The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Islam Makhachev: "ZERO CHANCE Alexander Volkanovski finishes me"

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

Alexander Volkanovski wants Islam Makhachev on less than 2 weeks notice, and Islam is adamant Volk just wants the big pay day. DC checks in with the champion ahead of his massive main event fight agai...nst Alexander "The Great," and Makhachev tells Cormier he's ready to dominate in their rematch. And don't miss Islam talk Leon Edwards and Colby Covington, and why he wants Colby next! Plus, Makhachev tells DC he thinks a "big check from Dana White" is why Volkanovski wants this fight. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:36 Eligibility and deposit restrictions do apply. All right, guys, Islam, thanks for checking in with your boy again. I appreciate it. I'm here with the champ, Islam Mahachev. And I'm here with this new belt. It's beautiful, man. Yeah. I'm very proud of you.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I think it's look nice more on my... You want it back? Yes, please. I've been having it for five minutes just a little bit. Oh, so heavy. It is very heavy. It's heavier than the original belt. Original?
Starting point is 00:04:13 This one is original, brother. No, no, this is new belt. This is original. Your belt is fake now, brother. Old school bullshit now, yeah. It's antique belt. Antique belt. Your belt is fake now, brother.
Starting point is 00:04:24 This is original. Oh, you got to fight. You have gold watch, brother? I have a good. But you have to fight a tough guy this weekend. It's okay. You got that belt. You better hold on to it tight.
Starting point is 00:04:34 That dude's tough. Again, brother, I just beat him again. You just beat him again. Of course. It was a tough fight, though. Yeah, it was tough fight, I agree. He's a good fighter. He's a strong, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:47 For this guy, if you want to stop him, just you have to turn off the light. Like knock him out? Or knock him out, make him sleep, or he's going to fight. We keep trying. We never give up. I cannot say this about Olivera, but about Wolcanozky, I know. He will fight.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You think Olivera would have given up? Yeah. But this guy won't. No. I never see. But he weighed 180 pounds the other day. Before? When he got the fight, he weighed 180.
Starting point is 00:05:20 But you can do this, too. But he's a big guy. You know what's kind of crazy? The other day when we were talking, I was joking. I said you weighed 200. That's not true Now everybody thinks you weighed 200 pounds Never brother
Starting point is 00:05:33 You never weigh 200 I am not on your side And Habib's side But I'm always in good shit When he was fighting 155 Habib was like 175 Right now who do you think Habib win?
Starting point is 00:05:44 My boy 183, 184 At the most Habib's in phenomenal shape Now yes Because last month he's training hard With us That's why
Starting point is 00:05:56 Dude So you're fighting Volkanowski again this weekend. Yeah. Last fight was in Perth. This fight is in Abu Dhabi. Now the crowd will be on your side. Do you feel like the crowd's reactions played a part in the way people viewed the fight? Like he was actually...
Starting point is 00:06:11 So many thought he won. But if you watch it, you won the fight. Do you feel like the crowd played a part in that? Of course. All his... He missed punch or he landed all the crowd. Oh, they go like this, you know. That time, every thing.
Starting point is 00:06:27 on his side. Now like exactly just change everything on my side. And you know, this time I want to finish all this, what the people say, what the people talking. After this is right, I don't want to give some questions to the people. Do you think that you overlooked him last time? Because when we were on that interview, you, we were talking about his wrestling, you laughed at him. You said he was too small. Do you feel like you might have underestimated him a little bit? Not underestimated, but I'm surprised. His wrestling skills, his grappling skills, but I'm not underestimating because he's a champion.
