The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Kamaru Usman CALLS OUT DC and media: "They forget I'm still THAT DUDE!"

Episode Date: October 21, 2023

Kamaru Usman has heard the doubters talking, and he's not holding back ahead of his massive co-main event fight at UFC 294 against Khamzat Chimaev. The Nigerian Nightmare is ADAMANT that he has plenty left in the tank, and you've got to hear what says Usman wants to do after fighting Chimaev! Plus, Kamaru gives his fresh take on Colby Covington vs. Leon Edwards and how he thinks it goes down at UFC 295. And don't miss DC challenge Usman to a wrestling match! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Eligibility and deposit restrictions do apply. Guys, 2X. I'm here in the Nigerian nightmare. Kamar Usman steps in on a week's notice to take on Hamzaa at UFC 294. My brother, It's nice to see you, dog

Thank you for checking it again My very first check-in It was with Kamara Usman Did really well So appreciate you always Doing these with me Man, you ain't really kick nothing back though

You know You do not need any money Look at, I'm mad What you mean? The fact that you would actually act As though you need money I was in Miami with you You drive a Mayback

You don't need money You drive a Mayback You drive a Mayback No I don't You do not need money Do not insult me. That was a rental. You're lying.

I was a rental. I knew you was coming and I knew what you was accustomed to. So I got a rental. I swear on my life. Don't be lying on here. I promise you, Kamarushman's third cars of Mayback. You've been known to lie already. It has like 200 miles because he goes, I don't drive it unless I go to Miami.

And he laughed. Look how he smiled like that. Yeah. You know how you smile like that? You're just going to lie on God right here? You drive that Mayback. It was beautiful, though. You're going to lie on God right now.

I seem as pretty riding that thing, too. I wasn't in the Mayback, though. What was it? It's not talking about that right now. Tell what that was. What that was? I'm going to ask Gaitchie, because him and I, both were walking around the street. Like, can you believe he has that car?

We both, me and Justin Boat were like, can you believe he has that car? That's not true. Hey, man. You can't talk to Justin right now. You know where he drive now. I cannot believe it. It's red, too. The whole red car.

Like, what is he doing? Colorado. In Denver. Denver. You want to talk about a dude that don't know how to have. with his money. What a red car. A red card.

A red. He ain't clashing. Duff. I can only imagine how many maybaks you're going to buy with this fight person. You're getting this time. For a guy like you, 10 days notice, I know it ain't about money. But what goes into that decision to fight Hamzaa Chamaia? Because right away, you're like, yo, I'm in.

It's the same decision that we make every time. You know, when you were wrestling, I was wrestling. Yeah, you get nervous before those matches, but there's an element of danger that's not there. That's in fighting. You know, once you switch over to fighting, there's that element of danger that scares you. You're nervous. But guess what, DC, you made that walk every time. Every time.

Every time. No matter how nervous you were, you made that walk. And same thing here. You know, of course I got the call, I'm like, ah, I'm a little nervous. But there's excitement in there. There's all of that built in. Oh, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.

Let's do it. I can't imagine what you felt, you know, having to fight Anthony Johnson, you know, my brother. That was like about five or six weeks. I always got some time, you know, like 11 days. I just spoke to Vulcan is the same thing, right? Short notice. Both of you guys as champions, step up, no question. What is it about this matchup that is intriguing to you?

Because you called his name with Breto Camano while back. Like, hey, this the guy. Like, this the guy that I want to fight. Like, what is it about Chimaya? that excites you like that? Well, I mean, it's the, I think it's the opportunity to compete with someone that is so highly, you know, anticipated everyone so high on.

You know, you rarely get that opportunity. You rarely get the opportunity to be in a, in a true fist-a-cuff fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You rarely get that. And I've been in, I've been in a couple now. You've had those. Yeah, I've been in a couple now.

You've had those with Kobe. You've had those with Leah. And so there's just something about that Kobe fight, that there was something about that moment that was so primal to where you want to feel it again before you walk away from the sport. And that's what I'm hoping I get from this. I don't like when champions, like you start saying stuff like when you walk away from this sport.

We don't want to see the end. I know we don't want to see the end, but what? Do you want to see me broken? No. We don't want to see that either because when you're broken, everyone says something different. They forget about the past. You forget about what you were at your end. I want to go out when I want to go out.

But before I go out, I'm about to cause a little bit of chaos. Yeah. Yeah. Hamsat Chimayev is a guy, you and our friends, obviously, that when we spoke off air before, we knew at some point you'd have to deal with this guy, whether it was 170 or 185. Why is right now the right opportunity to be fighting him? Well, of course, I wanted to deal with him in our wake, respective weight class, which was welterweight. But is he a welterweight anymore?

