The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Israel Adesanya FIRES WARNING SHOT at Du Plessis: "I'll take his head off"

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

One of the most decorated champions in UFC history, Israel Adesanya, makes his debut on the Daniel Cormier YouTube channel in the latest edition of the DC Check-In! Izzy gets into his beef with Dricus Du Plessis, and why he doesn't "hate" Dricus, but still wants to put him out Saturday night. Plus, Adesanya talks to DC about the original confrontation between him and Du Plessis, and what that means heading into this fight. Izzy also gets into his struggles in the Sean Strickland fight and what went wrong for him his last time in a UFC octagon. And don't miss Cormier and Adesanya get into golfing, grounding and much more! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Guys, the last style bender's back. How's it feel, man? You know, 11 months. It's never 11 months for you. How's it feel to be back now? Feels refreshing. But for me, a lot of people were saying that, you know, it feels like it's been 3. years, but it's because I was

being too... Exactly. As he hasn't fought in two months. Yeah, what's wrong? So, you know, the game kind of missed me and low-key, I kind of missed the game a little bit. Wasn't it nice, though, when you said, you said I'm done till 2027? And the whole world went crazy. Right? I mean, we're on ESPN talking about it.

We are... Everybody's talking about, like, you really walking away to 2007. To have that type of influence in the game must feel good, too, though. I guess so, but for me, just made me realize how silly people are, how internet full of stupid people. We buy everything. I'm like, that was a joke. I said it to Oscar, I think,

is it like sarcastically. Yeah. And I saw headlines about it. I was thinking like, yo, this is, they don't read the tone. So I just let it ride. I was like, whatever. Well, that's the problem, right? So a lot of times we'll see an article and I didn't see the interview. So I'm like, yo, he said, headlines, clickbait.

They start talking about the things that you say without necessarily having the context. Context. Context of what you're saying. So, I finally got you to do this I've been texting you I text you I hit you up on today man

I'm gonna ask you every single time because so many people have said they wanted to see us sit on they wanted me to talk to Israel to Sonia so many my son loves you you have a connection with young fans like not many in the sport does when you came to

MMA was that a point was that something you wanted to do did you want to make that connection with the younger fan base no really no for me it was more about just expressing myself as I do. And I guess me being, I have a young spirit, you know, and people can kind of relate to me in different aspects of my life.

So, yeah, it's nice to see that the younger generation fuck with me. They do. They really do. And they appreciate the way that you are, the Naruto. Yeah. Is it Naruto? Yeah, Naruto. That's one of the things, I guess, anime.

Anime. For me, like, look, that's one part of myself. Because I did this interview with New York Times, a phono one, my first one in a long time. And this was last week. And this guy from New York Times, bless him. He's a nice guy, but he only asked anime questions. But that's not like the old, that's not all of you. Exactly.

It's like people try and put you in a box and just think, right, that's him. He's the anime guy. I'm like, yeah, that's something that I do enjoy. Am I off time? Or, you know, like Fight Week, I've been watching Windbreaker. That's a new one, which I enjoy. I've been playing Death Jam, Fight for New York. That old game?

Yeah. Shout out to Steve. Shout out to Luca as well who brought my PS2. That's an old-ass game. So I just beat Ice-T. That was my first boss. So my best, most favorite game on PS2. So I've been jamming that. And people try and put you in a box just for a reason,

but you have to realize not all of us can be fit in the box. Not all of us are just bots. Some of us are players in this game. That's why, but that's a difference in you, right? You're so different. There are so many layers to Israel-Eythasana is. and I think when people recognize that, that's when you became the superstar that you became.

Because then they can accept you for, I'm not what you expect. I'm not going to walk here to the octagon, hug my coaches and go in and fight. That's what everybody else did. I'm a dance. I couldn't believe, you know, I said something once when you fought,

Rob Wooden confronted, 61,000 people. And I said, Israel, Asana is one of those guys that makes people come together because they've got to know what he's going to do. And you danced out there.

And everybody was like, wow. And then you knocked them out. It was like, I was like, damn, this is what I'm talking about. Yeah, that was, again, special moments. And for me, because in Melbourne, same, oh, it was a different arena, I think, when I fought silver, main event because Raw got sick. And then I tried to do something. And then I was like, no, this is my show, Dana. I'm doing this.