Starting point is 00:07:08 That moment, he's a pound-for-pound king. That's why it's no one, like not anyone can be pound-for-pound. He said that he's got to finish you this weekend. He said that he's here to finish you. He said that he has no time to show you respect. He's got to go out there and he's got to finish you. When you hear Alexander Volkanowski saying these things speaking in those types of absolutes, what does that make you feel? Brother, make it feel same, but everybody from my last, how many are points, everybody wants to finish me, kill me, do something.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But I won't always. He believes it. I looked in his eyes and he believes. How? He believes it. He believes that he has to finish you this weekend. brother I don't give any chance
Starting point is 00:07:58 zero chance for this that he finishes of course but who is who can finish me no one no light weight
Starting point is 00:08:06 no water weight no one can finish me he feels like that's his path to victory he said that he kind of feels like
Starting point is 00:08:14 Alexander Volkanusk when you hear him when you hear him he feels because of such a short notice first fight I can throw all this fight
Starting point is 00:08:22 he won just last minute that's it why he not finish me all this first fight because of what because the people in the Australia or or all but here it's everything is different everything on my side that's why I want to finish him so when you when you think of Oak and you think of him taking this fight on 12 days notice it does release the pressure of many
Starting point is 00:08:54 don't expect him to win he can just be free in there do you feel like he's even more dangerous but I don't think he's that just my opinion I want to be honest my opinion this guy come for the money they give him good check and that's it and he still if he lose again he's still champion his division that's it and he fight in January he don't have some problem to come make some good money and go back to Australia, that's it. And beginning his training camp, finally. You don't believe that, man.
Starting point is 00:09:33 You don't believe that he's here just to get paid. Brother, 100% why he come to Abu Dhabi. Just make money. That's it. I think Dana gave him good check. You're crazy. This is true, brother. This is true.
Starting point is 00:09:52 This is my opinion. Your opinion. But Islam, When we look at you and we look at Volkanowski and you guys are both so dominant, fans get excited as they should. But when you say he's here to get a check, I mean, that kind of like, kind of describes him a little bit. But I told that this is my opinion. Maybe someone thinks else, but he don't have any risks, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:26 No, he just came, he don't put his belt, nothing. If he lose people, gun talk again. This guy come from other divisions, small, like this, and that's it. So it's a Norwin situation for you? For me, it doesn't matter. Alex, Charles, Gaichy, who is gonna be in front of me? How many days were I just want to defend my belt? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Because I like my look. It looks really nice on me. It does. It looks really nice on you. You have dominated the division, and I believe myself that a part of the reason everybody thought the fight was so close was because none of your fights are ever close. So when they see someone having success in any way, shape, or form, they feel like, oh, this guy's beating Islam. Yeah, yeah. Because I am not smashing there.
Starting point is 00:11:20 As much as you smash the rest of these guys. That's why the people are talking. but when I watch the fight again I just see I won all this round just three or four what do you think you want three or four percent my opinion I won the four rounds and I just give him chance not last round I just give him chance to last minute and that's it I actually got somebody I got a text from somebody yesterday said that they thought you won four or five rounds somebody very into this sport thought you won four brother you can watch I won four rounds and four minutes you can watch again.
Starting point is 00:11:55 You have some analytics. Can you do this? Analytics? You're using big words now, huh? You're a smart guy now? You're coming for my job? You try to take my job now? No, no, I don't want.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You make... You try to take my job now? Watch the fight again and... Oh, you want me to give you my analytics report. Yeah, yeah, make people know. Make people know. Yeah, I'm not doing that. What?
Starting point is 00:12:18 The fight happened already. I don't know. Okay, okay. I'm going to finish your job. Second fight is going to be different. You think you'll dominate? Yes. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
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Starting point is 00:14:30 I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you think that you can actually use your wrestling and your top pressure in the way that you normally do against him? Are there different ways you have to approach taking him down? No, but nothing. It's not surprised. Everybody know my skills. Everybody know my wrestling.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I will use my wrestling, take him down, hold him. and this time I'm gonna make him tired there and finish him when that when Charles Oliver fell out did you think it would be vote because Dustin Porre said he said yes to the fight too did you think it would be a pourier or a Ghi or did you expect it to be Alexander Volcanowski because Dustin said he said yes I'm down honestly no I think they give me gum rot or Gage or someone but I really happy when they say Walkanovsky was gonna be a again because soon or later it's this fight have to happen again because you
Starting point is 00:15:55 think he'll keep beating the 45 ponder's because people talking people want all the fans want that's why do you that people think that the fight was so close make me yeah make me a little bit nervous because I don't want to some close fight with anyone yeah I want to moll everybody you want to dominate yes yeah like I did over time. And now you're talking about going to 170. Alexander told me that he wanted to take this fight now because it feels like the division's moving, right?