That's the thing. he's no longer well to him Why is he still then? You know, I do my thing. But it was just one of those matchups that you go through the roster looking at guys and people started saying to me

what else is there? You should just retire. You beat everybody. You fought everybody. What else is there? You fight Leon again. You fight Kobe again. Fight Burns again. Everyone kept saying that to me. So the more you hear it, the more you hear it kind of sinks in a little bit. So I'm sitting at home, and one of the biggest things is this is not just what I do on the weekends.

This is not just, this is my career. So I'm not just sitting at home waiting for a fight before I get in the gym. I'm always in the gym. And so when you're always in the gym, and then you start to really think, okay, what is it? What is it? This was a guy that was like, oh, everyone's so high on them. And I potentially see a chink in the armor. So it's my job to go in there.

and have him learn from that. Camaro, you're a long-standing champion at Walter Waite. You've always had ideas of becoming a champion in middleweight, didn't want to fight at Asan, you know. Strickland was a champ now. Was it a guarantee that you win this fight? You fight for the belt? That's what I heard.

Because that's like, it's like that happens in wrestling, right? I will be the assistant coach if I'm the next head coach. Is there a guarantee? And did that guarantee help you say, you know what? Yeah, I'll do it. Initially, no, I didn't. I only heard this after. Okay.

I'm telling I get the call. I'm walking through Target. And I'm like, well, you shop at Target? Isn't that me back? I mean, I, I'm seeing your clothes. You do not shop at Target. Stop lying to people, man.

So I'm at Target. Stop lying to people, I get the call. And I'm, within two minutes, I'm like, holler, Ali, I'll call you back. I hang up. I text a group. chat with the coaches and everyone I'm like hey guys we got to talk I call them like hey actually I

think I called Trevor called Trevor I text Henry because I knew Henry's at practice I called Trevor hey and he didn't no one talked me out of it you know because when you make that when you make that call usually your coaches are now we need time we need this nobody talked me out of it yeah that's I hang up I hang up. It was almost like I already knew what I wanted to do. But for their security, I said, you know what?

I'll sleep on it. I hung up. I made a couple calls, a couple of texts. Hey, be at the gym tomorrow. We're going to spar. Gil Burns told me that. Gil Burns said it's a wrestling day. What a snitch. You know what a snitch. I've seen the video too.

He said it was a wrestler day. He said he's like, wait up, wait. Come on the cave. They got a couple dudes in there with him like, wait. what's going on and then you got the news. I, I, so you went in that

without telling everybody on the team. Nobody knew, but the coaches. I went in there, sparred. I told Ali, let's do this. And you got a guarantee

middleweight title fight. Yeah, so I heard. Hamza Tchamai of is a unique individual. That video yesterday, he just staring at you. What was going on there? I don't understand what was that.

I like how they, they put this side of, by side. Obviously, we're not, when you have an interview, you're not side, you're not face-to-face side by side, but I saw it after. I mean, I didn't really, you know, he's obviously cutting a little bit of weight now. Maybe he's feeling it a little bit and he's just, of course, when you're feeling that weight cut, I know how it feels. When I get down the Welterweight and then you've got to sit there and do all these interviews, at some point it's just like, oh man, I've been waiting for a year and a half and just, I just want to fight.

Maybe that's what's going on in his head, but it is what it is. It doesn't waver me. He doesn't shake me any way. On Saturday night, he's going to stand across from me. I'm going to stand across from him. And we're going to exchange Fistica. Do you think he attacks you in the way that he attacks these other guys? With the wrestling as aggressively as he does normally? I think so.

I think he has to try. You don't know unless you know. Yeah. You know, ignorance is bliss. So you might think it's going to work on everyone until you get in there and you try. And it's like, ah, that's not working. Maybe I need to pivot. You know, we'll see. I'm prepared for it all.

You know, if he stays, if he does that, he does that. If we wrestle, we wrestle. If we strike, we strike. It is what it is. I'm going to punch him. He's going to punch me. Someone's going to fall. Kamara, you said earlier, you're 37?

36. 36. About to be 37. You said, as you start to hit the tail in, because we don't want to see you broken. It makes me think to myself, this is a crossroads fight, Kamar Usma, right? after the fights with Leon Edwards going up with an opportunity to earn a championship fight? Is this a crossroach fight where it's like either you go forward and become a middleweight champ or if it doesn't work out, we have to figure out what happens next?

Is this a crossword, Kamar Usma? I don't put that pressure on yourself. No, I don't really care. I don't think so. When I'm, when I was, I beat RDA or Damien Maia and these guys on the way up, you know, And potentially having the opportunity to fight for the title. It wasn't like, oh, this is a crossroad fights, win this, or you go, I don't care. You know, there's only one direction and that's forward.

