The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Michael Chandler declares: "I'll knock out Conor in the first two rounds!"
Episode Date: June 27, 2023Michael Chandler talks to DC about the much-anticipated fight between him and Conor McGregor, and Chandler believes he'll fight Conor in the next 6 months, and will knock him out in the first two roun...ds! Cormier talks to Chandler about future fights against Charles Oliveira and Islam Makhachev and why he can beat both superstars in the division and become UFC champion. Plus, Chandler gives us insight on McGregor pushing him in the face in this season of The Ultimate Fighter. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Daniel!
Am I at the top, Mike?
Because I'm seeing you.
You're right at the top, baby.
You're right at the top with me, dude.
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No, you're a great golfer, man.
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That's all the matter.
I'm getting better.
I'm getting better.
I'm getting better.
So, Mike, I wanted to check in with you because you're doing the ultimate fighter right now.
That's an experience in itself.
But it's also an experience to be doing it with Connor McGregor.
How has it been dealing with McGregor?
Because that was the agitator.
my season because Steve is kind of a normal, cool guy.
I would try to agitate him.
How is it being on the opposite side of being agitated?
Because it seems like McGregor is a guy that wants to get on his kid.
Yeah, you knew, you knew Connor was going to be that guy.
And that was, that's why everybody says, okay, how did you, how do you prepare for the
ultimate fighter?
And truthfully, I didn't have a lot of time to prepare.
It was a five day, five day period where I got to call that it was happening and I had to be
in Vegas five days later, which means I had to put together my team.
team and then all of a sudden you start thinking, okay, when are you going to see Connor the first time?
How is he going to react? How is he going to respond? How is he going to, how is he going to start
downloading and taking notes about how he's going to get under your skin and become the
notorious Connor McGregor that he is on ESPN every single week? It was, it was interesting to
say the least. Obviously, Connor and I, the deal was when we started the show and the deal still is.
we were going to fight each other. We're going to fight each other after the show.
So the competition, our fight, which would be months after the show airs, started the day that we
set foot down in Vegas, right?
Yep, yep, gamesmanship, mind games. I wanted to beat them at every turn. I wanted to beat him
in every single fight and then eventually beat him in our fight when we do fight. So it was interesting,
man. I knew Connor is a black belt in verbal jiu-jitsu. You know, he is a good. And you
saw on that first promo that they aired, you'll do what you told right away.
I thought it was a great line, good for him.
And you've seen a little bit of back and forth banter.
And obviously you see the promo they keep putting out there for the push.
Well, yeah, what is he like, he hits you?
He actually, like, mushes your face?
Oh, yeah, it was a face push, man.
Nice big face push.
So it's, uh, that was.
He pushes your face.
Did you want to kill him?
Yeah, well, no, not really.
Because to me, to me, it's all part of the.
game, right? To me, it's all part of the
showmanship of who he
is and whatnot, but I mean, I will say
I was surprised at how Pistie got
after, which it'll come up here in these next
couple episodes, people will see it's going to be nice and fun,
but, you know,
it was a heated competition, just like when
you were a coach, you want to win every single fight.
When you lose, you take it personally.
And he wasn't, he's not winning to this
point. He's not winning. Yeah, so
Connor's been losing in the
show, so, you know, and
he himself, maybe doesn't take it that
personally, but he does. He wants to win. So I, uh, he, you know, blood boiled over.
Mike, let me ask you this question. And I've been one of the people that have kind of said it,
you and I are friends. And I try to judge things as,
as I can't, even if at times it's like saying something in negative about my friends.
You've been called the Arturo Godi of fighting. I've said that there's a much safer way
of fighting. But I've also gone on record and said,
Hannah McGregor will want to fight Mike
because Mike's going to stand with him
and Mike will ultimately give him an opportunity
to make it a competitive fight.
Do you feel, first off, that is disrespectful
that we say that?
And do you feel like that's why
Kanye McGregor says, I'll coach the ultimate fighter
with Michael Chandler because ultimately
you will fight him in that way
that gives him the best chance
and that's in a stand-up fight?
Yeah, you know, no, I don't take it
as disrespectful that people call me the Arturo Gotti.
I mean, ultimately, Arturo Gotti
made people feel something.