And as I was heading to the octagon, and I did that, I could feel the energy of the place was like, That's cocky, you know, they want to see, they want to see. Like you said, I bring people out because they want to see, is he going to do it or is he going to fail? You know, there's a picture in the apex. Yeah. I think it's a coolest picture ever, bro. With the stance? No, it's one in the apex where you're walking out of the crowd and you're walking.

Oh, yeah, and it's a crowd that is not the most amazing photo? One of them. That is a great photo, bro, because I think it really does speak to what the UFC is. You're the star. You're the man in the arena and all these people. want a piece of that star but that didn't come without you not only having the personality but also the fighting style that drew people in you know you started this thing in a very quick rate right your assent was very fast you went to the championship in no time 16 fights in five years is what

you fought what have you done in this last 11 months to try to reset because it does get heavy I found myself defending you online because when you lost to Sean Strickland I said he's It seemed tired. It seemed like the weight of the world was on you and you seemed tired. What have you done in those last 11 months to try to reset yourself, your mind and your body to go back and try to become a champion again? I let myself really feel everything. That's the thing with me. I don't like to be one of these fucking hippie chicks. I'm an empath.

I was like, no, but I know I'm a very emotional person. I feel everything. So I let myself feel everything and used it. So I hit rock bottom. And again, Dan told me, Dan Hooker, said, said rock bottom is as good a foundation as any. Yeah. So I built myself back up.

My mind, my body. My spirit was never broken. My spirit was always being strong. But my mind and my body needed like to take a break. Because before I stopped fighting for a while, I think it was five fights in 18 months. It was too much, bro. It was like the paper views were like 2.10, 212, 215. It was like it was too much back to back.

And I should have maybe in hindsight. But again, everything happens the way it's supposed to happen. Yeah. It was Sean's night. It was Sean's week. It was his time. It's a beautiful story for him. And for me, it was my time to pull away.

And I did. And I went away, reset. I went down to south of the border in America, you know, had some stem cells, stepped away from the game. I followed a lot of fucking MMA news. I just didn't want to be, like, bombarded with anything. They were fighting just so I can reset completely. And then when I came back slowly, gradually,

and then now our gym has a whole new, like, like a program that we actually used to, like we have rest, a rest week now. Wow. Yeah. In camp. Yeah. Like, not rest the whole time, but like the load is taken away. It's very light.

That's what I'm saying. And I've been making this, not a joke, but like I actually have breakfast now, which is something that I never really did, you know, because I'd wake up and then just roll out of bed, hop to the gym, get to the gym, and then I have breakfast after. And I guess you can call that intermittent fasting, but I was doing it out of just habit for years. So now I actually have Uncle Muz making me meals and then ready, boom, eat, get to the gym, feel fueled up. After that, I have a, you know, snack or whatever, that kind of stuff. So you're finally in nutrition. Yeah, I'm like, I'm 35. I understand the body doesn't work the way

it used to or metabolize things the way it used to when I was 27. So I have to adapt, you know, and I'm sure you had to do you at Ian Korn and helping you out all the time. Because how old are 40, 45? Yeah. You was fighting at 41, 42. Yeah, that was 39, 40 years old. My last fight was at 41 years old. Shit, so that's what I'm saying. You understand how far the time will always win. But you can still delay it if you do the right things, the little things.

And eventually those little things, because they never mattered to me back in the day. I was just like, I woke. You were like Superman. Just wake up and go do it. Yeah, I just knew I beat these guys. But then at a certain point, I realized, like Israel, you have to take account of what you are doing with your body and how are you going to help yourself, even sleep. I'm vamp life.

I used to love to be up when everyone else's asleep because I feel like I tap into different feelings and different energies, but then now I actually get good sleep, you know, get my aura ring on, lets me know how I slept, that kind of stuff. Living like an athlete. Yeah, at 35.

Unbelievable that you did what you did, and you're saying that you didn't necessarily look out of those things. So, rivalries, right? Rivalries in sport is what sport is built on. But there is a time where rivalry can be almost become uncomfortable, right? And Jones and I had that.

Well, we talked about our families and we got really nasty with each other. Some of our Kabib and Connor was very nasty. You and Drake is Duplice, in that interaction between you two and the Octagon, got a bit uncomfortable where you guys were going back and forth. Not for you. And he said the same thing.

I told Jones the night before we linked up, because we talked about a lot of stuff and I said, watch this. Watch what happens to me. And he's like, you serious? I'm like, watch this. Because I knew what I wanted to say and I knew the reaction I wanted to get from that interaction. And I got what I wanted. He was uncomfortable.

