The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Michael Chandler on KNOCKING OUT Paddy Pimblett, Dustin Poirier BEEF

Episode Date: April 12, 2025

Michael Chandler officially makes his return to the DC Check-In series! Daniel Cormier and Chandler talk about his massive co-main event fight at UFC 314 vs. Paddy Pimblett, and why Saturday is a MUST WIN for Chandler. Plus, Mike addresses the beef between him and guys like Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje, and why he believes they might not like him. Chandler also tells DC he LOVES Pimblett dismissing him ahead of the fight and appreciates the confidence from the up-and-coming star in the UFC. And don't miss Mike break down his loss against Charles Oliveira and how that fight has helped him going forward in the final stretch of his career. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Guys, Michael Chandler. So, backstory. I was in your sleeping on the ground. You were. Dude, that's bad. No, it's all right. You walked up on them in the corner in full slumber. Yeah, you got to get a little nap in when you can.

I heard you took a red eye, man. I took a red out last night. Played golf in the morning. Big mistake. Would you get straight off the plane and go straight to the coast? Dude, I landed at 745. Grab my bag by 9-10. T-N-all.

That's savage material. You deserve a little on that. I'm tired, but I'm going to bed after this. But anytime I get a chance, talk to Michael Chandley, you know I'm on it. Thank you for checking it with me. My brother. Appreciate it. Mike, another big fight.

This time, it's a little different. Right? Because before, it's usually big-name guy, right? This time it seems like it's a younger guy, up-and-coming guy that's trying to really make his name. We went to the decision to kind of reach back, right, like and fight a guy that's below you in the rankings. I think there's a responsibility. You know, at some point, I've had five fights in the UFC, every single one of them. You know, it happened one other time I fought Tony Ferguson and he was ranked higher than him.

But other than that, man, it's been first ballot Hall of Famers I've been fighting, you know? And at some point, you know, you probably may have felt it in your career, like the fans are getting a little antsy. Like, hey, you can't just sit around and cherry pick and only fight guys ahead of you. Now, I never chose a fight. Maybe I picked a couple here and there, but like the UFC's always offered me fights. And then when this one came around, it's like, hey, Poria had to fight Ben-Was-Saint-Den. Beat him and they got a title shot next. Yeah, yeah.

I forget that. And Gaci had to do it with Fiziv. At some point, you got to fight someone. who's ranked, you know, lower than you. And here we are. When did they come to you with this fight, though? Like, when did they come to you and say, hey, they have this idea of you versus Patty Pimbley. Because honestly, when you are a guy like you, that's not the easiest conversation.

Because, like, I know you want the title fights. Now you want the big fights. When they went to you with Patty Pimilar, were your original like, ah, well, okay. No, no, because I, I mean, yeah, I said yes right away. I was like, yeah, I like, I like the idea. I like the name. I like the brand. I like the idea.

I knew we would get to this point. Yeah. This might be the most exciting, the most fight that people are most looking forward to on this card, even though we have a title fight in the main event. This could be the people's main event, a lot of people. I've heard that.

Somebody said that to me today. Yeah, you know, so it's kind of like, it's a big fight. And at some point, it's like, hey, I'm coming off of a loss. You know, I had my opportunity. I beat Charles in November. Yeah, you fight for the belt. Fighting for the belt. Yeah.

I didn't. I got a fess up to that. I got a pony up to that and I got to say, okay, okay, I'll fight Patty Pimbley. With that being said, it was brought to me in like December, January, but I needed to heal up a little bit, need to do some PT, some rehab after the last fight because I hurt my leg in the last fight. So I'm good now. So I'm glad I said yes to the fight in April and here we are.

Getting to fight a guy like this, when you look at Patty Pimlet, right, for so long since he got here, anytime these guys come with hype, everybody starts to wonder, When's he getting knocked off? When's he getting knocked off? But this kid has stepped up at every opportunity, right? And most impressive was this fight against Bobby Green. So when you break down Patty Pibble, I'm talking Michael Chandler to fight him,

but I'm talking about the analyst, the guy that can step outside of this thing and look at it for what it is. What do you see from this kid? I mean, I see confidence, first and foremost. He's confident in himself. He truly thinks, you know, he's been saying it in interviews and I have other interviewers and say,

hey, Patty said this earlier, he believes he's going to walk through, he's going to beat you in too. I mean, I want a guy who believes in himself, all right? This is what we do. We've been competing with our hands. Whole life. Yeah, our whole life, right? So I want the toughest competition. I want the best Patty Pimbleau on fight night.

But that being said, I mean, he's going to come out. He's going to throw wild punches, or at least that's what he's done against guys that he maybe wasn't intimidated by. I'm not saying he's intimidated by me, but he knows my track record. He knows I'm a dog in there. So we'll see if he does do that. And then on the ground, he's pretty slick, but his last fight was Bobby Green. No, you know, with all due respect, I'm better than that. Yeah.