And that's what I'm in this sport to do, right?
I'm here to collect a nice big paycheck from my family.
Can I say so?
Can I say so?
I love that you said that.
Tom Jervasi is the guy that does the research for the UFC.
He has a vote at the boxing Hall of Fame.
He said something very similar.
We were talking about Hall of Fame
because I was in this whole thing with the Jim Miller
and I got all this shit for it.
he said he got shit from voting Arturo Gotti in,
but he said Arturo Gotti made him feel.
He said, so Monday, you might not be talking about Floyd Mayweather
at the ice cooler or at the cooler or at the coffee shop
talking about Arturo Gotti.
And I'm telling you, bro, two times I've heard that.
And now I think back and I'm like,
maybe Jamila is a hall of fear because he makes you feel something.
and I guess it's not an insult to be the archer rule guiding.
Because people do feel after they watch you fight.
Yeah, and ultimately that I feel like, you know,
obviously I'm not a big, hey, make all your decisions based on your feelings kind of guy.
But you've got to look at the X's and O's.
You've got to look at black and white results and all of these different things, of course.
But ultimately, why are we friends with people?
Well, they make us feel a certain way.
Why do we choose a certain profession?
Why have you continued to do what you're doing and continue to broaden your horizons?
Yeah, you're making a paycheck and yeah, you're making a name for yourself, but it makes you feel
something as well. Why did I marry the woman that I'm married? Why do I do? Why do I do
do? Almost everything we do goes back to how it makes us feel, whether it's contentment, joy,
peace, entertainment. We're in the feelings business, making people feel something. Yeah, maybe I don't
win every single fight. Maybe I could fight a different way that people want me to fight, but I'm making
people feel something, and their butts will be in seats. They will buy the pay-per-view.
And ultimately, when I knock out Connor later this year or whenever that fight is, people are going to feel something.
I'm going to continue to plant my flag as one of the best lightways to ever do it.
And I still think I'm going to wear UFC gold before I retire.
So I'm in it to make people feel something.
And ultimately, you know, I have the life that I have because I make people feel something.
And that's for a guy like me, right?
The guy that's always saying, Michael Chandler could be more safe.
Michael Chandler could do this.
Connor's picking him for this reason.
He's out there and knock him on.
You prove everybody wrong.
But like you said, we get into what's supposed to happen.
You said this year or whenever it happened.
Because like Ben Asker and I did this thing, one of your, you and Ben wrestled together in college, right?
And we did this thing where we did a show.
And we talked about your guys this fight.
We had a countdown.
Because there was 24 hours left for Conner to get in the Yusada pool in order to fight at the end of the year.
What's the latest that you've heard on the fight?
That you can share.
I understand.
I know the workings of the back stage,
but whatever you could share,
what can you share about the fight?
And how annoyed are you that it isn't happening?
Because if we know one thing about Michael Chandler,
Michael Chandler is active.
And by doing the show,
and by fighting Connor McGregor
and waiting for Connor McGregor,
which I do believe you should,
do not fight anyone else,
wait for McGregor,
how annoying is it that you're having to wait this long?
And what's the update on the fight?
Man, so I can't give you much of an update.
Obviously, yeah, there's talks going on and happening basically every single day.
It is a moving target.
And I do understand the intrigue.
I understand the annoyance for a lot of people.
And I understand how quickly people want answers.
They want answers and they want them now.
With a fight of this magnitude, two of the most exciting guys in the sport, obviously
it's Connor and his comeback, the greatest comeback in combat sports history.
He's calling it.
He's got his documentary.
A guy like me who loves to fight.
I love being active.
I'm a guy who puts butts in seats.
Of course, everybody wants answers.
They are eager for answers.
But ultimately, we all have to practice patience.
This, for me, is a time right now for me to practice patience.
I knew what I signed up for.
I knew doing the ultimate fighter, then there was going to be a lull in a long period of time in the show.
We aren't even halfway through the show yet.
So everybody who wants to answer, you got to remember, too, we're not even halfway through the show yet.
Yes, there's been some stuff happening between me and Connor.