He didn't know really how to handle it. Yeah. People outside watching going, I don't know why. His race is such a- It's such a slippery slope, right? Like, did he eat? We called him a guy. Yeah, nobody was touching. White man, the nigger on TV.

Like, people would just get really uncomfortable about it. But I was like, well, if I was a little. over time, no, I'm like, I've never met an African who had to say I'm a real African. Yeah. He feels like he he feels like in that interaction, you were emotional and that's a victory for him. He can win

that one. I don't really care. I'm not trying to win those interactions. Yeah. But for me, it was I got what I wanted from that interaction. And again, like I said, if you are from the continent of Africa, you shouldn't have to say I'm a real African. Francis Inganam, Kamar Usman, any black person from the continent has ever had

to say I'm a real African. And Razak, actually, before his last fight. He came back and said it again. No, everybody is like very... Razak really like doubled down on something that was really important, which is about people who had to leave to make a better life for themselves, even before fighting. Yeah. Like Francis, they're going to say he's not a real African because he had to leave, you know, Cameroon.

Francis's story is the crazy story of all time. Get sent back to the desert six times to die and it makes it out alive. You're going to tell me he's not a, he's not a champion. Are you going to tell me he's not a real African? And he doesn't understand the privilege he has to be able to train and live in South Africa. Yeah. And again, just for me, it's not the whole thing of the story, but it's part of it. It's the reason why we're here.

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available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I gotta be honest with you and I told this to Dracus too. I said my family, my family are my family. They hate him. They hate him based on the things that you said because we're black. Right. So that became a part of the story. But ultimately, while I don't know if you have real hard feelings towards Dracus.

He says he doesn't have any towards you. But at the end of the day, it draws people in, right? because that extra something to the fight is what's making people go, I got to see these two dudes that hate each other. Fight. What are your feelings about Drika's DuPice? I don't feel any way about him. I don't hate him as a person.

I met him years ago in Thailand and his brother. They were lovely. They were really, I think there were fans back then probably. But, yeah, I'm not a guy who harbors hate like that for someone. But what he said was blasphemous, and I'll make him take accountability for that. Even yesterday I saw it. coach. He winked at me. I walked out to him, shook his hand, shook his team's hand, saw his brother and his wife. You know, this is, this is the game we play, you know,

we're going to go in there and settle the score. But before that, me and him personally, we have our own, I think it's just too, like he's a champion right now. So I have a big spirit as well, big energy. I am Israel. I did so yeah. So there's always going to be like a target on my back. And then with that, it comes this, that clash. It's like two, you know, through alpha is just like looking at each other through the fence like okay let's go then yeah that's what this is about do you love that though do you like isn't that the best isn't that the best like in the day that energy between two guys that feel like I want to show that I'm the man right like when you made you when you first started and you pissed on the cage yeah that was the craziest thing ever right

because it was almost like you were marking your yard and ultimately for it to become a reality show yeah yes yes but it's that energy right and that energy is that energy is is what athletes love and that's where we live at. And we love being in those moments. But to come back and become the champion again, you'd be the three-time undisputed middleweight champion in the world. John Jones has done that. Randy Couture has done that.

Look, it's insane when you start talking about accomplishments, right? And becoming a double champion, which Henry, me, Connor, Amanda did, is more common than someone winning a belt three times. You're up against a massive It's a massive thing to do because nobody's done it What have you done to prepare yourself to not only go win a belt again? But to make history because it doesn't happen I didn't really prepare to win the belt or make history

I'm just preparing to kill this guy Yeah, that's what I've done and you've seen me whenever my Whenever people doubt me or whenever I feel like people forget because again this is gonna happen I'll take this guy's head off and they'll be like damn Fuck he's really damn. I forgot he's really there dude man I forgot because they it's on my Strickland fine people forget straight away they just forget the classics I've given them but then when I go in there this weekend I do what I do then they're going to be like how did I fucking how did I not see this it's in hindsight they're like I thought Drickis was going to just take him down and mall him like he did Wittaker like he did Darren Till it's like nah it's a different beast you're messing with this time again this is this is something that has a little friction to it has a little friction to it like Paulo Costa yeah exactly Alex put it. Look, even the fact that people were telling me like,

oh, he's scared, he's this, and I'm like, look, Alex beat me on the biggest stage in the world, Madison Square Garden, you know, and then he beat me for the third time in a different code, MMA, because he chased me and hunting me down. And I was just like, hey, Dana, let's do that shit again.