I throw bigger punches. I will not get caught in those submissions. I think I'm better on the ground. I'm stronger on the ground. I'm a more strong human being, a strong body in there in a different presence than he's ever felt. I'm not saying he's going to sink or swim. It remains to be seen. But he's never felt the likes of me.

Is there a, is there a, uh, Is there a world where your approach is a little different with this kid? Because the one thing that stood out to me when talking to the kid is in my research, I don't think Michael Chandler is as good a wrestler as everybody gives him credit for because he's an all-American. We think he's such a great wrestler, but I believe Charles Olivares exposed that. And I think that I can take him down. I said, you think you're taking him down at his body.

I said, maybe you can barrel him and throw him to the ground. He goes, no, I could shoot a single dog. I go, you think you could shoot a single leg on Michael Chan and take him down. He goes, yes. But those opportunities present themselves if you overextend yourself. Is there a world where you start a little slower? Yeah, maybe, maybe. You know, I mean, I think I started slower against Charles until something happened.

Yeah, you start fighting. First round, you know, and then all of a sudden my entire family. was taken away from me. The whole 12-week, 10-week training camp I did was predicated upon a certain type of style and then my body failed me in that point and I found myself backing up or I found myself, I mean, if you look in the fifth round, man, after I had Charles hurt, I threw a left hook and my left leg wasn't even on the ground because I wasn't putting any weight on it and did a complete 180. What happened? I hurt my leg in that first exchange, the first grappling exchange. Yeah.

But three months of rehab, PT, multiple times a day, a couple days a week, has got me back and I'm good. So, yeah, it's unfortunate, but I was able to take a lot of things from the Charles fight. And I think things that the fans may not have seen, and you don't really know unless you're actually in there. But I made some strides and I made some improvements mentally and spiritually, like, different as a competitor in that fight. Inside the fight. Inside of the fight where I was like, okay, we're doing good. We're growing still. And if you're, you know, my age and you're doing as long as I have and I'm still growing, that's a good thing.

And I think this fight is a perfect opportunity to show that even more. And we'll see. But there's a world where I'm calculated, but there's also a world where I go out there and knock him out. Because it would seem, right, we've seen you hurt everybody you fight and it seems as though his key. Patty's never been in there with anybody that hurts him. I think the key to this fight is making him feel uncomfortable. Did you guys pick up on that in the bill? Yeah, that's kind of my goal at all times when I'm fighting a guy.

I mean, whether I'm fighting a guy like Gatju loves to be in the firefighter, or I'm fighting, you know, a pourier putting pressure on him or fighting any of these guys. I mean, I want him to, it's 100% certainty. He's never fought a guy like me. So there's that question mark, right? So then once he gets in there, I want him to feel my presence and feel my pressure right away. Does he sink or swim? We'll find out.

Now that doesn't mean I'm going to go crazy. Wild and do some of the other stuff that I've done in other fights. But then again, maybe it does. We'll see. All right, guys, UFC 314 goes dollars in this weekend from Miami, Florida. And once again, I'm parting up with the Draft King Sportsbook to give all new customers a fantastic offer. Sign up using my promo code DCTV, bet only $5 or more and get $150 and bonus bets instantly. Look, we have a title fight between Lopez and Volcanowski.

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Speaking of you, contemporaries, Porriere and all those guys, what is going on with Dustin Porrier? And I got to tell you something about Justin Gates you, though, about what he said, right? Because they're just kind of attacking you. Like what is going on in that? And like, why when you guys don't have anything together? Why do you think right now is the time that that's, because I saw a video on Dustin Portier seemed mad.

But I'll tell you what Justin Gatesy told me when you tell me what, what do you think is happening? I don't know. I mean, I could care less, honestly. Yeah. It's one of those things where we're in the sport. We get asked questions and we give answers on the fly and we talk about what we talk about.

I'm not really that worried about it. I mean, I've been a guy who's been an outsider, an outcast here and there. I like to be well-liked. I'm a guy who like to be a lot of me. Allegedly. You're good dude. We don't know. We haven't fought you.

Like the ones that haven't fought you, like the people like us, right? It's like, you're good. So you want me to tell you what Justin Gates you told me why I like you? Let me tell you. That's his words. Because I always, I've always liked you. And he goes, let me tell you why you like Chandler. Because I was like, what's up with you?

you guys saying that about him in the way that he fights. He goes, how about this? He goes, I'll tell you why you like him. He goes, because you're like Michael Chandler, being that you're a competitor and such a competitor that you'll be willing to do anything to win. That's what Justin Gatesy told me. So I don't know that that's a compliment or an insult. Well, I also, but that's what he said.

I guess, I mean, well, the crazy thing is like what happened in that fight? The only thing that happened in that fight was when I threw a level. left hook right hand and then there was a eye poke and then the referee didn't stop you know yeah he said all these like you're like those things happen and actually here's here's the worst part about it and I actually screen recorded on my phone but I'm not I'm not here to defend myself yeah and the Charles Olivera fight I hit him with the hard right hand I post my hand on his face there's a side on this where these two fingers are exposed and there's a side of an angle on this where these three and then all of a sudden he does this and now everybody's like oh he poked him in

But it's just like, well, just because he's rubbing his eye doesn't mean I poked him in the eye. It's like, there's video evidence of it. So there's stuff like that. But you're also just like, dude, there's a referee in there. Yeah. I've never had a point taken away. I'm like, I don't know. I just honestly don't know what's happening.

