The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Max Holloway wants to RUIN Dustin Poirier’s PERFECT UFC retirement

Episode Date: July 19, 2025

Daniel Cormier is BACK with another episode of DC Check-In with Max Holloway ahead of his BMF title fight against Dustin Poirier at UFC 318. Max talks about wanting to play SPOILER to Dustin’s retirement fight in his home state of Louisiana. Max then talks about his loss to Ilia Topuria, and how he eventually wants a rematch for the lightweight title. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You've been around the world now. Yes, sir. Louisiana food. Where do you rank it in the top, top ten? Oh, brother, top five. Top five. In the world. In the world.

Louisiana food. Yes. I couldn't even enjoy it yet. He's not even enjoying it fully, but what you've tasted is like. That's so good. I mean, I took bites of everybody's stuff here. You know, like this guy right here, he always, he always try it.

You can't tell me now. Hey, what did you have? Hey, what did you have? What did you have in? I've been just taking bites of. Donuts too? Harder me good. Yeah, see, I always having it.

It's all good, huh? It's so good, man. Anything I see, I'm like, bro, I need a bite. It's the best, man. Oh, yeah, bro. But you're not here to eat just yet. No, not yet. How's the weight cut going on?

Oh, great. It's not as hard. I mean, the last time you interviewed me, you could see my chip going, bro. At 145, you were dead. It's terrible, bro. Why were you so insistent on going back down there? Especially after you looked so good in that fight against Justin, you were like, insistent that 145 was the way you needed to fight at?

I just wanted to do my thing, you know. I mean, they promised me one. I thought I had the number one contender. I beat the number one contender at 55. I was like, okay, I go back through my thing, go get another belt, and then come back up, grab another one, you know? So, you know, things didn't pan out that way, but it is what it is. The man who beat me last is not a champion of this way class, so I look forward to the challenge.

So before we move forward, I have to ask you that, like about that last fight, right? I know how disappointing is, you know, you have been in the locker room with me after what happened to you last time as I went to your locker room last time after that happened. First time that's ever happened in your career. How was dealing with that? how was bouncing back from that. And like, when you look back on that, right? Like, what is your, what is your thoughts in regards to the way that fight ended and how you move forward with it?

I mean, it happens, right? I mean, I felt it wasn't like he was like just having his way in there. I felt like I felt like it was a- The other day they said one of my buddies was like, I'd pick Max in the rematch because it's not like he was just kind of going through him. Yeah, I felt, I felt great in there with him, you know, and we was, I felt like we was competing. It was competing.

That's all you can do. And it is what it is. At the end of the day, I hear him, it's something that, you know, my body felt like, hey, look, you know, like it's time to go down, you know. So it is what it is. It's fair play to him, but we see what happens,

you know, no excuses for that fight. Everybody talk about the weight cut. Everybody talk about anything, bro. That's what the most point to, like maybe it was because you suck so much weight back down. Yeah, but, you know, I made the weight. I did the choice. You know, we fought there.

It is what it is. I'm not going to take nothing away from the man. But I'm here working hard. He got something that I want. You know, I want to join the elites like you and being a double champ. I think so there's only like 10 now. So if I can come the 11 or the 12, that'd be great. Yeah.

Was it a hard process, though, moving forward from it? Not at all, bro. You know, I was sad. I was sad in there. You saw me after. I was sad. I was beat, I was whatever. But it spilled milk, bro.

What we're going to do? Keep crying about it. Keep holding it. Keep thinking about it. Even everybody talking about, I see the media. I see everyone. I'm like, how he's going to react after this, you know, for this next.

next fight. They did not get hit? I'm the same man. You know what I mean? And like everybody's going crazy because I said something, they didn't watch the whole interview, but I said something about Gachi's, I said Gachi hits harder than, uh, than Elya. But I, what I said was, I felt Gachie's punches and kicks more than Ilya. When I was in there with Elya, nothing was like, oh my God, this guy hit so hard, you know? But obviously, at the end of, they didn't, they didn't wait to the end of the interview because I said, obviously, he hit. It's hard because I was on the ground. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, the click beat my ass. Isn't that amazing how they do you? No matter what you say, they always like spin that shit and all of a sudden, everybody's mad at you because they think you got sour grapes about aliens and boys. Yeah, I know. It is what it is, bro. But at the end of the day,

MMF fans are going to be MMF fans. And I just got to move forward, you know. Yeah. You know, with this being Dustin's Last Dance, when New Orleans, where he all started it, it's great that they did an event for him here. But like I said, it sucks to be spoiler, but for 25 minutes, come Saturday night. I got to go out there and get my hand raised.