Starting point is 00:16:30 So Charles is in line, Gaichi's in line after winning the BMF championship. And now you're talking about going to 170. How closely are you watching Covington and Edwards after you say you defend your belt this week? I will be there. I will be sit close. You're going to Las Vegas?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Yes. I have to watch this fight. And maybe from these two guys, someone called me, I will be ready. In the first time, I don't know who is win, but I hope Colby win because he won't this fight. Colby wants that fight. He keeps talking. He keeps talking, though. He said you won't do it.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Why? I'm beginning to say about this. That's why I want Colby win because I never said. say, Leon say about this something. That's why. I think this Colby is gonna be big fight for the fans, for everybody, and we will show money. And big money.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Paperview. You love pay-per-view, huh? No, I don't love. You love pay-per-view. You're rich guy though. No. Honestly, in Australia, brother, we don't have good. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah, because Australia, time has changed, like, too many things, man. I can borrow some money? Brother. You got pay-per-view money, you know? I don't care about me. You know, brother, I have a rich guy with me. If I need money, I ask him.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Who? Habib. Habib's that rich guy, huh? Abbe's that rich guy. Steve's that rich guy. Champ, before I let you go, I would like to have you say to me the truth about the United States wrestling team this year. Be honest, be honest.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You did not expect this. When we were texting, when we were all texting, we put four guys in the finals, and you guys all said, watch tomorrow. USA has four silver medals. Oh, this is Habib said. No, you guys said we'd have four silver medals. Instead, we had four world champions. He's not expected.
Starting point is 00:18:38 U.S. team is good, but. The best. We won the world championships. Brother, please listen. If you calculate all medals from Dagestan, Dagestan beat all world, brother. But do, do, so first off, you guys are cheating. You're wrestling for the team with no name.
Starting point is 00:18:58 The team with no name. The team with no name, you guys are... Brother, you're talking about the gold medal. Dagestan guys are wrestling for Azerbaijan. Dagestan guys are wrestling of all these countries. That's not fair. Because the competition inside the... If you ask people come to Dagestan,
Starting point is 00:19:14 they even, brother, don't want the... Dagestan World Championship. But how can you say that whenever we're one... world champions when you send your kids we have five world champions when you send your team to the Dagestan like wrestling team what happened please brother don't talk about wrestling because Dagestan beat everybody in this Islam there are 10 weight classes we had six world champions how did Dagestan win more world championships in us because we calculate but everybody from Dagestan won more medals more medals
Starting point is 00:19:45 more world titles more goals No, that's not true. This is true, brother. You can check. And Russian guys from like two years without the international experience, my boy is the coach now. Gatsalov is the head coach. Gatsal is just changed now. It's going to just go up, up, brother.
Starting point is 00:20:08 That's why next Olympic games. They don't get to wrestle again. Yeah, that's a problem. That's a problem. That's a problem. But it's good for you, brother. have some chance. We've won two world championship team titles in a row, bro. You guys did say, though, oh, watch tomorrow, USA get four silvers. Instead, four champions. This is just first days, brother.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The world championship, three days. After the nobody from US, see the gold medal. Did you see whenever Kyle Snyder, did you see with Kyle Snyder beat the boy for third place? You see what Kyle Snyder beat your boy for third place? Kyle Snyder beat your boy But they see how Tajidino beat Kyle Snyder? No, but did you see how Kyle Snyder beats Sad July?
Starting point is 00:20:55 12-0, brother. Hey, you guys all saw Kyle Snyder But don't talk about Saddalae, don't talk about the Snyder but just Dagestan team, brother. You have to be, you have to say this is... I thought it was a good one. You know who I thought would be tough
Starting point is 00:21:10 the 133 pounder, but then my boy, who? Bito Arousal, got him. That guy's good, huh? He's a Russian guy. Yeah, I know, I know. But also he's from Russia. So y'all take him too.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Guys, Islamahatel fights. UFD 294 against Alexander Volkanowski. Let me get that. Yeah. It feels nice on it. U.S.D. 294 Alexander Volkanowski. Make sure you guys hit that pay-per-view buy button. Watch my man.
Starting point is 00:21:37 The finish. Don't blink. A couple more slips. And we'll go there. Oh, you promote guy now? You promote guy now? By Papyru. money don't watch the
Starting point is 00:21:50 Islamahatio. Thanks for checking in champ. Thank you man. Thank you. Good to see you man. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
Starting point is 00:22:11 This week my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's
Starting point is 00:22:35 the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle Christ. Listen to Superhuman on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black.
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