The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - John Wood PREDICTS Khalil Rountree KNOCK OUT vs. Alex Pereira, Merab vs. O'Malley

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

John Wood, coach of Khalil Rountree and UFC champions Merab Dvalishvili and Weili Zhang, joins Daniel Cormier for the latest edition of the DC Check-In! Wood gets into Rountree's title shot against Alex Pereira, and why this is the fight that he becomes "the SCARIEST man in MMA." Cormier and Wood get into Sean O'Malley declaring himself the winner in the fight vs. Dvalishvili, and why he's only giving him ONE ROUND. And don't miss Wood's prediction for his guy Rountree vs. Pereira at UFC 307 in Salt Lake City, Utah! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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coach of Marab Duwale Shreli, Al Jermaine Sterling. But he's coaching in Utah right now because he's on the verge of one of the biggest fights of his career as Khalil Roundtree challenges Alex Pereira for the championship coach. Thanks for stopping by, checking it with me. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, buddy.

You know, you know what's kind of funny about you? So I didn't know you very much when I was fighting But I remember being in the pandemic in Abu Dhabi during the whole lockdown And I was like, hey, coach, you think you could hold some pads for me We held pads and that was like the start of our friendship From there to video games I was like Yo, I mess with this John Wood fella

Yeah, no, good times That was a crazy time And actually, you know, through that whole situation I met a lot of cool people and met a lot of new friends and stuff but it was a man, I don't miss those times. No. So you know when we were out there, I knew you were a good coach, but obviously I was just finishing competing.

I didn't know much of your background, but then as we got to talk in, I started to realize, are you held the pads? And I was like, man, I like his flow. He's a fantastic coach. But then it continued to grow and grow and grow. And now syndicate is one of the premier gyms in mixed martial arts. When you look back on your journey, coach,

Did you expect it to be this? I know you had confidence in yourself, but it has grown so fast that it's almost, it's one of those teams that you didn't see coming. And now you guys are very relevant mixed martial arts. You know, that's the funny thing is, is this is my 20th year owning this gym. So it's one years.

Yeah, 20 years. This is my 20th year. 21st year, I think. So we went through a couple name changes, through whatever sponsors would, you know pay me to keep the doors open from 2004 you know so zay's training center warrior training center throw down yeah and syndicate it's it's been me the whole time uh so it's a you know 20 year overnight success uh so yeah i kind of you know we've had so many ups and in

downs and good flows and this isn't the first time that we've had this big push um it's the biggest push obviously when you get title fights you know working with way Lee you know being with way Lee the last couple of fights oh yeah yeah and now Khalil to have three active you know title champions in the UFC or potentially three active

is is obviously puts all eyes on you but um this was always the this was always the plan now that it's happening it's you know it's pretty crazy and surreal to have all this go on but the last couple years went through a lot of changes staff changes

bringing in the right coach and staff, just changing the culture. And that's what really kind of clicked for everything, you know, is making sure the culture of the gym team is together. Everybody's working together. And that's what's really kind of changed the success and the node writing. And that's what's given us this big push lately. Yeah, it's been amazing to watch, man, especially for the good guys.

You know, I was telling someone that recently, I said, watching Marabh, watching some of these guys become champions. So jelly roll, right? We all know jelly roll. Jelly roll is a good guy. And for him to go from where he was to where he is today, it doesn't happen for the good guys very often. So it's always nice when one of the good guys kind of gets his due

and you're one of those good guys. I will never forget you opening your gym to my wrestling team every time we wrestle in Vegas and April. I'm very thankful for that. But ultimately what makes you who you are is your ability to train champions. First one, Marab de Wiles Vili. became the champ a couple weeks ago.

You got Khalil on the cusp. John Wei Lee, who is, dude, I swear to God. I think Zhang Wei Li is everything. Like, she is literally my favorite fighter. She could beat. She's the best. She would beat most men. She is, there's literally like, she's a stud, dude.