Whether it's win or lose, it's one direction, that's forward. And so this makes no difference. I chose to do this. So it makes no difference. We get in there, we do what we do. And that's the thing, too, that's crazy to me, is how quick things change and people forget. People forget. I'm just asking.

It's our job, right? It's like, when in the fuck, dude, we get to this part? I'm just saying. You know, you're, you're. I'm tasked with asking you the questions, though. But it's not just you. You're putting it on Leon Edwards, and I'm talking putting it on it. In the free, yeah, yeah.

Putting it on Leon Edwards. There's what, 50-something seconds left. Yep. He lands a beautiful kick. It could happen. Anything can happen in the fight. Yep. And then the next fight, even with, even with where, my,

head was that which I that's not an excuse it was that and he's the world champion right now so now all of a sudden all you everyone's like oh well maybe he's not that guy should retire I don't think he should retire when is everyone saying that when the when do we get to this point I just told you I don't want you to retire damn like when did we get to this point but I I hear it and I feel it I feel it just because I feel it I'm like when no I'm still that mother I'm that dude I'm still in 2017 I told him I was a bad motherfucker.

Yeah. 2019 I told him again. And I'm still that dude right now. I'm still that dude. And you're going to show it this weekend. Yeah, absolutely. Because that, a victory in that situation reminds everyone. Yeah, but that's the guy that nobody wants to fight.

Yeah, but at this point is why do I even care about everyone? I don't care. Everyone's going to have their opinion. But you just told me. It was when you just said that you can feel the people. I feel it, but I don't care. Does it motivate you? I don't care.

No, but I can see you kind of get like, yeah. I don't care. You want to hit you. I'm going to hit you. You want to wrestle me? Okay, maybe not hit you. You want to wrestle me? Yeah.

You know I've been beating your ass since you and fucking, I've been whipping your ass since 2008. You can't get in the stance for a minute right now. I'll pull your, yeah. Yeah. How could you sit down? How could you sit down? I don't back don't work no more. I don't back don't work no more.

A little back don't work no more. I get it though. I get it because I've had those conversations myself with people and having to kind of remind them of the same thing. Hey man, this dude, there's still that dude. He's still the guy that he's doing this

because he believes he can win this fight and go get a middleweight championship. Before I let you go, Leon that wasn't Kobe Covington fight. Kobe Covington wins.

Do you say, hey, I'm too up on this dude. I want a shot. And do you think Kobe Covington wins? Who wins that fight? It's an intriguing fight. I think Leon is just in a position

to where he doesn't get as much he's a bit underrated and his career and his careers kind of just been like that you know

and so I give him credit you know he is tough he's very very good he's good at the things that he does and Kobe's good in a different way

MM math does not check out you know being honest um Kobe could have much more success with it with the way that he fights you think Kobe once um I can't say that

Honestly, I cannot say that. That's that good a fight. I told them that of all the title fights, that's the one I'm most interested in. Yeah, I just don't know. That one, be honest, I just don't know. Does Leon believe in himself or no? And, you know, can Kobe? Is Kobe still the same Kobe?

I mean, he's fought me twice. Tough fights. Tough fights. So is he still that same Kobe coming to? And we'll find out. But, you know, before I walk away from this, my goal was to. I might get two of them.

You're going to be double-chered? I might get two and slide out. Can I have something? Yeah. I mean, I mean, look, hey, hey. Back-up, back on. Show this one. Back-up.

No, I'm very humble. I'm very humble. I know you. I love you. Please. Look, I got on my little sneakers. You know what I'm very hard. I'm not wearing a Nijja jacket.

How y'all say that? Na'ja. Na'ja. Na'ja. Remember that song I sent you from my radio the other day? Oh, that point a day. See, this is what D.C. does. What you mean?

This is what he does. This is what he's so good at. What? This is why. Hey, this is why you sit here right now and not my man. That's my man, Brett. This is what he does. What I did?

You know what you do. I like that song. Kamara Usmaud's mom fights. I'm Hot Jemayo. U.S. 294 main event. The former champ has his eyes set on another title at 185. Make sure you guys buy the pay-per-view.

Hey, we are seeing two great champions take risk. And that's what this sport is all about. Like, subscribe, tapping everything tomorrow's doing. But make sure you watch the fights on Saturday afternoon as tomorrow. Take some harms out, Chima. My brother, thanks for checking in. That's awesome. I don't know what that is.

I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. Do what y'all be doing? My man. That dude is a man. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends.

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