I was like, well, what is going on? I don't know. Because I said, well, maybe because they fought each other and these guys don't want to like each other. Also, I mean. He said you tried to knock him out after the referee was like. Yes, I did. Of course I did because the referee didn't stop us. If that's what he's mad at me about, why are you mad at me, dude?

Like the referee, Mike Beltran of all people, who's got six foot long arms was nine feet away and said, and it looks like he does this. But I'm over there and he's nine feet away. And I'm like, dude, unless a referee is in the middle. You're taught. He's a wrestler, first of all. That's why I said it's a sign of weakness. I'm like, dude, you're a wrestler, dude. You're supposed to know you wrestle until the whistle class, right?

You fight until the ref stops you, and he didn't stop. So you're just like, if that's cheating, I don't know what you want me to do. Is it the cheating or is it the ref or not doing his job? Yeah. So I don't know, man. We're fighting, dude. This is combat sports. What are we even talking about here?

Exactly. Yeah, so I was just kind of wondering because it feels like as you're preparing for Patty Pimbled. Patty Pimlet's not saying these things. It's all the guys from your past. Yeah, and I appreciate that. You know? And also, I mean, when you beat a guy, you want to see him. do not as good as you after that.

Yeah. Well, hey, I beat him, so therefore I should be here and I should be here. And I think there's certain aspects of this sport that guys like Daniel Cormier probably, you know, had where they're like, I just keep on getting promoted. And I just keep on getting these big fights and great things keep happening and good things happen to good people and all these other things. But then there's other people who are like, yeah, but I beat him. So kind of kind of mad about this. Why am I, you know. Mike, you have had one of the funnest runs in the UFC.

It hasn't come with the success that you would hope it had been. Is this one of those situations where it's a must win for Michael Chan. Like, do you put that pressure on you like, hey, I feel, this is me from the outside, and you can tell me if you disagree. I feel like you've entered into that realm of existence where, because it's always fun, the result always doesn't matter as much as the feeling that the fans leave. the fight with. So when Nate Diaz lost to Leon Edwards,

he hit him with the one, two, and he pointed at him, it's like, well, Nate Diaz had that moment. But as a competitor, I know you the competitor. I don't know if you want to live in that area. Do you feel like this one, no? It's like a must win. Yeah, I don't want to live in that area,

and I've gone out there to try to win every single fight. Yeah. And, yeah, I mean, I think it is. And my back's been up against the wall a couple times. So UFC debut, knocked out Dan Hooker. Then I'm on this big run, and it's a UFC title fight, and there's like there's really not a lot to lose, and I lose that one.

But then I come back and I backs up against the wall against Tony Ferguson. Yep. Highlight. K-O of the year, Sports Center number one on SportsCenter's top 10. Like these kinds of things happen. So something wells up inside me when my back is up against the wall, and I think this is one of those fights. So that's why you've got it by the pay-per-view,

you've got to show up. And I will have people on the edge of their seats, if not standing up, because that's what I always do every single time I step into the octagon. I saw that picture of you looking jacked and had a picture of Patty looking fat and said, explain to this person that this guy's favorite

to be this guy and you're like, this is exactly where I want to be, right? Is it not, like, fighters feel something when they are doubted. And you have to feel that right now, being that, this is the next generation. And that's the danger in those fights, right? because can't really lose to the next generation,

or that's almost a sign of, okay, well, maybe it's like coming to the end, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I feel it, and it's, but it's fine. I mean, I've, I look at the sport differently in the sense or like I keep saying, it's like it's not Patty Pimble, it's a head, it's a torso, two arms and two legs, and I just, there's a soul in front of me,

and I see targets in front of me, and I get after it. So, I mean, yeah, I agree. Obviously, there's implications, Negative implications, but there's also some very good positive implications, right? This is a big fight, people's main event, five rounds, co-main event in Miami, Florida. This is big, man. It's exciting, and I'm excited to compete. I'm excited to go out and just do what I do.

Continue to get to do what I do. You know, guys, Michael Chandler and I are friends. We've always been friends. It's not always perfect. One time we got into an argument, we started with voice memos, did text messages, then phone calls. It was like very intense between Mike and I, so we do get after each other. at times, but then most times we come back around to where we are right now.

So Michael Chandler fights at UFC 314 this weekend against Patty Pimlet, looking to get back on the winning track and looking to really put a halt to all the momentum that Patty Pimlet has. Guys, make sure you go to his YouTube channel, like and subscribe, set those reminders. It's fantastic. Also, make sure you tap into everything that he's doing. UFC 314 goes down this weekend. Kasea sent an ESPN plus pay-per-view.

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