She is on a different level than 99% of the fighters out here in the world. And she's, that's what just makes her special. You know, I'm very fortunate. I've been with her for four camps now. So it's been awesome to like have that, you know, and working with her for the last three or four camps has given me, you know, good insight and good abilities to be able to make these kind of, you know,

this title run that we're having right now. So it's been, man, she's, she's an awesome, you know, she's just the best and everything. It gives you perspective, right? Like whenever you train someone like Zhang Li, when you get him a rob or you get an aljo and you get a Kalil, you're like, well, I know. what it took for her to be

who she is. We know how to train these fighters already, but like, now I got to apply some of these same lessons, but they're all different, right? They're all so different. Yeah, I mean, the one underlining thing, first of all Joe's not mine. Algo, Aljo...

Oh, I thought Aljo was with Marab too. Yeah, he floats in and out. He's over, you know, with Eric Nixick and those guys at XC. Oh, yeah, I forgot. He's at Coutor, yeah. He kind of goes around. But the cool thing about this, know, from Wei Lee to Marab to Khalil, the difference that we have is these guys are all very humble. They're all very, like, down-to-earth champs.

Like, Wei Lee, you would never even know if she was a champion at the level of one of the greatest fighters of the world. If you sat down with it, same with Maraub, they're all hardworking, you know, just grinders that do, they're all good people. They're all people that you would love to hang out with. So it's really awesome. It's not hard to be around, but it's not hard to coach them. it's not hard to have that find their flow with them because they're all such good people. They're all so easy to work with.

So I've been very, very fortunate in that that, you know, in my career, especially with this, to have, like I said, that have three studs that are just all great people that are all going to be, you know, well, two that are world champions and one that's going to be a world champion

here next week. You know, are these cold calls? Like, how are these fighters finding you? Because I remember when, We were to, like when we were, when we were rocking and rolling that A.K.A. and Khabib comes over from New Jersey, he comes over through King Mo. Right? Then another guy comes over through someone else.

How are they finding syndicate right now? Like, are they calling you? Is there a manager that's going, hey, Jean-Walee wants to drink? Yeah, all fastest, but it's, you know, this sport. It's who, it's who you know. Being in Vegas and obviously being in Vegas for, you know, my whole life, but 20, 25 years of the fight game. now you you end up people know um i'm not a big um i'm not a big like look at me type of coach i'm not very i don't do a lot of interviews i've started doing it lately just because of you know all

this stuff and you know i've put myself out there a lot so you know but it gets me the people that i want to work with i like a specific you know type of person so i get to work with that but through the you know obviously the p i people coming in through vegas all the time it's a fight capital ufc's there so there's always people coming in and out. So you just get referred. You know, Khalil I've had for, I think, 10, 12 years now. I think his, like, first or second pro fight is when I started working with him. So we've been at it for a long time. Wea Lee was referred through, you know, just hearsay and people at the, you know, like the PI and people through just, hey, so-and-so, and then our manager reached out. It was like, yeah,

absolutely. And we did one session and we hit it off and it went from there. Marab, you know, same thing came to Vegas. I think the P.I. has been pretty awesome because there's, you know, it's just always people are coming in. There's an influx of fighters always coming in. So I think four years ago, somewhere around four or five years ago,

he had stopped in and started kind of training on and off. And, you know, and just kind of stuck around. It's like that little stray dog, we faddened and just kind of come back, come back, come back, come back. And, you know, finally just we kind of slow played it.

And after like a year or two, he's like, hey, you know, this is my place. though. It's just awesome. Like, Vegas is great, you know. We have just such an influx all the time. So it's, you know, there's always people coming in and out. There's so many great things to Vegas.

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They come so few and far in between Like you said you've now stood with John Willie Aliya, she became, got her belt back and defended. You have now still Marab. You're on the verge of chasing down another championship with Khalil Rang Tree. This is a guy, like you said, has been there from the very beginning. That has to mean more because you've seen the process. Because that was a time where Khalil struggled.

And no one ever could have imagined that he would be who he is today. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Khalil is a special unique person. And, you know, when he, when I first got him, you obviously, you could see the talent. The talent's always been there. The natural ability.

The scary dude has been there from day one. So, and there was, you know, this guy was knocking people out. He was knocking out legends behind the scenes and barring, and then you heard the rumblings, you heard this guy was going to be the next big thing. He just, you know, at the beginning he struggled with, like, really identifying himself as a fighter. You know, he's such a unique character, a unique person that I don't know. that he just wasn't ready for it back then. And like I said, I told the story before.