Let's do it right away. Like, for me, I know what I can do. I know when I can beat someone. I know when I have that. I know it has a little spice to it. And I have that. I'm spicy this weekend. With this one.

With Dracus. Did you ever expect him to become the champion? Because I got to be honest, man. I was openly hard on him because he does things so awkwardly at times that I never thought he would reach this level. But now I'm like, he must be really, really good. At what he does. At what he does? He's good at being shit.

He's beating everybody. What do you mean he's good at being shit? Because he has everything, not everything. A lot of things he does aren't, I don't even say textbook. They don't make sense. But again, this is arts. martial arts and for him he's the artist of his style

and he makes it work so it wasn't until he beat Darren Till that I was like okay then I have to really pay attention to this guy then I started to pay attention and when he fought Rob I was front and center and I was like okay I was kind of coaching him in my head and then when he dropped him I think I was the only one in the arena who stood

up or one of the only few so I respect his style at being awkward and being I guess disillusion in the way he bridges the gap, the way he sneaks his foot, all these little details I've taken I've taken into account.

But does that style open opportunities for you? Because you're so tremendous at countering. Like it seems as though if the style he fought Sean Strickland with was he beat him with pressure and he overwhelmed him with activity, right? Well, neither one of them was landing all that much.

Sean was landing more strikes, but Dracus was throwing more and he was the one that was on the gap. who's always forward. That style would seem to lend itself to you landing something very bad on them because everybody thinks that Kelvin Gasol was able to pressure you. But then when they all try it, they get knocked out or they get themselves hurt because they're like Kelvin got to that last round you beat the bad.

Then he had to pull, you know, backward steps. But Drickis, look, he's going to shoot. I'm going to stuff it. He's going to feel me. He's going to pressure. is going to be throwing wild strikes, haymakers, but I'm dialed in. I'm really locked in for this one,

so I'll find the shot. I'll find the shot at some point within the first two rounds, maybe three, but I believe he's a tough guy. That's the thing. He can take a lot of punishment. Yeah. But the thing is, that only lasts for so long.

I'm a tough guy too. I know I've got a chin on me. Yeah. I know I've got a chin on me, but I don't use it to fight. I don't, like, let me take two to give him five. That's not my style of fighting. I hit and don't get hit.

That's the name of the game I like to play. But when he's, he's shooting for a takedown or when he's blitzing or he's trying to chase me down he's going to find out i got a couple more before i let you go one in that gaslam fight you became a dog like that last round you said you kind of dogged up like i'm i'm getting this done against perera when he was kicking you in the leg he seemed to have you stuff you got him with the right hand dogged up you're 35 five years old, you've made a ton of money, you've been the champ, you've done everything. How do you pull yourself to that place again? How do you dog up? You wore a dog collar in Miami,

right? For the prayer fight. I was a gently, I was gently unleashed. Yeah, for this one. How do you dog up again like that? If it goes to that place. Yeah. How do you Israel at Asana do that when you got everything? I don't have everything. And again, look, I've done this, done that, bought the T-shirt, it's not about all that. And when I said it initially, I was like, fuck the belt. I'm coming for his head. People don't understand that because they've never done what we've done in the game.

So for me, it's not about the belts. It's about Drickus. He is a champ right now. He's the greatest in South Africa. Cool. Let me test that. That's what that's about. And now again, with everyone forgetting who I am, not everyone, but, you know,

I won't even say it's everyone. That motivates you. I can tell you that. That bothers you a little bit. A little bit. It does, it does. But it's not the main fuel. This is my main field.

The people around me, they're the ones that give me the energy. They're the ones that focus on. But you know what I mean? During fire, I like to sip a little bit of venom just to, you know, get a little taste. But yeah, how I do it? I've done it before and I'll do it again. And I know how it is. It's not about the age.

It's just the experience. I trust myself. I trust myself that when I'm in there and he's across from me. And I have to activate myself. I can. I watched the parade fight again last night. I was on YouTube and I was just like scrolling past. and I watched it, there were certain sequences

I was just like, I was making them move back. Yeah, I was really pushing him back. And for me, I'm so happy with what he's doing right now. I'm like, bro. Can you believe how good this dude is? I know. You fucking these dudes out of these dudes. That's crazy, bro.