Yes, there's all the speculation and all the things.
different, you know, conspiracy theories about is Conner coming back? Is he not coming back? Is he
partying too much? Hey, you saw this, you saw of that. You know, either way, I'm a fighters,
I'm a fighter's guy. I'm a fighter's fighter. There's a reason people love to watch me fight. It's
a reason they tune in. I think Connor's coming back. I don't think he wants to sustain his legacy
by leading us all down this road of, I'm doing the ultimate fighter. I'm fighting Michael
Chandler. Oh, by the way, never mind. I'm not coming back. Makes you buy my title sport and
my Irish whiskey and all that kind of stuff.
He's coming back.
Yeah, supposedly there was a countdown with Usada six months and all that other stuff.
That's not for me to choose or decide.
Has there been exemptions before?
People are talking about exemptions, of course.
That's all on the table.
All I know is I'm controlling the controllables.
And I also know that either way, I'm going to keep on moving forward.
And I do believe I fight Connor within the next six months.
And it's going to be one of the biggest pay-per-views that we have ever seen.
And I'm going to go out there and knock them out.
within the first two rounds.
Yeah, it's going to be a tremendous fight between you, too.
Mike, guys, Mike, I got a couple things I want to get what you on.
I want to get what you on the lightweight division as a whole a little bit.
I want to talk to you a little bit about Islam Mahachev,
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Mike.
If Tomahev is one of my friends.
He's a champion in your division right now.
And his assessment of the division to me is very funny because he's so matter of fact.
But as you know, you and I have experiences with Russian in restaurants.
is just how they speak.
Do you think that the division, when they hear Islam say things like the BMF title is for bum and all this?
What does that make guys like you who does say the BMF title fight is a great fight between two real high-level competitors?
What does that make the division feel when they see him talking in a way that he does?
No, I completely agree with you.
Yes, people can read it as a headline and they can read it or they can even listen to him say it,
but he doesn't have all of these different adjectives and all of this different.
He doesn't have all of these weapons in his English tool belt, so to speak.
So, yeah, he has to speak very black and white matter-of-factly.
So, yeah, he knows, he gets to the point very quickly,
whereas some of us kind of dance around it just to hit us hit you with the punchline,
where he just like punchline, punchline, punchline, which couldn't take a lot of us off.
And Islam and I have had our spats.
I would love to share the Octagon with them.
obviously Connor is my number one goal right now but man
I would like to knock out Connor and I want to fight Islam
I think Islam and I know I didn't prove it my last fight
obviously I lost to Porier obviously I'm not going to get a title shot
coming off of a lost of Porriere but if you beat McGregor
badly if you beat McGregor
yeah no trust me I'm going to get a lot of crap
people talking about you all here goes Chandler talk about the title shot again
Dana White privilege and all this other stuff but dude
I just want the biggest fight possible I want the
biggest platforms, the biggest fights possible.
And you know I'm always going to deliver.
Can my wrestling, can I my good old fashioned passionate Division I wrestling beat the Dagestan
Osama?
Can it beat the Dagestanian wrestling?
I don't know.
We may never know, but I would like to know.
Yeah, it's tremendous, man.
Like, I'm telling you, when I look at this division, it is one of the deeper divisions.
But then we also had a conversation the other day, Mike, about this.
People were arguing and we were debating, and this was actually one of the, actually one of the
the guys on the fight card, him and I were going back and forth, about Lightweight versus
Banim weight. People say Bannamweight is the best division in the UFC now because, and only
because at lightweight, the top five hasn't really changed. Is that just a credit to you guys
and the staying part or is it because the division maybe isn't as deep as people want it to be?
And this is me, right? I'm a TV guy, Mike. So I'm always trying to draw out this.
So I might seem a little disrespectful. But this is the question.
Bantam weight, because think about all the changeover that Bannamweight has had since you got to the U.S.C.
And by lightweight, it's always you, Pori, Gai, Gaiji.
Mahatja is the only guy in the top five that Charles Olavera, it's always been the same guy since 2018.
So does Bannam weight rise above lightweight because of all the young guys that have now pushed their weight in the top?
Yeah, no, I think lightweight is still a better division.
And I will say, I mean, I don't know who is outside the top five in the Bain and weight division either.
And maybe that's just me not being enough a student of the sport.