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longest span in trilogy in USC history. He told me earlier, it's hard to take much from the previous fights because so much time passes between every single one. Do you feel the same way because it was, what, five years between the first or seven years between the first two, and then six years between the second and the third? Do you feel like you can take much from what happened in Atlanta? Not at all. Not at all.

I mean, we're both different people. We're both different sizes. We just grew as human beings, period. So not only our fighting skills, but even the way we carry ourselves, you know, we grew. We're young kids when we fought first. The second time we fought for the interim title, it is what it is. And now is this time, bro. We're so different.

If you looked at his fight when I fought him for the interim title title and you look at his title fights after that, he's a different best employer, you know what I mean? And I'm coming back up to 55. I'm not a 45 or, you know, it's not even in the back of my mind. I'm going back down to wait. So he knows that I'm going to be a different animal coming there. You spoke about the first time you guys fought, you were carrying a little bit of a little bit over the waist and stuff

because you were just getting back. I had my D.C. body suit on. Do you remember that one? Dude, you are so dishing. It happens every time. I had a D.C. He just doesn't want to make fun of it all the time. But yes, you had your C-Sudu, though.

But you remember that one time, even then, like, you were kind of stuck in between that. When you were going to fight Kabib, you were so big that it was hard to even make the way 55. But then when you fought Justin, you look like a completely different person. Yeah. Like the diet has changed. Everything's changed. Now you're a lightweight. How can the fight be different?

Because what happened in fight number two, at least to my eyes, was he got out ahead of you and you had to work yourself back to the fight. Yes, yes, yes. How do you make sure that that's a fight? doesn't happen this time where you take the lead early as you didn't adjust the gaitie fight i mean my favorite words we have to find on saturday night you know at the end of day with the gaiti with the with the uh with the uh kabib fight that was like a you know really short noise that was like a couple of days with uh with the uh with the uh Dustin's second fight it was it was like five weeks or four weeks something like that kind of short noise but not really you know i mean so

it is yeah it is yeah it is what it is yeah i got a wife now too so so she made sure you know she's she she knows how I look and she compared our pictures like we can't have you looking like DC outside of camps we need to get here it's like body shot after the body shot I was like you know me bro we gotta work the body first so at the day we're going out there with Dustin and yeah I know I saw he said that he was saying that he want to beat me to the punch be first and be that well I want to do the same thing so we go out there should be fireworks and it's it's gonna be a on. It's this man's last dance. We're expecting the best us and purier there ever is going to be.

You know, you're in your home time. Bro, he got a little Wayne walking him out of heard. That's crazy, huh? He, bro, you got a little Wayne, you're in your home time, you better put it on a show. So when you're in the octagon and little Wayne's rapping to the octagon, what are you doing? Do you pay attention to that? I'm walking out second. You're second?

Bro, for sure. Why wouldn't I have the title? Oh, no, you got to go. Yeah, come on, but this guy playing favorite to him. on the radio. So here's the problem. Everybody act like I play favorites for your ass. I know. You don't have got me fired before before you.

I know. I know. That's terrible. Dude, yeah, it does best. So don't be that favorite to do some shit with me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, I got, so you're in the back. He won't be.

I really jammed enough. I wonder what song he's seen. Did he say? Did he say what song? Yeah. Told me. Is it secret? No.

What is it? Is it right above it? Is it yours? Because I used to walk in that song all the time too, so I love it. It's a great song. It's a great song. but you want to know? I want to know.

You don't have to wait until that. Just like everybody else. It was a good one. You don't have to be. You have to wait just like everybody else. That's a good one. So Max, the BMF title is now not just when it started. It was a bit of a prop, right?

Yeah. Nate Diaz and George Mazmadol were nowhere near the title fight. It wasn't, it didn't really matter. But you guys are elite level fighters. You've elevated the BMF championship. Do you feel like by beating? Dustin Porriate, defending that BMF title, you can immediately go, hey, I'm over here. I have a history with the champ.

I should be right back into that title conversation. For sure, you know, at the end of the day, you've been in the sport, and you've been around the sport long enough to know that everything is about moments. If I can go out there, have another 300 moment, you know what I mean? Especially with, yeah, especially with Poirier and him being in his last dance, even in, you know, his city, where he's from, that'd be a... He's not from here. Oh, yeah, he's from New Orleans.