I remember, I think it was, you know, third or fourth fight. He was talking to me about wanting to retire and going to construction. He was like, yeah, I think I got this good construction job. It's going to pay good money. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, bro. No, no, no, no, no, no. I was like, just give me, you know, give me a year. Give me a year.

And I promise you, you do whatever you, support whatever you want after that. Just give me a hard year. and you know through that process the ultimate fighter came you know and he got on there and then that's kind of where he said the spotlight i think for calil the the big picture at the beginning was just too big you know we had to shrink the picture down and kind of just go hey listen you don't need to be all these things that you're supposed to be this next big thing we just need to be you you need to find yourself identify yourself figure out how you get comfortable doing this and it was a struggle and that was really the only struggle was just was just more mentally for him uh we had some ups

had some downs and then you know he moved to thailand after the the go kansaki fight yep um and kind of you know found himself as a person um as a man you know i think he was gone for a couple years and ended up hit me back up and was like hey you know had some success had some ups and big ups and some big downs while he was out there. And he just hit me up and was like, hey, you know, I think I'm ready to come back and he came back. And his, you know, strength conditioning coach, who's a big mentor to him, Lorenzo,

and myself, we all met up. And he's just like, listen, I want to make a run at this. I want to do it. And you could just tell there's something different about him. He had matured. And it was good because, like, the same thing happened to me as a coach, you know. During that process, I got better.

I learned how to work with people a little bit more. and because he's a very like I said unique character and I try to work with all of mine. He dressed crazy too. Oh man, he'd be dressing crazy. I was like boy. Yeah, so like I just learned how to kind of work with him better and it really, we sat down and had a meeting and it's just, it's been nothing but great

since he's been back and we've had nothing but six dad. He's really matured as a fighter, matured as a, you know, as a person as a man and it's really showing. We've all learned how to just work together as a. team. So, you know, this is a big one to kind of go through the path that we've gone and, you know, this would be my first, like, homegrown, you know, straight from the beginning type of thing. So, yeah, it means a lot to me. They all mean a lot to me. And I mean, every fight, I love my fighters. You know, we're a very close, tight-knit team. You know, we all work together.

You know, I'm flying out. I'm flying out two days to go to Paris for a short-notice fight for Vince Morales who just got back in the UFC. And, you know, and that one means just as much to me as the title fights, man. I love all these guys. But this is an awesome experience, you know, and I'm so happy for Cleo and where he's at and what he's persevered to come through to find himself. Is it like I said, not only a fighter, but as a person? And I truly think he's going to go out there and get it done.

You know, I'm first, I'm going to be in Park City next week. There's a great golf course of that I love to play. I've played every time I've been to Utah. So I will be up in Park City with my. finger up in the air like you boozy you're you're you're all so boozy up in park city downwood you're i don't even i can't even really look at you you're training champions you living in park city you're a completely different human being you said that alex perera oh stay with me now you said that alex perera is going to be the first one to shoot

chale sonnan also said calil ronterre is going to knock alex perrera out in this fight said it's the worst possible matchup for him. And then you double down and say he's going to be the first one to shoot. What am I missing in here where I see the guy that's knocked everybody out? The greatest striker to UFC's ever seen, y'all turning him into a wrestler. By no means am I saying he's going to knock Khalil out. What I am saying is all we have seen this dude do is knock people out. But you guys are telling me you're going to turn him into a wrestler.

You and Jill. All right. Well, listen, we're fighting the boogeyman. He's the scariest dude out in MMA right now. And he's going to hold that title for the next couple weeks before there's the new scariest dude in MMA. Like what you see, you know, there's no doubt about it. Alex's special dude. What he does, you know, and how he does it sometimes isn't the prettiest, but that's part of the allure.

I think he and a lot of people sleep on, oh, he does this ugly, he does that ugly. That's part of it. He does it beautifully ugly. And that's how he ends up knocking you out. was drawing you into this, hey, oh, I can capitalize on this. Oops, no, you can't. You know, so we're not going to fall into that trap one.

I didn't say, I think Alex is coming out to shoot. I just said, you said he'll shoot first. I think if anybody breaks, it's going to be him. We're not shooting. Alex, you've seen Alex, Alex, Alex's thought before. Alex took Izzy down. Alex did some crazy shit against Izzy. I always call that wrestling.

