. Really? You would say no to the belt.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Of course, brother, what is this? Bad this, brother, I don't want to say this. Keep you away from me. So if you do, so you're telling me if you... Never say, this fight is going to be versus lightweight champion and BMAF champion. Never say this, okay? I would say it.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I would actually say it. When I'm trying to promote your fight, I would say it. I don't. I don't. You want me to tell you how I would say it? Let me tell you how I would say it. I would say it. In Abu Dhabi, you have the lightweight champion in the world.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Islamahach have taken on the BMF champion, Justin Gaitier or Dustin Porier in Abu Dhabi for the lightweight championship of the world. Guys, what makes this an interesting fight is that you have a guy in Islamaadab that has looked almost unbeatable, but then you got the BMF champion. He has proven time and time again that he is as tough and durable as anyone else
Starting point is 00:05:04 and have proven to be one of the baddest men walk in the planet. You don't believe. Please, be Neil. Please, tomorrow beat Olivera and come to our dad. But you don't think, but do you not believe, how can you not feel, champ,
Starting point is 00:05:21 that one of those guys in their name recognition and all of their accomplishments, right? Both interim champions before. Both of them always very excited. Both of those guys being as good as they are with the name value, right? Poria has fought Kanah McGregor three times. Justin Gachi has been in that with Habib.
Starting point is 00:05:39 They've been in them with some of the biggest names in the sport. You don't think that the name recognition that they bring to help you when you fight them. I can beat them. I can fight with Parier or Gagee, but I don't need this BMEF shit, brother. And that's it. I can beat this guy, is it?
Starting point is 00:05:59 I can fight this poor guy. Gage. I think better fight for me with Gaiji or Boria because you know for the fans, the people are going to watch this fight. Yeah, more
Starting point is 00:06:11 pay-per-views, right? More paper views, more people watch it. Yeah. But without this belt, please. You don't make those you don't make the rules, bro. You don't make the rules.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I can say, Dana, Dana. Tell this guy, Keep this belt in the home and come to the fight. Who do you think wins that fight between those two? Because the last fight when Justin Gagie called Vizier... I think Porre can't... You think Poree beats Gensi?
Starting point is 00:06:46 But Gaiji against Gisid look good. What Gage has for Poree? Nothing. Porre have good boxing, better than Gajie. And that's it. I hope that. He's going to be boxing. much. You think it'll be a boxing match? But I thought that, I thought that Justin Gaichi in the
Starting point is 00:07:09 fight against Vizizier looked better and he looked like he was working on different things to make himself a more effective fighter over long fights. I thought he looked better. And then against Michael Chandler, I thought Dustin Poirier looked improved, right? Brother, yeah, I see this much. He looked good in this much, but for a year, I think is different level. They both guys, Fiziv and Chandler, this guy is good, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:39 but he's not top level. He is good. He can be top five, but top three, he never. You don't think Fizizzee's one of the better ones at 155? I think he's good, man. Good striker, but nobody check his wrestling,
Starting point is 00:07:54 you know. He's good. But I think he's going to, somebody have good wrestling. They can finish him. This guy come from Wai Tai, he has good boxing, good kick, you know. But this is not striking fight. If somebody takes him down, I think he's going to give him big trouble.
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Starting point is 00:09:15 You think Daruse? Best things he never give up, you know? He's going to fight all rounds. Yeah. Darius is good. Darius. But you said that he doesn't bring the eyes. like some of the other guys.
Starting point is 00:09:30 See, that's the balance, right? That's the balance. That's where you haven't gotten together as a champion. I don't want to talk about these guys, like Fourier, Gageo, Olivera. I just ready. I'm in, I don't have opponent now, but I'm in training camp.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm in downtime now. I know why, because you're probably, like, too big. You probably have to start now because you're so heavy. That's probably what it is. Not big. Same way. 83, 82.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Really? Yes. Islam. We talked earlier about palm-for-pong. Palm-pawm means that your fighting style translates across weight divisions. Did you see yourself fighting at 170? And if so, how soon would you want to try to become, you know, double champion? You know, get a couple belts, you know, one on these shoulders.
Starting point is 00:10:23 This is my dream. And I'm sure I can be double champion. You know, I can beat. I can beat one. Brother, I forget his real name. Edwards. Edel, Leon, Edd. Dude, how you forget the champion's name, bro?