He's from Lafayette. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brayette's a city on the place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're from Lafayette, too, so, yeah, yeah. There's some favoritism in that. I do love Lafayette more. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

But, you know, at the day, it's all about moments, man. If we can have this moment, we can make it big, who's to say, you know? And if it's not the next one, then, you know, feed me one more. You know, I've seen, I was happy, you know, when they announced the title fight between Taporio and Oliver, because I had history of both of them, you know, so. And then I saw in the media and stuff, Olivera, you know, kind of saying that he would like that rematch, like down back, you know what I mean? So at the end of the end up, I like my odds of who I'm going to fight next. So we see what happens.

I just got to go out there, do my thing, get my hand raised. What do you expect from Saturday? You expect the crowd to be, like, loud boo? You expect to be booed? Max Holloway didn't get booed. I hope so. You know what I mean? If it was in Hawaii, D.C. and I was fighting, you're the most likable guy.

You know what I mean? If it was in Hawaii, I was fighting you, it might be what better be booing your ass. See what they're going to be booing until I beat that ass They'll be like DEC No no no They'd be like DEC, DEC, you know that But I hope so You know, you know, you got to do the man right, bro

He's over here, he's representing the United States They booed my ass, please And you like that, though I mean, it is what it sucks here in the booths But it comes with that territory, right? He's his last dance In his home state Dude, I better to move my ass

When you got the cordified Dustin and he said, did they tell you immediately it was going to be in Louisiana or did they tell you it was up in the air when you got to call that, hey, this is his last dance. He's rolling out there in his hometown for a final fight. Like, did you like go, well, I don't know if I liked that. Like, you know, like, no, they said it was Dustin. And then they said they had a couple places might be Louisiana. So I was like, I went to a smoothie King Arena to see the dates.

And I called it. Like, had, there's like, what? Was the hot wheels did this last week or? next week. There was like something next week. It was last week or next week? It's last week or next week, but then everything was filled except for this week. So I was like, we're probably fine in Louisiana in July 19 and here we are. All right, Max. So this is a trilogy, three years, three years, or 13 years, sorry. You've been in the trilogy with Volcanowski. Yeah, let's not bring down all that. Nobody. Terrible. But I'm saying nobody has been into a trilogy that they've not won.

any of the six fights. I know, bro. Have you thought about that? 100%. That's what everybody talking about, oh, what about being the first guy to defend the BMF title? I was like, brother,

I'm trying to be the first guy not to be 0 and 6 in a damn trilogy in two different ones. So that's crazy. You know what? If you could lose, well, you can win Saturday

and you're still probably going to lose a trilogy so we got something because I lost two trilogies too. Who the hell are you lost it? Jones and Steve-A. They both got me in trilogy. Oh my gosh.

But you got wins, though. You got a win in them. I only fought Jones twice, but you don't get a third one when you lose two times. Unless you're max. Yeah, bro. Yeah, bro. I'm here, bro. You were super popular.

You just got over it. So what is it? Is there pressure in that, though, like going to get that victory, making sure that you don't have that? Because, like, you're one of the greatest fighters of all time, right? You hold so many records, but that's, like, one we don't want. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I don't want that record.

But it is in the back of my mind, but at the end of the day, it's just another fight. man. It's just another fight. We've got to go out there, oh and all. My mindset is on Dustin Poirier. I know it's his last dance of everything. It sucks. I need to be spoiler. But like you, like you said, or like I told you, bro, he took my undefeated streak. He took my 13th fight-win streak. I think we can call it even, and I take his retirement fight. When the BMF title is defended or won, somebody special puts it on the champion. Somebody asked me, who I thought should put the belt on you. I said either your wife or Rush, because I know how hard it was after that last fight.

Who would be the ideal person to put that BMF title on your waist if you won on Saturday? I would say, if I had to be between them, I would say rush because of the first fight or what happened, you know? Or the second fight, actually, with the interim title, that would be dope. But if I had to say, I'll make you put it on. Yeah? Home State guy, you know, you're here.

You're going to interview my ass after the fight anyway. Put the damn bad on me to it. I would strap that bitch on you. That'd be cool. That'd be good. Let me be a part of this show. You know, man, man. Thank you, man.

Thank you so much. Always. Always, thank you, by the gentleman. Guys, Max bless Holloway, fights Dustin Poy this weekend, made a event at UFC 318. Go follow Max. Go to his YouTube, subscribe. Subscribe to his streaming platform to his game and stuff.

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