Bro, every time I fought him, I knew I could get him. Yeah. Until he got me. And then now here we are. I hope he retires. He killing these dudes. When I told them good luck, I said he went after 12, I was like, I'll like you, good luck.

Now he's huge. How did he make 85? A lot. Amen. Fucking juju works. But they're in a bowl. All of you guys, you look like a big 85 palm and now. You're not as small as you're not as skinny as you were back in the day.

I'm still skinny. I'm like wiry, but I'm like, yeah, I just feel like I've put on some good muscle. Like useful muscle, not really useless, yeah. So outside of the octagon, outside of the fighting, the YouTube channel is doing tremendous. Businesses is doing great. Like, how's life for Izzy outside? Because that's, that is what people want to know, right? know, right? We don't get to see that much. We get to see you on the couch reacting to stuff,

which is always fucking amazing. But we don't get to see Izzy outside. Like, how's life for Ezra-A-Sanya outside of the Octagon? It's chill. It's true. I like to keep to myself, I'm not going to be a social butterfly, but I like to be on my couch. That spot on my couch is my favorite spot on the planet. No matter where I'm at, there'll be some point later on maybe Monday, Tuesday, I'll be like, you know what, I just want to be on my couch right now. Yeah. That's my spot. And also, you know.

Dude, they told me you're playing golf now. Yeah, I mean. I'm playing this week. I brought my clothes. Yeah, you did? I brought my clothes. Like, there's a driving range out here. I've been to once.

But look, I like the pace of the green. It's different. And also, I'm the guy that takes my shoes off because I like to fill the earth. You play golf with no shoes on? Yeah, on the green. I've never seen that. Yeah. Why do you do that?

So I can earth. So I can, like, connect. to the ground. Hey, you ever heard of grounding? You ever heard of grounding? That's literally what I'm doing. Bro, I got some of my, like, a couple guys that I'm in business with. Yeah. They sent me grounding sheets. Yeah, bed sheets.

They were there. They're grounding bed sheets. Yeah. They swear by and I laughed at them. You have them? I used it for three weeks and I waited to see what I wanted to see. Is it a placebo? That shit works.

Bro, one of the guys says that he has it, it goes, the thing goes out to his yard. Yeah. Because he wants to be connected to the earth. To the earth all the time. Even when I was doing the welcome to ceremony yesterday, took my shoes off and I connected to the earth in front of the original people of the land just so I can feel more you know more directly connected to them because this is their land that's unbelievable because I was making fun of these dudes why the ground is shit now it works it sounds like some

it does voodoo yeah but by it works like we're electrical beings we're 80% water yeah so we're very conductive and then we have all these things because sometimes you're being camp for you think what's the last time I touched the tree when's the last time I touched the ground you you you don't realize it's been, oh, shit, it's been four weeks. Yeah. Six weeks since I've touched the ground. So, because you go to the gym, house, gym, house, car, you know. So you have to, it's always good.

I employ everybody. Please, just go. Touch some grass. Take your shoes off and walk. All of you, all of you, all of you want, some grass. They said 45 minutes a day, we're supposed to be connected to the earth. Exactly. For us to be good.

I'm going to start taking my shoes off on the green. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. Wait, Tim, who? You're your manager. What? He goes off.

He doesn't golf. He, him and his brother told me about the club that their dad's a member of. I'm taking them dudes out there and smash. Maybe they do. I'm taking them dudes out there and I'm smashing these dudes. What's the swing like? It's not good. Yeah.

But it's effective. My back? My back. I knew it. It's not good, but it's effective. You know how to work around it. I know how to work around it. I got about a half swing.

Okay. That works for me. Yeah. All right. Cham. Thank you so much for checking me. I appreciate it. Guys,

Israel. Odessingya. Uh-desia. Yes, sir. We also had to sign you, though. I don't mind. It's okay. It's all good.

All right. Israel and Asana takes on Drake's duplice this weekend, UFC 305 for the middleweight championship in the world. You become a three-time undisputed champ if you do, you would make history. I know it don't matter all that much to you, but it does to us.

Guys, go tapping everything the style business is doing. His YouTube channel is phenomenal. Instagram X. You're part of that last generation that does Facebook, right? Nah. Facebook. That's old man. Well, I still go Facebook.

I still use it. I tap him like just. that generic post. I just send it to Facebook. Yeah. But I don't really tap in there too much, too many conspiracies and bullshit. Yeah.

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