But obviously there's been a lot of changeover.
And in our division, once again, I think we make people feel something.
It is the most electrifying division in the UFC.
When you think about the resurgence of Charles Olivera 2.0,
when you think about the highlight reel himself, Justin Gaichie, Dustin Poiray,
now they're going to rematch each other for the BMFL.
You got Isla who came in was exactly who he said.
said he was. He wasn't who we all
thought he was. We all said Islam's
going to falter. Islam isn't as good as he's talking
which goes back to him being
very matter of fact and very black and white
with what he says, but he has proven to be
the king on top of the division.
But yeah, ultimately, man,
now you got Connor coming back.
Obviously he and I are both going to fight a welterweight,
but we're both still lightweight
that hard, if you will, he thinks he's a big
now, but he's still a lightweight.
Is he actually big? Is he actually big?
He looks big like on
TV, but, like, I haven't seen him in person.
Like, is he actually, like, a big guy?
He's not as big as he looks on Instagram and that kind of stuff.
I will say, you know, I just think people see me and him next to each other,
and I think when we look about, I think we look the same size.
I think I'm actually a pounder or two, a couple pounds heavier than him,
because I think I'm against him.
He looks like Scott Steiner.
Remember when Scott Steiner got, like, super big and he was big pop-a-pump?
He kind of looked like, he looks like Scott Steiner when Scott Steiner got like really, really big.
Last thing before I let you go, champ.
Charles O'Levara, bro.
That performance in Vanilla Darius, did you see that coming?
Like, did you expect that?
This dude somehow just keeps on, like, I mean, he might fight for the belt again, though,
because he looks so good against Vanilla Darius.
Like, how is he doing this?
Like, you guys all seem to hurt him so badly,
and then he finds a way to come back, and he fights him the way that he did.
Who could have ever expected that against Vanilla Darius?
He completely wiped him out.
Yeah, man, it was tough.
I think part of me and probably everybody wanted to see Bineal win for the simple fact
that he's been on this run, he's never gotten the title shot, you get through Charles, you
get that title shot.
You're a good guy.
You're a good guy.
Yeah, and Bineal's a good dude.
He's got a good reputation.
He's got some great highlight of real knockouts.
He's been at the top five of the division for a very long time.
But Charles Oliver just won't go away.
And that's a guy who, you know, talking about the ultimate fighter.
would have been on the veterans team.
The guy who got cut.
The dude almost got cut from the UFC.
He missed weight a couple times.
He was up and down with his
performances. He was, I think
he's one of the biggest stories in
mixed martial arts because he was
kind of a, you're not
that good of a fighter. You can't really show up
on the bright life.
No, yes, he definitely is now. That was
who we thought he was a couple years ago. That's who I
thought I was fighting years ago. I thought it was
kind of a luck thing that he, who did he
beat back then? I think it was, Tony
Ferguson or something for me and him to fight for the title,
whatever my... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to go out
there and break him, dude, and then he beats me. He beats
Poria. He beats... Yeah, he beats... Yeah, he beat Gagee.
All of... I mean, Charles Olivera 2.0 is a force
to be reckoned with, man, and I want to... I want that rematch.
Obviously, right now, I'm still focused on the counterfight, but
I think I beat Charles Olivera.
I think I beat Islam. You know, you know how
we talk to. We think we beat everybody, right?
You're in the middle of all. Charles is great.
Yeah. And you're in the middle of all, does.
Like you're in the middle of it all, man.
Like you are the man, Mike.
Thank you for spending a little time with a man, checking in.
And we're going, see you at the top.
Let's see you at the top.
I love that.
I don't know where the fuck you got that.
I don't know why you got that.
But you make some shirts.
Like, see you at the top, bud.
I got them, dude.
Zig Zigler said.
Yeah, I cannot.
I can't, I'll get you a shirt for sure.
But yeah, I can't take credit for that.
That was the great, one of the greatest,
the greatest motivational speaker of all time.
Zig Ziglar,
he wrote a book called See You at the Top.
said to you at the top all the time.
He is the man.
So I don't take credit for it.
See you at the top.
Yes.
I want you to see you at the top.
That's my boy.
Over the top.
Yeah, dude.
My boy, Mike Chandler.
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