Starting point is 00:10:45 What? Brother, I can beat this guy. I know. How you forget his name, dog? I'm in the Russian, brother. Almost 11 p.m., that's right. I want to sleep. I have today two hard training sessions.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Okay, all right. I'll give you a pass. You think you match up well against Leon Edwards, though? Because he showed very good takedown defense against Maraussman. Brother, okay, he showed good defense, brother. With me, it's going to be different. I can striking with him. I can rebel with him resting anywhere.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I can beat this guy, I know. Just give me one chance in the seat. My brother, that's what I think people misunderstand you a little bit Maybe they're going to After I won the second Bill, maybe they're going to put me base upon upon
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah, they can't deny it then All right man, last one before I let you go Last one before I let you go First off, I've gotten Burroughs to agree to come With Your Ass in AKA he'll come and wrestle You're going to be mad because you're going to get embarrassed You know who with me in the camp? Who?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Kadima Maddo. You know this guy? Really? Yes, I bring him to the camp. I rest, him with him every day. Brother, Paros, I respect this guy. He's like five-time World Chanty.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Seven, seven, seven. Seven. Seven. Don't even, or six or seven. Don't be crazy, brother, please. You don't know, you don't know six or seven. I think it's six or seven. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Brother, okay. Bring him to the A.K.A. Close us to the cage and wrestling match. To the cage, wrestling match. Okay? Wrestling rules, everything. Just in the cage. Do you even know how to wrestle a wrestling match?
Starting point is 00:12:46 You know the rules? Because when you and I wrestled, I turned you three times and you thought you won the match. Well, I put the video. I put the people know now. No. But you didn't put the whole video. It was heavily edited. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:01 How many times I finished you in the grappling match? In grapple? Dude, you got me in the arm triangle one time and I didn't even tap. You not tap? I didn't even tell! Did I tap? Did I tap? I have to ask how.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Please, Javier. Give me the video and I can sell the video. Russia's back in, right? Russia's back in the World Championship. so it won't be just Iran versus USA. Like, who do you think is the best wrestler in the world right now? Like, Palm, the best wrestling in the world? How do the U.S. team feel when Russian wrestlers come back?
Starting point is 00:13:41 How do they feel? Dude, let me tell you this. The Russians are back, and we literally had the biggest party in American history. Because we want to prove now that we're the best wrestling country in the world. Last year, we had four world champions. We had 10 world medals. We are ready to, we are ready for Russia to be back so that we can show.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Of course you have, you have everything because Russia are not in the... Brother, brother, the Russian guys don't beat Dake. The Russian guys don't beat Taylor. Adi Magamado beat Dake 11-0. No, he didn't beat Dake 11-0. Olympic Championship, 11-0. He was hurt.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Dake was hurt at the Olympic Games. Dake was hurt at the Olympic Games. That's the only time he could point to. You have to say, like, Oliver, that time, this is not Dake. I'm not there. You're so stupid, man. You're disrespectful, too, bro. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:14:45 You've got to disrespectful, man. Sorry, brother, but I live on zero. He was hurt. He was hurt. Dake was hurt. He was hurt bad, man. Because he won the world championships when he was healthy. But every time he was hurt.
Starting point is 00:15:02 How he hurt? Bro, he was hurt when he made the Olympic team. After this match, he beat Chamizo for third place. Yeah, he's got a good style for Chamizo. So who's the best wrestle in the war, you think, Pop-upon? Sadd-Live, brother, you know. Saddley still, you think? Of course.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Brother, this guy just have to go to Olympic Games, and that's it. He don't have opponent there. Kyle Snyder is in his weight class. Forget, brother, Carl Snyder, brother, lose a thousand times. No, he hasn't lost him a thousand times. This is easy much for Sardland. You're so crazy. Champ, thank you so much for joining me, man.
Starting point is 00:15:44 You're a man. Please, one question. You agree? Sardule, best wrestling. I looked at the Palm-Fa-Pon rankings recently. I think you were number one. I think Pompin number one, Gable Steveson, Gable Steveson, the heavyweight, USA heavyweight. I think he's the best Pomphevon.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You don't think? This guy's good, man. Brother, he's not best Pompheon. But Sardulah beat everybody 10-0. I think Sajaliv, I think Sajalov is right up there, yes. But there's some good dudes around the world right now. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:24 A. Champ. Thank you for joining me, man. I appreciate you checking it with me again. Hope to see you soon, bro. I'm going to be in Abu Dhabi when you defend your championship, you know, so... You're sure? You're sure? Your daughter, your son don't have, like, gymnastics, wrestling much.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I'm always there, bro. I'm always there. Like, what if I ever missed yours? Just in Australia. The only one. Everything else. Why you didn't come? Habib didn't come.
Starting point is 00:16:50 That's why it's tough match, you know. When Habib come... But the whole time you fight, me and Habib, we're very nervous and we watch you. You know, we watch you. You have to come and support you. I will, champ. Hey, get some rest, champ. Thank you for checking in, man, and I'll see you soon, boss.
Starting point is 00:17:10 See you, brother. You're the man this long. Thank you, brother. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some
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