He's going to, you're not going to find a tape of a takedown. of Khalil shooting takedowns. Now, can Khalil do taketals? Of course, we do MMA. We don't just train to go and expect like this is a, you know, going to be just this or this that. We're always defending takedown.

We're shooting our own takedown. We're doing everything every day. But you stand and say that if a takedown happens, it ain't coming from our side. It's coming from that side. It sounds like a dangerous game, coach. Sounds like a dangerous game. While your guy can knock him out,

we know that he can knock him out. Of course. I told Johnny Walker this, I said, the fact that you don't know how to wrestle means that you're always only one shot away from getting put out. You've got to have that ability to take people down or at least threaten it. I agree. I agree. Absolutely. That's why, like I said, this is mixed martial arts.

You have to be prepared for everything. But it's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't. If we go out there and people want to see two dudes, knock each other out, and I say, Khalil go out there and let's go knock this guy out. Whatever happens happens. And they stand up. Then it'll be, oh, he's going to start to take him down. Yes, yes, yes. He's like for a arms fight.

Oh, my God. John Wood's the dumbest coach in the world. It's just like for a fight. We should have, we should have stood with O'Malley and just let him knock us out or something like that. You know, people are always like, well, you're here to win fights. Sometimes style is in fights. But you did, John Wood, you fought your fight.

And according to Sean O'Malley, you lost. You fought your fight. Sean O'Malley said, Sugar State Commission has now said he won one three. He's smoking the good stuff. He's smoking the good stuff. They're over there. They're still high from that. So let's not pay attention to what they're saying.

That fight, I don't even think, was, I think there were some judges that were a little even, you know, lenient in giving them a round or two. But I can see that. I can see a four to one, you know, no problem. 4847, 4847 was very surprising to me. Yeah, I'll give them one round. I'll give them one round for sure.

But, yeah, I don't think the Sugar State Athletic Commission is going to hold up anywhere. Coach, I got one last question for you before you go. And I will see you next week in Salt Lake City. I cannot wait. One of my favorite cities to watch fights. Hey, if anything, the things that you say to me, see more likely because I've seen some insane stuff happen in that arena. I saw Kumar Usman get knocked out. I saw Dustin Porre get knocked out.

I've seen some crazy stuff happen in that arena. So for your side, you guys should be looking forward to it. But you've had two different builds now. Pereira and his team are very quiet. Plinyo's a great guy. Glover's a great guy. You guys probably get along swimmingly. That wasn't the case a couple weeks ago as you guys were getting ready for the O'Malley fight at this fear.

It was very nasty at times. Maraub hates the coach. The coach was coaching Maraub. It was a crazy. I mean, there was kissing in the octagon. overcoaching, it was a lot. Which one do you prefer as a coach? Do you prefer to bad blood or do you prefer to more laid back?

Well, we got two guys that are going to fight and we're going to kind of just live in our own world. I mean, I'm not much of a, like, a vocal guy when it comes. I think our job as coaches, sit back and let the fighters do what they need to do. So I try to stay out of that. I'm much more of a, you know, I'd rather prefer the chill. But it does get me fired up when you get somebody talking shit. and going on and do it whatever. It's always fun and it makes it that much fun.

I thought about that of a coach fight. Yeah, yeah. I thought we're about to have a coach fight between you and a... I'm always good at that, man. I'm always good at that. I hope I'm pretty good. But yeah, man, either... They're both fun.

You know, no matter what, I love coaching. It's absolutely the best thing in the world. I can't see myself doing anything other than this. And to be involved in either one, you know, if it's loud, if it's quiet, I'm good, I'm game for whatever, man. And I think it's both. It's both.

I loved it, man. I always loved the, I love the noise. I love the fighting. I love throwing shit. That's why my fights always looked like that. I was always trying to fighting in the cage, fighting in the casino, but it equates the big dollars.

So that's what I love. For sure. Guys, big John Wood is on the verge of coaching the second world champion in less than a month. He's in the Park City, Utah right now, getting ready for UFC 307. as Khalil Rangree takes on Alex Pereira. Guys, John, thank you for checking it with me.

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if you want to train with the best. Until next time, peace. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?

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Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva,

and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be? I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to futas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes? They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try.

So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with the merry men.

They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real House Wise franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the T, everybody's talking about.

To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The story I told myself can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.